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Soto Offered $660M · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
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all things Major League Baseball.
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Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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It. All starts right now.
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This episode 489 I'll be your host Kyle Cordon.
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I'm here with my Co host Nate Reyes.
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Nate. Heyo, heyo, heyo.
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Happy Monday, folks. Welcome back.
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Welcome back. We've got we've got good stuff
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so far. It's offseason.
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Good stuff. I think good stuff today, good
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stuff so far this offseason. Like there was maybe 1 AP one
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episode that was that a little bit of a low overall I'm I'm
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delightfully surprised with our offseason.
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And I think it's only going to get better because I think if
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there's any truth to what you and I were talking about maybe a
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week or two ago where we were saying that we had a feeling
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that some of these, sure, you're going to have your smaller names
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getting signed, getting traded, so on and so forth.
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But I think you and I and I, I would venture, say a lot of
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people out there are optimistic that some of these bigger name
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deals are going to get done closer to like maybe by the end
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of the year given the way last offseason went.
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Like nobody wants a repeat of that.
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Nobody wants that. I think people are going to have
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some Christmas gifts that they're very, very excited
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about. I hope so.
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I mean, the biggest Christmas gift of them all.
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I think we can just go ahead and.
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Say yeah, yeah. Possibly the biggest one we're
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going to see maybe in the next decade.
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It's happening right now, folks. Juan Soto.
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Juan Soto. The sweepstakes continue.
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The latest we have as baseball fans reported is that the Mets.
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It was reported that the Mets of the there was four teams that he
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was meeting with. It was the Red Sox, the Blue
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Jays, the Mets and the Yankees, and the Mets are the only team
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that we have heard a report on in terms of a number, and it
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was, again, cannot stress this enough, reported $660 million.
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Nate thoughts? We, we, we knew this was
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happening. We knew that the Mets were going
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to offer whatever he wanted. We knew that this is, if you're
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a Mets fan, you are. This is the dream scenario.
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This is more of a dream scenario than when Steve Cohen officially
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bought the team and had his first offseason.
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Like, this is a payroll that is what they have 170 + 1,000,000
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dollars of room compared to 2024's payroll.
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And we know that Steve Cohen has come out and said multiple times
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every year that it doesn't matter.
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He's willing to pay to win, so he could very well go over
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2024's #170 mil of room left. There's plenty that they can do.
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So much came off the books. I think it's ideal that I think
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it's ideal for baseball that this is a top three player in
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the game. Can we say that?
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Can we, can we talk about this a little bit?
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I'm glad you brought that up. And I'm not, I'm not necessarily
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disputing that because I've, I've offered more than my fair
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share of, of Soto praise and rightfully so generational
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talent. There's people that scoff at
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that, which I think is silly because if you look at what he's
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done. To.
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This point in his career and what he's capable of doing he is
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I mean, and we'll even touch on a little later with the Hall of
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Fame ballot pretty much go ahead and chalk him up as a Hall of
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Famer. We can just go ahead and and and
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assume that's going to be the case.
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But can we, can we talk for just like a second about this $660
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million Because look, the reality is we're.
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Doing it a bit. The React.
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Let's say that again. We overdoing it a bit, you
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think? I mean, we're pushing Ohtani
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money for a guy that I mean, let's just call a spade a spade
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is for all intents and purposes a league average outfielder.
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Big picture wise, sure, you can look at the Super ultra advanced
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analytics to to maybe stay make a case otherwise, but just you
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know on paper is not going to not going to blow you away with
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this defense does not have speed He's there's.
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Tools. There's tools missing.
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There's tools missing. He can't pitch.
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He's not going to have the same international draws.
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Otani as as as electric as that region of the world is with
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baseball, the it's just a matter of fact that he is not going to
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have the same type of pull internationally as Shohei Otani
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does. And you have to take into
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account the fact that he's not going to be, he's not even going
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to be sniffing the revenue that Otani brings in.
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And we're talking about a $660 million offer.
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Reported, Yeah. And let me let me let me further
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clarify or further support where you stand for anybody that's new
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to listening. Kyle is in the DC area.
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Kyle has been able to be right down the street from the for the
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first half of Soto's career and gotten a witness first hand how
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special he is. So whatever we say today is not
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from a position of not liking Soto.
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I think you and I are very much in the Soto camp.
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I just said I think he's the top three player in the game.
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So and I would agree. Moving forward, I agree dude, I
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agree. I think we got to assume that
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the very least this is a 12 year deal.
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Whatever he gets is a 12 year. At the very, very least,
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probably 13 or 14 years. And I'd say at least half of
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those years are going to be spent as a full time DH.
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Yeah, when you had to consider that, yeah.
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Defensively, DC is a big outfield.
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San Diego and Yankee Stadium are very much some of the smallest
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right fields you can play and it was still average at best to
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below average. City Field is a big outfield.
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Wow. We're just, we're just making
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hints at at later topics all throughout this thing in the
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early going, aren't we? We kind of are just.
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Talking about big out, talking about big outfields a little bit
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later. Big right field.
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It's a big right field. Now.
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Are they willing to make changes?
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Probably they have before. Do they?
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Do they make adjustments and say let's make this more of a
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hiddenly hit hitter friendly side for our brand new lefty
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that we're getting like maybe I don't know.
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But either way, defensively, that's a big outfield to to
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manhandle and I think he's going to be a full time DH and.
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To clarify, you're saying like back like back?
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I would say post 30 years old at the very at the very latest, I
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think he's going to be a full time DH because look at like a
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Giancarlo Stanton. Like we watched really solid
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defense in right field in Miami. He looked pretty good.
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Didn't he win a Gold Glove? I think he did really well in
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right field. And now we've now injury wise,
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I'm not saying that like athletically they're on the same
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level, but I'm not going to sit here and pretend that Soto's
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going to get better at right field.
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I'm not going to sit here and pretend that he's going to get
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faster and more athletic. I'm not going to pretend that
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the arm is going to get stronger.
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You know what I mean? So that's something to consider
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when you talk about plugging up ADH in a game where I think it's
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trended more towards DH being used as 1/2 day off or you know,
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not having a full time DH has created some flexibility with a
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lot of line UPS. So it's it is an interesting
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argument. I do feel you there.
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But again, just going back to the Mets and in their position
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right now, there's there's never a better I, I can't remember in
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my lifetime a better time for the Mets to push all chips to
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the middle of the table. And and let me just circle back
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on my point earlier. This is not in me maybe balking
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at the 660 mark. That's that's not a reflection
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of who I think Sotowiz is a player, what I think he
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deserves. It's more about.
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When you draw the line. Like when, when you compare and
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and I know it, it's we're not talking about Otani here, but
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given that that deal basically just happened like we're not
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even what a year removed from, from that being from, from that
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going down. Sure.
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But even then it's deferred. So it's like, I don't know if
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we're. No, I understand.
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This is worse. Yeah, that's another element to
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this whole thing, because you just know, yeah, I, I, there's
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no situation where I can convince myself that Juan Soto's
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taking a single dime of deferred money.
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I just, I'm, I'm trying. I I just can't, I can't bring
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myself to say that. But at the end of the day,
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though, because this again, report is coming from the the
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direction of the Mets, it's very it's quite possible that Cohen
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doesn't necessarily view Soto as a player worth that much.
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Maybe he's looking at the numbers and saying, you know,
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we're talking revenue here. He's not bringing in Otani
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revenue, but let's just blow everybody else out of the water.
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So it's not even a a choice that he has to make.
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If that's the case, then so be it.
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But it if we're going to get into this bidding war because we
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actually, and when I say we, I'm talking about these teams that
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are reportedly in the mix again, Mets, Red Sox, Yankees, Blue
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Jays, throw the blue, throw the Dodgers in there, the Blue Jays.
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If we're going to start getting into this bidding war, because
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we think that like you're going to get a similar return, I would
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just caution you to maybe look yourself in the mirror and say,
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again, going back to a point we made, just an episode or a point
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we made an episode or two ago is like if it gets, if it gets much
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higher than that, maybe think about how else you could
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allocate that money because that is a lot of.
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Money, yeah, I get and and, you know.
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Do I want want Soto? Yes, that's.
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Right, that's. Ultimately, that's the.
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We've had this conversation a few episodes ago where you'd be,
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you'd be crazy to say out loud that you would, you would rather
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go a different direction. But the truth is if we did the
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660 / 14 years, it's a little over $47 million a year.
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Now, again, more to the reason as to why the Mets, everything
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is is turning up Mets right now. All the payroll that just came
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off the books, the vibes of of how well 2024 went, him already
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being in New York and kind of feeling that out it, it's all
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there. But it can't be that.
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Easy, right? There's room for it.
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By the way, just a frame of reference.
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I, I, I forget and I want to just look it up and read it out
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loud because it's still insane when you see it.
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Johe gets the deferred money is 10 years of $68,000,000 a year
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starting in 2034. So just just just throw that
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back out there for everybody. He's making a dollar a month
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right now and then he's going to be rolling deep in it.
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But you, you know, with inflation and all that, I mean,
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what does it really come down to still?
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It's going to be, he's going to be in Japan.
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It's not going to matter. It's going to.
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Be nice to want. To have to deal with the income
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tax of California when he's when he's done.
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Nice to know that you he won't be playing baseball and he'll
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still be having that kind of payday, yeah.
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But let's, I mean, let's say again, I'm just kind of
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subtracting that 170 number. I think it was 174 is what I
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read of what came off the books. And if they were to match 2024's
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payroll, it's $174 million to play with this offseason.
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Let's just take a nice round Number and take 45 off of that
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for Soto. Maybe if you want to round up to
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50, you bring it down to that 120 range.
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They still have so much that they can do.
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You can bring back Pete Alonso. You can fill out the rest of
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that rotation. You can go get some of these
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rather expensive relievers that I don't think there's too many
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teams in the in the league that are willing to fork over the
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money for a Tanner Scott. You can go get them.
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You can do a lot with this. Yeah, it's going to be an
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offseason. I mean, if things go that
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direction, we could possibly be looking at an offseason
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equivalent of what we saw at the trade deadline where you're
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going to have these some of these guys playing some of these
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positions that maybe 9 times out of 10 wouldn't warrant X amount
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of dollars or X like a certain package.
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But if if we're just going to continue this trend of, of just
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trying to blow other teams out of the water with packages and
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it not even really being much of A bidding war anymore, it's just
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like, let's just throw everything we can at the wall,
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see what sticks then. Yeah, Like we're, we're only
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going to really see a handful of teams going out and and plucking
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these these names and whether it be again, via trade, via
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signing, whatever, because they have the resources to do it.
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So I don't, I don't think it's insane to say that the Mets
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could get Soto Burns. You could get three out of the
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four between Soto Burns, Pete, Alonzo, Tanner Scott and and
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plug holes in your roster. I don't think that's crazy.
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That's just, it's silly. I mean, it's not, but it it's
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just, it's silly. It's absolutely silly.
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And still have money to play with too.
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But that just goes. If you get all four of those
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guys, that's probably a hundred, 120.
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But that just goes back to my question, though.
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It's like it, it can't be this, this obvious, right?
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So do to the Mets, like we just went through this with Otani.
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It was clear as day he was going to LA.
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We just went through this with Yamamamoto.
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We knew he was going to LA like it.
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We can't have another, another situation like this, right?
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Like, can we, can we maybe have a little bit of a surprise hit
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us before Christmas? I don't know, man.
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Like I think the comments from how Stein Brenner are scary to
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where the Yankees don't want to act like the Yankees
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financially. And if you're Soda, if you're
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Boris and you're hearing that like that, that gives you
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concern because you just played for a team that wasn't good
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enough to win the World Series, that bringing you back isn't
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enough to get over that hump. They need to do more.
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But you're also not willing to take a pay cut.
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How good of a presentation do you think the Yankees are really
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going to be able to have outside of history and Monument Park and
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Number retired? Like eventually that's wearing
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off. That's wearing off because it's
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been so long since you've been the cream of the crop, since
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you've been at the top of the mountain.
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It's hard to continue to have that conversation.
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It's hard to, it's hard for the Yankees to sit here and say we
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have the best facilities and the, and the best resources and
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the best city because in reality, the Mets have just as
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much, if not more money to play with to give you all of those
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things. And again, we've talked about in
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past episodes like there's no shadows, no offense, but like
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Keith Hernandez, that's that's the legend that you're going up
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against. I will say there was some, there
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was some kickback and I have seen kickback elsewhere.
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Who of of folks who feel that the Francisco Lindor not being.
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Like. Yeah, no, for sure.
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But they there, there are folks that are hesitant to to agree
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with the sentiment that Juan Soto going to the Mets would
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equate or would equal it being his team.
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Because you have Francisco Lindor there.
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And for the record, I'm with there.
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May be a few years. There may be a few years.
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But how old is Lindor? Not 25.
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Not. Is Lindor a surefire Hall of
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Famer? Probably not.
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He may, he may, you make it in. He'll he'll end up there.
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But like, is he a generational no record-breaking in multiple
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category type offensive player? No, so you can you're that
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argument is recency bias of 2024.
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If we go back to May of this year and and further back like
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you're not none of these fans are talking this way about
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Lindor. You're telling me 3/4 of a
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season has suddenly made the Mets Lindor's team?
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This is move over. I'm sorry.
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Juan Soto will be the guy when he's there.
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He will be the guy. There will be if, if he does
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what he is supposed to do and he's there for the length of
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this contract, he will have a statue outside of that stadium
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and he will be the Met. Move over David Wright, move
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over Keith Hernandez. This will be the guy.
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Tell me I'm wrong if you're in the chat and you genuinely are
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going to sit there and tell me that 3/4 of a solid top five MVP
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voting season out of Lindor means that it's his franchise.
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It's ridiculous. Well.
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Yes and no. Like I think it's, it's more
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than just 2024 that you have to take into account.
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And I know that like he I think. He's kind of been somewhat of a
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let down outside of this year. I'm leaving that I'm, I'm going
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to leave you to defend that elsewhere, whether it be in the
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chat, in the comments or so on and so forth.
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But I have, I have, I have no interest in in opening that can
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of worms. But Speaking of a shortstop,
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let's switch gears here, Willy Adamus.
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Market's eating up a little bit. I saw recently, either today or
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yesterday, that the Astros are reportedly becoming more serious
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in their pursuit. Possibly.
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No, no, no, not pursuit. I'll say interest.
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Did you buy that? No, Guys never played either.
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Guys never played third base in his life.
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I don't buy. I think it's to bring the price
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down on Bregman, whatever the asking price for Bregman is.
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I think they're bringing it down, saying, Oh well, you know,
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if you move on, we can go get somebody else.
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Yeah, if if you're the Astros and you let Alex Bregman walk,
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there's probably a couple other options.
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And again, I'm no businessman, I'm no front office executive.
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But you would have to think that there's probably a couple other
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options that you would explore before slotting in a guy who,
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again, has never played third base in his life over third
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base. We we talked about it last week.
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Alec Boehm is a possible option. If if, if arnotto trade market
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is is serious Arnotto, you go get Arnotto Willie.
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If I'm Willie Adamas, I don't know if I'm at a point in my
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career like sure, I'm going to. I'm probably going to say what
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you know needs to be said just to come across as a team player.
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And I'm sure I'm sure he's a good dude and I'm sure he would
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play third base. If that's what if the if the
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team acquiring him told him he had to do, I'm sure he'd do it.
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But you got to think there's probably an element to his game
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where he's like I'm fully capable of of staying put where
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I'm at. I want to go to a team where I
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can be a short me and be myself. Especially coming off, I would
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say his best, his best year of his career.
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Oh, I had a yeah, I had a great year.
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But yeah, I the the Houston I I just don't know.
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It just doesn't make sense. And to your point, yeah, coming
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off a great year, 3232 bombs 100 and 212 RB is 21 stolen bases
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794 RPS, 3.1 war. Solid and I don't have we heard
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from him or his camp that he's willing to play another position
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that that. Is the thing I've not heard
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usually. Hear about The only thing about
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third base that I've heard about Willie Domas is what the Astros
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are interested in. Yep, and usually when when a
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guy's market starts to heat up, you usually start getting some
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sound bites out of the player in questions camp And I unless
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somebody else has heard it, I in digging around I have not heard
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anything from Adamus and for that reason I just, I don't
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think it's a good fit. Yeah, I don't see it.
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So if you want to keep him at shortstop, what are you
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thinking? Well, John Morosi, who I believe
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was the one that came out with the Astros report initially also
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included the Braves, the Red Sox, the Blue Jays as possible
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options to to go get him. Personally, I like the Braves as
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a fit. I'm I could not be more over
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Arcia. Yeah, just.
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Yeah, beginning new at the six hole and just.
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Man, I do like that fit too. I, I just sure there's some,
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some bias at play there, but I, I mean, if you're going to go
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from RCA to Adamus, who's who's complaining?
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Man, they got room to do it. They always do.
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And look, I know the Braves, I know Braves fans love to, to, to
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give off this vibe that they're, they're loyal fans and they are.
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And I'm not knocking them for that, but look what happened
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when when Freddie left. Look what happened when Matt
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Olson came into town. They fell in love with Matt
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Olson. So and and we're not we're
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talking about Orlando Arcea. Like this isn't a brave star by
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any stretch. So if he was to take a back seat
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or be shipped out, whatever. And you brought in Willie Adamas
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to be your guy for the the foreseeable future.
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Who's Hussein? Boo to that.
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Yeah, I agree. I do concur, trying to think of
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like some surprise teams. Did I overhear I don't know that
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they would ever be in the market?
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Did I overhear that the Pirates have officially moved O'Neill
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Cruz the outfield? Did I see that somewhere
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correctly after an abysmal let? Me confirm.
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Yep, center field. So Brian Reynolds moves to left
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full time. Did this happen over the summer?
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I don't I vague, I barely remember this.
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Feel like they snuck it in in like August and.
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Yeah, except like looks. Yeah, start of September.
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So he wasn't out there for very long.
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But yeah, I guess he, I guess he was out there.
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But I mean, at that point the pirate story I think had fizzled
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out. So I don't know how many
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eyeballs admittedly were on the Pirates, but that.
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'D be neat, that's. That's a good point, but it's
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always a matter of. Like about money?
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Do you want to trade it within the OR not trade, but you know,
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do you want to, do you want to work within the division?
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Yeah, trying to think Seattle is the is the JP Crawford story
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dried up? Is that all done?
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I would might even be a free Asian, isn't he?
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I wouldn't. I don't.
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I'm not hanging on to that. No, I don't think he's a free
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agent. I'm not.
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I'm not too interested If I'm a Mariner fan.
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I don't. I think I'm all done there.
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I mean, sure, now he's a free agent in 2027, so he's got two
27:25
years left. And that might be true for a lot
27:28
of Mariners fans. But if you're the Mariners front
27:30
office, I don't know if if if you're washed up or if you're
27:33
you're over it to the point of having to shake up that whole
27:36
deal for a guy like William Thomas.
27:39
I don't. I think A-Team, like the Braves,
27:42
should be a much better. Fit Cleveland, maybe.
27:47
I do like the Braves now that you.
27:49
I mean, when you put it out there, didn't really come to
27:52
mind for me until that. But man, I like it.
27:57
I like that fit a lot. You know what I like Nate.
28:00
Damn it he would. He would hit like he would hit
28:02
like 6th. Isn't that crazy?
28:09
What else do you like? I like Paul Skeen's rookie card
28:22
being out there somewhere in the wild.
28:24
And boy, when it gets found, can we talk about this Hall that
28:32
it's about the pull, the Pittsburgh Pirates.
28:34
I know it's been a a couple days at this point, but in case you
28:37
haven't heard, which I don't know how you haven't at this
28:39
point because it seems like everybody's getting in on this.
28:43
The Pittsburgh Pirates have offered in exchange for someone
28:47
finding Paul Skean's debut patch autographed card, which is, by
28:52
the way, obviously one of one. The Pirates have offered two
28:56
Pirate season tickets behind home plate for the next 30
29:00
years. What?
29:04
30 years a meet and greet with Paul Skeens 2 Paul Skeens
29:11
autographed jerseys a softball game for 30.
29:15
They're really, really tapping into this. 30 bit softball game
29:20
for 30 at PNC Park with coaching from Pirates alumni.
29:23
Private tour of Pirate City and is that Lecom Park as well as
29:30
other unique experiences. Not to mention Livi Dunn got in
29:35
on the action. She said let's she tweeted out,
29:37
let's raise the stakes. The person who finds the card
29:39
can sit with me at a Pirates game in my suite.
29:42
Seth Meyers on top of that said you can join me.
29:46
He said if you let me see it, I just want to be able to look at
29:49
it and then you can join that. You can join us at late night on
29:56
set for a live taping of the show, which whatever, I don't.
30:01
What am I going to do with that? But still cool that people are
30:03
getting in on it, you know, like this is, this is becoming a huge
30:06
thing. How?
30:11
What is it worth? I saw today that it was
30:15
estimated at $500,000. So you, you get this card.
30:26
What's your net? Your net worth grows 1/2 a
30:29
million and then all of these offers come raining down on you.
30:36
Do you keep the card? Do the pirates want it back?
30:39
I'm confused. What do you mean?
30:43
If you find it and they just give you all those things, what,
30:46
what are you giving it? What are you?
30:48
What are you giving up in return?
30:49
The card. You're giving them the card
30:51
because I believe the the pirates want the card.
30:55
So I read so that they can I guess keep it at PNC for the
30:59
fans. So it can be it kind of it can
31:02
kind of stay within the family if you will.
31:04
But I guess if you were to sell it out right I'm sure it would
31:07
fetch more than 500 at this point given just the hype around
31:10
it and and assuming schemes career just continues to trend
31:15
upwards, probably earn more than a or probably fetch a little
31:18
more than 500K. I'm selling that thing right
31:23
away. Thanks, Seth.
31:28
Thanks, Livi. Thanks Pirates.
31:31
That's another thing, too. Like I'm selling that thing.
31:33
What are you going to do with Livy?
31:35
What are you right? What are you going to?
31:36
You're going to flirt with his. Girlfriend, you're a single
31:39
that's even that's even a better point.
31:41
I hadn't even really considered that I in my head I'm thinking,
31:44
well, a married man, certainly not going to do that.
31:46
But then I but then to your point, not even a single man's
31:48
going to be smart and you're not going to do anything there
31:51
because that's the whole reason she's there.
31:53
You're. Going to somehow steal Livy from
31:55
Paul Skeens. What do you think that?
31:58
Would be the. Sweet.
31:59
That would be the the theft of the century.
32:00
Like you, you, you find this card and then you're nowhere to
32:05
be found with Libby Dunn running off into the sunset in Cancun or
32:09
something that now that would be a story.
32:13
Now I'm not, I of course she would do that willingly.
32:16
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not suggesting or promoting like
32:19
kidnapping. I'm just saying.
32:20
Run that back a little bit. Yeah.
32:22
Just saying that I'm in. Some fine print, yeah.
32:24
So you're selling it? If you find it selling that
32:27
thing right away, we'll look. Look, I like Paul skins.
32:31
We never know. You never know.
32:37
You never know. Sometimes the hype gets a little
32:41
too big for some britches. OK, I think he's going to be
32:45
great. I think he's going to be
32:46
excellent. But do I hang on to that puppy?
32:51
No. Give me the 500 K right now.
32:53
I'm buying a house. I mean what?
32:55
Get some land, turn in a baseball.
32:58
Get some land buying a goat. That's it.
33:02
Never to be heard. Some chickens.
33:06
Never to be heard from again. Those.
33:08
Sunken in trampolines. Just ground level trampolines.
33:12
In ground trampoline. Now I can get behind that.
33:15
See cooking it's I mean end of the day you got to ask the
33:21
question, how much are pirate season tickets worth at this
33:24
point? That's what I'm saying.
33:25
It's 30 years. Yeah, you.
33:27
Extrapolated over 30 years but still.
33:30
I don't. I don't even know.
33:31
I would just take the 500 tick. Oh my God, we don't have time
33:34
for this. No, I do, I do, I do Pirates
33:39
season tickets. Let's see what they see, what
33:43
they run. I'm.
33:44
Really glad I got out in front of that kidnapping pit.
33:46
I. I I am too.
33:48
I'm just glad. I'm just glad nobody was able to
33:52
make connect those dots, that I was somehow suggesting that
33:55
somehow or that someone should kidnap Olivia Dunn.
33:59
It's not what I'm suggesting. Just what are these?
34:03
Plans tell me the tell me the price.
34:06
You're not going to. You're going to have to call the
34:08
pirates to figure that out. And that we don't have time for.
34:15
Also, I'm sure you probably got to get on a waiting.
34:16
Well, maybe not for the pirates. Probably don't have a waiting
34:18
list for pirates. Probably not much of A waiting
34:20
list, yeah. But you're probably not going to
34:23
find that information online. What do?
34:26
What do you think is a realistic number?
34:32
I, I don't know, Grand. Even if it was 50 grand, what's
34:35
I mean? 30 years. 50 * 30 Nope, that's
34:42
not what I'm looking for. Carry the one.
34:45
Yep, OK, the one even if it was $50,000 over the next 30.
34:49
Years. That's not that's that's.
34:52
One in a let's see commas. Yep, what's 1 1/2 mil?
34:57
But it's you're right. That's I mean, that's way of an
34:59
exaggeration. And that's only three times what
35:02
you'd be getting if you sold it right away.
35:07
I'm not doing it. I just wouldn't do it.
35:10
I'm selling that thing out right?
35:16
I'll bump it up to 750. Give me 3/4 of $1,000,000 for
35:20
finding a freaking card of another human.
35:23
If if another. Human being that puts his pants
35:27
on the same way. If you drop the season ticket
35:31
cost estimate down to 25,000, it would be 750,000.
35:37
Which I think 25 K season tickets, it's still overshooting
35:42
it for sure. That's a very, very big
35:45
estimate. Yeah, selling that thing.
35:48
Selling that thing are we buying or sell Speaking of selling are
35:54
we buying or selling the fact that there's going to be more
35:58
than two inductees in the Hall of Fame ballot just dropped
36:06
today you're. Putting the number at 2:00, run
36:12
me through some names, what do you got?
36:14
Some first time candidates that we've got.
36:16
You've got Carlos Gonzalez, Curtis Granderson, Felix
36:19
Hernandez, Adam Jones, Ian Kinsler, Russell Martin, Brian
36:23
McCann, Dustin Pedroia, Hanley Ramirez, Fernando Rodney, CC
36:27
Sabathia, Ichiro Suzuki, Troy Tulowitzki and Ben Zoeberst.
36:32
I'm seeing Suzuki, Sabathia and Hernandez is all like in the
36:42
mix. Everybody else, thanks for
36:45
coming out at least this year. Yeah.
36:48
And again, that's just for the first time candidates.
36:50
Obviously you've got the the guys that are returning.
36:52
But I, I should have, I should have clarified when I asked over
36:56
or or more than two candidates. I should have said first time
36:59
candidates because again you've got you've got some returning
37:03
members who borderline but of the 1st.
37:12
Time coming from a Red Sox fan too.
37:13
I mean I look I I respect Dustin Pedroia.
37:17
I have I have respect for that man the way he played the game
37:22
big time respect first ballot Hall of Famer.
37:27
I don't think so. I just can't get there.
37:31
I just can't get there. No, I think it's each your own
37:34
And and I think CC, I think CC, I think.
37:41
And and by me including Felix in the mix, I'm not necessarily
37:44
saying that I think he's going to be in the first ballot
37:46
because you just, I mean you in. Felix is.
37:49
That what I said. You think Felix is going to be
37:52
honor or CC? No, I think CC and Ichiro are
37:55
the two of this of these first time candidates.
38:00
But Felix, you just I mean, you look at the numbers and I know,
38:04
I know war gets thrown around a lot and people have different
38:08
feelings about war, but it I feel like it's a metric you can
38:12
use when talking about the Hall of Fame and specifically with
38:16
with these pictures. If you look at his, let me pull
38:20
it up here. I had the tab up earlier.
38:22
What happened to it? If you pull up here we go.
38:36
If you pull up the war numbers for for the WAR 7, which is your
38:41
best 7 WAR seasons again, do not have to be in a row.
38:45
He ranks Felix Hernandez ranks a hundred, 110th, 110th.
38:59
Where's the ranking strike? Johann Santana, 63rd and is not
39:04
in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, yeah.
39:07
I just don't see it. But numbers, I mean, look, those
39:16
milestone numbers are are changing.
39:19
You know, there's certain things that we look at as far as
39:24
secured staples. You know, like I think 500 home
39:30
runs is like the number, I think 3000 strikeouts is the number.
39:44
Just kind of like a you're, you're, it's almost a shoe in.
39:48
I feel like those numbers are just slowly coming down a little
39:52
bit. Oh yeah, the 3000.
39:53
I mean, that's. That's not going to.
39:55
That's not going to happen again, really.
39:57
Consider that a thing of the past.
39:59
Yeah, I don't. I just, I'm wondering where the
40:04
shift is happening, you know what I mean?
40:05
Like where are we? When are we going to start
40:07
shifting our our minds to lowering the standard
40:13
qualifications? Speaking of shifting and
40:16
lowering, let's talk about this Orioles left field wall.
40:21
Waltimore as it well, I can't really say lovingly, was called
40:27
because people hated it. People hated it.
40:32
Orioles have decided to do a little reversal there of the the
40:41
mile long left field wall. I have mad respect for this, I'm
40:47
not going to lie. I do too.
40:49
This is. Big brownie points in the
40:52
self-awareness. Box self-awareness You you, you
40:56
behaved like an adult. There was a clearly adults in
40:59
the room. They said, you know what?
41:01
You made hand up accountability from the Baltimore memorials
41:03
right there. They said we made a mistake and
41:06
people hate it, so let's let's get back in the good graces.
41:10
I like that. So the wall is still going to
41:16
begin at the 333 foot mark and it's going to move back at an
41:23
angle to 373 feet. But what I'm reading lowered and
41:30
what was reported is that the rest of the wall over to the
41:35
bullpen area will be pulled in at varying distances between 9
41:40
and 20 feet. And it's dropping down in
41:44
height. The height of the wall will no
41:47
longer be thirteen feet, but rather 8 in some areas and six
41:50
feet 11 inches and others. Very good, very good.
41:55
Robable 13 is not robable. That's insane.
42:02
Just take an action away. I like this.
42:05
What's going to happen with that little cut out spot next to?
42:10
Nothing. The bull pinch is going to be.
42:12
Empty nothing. So it what's going to be cool
42:16
actually is they are going to give what's the guy's name, the
42:26
Splash? What is that guy's name?
42:29
Mr. Splash. They're giving Mr. Splash his
42:32
own, his own platform. Let me see if I can send you
42:36
this picture. Yeah, I'm sending this picture
42:40
not. Really, we're really just
42:42
rewarding lunatics at this point.
42:44
Like the if you're crazy enough to just be the most loud and
42:52
obnoxious fan you can be for a team, you get rewarded.
42:58
Check out that platform. It's just going to be like a
43:01
vacant area ultimately because I read they're not going.
43:08
To be like a cameraman hanging out on that right.
43:11
Possibly. Well, that's going to be for Mr.
43:13
Splash. But then the space below it, I
43:17
read that they're not adding seeds, they're not making any
43:19
additions in that regard, but that they're simply just
43:21
bringing in and lowering the wall.
43:24
Do something fun there. Do something fun put like a big
43:28
bird fountain. Give me something I like this
43:33
though I do. I really like these renderings
43:35
that I'm looking at. I like the weird cutouts in the
43:39
angles. Huge fan.
43:41
I love the idea of a ball just getting caught in that corner
43:44
and left fielder just panicking because it rolls up the wall and
43:49
we got some inside the park home runs that we we could see.
43:53
I'm all about those angles. I like it.
43:57
Mad respect. Job well done.
44:00
Whoever pulled the trigger on this and said yes we need to
44:04
correct our mistakes. I love that accountability.
44:07
Big time accountability. And lastly here super quick
44:12
Minute Maid Park will be no will be no more beginning January 1
44:18
of 2025. The Astros announced today that
44:22
they are changing the name of their ballpark to Daikin.
44:29
That can't be. Right, Daikin, Speaking of lack
44:37
of self-awareness, what is this? What are we doing?
44:39
What is that company? What do they do?
44:41
HVAC So you're going from the juice box to what?
44:46
A lot of Astros fans are already campaigning for the ice box.
44:50
No, no, doesn't work. Doesn't well, I mean, good on
44:54
them for trying to make the most of it.
44:56
I mean, what are they going to do reverse it?
44:59
They're not going to reverse the decision decision.
45:01
So at least like try to get creative with it.
45:04
Yeah, Icebox, I can. I can dig it.
45:06
Orange juice is really taking a hit this off.
45:08
That's what I'm saying, man. We started this year with two
45:12
operational functional baseball stadiums that were built on
45:19
orange juice and now we have none.
45:21
Just some random gut punches to the orange juice industry like
45:25
this is it's it's tough to see Dakin.
45:33
I hate field changes. I hate the names.
45:37
I hate when when they change names.
45:39
I mean, I'd be crazy. I hate, I hate corporate sponsor
45:43
stadiums anyway. Yeah.
45:45
But some of them like. They work.
45:48
Some of them work and like if they're around.
45:50
Long enough works Petco. Yeah, Petco works.
45:54
Minute Maid Park just worked. It was like, you know, it's
45:56
still a corporate sponsor, but like I'm I'm on board with this.
46:00
But then you get somebody like this coming in.
46:04
No, no, like the whole what, what's what I know we talk about
46:10
all the time, the one out in Milwaukee, Great American
46:13
family. Like that's never going to catch
46:14
on. Like that's just not one that
46:16
works. Oh.
46:18
Minute Maid part Minute Maid Park just worked.
46:21
This does not. Stick to beverages, you know, if
46:24
it's not a beer, if it's not a juice, I don't want it.
46:29
New rules. I agree.
46:31
Commissioner for the day. Commissioner for the day, if
46:34
it's not a beverage, get lost. Speaking of getting lost, let's
46:38
get out of here. Free Sun Park that could hit
46:41
Capri Sun Park could really hit. Someone needs to look into that.
46:49
I I can dig it. Yeah.
46:53
Is that it? That's it.
46:55
We'll we'll wrap up. I know Rookie of the Year is
46:57
happening like as we're speaking, but we'll save it.
47:00
Let's we'll talk some awards on Thursday, but other than that.
47:07
Curveballs. Don't chase them.
47:10
We love you all and as always, looking forward to talking more
47:12
baseball with you guys soon. Until next time, stay filthy.