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Doug Marrone Show: January 2 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: He's celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football players tagging
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Speaker 1: they know what just happened. They understand that this team
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Speaker 1: just big the playoffs to the first time in ten years.
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Speaker 1: This is the Doug Moron Show. The Doug Moron Show,
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Speaker 1: Former Jaguar Jeff Loghman and J. P. Shadrick discussed the
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Speaker 1: latest Jaguars news with the head coach. The Doug Moron
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Speaker 1: Show starts right now. Welcome to The Doug Marone Show,
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Speaker 1: presented by the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles.
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Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Jeff Lockman, Tony Basselli. No head coach,
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Speaker 1: but the biggest news is this is still the Doug
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Speaker 1: Moron Show. Doug Marone is still the head coach. Dave
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Speaker 1: Caldwell is still the general manager. That's the biggest news
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Speaker 1: from earlier in the week, and we've heard throughout the
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Speaker 1: weeks their Tuesday press conference from from both them. We'll
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Speaker 1: hear from both again coming up. But um Jaguar's owner
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Speaker 1: Shot coom May the announcement on Tuesday that you wanted
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Speaker 1: to stick with this crew. There are high expectations moving
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Speaker 1: ahead and there are promises of more collaboration between the
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Speaker 1: scouting and the coaching sides here in the football side
1:21
Speaker 1: of the building, and we'll see what that means moving ahead.
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Speaker 1: The coaches are out until the thirteen and they'll come
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Speaker 1: back and start stelf evaluating that staff. I think the
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Speaker 1: scouts are out as well, and once they come back
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Speaker 1: in the thirteenth, here we go. Obviously it's bowl season.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure where else would they be there. I mean,
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be I would imagine scouts will be right here.
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Speaker 1: And I'm sure at the bowl game here in Jacksonville tonight,
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Speaker 1: Tennessee in Indiana and the Gator Bowl Tex Layer Gator Bowl.
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Speaker 1: I gotta say the the Tennessee turnout, it's like ten
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Speaker 1: to one. A lot of orange out there coming into
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Speaker 1: did you know what I'm saying I did? It was right, Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I didn't see a lot of red, A lot of
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Speaker 1: ones being kind Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't know
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Speaker 1: if I could get any work more brutal than that.
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Speaker 1: Travels well now, especially when they feel like they're playing better.
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Speaker 1: I guarantee you that Tennessee, the folks that we're selling
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Speaker 1: tickets and uh, they were probably very excited to see
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Speaker 1: that Tennessee was the team from the SEC because they've
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Speaker 1: not been known to travel. Now, how how many do
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Speaker 1: they see at their stadium in Tennessee? It's crazy. And
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Speaker 1: when they're good, they fill it up. That's impressive. And
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Speaker 1: you can here's the other thing lost in Georgia State.
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Speaker 1: That's how impressive. Did you can't miss somebody that's a volunteer.
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Speaker 1: The color, it's not like it's a subtle color. JP
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Speaker 1: can't stand him. Alabama hates Tennessee. It's a known fact.
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Speaker 1: Big rivalry. BIG's the if you ask the old timers,
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Speaker 1: it is the biggest rock. Yes, why bigger than Tennessee.
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Speaker 1: Used to wear you all out? Not really, but it's
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Speaker 1: just a border rivalry, bigger than Auburn. There was a
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Speaker 1: forty years stretch where Alabama Auburn didn't play each other,
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Speaker 1: really old days. Yeah really, so what is it? What
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Speaker 1: is it of those old timers are now dead and
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Speaker 1: gone were bringing up out. There's no JP is on
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Speaker 1: Alabama graduate, so there's no iron ball. This is back
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Speaker 1: in the fifth you know, forties, fifties. What's the overall
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Speaker 1: record between Alabama and Tennessee. It's Alabama all day. Big.
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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you. Look, I'll tell you. You mean,
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Speaker 1: it's like a recently big number. Probably it's it's a
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Speaker 1: big number, big advantage for Alabama. But historic Alabama leads
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Speaker 1: fifty seven thirty seven and eight. That's pretty good, thank you,
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Speaker 1: is pretty good. Big number, not that big. How many
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Speaker 1: in a row has Alabama one? A lot? I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's so that's my point. Everyone. We won everyone since
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Speaker 1: two thousand seven, Yes, and saving came in twelve years,
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Speaker 1: every single thing. So that's my point. Before Savan got there,
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Speaker 1: it was a close ribbalry, but there was a run.
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Speaker 1: Tennessee had a run from Peyton Manning never lost to Alabama,
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Speaker 1: and then from then on they lost one time. In
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Speaker 1: that stretch from nine until six, Tennessee won every game
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Speaker 1: except one. What a beautiful day for the for the
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Speaker 1: ball game. Here, beautiful day and a great crowd. And
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Speaker 1: it's good for the city of Jacksonville to have a
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Speaker 1: great crowd for the tax layer game. How big? How
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Speaker 1: big the crowd do? We don't know. I don't know,
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Speaker 1: but I think it's the biggest they've had in a
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Speaker 1: few years, you know, And that's because you go around
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Speaker 1: uh college football, a lot of the bulls are no
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Speaker 1: one's there. I was at the Sun Bowl passed. It
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Speaker 1: was packed state Arizona. I was shocked from who, well
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Speaker 1: it was more Arizona State, but there was a good
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Speaker 1: Florida State contingent too there. It was like locals. It
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Speaker 1: was a really good crowd because it's not a crazy
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Speaker 1: drive from stadium Phoenix, very old and not very big.
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Speaker 1: I mean so when I say packed, it's carved into
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Speaker 1: the side of the mountain. It's a cool place. Setting
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Speaker 1: is awesome, right, really cool. Look out over you can
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Speaker 1: see Mexico a couple of walks away, literally a couple
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Speaker 1: of right, like the wall one what says like we
5:23
Speaker 1: need to build the wall, Like, well, they already got ahead.
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Speaker 1: There's I was right there the first That's funny. I
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Speaker 1: covered a few Sun Bowls for for CBS, working as
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Speaker 1: a production assistant, right, so we went to the Sun
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Speaker 1: Bowl every year. It was the CBS Bowl Game. So
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Speaker 1: the first time and you played there, right, So the
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Speaker 1: first time I go, I'm expecting all the Rio Grand River.
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be this majestic, wide flowing river through El Paso.
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Speaker 1: And I get there, that's a literal concrete ditch with
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Speaker 1: fences on both sides and security cameras everywhere. I was
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Speaker 1: so disappointed, But that's what it is. Back when I
5:56
Speaker 1: was playing that ball game you actually went to were
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Speaker 1: as an event over in Wars. Not any more. They
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Speaker 1: don't let you cross the border, stay away from the fence.
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Speaker 1: Bad things happened on the other side. Yeah, back then,
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Speaker 1: it was great. We went through this like Mexican feast.
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Speaker 1: It was really cool. You used to have like a
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Speaker 1: bull fight fight. Yeah, but the whole deal. It was
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Speaker 1: very cool. No more, no more that times have changed.
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Speaker 1: So uh, that's certainly for the Jaguars. That's the that's
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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen moving ahead. Dave calledwell, Doug Morone and
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Speaker 1: a collaborative effort was the rallying cry on Tuesday, which
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Speaker 1: surprises me. I thought, there, that's how you would have thought.
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Speaker 1: That's how it always was done. Collaborative process that you know.
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Speaker 1: Doug laid out that now the scouts and the coaches
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Speaker 1: are gonna work together and we're gonna do it pick
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Speaker 1: players together and be on the same page, which tells
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Speaker 1: me that they weren't doing that, and they weren't on
6:46
Speaker 1: the same page, which is surprising to me because you
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Speaker 1: would think that's just the way you do it, and
6:51
Speaker 1: that's how most teams do it. We had to go
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Speaker 1: to uh the as he knew Some in the Great
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Speaker 1: as He Knew Some. He always said this because I
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Speaker 1: always anything that Ozzy Knewsom has ever said or that
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Speaker 1: has been written about him, I've always kind of read
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Speaker 1: it because he's been a he's been literally an amazing
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Speaker 1: personnel guy. He's a Hall of Fame player, a Hall
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Speaker 1: of Fame executive, He's done everything. And he always said
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Speaker 1: that you never draft a player that your coach doesn't
7:18
Speaker 1: want to coach, and so in order to draft a
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Speaker 1: player that your coach does want to coach, you probably
7:25
Speaker 1: need to have a conversation with your coaching staff prior
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Speaker 1: to that, and to kind of get the impression that
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Speaker 1: that that communication wasn't happening. I think further, I guess
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Speaker 1: you could say justifies the article that was written not
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Speaker 1: long after. Coughlin had a press conference a while back
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Speaker 1: and said that the the relationship between scouting and coaching
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Speaker 1: was toxic. And maybe that was too strong of a word,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but clearly something was amiss in the
7:55
Speaker 1: previous years. If that, if that relationship wasn't happening, because
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Speaker 1: it needs to happen going forward, because I mean, look,
8:02
Speaker 1: if I'm an offensive line coach and I want to
8:04
Speaker 1: run a certain scheme and I want to run, have
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Speaker 1: a left tackle that can pull, then I need to
8:10
Speaker 1: have a left tackle that can pull. I don't need
8:12
Speaker 1: a left tackle who's a maller. Now if my right
8:14
Speaker 1: tackle or my right guard I want them to be mawlers,
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Speaker 1: then I need to tell the department that's gonna acquire
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Speaker 1: those guys. Hey, look, maulers on the right side, athletic
8:24
Speaker 1: pullers on the left side. And then obviously every other
8:28
Speaker 1: position that you have, you have kind of landmarks, whether
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Speaker 1: it be height, weight, speed requirements. For example, the Jaguars
8:37
Speaker 1: defense cannot function with linebackers that have speed that's in
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Speaker 1: the four eight range. Can some defenses can have a
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Speaker 1: linebacker that runs a four eight, but the requirement of
8:49
Speaker 1: the Jaguars defense requires that you have a linebacker that
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Speaker 1: can run like a like the wind to be able
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Speaker 1: to cover some wide receivers that acrossing the field. And
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Speaker 1: a lot of people probably remember Miles Jack or Paupa's
8:59
Speaker 1: Lesnie Chase, the wide receiver on a deep over route
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Speaker 1: across the field schematically, the Jaguars linebackers have to run.
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Speaker 1: So I mean that's all part of the communication process,
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Speaker 1: and it and it goes to all positions that that
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Speaker 1: communication has to happen about. And and yes, I'm very
9:14
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9:19
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Speaker 1: Show continues right now. Yeah, I think I can take
11:48
Speaker 1: that one. I mean, obviously, being uh you know a
11:52
Speaker 1: former player that was part of the union that uh
11:56
Speaker 1: went on strike for the union and the relationship you
12:01
Speaker 1: know that I have with the NFL p A, I
12:03
Speaker 1: would I would think that you know myself. You know,
12:07
Speaker 1: you look at people like you know, keenan, Ron Middleton,
12:11
Speaker 1: Marcus Pollitt. There there are a lot of people, Tom Lynskey,
12:14
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people in this organization that
12:17
Speaker 1: have been you know, on the side of the players. Um,
12:20
Speaker 1: you know, at the proper time, I'm going to talk
12:23
Speaker 1: to them about you know, where are we right now
12:27
Speaker 1: with them? You know, you know, how do they how
12:29
Speaker 1: do they feel about us right now? And I believe,
12:31
Speaker 1: and I can't speak for them that you know, it's
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Speaker 1: a positive light. Head coach Doug Marone on the podium
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Speaker 1: Tuesday after the announcement that he and Dave Coldwell are back,
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Doug Marone Show, j P. Shadrick,
12:44
Speaker 1: Jeff Logman and Tony Boselli. And that was obviously a
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Speaker 1: big piece of the puzzle the last few weeks, the
12:51
Speaker 1: letter that came down to all NFL players from the
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Speaker 1: union discussing the Jacksonville Jaguars, and not long after that,
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Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin was dismissed and relieved of his duties here.
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Speaker 1: It was a question on Tuesday to the leadership for
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Speaker 1: the football side of how do they patch that relationship
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Speaker 1: with the players Association. That was Doug Moron's response. He's
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Speaker 1: been a player, he was on strike as a player,
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Speaker 1: as a member of the union, and there are a
13:15
Speaker 1: few guys in the building that have been a part
13:17
Speaker 1: of that union too, And we'll see over the next
13:19
Speaker 1: few weeks if he can. If he said he's gonna
13:21
Speaker 1: reach out with you don't think it's the When when
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Speaker 1: Shot Khan terminated Tom Coughlin, that was a direct answer
13:31
Speaker 1: to the nfl P a statement that they released, and
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Speaker 1: I think that it's not gonna be Hey, the Player
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Speaker 1: Association is not putting out another statement, Oh, it's over.
13:41
Speaker 1: The Jaguars are good now, No, they don't. They don't
13:43
Speaker 1: need to do that, and uh and uh. And I
13:46
Speaker 1: expect that that Doug can reach out to Damour Smith
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Speaker 1: if he wants to, and h it would probably be
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Speaker 1: just good business to do so and just communicate with him,
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Speaker 1: say hey, look like Duck said, hey, where are we at?
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Speaker 1: And you know, we're good and anything we can do.
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Speaker 1: And but then beyond that, I mean, it's I think
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Speaker 1: it's over, but I think, you know, just a little
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Speaker 1: bit of communication to kind of put a bow tie
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Speaker 1: on it to end it would be good. But but
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Speaker 1: Doug Brown is by reaching out to d Smith, is
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Speaker 1: not going to get another press release by the union
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Speaker 1: saying hey, just to let everybody know it is now
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Speaker 1: okay once again for free agents to sign with Jacksonville.
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Speaker 1: Which goes to the point that Jeff I don't think
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Speaker 1: it was proper for the union ever to make that
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Speaker 1: release if they wanted to make the release, um just
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Speaker 1: to state that the grievance was won by the player
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Speaker 1: or whatever. Fine, but that last line, in my opinion,
14:41
Speaker 1: was too far. Now, if they want to do a
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Speaker 1: private communication to their members, that's fine. I mean, that's
14:47
Speaker 1: what unions do. If you want to have a conversation
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Speaker 1: with your members, say hey, guys, this is what we're
14:50
Speaker 1: concerned about. You need to be aware of the situation,
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Speaker 1: that's fine. But to making a public uh press release
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Speaker 1: where you're telling or you're making recommendations where a player
15:05
Speaker 1: should go, I don't think that's made it get addressed. Well,
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Speaker 1: that's fine, but you do you understand what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: I totally understand what you're saying. Privately, that's the union's job.
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Speaker 1: You got to take care of your membership, and they
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Speaker 1: have every right to do that and what they should do.
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Speaker 1: Then if they felt that strong about it, once the
15:24
Speaker 1: situation was handled by shot with Tom and Doug's gonna
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Speaker 1: go reach out whatever he says, they should. If you're
15:30
Speaker 1: gonna make that public statement, they should reach out to
15:32
Speaker 1: the membership and say, hey, listen, we've dr Jacksonville. They
15:34
Speaker 1: made changes. Is just I mean, if they felt that
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Speaker 1: strongly to go say something, then they should follow up
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Speaker 1: with a private communication to their members. Saying this is
15:43
Speaker 1: fine now. I mean, I don't think you just get
15:47
Speaker 1: get to do it one way or not the other.
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Speaker 1: I hear you, I hear you. But I don't think
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be I don't think it's gonna happen. Yeah,
15:54
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. No, I agree with you there,
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna happen. But I also too, I mean,
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Speaker 1: would if you if you were to dig deeper into
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Speaker 1: the story. I have a feeling that this is kind
16:05
Speaker 1: of a long process that's been going on for quite
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Speaker 1: some time between Coughlin and the Union, sometimes pretty much
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Speaker 1: five years. I think there's been many years of frustration,
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Speaker 1: probably on both sides that have that has that led
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Speaker 1: to the acrimony of that relationship. Yeah, let's come back.
16:31
Speaker 1: We've got some position situations to discuss, including quarterback. There's
16:37
Speaker 1: a lot more than that. We'll start with that. It's
16:40
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16:45
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Speaker 1: right now. I think we have you know, two that
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Speaker 1: this week, The Doug Moron Show continues, j P. Shadrick,
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Speaker 1: Jeff Logerman, Tony Boselli back in them all with thee
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Speaker 1: it's the time of year. I'm gonna stay caffeinated. The
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Speaker 1: quarter position. That the topic there from head coach Doug Maron.
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Speaker 1: The leadership asked about it during the Tuesday press conference
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Speaker 1: with the future holds at that position. Gardner Minshew, of
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Speaker 1: course Nick Foles is here and that's gonna be a
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Speaker 1: big talking point. Tony CLI's back with us now. UM,
20:17
Speaker 1: thank you very much for the coffee. I appreciate that.
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Speaker 1: But um, in an earlier program tonight and certainly throughout that,
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Speaker 1: Dave Coldwell said that priority number one is unique and
20:29
Speaker 1: got way. But you can certainly argue, and you have
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Speaker 1: logs that priority number one is figuring out the quarterback position,
20:36
Speaker 1: whatever that is. Well, I mean I think that what
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Speaker 1: that is it should be is that you know, you've
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Speaker 1: got two guys that you feel good about, and that
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Speaker 1: they can start if need be, but you, Neil still
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Speaker 1: need to continue to search for a franchise guy. And
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Speaker 1: I think you assume that neither one of these guys
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Speaker 1: is a franchise guy. But right now and until something
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Speaker 1: world of get proven. Otherwise would you be ocked if
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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew is not the starting quarterback opening day this week?
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Speaker 1: Yess um? Which is ironic because last year, you know,
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Speaker 1: thirteen months ago, whatever, nine months ago, whatever it was,
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Speaker 1: ten months ago, eleven whatever, whenever we signed Nick Foles,
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Speaker 1: everyone was so excited, had a great camp. Was there
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Speaker 1: any question watching him in camp? Who was the better quarterback?
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Speaker 1: Him and Minshew? Not even close? Comes out Week one eleven,
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Speaker 1: plays big third down on like play seven, strike for
21:34
Speaker 1: a touchdown, as he's getting hammered, Here we go, here
21:38
Speaker 1: we go, he gets hurt. All we talked about is
21:41
Speaker 1: cannot wait for him to get back mitsh You just
21:43
Speaker 1: hold onto the position, um. And then because of a
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Speaker 1: body of work of two and a half quarters, we
21:52
Speaker 1: have now decided that he is no longer the answer,
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Speaker 1: and that Gardner Minshew is, which is shocking. Ten and
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Speaker 1: a half quarters you mean right, you're talking about Nick
22:01
Speaker 1: foles performance? Uh to a half games, starry a games,
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Speaker 1: two and a half games? Shocking to me? Would you
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Speaker 1: would you expect it to be any different that we
22:15
Speaker 1: jumped this far to like her. It's amazing. Right, let
22:19
Speaker 1: me ask you this with that, what do you do?
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Speaker 1: What do you do next year? This all season? What
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Speaker 1: do you do ter back position? Do do you do?
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Speaker 1: You try to trade Nick Foles? Him as a back up.
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Speaker 1: He's on the roster because you're paying them, he's guaranteed money.
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Speaker 1: Is there sixteen or seventeen million dollars? Obviously we had
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Speaker 1: this conversation earlier. You're you're going to continue to look
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Speaker 1: for a franchise quarterback. Yeah, yeah, I'm still I'm still
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Speaker 1: doing my homework and all the quarterbacks in college and
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Speaker 1: everything else. Yeah. I have not stopped that process, but
22:50
Speaker 1: I mean it's just amazing. And two and a half
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Speaker 1: games we've like said, Nick Foles can't play. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's sometimes happens, right, I mean, JP was was able
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Speaker 1: to be in the locker room for for Nick Foles
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Speaker 1: last time that he spoke. What did you get the
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Speaker 1: sense from him about where he's at and where he
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Speaker 1: wants to be. He wants to be a starting quarterback.
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Speaker 1: He feels like he's got quarterbacks still left to play.
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Speaker 1: To give the impressions that it's gonna be here or
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Speaker 1: that I don't care, it's gonna be somewhere. It was
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Speaker 1: the latter that wherever that is. He wasn't sure what
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Speaker 1: the future. You know, I don't know what the future holds,
23:30
Speaker 1: what the what the organization is going to do, but
23:32
Speaker 1: it certainly if he's here, his mindset is that he
23:35
Speaker 1: wants to be the starting quarterback. That's at least the
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Speaker 1: feeling I got from it. In the nicest way possible,
23:41
Speaker 1: because Nick Foles is one of the nicest humans on
23:43
Speaker 1: the planet. Um, so as aggressively as as aggressively as
23:48
Speaker 1: you would expect him to say something. How did he
23:50
Speaker 1: say that this year was for him in relation to
23:53
Speaker 1: the year that he had in St. Louis that almost
23:55
Speaker 1: drove him to retire. He said, it was ten times
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Speaker 1: worse this year then was in St. Louis. It's amazing.
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Speaker 1: I mean it is ten times worse. Mhmm, it is. Um.
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Speaker 1: They also said he's not planning on retiring, so you
24:11
Speaker 1: can go ahead and well the interesting and does all that,
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Speaker 1: Like the interesting thing is is and now you guess. Now,
24:19
Speaker 1: we don't know how the process was done, because Dave
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Speaker 1: and Dug told us they didn't really work together in
24:25
Speaker 1: a collaborative process they're now going to But whoever made
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Speaker 1: the decision, however, that decision was made that Nick Foles
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Speaker 1: could be the franchise quarterback and by the way, we're
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Speaker 1: gonna bet fifty million dollars on it of guaranteed money.
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Speaker 1: Whoever made that is now like saying, well, I was
24:43
Speaker 1: just joking. I didn't really think fifty billion. I mean,
24:45
Speaker 1: now you can't what it was. I mean, it's but Jeff,
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Speaker 1: that is like, like you don't see that, Like at
24:51
Speaker 1: the very least you would say, hey, listen, yes, we're
24:54
Speaker 1: happy with Gardner, but we still think I mean, we
24:56
Speaker 1: paid Nick Foles for a reason. We're gonna give him
24:57
Speaker 1: a chance to compete for the job. I mean, if
24:59
Speaker 1: you're or in fifty million and guaranteed, and I mean
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Speaker 1: that's you, you feel pretty good about your sixth round pick.
25:06
Speaker 1: Is there any way at all considering the dead cap
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Speaker 1: is nearly thirty four million dollars that you know you
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Speaker 1: can't you literally can't eat millions that would take up
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Speaker 1: that would take up fifth almost. Uh, let me take
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Speaker 1: up just over about sevent of your cap with that
25:23
Speaker 1: one player. But is there also anyway that you let
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Speaker 1: it two million of cap hits sit on the bench?
25:31
Speaker 1: You have huge your choice? What choice do you have?
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Speaker 1: What's what gives you the best chance to win? That?
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Speaker 1: I mean winning doesn't money doesnet come into play? And
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Speaker 1: the best chance of winning is having hit him on
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Speaker 1: the roster and freeing up that other twelve million dollars
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Speaker 1: is gonna sign their player or use it for other players?
25:47
Speaker 1: I mean, we guys, we talked about it earlier, the
25:50
Speaker 1: whole Unike and Gockway situation, right, So I mean that
25:54
Speaker 1: that makes you I don't want to say it makes
25:58
Speaker 1: it makes it prohibitive to sign a Gockway because it doesn't.
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Speaker 1: But it makes you make sure that you're you're very
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Speaker 1: aware of the dollars within gock Way because you have
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Speaker 1: a lot of money committed to a quarterback that may
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Speaker 1: not play for you next year, that may be a backup. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So that's a that's a very interesting, uh, very interesting
26:20
Speaker 1: situation that stay tuned because I mean, holy cow, what
26:26
Speaker 1: were to happen if you have fifty million guaranteed and
26:32
Speaker 1: what was the thirty four million potential and dead money
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Speaker 1: for Nick Foles, and then you have Gardner Minshew and
26:38
Speaker 1: then you you draft a quarterback. Uh wow. So I
26:47
Speaker 1: mean that's again a lot of resources committed to the
26:49
Speaker 1: quarterback position. But as I said before, you don't stop,
26:53
Speaker 1: you don't rest in your search for a franchise quarterback
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Speaker 1: until you found one. So you've got to be able
26:59
Speaker 1: to look step that. If that happens, so be it.
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Speaker 1: If that's what it takes to find a franchise guy.
27:06
Speaker 1: Could everybody's kind of not everybody, but I've heard others
27:10
Speaker 1: mentioned that Osweiler deal that the Texans made with the Browns,
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Speaker 1: trading draft picks and the contract to take some of
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Speaker 1: the cap. But here's the key with the key with
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Speaker 1: that JP they traded Oswilder and then and then his
27:23
Speaker 1: money and then got picks. Okay, So for you to
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Speaker 1: get rid of Nick Foles, you're gonna have to give
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Speaker 1: up doing that. That is the thirty four billion or
27:37
Speaker 1: the dead cap is the what's the difference. You need players,
27:40
Speaker 1: you need young you're just not giving it. You're not
27:42
Speaker 1: giving up. But it goes back to the to the
27:44
Speaker 1: rams when I was talking about the Rams on an
27:47
Speaker 1: earlier show about how your draft capital is. You're also
27:52
Speaker 1: it's the building box blocks of the future, but it's
27:55
Speaker 1: also your lower cost labor. So when you have to
27:59
Speaker 1: pay eyes liking the gock Way, then you can counteract
28:02
Speaker 1: them with draft picks to have the other end of
28:05
Speaker 1: the roster, which is the lower cost guys. I mean,
28:07
Speaker 1: that's that's your cheapest guys. For the most part. You
28:10
Speaker 1: gotta hit hit hit on those dude, you got hit him,
28:13
Speaker 1: got hit on them, and they need to be a
28:15
Speaker 1: part of your football team. From a money standpoint, you
28:17
Speaker 1: got to develop with those guys. You got to teach
28:19
Speaker 1: them and grow them and make them better. So interesting
28:23
Speaker 1: deal now. March of seventeen, Oswald they traded to the
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Speaker 1: Browns with the Texans seventeen sixth round pick and eighteen
28:30
Speaker 1: second round pick and exchange for a fourth round compensatory
28:34
Speaker 1: pick and a bunch of money going up to Cleveland.
28:37
Speaker 1: And then in September it was released by the Cleveland
28:41
Speaker 1: Browns were buying draft picks. That's essentially what we're gathering.
28:45
Speaker 1: That was over the years. They know they were buying
28:47
Speaker 1: draft picks. That was in the Sashy Brown who was
28:53
Speaker 1: the former General Council of the Jacksonville Jaguars that somehow
28:56
Speaker 1: gained control of the Cleveland Browns organization. How that happened
29:03
Speaker 1: the Browns, I mean they well, they just fired the
29:06
Speaker 1: the guy replaced them after two years. And that's Dorsey.
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29:20
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Speaker 1: That Doug Moron Show continues right now. I think you
31:38
Speaker 1: guys all known in this room how um Bolk Dog
31:41
Speaker 1: and I fail by Ganek and through our conversations over
31:44
Speaker 1: the years, and uh, he's a tremendous player. He's even
31:49
Speaker 1: a better person. How he handles his business. That share
31:52
Speaker 1: was tremendous, but that I would say that's priority number
31:54
Speaker 1: one to make sure that he comes back to Jacksonville.
31:57
Speaker 1: And he's a Jacksonall Jaguar, So uh, hopefully we can
32:02
Speaker 1: get that done. Um. You know, were each here for
32:06
Speaker 1: a long period of time. Dave col Bell, general Manager.
32:09
Speaker 1: Earlier this week, The Doug Moron Show continues. J P. Shadwick,
32:12
Speaker 1: Jeff Lockman, Tony Basell. You no head coach this week.
32:15
Speaker 1: They're on vacation. They'll be back on the coaching staff
32:19
Speaker 1: as a whole, So shouldn't it be the Missalia Logman show.
32:24
Speaker 1: That's the JP shatter. No no, no, no, no, it is.
32:27
Speaker 1: Doug said it many times. I thought it was the
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Speaker 1: This is the Doug Moron Show and that is the
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Speaker 1: biggest news of the week. Doug Maron, the head coach
32:40
Speaker 1: with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Dave called Well the general manager
32:43
Speaker 1: unique and got way a huge topic of course moving
32:46
Speaker 1: into the off season. You heard Caldwell there. It's priority
32:48
Speaker 1: number one for the organization and it's gonna get interesting.
32:53
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna get ugly before it gets clearer.
32:56
Speaker 1: That's kind of the field. Well, look didn't have to
33:01
Speaker 1: have to be well. This is why I mean social
33:03
Speaker 1: media has always adds a wrinkle to it because guys
33:06
Speaker 1: have a voice that we never had. There was no
33:08
Speaker 1: social media. The only thing you had was sports, stock
33:11
Speaker 1: radio and print media. Um. But like, Unique has handled
33:16
Speaker 1: himself as a pro during this whole thing, and so
33:19
Speaker 1: I don't like I think he'll be distant. I don't
33:21
Speaker 1: think he'll be here until he gets the deal. I
33:23
Speaker 1: think those are all normal business things. But I think
33:25
Speaker 1: he'll handle like a business decision, and like he's done
33:29
Speaker 1: everything right to this point, and so I don't know
33:31
Speaker 1: why he wouldn't continue to do that. I thought he
33:33
Speaker 1: handled it really well after the game. I had an
33:37
Speaker 1: interview with him briefly after the game and then also
33:40
Speaker 1: some of the interviews that he had, and and he
33:43
Speaker 1: was he kept reemphasizing the same things, saying the same
33:48
Speaker 1: type of things, and it was very respectful and uh,
33:52
Speaker 1: and I've got a lot of respect for very Junie.
33:54
Speaker 1: I think he's a I think he's a good person.
33:57
Speaker 1: I think he's a good football player, really good football
34:00
Speaker 1: and he needs good for this organization. And and I
34:04
Speaker 1: look forward to him suiting back up in the teal
34:08
Speaker 1: in the future and hopefully, uh, he continues to be
34:11
Speaker 1: a great player for this team and he can got
34:13
Speaker 1: way a little before about eleven thirty years. So today
34:18
Speaker 1: tweeted the following, Duvall, thank you for all the love
34:21
Speaker 1: and support. No matter where I play in the future,
34:23
Speaker 1: you are all in my heart forever, Dash ninety one.
34:28
Speaker 1: That's good. I mean, look, who knows, you know? And
34:32
Speaker 1: I know that it was pretty cool and fitting that
34:35
Speaker 1: the last cause fumble of this season that he caused
34:39
Speaker 1: was a great effort play that he threw his body
34:42
Speaker 1: around and that the mayor of Saxonville recovered the fumble
34:46
Speaker 1: and walked into the end zone for eight yards and
34:47
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Pretty good. I mean, you know, it's just fitting,
34:50
Speaker 1: pretty good stuff, just fitting. So I was I was
34:53
Speaker 1: happy for him, and and he had a good year
34:56
Speaker 1: and uh not a great year. He started out the
34:58
Speaker 1: year a little bit injured with hamstring, as we talked
35:01
Speaker 1: about before, and it slowed him down a little bit.
35:04
Speaker 1: But I got a lot of respect for him because
35:06
Speaker 1: a lot of players that were that would would be
35:08
Speaker 1: in that situation, knowing that they're in a contract you
35:12
Speaker 1: might choose to shut it down and to protect their
35:17
Speaker 1: resource for the future, which the resource for a player
35:20
Speaker 1: is their body. And he played through it, and uh man,
35:25
Speaker 1: I mean you talk about that's the kind of player,
35:29
Speaker 1: and that's the type of player that you go when
35:33
Speaker 1: you're trying to make the decision will money change a guy.
35:38
Speaker 1: That's the type of guy that you know that money
35:40
Speaker 1: won't change him because he's just that committed to the
35:44
Speaker 1: game and being great. And we're taking a look at
35:48
Speaker 1: this play right here. He was on the ground and
35:50
Speaker 1: It was interesting because I asked him about that place
35:52
Speaker 1: specifically after the game and he said, you know, coach
35:55
Speaker 1: Todd Walsh always talked about treat the ground like a
35:58
Speaker 1: hot stove, which means get off the ground and get
36:03
Speaker 1: up and get moving. And uh. And it's just cool
36:06
Speaker 1: because there's I think the players that are that I've
36:10
Speaker 1: been around that have been great players, and Tony is
36:14
Speaker 1: one of them. They take coaching because that's what part
36:18
Speaker 1: that's part of what makes them great. They they're in
36:20
Speaker 1: a never ending learning situation. And you can tell it
36:24
Speaker 1: was the unique that by him, He's immediately recalls what
36:28
Speaker 1: the coaches telling him. Treat the ground like a hot stove,
36:30
Speaker 1: get up. But I mean, I think that's pretty cool
36:34
Speaker 1: and uh. And that's the type of player that you
36:36
Speaker 1: definitely want to have on your team and you want
36:37
Speaker 1: to pay you you want him on your team just
36:40
Speaker 1: to the locker room alone. And obviously production matters more
36:43
Speaker 1: than anything, and his sack numbers are down this year
36:45
Speaker 1: a little bit. I think he would have got the
36:47
Speaker 1: double digits if he's not hurt early in the year. Um,
36:50
Speaker 1: And I'd like to get Jeff's opinion on this. I
36:52
Speaker 1: still don't think his position is best for where they're
36:55
Speaker 1: playing him right now as a three or four three
36:58
Speaker 1: defensive end UM, unless you can guarantee he's on space
37:02
Speaker 1: and you and he has he's away from the bubble,
37:04
Speaker 1: so he has the three technique near him all the time.
37:09
Speaker 1: And I say that because the run game, he is
37:11
Speaker 1: a six one and a half six pound supreme athlete,
37:16
Speaker 1: tough as nails, but playing and play out, he's just
37:20
Speaker 1: not gonna hold up against big offensive tackles down he
37:24
Speaker 1: doesn't get dirty a lot and and that's just not
37:27
Speaker 1: his style, and so he has to he's a space player.
37:31
Speaker 1: I think the perfect scheme would be a four three
37:34
Speaker 1: four where he's a stand up outside linebacker UM because
37:38
Speaker 1: he could dominate every play he's right outside backer. He's
37:42
Speaker 1: playing in space and and that's the perfect fit in
37:46
Speaker 1: my own wish, which Tony. We saw this football team
37:50
Speaker 1: play a three four this year for about five snaps
37:52
Speaker 1: in Kansas City, and they had about five mental layers
37:54
Speaker 1: were not covering guys any But I think, I think,
37:59
Speaker 1: I think are of the plans. And here's the other thing. Now,
38:02
Speaker 1: the other way to kind of accomplish a little bit
38:04
Speaker 1: of that with with you is to also to either
38:08
Speaker 1: play a three four because we're talking about base downs,
38:11
Speaker 1: so he like the sub which is downs. He's fine.
38:15
Speaker 1: He's fine. So if if you're playing a three four
38:18
Speaker 1: in your base downs, then he's right outside backer because
38:21
Speaker 1: he's a natural right side pass rusher. If you're in
38:25
Speaker 1: a four three, his natural position and in base personnel
38:29
Speaker 1: is as as a SAM linebacker. So and I think
38:33
Speaker 1: that his holdout this year probably affected the ability of
38:38
Speaker 1: the team to kind of incorporate maybe some of those roles.
38:41
Speaker 1: For for Yon. The only thing with the same linebacker
38:44
Speaker 1: and the four three Jeff, is he canna be able
38:45
Speaker 1: to cover when they go He can do it, but
38:48
Speaker 1: the team goes to uh twins, it puts the tight
38:52
Speaker 1: to a slot receiver that SAM linebacker has to walk
38:55
Speaker 1: out on the slot receiver in a coverage situation. Schrammatically,
38:59
Speaker 1: you can cover up some of those things. You can
39:02
Speaker 1: choose to play certain ways. My only thing, like the
39:04
Speaker 1: only negative thing I can say about Yon is and
39:07
Speaker 1: he did it better this year, But does he dominate
39:11
Speaker 1: the game every play, meaning on rundowns. Is he a
39:16
Speaker 1: top end asset as a run player? No? And right
39:21
Speaker 1: now you just can't say that because of his size
39:23
Speaker 1: that you now you can say that about every player.
39:26
Speaker 1: Like listen, when like when I was playing, I thought
39:28
Speaker 1: it was pretty damn good at did I guarantee you,
39:29
Speaker 1: scouts and everyone else were looking at he could do
39:32
Speaker 1: this better. And that's what Jeff's talking about. And that's
39:35
Speaker 1: my challenge you on I've talked about this even one
39:37
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42:48
Speaker 1: Defensive needs. There are plenty of them, but we're gonna
42:52
Speaker 1: pick the top three defensive needs for this JACKA going
42:58
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43:04
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43:07
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43:09
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43:11
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43:15
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43:17
Speaker 1: eight to tendants. Okay, um, ok, Darius is gone. I'm
43:24
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43:25
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43:28
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43:30
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43:33
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43:37
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43:40
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43:42
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43:45
Speaker 1: the numbers just don't add up. Um. So if I
43:49
Speaker 1: I look at the number one needs is defensive tackle,
43:51
Speaker 1: middle linebacker, corner, and I'd probably go defensive tackle, corner,
43:55
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43:59
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44:01
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44:03
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44:06
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44:09
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44:14
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44:16
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44:20
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44:23
Speaker 1: Tavin Bryant, you're starting three technique? No, I'm not. That's
44:27
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44:32
Speaker 1: Here's my problem with Taven. That just drives me crazy.
44:34
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44:36
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44:38
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44:41
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44:44
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44:47
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44:50
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44:54
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44:58
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45:00
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45:02
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45:05
Speaker 1: is like like he'll have these splash plays and like
45:08
Speaker 1: power and good and you're like yes, But then in
45:11
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45:14
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45:18
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45:21
Speaker 1: And so it's like this conundrum you have, And I
45:24
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45:26
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45:29
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45:33
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45:36
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45:38
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45:39
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45:43
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45:46
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45:48
Speaker 1: He's big, he's probably the strongest guy on the defensive line. Yeah,
45:51
Speaker 1: but that doesn't equal talent. Let me let me finish.
45:53
Speaker 1: He is quick off the ball, he has he has suddenness, short, airy, quickness.
45:59
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46:02
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46:05
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46:08
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46:13
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46:15
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46:18
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46:20
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46:22
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46:25
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46:27
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46:30
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46:37
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46:38
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46:41
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46:45
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46:53
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46:54
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50:34
Speaker 1: Needs were really early in this. We've got a lot
50:36
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50:39
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50:43
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50:48
Speaker 1: well you can't because I think both of us would
50:50
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50:56
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50:59
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51:01
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51:06
Speaker 1: I mean, he has a big cap number. I don't
51:11
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51:16
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51:19
Speaker 1: You have offensive line issues. He like him and or
51:24
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51:27
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51:29
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51:30
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51:32
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51:36
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51:42
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51:45
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51:48
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51:54
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51:59
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52:03
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52:05
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52:10
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52:18
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52:20
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52:23
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52:27
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52:29
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52:34
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52:39
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52:42
Speaker 1: they have one on this roster um. They know that
52:45
Speaker 1: they needed this this offense. When you only score twenty
52:49
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52:52
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52:56
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52:59
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53:02
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53:06
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53:10
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53:13
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53:15
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53:19
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53:23
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53:26
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53:28
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53:31
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53:35
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53:38
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53:42
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53:44
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53:47
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53:52
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53:55
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54:00
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54:03
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54:07
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54:09
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54:12
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54:16
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54:19
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Speaker 1: go to? You? None? What do you mean? He was,
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Speaker 1: why would you go? You're gonna be the You're gonna
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Speaker 1: be a top five pick. Don't do anything, just healthy
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Speaker 1: advice I ever gone. I was like okay, because I
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Speaker 1: was get ready to sign up just be healthy. Hey,
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Speaker 1: well done, guys. We'll let's do it again next week. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I might be calling in. I might be I'm out
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Speaker 1: of town next week, but I'll be dialing in by phone.
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Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Jeff Flagerman, Tony but Lly, our entire crew.
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Speaker 1: We'll catch you next time. The Duck Morown Show on
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Speaker 1: the Tag Wars Radio Network