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iconic lesbian couples you forgot about · gasp! the pod

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Lindsay apparently allegedly pays the paparazzi to get a
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picture of her leaving Sam's house to make Sam's new
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girlfriend jealous, so that Sam's new girlfriend thinks that
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Lindsay and Sam are back together.
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You have to respect it. You have to respect this.
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I mean, when you go through a savage breakup, that this is
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naturally what's going to happen.
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Hi you guys. Welcome back to GASP the Pod,
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the podcast for the girls, the gays, and especially the gay
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girls. This is a queer podcast.
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If you guys have not noticed. I know we've all heard of Kaylor
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Taylor and Karlie Kloss, Ashley Benson and Cara Delevingne, and
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of course, like Fletcher and Shanna Beveridge, some iconic
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lesbian couples, the ones that have been talked about, right?
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What about the lesbian couples that we all literally kind of
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forgot about? Time, social media and pop
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culture? Forgot about these couples, the
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couples that maybe only lasted a couple of months and the ones
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that were never covered by the media at all.
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The street media and the ones that stretch beyond lesbian
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couple dumb and enter into a lesbian throuple territory.
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This episode I'm going to cover some iconic lesbian couples that
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you may have forgotten about and maybe some that you've never
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even heard of. That is my hope.
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Many of these are confirmed couples and some are just
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alleged. But here on Gaspod, we know that
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where there is allegation of sapphic flame, there is probably
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yearning saphik fire. I feel like I should trademark
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that. I want to start off strong.
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Let's just get right into it, you guys.
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There's a lot in this episode. I am super fucking excited about
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it and it was really hard for me to decide which couples to talk
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about. Some of these couples, there's
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more to explain than others. So some of them I'm just going
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to like zip right on through and some of them I need to explain
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some crazy fucking lore. I was telling my girlfriend
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about some of these and so my friend and they had never heard
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about it. So I'm hoping you guys will
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learn something new or just remember the ones that you don't
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think about every single day. So first let's talk about Miley
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Cyrus and Caitlin Carter. Miley Cyrus, openly queer woman,
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has had multiple WLW relationships.
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OK, I'm actually going to talk about another one of hers later
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because like it's Miley Cyrus, like we have to.
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So I will get back to her later, I promise.
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But one of the most iconic in my opinion, I don't feel like
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anyone talks about them is almost Kayla level for me.
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You guys, Caitlin and Miley. So here's the back story.
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Miley Cyrus, famous singer, we know her, we love her.
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We're talking 2019, summer of 2019.
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Where are you? Miley Cyrus has been married to
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her husband. Remember Liam Hemsworth for like
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not even a year at this point. OK, that's where she's at.
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Caitlin Carter, if you don't know who she is, look her up
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super hot. This is like a femme on femme
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relationship, OK? Caitlin Carter is Brody Jenner,
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that Jenner of the Kardashians. Jenner, his ex-wife.
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So Caitlin Carter is married. Apparently they were never
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married legally, but they're married at this point too.
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OK, Caitlin and Miley and Liam and Brody, they're all really
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good friends. They would hang out together.
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It's actually, it's such tea. Oh, do I support cheating?
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Yes. On men.
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Sorry anyways, and again, I'm not even alleging that there was
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cheating like they all claim that there was not cheating.
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So that's not even necessarily what happened.
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But it's looking like that from the outside picture.
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But we don't even know if that happened.
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OK, You're saying it didn't? Pretty much.
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The two of them go through divorces individually with their
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respective husbands and they're all very close.
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Also I will add Brody Jenner and Caitlin Carter, they talked
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about how they would have threesomes and they would like
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hook up with other people and like women would be involved in
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their situations. So we don't have evidence at
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least. At least I didn't see this in my
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research, but let me know if I missed something.
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Of the four of them hooking up, however, that's an option here.
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That could have happened that they could have all been hooking
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up. Pretty much what happens is they
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break up with each other. Miley and Caitlin go on a
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European getaway and they're starting out as friends.
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Later Caitlin like kind of writes about this publicly and
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like talks about the relationship.
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And I'm going to put up a bunch of pictures obviously throughout
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this YouTube, but they're on a European vacation.
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These pop photos come out of them like kissing like, and them
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on boats and cuddling and looking super hot and amazing.
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And I, I am telling you, it changed my life.
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I was like, now this is news. Thank you.
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Finally. Like I don't feel like we're
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seeing a lot of fem for fem couples at this point in pop
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culture like this. To me, I was like, I was already
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out, but I was like, a lot of the news articles are being like
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woman on woman lusty getaway. Really.
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It's making it really salacious and kind of making it seem like
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they couldn't have been actually together.
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Later in writings about this, Caitlin Carter says that she
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didn't enjoy how people in her life assumed that she was just
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going to go back to dating men because she was like,
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discovering her sexuality as she like, fell for Miley and that
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they had like, a real romance. They went back to LA together
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and they kept on dating each other.
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And then it seems like they just both went their separate ways.
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It didn't seem like this was going to be a sustainable
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relationship. Later on The Hills, Brody and
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Caitlin have a conversation about the breakup on TV and
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Brody, like they're friends. Still, It seems like Brody,
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unsurprisingly, is like, kind of bipho, not kind of.
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He's biphobic and homophobic, Jenner says.
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Quote, the circumstances of what happened after our split catered
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to that negative shit, the whole lesbian thing.
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Now, Brody so gross that he's like the whole lesbian thing.
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He goes, the whole lesbian thing was gnarly.
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This is just homophobic and sexist and gross because in our
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entire relationship you never expressed that you had any
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interest in females whatsoever. She responds and says.
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I don't think that's fair or totally true to say because mind
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you, they were having threesomes with women.
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She was enjoying that. And it's so gross that men
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think, oh, it's OK when I'm there, but once I'm not there,
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you can't do that. It's like she could be bisexual.
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She actually did express interest in females because she
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was having threesomes with you and other women.
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Do you think that that just means nothing?
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It's there's so many things to this.
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Anyways, that's what he says. Caitlyn goes on to say it was
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more than just like a short lived affair for her.
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And then it was like meaningful. It was meaningful for me as
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well. So thank you, Caitlin and Miley
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for dating. That was super important for me.
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And you guys are really hot. Now we're moving on to an
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alleged couple. This is Kara Delevine, and it
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could be literally so many people because Kara Delevine has
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dated every bitch in the industry.
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And you know the saying of like, you don't have to come out
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anymore. You just get pictured with Kara
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Delevine, Kara Delevine and Kaya Gerber.
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Now this is one of her more random pursuits.
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This is one of the relationships that I mean quote UN quote
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relationships that Cara has had that I feel like is not really
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talked about, mostly because I think there was a lot going on
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in 2020. I looked it up and Kaya Gerber
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was either barely 19 or still 18 when this rumored situation ship
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was happening, which is really gross of Kara because she must
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have been in her late 20s at the time.
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I don't love that age difference.
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And again, they could have been friends.
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But when I show you these pictures and if you're not
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listening on YouTube, just like feel free to look them up
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because it's so smack dab in your face.
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At first when I was like remembering them and the rumors
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of them, I was like, oh wait, let me refresh my memory.
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I was like, wait a damn minute, that looks gay as fuck.
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And I don't care what you say, one of these bitches is out.
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It's not like two of these girls are publicly straight.
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And Kaya has not talked about her sexuality before, so it's
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completely possible that she could have been dating her.
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And remember, she even holding hands and cuddling and, like,
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hugging and getting matching tattoos.
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Yeah, And I'll get to that. With a man everyone would assume
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that they're datingandpeople.com would have been like, Kaya's new
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boyfriend. Because very rarely do these
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celebrities actually confirm these relationships unless
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they're engaged or they're actually like talking about them
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in the press. So like, it is completely up to
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the media to determine who someone has dated or was their
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boyfriend. And very frequently when there's
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a woman that someone is rumored to be with, no one takes it
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seriously unless that's confirmed.
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And I think there is nothing wrong with saying, oh, maybe
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they dated. It seems like they dated because
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that's exactly what we're doing when there's a man that they're
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holding hands with. OK, so this is around 2020.
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Kara and Kaya are like hanging out all the time, posting
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Instagram stories, Instagramming each other, going to protests.
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They allegedly were in lockdown together.
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They're like, again, holding hands, cuddling.
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Like the way that Kara is holding on to her running
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errands. Like it's it's giving situation
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ship. Why would they be tied at the
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hip? I mean, it's Kara Delevingne.
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We all know what happens. The craziest thing about this is
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they got matching tattoos called soul mates.
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Tattoos on their soles like of their foot soul mates.
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Come on. So there's that.
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It's alleged. I completely forgot about this.
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So fucking random. But also Kaya Gerber was in
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bottoms like she's around queer people.
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It would not surprise me if she was bisexual, randomly dated
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Cara Delevingne and then you know she's dated a lot of
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people. Why would she stop at gender?
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Also Cara Delevingne has a sweatshirt that has a picture of
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Kaya naked on it. Like you can't see anything
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because like her shoulder is hiding it.
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And like Cara has the sweatshirt that says Kaya on it with that
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picture that's gay. And then Kaya posted that and
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captioned it. The only person that wears my
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face on her sweatshirt gay. That's one we're just going to
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breeze through because I completely forgot about them.
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Thank you so much. Let's carry on with the episode
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next. We have more fucking crazy lore.
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If you know this like you are hip.
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We are talking early to mid 1990s and I'm trying to channel
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90s Sapphic coffee shop Internet Cafe vibes with my brown shirt
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and my brown lip gloss and my hair.
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That was my vibe inspired by Tracy Chapman and Alice Walker
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and Rebecca Walker. It's a lesbian throuple that,
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yes, includes someone's daughter.
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This is one of the craziest sapphic pop culture stories and
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maybe it deserves a full episode.
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Let me know if you guys want that and I can do like a real
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deep dive. But this is actually some absurd
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stuff. It's really weird what happens.
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So put yourself in the early to mid 1990s, OK?
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Tracy Chapman, very very famous singer.
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She has not actually talked about her sexuality, but she is
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most definitely queer based on what we know about her
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relationships and her music. OK, Alice Walker is a writer.
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She wrote The Color Purple. She was the very first African
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American woman to win a Pulitzer Prize for fiction.
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She participated in the civil rights movement.
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She's recently come under fire because she defended JK
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Rowling's transphobia. Not great.
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And she dated Tracy Chapman. That's a confirmed relationship.
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What is not confirmed, but like again, is alleged and I just
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have to say that because it just has not been officially
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confirmed, is that Alice Walkers daughter, Rebecca Walker dated
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Tracy Chapman. Alice Walker and her daughter
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Rebecca Walker are both out bisexuals.
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They have had a tumultuous relationship for multiple
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reasons and because because Alice Walker allegedly stole her
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daughter's girlfriend, Tracy Chapman in the early to mid
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1990s It's insane. Alice Walker said she was drawn
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to Tracy because of her voice. But how'd you meet her, Alice?
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It seems like you met her through your daughter and it's
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important to note that Tracy was more so around Rebecca's age at
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the time. Alice Walker was actually
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multiple decades older than Tracy.
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Do you see the dynamic? So it does not end here, you
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guys. The messiness continues to
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financial messiness. It gets kind of bad.
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So what happens is you know how I mentioned a coffee bar?
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Think L Word right vibes. It's like if L Word wasn't so
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white. Pretty much.
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In 1996, Rebecca and Angel Williams opened up Cocoa Bar,
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which was the first Cyber Cafe owned and operated by black
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women in Brooklyn. Super fucking sick.
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It was like a sapphic, black sapphic coffee bar and it had a
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lot of investors including Spike Lee and also Tracy Chapman
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invested $60,000. OK, so the tea is like, we don't
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know exactly when their relationship ended.
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We don't know when she started dating her mom.
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We do know that Chapman invested $60,000 per the New York Times.
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OK, then when the owners failed to repay Chapman, Tracy Chapman
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sued the bar. And then when she never got the
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money back, she eventually sent sheriffs.
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Like this is messy as fuck when you're dating her mom and seized
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cash, chairs, tables, coffee, and things to make up for the
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money that she invested. Chapman never talked about it
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publicly because she never said anything publicly really.
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But Angel Williams, who's not Rebecca, obviously says, quote,
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if she doesn't give a hoot about people, that's fine.
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But then she shouldn't run around singing songs about
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saving the earth. So T very much drama.
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Obviously, it's been 30 years since this happened.
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Apparently Rebecca and her mom have sense, like figured out a
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better relationship. And Chapman wrote some songs
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inspired by Alice Walker. Who knows if they're inspired by
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Rebecca. Again, we don't know much
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publicly, so let me know if you guys knew that.
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It's a crazy saga. It's so weird.
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That's so weird. Don't take your daughter's
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girlfriend I even if she's Tracy Chapman.
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All right, let's talk about another alleged couple.
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This is going to be good for some gaylors who may be aware of
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this, but no one really talks about this music as much as
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others. That's why she may have been a
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forgotten muse. Taylor Swift and Ruby Rose.
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OK, this is an interesting, interesting part of the Gaylord
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timeline too. I feel like Ruby could have
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snuck in there. And Ruby is kind of like a long
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time member of the squad. She went to the 4th of July at
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Taylor's house. She's hanging out with Taylor
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and all of her friends. Ruby Rose out queer actor again.
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If this was a man, we would have immediately had him in the list
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of exes that Taylor Swift taught, you know what I mean?
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So it's just really annoying that like the saphicness of her
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history is erased. So when do they possibly date?
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I would argue the timeline of this would potentially be around
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2016 or before, kind of maybe around like New Year's of 2016
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into like summer of 2016 and an interesting time, right?
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Like where she was kind of bouncing around.
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Maybe Carly had just ended. Maybe Lily Donaldson hasn't
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started yet again. She's supposed to have been
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dating Calvin Harris. But you know, even he admits to
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being a beard. So that's the cover up.
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There's some messiness happening with Taylor around this time.
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It's not the craziest thing that could have happened.
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This is some notable parts of their alleged relationship that
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I do again, think us and the Gaylord community, and even if
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you're not in the Gaylord community, queers and pop
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culture completely forget about. I know Taylor Swift and Cara
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Delevingne have been linked to a lot of different people.
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Sometimes we forget about the more nonchalant ones.
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Maybe those were the realer ones and the more big ones were just
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what the news caught on to, you know what I mean?
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Because there's actually a lot of lore here.
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So Taylor actually actually announced A GLAAD award for Ruby
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Rose. Of course, she does say my
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friend, but we know that doesn't really mean anything.
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In her speech she says about Ruby Rose, she tells the world
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that no one can judge us and no one can stop us, not the world.
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This is about a queer. This is about the LGBTQ
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community. She just said she's a part of
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the LGBTQ community. Hello.
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They're pictured together a bunch that evening because she's
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introducing an award for her, but they're also together a lot.
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OK. This was at the 2016 Glad
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Awards. So right around the time that
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they're hanging out a lot, there's also a picture of Ruby
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kissing a picture of Taylor and she's like kissing her on the
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lips in the picture. There's also tweets of Ruby
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saying that Taylor is her celebrity crush.
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Ruby Rose told People magazine that Taylor Swift was her
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ultimate crush and said quote, people get so surprised when I
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say this and I don't know why, but I have such a girl crush on
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Taylor Swift. I'm obsessed.
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And I also want to add that when she did this interview, she was
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engaged. And then later on in 2015, their
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engagement did end. I'm not saying I know what
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happened. I'm just telling you guys what
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I'm reading. Taylor has also met Ruby's
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family when she was on tour, and the more notable evidence comes
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from pictures of them on New Year's Eve of 2016 at a Calvin
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Harris concert. And this is in Vegas.
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And do you guys remember the song?
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New Year's Day there are pictures of Ruby like what looks
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like her kissing her on the cheek.
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It's so fucking gay. Also I forgot to mention that
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Ruby Rose but I forgot. I guess she's a DJ too.
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Ruby Rose also tweeted that Taylor Swift is a gateway drug.
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She says. I don't know what to but
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whatever it is she is the gateway drug which it just seems
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like they had a fling for like 6 months you know what I mean?
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Or maybe something more who knows.
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But they were like with each other on New Year's.
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Everyone knows that Taylor like brings her little flings around,
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hides them in plain sight and like because she has the cover
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of Calvin. You can also add on the lyrics
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of the Rubies that I gave up. He's in the club doing I don't
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know what, but you're over here with Ruby Rose.
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We also have an Archer reference, you know, Taylor
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Swift song the Archer. Ruby Rose actually has a tattoo
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of Archer, not of like a bow and arrow, but of the character
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Archer, which I think is really interesting.
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In a different interpretation of the song.
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It's apparently a sitcom. I don't know, but she has a
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tattoo of Archer, which I think is kind of tea.
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As recently as in the last year, Ruby has defended Taylor Online
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from like trad wife allegations. So there's that theory.
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I can always dig deeper into that.
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I'm sure there's a lot of other connections, but I kind of feel
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like we forgot about Ruby Rose and all of this as an option, as
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a potential muse. OK, let's move on to Kalani and
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Sisa. There's not necessarily much
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here, but I remember when this was happening in 2021, I was
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like, bitch, they're dating. I feel like people forgot about
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this and moved along. A lot of these alleged couples
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have one thing in common. It's an openly queer person and
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then a person that no one would assume is queer.
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And so they think, oh, they can't be dating because that
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person's not out as queer. It's still possible.
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So in 2021, they were just like, very close physically with each
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other and like, also close in general.
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SZA threw a surprise birthday party for Kalani.
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They were holding hands a lot, posting pictures of each other.
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Kalani posted an Instagram story of them captioning it.
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Don't speak to me and my girlfriend ever again.
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I mean, you just referred to her as your girlfriend.
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I understand that you could be exaggerating.
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But then like, it's fair for us to be like, were you guys
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dating? Because it looks like it.
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They're like holding on to each other in such gay ways.
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Like this is like, turn to herself, turn to Kalani and all
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of these pictures. Kalani posted an Instagram story
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of them captioning it. My Poison Ivy, like she's yours
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again, not much there but like I feel like we always forget about
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that possibility. And then of course SZA tweeted
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that I'm a lesbian tweet. Someone posted like a picture
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with SZA and it says like lesbian and she responded and
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said it's not wrong lol. But then like releases an album
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where she's talking about men. So it's like she's either
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exaggerating or she's bi or she is.
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I don't know what's happening, but they still could have dated.
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OK, moving on to another short one.
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Kate Monig, I don't know if I'm saying her last name right from
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the L word. You know, Shane and Evan Rachel
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Wood dated. I don't know if you guys
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remember this. I completely forgot that they
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dated. Classically, Evan Rachel Wood
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got out of a relationship. I think it was her husband.
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This is 2014 they got together for kind of like a brief affair,
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not like affair, but like situation, whirlwind romance.
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And I just completely forgot that they dated.
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But Evan Rachel Wood is is out is by and I just want to remind
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people the reason why this is a confirmed relationship is not
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because Evan or Kate like posted anything about confirming their
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relationship. It's just because they had APDA
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outing and both of them are out as gay.
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It's just because they're out as queer that then the media was
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like, oh, they're dating. And it's like, why?
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Why? Like it's only when someone is
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out that you think you can make that jump.
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And it's not outing someone if they were walking on the streets
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into crowded restaurants, holding hands with their lover.
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That's not outing them. If they are out in public
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showing off their relationship, that's them outing themselves.
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Then they're OK with being with the their lover.
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I'm so annoyed by the media. Anyways, the more interesting
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story when I did this research is apparently there's a rumor
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and I haven't been able to find any more details besides just
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the fact that the rumor exists. It's alleged from people on
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Reddit. Again, take it with a grain of
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salt that Kate and Parker Posey dated in the 90s.
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I knew I liked Parker Posey, I just fucking believe it.
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And again, it's alleged. Whatever, I have no details.
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If you guys know anything about this possible relationship,
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fucking let me know. Because crazy, crazy combination
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that I'm absolutely dying for. All right, I said I would go
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back to Miley Cyrus, and this couple is Miley Cyrus and Stella
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Maxwell. We talk about Miley Cyrus and
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the men around her all the time. We never talk about Miley and
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Stella. This was 2015.
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This was in between Miley's relationships with Patrick
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Schwarzenegger, who I did see on the beach a few years ago, and
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he was super annoying and obnoxious.
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Anyways, and right before she got back with Liam Hemsworth, so
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there's this iconic make out pop shot of Miley making out with
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Stella next to a tour of us. It changed my life.
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They were apparently a situation ship and they never like we're
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like dating officially. I guess they would take pics
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together though and post them. They held hands.
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They went to Disney. Fucking love it.
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And this is kind of more of like a mask era for Miley Cyrus.
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This is just super important for me as a teenager to see and I'm
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just, we need to remember this relationship or romance rather.
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Speaking of Stella Maxwell, Stella Maxwell dated Kristen
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Stewart, she and Cara Delevingne, they have been just
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running the circles. OK.
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And I actually when I was doing research for this, I was like,
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wait, did Miley and Kristen everyday?
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Apparently they did not. So Stella Maxwell and Kristen
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Stewart dated for kind of a long time on and off from 2016 and
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2019. Dozens of coordinated pictures
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we have of them holding hands. Apparently they shared a home at
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one point. I feel like this is one of those
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couples that like Cara Delevingne and Ashley Benson,
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like, got more buzz over, which is fine, who cares, but people
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forget. OK, Stella Maxwell guys, I
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talked about her and my Victoria's Secret episode.
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She has dated a lot of people that no one would assume that
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she's dating because they're femme and they're not out like
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Bella Hadid and some other models.
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Super iconic gay bitch. On to our final couple that
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probably has. I mean, I wouldn't say the
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craziest lore because it's hard to beat the Tracy Chapman mother
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daughter love triangle, but this is one couple that I feel like
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has recently popped back into pop culture news.
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I'm sure you guys have heard of it now, but like we have to get
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into it. It is forgotten because I do
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think people forget things that happened in the late 2000s.
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So if this is news to you, let me know.
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Let me know if this is shocking to you because this lore is
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really crazy. It's Lindsay Lohan and Samantha
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Ronson. Lindsay Lohan, you know her, you
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may love her. She says she's straight, but she
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objectively can't be based on this story.
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Actress and Samantha Ronson, who is an English DJ, sister to Mark
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Ronson, producer, music producer.
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They dated between 2008 and 2009.
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So like kind of a significant amount of time.
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They were on and off and it was very tumultuous, as you will
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begin to learn as I tell you the rest of this story, Lindsay at
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this time was also like in and out of rehab.
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So that probably didn't help the stability of the relationship.
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They did actually do public appearances together.
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This is a confirmed relationship.
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This is not even alleged. This is straight up confirmed.
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I know crazy for 2008, Lindsay said about the situation to
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Harper's Bazaar saying, quote, it's been going on for quite
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some time. I love her very much.
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So they were in a relationship and they said I love you to each
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other. So this isn't like a sapphic one
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off encounter, this is a real relationship.
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OK, a Butch fun moment. We love to see it.
29:09
Once they broke up though, Sam apparently changed the locks on
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her house and banned Lindsay from events that were related to
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her. According to Lindsay, this came
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out of nowhere and she was blindsided.
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There were allegations of cheating.
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Sam apparently inquired about a restraining order at one point.
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It's hard to know what actually happened, but Lindsay actually
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went on Ellen to talk about this.
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It was that much of A public deal.
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So it's crazy how much things can get lost in translation.
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And that, like, I guess Gen. Z, like, a lot of people didn't
29:40
know about this. I mean, I was telling my friend
29:42
about this this morning, and she had no idea.
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But, yeah, like, Lindsay said that she did not cheat on Sam
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and that this, like, blindsided her.
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But here's where it gets interesting.
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So they break up. It's 2011 and there's this
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interesting moment that happens with the paparazzi.
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I call it stuffed animal gait. Lindsay apparently allegedly
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pays the paparazzi and like, it looks pretty obvious that she's
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doing it to get a picture of her leaving Sam's house and she's
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holding an I love you a bear, a stuffed bear with an I love you
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heart on it to make Sam's new girlfriend jealous so that Sam's
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new girlfriend thinks that Lindsay and Sam are back
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together. You have to respect it.
30:30
You have to respect this. I mean, when you go through a
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savage breakup that this is naturally what's going to
30:35
happen. So I think this is so fucking
30:37
funny and if anything makes her lovable as a person, like a
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little crazy, kind of fucking iconic.
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After all of this, I ended up apparently being friends and on
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good terms. I mean, who actually knows the
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situation? But it's not like Lindsay now
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says that she's queer because in 2013, and who knows what she
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says if someone would interview her now because this is still
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before gay marriage is legal in the United States.
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Years before it in 2013, she goes on Piers Morgan, which the
31:08
wrong place to be interviewed. Lindsay says she's quote
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straight. She says quote.
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I like being in a relationship with a guy, but there's
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something just different about it with a woman.
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So true. When I was with Samantha, I
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didn't want to leave because I didn't want to be alone.
31:23
It was very toxic. And again, that can all be true.
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And you can also be in love with a woman.
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And her family controlled anything she did.
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Who knows about the truth of that?
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Lindsay also says, quote, there was a point when I was in love
31:38
with Sam. Oh, so you were in love with a
31:40
girl? But then she says, quote, no, I
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know I'm straight. OK, So those are contradictory
31:46
statements. If you loved her, you can't be
31:48
straight. If you were in love with her,
31:51
you can't be straight. She goes, no, I know I'm
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straight. I have made out with girls
31:55
before and had a relationship right with a girl, but I think I
32:00
needed to experience that and I think I was looking for
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something different. Sure.
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Yeah, Yeah, for sure. It seemed like you wanted
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something different when you were outside of her house with a
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paparazzi you paid. So that's Samantha and Lindsay
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Lohan. Literally crazy Sapphic lore.
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I mean, that's some L word bullshit as well.
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We need more of this drama. We need some A list Sapphic
32:25
drama present day more. I hope you guys enjoyed this
32:29
episode. I hope you learned something
32:31
new. Let me know if there's any
32:32
lesbian couples you want me to talk about in the future that
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you feel like people forget about.
32:37
Alleged or is it alleged or alleged?
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I'm going to sound really stupid this whole episode if it's
32:44
alleged, but I feel like this is one of those episodes where I
32:47
could easily do like a Part 2. I also was thinking about doing
32:50
an episode that is gay people you forgot were gay or maybe
32:54
never knew were gay. That could be fun.
32:57
So yeah, let me know your ideas and I hope you enjoyed hearing
33:00
about some lesbian tea. Just a reminder to please
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I will see you soon. I'm really excited for the next
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few episodes I have bye.