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Early NFL Bets with Brandon Anderson · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites the podcast part of the Volume
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  Speaker 1: Podcast Network. Iuy am Chad Noman or the Action Network. Today.
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  Speaker 1: I'm joined as always by my co host, my companion,
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  Speaker 1: Mike and Fadre my BFF professional better Simon Hunter L
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  Speaker 1: saw him.
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  Speaker 2: In Chad right Now hot topic in Philly because of
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  Speaker 2: Sakuon Barkley. He said the Eagles were that pass. The
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  Speaker 2: Eagles team was a top five Eagles or just team
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  Speaker 2: ever to win a Super Bowl. In the list, Chad,
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  Speaker 2: you're nineteen eighty five Bears, which I thought was respect to, uh,
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  Speaker 2: one of the greater teams. I didn't think Saquon would
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  Speaker 2: know about the nineteen eighty five Bears. So yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: it's it's a hot topic, and so you know where
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  Speaker 2: I'm coming from that, I you know, I respect that
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  Speaker 2: Bears team, but I'm obviously gonna put my own Eagles
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  Speaker 2: team above that team.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Fun debating super Bowl winners, obviously, but it's funny enough
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  Speaker 2: that young people even and talk about the nineteen eighty
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  Speaker 2: five Bears.
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  Speaker 3: It's not just Chicago people listen that.
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  Speaker 1: Eighty five Bears team. If you're in a football fan,
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  Speaker 1: it's one of the most prominent franchise sort of markers
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  Speaker 1: for any fan, Like it's discussed in any conversation about
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  Speaker 1: greatest all time teams because their defense was so dominant
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  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl Shuffle, they had so much personality.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's all the nicknames.
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  Speaker 2: You got the refrigerator berry, you got sweetness in the backfield.
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  Speaker 2: It's it feels like they just had the right time
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  Speaker 2: of like the group of characters with a great defense,
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  Speaker 2: with a great head coach, and you know it just
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  Speaker 2: goes together right, eighty five Bears.
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  Speaker 3: It just sounds like it's meant to.
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  Speaker 1: Be that team. Also, Jimbo Covert left tackle, Hall of Fame,
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  Speaker 1: Walcom Payton running back, Hall of Fame, Mike Dicka head coach,
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, Jim Finks GM Hall of Fame, Dan
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  Speaker 1: Hampton defensive end, defensive tackle, Hall of Fame, Richard Dent
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  Speaker 1: defensive end, Hall of Fame, Steve McMichael defensive tackle, Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Fame, Mike Singletary linebacker, Hall of Fame. Like that
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  Speaker 1: team literally had seven Hall of Fame players and executives
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  Speaker 1: and coaches, like other than the Steelers, there's no other
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  Speaker 1: team that can match that. The eighty four Niners can't
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  Speaker 1: match that you talk about.
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  Speaker 3: None of those Dallas teams of the nineties had that
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  Speaker 3: many Hall of Famers.
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  Speaker 1: Troy Aikman, EMITTT Smith, Michael Irvin. I don't know that
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  Speaker 1: they had. We'd have to look it up. But like
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots, you know, they didn't have that many Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Famers. No, the Eagles, how many Hall of Famers
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  Speaker 1: will they have? Like that, Bear's team was dominant. The
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  Speaker 1: only failing of that Bears team is that they didn't
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  Speaker 1: win more Super Bowls, and that was because Buddy Ryan
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  Speaker 1: couldn't get along with Mike Dicka. He decided to leave.
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  Speaker 1: The defense was never as aggressive after that. They were
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  Speaker 1: upset in multiple playoffs two years in a row. Like
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  Speaker 1: it just it, It was a It was a beautiful,
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  Speaker 1: gorgeous lightning bug of a team.
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  Speaker 3: Once again. Though I cannot believe that Saeque had him
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  Speaker 3: in his top five.
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  Speaker 2: I just I just thought, respect the saquon the kids
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  Speaker 2: under thirty, the fact that he knows his football history
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  Speaker 2: like that, I just knew you would love that. Where
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  Speaker 2: you know, as an Egos bias fan, I was just like,
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe this kid went back that far.
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  Speaker 3: I did not think Seque had that in his bag,
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  Speaker 3: so I think on his.
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  Speaker 2: List, I think it was like it was that Dallas team,
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  Speaker 2: that Patriots team.
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  Speaker 3: What was it? I think Patriots won in seven? Or
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  Speaker 3: was that the undefeated was nine?
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  Speaker 2: I think But and then you know, the big debate
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  Speaker 2: with him the other guys he was on the show
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  Speaker 2: with was just talking about these Chiefs teams like of
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  Speaker 2: the past where it's like no one views them as
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  Speaker 2: the greatest team, right even though they almost won three
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  Speaker 2: in a row. So I just thought that was interesting too,
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  Speaker 2: where you know, that's just you know, a kid like
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  Speaker 2: him talking about it when we set him and all
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  Speaker 2: of his boys are debating it, and I told you
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  Speaker 2: my view of it.
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  Speaker 3: The Eagles team, you know.
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  Speaker 2: It's always the future as we move on bigger, faster, stronger.
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  Speaker 2: We always talk about that, how it changes things this
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  Speaker 2: Eagles team. I would love I'm gonna probably do it
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  Speaker 2: this offseason because I have so much free time. I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna definitely simulate it and just see what these two
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  Speaker 2: teams would do against eighty five Bears against the Eagles.
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  Speaker 2: I would love to know what that spread would be.
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  Speaker 2: Well see, maybe I'll do a conferent action first one
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  Speaker 2: in forever about all these past Super Bowl teams, but
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  Speaker 2: you know this Eagles team igraded them out.
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  Speaker 3: I told you I had got lower grade on them.
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  Speaker 2: Than that Ravens team that lost lash two years ago
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  Speaker 2: to the Chiefs. So it's funny where it's an all
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  Speaker 2: time great team to our perspective because they just you know,
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  Speaker 2: have scored the most points.
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  Speaker 3: Of playoff history.
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  Speaker 2: But it'll be interesting what the data says, because I
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  Speaker 2: think it's going to say otherwise.
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  Speaker 1: Bok Simon. That is one hundred percent a podcast. And
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  Speaker 1: if you think we're not doing that as we get
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  Speaker 1: closer into the summer to fill one of the episodes,
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  Speaker 1: you're freaking crazy. And you and I are going to
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  Speaker 1: be together and we're going to talk about the other
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  Speaker 1: teams on that list for a good time and we'll
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  Speaker 1: simulate who's going to be favored and how that game
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  Speaker 1: would have played out. The other Hall of famers on
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  Speaker 1: that Cowboys team, Aikman, Dion, EMMITTT Smith, Michael Irvin, Larry Allen,
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  Speaker 1: Charles Haley, plus Jimmy Johnson. Look, I think the Chiefs.
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  Speaker 1: The last thing we'll say about this before we bring
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  Speaker 1: in our guests. I think The Chiefs are going to
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  Speaker 1: have Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, Chris Jones, they might have
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  Speaker 1: Joe Tooney, They're gonna have Spagnolo. I think they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have Andy Reid. They're going to go down when you
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  Speaker 1: look back as one of the most talented Hall of
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  Speaker 1: Fame teams for sure. And I think they'll be up
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  Speaker 1: there with the Steelers, the Bears, these Cowboys fascinating topic
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  Speaker 1: and good for Saquon, Good for Sakue for affecting the
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  Speaker 1: old gees. We are joined today speaking of an og
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  Speaker 1: our longtime colleague, one of the most opinionated people at
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  Speaker 1: Action Network. You can hear him during the NBA Playoffs
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  Speaker 1: and Our Buckets podcast and every week during the NFL
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  Speaker 1: season as co host of the Action Network podcast. His
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  Speaker 1: hot reads on the Action Network podcast Sunday Night episode
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  Speaker 1: with Evan Abrams are in valuable. Welcome back to the show,
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  Speaker 1: bran Din.
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  Speaker 4: And der So, it's good to be here, guys. I
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  Speaker 4: didn't know we were doing some herschel Walcke a talk today.
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  Speaker 4: Herschel Walker basically funded the entire Jerry Jones Cowboys Hall
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  Speaker 4: of Famers. Probably like the best thing the Vikings I've
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  Speaker 4: ever accomplished as a franchise, so you know, repping my
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  Speaker 4: home teams here. Good time to be a Minso sports
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  Speaker 4: fan as allus.
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  Speaker 1: Brandon, I don't know the answer to this question. I
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  Speaker 1: feel a little bit like a lawyer who is being
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  Speaker 1: told to ask a question and he doesn't know the answer,
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  Speaker 1: and that's always dangerous. But Matt Mitchell has told me
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  Speaker 1: I have to ask what is happening at your house
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  Speaker 1: right now? And I'm assuming Matt knows that the rest
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  Speaker 1: of our audience is going to be tickled by what's happening.
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  Speaker 5: In your house.
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  Speaker 4: Man, my house is a disaster. So about a month ago,
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  Speaker 4: I get a call from my landlord at like seven am.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm renting a townhouse. There's four townhouses are all together,
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  Speaker 4: we got like the shared four corners. And I get
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  Speaker 4: a call that says, hey, I need you to wake up,
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  Speaker 4: get downstairs, find out if you have water coming in.
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  Speaker 4: The neighbors have called and complained they're getting water. It's
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  Speaker 4: from your house. So I go down. I look, there's
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  Speaker 4: no water. There's nothing happening. There's no water anywhere. Nothing's
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  Speaker 4: happening in my house. We spend the entire week, I
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  Speaker 4: got an ac guy coming out, I got a heating
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  Speaker 4: guy coming out. We got like people coming out checking
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  Speaker 4: the kitchen, the piping. We got City of Aurora coming
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  Speaker 4: out checking underneath the house, like they're sonar ring down
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  Speaker 4: underneath my house. They're finding nothing. In the meantime, I'm like, guys,
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  Speaker 4: there are four houses. We share a corner where you
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  Speaker 4: think the waters from check the other two houses. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 4: it's your house. Finally, a full week later, we find
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  Speaker 4: out you'll never believe this.
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  Speaker 5: It's one of the other two houses.
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  Speaker 4: They're water heater busted and it's just been slowly leaking
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  Speaker 4: water in the meantime because of that, water has been
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  Speaker 4: slowly like squishing up through my flooring, like another foot
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  Speaker 4: or two further into my house each day. So I
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  Speaker 4: didn't really get like standing water. But it turns out
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  Speaker 4: water being in your house for a week is real
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  Speaker 4: bad for your house. So since then they came in,
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  Speaker 4: they tore out all the floor or all the flooring,
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  Speaker 4: all the paneling. They'd take out two feet of sheet
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  Speaker 4: rock all the way around. I have no kitchen, I
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  Speaker 4: have no bathroom. On the main floor there is a
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  Speaker 4: bathroom and my one sink in the house is the
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  Speaker 4: upstairs shallow bathroom sink. So I gotta like fill water bottles,
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  Speaker 4: take them down to my refrigerator, and that's what I
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  Speaker 4: can use. But I can't cook. Really, I have just
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  Speaker 4: a refrigerator in my house. I work from home. I'm
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  Speaker 4: at my house house right now, like they are working
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  Speaker 4: below me right now in my house. And this is
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  Speaker 4: just my house. This is what's happening for a month
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  Speaker 4: and counting right now. Current ETA is like July maybe
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  Speaker 4: when I will have a normal functioning house again. It's
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  Speaker 4: it's been a month. This is where I live. This,
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  Speaker 4: this is this is my life now.
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  Speaker 1: That is terrible.
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  Speaker 4: But by the way, by the way, the two feet
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  Speaker 4: of walls missing, just to be clear, those are the
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  Speaker 4: walls separating me from my neighbors. I share a house
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  Speaker 4: with my neighbors. Now the plastic between.
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  Speaker 3: Me and my neighbors.
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  Speaker 4: I get their mills, I get their sounds, I watch
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  Speaker 4: their TV shows. I'm getting everything from that. Can like
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  Speaker 4: crawl into their house if I want to.
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  Speaker 1: What else is going on in those houses?
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  Speaker 5: Ah, it's a mess.
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  Speaker 1: Signing as a as a real estate owner. This sounds
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  Speaker 1: like a nightmare.
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  Speaker 2: It does and I would just be happy that he's
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  Speaker 2: not suing me. I feel like this is like the
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  Speaker 2: grounds determination. This guy has broken your contract in many
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  Speaker 2: different ways. But yeah, this the party stick out to me.
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  Speaker 2: You says can be done July, just in time for
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  Speaker 2: you to be done during your NBA season.
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  Speaker 3: I know, like it's ridiculous. No, you're you're a trooper.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 2: I'd be losing my shit, but you know that's this
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  Speaker 2: is part of life. This is why as someone that
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  Speaker 2: has been a renter and rented, this is the greatest fear.
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  Speaker 2: Is exactly what he's explaining here, which is just all
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  Speaker 2: shit going wrong and then just falls on you and
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  Speaker 2: you have.
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  Speaker 3: No other options. But I mean, I feel bad for you, brother.
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  Speaker 4: Well you know how it goes too, Like my landlord's
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  Speaker 4: not even the owner. I got like the landlord manager company,
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  Speaker 4: So I can't even contact the landlord. Their contact with
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  Speaker 4: their insurance. The neighbor who found the water is contacting
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  Speaker 4: their insurance. The neighborhood's house is actually provided the waters,
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  Speaker 4: doing their insurance, My rented insurance doing crap. Nobody will
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  Speaker 4: communicate with anyone else. And yeah, when you're not the
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  Speaker 4: owner and can't just like figure things out yourself. You're
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  Speaker 4: stuck waiting on like eight lines of communication, and I'm like, really,
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  Speaker 4: right now during the nightly NBA playoffs and like daily
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  Speaker 4: Bucket episodes, this is the time, of course, this is
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  Speaker 4: the time.
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  Speaker 5: That's all is the time, all right?
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  Speaker 1: Can we get down to business please, because as terrible
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  Speaker 1: as I feel for Brandon, We've got some NFL futures
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  Speaker 1: to discuss. That's the promise of this show. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to play a game. Okay. We all love betting MVPs. Brandon,
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  Speaker 1: you specifically love betting MVP. You just nailed the NBA
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  Speaker 1: MVP shake Gildes Alexander. You had him at six to
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  Speaker 1: one this past season. Evan has some information on the
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  Speaker 1: most recent MVPs from a betting perspective. We'll have a
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  Speaker 1: two round draft. You can't draft any one twenty to
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  Speaker 1: one or shorter. So that includes the seven favorites, Lamar Jackson,
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, Jadan Daniels, Jalen Hurds,
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  Speaker 1: and Justin Herbert. They're all between five to one and
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  Speaker 1: twenty to one. We each get two picks. I'm going first,
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  Speaker 1: sign and second, Brandon third, we go back around. Brandon
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  Speaker 1: wants to go last. You're probably gonna throw out a
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  Speaker 1: couple extra names at the end quickly, right, you specifically
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  Speaker 1: want to go last. I get to go first. Okay, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So we've got CJ Strad, We've got Jared Goff, We've
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  Speaker 1: got Jordan Love, Caleb Williams. Rock Purty is interesting to me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go brock Perdy thirty five
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  Speaker 1: to one. And here's my reasoning. We've talked about this
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  Speaker 1: a lot over the past couple months. We love the Niners,
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  Speaker 1: and Simon, we love the Niners. When before the schedule
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  Speaker 1: was announced, we love the Niners even more after our
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  Speaker 1: podcast with the war and Sharp. I bet the Niners
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  Speaker 1: twenty five to one to win the Super Bowl. And
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  Speaker 1: I think last year was so bad and such an
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  Speaker 1: anomaly for this team because of all the injuries. I
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  Speaker 1: am betting on them being healthy. I am betting on
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  Speaker 1: them having a favorable schedule for the first time in
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  Speaker 1: probably half a decade because they haven't made it to
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  Speaker 1: an NFC championship game at the least. So I'm betting
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  Speaker 1: on brock perty thirty five to one.
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  Speaker 3: There you go.
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  Speaker 2: Rock Party off the board. I'm gonna go with Chattery
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  Speaker 2: knows all this. I'm on the Cowboys. How am I
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  Speaker 2: not going to DAK forty five to one? My view
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  Speaker 2: of is this is probably one of the better offense
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna we're playing.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the fact that they went out got a
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  Speaker 3: star receiver to be his number two receiver.
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  Speaker 2: They know the deal, right you're in the division right
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  Speaker 2: now that you were alert, you were looked at as
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  Speaker 2: a third team, like they know that Washington and the
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  Speaker 2: Eagles are placed above them. To me, this is the
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  Speaker 2: perfect spot to back deck a guy who's coming off
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  Speaker 2: a fluke injury. On the previous season before that, he
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  Speaker 2: was basically second MVP voting. So the fact that we're
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  Speaker 2: getting him at forty five to one in a division
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  Speaker 2: that he's basically left for dead. I mean, though shocked
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  Speaker 2: to know and listened to the show, I'm all on
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  Speaker 2: the Cowboys, and we already talked about their schedule. If
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  Speaker 2: he goes through that schedule and wins this division, somehow
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  Speaker 2: gets the twelve wins, I could easily see him being
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  Speaker 2: in consideration for that MVP award.
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  Speaker 3: So I like that value here on.
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  Speaker 1: DAK, that was gonna be my second pick Brandon.
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  Speaker 4: So those were my two pecks two years ago. That
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  Speaker 4: was my position for the season and going into the year.
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  Speaker 4: I think a problem with both of them. You often
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  Speaker 4: see like the one off candidates. I think they both
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  Speaker 4: had their MVP year. I think the MVP year wh
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  Speaker 4: that year two seasons ago. Dak finished second. Purdy I
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  Speaker 4: thought had a real case to win. You often if
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  Speaker 4: you were not Mahomes or Alan or Lamar, one of
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  Speaker 4: that level of quarterback, you often have your MVP shot.
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  Speaker 4: You have one shot at it with that one great year.
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  Speaker 4: I fear with Dak and maybe Purty that they maybe
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  Speaker 4: had that year already.
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  Speaker 5: You mentioned Evan.
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  Speaker 4: Evan had the stat that in the NBA, the last
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  Speaker 4: three MVPs Shagist, Alexander, Jokic, and Embiid all three were
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  Speaker 4: six to one or shorter. It's the first time in
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  Speaker 4: fifteen years that we've had three short favorites.
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  Speaker 5: In the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: The reason I want to do this draft is because
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  Speaker 4: we often have longer number MVPs. Seven of the last
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  Speaker 4: ten MVPs have been at eleven hundred or longer heading
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  Speaker 4: into the season. So typically if it's just one of
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  Speaker 4: those generational Hall of Fame guys. That's fine that you know.
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  Speaker 4: We're not gonna give you short odds. We're not gonna
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  Speaker 4: give you like a two thousand and one Mahomes or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: If that's who you want, that's who you want. But
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  Speaker 4: there is a lot of times where you know, even
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  Speaker 4: Lamar wanted at sixteen to one. Matt Ryan was seventy
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  Speaker 4: five to one his year, Cam Newton was fifty to one.
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  Speaker 4: Lamar was forty to one his first time.
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  Speaker 5: So that's why.
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  Speaker 4: We like the long shots. I'm interested by Dak and
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  Speaker 4: by Purty. I'm understanding the forty nine ers For my
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  Speaker 4: first pick, I'm gonna.
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  Speaker 5: Surprise myself a little bit. Actually, I don't.
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  Speaker 4: Really love this team or player, but I like the number,
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  Speaker 4: and I like I don't mind betting on being wrong sometimes.
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  Speaker 4: And if I'm wrong, how would I be wrong? Could
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  Speaker 4: it be this version? I've not been in on the rams.
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  Speaker 4: I do not really believe in the rams, but if
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  Speaker 4: the rams are good, Matthew Stafford fifty to one, I
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  Speaker 4: think it was a really interesting MVP pick. Davante Adams
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  Speaker 4: and Puka Nukua. That's like the best one two punch
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  Speaker 4: receiving corps in the NFL. You got a good running
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  Speaker 4: game with Karen Williams Blake Corum. Second year, they've invested
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  Speaker 4: in the line. I don't super trust the defense yet,
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  Speaker 4: but they're young, they're coming around late last season. They're
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  Speaker 4: a ten win team two years in a row, and
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: we've seen when the offense is hot, like they can
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: beat anybody. They can drop forty points any given day.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: And Matt Stafford the thing too. You always need the
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: narrative here, thirty seven year old Stafford on his last
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: leg set up for retirement. Is he a Hall of Famer? Like,
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: we're all going to have that conversation if he's having
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: a big year and it's a tough division, because I
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: agree I like the forty nine ers, but if the
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: Rams actually can win the division and beat toward the
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: top of the NFC, I think Stafford at fifty to
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: one is a real bargain and should be in that
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: like twenty twenty five range.
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: So he's my first pick. I surprise myself.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: I gotta say I love that one too. Simon. We also,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but like my two futures
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: bets are the Rams and the Niners, and so I
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: don't have any issue with what Brandon is saying about Stafford.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the first team I think a position
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: on and I got lucky obviously because they afterwards added
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: about the Adams and it's like, okay, that was that
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: was a huge move I needed them to make. But
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: I love the pick too because I think Stafford was
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: actually bad last year. Like, I don't think he had
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: that good of a season. I thought he had a
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: bunch of injuries that they kind of covered up that
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: it was ailing him. You saw just a different Stafford
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: after that Bills game. Right, that game with their offense
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: was so explosive. He basically did nothing three or four
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: weeks following that because I think he was battling three stuff.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: So my view of this is the same as what
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: he just said. It's like Stafford, veteran quarterback primus career,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: has the weapons coming off what I perceived as a
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: down year.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Fifty to one. I'd take that anytime on a guy
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: like him.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: All Right, my second pick.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: Wait, doesn't he doesn't he get back to back?
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Are we not doing so let's saying that Brandon's going
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: last every time? Not doing it. We're not doing a
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: snake draft. Start my second pick. I am gonna go
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: with Trevor Lawrence fifty to one. I don't I don't know.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: That was next pick from me.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: I should I should have gone.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: I don't love Trevor Lawrence. He hasn't lived up to expectations.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: But given the division, given the coaching changes, given the
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: added talent, how good Brian Thomas Junior was last year,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: can Travis Hunter be anything close to what the expectations are?
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: He'll certainly have the weapons and the opportunity, and if
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: he's remotely close to what he was a couple of
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: years ago when they won the division and made the playoffs,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: he's going to be in a position he'll have a
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: puncher's chance to win this if they end up winning
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: their division, because everyone is expecting it to be c. J.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Stroud and the Texans. So, you know, looking for value,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I'll take trem Lawrence.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: It gets gross once you start getting down here, so
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I get really, I just I'm so burned by him
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I just need to see him have a full season
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: healthy and you know, be competible in an offense. Because
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: it sounds crazy, but Mac Jones came in and Brian
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Thompson Junior played better, and that team looked like they
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: played better. So that's not you don't want me to
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: be in the same mindset of saying Mac Jones came
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: in and did better than you at your job. So
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, this is a massive, massive year, and he's
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: a quarterback who's very lucky that they are playing in Jacksonville.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: If he played in any type of other big market,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: this man would be getting crucified almost every offseason. So big,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: big year upcoming for Jacksonville and Trevor Lawrence. My pick, Chad,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I feel like Brandon talked about it a little bit.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: It's that year two quarterback, right, That's where you get
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: these crazy long shide values, Like one of my best
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: bets in my career, Mahomes fifty to one. The next
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: year Lamar fifty to one. Like that was a really
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: fun run of these guys making their first year starts,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: getting really good long shot odds before the public and
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: the books caught up to it. I'm looking at this list, Chat,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: It's hard to imagine any of these quarterbacks being like
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: those two. It really is, like, really, Penis is about
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: to take that next step I can't do it. The
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: one guy I can do it with, just because the
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: odds are so insane. They've come down a little bit too.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Is bon Knicks. I bet this one. He was one
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: hundred to one, down to eighty to one. Now he's
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: seventy five to one. It's just really about Sean Payton
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: in that offense. Like if bon Nicks is who he
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: thinks he can be, all of a sudden, it really
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: is an offense that runs through him. This kid throws
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: for forty touchdowns, runs for ten, maybe twelve touchdowns, explosive year,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: that team somehow wins the division, first time someone outside
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs wins that division. Bo next to me could
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: easily win this award, Like he has all the tools,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: has the coaching staff. It's just do we really believe
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: in bon Nicks? Was last year simply a fluke?
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Was that?
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Literally the peak of bon Knicks was what we saw
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: last year? Yeah, that's a risk, but at seventy five
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: to one, I don't care burning that money. So to me,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I like those long shot odds on a year two
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: quarterback that potentially the storyline is there to take that
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: next step and everything you've seen this offseason, him working
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: on his throwing motion, working on his feet. It's all
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: there laid out. Is it a flash in the pan
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: from last season? I don't know, Cheb, but I like
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: that number. Seventy five to one.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Two other quarterbacks in his division have odds between five
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: to one and twenty to one, so he will have
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: to exceed the preseason expectations of two other quarterbacks, Patrick
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Mahomes and Justin Herbert Brandon your last choice for MVP.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I looked at those sophomore quarterbacks too. We obviously
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: have the six guys drafted last year. JJ McCarthy is
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: not a sophomore quarterback. He's basically a rookie, but in
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: a good position if Minnesota wins. Well, again, we saw
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: Darnold kind of get like the I don't know to.
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: See in the conversation.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: No, he was not, but if you're being talked about
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: in the conversation, maybe I could see Panics maybe get
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: into that spot. Drake London, Kyle Pitts, Bijon Robinson, and
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: again similar to your Trevor Lawrence pick Chad soft division,
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: very winnable division, very good chance to get to twelve
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: thirteen wins. If things go, well there, Drake may that
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: was my favorite quarterback of the choices last year. I
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: like a lot of the Patriots, we'll talk about them
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: in a second. Lawrence was who I was hoping to
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: take here. So I love that pick. I think that's
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: as much a pick on Liam Cohen as it is
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: on Trevor Lawrence. Bringing in the coach that last year
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: got Baker Mayfield to forty five hundred yards and forty
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: one touchdowns. If Trevor Lawrence does that and then they
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: win the division and get in contention, he's going to
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: get that Golden Boy bump into the MVP conversation. All right,
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to decide if I want to make like
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: a realistic long shot pick or just a long shot
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: long shot pick, and I'm last I'm doing both. Okay,
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Caler Murray, that's my pick. Caller Murray is fifty to one.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: This is my more realistic one. Kyler's been in the
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: MVP conversation at the midpoint of the season, like two
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: previous times. He's just tiny and then he gets hurt
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: and then that's it. But we've just been watching Lamar
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: Jackson the last couple of years do the thing where
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: you get the highlight reel runs, you make the crazy
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: you know plays very like TikTok generation sort of thing.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Just gave me the three or four big plays of
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: the game and grab my attention. Kyler's always going to
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: have that. You now have back to back years tat
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: McMillan with Marvin Harrison Junior, plus the tight end that
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: the coaching staff is young, but the team has been
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: slowly rounding in the form. I'll admit what I don't
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: love here is it's a tough path to win a
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: lot of games. You gotta win a lot of games
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: win MVP, and I don't know if I trust the
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: defense yet.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: And we've been.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: Talking about multiple teams in that division already, so that's
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: not great. I would love Kyler Murray better if it
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: was in a more winnable division. But four thousand yards,
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: twenty five scores, five six seven hund rushing yards and
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: some scores and those highlight plays, the scramble around makes
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: something out of nothing. That's the plane. Speaking of which
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: similar style player, Chad, You're either gonna love this and
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: bett it immediately or absolutely hate it and kick me
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: off the podcast. I'm going off the board two hundred
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: and fifty to one for a starting quarterback in the
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: NFL named Justin Fields. Justin Fields of the New York
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Football Jets, there is your Lamar Jackson long shot. If
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: he starts all year and stays healthy, that's the key.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: He could get a thousand yards rushing. He probably will
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: get a thousand yards rushing and ten scores. We've seen
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson, We've seen Cam Newton probably a more a
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: better candidate for Justin the Fields running quarterbacks in quarters
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: sort of sprak the MVP formula. I like what the
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: Jets did bringing in Aaron Glenn, bringing a new coaching
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: staff they believe in. There's a lot of talent on defense.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: Glenn can get them back in the right track. There's
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: Garrett Wilson and Bresee Hall on offense, throw weapons. They've
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: invested a lot in the offensive line. I think Fields
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: is an interesting flyer for the team that probably is
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: going to go very terribly. Probably this will go in
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: your MVP portfolio and you'll be like, man, I can't
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: believe I made that stupid bet, But just in case,
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: that's what I thought. Three years ago. I bet Trey
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: Lance because I just wanted any Shanahan quarterback fifty to one.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: And not only did Trey Lance not win MVP, he
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: didn't even start. He got benched and traded and was
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: like the third string Cowboys quarterback. And it was in
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Action app top of my list as my top future
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: as the futures guy at Action Network. But the next
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: year I went back to the well with Brock Purty
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: fifty to one. He didn't win either, but it was
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: a great pick and a great value that gave me
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: a lot of shots later in the season. Fields, if
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: he actually plays decently and gets his runs and gets
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: the highlights. Two hundred and fifty to one for a
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: decent NFL starting quarterback is just too long for an
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: MVP pick. We know it's a quarterback. There are only
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: thirty two of them. That's only if you count like
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Cleveland and some of the teams that didn't even have
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: real guys. So justin Fields is the long shot of
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: long shots. Chad, do you love me or hate me?
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: You couldn't even make that whole pitch without your voice cracking,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: because you know how absurd the idea really is. That
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: is what I think of it. I feel like whenever
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: water is underneath your house has slowly seeped into your
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: brain because it's outrageous. I do love listen. I love
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: the Stafford pick. I like the Dak pick. I like
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: the Prety pick. Trevor Lawrence is a fun little taste.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I agree with you, Simon, like I was looking at
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: the odds sort of that we have in front of
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: us here, I was debating between Drake May and bo Nix.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about some coaching changes, so I
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: don't want to go too too deep into Drake May,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: soh feels is off the board for me. Kyleer Erray
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: is interesting. I just think he's not gonna be better.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: His team is not gonna be better than the Niners.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: They won't be better than the Rams, in my opinion.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: So I'd rather invest in the other two. But I
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: like the conversation. That's a fun conversation. Coaching coordinator changes
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: this offseason, Brandon, that you think you love that have
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: the biggest impact, positively or negatively on Super Bowl future values.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Any way you'd like to slice it, you start.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I when I get wrapped up for the beginning
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: of the new football season, coaching and offensive line are
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: the two areas that I think are the are the
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: biggest edge. Betters can have big picture on a team
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: going into a season. Who got the big coaching change
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: that's gonna help the team? Then raise the floor or
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: raise the ceiling? Who got the trenches upgrade? And I
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: think the answer to both of those questions this year,
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: Chad is your Chicago Bears. Chicago and Ben Johnson. I
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: know it's all the hype. I know that Bears are
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: always the offseason champs. This season, I think it's actually
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: legit Ben Johnson with the culture change that he's going
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: to bring to the locker room, with the play calling.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: I think with the aggression that he's going to bring
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: from the Dan Campbell Tree, I think maybe he was
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: the aggression, but it's not just Ben Johnson. And that's
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: part of the reason I love this. You never know
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: what happens when you go from like the star play
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: caller to the head coach. Dennis Allen. I love the
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: rejected failed head coach back to just humbling myself to
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: become a humble, little defensive coordinator. Again, Dennis Allen's a
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: fantastic defensive coordinator and there's talent to work with. There
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: I'm intrigued to I don't know a lot about Declan Doyle.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: He's the new offensive coordinator. He was a tight ends
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: coach for Denver and the Saints before that. Tight ends
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: coach is what Ben Johnson was. We're seeing more and
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: more tight ends coaches as tight ends become versatile weapons.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: Are you in line or are you out split out wide?
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Are you receiving? Are you blocking? Like tight end coaches
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: are kind of touching a lot of parts of the offense,
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: so they bring a lot of versatility and new ideas
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: to an offense as well. So look, we know I
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: just said earlier, I'm a Minnesota sports fan.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: I am not a Bears fan, even though.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: I live in this area here, the area is buzzing
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: about Chicago coaching. And between that and the huge investment
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: in the offensive line and Grady jarr and the defensive line,
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: like they are pressing all my buttons.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: And I don't know how. I know.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: The schedule is daunting, the road schedule, oh my goodness,
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: Like you can't really make it much harder than that.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: But Chicago's coaching and investment in the line, I don't
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: know how I cannot be in on this team going ahead.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Yesterday I got a text from you know. I've got
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: my Chicago text chain, and the text yesterday was the
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: anatomy of the Bears season, which starts with your fans
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: are excited for the season, season ends in disaster, fans
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: sad and depressed. Off season hype videos. So we are
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: in the middle of the off season hype video fans
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: excited for the season phase Brandon from your mouth to
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: God's ear, like, let's let's make it happen. And by
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: the way, Chicago's got a direct pipeline to God right now,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: so we should definitely, should definitely be taking advantage of that.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: There's a great story, I think in the New York
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Times today about how long can Chicago hype for the
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Pope last? So we're already getting to the point where
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: we know the hype for the Pope in Chicago is
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: not going to last, so we might as well use
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: it for all we can and try to get as
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: many prayers in for the Bears before everyone has the
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Pope backlash. Simon coaching change coaching, coaching that are positive, negative,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: impacting future odds for you.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: First, I want to know how terrified you were when
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: there feels like there's only one reporter left in this
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: whole entire world. It happens to be your boy, Seth.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Were you terrified when he texted you, Hey, doing a
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: story on the Bears?
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: You're like, holy shit, this is bad.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: You do not want him going around your team, So, likeily,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I imagine that conversation.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Look, we're gonna have Seth on the show to talk
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: about his book for those For those who don't know,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Simon is talking about Seth Wickersham, who's one of my
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: closest friends, and he has a book coming out in
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: the fall in September called American King, The Biography of
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: a Quarterback. I've read it. It's brilliant. It's so brilliant that,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: like it is sent me into a six week spiral
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: about the book I'm working on and how can I
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: make it as good as Seth's. I swear to god,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: we've been talking about this. It's so freaking good. And
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: he's with Caleb Williams in his pre draft process, and
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: then during his season with the Bears, he goes in
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: detail with John Elway, Steve Young, Warren Moon, he goes
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: back to Wayie Tittle like it is, it is an
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: amazing book, and I hope everyone buys it and he
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: will come out and talk about the book.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: Simon.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I knew about this already, because you know, Seth had
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: been telling me about the book for three years. We
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: had had lunched many many times where he told me
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: what he had on Caleb Williams. That the news came
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: out last week from Seth that Caleb wasn't watching film
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: with Shane Waldron, wasn't getting direction, had really connected with
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell from the Vikings, was hoping to get drafted
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: by the Vikings. Caleb's dad was trying to pull sort
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: of an Archie Manning and get his get the Bears
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: to not draft Caleb Williams and get him drafted by
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: somebody else. This week, Ben Johnson acknowledged all that, said,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: we don't mind that reputation. This is what we're here
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: to turn around. I thought he handled it great. Caleb
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: hasn't said anything about it. Seth blew up last week.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: He and I were on the phone when he was
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: in the middle of Allah's media stuff. I was in Lexington, Kentucky.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: It's great, It's totally great. I got a text from
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: my son when I was on the road because all
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: this was breaking when I was on the road, and
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: who obviously he knows Seth very very well. The text
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: was this shit from Seth is so fucking annoying. All
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I'm getting is Caleb Williams hates the Bears in my timeline.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: So that's how it landed in my house as a
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: bear stand.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: And I'm the other way where it made me so happy,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: where it's like we all knew something was holding back
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams last year, and when you go through the
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: numbers and just going through last season, it's incredible what
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: he did. And that's why I'm still well. I still
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: hasn't have not mud, still have him above Jane Daniels,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: and I'm still very excited. And I know that to
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: me the slam dung higher of the offseason. It's what
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: we just said, it's Ben Johnson, right, Like the fact
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: that he has him now it changes everything and you know,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: for me, minds me a little more boring, and that's
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: how I like it.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: Here.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: It's gotta be Brian Schottenheira, like, I love everything about
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: this move for Dallas because he is what people view
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: as Jerry's lap dog and the disrespect he got from
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: that hire. Even Jerry disrespected in his hiring process.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: What do you call him? The basically called him like
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: he was never the coach.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Now he is the coach, and he's the cheap version
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: of Mike McCarthy.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, and I view this as a net positive because
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: nothing's really gonna change much there. Their offense is going
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: to be the exact same. But now we have a
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: guy that to me is already being doubted by the public.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: And you mean, I mean Chad me and you made
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: that joke instantly. I can't wait to better this guy
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: in the regular season. The playoffs, he just gonna be like
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: his daddy, Like, that's when we're gonna fade this kid
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: when he gets the playoffs. So the jokes are already there.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: But to me, the team that jumps out to me
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: is a guy that you know I talk all the
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: time as an Eagles fan. I've hate a lot of
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: our hires the past, one Nick Siriani, who just won
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: me a super Bowl. You want to head you want
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: to hate your head coach. That's the best outcome for
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: most of these teams, For Dallas and their fan base,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: I think this is perfect. No one likes the Brian
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Scheiner seat and I are hire they're being doubted. We
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: talked like, I'm I'm all in on this team. That
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: one jumped out to me though, of just Dak gonna
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: be comfortable in this offense. Still, the fact that this
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: guy is kind of being bashed on by the media.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Those tends to be the coaches that work out, not
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: the guys that we all love and a door coming
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: to the season.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Guys, the answer is, Robert Salah to the Etransisco forty
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: nine ers. As much as I love Ben Johnson and
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: believe me like I'm all in on Ben Johnson and
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, I think the division is terribly hard. I'm
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: not quite sure the defense is good enough.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Yet.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: I think they're schedule is just a tragedy and the
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: NFL should have thought harder. If they're going to put
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: their highest profile new hire with a transcendent, potentially talent
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: at quarterback, give him a freaking break in the schedule.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Robert Sala going back to that defense after the just
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: mess that was the New York Jets, feeling liberated from
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: the New York media, from the Johnson family, from the
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: quarterback drama, that defense when Robert Sala was coaching, that
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: defense for the Jets was elite. We saw how bad
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: they got after he left, and he was doing that
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: with every obstacle. He was handcuffed by this team. He
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: gets to go back to San Francisco with a talented
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: defense and a coach who will trust in him implicitly,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: and a lot of guys on that team who remember
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: what it was like when he was there, and he
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: was so freaking good and so smart, and the way
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: he was so intense on that sideline. He got to
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: be himself as a defensive coroner. He couldn't do that
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: as a head coach with the Jets. Give me Robert
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Sala San Francisco, forty niners. You guys shake their heads.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was my second pick as well, and frankly,
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: it's a one be more than a number two. We
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: talked about this just before we started the show. San
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: Francisco is my very first bet of the new NFL
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: season to win the Super Bowl next year. I know
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: you guys are in on them as well. We forget
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: because it's been a few years now. Number One, the
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: Jets defense just last year was great with Robert Sala
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: then they got rid of him and it fell completely
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: off a cliff. But he was that good for them
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: before that.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: Though.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: The thing we forget, as much as we give Kyle
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Shanahan credit and as good as the offense, Ala says,
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: their defense actually ranked higher than the offense in the
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: years that Sala was there. And it's not like the
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: offense was bad. That's just how great, how elite the
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: defense was. So you're right, it's not the same names anymore,
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: but there's still a lot of talent there. They lost
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: a ton, a ton of injury games last year, so
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: just getting back healthy, I think they to me remind
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: me that the reason I picked them was I alway
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: was due in like January. Okay, who will be next
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: year's what's the team where it's hot right now? Who's
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: next year's Commanders? Who is next year's Eagles? That sort
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: of thing. I think that the Miners are next year's Eagles.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: I think getting that new voice in to lead the defense,
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: a new old voice in their case, just like the
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: Eagles did, and then getting healthy again and a team
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: that just the stock is too low because of the
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: way the season ended, just like the Eagles had the
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: previous year where the Eagles remember fell apart and we
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: didn't even know we're going to keep next year Yanni,
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: You're going to fire him, And we even't got that.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: A little bit into the season.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: It was two and two starting out, I think, and
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: we didn't know if they're going to be any good.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: They got to that bye a week and everything is
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: clicked in the place, and off they went. Obviously, McCaffrey
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: was out last season. That's the Saquon Barkley of the team.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Getting him back. We say running backs don't matter, but
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: a couple of them really do matter and change everything
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: about an offense getting him back in there, getting Trent
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: Williams back healthy on the line. I'm not worried about
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: losing Deebo Samuel. They've got plenty of other options. They
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: were preparing for that anyway. I think San Francisco to
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: me is a co favorite in the NFC.
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: Like I don't even think that they are a sleeper.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: I would just put them with Philadelphia and a head
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: of Detroit or other teams in the NFC. So I
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: think the revamp defense, the renewed defense is big there.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: I really like Clint Kubiak, the offensive coordinator, hired in Seattle.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: I wanted to be excited about them with him and
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: with Mike McDonald, and then they were like, yeah, but
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: we're not really sure we're doing. Goodbye Gino and goodbye DK.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: That was my other Super Bowl bet. I'm already just
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: kind of counting that ticket as a loss because I
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: don't know what's happening. They decided they're in transition when
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: I thought that they had a possible contender there, but
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: to my San Francisco pick, to our San Francisco pick.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: The one thing I did love about it was that
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: I really like Seattle right there in the division. So okay, well,
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: Seattle's worst. I guess San Francisco gave a couple easier
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: wins in the division maybe as well. So those were
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: the coordinator names that really caught my eye. That the
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: coaching names, Simon, I guess I'm proving your point. I
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: did not like Brian Schottenheimer or Matt Eberflus. I know,
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: I like the rehire of the defense. These just feel
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: like kind of retread names that gave up in the cycle.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: But that's your point, that's the narrative thing. And it
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: is a little crazy that Dak is forty five to
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: one MVP, as good as he is, as good a
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: weapons as they have with George Pickens now. So yeah,
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: I think what you said is interesting. We'll have to
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: kind of rethink the narrative because it does feel like
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: a very low spot on perception on the Cowboys.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would just say too, the forty nine ers.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: The biggest thing, My biggest worry is.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: The Eagles nailed the fucking draft like they nailed the draft.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: So to me, the forty nine ers, that's been the
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: kind of the Achilles heel these last couple years is
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Lynch has not been nailing the draft like he was
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: in the early twenty twenties, right, And for a team
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: like them that have to.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Pay these top talent guys, you have to nail the draft.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: So I'm really excited to see what's all I can
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: do with these young guys, especially the secondary that they
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: have in San Francisco. So I'm right there with you,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: my I mean, we got to talk about it, right.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: The best, the best coaching higher to me, is up
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: in New England, a guy we all love, is it not?
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: What do you say, Chad?
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, like I just asked you who the
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: best coaching Hier was. He gave me ten minutes on
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Brian fucking Schottenheimer. And now at the end of this
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: we're going to Mike Vrabel. Of course, Mike Vrabel is
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: a better higher than Brian Schottenheimer.
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: I'm true.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Like I'm just thinking, like, do I think Robert sala
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: is a better piece to get the forty nine ers
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: over the top and make them more of a Super
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Bowl contender? Do I think Mike Vrabel is making the
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Patriots a super Bowl contender right now? Maybe?
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: There you go, that's right.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: That's why I just think he can change the whole culture.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: So that's why I love it so much.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Where it's like he got first over Brian Schottenheimer.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: No, because the Brian shine he was so ever left field.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: People knew the Vrabel conversation was coming because you teased
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: the earlier. So I didn't want to start with him
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: just because people knew it was coming. But it's uh,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: it's the move that just jumped out to both of us.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: We loved it so much, you know, my sick mind,
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: I was thinking of all the ways we could get
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: rid of Sirianni. After that Week four when we were
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: two and two. I was like, oh my god, fire,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: this motherfucker. Bring me in Vrabel, give me Vrabel right now.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: We'll win a super Bowl this season. Nah, I'm sorry,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni. You're you're the man, uh the Rael.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Well here's the thing, though, here's the thing right now,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: If you could have Mike Rabel for the next five
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: years or Nick Sirianni for the next five bye.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: So I don't like I don't like Sirianne as a person.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: That's my issue.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: So I can't the blinds are too blurred, like he
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: with that whole thing. We talked shit to Eagles fans
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: and then rather than owning up to it at the
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: press conference, he brought his kids out chet.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: I was out forever. He just that totally rubbed me
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: the wrong way.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: And I respect him as a coach and as a
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: man obviously, but as just a general person, I just
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: do not like him as Rabel. As a general person,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: I'd be boys with Rabel. I'd pack a dip dip
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: lip with Rabel. Rabel is that man, that dude. He's
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: a man's man. And like the fact that you know,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: this offensive lineman they drafted was a Will Howard that
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: he was blocking with him, like getting a feel for him,
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: see how he could work his hands in his body.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Oh I love that. Yeah, Like that's the stupid ship.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: As a football fan, I just love to hear. So
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: you know that one jumps out right away where it's
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: like he can come in put his identity in this team.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Like you just said, Chad, they probably won't win this year, right,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: we all agree Drake May is a ton of talent.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: He would have to take an insane jump in year
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: two because they just don't have the weapons on the
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: outside in my opinion to really factor into that that
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: division with the Bills. But crazier things have happened, right,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: so you know Vrabel, to me, that's that's the higher
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: that Newland kept. I feel like they're doing everything wrong
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: after the Brady air, this feels like the first of
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: two first right moves right, taking Drake May, then following
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: up getting Rable the next year. So I mean as
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Anderson's take on it, because you know, I think you
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: like Rabel as well, but not too many of us
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: hate a guy who wins us tons of money every time.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: He's an underdog is a better that's right?
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's such an overachiever. So I'm of
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: two minds on it. I think here's what I want
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: from Mike Brabel. I would love to hire Mike Rabel
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: as the head coach on a three year deal, and
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: then you have to leave and go to a different
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: team because I think he is a floor raiser, but
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: I do not think he is a ceiling raiser.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: Interesting.
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: I think Rabel is the guy you.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: Want to bring in, like he bring him in to
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: remake your restaurant and your business and get that everything going.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: But then you need Sirianni to get the super Bowl
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: after that, like you need innovation and creativity. I don't
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: love how Rabel manages games, and I know we over
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: index on that from a fans standpoint. Coaching is a
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: lot more than that. But I think the way that
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: he sets up the team it's very It's what you love, Simon,
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: That's what we love as football fans. It's old school,
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: it's smash mouth, it's run first. I think he's perfect
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: for this Patriots team right now. A little bit of Belichick,
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: still a little bit of that flavor still, and a
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: team that just needs to raise the floor. So I'm
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: gonna use this to launch into We're doing my off
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: season hot takes.
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: Here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna put my off
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: season hot takes all into one take.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: I think the Patriots can be this year's Commanders, and
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: I think the Commanders might be this year's Texans. Here's
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: what I mean. Patriots floor raising. That's what we saw
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: with the Commanders last year. They had a ton of
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: salary cap and then they spent it on just dudes everywhere,
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: and I was like, really, like, go get a couple
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: real names in here. It turned out the dudes everywhere
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: making the offensive line much better, just adding veterans on
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: the defense, Bobby Wagner and Frankie lou Who. Those dudes
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: raised the floor, and Jane Daniels raised the ceiling, and
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: the new coaching staff gave them an opportunity that fits
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: the formula.
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: Here.
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: The Patriots still lack talent. You're right, I don't know
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: that this is not a Super Bowl pick. This is
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: maybe a worse to first Division winner pick. I think
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: the Bills have a little more holes in the roster
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: then they might look. I know, man, much you won't
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: like to hear it, but I know he's down on
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: them because of we were doing hard knocks. We're getting
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: coming off the MVP season. There's a lot of reason
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: that the Bills this maybe isn't the Bill's year. They're
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: kind of transitioning. Meanwhile, the Patriots add Stefon Digs at receiver.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: Not a lot left, but something there back in the division.
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: He knows.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: I love Kyle Williams from the draft. I thought he
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: was a really good pick for there. Another receiver they
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: drafted Trevion Henderson. You mentioned Will Campbell, the lineman. They
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: brought in Morgan Moses on the line. They paid big
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: money for Milton Williams, who was fantastic in the playoffs.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: On the defensive line, Carlton Davis probably the best cornerback available.
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: Just lots of talent everywhere. So Vrabel raised the floor.
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: Talent everywhere, raising the floor, Drake May, can you raise
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: the ceiling? Can you be Jane Daniels this year? And
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: I don't help out again, not Super Bowl ceiling, but
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: this to me, this is a screams over this year
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: as an over team and a possible if they can
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: get things right. Division push where we talked about fields
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: and the Jets, but the reality is They're probably not
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: going to be that good. The Dolphins are downswing. I
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: think the Bills are certainly not upswing. So maybe you
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: think they stay the same, But in the NFL, you
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: don't usually stay the same. You go one direction or
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: the other, and I think that they are going the
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: wrong direction. The Commanders, I think might be this year's Texans,
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: the team that is all hype.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: We all got excited.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: We watched what was I think five straight one score victories.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: At the end of the season. They knocked off the Lions. Congrats.
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: The Lions were playing the three of us on defense
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: at the end of the season. Like somebody was knocking
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: off the Lions. They just happened to be there for it.
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: They get the big trade for the receiver, Stefan Diggs
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: for the Texans, Deeba Stamuel for the Commanders. Oh, we
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: got the new weapon for our new shiny young quarterback toy.
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: That's the star, Well, Lizzie, because CJ.
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: Stroud was the big sleep for MVP last year and
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: then he kept sleeping all season long and never really
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: woke up and had a great season.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: Is that.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels. I like Jade Daniels, but growth is not linear.
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: You don't just become a superstar and that's it. You're
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: gonna take some lumps along the way. I wanted them
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: to continue to add up the roster this year. They
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: did the big splash. They put everything in on Laramie
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: tunsel on a trade. Laramie Tunseel was really not great
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: last season. They're missing Sam Cosmia on the line.
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: The line got a lot worse than the ear went on.
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: The defense still lacks a lot of talent. I don't
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: know if the Commanders are gonna be as hype as
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: everyone thinks they are. I think they could disappoint like
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: the Texans, and I think the Patriots might be this
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: year's Commanders instead.
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  Speaker 1: Look Simon, a few weeks ago, we said the Patriots
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: at what was it sixteen one or thirty to one?
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  Speaker 1: It was some outrageous numbers.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, just to win their division, but it was crazy
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  Speaker 3: it was.
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  Speaker 1: But to win their division, it was like an outrageous.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't that. I think it was seven or eight
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  Speaker 3: to one.
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  Speaker 1: I think that was the Titans. I don't know if
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: someone can look up and put it all.
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  Speaker 2: That now, because the Patriots are way down brother. Now
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: they've been bet down since we even talked about it,
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  Speaker 2: Like after I moved.
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  Speaker 1: I think the time it was pretty long odds whatever.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: It was like, the Bills are minus two seventy five
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  Speaker 1: to win the AFC East, and we love the Patriots
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: and got a little blowback for it. We still like
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: the Titans more to win the AFC South if we're
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: looking at sort of worse the first. But I don't
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: mind what Brandon is saying about the Patriots at all.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: I don't mind.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: But I really love what he's saying about Commanders because
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: I'm of the same exact mentality of him. It's just
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: like they they came out of nowhere, shocked the world,
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: and now everyone's just like, well, that's who they're going
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: to be now. Jane Daniels, he's a top five quarterback.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: This is a team that every year they're gonna win
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: this division or fight to win this division. It's just like,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: what are you just talking about. It's never that easy.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: You peak in value, peak in value. That's why when
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: we talked about these three guys the Top, the Lamar,
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: the Mahomes, the Josh Allen, they're the unicorns. They're the
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: guys every year that get you ten wins, and that's
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: just not normal, right, there's just ups and down. So
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: what he's talking about here, this is why I love Dallas.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: It's like everyone's all in on the Eagles, super winning team.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Everyone's all in on the you shining New twenty the Commanders.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Everyone has left Dallas for dead. Dallas is no worse
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: off than they were last year when they were plus
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: one point thirty at this point to win the NFC East.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: So it's just that's why I love this job.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: Ched. It's just overreaction.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: It's just last year, the amount of shit I took
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: for talking about the Eagles being a top three team
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: coming into the season because ESPN had them ranked twelfth
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: or thirteenth. It's what do you people want from me?
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: It's like, this is my job to make a living
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: doing this. It's it's I'm never biased. I'm happy to
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: take Dallas right as an Eagles fan. I am happy
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: to get Dallas. Why because I know it's a smart bet.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: It's all about the values here. So everything you just
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: said about the Commanders, I am. We're on the exact
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: same page about It's just this this team at everything
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: break right for them, Jad and Daniels was the best
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: fourth down quarterback you might have ever seen.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: The issue of the NFL.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: So much regression is coming to that team. So everything
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: you just talked about, it's it's it's dead on in
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: my opinion about the Commanders.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Brandon, what are the odds for the Patriots to win
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: the division right now?
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  Speaker 4: They're the best number out there right now is a
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: plus six fifty plus plus five six hundred depending on
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: your book, and a plus six fifty as the best.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, look, we've unpacked a lot of stuff
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: here today. We've done our hot takes. We've done our
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: NFL MVPs, We've done our Super Bowl futures. We did
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: our draft of NFL MVPs. I like it. I like
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: where we landed. Hopefully, Brandon, you've got your goloshes and
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: your apartment. Travail's will clean themselves up real real soon.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Brandon Anderson, thank you for joining everyone listening to Brandon
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