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The Bolt Report | 24 July · The Bolt Report

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Speaker 1: He's reform.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Obviously, I'm not Andrew Bold. He'll
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Speaker 2: be back with you tomorrow night. Steve Price in the
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Speaker 2: chair filling in for Andrew. Coming up, Biden out Harrison
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Speaker 2: as the presidential campaign gets nasty straight away. Trudy McIntosh
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Speaker 2: is in Washington for US tonight. She'll look at the
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Speaker 2: latest polls and the savage takedown of the Secret Service
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Speaker 2: boss Kimberly Cheetle. Victoria police seem to have finally run
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Speaker 2: out of patients, with Pro Palestine protesters using pepper spray
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Speaker 2: to break up a rally outside of Melbourne Arms factory.
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Speaker 2: It's about time, I would think talk to the Victorian
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Speaker 2: opposition about that. And security expert Neil Fergus is in
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Speaker 2: Paris for US tonight. He's there for the Olympic Games,
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Speaker 2: with the opening ceremony now just four days away, and
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Speaker 2: our athletes have been warned about leaving the village while
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Speaker 2: French police investigate the gang rate of an Australian tourist.
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Speaker 2: And I'll talk climate politics and the surging price of
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Speaker 2: energy with our panel. Michael Costa will join me as
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Speaker 2: well as Senator Holly Hughes. First, though, nuclear energy and
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Speaker 2: the potential timeline for construction of a small modulo reactor
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Speaker 2: or reactors to sit alongside renewables and gas. Well. Strangely,
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Speaker 2: it depends on what media you consume as to whether
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Speaker 2: this version of nuclear energy is on the way or not.
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Speaker 2: And curiously, the conflicting reports come from the same agency,
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Speaker 2: the Australian Academy of Technological Sciences and Engineering. Funny that
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Speaker 2: the headline in the Herald Sun and other news tabloids
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Speaker 2: tabloids today says nuclear possible by the twenty thirties. Flick
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Speaker 2: to the nine newspapers though, and it's a very different story.
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Speaker 2: The Cinnimoni Heralds online report of the same study is
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Speaker 2: this top agency cast doubt on nuclear reactors flagged by Dutton.
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Speaker 2: Now I had to check we were talking about the
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Speaker 2: same agency, the same analysis, and sure enough we are. So.
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Speaker 2: The obvious question is how can two different reporters come
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Speaker 2: to two vastly different assessments of the very same thing.
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Speaker 2: And I think we all know the answer to that question.
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Speaker 2: With Nine's version being clearly anti nuclear, perhaps because the
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Speaker 2: reporter thinks that's what her audience wants to read. The
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Speaker 2: nine reporter begins her piece like this, a fully formed
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Speaker 2: market for small scale nuclear reactors is unlikely to develop
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Speaker 2: in Australia for more than twenty years because the cost
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Speaker 2: and the operational performance of the technology are yet to
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Speaker 2: be proven. Now, this apparently suits the narrative of that report,
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Speaker 2: and the reporter goes on to make the point Peter Dutton,
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Speaker 2: in releasing his energy plan in June, talked of nuclear
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Speaker 2: and since, of course he has made it clear Uton
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Speaker 2: led government would go down that path. So what does
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Speaker 2: this agency actually say about small modular nukes. Well, it
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Speaker 2: states that a number of prototypes of advanced nuclear reactors
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Speaker 2: could be operational in the first half of the twenty thirties,
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Speaker 2: so say in ten years time. In the report's words,
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Speaker 2: a fully formed and competitive small modular reactor the SMR
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Speaker 2: market capable of delivering significant numbers of next of kind
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Speaker 2: reactors is a ten year challenge. But she says it
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Speaker 2: is possible that several prototype SMRs may be licensed, commission
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Speaker 2: and built in an OECD country by the mid twenty thirties.
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Speaker 2: So the Anti nuclear report pushes the timeline out to
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Speaker 2: the twenty forties, when the actual agency talks of ten years,
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Speaker 2: not twenty. This is the sort of nonsense this debate creates.
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Speaker 2: It's as clear as the nose on your face that
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Speaker 2: Australia needs the full suite of energy resources if we
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Speaker 2: are to avoid industry wrecking and community smashing blackouts. Now,
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Speaker 2: as Peter Dutton said today.
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Speaker 3: We can't continue a situation that Labour has us on
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Speaker 3: a renewables only policy because as we know the power
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Speaker 3: prices are just going to keep going up under this
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Speaker 3: Prime minister. We also know that we're going to see
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Speaker 3: blackouts and brownouts. We don't want a California type situation
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Speaker 3: in our country where there are scheduled blackouts and brownouts.
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Speaker 2: And as everyone forgetting the actual cost to business and jobs.
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Speaker 3: Businesses just won't stay here. High energy use businesses won't compete.
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Speaker 3: They can't manufacture in an environment like that. They go
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Speaker 3: to Malaysia, or they'll go to Wyoming or somewhere else
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Speaker 3: in the world where they can get reliable and.
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Speaker 2: Cheaper energy, spreada Dutton.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: To prove that point, just have a look at the
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Speaker 2: most recent AEMO quarterly report, which coincidentally was also out today.
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Speaker 2: It reveals a WAP forty three percent increase in the
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Speaker 2: wholesale price of electricity for Victorians compared to this time
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Speaker 2: last year. The average cost of wholesale electricity in Victoria
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Speaker 2: between April to June reached one hundred and twenty seven
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Speaker 2: dollars a megawatt hour, up from just thirty nine dollars
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Speaker 2: compared with the same quarter last year, one hundred and
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Speaker 2: twenty seven, up from just thirty nine. And why, well,
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Speaker 2: a cold snap in that state combined with wait for it,
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Speaker 2: a renewable's drought and what does that mean exactly well,
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Speaker 2: there has been and this is a new one to me,
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Speaker 2: a wind drought and not much sunshine. Just let that
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Speaker 2: sink in for a second, and imagine where we are
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Speaker 2: in the middle of Chris Bowen's green dream and coal
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Speaker 2: has been turned off. We don't like gas much anymore,
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Speaker 2: and it's been cold and not very windy, and there
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Speaker 2: hasn't been much rain.
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Speaker 3: What this report shows is that the lights are going
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Speaker 3: to go out and that winds in particular is not reliable.
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Speaker 3: You can't run a full time economy on part time power.
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Speaker 3: And we know that when we've got no wind blowing,
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Speaker 3: when you've got a period of rain or cloudy weather,
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Speaker 3: the intermittent power is not feeding into the network, and
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Speaker 3: you need to have a reliable based slow power.
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Speaker 2: Dutton's exactly right. Try running a full time economy on
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Speaker 2: part time power. It's impossible. Can you imagine what the
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Speaker 2: wholesale price of electricity would be then, no coal, no gas,
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Speaker 2: one hundred percent renewables, reliable power gone. It doesn't bear
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Speaker 2: thinking about. But I'll tell you what it will be
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Speaker 2: a lot higher than one hundred and twenty seven dollars
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Speaker 2: a mega what hour. That same report, by the way,
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Speaker 2: talks about the lowest winds in seven years in Victoria,
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Speaker 2: meaning wind generation was down by twenty percent, and that
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Speaker 2: lack of rain saw a hydro generation fall by eighteen percent.
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Speaker 2: Oh and by the way, Victoria's one hundred and twenty
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Speaker 2: seven dollars a mega what hour was the third highest.
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Speaker 2: In the New South Wales was one hundred and seventy
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Speaker 2: three dollars, in South Australia one hundred and thirty five dollars.
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Speaker 2: And what did our reckless energy Minister Chris Bowen have
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Speaker 2: to say about all of this? He said, well, energy
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Speaker 2: prices are a serious issue for businesses, but back the
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Speaker 2: government's renewables planned, saying wholesale prices were lower than when
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Speaker 2: the coalition left office. He wasn't finished making a gift
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Speaker 2: of himself, though, He went on to say the data
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Speaker 2: shows renewables provide cheaper power and when we are forced
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Speaker 2: to rely on cold generation and aging, unreliable assets, it
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Speaker 2: drives prices up. Now Bowen didn't mention the wind drought.
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Speaker 2: I guess he missed that part of the report. Well
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Speaker 2: you just shake your head at all of that. Let's
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Speaker 2: get straight into it tonight. Forming New South Wales Labor
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Speaker 2: Treasurer Michael Costs one part of our panel, and we're
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Speaker 2: also joined by Liberal Senator Holly Hughes. Welcome to you both. Holly,
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Speaker 2: you were the shadow Climate chan Engine Energy Minister for
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Speaker 2: a long time. Spokesman, you know the reality here. We've
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Speaker 2: got two different takes on the story. Where's the truth lie?
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Speaker 4: Well, the truth does not lie in an ideologically driven
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Speaker 4: renewables only answer to our energy solution. It is a
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Speaker 4: complete and utter myth that our country is going to
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Speaker 4: be able to be fuelled and the light's kept on
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Speaker 4: and businesses kept running on a fully renewable system. It
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Speaker 4: just doesn't exist. It's not going to happen, and we
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Speaker 4: are consistently being lied to when it comes to the
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Speaker 4: true cost of renewables, when you look at the transmission
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Speaker 4: lines costs, what is going through communities, and you know
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Speaker 4: we're seeing companies now not being able to live up
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Speaker 4: to those promises of projects to be delivered in transmission lines. Anyway,
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Speaker 4: you mentioned the wind rout, Well, you know this is
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Speaker 4: the sort of stuff that's going to continue to happen.
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Speaker 4: We're going to see power start to go out when
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Speaker 4: the sun's not shining and the wind's not blowing.
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Speaker 2: You ever heard of the term wind drought before?
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Speaker 5: Yes, I have, Steve, And the reason I have is
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Speaker 5: I looked at up a few months back and Germany
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Speaker 5: went through a wind drought that went for six weeks
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Speaker 5: and they had to import nuclear energy from France.
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Speaker 2: So it's very common to have wind.
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Speaker 5: Droughts, and it is a real problem unless you've got
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Speaker 5: baseload power, and you've got reliable baseload power, and you've
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Speaker 5: got accessible baseload power. And look, the only solution to
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Speaker 5: all of this is gas. And you know, we've just
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Speaker 5: got to be real about this. Nuclear is certainly an
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Speaker 5: option for the future, but in the meantm we've just
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Speaker 5: got to get real about gas. It can't work without gas.
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Speaker 5: And that's the bottom line here, absolutely.
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Speaker 2: Well, speaking of gas and speaking of energy, both of you.
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Speaker 2: As I mentioned at the top of the show, wholesale
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Speaker 2: electricity prices have been going up, forcing energy bills up again,
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Speaker 2: especially for commercial businesses, all because and hear this a
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Speaker 2: prolonged stretch of cold weather. So we shouldn't be surprised
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Speaker 2: by this. I mean, Holly, we've been saying this over
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Speaker 2: and over and over again. How is it that Chris
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Speaker 2: Bowen can just sit there and go, well, no, cheaper
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Speaker 2: renewables are cheaper, and that's the road we're going down.
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Speaker 5: I mean, blackout.
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Speaker 4: Bowen is just on an ideological crusade.
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Speaker 6: It's disgraceful and.
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Speaker 4: I mean, as a nation we are basically floating on gas.
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Speaker 4: It is just obsceen this ideological objection against gas, the
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Speaker 4: fact we're exporting so much. Michael's right, we should be
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Speaker 4: trying to get as much gas into the system as
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Speaker 4: possible whilst we make a transition to a much better
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Speaker 4: balance of energy solutions. We should be looking to nuclear
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Speaker 4: in the future because it is zero emissions, but it
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Speaker 4: is reliable base load energy. That's what will keep the
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Speaker 4: lights on. That's what will keep power prices down. But
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Speaker 4: in the interim we need to make sure we have
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Speaker 4: gas firming up the system. Wind and solar are simply
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Speaker 4: not going to cut.
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Speaker 2: It, Michael. In the great socialist state of Victoria, the
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Speaker 2: government's actually legislated to ban gas all connections to new
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Speaker 2: residential properties. I don't know if the rest of Australia
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Speaker 2: knows this, but all new residential properties are not going
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Speaker 2: to be able to connect to gas. The federal government, though,
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Speaker 2: on the other hands, just to prove too new offshoal
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Speaker 2: gas exploration licenses, one of them on the Victorian coast.
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Speaker 2: So the left hand doesn't know what the right hand's doing.
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Speaker 5: Michael, Well, that's absolutely right, and I think your expression
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Speaker 5: about left versus right is probably where it lies. I mean,
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Speaker 5: you've got a left wing government's absolutely crazy down there,
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Speaker 5: and I don't.
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Speaker 2: Know, I think it's the left versus the far left.
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Speaker 5: Well, whatever it is, it's it is completely irrational. The
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Speaker 5: federal government's done the right thing here on this particular issue.
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Speaker 5: I wish they'd scraped the wind farms they're talking about
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Speaker 5: putting off the coast up here where I am However,
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Speaker 5: this just proves the point. I mean, we've got to
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Speaker 5: have gas. This is going to take longer than they think.
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Speaker 5: People in other countries have realized the you know, the
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Speaker 5: magnitude of the task.
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Speaker 2: I mean, look, Steve, they.
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Speaker 5: Haven't even looked at the question of minerals. There's not
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Speaker 5: enough minerals. I've seen reports to show there's not enough
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Speaker 5: minerals available and the current mining parameters to be able
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Speaker 5: to make the batteries that you require to firm up
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Speaker 5: the system for a couple of hours. But if you
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Speaker 5: get a wind rout of six weeks to our battery
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Speaker 5: is not going to help you at all. So, you know,
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Speaker 5: the whole thing is bonkers. It needs to be reviewed
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Speaker 5: and rational people need to be setting policy, not people
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Speaker 5: like Chris Barton, who's really only interested in keeping left
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Speaker 5: wing votes in those inner city seats.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to go home tonight and fire up the
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Speaker 2: walk on my gas top. That's what I'm going to do. Look,
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Speaker 2: I'm going to talk to Trudy Macintosh in Washington shortly.
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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris looks like she's going to be
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Speaker 2: the Democratic nominee. Everybody's come out today and said that's
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Speaker 2: the one they want to choose. Apart from the Obamas,
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Speaker 2: they've not said anything. Kamala Harris also didn't waste any
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Speaker 2: time is given a hint I reckon Holly that she's
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Speaker 2: going to get personal on Trump. Have listened to this.
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Speaker 7: In those roles, I took on perpetrators of all kinds,
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Speaker 7: predators who abused women, fraudsters who ripped off consumers, cheaters
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Speaker 7: who broke the rules for their own game. So hear
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Speaker 7: me when I say, I know Donald Trump's.
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Speaker 2: Tape preaching to the converted Holly, but she's obviously going
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Speaker 2: to play the aggressive line there.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I just think we've all got to remember, though,
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Speaker 4: when you talk about American politics, get out the vote
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Speaker 4: is the biggest part of their campaign. It's appealing to
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Speaker 4: their base and it's motivating their base to get to
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Speaker 4: the polling stations. And so Kamala Harris really has to
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Speaker 4: come up against now what a lot of Democrats are
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Speaker 4: going to feel that we're deceived in the way that
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Speaker 4: the whole Biden thing has been. You know, he's completely
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Speaker 4: on top of his game. He's so good, he's absolutely fantastic.
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Speaker 4: There's no simility, there's no age issues. He's you know, wonderful.
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Speaker 4: Oh oops, Actually he's not up to it. When it
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Speaker 4: was all on the show for the world to see
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Speaker 4: during that debate. I'm not sure that's going to work
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Speaker 4: for her. I don't. I don't think if I was
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Speaker 4: rubbing the campaign, that would be the tactic I'd be taking.
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Speaker 6: I'd be wanting to show that the age difference.
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Speaker 4: And you know she there was some articles that I
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Speaker 4: saw about her, you know, her step children absolutely adoring her,
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Speaker 4: the fact that she's friends with her husband's ex wife.
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Speaker 4: I actually think that appeal would work better with those
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Speaker 4: middle of the road female voters more than these attacks.
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Speaker 4: And we know every time Trump was charged with something,
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Speaker 4: his popularity went up and his fundraising went through the roof.
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Speaker 4: I just don't think it's going to work.
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Speaker 2: The annoying laugh turns me off. Michael ahead of the
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Speaker 2: US Secret Service, not surprisingly, this Kim Cheatle, Kimberly Cheatle.
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Speaker 2: She's resigned. I mean, she had no other option, did she,
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Speaker 2: After what we saw in Milwaukee, where obviously the President
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Speaker 2: stood up there and talked about how he was left
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Speaker 2: hanging out there to be assassinated by that kid on
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Speaker 2: the roof.
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Speaker 5: I think there's no doubt about that. And if you
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Speaker 5: saw any of the congressional hearings, the CEO attacking her viciously,
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Speaker 5: it was the first time I actually agreed with her
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Speaker 5: in my life. The bottom line was a complete failure,
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Speaker 5: and more than that, there's an attempted cover up. I mean,
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Speaker 5: you know, they're not going to release reviews for months
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Speaker 5: and months after the event, which means, if you look
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Speaker 5: at it theoretically, that if there are any gaps, they're
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Speaker 5: not going to plug them until their reviews are completed.
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Speaker 5: It was a completely shambolic performance and she should have went.
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Speaker 5: I'm glad she went.
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Speaker 2: There is a push in Victoria, at least again the
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Speaker 2: great the Social State of Victoria Holly to legalize the use,
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Speaker 2: the sale, and the consumption of cannabis. I shouldn't be surprised,
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Speaker 2: given who runs Victoria. But isn't that just a slippery
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Speaker 2: slope to legalizing the possession of other drugs like Canberra's.
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Speaker 4: Don't well, exactly like Canberra has done. But the one
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Speaker 4: thing since the legalization of cannabis and marijuana being smoked
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Speaker 4: in the streets in a number of states or cities
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Speaker 4: throughout the US now and you speak to people that
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Speaker 4: have been over there. I haven't been over for a
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Speaker 4: few years. But the people that I've spoken to that
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Speaker 4: have been over to these cities that now have legalized marijuana,
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Speaker 4: they have the dispensaries everywhere. Talk about the whole cities
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Speaker 4: just stinking of this smell. And none of them are
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Speaker 4: going particularly well. Even if you look at La New York,
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Speaker 4: all of them have significant economic declimb And I don't
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Speaker 4: think it is too big of a stretch to have
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Speaker 4: a look at some of the links between these things.
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Speaker 4: But yeah, it's not something that I'd be looking too.
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Speaker 4: I mean, you are in the great state of Victoria, Steve.
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Speaker 4: I mean, God bless you, because Michael and I are
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Speaker 4: very grateful to be from New South Wales.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't remind me, Michael. I mean, the Victorian government
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Speaker 2: would be better off trying to get on top of
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Speaker 2: the illegal tobacco industry which is being run by biki
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Speaker 2: gangs organized crime. But you know cigarette vaping shops get
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Speaker 2: burnt down every night of the week.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, or even the CFMU and some of the problems
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Speaker 5: they've got in their construction industry would be higher priorities
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Speaker 5: than what they're talking about Look, the bottom line with legalization,
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Speaker 5: it hasn't worked. What it does is all it does
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Speaker 5: is make the illegal product even more attractive because it
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Speaker 5: is not regulated and it's actually cheaper on the streets.
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Speaker 5: That's been the experience in the US where they've done it.
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Speaker 5: So a lot of those so called businesses are going
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Speaker 5: to make millions of actually failing, you know, the legalized businesses.
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Speaker 5: In terms of what's required. You need a national approach
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Speaker 5: to This is my other problem with is you just
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Speaker 5: can't have one jurisdiction going off before you end up
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Speaker 5: doing is attracting social misfits and other people that you
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Speaker 5: don't want in your state unless there's a national approach
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Speaker 5: and some harmonizational legislation. I think the position we've got
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Speaker 5: at the moment that it's decriminalize for use by and
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Speaker 5: large is probably the only sane position at this stage.
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Speaker 2: Michael Costa, Holly Hughes All is great to catch up
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Speaker 2: with you both, Thanking you very much for joining us.
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Speaker 2: Now to the other major story of the day. There
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Speaker 2: were extraordinary scenes, and I'd say extraordinary because the Victoria
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Speaker 2: police have been unwilling to get involved in This happened
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Speaker 2: in the early hours of this morning, pro Palestinian protests
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Speaker 2: assembled there at the gates of a place that is
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Speaker 2: a metal processing business in Melbourne's North. They claim that
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Speaker 2: this company, Electron Mold, is arming Israel bi manufacturing metal
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Speaker 2: finishings for the F thirty five fighter jet. Now they
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Speaker 2: ignore the fact that those jets are also operated by
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Speaker 2: the Australian rat Police got there at four point thirty
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Speaker 2: and they had a horse, police on horse back on foot.
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Speaker 2: They just sployed pepper spray after the protesters refused to leave.
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Speaker 2: They were pretty ugly scenes, I must say. Police report
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Speaker 2: there was about sixty people there. The organized say it
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Speaker 2: was more like one hundred and fifty people and they
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Speaker 2: also claimed the organizer that protest forty of them were injured.
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Speaker 2: Here's a taste of what happened. I mean, it really
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Speaker 2: is pretty violent.
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Speaker 1: You sanctions stay violent.
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Speaker 2: When I say violent, I mean violent from the protesters
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Speaker 2: calling the police animals. Let's bring in Deputy Victorian Liberal
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Speaker 2: leader David Southwick. Great to see you again, David. Some
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Speaker 2: strong policing here finally. Good to be with you, Steve.
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Speaker 8: And all I can say is it's about time. These
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Speaker 8: protesters four days are targeting that particular small business. But
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Speaker 8: we've had it for nine months here in Victoria, and
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Speaker 8: these people want to shut down small business, they want
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Speaker 8: to shut down our streets in the city, shut down
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Speaker 8: our parliament, shutdown campuses, and they keep pushing the envelope
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Speaker 8: until finally we see today police responding and then they complain.
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Speaker 8: I mean, people have had enough and the violence that
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Speaker 8: these people show, many of them, as you see on
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Speaker 8: the footage, got their faces covered. They're not there for
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Speaker 8: a celebration. They're there to cause trouble and we need
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Speaker 8: police to act, which they have now. And simply these
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Speaker 8: type of extremists should not be allowed to run right
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Speaker 8: like they do in our states and hold our state
20:52
Speaker 8: to ransom like they have been doing.
20:56
Speaker 2: It's been very ugly. We've seen lots of violent clashes
20:59
Speaker 2: between protesters and people of the Jewish faith. I mean,
21:03
Speaker 2: it's been horrendous. In your own seat, and I would
21:08
Speaker 2: imagine you're quite happy the fact that the police have
21:12
Speaker 2: now decided that enough's enough. We're going to move these
21:14
Speaker 2: people on. One hundred percent.
21:17
Speaker 8: Steve I had a text tonight from some Jew hater
21:21
Speaker 8: that has said to me go back to Israeli fing
21:25
Speaker 8: dog and I'm sixth generation Australian, so you know, born
21:30
Speaker 8: and bred here and a proud j But nevertheless, you've
21:34
Speaker 8: got these haters that are targeting people just because of
21:38
Speaker 8: their belief and we can't have that here and they
21:41
Speaker 8: need to be need to have consequences like we've seen
21:45
Speaker 8: until such time as we see police and the government
21:48
Speaker 8: quite frankly, because the government have done absolutely nothing with this,
21:52
Speaker 8: we're going to see these people push the envelope. It's
21:54
Speaker 8: a slippery slope and we need action and these people
21:57
Speaker 8: need to be stopped. And I feel sorry for that
22:01
Speaker 8: small business now. They're trying to employ people, they're just
22:05
Speaker 8: trying to make a dollar, and the extremists want to
22:09
Speaker 8: shut down that small business.
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Speaker 2: David, you and I sat here stunned last week when
22:15
Speaker 2: we watched Premier Jacinda Allen, Tony Burke, the Federal Industrial
22:20
Speaker 2: Relations Minister, even the Prime Minister Anthony Albernezy going well
22:24
Speaker 2: we didn't know anything was wrong with what the CFMEU
22:26
Speaker 2: were up to. Well, this all gets a lot murkier.
22:29
Speaker 2: We had the nine investigation. Today we learn that the
22:32
Speaker 2: New South Wales cfmeused State Secretary blow called Darren Greenfield
22:36
Speaker 2: allegedly used is purported influence with CEABUS, the super fund
22:41
Speaker 2: linked to the construction industry to pitch contract offers on
22:45
Speaker 2: major construction projects to corrupt building First plus the CFMAU
22:49
Speaker 2: and Victoria. They've now allegedly been involved invoicing the Victorian
22:53
Speaker 2: government for they call ghost shifts which no workers actually
22:57
Speaker 2: turn up. A covert recording of ourself at CFMU fix it, David,
23:03
Speaker 2: You're not surprised. I'm not surprised. When is the state
23:06
Speaker 2: and federal government's going to own up and actually throw
23:09
Speaker 2: this union out of the union movement.
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Speaker 8: It's very sad, Steve, that our great state's become the
23:16
Speaker 8: gangster state. But didn't happen overnight. This has been almost
23:20
Speaker 8: a decade in the making. Ji Cindarellan has had the
23:23
Speaker 8: responsibility of the big Bill, she's cut the ribbon, she's
23:26
Speaker 8: celebrated that success, but wants to give a hospital hand
23:29
Speaker 8: pass other people when there are these problems. And again
23:32
Speaker 8: the government's saying as if they only found out about this.
23:35
Speaker 8: You mentioned ghost shifts. Twelve months ago. We raised the
23:39
Speaker 8: ghost shifts in the Parliament. It was referred to Victoria Police,
23:43
Speaker 8: the then Infrastructure Minister to cinderell and shrugged it off.
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Speaker 2: It was referred back.
23:49
Speaker 8: Nothing happened twelve months ago about the ghost shifts and
23:51
Speaker 8: now we're hearing more of it, so tip of the
23:54
Speaker 8: iceberg stuff. A number of ministers have been involved in this.
23:58
Speaker 8: It's not good enough for the government turn a blind eye,
24:01
Speaker 8: and the government can't be the ones to investigate themselves
24:04
Speaker 8: the very mess that they've created. It is now become
24:09
Speaker 8: against the state, A big rotten build to Cinderellen right
24:12
Speaker 8: in the heart of this, She's had two jobs, Steve,
24:15
Speaker 8: the Comwealth Games failure, millions of dollars of money that's
24:19
Speaker 8: been wasted as a result, and the big rotten build
24:22
Speaker 8: corruption biking gangs. And that is why when I go
24:25
Speaker 8: back to Parliament next week, the first thing on the
24:27
Speaker 8: agenda will be a bill to boot bikeys off these
24:33
Speaker 8: work sites, taxpayer work sites. And if the government is
24:36
Speaker 8: serious about doing something about the corruption and the bikes
24:40
Speaker 8: and the criminal activity, they would support our bill. And
24:43
Speaker 8: if not, they're complicit in everything, as they have been
24:46
Speaker 8: for almost a decade.
24:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, these allegations are really ugly. Just finally, before you go,
24:52
Speaker 2: when you get back to Parliament next week, you might
24:54
Speaker 2: ask the Treasurer of tim pallas Are how much was
24:58
Speaker 2: he aware of these allegations of the cu thuggery back
25:01
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty. You've got a concrete company wrote to
25:04
Speaker 2: the Treasurer and you know he's nowhere to be seen.
25:08
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see what his answer is when
25:10
Speaker 2: you ask him about that next week.
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Speaker 8: Great question, and we've asked today that every single minister,
25:17
Speaker 8: every single minister, every single labor member of Parliament need
25:20
Speaker 8: to disclose all the correspondents that they've had from people
25:24
Speaker 8: that have been bullied, the thuggery, the corruption that's just
25:27
Speaker 8: been shoved under the carpet. I mean the government can't
25:31
Speaker 8: turn around and say this just happened overnight. This is
25:33
Speaker 8: one of the worst things that we have seen of
25:36
Speaker 8: corruption here in this state. We've got to clean it
25:38
Speaker 8: up and the government can't be the ones to clean
25:40
Speaker 8: this up. We've called on a Royal Commission for this
25:43
Speaker 8: as well, because ultimately we've got to get to the
25:46
Speaker 8: bottom of it. We need an independent way to be
25:49
Speaker 8: able to come to clean up the issues of the CFMU.
25:54
Speaker 2: They should go, the government should.
25:56
Speaker 8: Ultimately go, and we've got to restore confidence in this
25:59
Speaker 8: great state of egrio. The gangster state should not be
26:01
Speaker 8: what Victoria is right now. And it really disappoints me
26:04
Speaker 8: that we've had labor fairly squarely in the middle of this.
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Speaker 2: David Southwick, great to catch up with you, Thank you
26:11
Speaker 2: very much. Now coming up after the break, we'll take
26:13
Speaker 2: you off to the US for the latest with Kamala Harris.
26:17
Speaker 2: She's fired up three thousand supporters while Donald Trump claims
26:20
Speaker 2: she will be easier to beat than Joe Biden. Plus
26:23
Speaker 2: we've got a new poll Welcome back, Steve Price in
26:29
Speaker 2: for Andrew Bolt. When you've got to say that the
26:31
Speaker 2: stepping down of Joe Biden and the elevation to presidential
26:35
Speaker 2: candidate of Kamala Harris has reinvigorated the Democrats. I mean really,
26:40
Speaker 2: their bid to hang onto the White House now looks
26:42
Speaker 2: in much better shape. Joining me now from Washington is
26:45
Speaker 2: Sky News senior reporter and she's doing a magnificent job,
26:49
Speaker 2: Trudy Macintosh. I'll get onto the polls. In a second treaty,
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Speaker 2: let's talk about the fallout from the assassination attempt on
26:56
Speaker 2: former President Donald Trump ten eleven days ago. As Secret
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Speaker 2: Service boss Kimberly Cheetle now she's gone.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's gone. Not really a surprise.
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Speaker 9: Yesterday after that big hearing, it lasted for more than
27:10
Speaker 9: five hours on Capitol Hill. At the end, in a
27:13
Speaker 9: very rare moment of bipartisanship here in Washington, DC, both
27:16
Speaker 9: the ranking chairman, a Republican, and the top Democrat on
27:19
Speaker 9: that committee saying that she needed to tender her resignation.
27:23
Speaker 9: Her answers yesterday a form of stonewalling, really about crucial
27:26
Speaker 9: questions nine days on from that assassination attempt, including why
27:30
Speaker 9: wasn't the rooftop secure? Basic information you think would be
27:33
Speaker 9: easy to say, things like how many gun casings were
27:36
Speaker 9: found on the roof Unable to get to those answers,
27:39
Speaker 9: so it was clearly untenable for her to go. She's
27:42
Speaker 9: now handed in her resignation and they are having an
27:44
Speaker 9: acting Secret Service director in what is an incredibly important
27:48
Speaker 9: and tense time here in America.
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Speaker 1: We are still months away from the campaign.
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Speaker 9: We're going to see more of these big campaign rallies,
27:54
Speaker 9: and we need to ensure that they are as safe
27:57
Speaker 9: as possible for not only the can but also those
28:01
Speaker 9: in the crowd, because things can go incredibly wrong.
28:03
Speaker 2: Here, Sky suggesting today I'm out of Washington. I think
28:07
Speaker 2: that the Secret Service have now said to Donald Trump's camp, look,
28:11
Speaker 2: we don't want you having any more of those outdoor rallies.
28:15
Speaker 1: And that wouldn't surprise me.
28:17
Speaker 9: The first rally we saw since that one in Butler,
28:19
Speaker 9: Pennsylvania the other day was at an indoor venue in Michigan.
28:24
Speaker 9: That's easier to secure. It just makes sense from a
28:27
Speaker 9: logistics standpoint. You'd hope that over time they're able to
28:31
Speaker 9: figure out a way to have politicians outdoors again, just
28:35
Speaker 9: because one time there was this massive security lapse, if
28:38
Speaker 9: they can figure out what went wrong and is sure
28:40
Speaker 9: that doesn't happen again. For example, extending the perimeter was
28:43
Speaker 9: one of the big discussions at that congressional hearing yesterday.
28:46
Speaker 9: Why was the perimeter so close and that building allowed
28:51
Speaker 9: to be outside of the Secret Service perimeter and looked
28:53
Speaker 9: after by local law enforcement.
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Speaker 1: So big lessons need to be learned from that event.
28:58
Speaker 2: There's a lot of wild rumors still going around Truty
29:00
Speaker 2: about exactly who did what and how it all unfolded.
29:04
Speaker 2: Are we going to get any more answers to exactly
29:07
Speaker 2: how Donald Trump was put in such a dangerous position?
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Speaker 9: Will we've seen the House here in America vote to
29:14
Speaker 9: have this task force, so as it was agreed by
29:17
Speaker 9: Democrats and Republicans. Again, so the task force we'll look
29:20
Speaker 9: into exactly what happened and the lessons. The FBI don't forget,
29:24
Speaker 9: is still working on the investigation into the shooter, fearing
29:27
Speaker 9: out the motive.
29:28
Speaker 1: Here we are ten days later, we still don't know that.
29:31
Speaker 9: And also there's going to be that Internal Secret Service
29:34
Speaker 9: Investigation Director Cheadle yesterday at the testimony said it was
29:38
Speaker 9: a sixty day review. A lot of pushback even from
29:41
Speaker 9: far left Democrats saying why is it going to take
29:45
Speaker 9: sixty days?
29:45
Speaker 1: It needs to be faster.
29:46
Speaker 9: But as you can see, there's a multitude of these
29:48
Speaker 9: inquiries and going to continue to learn more in the
29:50
Speaker 9: coming days.
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Speaker 2: I mentioned the reinvigoration of the Democrats campaign. Do you
29:55
Speaker 2: agree with that, Truty?
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Speaker 6: I think so.
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Speaker 9: You certainly saw that momentum today for Kamala harrishev on
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Speaker 9: the ground and Milwaukee, Wisconsin, her first presidential rally now
30:04
Speaker 9: that she's the presumptive Democrat nominee. She had more than
30:07
Speaker 9: three thousand people attend there. You'd think, Okay, that's not
30:09
Speaker 9: a huge number. It's the biggest crowd according to her campaign,
30:13
Speaker 9: of any of these Democrat events we've seen in this
30:15
Speaker 9: presidential cycle. What does that tell you about the enthusiasm
30:18
Speaker 9: that was out there for Joe Biden's campaign. He wasn't
30:21
Speaker 9: getting those sort of crowds. I think some people are
30:24
Speaker 9: going a little too far though. Today they're trying to
30:25
Speaker 9: compare Kamala Harris's bid in the last thirty six hours
30:29
Speaker 9: to that of Barack.
30:29
Speaker 1: Obama in two thousand and eight. There was much bigger grounds.
30:32
Speaker 9: Well for Barack Obama, I'd have to say back in
30:34
Speaker 9: the day, they can tap into some of that, but
30:37
Speaker 9: she's still got a way to go if that's where they're.
30:38
Speaker 1: Trying to compare it to.
30:40
Speaker 2: She's no shrinking Violet. I mean, she did climb straight
30:43
Speaker 2: into Donald Trump. She said, look, when I was working
30:46
Speaker 2: as a California prosecutor before she became attorney general of
30:49
Speaker 2: that state, she said, look, I've seen his type before.
30:53
Speaker 2: Then she goes on to talk about, you know, people
30:56
Speaker 2: attacking women and fraudsters. So she's not going she's he's
31:00
Speaker 2: really going to have a crack at him.
31:02
Speaker 9: No, and that's going to be the key line We're
31:05
Speaker 9: now hearing as a former prosecutor. They want this contrast
31:08
Speaker 9: to be a prosecutor versus a convicted criminal in Trump.
31:11
Speaker 9: And don't forget back in the presidential race for the
31:15
Speaker 9: Democrats in twenty twenty where Krmala Harris went on that
31:19
Speaker 9: stage alongside Joe Biden, both of them just competitors at
31:23
Speaker 9: the time, and she took him head on over that
31:25
Speaker 9: issue of bussing and that was such an influenced moment
31:29
Speaker 9: in her run at the time. For the president, she
31:32
Speaker 9: doesn't shy away from these sort of moments. I think
31:34
Speaker 9: there's been a tendency to underestimate Kamala Harris and there's
31:37
Speaker 9: a bit of a character sure that's painted of her.
31:40
Speaker 9: But the first real opportunity we're going to see that
31:43
Speaker 9: is the head to head in that presidential debate. Donald
31:46
Speaker 9: Trump's now saying he wants to have more than one.
31:48
Speaker 9: So fascinating to see the two of them in the
31:49
Speaker 9: same room and how those competing lines stuck up.
31:53
Speaker 2: You can read truly a lot into the various polls.
31:55
Speaker 2: There is a couple out since she's been elevated, they've
31:58
Speaker 2: got her slightly in front. What do you make of
32:01
Speaker 2: those numbers?
32:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's always hard to know, isn't it. With polling.
32:04
Speaker 9: The Ruter Zipsos poll out this morning has her nose
32:06
Speaker 9: in front the head of Trump in the two way contest.
32:09
Speaker 9: I think interesting when it comes to add RFK Junior
32:12
Speaker 9: into that mix and she goes four points ahead of Trump.
32:14
Speaker 9: So outside that margin of error are the poles, though,
32:16
Speaker 9: sewing things a neck and neck in the national race.
32:19
Speaker 1: As we know, though it's not about the national race.
32:21
Speaker 9: This is a state by state proposition and it comes
32:24
Speaker 9: down to those crucial sitting states. When we start to
32:26
Speaker 9: see more of those poles coming in in the next
32:28
Speaker 9: week as to where things are at, that's going to
32:31
Speaker 9: be fascinating to see. Has there been a boost for
32:33
Speaker 9: Kamala Harris. If not, this might have proved a difficult gamble,
32:37
Speaker 9: but it seems like for now it's paid off for
32:38
Speaker 9: the Democrats.
32:40
Speaker 2: Still no endorsement from the Obamas unless I've missed it.
32:43
Speaker 2: What's that all about treaty?
32:45
Speaker 10: No.
32:45
Speaker 9: I think he has this idea and he's done it
32:48
Speaker 9: for some time that he doesn't want to weigh in
32:50
Speaker 9: before there's a final outcome. He wants to come in
32:53
Speaker 9: at the end and prove to be the kind of
32:56
Speaker 9: bringing together a unifying factor. I think at this point
32:58
Speaker 9: though now it would be fine to him to come out.
33:00
Speaker 9: There's no one else who's challenging her, is there. We
33:02
Speaker 9: saw the key top Democrats on the Hill today decide
33:06
Speaker 9: to put out their endorsement, that being Hakeem Jeffries and
33:09
Speaker 9: Chuck Schumer. So we're starting to see even big Democrats
33:11
Speaker 9: come But as you say, George Clooney's on board. He's
33:13
Speaker 9: a close ally of Barack Obama. He got back on
33:16
Speaker 9: the tent today. Interesting to see if Barack Obama's close behind.
33:19
Speaker 2: Okay, just finally, the millions of dollars have continued to
33:23
Speaker 2: roll in. In fact, she's attracting more campaign funding than
33:28
Speaker 2: what Joe Biden even did.
33:30
Speaker 9: Yeah, big money coming in in that first thirty six hours,
33:33
Speaker 9: more than one hundred million American dollars going to Krmala Harris.
33:37
Speaker 1: I did not.
33:37
Speaker 9: I just saw the Republicans are trying to put up
33:40
Speaker 9: a bit of a stink about the campaign funds that
33:42
Speaker 9: Joe Biden had already amassed, in the fact that they're
33:44
Speaker 9: just going to be lumped over to Krmala Harris. They
33:47
Speaker 9: believe that that's against campaign finance laws. It's going to
33:50
Speaker 9: be a big cash grab, according to the Republicans, So
33:52
Speaker 9: fascinating to see how that plays out. The Karmala Harris
33:55
Speaker 9: campaign is already downplaying that, saying this is all above board.
33:58
Speaker 1: She was the vice president. He's handing them money over
34:00
Speaker 1: he's endorsed her.
34:01
Speaker 9: But money is such a big thing in American politics,
34:04
Speaker 9: and it's no wonder they're already squabbling over that big
34:06
Speaker 9: pocket of money.
34:06
Speaker 2: And of course we'll hear from President Biden tomorrow, as
34:09
Speaker 2: I understand it, Yeah.
34:10
Speaker 1: We will.
34:11
Speaker 9: Tomorrow night is the big primetime address here in America,
34:13
Speaker 9: his first opportunity to speak to the American people and
34:16
Speaker 9: in his own words layout why he's not going to
34:19
Speaker 9: run again for president. We know, we saw that written
34:21
Speaker 9: statement saying it's on the it's the good thing for
34:23
Speaker 9: the country and his party. But I'm fascinating to hear
34:26
Speaker 9: how he justifies it in his own words, because we
34:28
Speaker 9: know for so long he dug in and did not
34:30
Speaker 9: believe his Democrat colleagues when they say to him that
34:33
Speaker 9: he can't win this race. That's where he's landed now,
34:36
Speaker 9: so interesting to see how he frames it. But also,
34:38
Speaker 9: this is a legacy speech for Joe Biden. He's been
34:40
Speaker 9: in politics more than fifty years and this man, now,
34:43
Speaker 9: this could be the biggest speech of his entire career,
34:46
Speaker 9: his moment to define how he wants to be viewed
34:49
Speaker 9: by the American people. There's a lot of love for
34:51
Speaker 9: him in Democrat ranks after he did a pretty hard
34:53
Speaker 9: thing in politics, which is ending your own career for
34:56
Speaker 9: the good of the party. Not many people do that.
34:58
Speaker 9: Joe Biden has done it now after a fair bigger pressure.
35:01
Speaker 9: I'd have to say about fascinating to see how that
35:03
Speaker 9: goes and if there's any missteps or misspeaks like we've
35:06
Speaker 9: been seeing in recent weeks.
35:07
Speaker 2: Trudy McIntosh, great work as usual. I'll talk again soon.
35:12
Speaker 2: Thanks Steve, Matt Biden addressed by the way. We'll be
35:17
Speaker 2: on live on Sky tomorrow morning at ten am Australian
35:20
Speaker 2: Eastern Standard time. After the break, we'll get away from
35:23
Speaker 2: politics briefly. It's just days away from the start of
35:26
Speaker 2: the Paris Olympics. Security threats are already plaguing the games.
35:30
Speaker 2: Leading international security expert from Australia who's in Paris joins
35:35
Speaker 2: me next. Welcome back to Steve Price in for Andrew Bolt.
35:41
Speaker 2: And look, we're just days away now from the Paris
35:45
Speaker 2: Olympic Games officially opening. They're going to have a spectacular
35:48
Speaker 2: ceremony scheduled for early Saturday morning Australian time. But security
35:53
Speaker 2: concerns like they are at all Olympics are the biggest threat.
35:56
Speaker 2: Already this week we've seen the alleged gang rape of
35:58
Speaker 2: a young Australian woman in Paris, and then overnight two
36:02
Speaker 2: nine radio technicians were assaulted on their way home on
36:06
Speaker 2: the way back to their hotel, was said to be
36:08
Speaker 2: a potential robbery. Our athletes have also been warned against
36:12
Speaker 2: wearing team uniforms or colors outside the village, and with
36:16
Speaker 2: the Israel Hummas war causing extremely high tension, officials are
36:21
Speaker 2: on high alert just in case of a potential terrorist attack.
36:24
Speaker 2: Joining me now a man who knows all this all
36:27
Speaker 2: too well, Neil Fergus, leading international security expert and CEO
36:32
Speaker 2: of Intelligent Risks. Neil, you've been a security consultant, I
36:36
Speaker 2: think now for what eleven Summer and Winter Olympic Games,
36:40
Speaker 2: including Paris. You're in Paris? How concerned are the authorities? Mate?
36:44
Speaker 2: Good to see you again, would.
36:46
Speaker 10: You see Steve, the authorities are taking this incredibly seriously,
36:51
Speaker 10: as you'd expect. The amount of personnel that are deployed
36:55
Speaker 10: on the streets is unprecedented, and given the ambitious planned
37:00
Speaker 10: for the opening ceremony that you referred to, Steve, we've
37:04
Speaker 10: got over sixty thousand security personnel being deployed for the
37:07
Speaker 10: opening ceremony, forty five thousand police, several thousand military, and
37:12
Speaker 10: eight to ten thousand contracted security. Total over sixty thousand,
37:16
Speaker 10: which at some major even opening ceremonies, well that would
37:20
Speaker 10: be more than how many spectators are in there. So
37:23
Speaker 10: they are not being sanguine or complacent at all that
37:27
Speaker 10: the game is on.
37:30
Speaker 2: Since the biggest security operation you've seen, Neil.
37:33
Speaker 10: Yes, I'd see much bigger than Athens, because in the
37:37
Speaker 10: security environment there pre Games was awful and absolutely required
37:44
Speaker 10: a major international effort.
37:46
Speaker 2: Here there is a major international effort.
37:48
Speaker 10: But the French course are extremely experienced, killed and experience,
37:52
Speaker 10: so they brought everybody in that they need. They've canceled
37:57
Speaker 10: all the leaves, they've canceled all the training program, and
38:01
Speaker 10: they have some support from twenty other police forces, in fact,
38:04
Speaker 10: over twenty police forces within Europe. We also have an
38:09
Speaker 10: enormous plain clothed presence out on the streets in central Paris.
38:14
Speaker 10: And to your intro against Steve major concerns about protests. Yeah,
38:20
Speaker 10: of course, because it's the biggest event on the planet.
38:24
Speaker 10: Every issue motivated group has thought about or is going
38:28
Speaker 10: to try to exploit it for publicity for their cause,
38:32
Speaker 10: and that has a major problem. But not so much
38:34
Speaker 10: for security, but for logistics and transport around the city,
38:38
Speaker 10: which is already somewhat tested transport wise.
38:44
Speaker 2: You know this all too well. I had a little
38:46
Speaker 2: bit of a look back on the history of terror
38:49
Speaker 2: attacks in France, and you know you don't have to
38:51
Speaker 2: go back far twenty fifteen, Charlie hebdo. You had the
38:55
Speaker 2: November twenty fifteen attack inside batter Clan. I was on
38:59
Speaker 2: radio the day that happened. I think I spoke to you.
39:01
Speaker 2: One hundred and thirty one dead there down in Nis.
39:05
Speaker 2: You had the twenty sixteen cargo truck used as a
39:08
Speaker 2: weapon to drive into crowds. That was on Bastiel Day,
39:11
Speaker 2: eighty six dead. I go on and on and on,
39:13
Speaker 2: but as you say, the French are aware of how
39:18
Speaker 2: they need to handle these sorts of potential threats, aren't they?
39:24
Speaker 10: And there have been I'll call them terrorist conspiracies, but
39:27
Speaker 10: need some qualification. There have been terrorist conspiracies thwarted by
39:32
Speaker 10: French authorities this year. A couple of them, just to
39:35
Speaker 10: keep them in perspective, were youths who were circulating anti
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Speaker 10: Semitic or racially ulification messages on social media and urging
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Speaker 10: some degree of violence. But it goes all the way
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Speaker 10: from that level to an extreme level where an individual
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Speaker 10: blew himself up in a hotel room, might be a
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Speaker 10: shelter Gauld Airport making an improvised explosive device while he
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Speaker 10: was severely burnt. He is alive, He's in the hands
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Speaker 10: of police authorities, and I understand that he is starting
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Speaker 10: to cooperate about other people who were working I say,
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Speaker 10: working with him, but supporting him in his agenda.
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Speaker 2: We don't want to alarm people too much. I mean,
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Speaker 2: plenty of Australians are headed to Paris, They're already there.
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Speaker 2: My own eldest daughter is going to be in Paris
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Speaker 2: from the weekend on. What advice would you give me
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Speaker 2: to give them a daughter about how to keep yourself
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Speaker 2: safe when you get to their Olympic Games. What would
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Speaker 2: would you tell them not to do well?
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Speaker 10: Really good question, Steve, and we're saying he's everywhere and
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Speaker 10: this is going to be a fantastic games. I'm pretty
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Speaker 10: confident they should take some comfort in the incredibly over
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Speaker 10: police presence, including military and specialists. Stay in the public spaces.
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Speaker 10: The thing that's most likely, unfortunately, to impact Ozzie's visiting
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Speaker 10: these games is to petty crime. Just be aware of
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Speaker 10: the surroundings. It's absolutely important. And on the metro be
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Speaker 10: particularly careful. That's where the police are constantly saying there
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Speaker 10: are pickpocket games. They're not all French either, I mean
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Speaker 10: they've come from other parts of Europe because they know
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Speaker 10: this is the place to be in Europe. Over the
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Speaker 10: summer more, there's over a million visitors coming in. It's
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Speaker 10: extraordinary and it should be great.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. My own advice to myself for is, don't spend
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Speaker 2: much time hanging around train stations or airports. Get in
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Speaker 2: and out of those places quickly. Just finally, I know.
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Speaker 10: Virus, Yes, Eddie Maguire sa at the other day, don't
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Speaker 10: forget nothing good ever happened after one o'clock in the morning.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's a very good point too. Just briefly on
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Speaker 2: the uniforms. The athletes have been tied not to wear
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Speaker 2: their colors. I guess that said.
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Speaker 10: I think it's just the same with people who got
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Speaker 10: accreditation around their neck without the team uniforms. You just
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Speaker 10: put a bit of a marker on yourself using the
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Speaker 10: public transport, as you have to do with any of
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Speaker 10: these pickpocket gangs. It just makes good sense.
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Speaker 2: Great pleasure to catch up, Thank you very much, Neil Fergus.
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Speaker 2: Always a pleasure to thank you. And after the break,
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Speaker 2: the left wing media, i'm told in the US has
42:32
Speaker 2: gone crazy over Kamala Harris. Wait till you see the
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Speaker 2: fawning from them. We will talk to Sophie Ellsworth on
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Speaker 2: the desk straight after this. Welcome back to Steve Price
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Speaker 2: in for Andrew Bolt. If you're wondering. Andrew will be
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Speaker 2: back with you tomorrow night, joining me now in the
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Speaker 2: studio as The Australian's media writer Sophie Ellsworth. Now, Sophie,
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Speaker 2: I was talking about the Olympic Games before to Neil
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Speaker 2: Fergus about security. One bug who might need some security
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Speaker 2: is the boss of Channel nine. Like Sneezeby, he's been
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Speaker 2: copying flat for appearing to ignore the concerns of his staff.
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Speaker 2: I think there's some industrial action brewing, and the union
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Speaker 2: has actually put this statement out saying, rather than joining
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Speaker 2: yourself carrying the Olympic torch in France, you should be
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Speaker 2: in Australia to sort out a new EBA for your
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Speaker 2: journalists the company's publishing division. What's happened with that?
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Speaker 11: So he's in a world of pain. Steve Mike sneeze
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Speaker 11: By the Nine CEO is over in Paris. Nine have
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Speaker 11: the broadcasting rights in Australia and he somehow thought it
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Speaker 11: would be a great idea to run with the Olympic torch,
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Speaker 11: so we got photos of him in the Australian running
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Speaker 11: with the torch. Meanwhile, back home he has just made
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Speaker 11: two hundred staff redundant across the business.
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Speaker 2: Not a good look.
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Speaker 6: It's not a good look. It's a tone deaf message
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Speaker 6: to staff.
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Speaker 11: And they're now at loggerheads with the union, the union
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Speaker 11: and management over their EBA agreement which they're trying to negotiate,
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Speaker 11: and just tonight they came back and offered them a
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Speaker 11: ten and a half percent pay rise over the course
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Speaker 11: of three years, broken up into categories.
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Speaker 6: They wanted twenty percent pay rise.
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Speaker 2: Steve, Well, that's unrealistic. I mean the union, the industrial
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Speaker 2: action though is still pending.
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Speaker 6: Or it's still pending.
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Speaker 11: And at Nine they have at their publishing division, they
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Speaker 11: have a very heavy unionized workforce who are saying they
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Speaker 11: will be striking from Friday. But there is still time
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Speaker 11: between now and then to resolve this, and I do
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Speaker 11: believe they will.
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Speaker 2: You've got to really read the room, don't you. I
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Speaker 2: mean it's not a great look. I mean, look, Nine's
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Speaker 2: got two hundred i think odd staff in Paris for
44:45
Speaker 2: the coverage of the games, both on in newspapers, radio
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Speaker 2: and television, so that's a huge commitment. So it's probably
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Speaker 2: not unrealistic to think the CEO might be there to
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Speaker 2: help out with the coverage. But running around the streets
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Speaker 2: of Paris with the Olympic torch is probably not the
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Speaker 2: best look. I actually ran with the Commonwealth Games torch
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Speaker 2: when it was on Digit Australia through a little town
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Speaker 2: in northern New South Wales.
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Speaker 6: Plastic.
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Speaker 2: No, it wasn't because all of the folks in that
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Speaker 2: town who had no idea who I was, and they
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Speaker 2: were outside the pub screaming who are you? I don't
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Speaker 2: know you, I want to know why I was running
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Speaker 2: through their town. Now the ABC viewer has been invited
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Speaker 2: to share feedback on media bias via the public broadcasters, online,
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Speaker 2: your space community, whatever that might be. Viewers are being
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Speaker 2: quizzed on whether they believe the ABC's news program Sophie
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Speaker 2: to be accurate and impartial and a trusted source of information,
45:45
Speaker 2: and to rate the trustworthiness of their competitors. I presume
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Speaker 2: they're doing this just so they can say we're still
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Speaker 2: the most trusted brand in news.
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Speaker 11: Well, what they do, Steve, it's this community of people
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Speaker 11: who watch and breathe and consume the ABC, and they
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Speaker 11: question them about the ABC. Now, my view on this is,
46:04
Speaker 11: if you are going to question people about the ABC,
46:07
Speaker 11: don't question people who watch the ABC. Question the broader
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Speaker 11: community because a lot of them don't watch the ABC
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Speaker 11: and there are reasons for that. So it's his narrow
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Speaker 11: minded survey. But they're asking them things like what are
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Speaker 11: the key shows they watch? How do they consume their news?
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Speaker 11: We know they've been in trouble in terms of catering
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Speaker 11: to mainstream Australians, so somehow they think the ABC surveying
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Speaker 11: the ABC is going to give them results that they
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Speaker 11: need to know.
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Speaker 2: Are they asking them whether they like my new spot
46:38
Speaker 2: on refe this morning read.
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Speaker 11: They haven't gone down in that much detail, and I
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Speaker 11: don't know that they'd like a Sky News host on ABC,
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Speaker 11: but I think it's great.
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Speaker 2: Steve left wing media. I mentioned this in the US,
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Speaker 2: they've gone absolutely mad for Kamala Harris. Take a look
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Speaker 2: at some of the reaction from the likes of ms
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Speaker 2: NBC and CNN.
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Speaker 8: I'm jumping out of my seat over here watching the
47:03
Speaker 8: people have been thirsting for them.
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Speaker 2: It was a twinkle in her eye. I got chills
47:07
Speaker 2: when she said, Donald Trump, I know your tape. I
47:10
Speaker 2: was blown away. I was like, I kind of fell
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Speaker 2: in love with them. Well, I jumped off Joe quickly.
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Speaker 2: They've now gone all in on Kamala Harris.
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Speaker 11: Well, they have Steve, and you're remembering, you have the
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Speaker 11: media over in America that are largely left leaning, So
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Speaker 11: this large largely and so Steve, this is completely They're
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Speaker 11: happy about this.
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Speaker 6: They're happy that she's in.
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Speaker 11: They are taking a team here, they're supporting her. They
47:38
Speaker 11: detest Donald Trump, so this is a good thing for them.
47:41
Speaker 11: But I really think they're doing them inselves a disservice
47:44
Speaker 11: when they just go so far one way and just
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Speaker 11: scold Donald Trump.
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Speaker 6: I don't think it does.
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Speaker 2: She's got a great advantage over him for that very reason.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, they have that.
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Speaker 11: The Democrats have the media support, which is very important
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Speaker 11: to them.
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Speaker 6: They rely on that and it has I believe helped them.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's going to be interesting to see what sort
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Speaker 2: of reaction we get from Joe Biden on that address
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Speaker 2: to the nation tomorrow. So for yours with thank you
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Speaker 2: very much for that. So for Ellsworth back with Andrew
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Speaker 2: next week. I'll be back tomorrow night, but I'll be
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Speaker 2: standing in not for Andrew Bolt, but I'll be here
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Speaker 2: for Peter Kredlin, who'll be away for one night. We
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Speaker 2: will have that Joe Biden's speech live on Sky tomorrow
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Speaker 2: from ten am. Make sure you tune in to watch
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Speaker 2: that coming up next straight after me at the top
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Speaker 2: of the hour. Shari Markson's back. What a great thing
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Speaker 2: it was if she was back last night.