Latest / INSIGHT TODAY / Trump's WH upgrades surpass $900M. Ex-aide calls it 'appalling'
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- 0:00Speaker 1: To reporting on the ballooning price tag for President Trump's
- 0:02Speaker 1: construction projects of the White House, The Washington Post reports
- 0:05Speaker 1: the Trump administration is said to spend at least nine
- 0:07Speaker 1: hundred million dollars, a majority of that for the new
- 0:10Speaker 1: ballroom complex, but also includes the new helipad and a
- 0:13Speaker 1: new visitor screening center. That number is primarily taxpayer dollars,
- 0:17Speaker 1: which the president, of course once said would not be
- 0:19Speaker 1: spent on the ballroom. Complicating the money trail, the Post
- 0:23Speaker 1: find the administration is moving some funds through an obscure
- 0:26Speaker 1: office called the Executive Residence, which is normally used for
- 0:29Speaker 1: housekeeping and repairs on the residential side of the White House.
- 0:33Speaker 1: The Washington Posts investigative reporter Jonathan O'Connell's on the byline
- 0:36Speaker 1: joins me, now, Jonathan, so just walk us through your
- 0:39Speaker 1: reporting on this. How much of this nine hundred and
- 0:41Speaker 1: twenty seven million, according to the reporting by you, is
- 0:45Speaker 1: going to projects that could be considered necessary and might
- 0:48Speaker 1: have been undertaken no matter who was in the White House,
- 0:50Speaker 1: compared to how much is going to President Trump's personal
- 0:53Speaker 1: priorities like the ballroom, the new helipad, the Rose Garden revamp,
- 0:56Speaker 1: the list goes on.
- 0:59Speaker 2: Oh sure, I think the White House visitor Center has
- 1:01Speaker 2: been envisioned for a number of years. Previous administries have
- 1:04Speaker 2: talked about it, and there's been some planning around it.
- 1:07Speaker 1: You know.
- 1:07Speaker 2: The centurpiece of this, of course, of the East Wing,
- 1:09Speaker 2: where President Trump would like to have a new ballroom.
- 1:11Speaker 2: There have been discussions previously about whether the East Wing
- 1:14Speaker 2: needs upgrades or could have a larger ballroom. The issue
- 1:17Speaker 2: here really is that he just knocked it down without
- 1:21Speaker 2: a plan that Congress had seen and without any funding
- 1:24Speaker 2: that Congress had at least intentionally provided for it. So
- 1:28Speaker 2: now he's somewhat locked up in court over whether he
- 1:30Speaker 2: can continue going because he did this sort of work
- 1:33Speaker 2: around with Congress.
- 1:36Speaker 1: And how much of this is it known? Is taxpayer
- 1:39Speaker 1: money and are there any restraints on how it's actually used.
- 1:44Speaker 2: So this nine hundred and twenty seven million dollars Anderson
- 1:47Speaker 2: is the best tally we have of that we can see.
- 1:49Speaker 2: Around three hundred and five million uppears to be donations,
- 1:53Speaker 2: private donations, and the President has said repeatedly that the
- 1:56Speaker 2: ballroom portion of the East Wing will be paid for
- 1:58Speaker 2: by private donations. Sometimes he's left out the reality that
- 2:03Speaker 2: the rest of the East wing is going to be
- 2:04Speaker 2: paid for by the public. And we can see again
- 2:08Speaker 2: like these large transfers of money by the Budget Office
- 2:11Speaker 2: that are coming from the Secret Service, from the White
- 2:13Speaker 2: House Military Office, that are you know, they've been appropriated
- 2:17Speaker 2: money by Congress. Is a little unclear with the source
- 2:19Speaker 2: of some of them are.
- 2:20Speaker 3: But beyond that, is.
- 2:23Speaker 1: There any historical precedent for renovations in and around the
- 2:27Speaker 1: White House at this scope in this expense.
- 2:31Speaker 2: Man Anderson, you got to go back a pretty long way.
- 2:33Speaker 2: I mean, in two thousand and eight, two thousand and
- 2:35Speaker 2: nine under George D. Bush and President Obama, we had
- 2:39Speaker 2: some upgrades to really like infrastructure of the buildings. It
- 2:42Speaker 2: is a very old building, you know, like the lighting, HVAC, electrical,
- 2:46Speaker 2: that sort of thing. Other than that, you got to
- 2:49Speaker 2: go back to President Truman because at that time a
- 2:52Speaker 2: significant portion of the White House is really almost falling apart,
- 2:55Speaker 2: and there was an expensive at the time renovation. But
- 2:59Speaker 2: even that, like previous presidents, when they want to make
- 3:02Speaker 2: our previous administrations, when they want to make upgrades to
- 3:04Speaker 2: the White House, the People's House, they make a proposal,
- 3:08Speaker 2: they send their people to Congress to ask for money,
- 3:11Speaker 2: and the Congress debates whether they're provided it or not
- 3:13Speaker 2: and how quickly provide it, and then they use that
- 3:15Speaker 2: money and go out and contract for companies to build it,
- 3:18Speaker 2: and they just have skipped so many of those steps.
- 3:20Speaker 1: Here has the White House respondent you're reporting, Yes.
- 3:26Speaker 2: The again, they're standing firm on the idea that the ballroom,
- 3:29Speaker 2: specifically within the East Wing, will be paid for by
- 3:32Speaker 2: private donations. And they say that their transfers of these money,
- 3:36Speaker 2: this money that has been appropriate by Congress will be
- 3:40Speaker 2: spent and is being spent according to Congress's original intent,
- 3:44Speaker 2: without necessarily saying where the money is from and how
- 3:46Speaker 2: much they're planning to spend at all.
- 3:48Speaker 1: Jonathan O'Connell is always great reporting. Thank you so much.
- 3:51Speaker 3: Sarah. Start with you obviously spend time at the White
- 3:55Speaker 3: House in this administration previously. What do you think about this?
- 4:00Speaker 3: I mean, this cannot be good for Donald Trump.
- 4:03Speaker 4: Let me just say that it seems like Trump missed
- 4:05Speaker 4: his true calling, which was to be first lady or
- 4:07Speaker 4: first gentleman, so he could actually take the time to
- 4:09Speaker 4: focus on these types of pet projects of decorating the
- 4:12Speaker 4: White House, but instead he's president of the United States.
- 4:15Speaker 4: These should not be his priorities. But spending almost a
- 4:18Speaker 4: billion dollars on this is not what voters signed up for,
- 4:21Speaker 4: especially when we're facing an affordability crisis. Voters don't want
- 4:24Speaker 4: to see him like playing with these pet projects and
- 4:28Speaker 4: designs of the new ballroom and all these things. And
- 4:30Speaker 4: the main issue here is too that he's focusing on
- 4:33Speaker 4: this instead of other issues facing our country. He's also
- 4:37Speaker 4: stealing taxpayer money to pay for it and funneling it
- 4:40Speaker 4: from other funds, and one of those being the Secret Service.
- 4:44Speaker 4: He's taking over four hundred million dollars in funding that
- 4:47Speaker 4: was appropriated by Congress for Secret Service to hire and
- 4:51Speaker 4: train new agents. So it's just appalling to me that
- 4:54Speaker 4: this is what he's doing. He should be going through
- 4:56Speaker 4: the process of getting Congress to appropriate these funds these renovations.
- 5:01Speaker 4: He tried and he failed, and now he has to
- 5:02Speaker 4: steal it from other funds for the TAXPA.
- 5:05Speaker 5: No, I think that the I think we've seen the
- 5:06Speaker 5: result of it. I mean, many times the Trump administration
- 5:10Speaker 5: is giving out no big contracts to donors and friends
- 5:12Speaker 5: of the family, et cetera. We saw how that worked
- 5:15Speaker 5: with the reflecting Pool and that what is called a
- 5:18Speaker 5: big reflecting pool. I mean, you give out contracts to
- 5:20Speaker 5: people who are ill equipped to do the work necessary.
- 5:22Speaker 3: You know, just the reflecting pool. It's the balls, it's
- 5:26Speaker 3: the ballroom. It's also the helipad, it's the Rose golf clubs,
- 5:32Speaker 3: the golf I mean, there's there's a huge number of
- 5:35Speaker 3: projects here.
- 5:35Speaker 5: I don't know what happens to conservatism. I mean I
- 5:37Speaker 5: remember when Republicans.
- 5:38Speaker 3: I don't know what happens to separation of powers.
- 5:40Speaker 5: At some point, Congress is going to have to reassert
- 5:42Speaker 5: its role in our democracy, but it's not going to
- 5:44Speaker 5: happen in under the current circumstances.
- 5:47Speaker 3: And I also have an issue with his taste. You know,
- 5:49Speaker 3: I live in DC and all.
- 5:50Speaker 6: That yellow gold stuff is gaudy, and now you live
- 5:53Speaker 6: in Virginia's good point.
- 5:58Speaker 5: I don't mean I corrected, but you know, all that
- 6:03Speaker 5: yellow gold everywhere, it's it's tacky.
- 6:06Speaker 4: And and he's also out of touch because it's a
- 6:08Speaker 4: slap in the face to voters who are dealing with affordability.
- 6:10Speaker 3: Just briefly, Scott, who should replace Caroline Lovett? Obviously she
- 6:16Speaker 3: is stepping down, and are you throwing how do you think,
- 6:20Speaker 3: who do you? Yeah, well, first of all, you're throwing
- 6:22Speaker 3: your hat in the ring, and will you.
- 6:23Speaker 4: Serve Scott answer the question?
- 6:25Speaker 5: Now, look, answer the question.
- 6:27Speaker 6: I don't know, but I'll tell you this. Caroline Lovett
- 6:30Speaker 6: has been maybe the greatest White House Press secretary in
- 6:34Speaker 6: the last thirty years at least, she's been nothing short
- 6:37Speaker 6: of brilliant. She's done it while raising a young family.
- 6:40Speaker 6: I think it's great that she's going to go spend
- 6:41Speaker 6: time with her family. But I don't know a single
- 6:43Speaker 6: Republican in the country who isn't in all of and
- 6:46Speaker 6: an appreciation of Caroline tonight. So godspeed on your journey
- 6:49Speaker 6: back to your family. You've done great.
- 6:51Speaker 3: Do you want the job or not?
- 6:52Speaker 5: Let me help Scott. Democrats are afraid of Scott Jennings
- 6:54Speaker 5: becoming press.
- 6:57Speaker 7: You've got the job.
- 6:59Speaker 4: Of my you know.
- 7:00Speaker 6: Obama renovated the complex three hundred and seventy six million,
- 7:03Speaker 6: which is about five seventy and.
- 7:04Speaker 3: Didn't use as much. Goal didn't use this much.
- 7:06Speaker 6: I'm just saying it's not unprecedented for presidents to spend
- 7:08Speaker 6: a few hundred million renovating the White House Complex.
- 7:11Speaker 4: Every One knocked down the East Wing without telling anyone.
- 7:13Speaker 6: Well, it'll be better when it's done.
- 7:14Speaker 2: Josh.
- 7:15Speaker 7: The Washing Post as a really smart story, speaking of
- 7:18Speaker 7: Secret Service needed to keep the presidents safe. They're reporting
- 7:21Speaker 7: that the Trump administration is playing these millions from Secret
- 7:23Speaker 7: Service funding to pay for the construction of White House projects,
- 7:25Speaker 7: projects like the ballroom, the helicopter pad, so on and
- 7:28Speaker 7: so forth. Washing Post is the administration planning to spend
- 7:31Speaker 7: at least nine hundred million dollars, five hundred million of
- 7:33Speaker 7: it coming from the Secret Service and White House Military Office.
- 7:37Speaker 7: I know that's not how Congress appropriated it. OWENB can
- 7:40Speaker 7: do a lot of things. It turns out there's a
- 7:42Speaker 7: lot of gray area there and they've figured all that out.
- 7:44Speaker 8: What's your read on, Well, first off, the reason OWENB
- 7:47Speaker 8: can figure that out is because Congress is unwilling to
- 7:49Speaker 8: exert its own authority. That's the key. And the founders
- 7:53Speaker 8: of the constitution of this country always assume there'd be
- 7:56Speaker 8: somebody like Donald Trump that would come along. They never
- 7:58Speaker 8: assumed that Congress would so willingly give up its power.
- 8:01Speaker 8: What they're planning to do, I'm guessing, is to use
- 8:04Speaker 8: this budget and then come to Congress later and say
- 8:07Speaker 8: that they have to worry about security of the president
- 8:09Speaker 8: and everybody else and they need more money to cover that,
- 8:12Speaker 8: and Congress will be like, well, sure, we want to
- 8:13Speaker 8: keep the president safe.
- 8:14Speaker 3: Now.
- 8:15Speaker 8: Also keep in mind they have pulled Secret Service protection
- 8:18Speaker 8: and other protection from former administration officials. They did this
- 8:23Speaker 8: all within like the first month. You think of John
- 8:25Speaker 8: Bolton and others, a Mike Pompeo, they pulled protection from them.
- 8:29Speaker 8: Even again, even members of their own administration. They play
- 8:33Speaker 8: games with this, and I think Congress needs to stand
- 8:35Speaker 8: up and say no, you can't do it. And if
- 8:36Speaker 8: Congress does that, they can stop it from happening.
- 8:40Speaker 3: That won't happen.
- 8:41Speaker 7: Yeah, it figure scross though. I saw what you're doing there.
- 8:43Speaker 7: It's a super important point. Don't blame ob don't blame us, vote,
- 8:47Speaker 7: don't blame the administration. They're doing what they can because
- 8:49Speaker 7: Congress is abdicating their responsibility.