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Ep. 3: How Does the Defense Take the Next Step? | Jags A.M. Podcast · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Week two of training camp starts today. You guys, Brian John,
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: what stood out to you in week one?
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  Speaker 2: Good?
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  Speaker 3: No you go? I'd say Calvin Riders overall, you couldn't
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  Speaker 3: ignore him and looks like he's gonna make this team
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  Speaker 3: significantly more explosive.
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  Speaker 4: The receivers group as a total group, right, but in
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  Speaker 4: particularly the big three Ridley Kirk and Jay.
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  Speaker 5: Jones look like they're going to be sensational.
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: Welcome man, It's Monday, July thirty. First jags Am presented
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  Speaker 1: by Carshield and here's a little look at practice or
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  Speaker 1: getting their stretch on. It's week two of training camp.
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  Speaker 1: Giving you the live look right now and else back
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  Speaker 1: you guys.
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  Speaker 6: Steel's good?
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  Speaker 5: So is that great music?
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  Speaker 1: Did you guys stretch before jag zam this morning?
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  Speaker 6: Are you ready.
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  Speaker 3: Stretch every morning? Stretching is a big part of my life.
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  Speaker 5: The older you get, the more mobility works.
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  Speaker 6: Very true. It's sad, but very very true. You guys
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  Speaker 6: get your stretches in, stay young.
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  Speaker 1: We had a full week last week. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: I was just happy to be out there to see
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  Speaker 1: I think, to see the guys back out there now,
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna get the pads back on this week, so
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  Speaker 1: things will get a little bit more real. What do
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  Speaker 1: you kind of look for once the pads get back
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  Speaker 1: on to you kind of shift your focus to defense, John,
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  Speaker 1: is that what you kind of look at?
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  Speaker 3: Well, not so much defense, but I shift my focus
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  Speaker 3: to the one on one pass rush durils. It's the
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  Speaker 3: I think for fans who come out, that may be
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  Speaker 3: their favorite part of camp. It's the best time to
• 1:45
  Speaker 3: see offensive lineman work against defensive lineman. If Tony Biselli
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  Speaker 3: were here, he starts saying, WHOAOA. It's really geared toward
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  Speaker 3: the defense because it is geared to make the defensive
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  Speaker 3: lineman look good. But if offensive linemen are playing well
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  Speaker 3: during it, you can tell something. It's that's what you
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  Speaker 3: look for the second week camp. To me, realistically, if
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  Speaker 3: they're working goal line, if they're working run drills, you
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  Speaker 3: see a little bit Brian bit so controlled. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: mean and smartly. You have to do that. You're not
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  Speaker 3: getting a feel for where there a guy is gonna
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  Speaker 3: come up and make a huge hit on fourth and one.
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  Speaker 3: Uh So, one on one pass rushes what I look for.
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  Speaker 4: You know, this is where I become the old man
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  Speaker 4: in the room and even though I'm not the oldest.
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  Speaker 4: You remember you weren't here yet, you had not come
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  Speaker 4: back yet, John from Indy. There was a moment where
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  Speaker 4: they did Oklahoma here, right, and you would never do
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  Speaker 4: that anymore, but oh four oh five, oh six, And
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  Speaker 4: it was a great scene. I mean, the fans showed
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  Speaker 4: up and they promoted the whole nine yards and it
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  Speaker 4: was just that it's at the tone, it's at the
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  Speaker 4: tempo right. We're gonna be a physical football team. That's
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  Speaker 4: what I'm looking for, you know, even though it's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be very controlled. I want to see the physicality of
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  Speaker 4: the guys on the line, of the guys like Devin
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  Speaker 4: Lloyd and Trayvon Walker that we're gonna talk about. I
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  Speaker 4: want to see that tough minded football mentality that comes
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  Speaker 4: only from Pats.
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  Speaker 1: Treyvon is definitely gonna be a point of focus for everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Mike Caldwell spoke to us last week and he said,
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  Speaker 1: already he's seeing more confidence from Trayvon when he's out
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  Speaker 1: on the field.
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  Speaker 7: You can see the confidence in him the way he
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  Speaker 7: moves around the field, the way he's more vocal making checks,
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  Speaker 7: and he just understands now that I'm the guy. I'm
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  Speaker 7: the number one pick, but I'm also Trayvon. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 7: be Trayvon on the field, and my Trayvon is good
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  Speaker 7: enough for the Jacks because we trust in his ability
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  Speaker 7: and it's going to show no pay dividends for us.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting, interesting way of saying it,
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  Speaker 1: because he's more confident, but he's himself, which is exactly
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  Speaker 1: what you want him to be, and you want him
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  Speaker 1: to feel comfortable enough to be himself.
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  Speaker 6: Just the best version of that.
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  Speaker 1: Right, What are you hoping or looking for in that
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  Speaker 1: first week, Brian, to kind of see out of him
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  Speaker 1: that maybe he didn't see last year.
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  Speaker 4: I'd love to see how they're going to use him,
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  Speaker 4: because there's been talk about him having his hand on
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  Speaker 4: the ground more this year because he excelled in third
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  Speaker 4: down situations last year. And I think we're going to
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  Speaker 4: see some and there's a process to integrate Devin Lloyd
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  Speaker 4: and where he fits maybe on the strong side. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think we're seeen an that until the regular season comes.
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  Speaker 5: I like what I see the.
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  Speaker 4: Same thing I saw last year, big, long, powerful, explosive athletic.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's going to be a great player, And
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  Speaker 4: I know people are still questioning that, but I can't help.
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  Speaker 4: But having seen the show that you put together and
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  Speaker 4: knowing the young man like I got to know him
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  Speaker 4: last year, I don't think there's any doubt he's going
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  Speaker 4: to be a terrific player.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you want to see some suddenness and
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  Speaker 3: some signs that he's more move for the right word,
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  Speaker 3: not in the moment, but just more comfortable in the
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  Speaker 3: defense and moving quicker. So I don't know that you
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  Speaker 3: necessarily see it in practice. I like to see one
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  Speaker 3: or two plays where you go, Okay, Wow, there it is.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that Trayvon is ever going to be
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  Speaker 3: a fifteen sack guy. I am as sure as I
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  Speaker 3: can be that he's going to be a very very
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  Speaker 3: good player and be able to do special things. I
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  Speaker 3: just don't know if the stats are going to add up,
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  Speaker 3: you know, So am I looking for one on one
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  Speaker 3: pass rush out of him. I'd love to see him
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  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, why this is a great sack guy.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if he's going to stand out in
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  Speaker 3: that sort of drill, but I think he will have
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  Speaker 3: moments this week where you say, Okay, he's getting it there.
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  Speaker 3: It is, there's the quicker step, sort of like cop
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  Speaker 3: talk about Devin Lloyd last week, I think we'll see
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  Speaker 3: some of those same recognition improvement out of Trayvon.
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  Speaker 5: We talked about it last week.
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  Speaker 4: He made those two plays, one in each of the
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  Speaker 4: Titans games, that swung the game and created the division
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  Speaker 4: title and the playoffs. I'm going to keep a running
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  Speaker 4: title tally of plays that he makes this year that
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  Speaker 4: don't show up in the stats column, that aren't sacks,
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  Speaker 4: that changed the direction of the game, and at the
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  Speaker 4: end of the year, we'll decide, you know, was he
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  Speaker 4: impactful or not based on that nut sacks.
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: Trayvon's play will have a big impact on how this
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  Speaker 1: defensive defense does as a whole, even though he's just
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  Speaker 1: a second year player. We talked to Rashaon Jenkins, one
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  Speaker 1: of the veterans on this team. He's expecting very good
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  Speaker 1: things from the d this year.
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  Speaker 8: Man, that we're top five defense in the league and
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  Speaker 8: that's and that's just real. Uh, you know, I feel
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  Speaker 8: like we put some good things on film last year,
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  Speaker 8: but this year is just being is about being more consistent.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 8: We had some you know, we had some highs we
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  Speaker 8: had some lows, but I don't want to fall two
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  Speaker 8: and seven like we did last year. Just come out
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  Speaker 8: here and not play behind the eight ball. Let's just
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  Speaker 8: let's get things going early and have people have to
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  Speaker 8: catch up to us.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Rashaan Ekzude's confidence so no surprise there that he
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  Speaker 1: thinks they're going to be a top five defense.
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  Speaker 6: John, you were there for this conversation.
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  Speaker 1: What does the team what is the team going to
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  Speaker 1: be able to do if they do play with leads,
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  Speaker 1: you know, as he mentioned, and they're not playing behind
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  Speaker 1: the eight ball. What is this defense able to do
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  Speaker 1: when they have that kind of situation in a game.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it should help the pass rushers dramatically because you're
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  Speaker 3: it's very hard to be a great sack guy if
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  Speaker 3: the other team is always in third and two and
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  Speaker 3: if they are always ten points ahead, because then they
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  Speaker 3: don't have to hold sacks come when quarterbacks have to
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  Speaker 3: hold the ball on third and eight or they have
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  Speaker 3: to they have to make plays because they're desperate. So
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  Speaker 3: it should help the pass rush immeasurably. That to me,
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  Speaker 3: I think is going to be the biggest factor in
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  Speaker 3: making this a better pass rush. I think Josh Allen
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  Speaker 3: and Trayvon Walker are very capable. If they get in situations,
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  Speaker 3: They're both capable of being pressure sack guy. I mean
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  Speaker 3: not pressure the quarterback. Guys might put a sack number
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  Speaker 3: on it, but I think that's where it'll help. I
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  Speaker 3: think the key for this defense, Brian is still though
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  Speaker 3: with this group. I'm not as concerned if they're a
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  Speaker 3: top five defense, but I think they have to remain
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  Speaker 3: a top five turnover creating defense, which they were last year.
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  Speaker 4: I saw a shirt that said think takeaways yeah on
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  Speaker 4: somebody the other day, and that's the key. And I
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  Speaker 4: want to add a name to the pass rush and
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  Speaker 4: it's not Kaylevon Chason. It's Devin Lloyd. He had eight
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  Speaker 4: sacks in his last year at Utah and was the
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  Speaker 4: college Defensive Player of the year. He's a very talented
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  Speaker 4: pass rusher and you can use that strong side linebacker
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  Speaker 4: or whatever they call the position that he eventually plays
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  Speaker 4: and use him in the pass rush as well, so
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  Speaker 4: it gives them the added dimension. I think the key
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  Speaker 4: to this defense this year is the development of those
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  Speaker 4: second year players, those two in particular and Chad Muma
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  Speaker 4: throw him in there because he's a big rangy guy
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  Speaker 4: who can stuff the run and play in coverage as well.
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  Speaker 4: There is a there's a lot of reason for optimism
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  Speaker 4: with the defense.
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  Speaker 5: Top five.
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  Speaker 4: It's like sack numbers are rushing yards. Who cares as
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  Speaker 4: long as you're effective and get the job done.
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  Speaker 3: Conceptually, for this defense and for this franchise, the storyline
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  Speaker 3: that Brian just mentioned, I think is key to the
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  Speaker 3: four or five year arc of this franchise. If you will,
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  Speaker 3: when you draft two front seven players in the first round,
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  Speaker 3: one of the number one overall and then trade up
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  Speaker 3: for the other guy in year two, they are supposed
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  Speaker 3: to be a reason why you're a really good team. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: that's what is on those guys this year.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk a little more about that coming up, because
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  Speaker 1: obviously a ton of eyes are gonna be on the
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  Speaker 1: defense this coming year. Would you want to give a
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  Speaker 1: little love to the offense? And John you were a
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  Speaker 1: predictor of this as well as Evan Ingram that Garrett
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  Speaker 1: Print's had a great week last week and three touchdown catches.
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  Speaker 6: He's showing out.
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  Speaker 1: Evan Ingram went to bat and said, he's really showed
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  Speaker 1: off so far and he feels like he's a perfect
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  Speaker 1: fit for Doug Peterson's offense.
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  Speaker 9: He's a really talented player. He's a very fluid athlete,
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  Speaker 9: and you know, he's a tight end that is is
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  Speaker 9: you know, made for Doug's offense. So just a growth
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  Speaker 9: I've seen in him, even just him now he's he's
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  Speaker 9: he's coaching up guys in the meeting room, you know,
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  Speaker 9: better than I think I could. So I'm really proud
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  Speaker 9: of the steps he's taken. And he's still got a
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  Speaker 9: lot of work to do, but the opportunity is as
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  Speaker 9: fingertips and I think though, I'm very, very excited about
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  Speaker 9: his future, his potential, you know, playing with him and
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  Speaker 9: you know him being able to learn from me, and
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  Speaker 9: honestly I can probably learn from some things from him too.
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  Speaker 1: We talk a lot about the wide receivers. The tight
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  Speaker 1: end room is pretty talented as well. Brian, is this
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  Speaker 1: going to be a difficult decision when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: cut time?
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  Speaker 10: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: No, they're talented. I don't know that they're that deep, right,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think Prince is a guy who, based
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  Speaker 4: on last week, absolutely makes it.
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  Speaker 5: You know a newsflash.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes when we talk on these shows, words come out
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  Speaker 4: of our mouths and we think, oh, maybe I shouldn't
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  Speaker 4: have said that. So last week we were talking about
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  Speaker 4: Prince and I said, I think he's a terrific prospect.
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  Speaker 4: And then as I thought about it, I thought, look, terrific,
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  Speaker 4: that's probably too strong. And yet he had a terrific
• 10:38
  Speaker 4: week last week. I mean, he made a couple of plays,
• 10:40
  Speaker 4: and I thought, all right, I'll live with that. I
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  Speaker 4: do think he's one of those guys that will rise
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  Speaker 4: through this undrafted rookie you know, time on the practice squad.
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  Speaker 4: He's got everything you want. He is tall, he's at
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  Speaker 4: the height, he's long. He appears to have that innate
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  Speaker 4: sense that you want from those those move tight ends
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  Speaker 4: of where to get open. I don't think it'll be
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  Speaker 4: a tough cut. I think that there's plenty of talent
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  Speaker 4: in that room.
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  Speaker 1: Though.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you'll keep four tight ends, and I
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  Speaker 3: think is Prince, Strange, Ferrell and Ingram, so uh, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think it'll be a very hard decision. Uh. In
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  Speaker 3: terms of fifty three, Prince is interesting. There's a limit
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  Speaker 3: to what you can tell in unpadded work, and even
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  Speaker 3: a limit sometimes what you can tell in practice. But
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  Speaker 3: there are some positions that you can tell a lot
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  Speaker 3: and some plays you can tell a lot. Prince was
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  Speaker 3: outstanding last week in short area, the red zone, getting open,
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  Speaker 3: catching balls that on plays that felt real if you will,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and they felt like they could happen in games.
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  Speaker 3: And he had three touchdowns on plays like that, and
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: they were all from Trevor Lawrence, which says something by
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  Speaker 3: the way, yeah, and so the two can he do
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  Speaker 3: that five times this year?
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  Speaker 4: If he does, you're static. One more thought on him.
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  Speaker 4: He plays bigger than he is. You could just see
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  Speaker 4: the way and again they're not pads, but the way
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  Speaker 4: he used his height and his length as leverage against
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  Speaker 4: smaller defensive backs and then around linebackers to reach and
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  Speaker 4: make plays.
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  Speaker 5: He plays bigger than he is.
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  Speaker 3: I like that. Heated stuff last week that you could
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  Speaker 3: see him doing in games, and that's what you want.
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  Speaker 6: Mordacum.
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  Speaker 1: We'll keep an eye on that, of course, and coming
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  Speaker 1: up we're going to talk a little bit more about
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  Speaker 1: that defense, which players we think are under the most
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about this defense. They're putting the pads on
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  Speaker 1: this week, so hopefully we'll see a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: from them. Everybody's talking about the defense because we compliment
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: the offense so much. Who are some specific names that
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: we think will be under pressure this season. We've talked
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: about it as a whole, but who's in particular players
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: that you're looking at. They need to have a big
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: training camp and a big start to the year.
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: Well, I'll go with Devin Lloyd and I have extolled
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: the virtues of his talent here since we started the
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: show back up. And it's not because there's pressure from
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: the outside right, most of that pressure is on forty four,
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: but inside the building there is a strong sense of expectation.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: They drafted him at the bottom of the first round,
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: they moved back up into the first round to take
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: him because he was a sack, strip, fumble, recover, touchdown, interception,
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: playmaking linebacker. And last year he got off to a
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: great start, was the Rookie of the Month, defensive Rookie
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: of the Month in September, and then it fell off.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: Teams figured out what he knew, what he didn't and
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: how to really challenge him, and it took him all
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: season to find a groove. The expectation and the pressure
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: is that he gets off to a fast start and
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: maintains it throughout the course of the season. We talked
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: about some tweaks to the defense that might put him
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: in more of a playmaking role. Guaranteed they've done that,
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: and so he's going to have to step up and
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: do that because John alluded to it when we were
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: in the last segment. These are the two guys that
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: will define your defense for the next era, for the
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: next five, six, seven years.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they should, especially a big time players. I think
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Devin's going to be fine because from what everything that
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: ailed him last year was stuff that should improve from experience.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: When he was around the ball, he made the play.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: He has tremendous ability once he is in position, the
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: ball comes to his hands. So he had problems with
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: some recognition, Payen, etc. So there's no reason to think
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: that that won't improve because that, by definition, is what
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: improves with experience. I think he's gonna be fine. I'm
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: gonna go with Josh Allen, and it's hard because him
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: and Trayvon are so interchangeable in terms of the pressure
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: and the expectations. They are the guys that you know,
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: top ten draft picks supposed to be elite, supposed to
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: be what you've built around. When you have drafted top
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: ten players at outside the linebacker, you expect to be
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: a disruptive, dominant defense. So that's where the pressure is.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Go with Josh a little bit because I think on himself.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: You know, I've always thought maybe one of the things
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: that I hold him back. Whatever he wants it so bad, Brian,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: He's he talks about it once it thinks about it,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: is willing to talk about with the media. I think
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: he's a better player than like people give him.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: Credit for what didn't he lead the league last year
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: in effectiveness pass rushes.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: He just didn't finish.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: That number that everybody wants. It's his sacks is important
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: in there, but everything else. I've always said he's the
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: guy when you see the trainers coming out, He's the
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: one guy on defense that I hope it's not for
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: the jack sake because I think he's the most irreplaceable player.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Tyson Campbell probably fits that too. But there's pressure on him.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: He's a pass rusher, he's a contract year, and he's
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: going to be judged on sack numbers, fairly or unfairly.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: He's a pass rusher, he's a good one. He's going
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: to get paid, whether it's here or whether it's somewhere
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: in the league. He's going to get a check.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: He knows this.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: I don't think he feels the pressure as much except John.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: He wanted to be here. Yeah, this is his home.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: He fits here.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: He and his family have done an amazing job at
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: getting integrated into this community and people love him, and
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: he would like it to be here with this team
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: and this quarterback and this coach, this facility. He wants
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: it to be here in Northeast Florida. So that's where
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: the pressure comes from.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: And I think what's interesting is we've all covered guy
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: even at that position, who they get drafted the top
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: ten and they are busts, Like, Okay, they can't do
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: it with Josh. You don't watch a guy and think
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: this guy can't play. He can clearly play and clearly
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: and it's just that it's almost like that half second.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: The difference between being a huge sack guy and not
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: is is what's frustrating him that he's not quite where
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: he wants to be. But he Yeah, this time next
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: year he's going to be incredibly wealthy somewhere.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Jaguarts fans will remember the name Derek Harvey and traded
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: up into the first into the top ten of the
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: first round to take him out of Florida. He couldn't
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: get on the field, and he couldn't get on the field,
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: and he left after two seasons, complete and total bust.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: One hundred and eighty degrees. Opposite of where Josh Allen is.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Alan has been a productive player with the chance to
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: really become a star.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: We hope he does.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna bring up a name we've talked about before,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: of course, Trayvon. I think for me, it's not lessarily
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: the pressure that you know, he has to have a
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: certain amount of sack or anything like that. I think
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: it's just with the second year some of his success
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: we might see in other players. It might be opening
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: it up so Josh gets sex, you know that just
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: being able to be a threat and being confident and
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: staying on the field not getting hurt. I think that's
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: going to be more of the pressure he puts on himself.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Obviously tons of pressure comes with that number one pick,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: but I think a lot for him is just being
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: able to be comfortable and be.
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: His best version of that this year.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: And I think by him being the best version of himself,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: it's going to open things up for everybody else and
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: it's going to be a team success. If he's a success,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: it will be a team success, is how I'm viewing it.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's individual numbers. I mean, we've
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: talked about this a little bit, but for me, it's
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: more is the defense as a whole going to be
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: successful this year?
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: You know, I think Trayvon may always be is that
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: guy who when you talk to coaches on the other
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: team's offense, they're always going, man, we had to spend
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: all week figuring out how to defend this guy. And
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know what that's going to mean. In terms
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: of numbers, but people who watch it and people who
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: have to plan for it, with his size, with what
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: he does, with his effort level, I think he's always
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: going to be a big concern for the opposing offense.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Whether or not fans grasp it because the number one
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: thing and all the expectations. Maybe not, but I think
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: the guy is going to be a very productive player
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: no matter what the numbers.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: So I'll go back to former Vikings and Seahawks general
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: manager Randy Mueller's comments in the story he wrote in
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: The Athletic on the Athletic website, and that is, if
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: you have a couple of extra bucks, throw it down
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: on Trayvon Walker as the defensive player of the year.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: He's that talented. There's some pressure that comes with that.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: He's ridiculously talented. Everyone tells him that he is, so
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: he's going to have to figure out a way to
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: actualize that talent this year. I hope the adjustments to
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: the defense help him there. I think him the person
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: will help get him over the top two.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Certainly a good person, we know that much for sure.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: All Right, coming up, we're going to go around the
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: league a little bit, see what's going on elsewhere in
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: the NFL.
• 21:58
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  Speaker 1: time of the year. Trevor Lawrence wearing that red jersey,
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  Speaker 5: Get yourself cut.
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  Speaker 3: I need one of those. I need something to wear
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  Speaker 3: where I know people can't hurt me.
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  Speaker 6: Do you want to bubble you too?
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: I'd like to be unhurt.
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: We're gonna go around the league a little bit.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: We saw some injuries last week, which you never want
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: to see, especially early on in training camp. Some familiar faces, well,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: one familiar face, Jalen Ramsey went down with a knee injury.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: He had to undergo surgery. Joe Burrow had a calf
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: strain injury that they've been dealing with. We did, Brian.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: You did speak to coach yesterday and Doug Peterson talked
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: about how much he thinks about that sort of thing
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: this time.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: Well, you can't let it take your practice time and
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: make it invaluable.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: You've got to get the most out of it, he said.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: You've just got to trust that you're playing both, you know,
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: for practice and with Fergie and the medical training staff
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: and the doctors. Just got to trust that everything is
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: as it's supposed to be. It's football. These things happened,
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: but you know, when you start seeing guys like Joe
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: Burrow go down, you scratch your head and you know
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: you don't let this happen to us.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: John, I'll consult you only because I know you're around
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: in the olden days. Do you feel it's been better
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: since they don't do they don't do two a days anymore,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: is it? Have you seen less of it?
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so. I mean over time they have
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: reduced contact to the point where it had to have
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: helped intelligently. So because in the salary cap era, you
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: can't risk getting starters hurt, so coaches have to play
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: a percentage they have. You know, I think Doug last
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: year had one practice that was just you know, lights out,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: heavy hitting. I was going back and reading some of
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: the coverage from last year and there was one day
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: where I think it was Cisco blasted ETN and you know,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: it was a big story afterward. Yeah, we like it.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: You can't have too many of those, No, And so
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: they The big thing is just the reduction of preseason
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: playing time. I think most NFL people would tell you
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: that it overall has probably not helped or hurt tackling
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: early in the season, But then once you get into
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: about week three or week four, there's not that much difference.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: But the sacrifice of tackling early for these teams is
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: worth it. Not to have players hurtain precess so much
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: you can do.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: At twenty fifteen, Derek not Derek Dante Fowler, third pick
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: in the draft, rookie mini camp, doesn't even get touched
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: and tears his ACL as he pushes off on a
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: pass rush. First weekend. He's here in May. Those things
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: are going to happen to some point. It's just a
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: reminder that football is a dangerous game and if you
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: stay healthy, which this team did last year, you're doing
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: something right and you're getting lucky to.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: From a coach, you have to play the long game
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: every training camp. I'm gonna have eighteen practices. I'm gonna
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: do it this way at of two or three years.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: One of those years, somebody's going to go down in
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: that because it's physical people moving at a fast pace.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: But you can't change your approach beyond what I really
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: they've done to worry about that.
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: Guy can't be scared.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: But you get to do your best to protect everybody,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: and I think everybody's on the same page with regards
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: to that.
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: Elsewhere around the.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: League, we've got the finalists for the Football Hall of
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Fame and obviously Tony Piselli getting in recently. That was
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: very exciting. And now Tom Coughlin is up. He's one
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: of the twelve finalists. Brian, I know you were talking
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: to me about this last week. What does this mean
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: to the family and do we think this is the
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: year or is this the first of a couple of years.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: Well, obviously it means a lot to the family, especially
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: with you know, losing Judy last year and what this
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: would really be a great lift for the Coaughlin family.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: And I think they, like most of us who know Tom,
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: believe that it's not a matter of if, it's just when.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: Tom Coauughlin is a Hall of Fame coach, one of
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: the most successful. He's still the most successful coach in
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: expansion history, right and then of course the two championships
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: that he won without being the best team in the
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: league at the end of the season, and those are
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: wildcard teams that work their way press one. Yeah, so
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: he's absolutely getting in and everyone's got their you know,
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: their fingers crossed and waiting to see what happens with
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: this thing. And you hope he doesn't have to wait
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: until his mid eighties like Dick Vermial did, who went
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: in with Piselli this year.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it'll be sooner than later. I have
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: no way of predicting what year will be evaguated. Brian,
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: he's he's a hall of famer. Just based on the giants,
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: I think he'd be a Hall of famer. And then
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: when you factor in the first four or five years
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: of Jacksonville making two AFC Championship games, it's a hall
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: of fame career. And I'll be glad when it happens.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: It'll be deserved Hall of fame person as well as
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Hall of fame coach.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: You can't go wrong with that.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: We'll speak it into existence when not if for him,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: hopefully sooner than later. All right, we're taking another peak
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: at training camp. We're going to get you out there soon,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: but stay with us and we'll give you a peak
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: of what's coming up this week.
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  Speaker 6: We've had a ton of.
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  Speaker 1: Fans out here the last week enjoying the stands and
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  Speaker 1: in fact, we had some youth football players here on Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: Doug had the chance to donate some helmets to the kids.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: And it's just if you can get out here, you should.
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  Speaker 1: You should see it because it's really comes an event.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Instead of just going out to a field and trying to,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: you know, see what was going on.
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: Now you can actually be a part of it.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: And there's a lot of new residents in Jacksonville. Over
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  Speaker 4: the last couple of years, we've really grown and we
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: haven't seen training camp practice in this form since twenty nineteen.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: It's been you know, four years.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: And this is the week. I mean, this is in
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: the past training camp used to be three or four
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: weeks of a grind. This is really the grind week
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: for these guys. This is where they're getting better. It's
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: where you're gonna see one on one pass, rush pads, whatever.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: If you're gonna choose a week to be out here,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: come on the next what six out of the next
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: seven days will be on the field one of those days.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Choose it very well. You guys should get out here.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: If you can, we will be here. We'll be back
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: with you guys on Thursday morning for jags Am. We'll
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I'll be covered and have much more to report as
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: the full pads are going on tomorrow morning, so we'll
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: see you then. Until then, have a great week.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Since