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- 0:00So who's worse, a male narcissist or a female
- 0:04narcissist? That's the question of the day,
- 0:08isn't it? Like who do you think?
- 0:09Who do you think? The woman who has narcissistic
- 0:12traits or narcissistic personality disorder or the man
- 0:15that has those same exact traits?
- 0:17That's what we talk about today, y'all.
- 0:19If you're new here, my name is Lee Hammock.
- 0:21I'm a diagnosed narcissist. I went with another episode of
- 0:23The Narcissist Code. Boom.
- 0:42Welcome back folks, welcome back, welcome back.
- 0:43Yeah, y'all who who like a look. I sound like a little
- 0:48narcissistic owl. Don't know who, who, who, who is
- 0:52more narcissistic or who like who's harder to deal with, which
- 0:57is worse, who is worse? Because a lot of people this,
- 1:00this question is going to come up on this.
- 1:02A lot of people face this question.
- 1:04A lot of people want to know the answer to this question.
- 1:07And me as a male narcissist, I got to say, look, I've dealt
- 1:11with people, look, I've dealt with women that are narcissists.
- 1:13I've dealt with the female narcissist as well, right?
- 1:16And if y'all, if y'all hear me saying female, I'm not trying to
- 1:18use it like the red pill podcast, misogynistic folks.
- 1:22I'm just using her to describe the the narcissistic woman,
- 1:25right? I'm not talking about a female
- 1:26narcissistic animal. I'm talking about the female
- 1:28narcissist because I know how some people out here who just
- 1:31they just get way ahead of themselves and do a whole bunch
- 1:34of weirdo ass stuff. And that's not me.
- 1:36That's not what this channel's about.
- 1:37This channel's try to be. I try to be all inclusive over
- 1:39the narcissistic person, right? So online there are a lot of to
- 1:45me, I got to say it really just depends, right, because female
- 1:49narcissists can't absolutely be terrible human beings.
- 1:55Male narcissist as well. But what you what I see online,
- 1:59though, is the consensus, not the consensus, but I've seen
- 2:02online. I did look.
- 2:02I actually did some research for this right here.
- 2:05I was like going through comment sections.
- 2:06I was going through Reddit and Cora Cora the Q word qu Quora
- 2:13went to this site as well and a lot of people say the same thing
- 2:17like covert narcissists are the worst, right?
- 2:19Covert narcissists are the worst because they're they're harder
- 2:22to predict. They're harder to determine
- 2:23who's a covert narcissist and who isn't.
- 2:26And female narcissists tend to be more covert.
- 2:30So I'm not, I'm not saying that the woman who's a narcissist or
- 2:33the female narcissist is worse or harder to deal with.
- 2:36I'm just saying covert narcissist as a whole are
- 2:40tougher to deal with, right? Covert narcissistic people as a
- 2:45whole are extremely tough to deal with because their
- 2:49manipulation and their abuse can be so subtle and so secret.
- 2:54Like that's the point of being covert.
- 2:55You want the abuse to be secret. You want everything to be a
- 2:59secret. You want everything to be
- 3:01hidden. So it makes sense in these
- 3:03spaces right here when you're dealing with a narcissistic
- 3:06person, toxic person, whoever that covert narcissists are the
- 3:09worst and women tend to be more covert.
- 3:11Now, I'm not saying that like you get the male covert
- 3:13narcissist who is also a horrible ass human being.
- 3:17You know, they can be abusive, they can be toxic as hell, they
- 3:19can be manipulative, they can be they they can do everything a
- 3:22female narcissist can do right. But I think a lot of times what
- 3:25ends up happening with female narcissist is they go
- 3:28undetected, right? Because they the female
- 3:33narcissist, the female BPD, the female personality, the female
- 3:37personality, the female abuser, the woman abuser, right?
- 3:41Literally can play the victim. They really, they really, really
- 3:44can. And because women are the, the,
- 3:47the overwhelming majority of domestic violence cases and
- 3:50things like that are the victims are women, the female
- 3:54narcissistic manipulator abuser takes full advantage of that,
- 3:59right? They take full, like they take
- 4:02full advantage of it, right? And they use it to, and they use
- 4:08it. They do, they really do use it.
- 4:14They use it to their advantage. They use it to benefit
- 4:16themselves and they will continue, continue to do that.
- 4:19Why would they stop? You know, if it works, why would
- 4:22they stop? You know the male narcissist
- 4:25will do the exact same thing, right?
- 4:26The the quiet nerdy type male narcissist, covert narcissist
- 4:31will do the same thing. They're passive aggressive.
- 4:34You know, malignant. I'm not like this is not me.
- 4:37I'm trying to diminish malignant or overt narcissist, right?
- 4:41Because those human beings can be, can be God awful as well,
- 4:45right? What I'm doing, it's telling you
- 4:48that a lot of times you it's not hard to a lot of times it's not
- 4:52difficult to spot out the malignant narcissist, right,
- 4:56because they be loud, they be annoying, they be boisterous.
- 5:00They have a lot of stuff go a lot of stuff going on.
- 5:02Well, they just, they're just outlandish.
- 5:04They a lot of times they get loud as hell, they're doing a
- 5:07lot of loud weirdo ass stuff. So it makes sense right there,
- 5:11right when you're dealing with this type of person.
- 5:13So the malignant narcissist is not hard to spot.
- 5:16He was like you, you being a crowded like, yeah, that's the
- 5:19malignant one right there, 'cause they loud.
- 5:20I had a one of my old friends, super malignant narcissist.
- 5:24Everybody knew he was a narcissist.
- 5:25Like he wasn't trying to hide it.
- 5:26He needed the best of everything, was loud as hell,
- 5:30was aggressive, was a liar, a cheater, a manipulator, you
- 5:34know, abuse, domestic violence. He was like, he literally had
- 5:36lost his mind, like, and nobody was surprised, like, oh, he's in
- 5:40jail. Oh, OK, people would go about
- 5:42their day because it wasn't something that was shocking to
- 5:46everybody, right. So you knew who you was abuser
- 5:49and they still, like I said that that doesn't, I'm not trying to
- 5:52invalidate the victims of malignant or or overt
- 5:55narcissist. It's just a lot of people will
- 5:57just tell you they're covert narcissist because you they're
- 6:00harder to to detect and a lot of people don't believe you when
- 6:03you're dealing with this person. It's it can be tougher to deal
- 6:06with because the the covert narcissist, this is like you
- 6:09tell somebody else about your abuse that you've experienced,
- 6:12right? And they'll be like, well, they
- 6:13didn't do that to me. Well, they didn't treat me that
- 6:16way. Well, what did you do to them?
- 6:18Right? The covert narcissist.
- 6:20See, this is what you get from that right there.
- 6:22So female narcissist, like I said, it can be horrible, right?
- 6:25And yeah, I've experienced female narcissist.
- 6:27So it might sound like I got a little bias here a little y'all
- 6:30might believe you sound biased as hell, Lee.
- 6:33You sound extremely biased right now.
- 6:35You sound like you, you know, you, you only you picking with.
- 6:38No, no, no. I've dealt with female
- 6:39narcissist, but I see male narcissist as well.
- 6:41Yeah, yeah. The worst narcissist is the one
- 6:44that you have to deal with. Let's say it like that.
- 6:47The worst, the worst narcissist is the one that you have to deal
- 6:52with. Those are going to be the worst
- 6:54right there. Anyone that you have to deal
- 6:55with is going to be worse. And this is like I said again,
- 6:58so many people are facing narcissistic abuse, facing toxic
- 7:01relationship dynamics, facing toxic manipulative people.
- 7:04So y'all understand what you're going through.
- 7:06You survived it, you thrive through it, right?
- 7:08You're on a, you're on a healing journey, you're on the healing
- 7:10part of it. You're on the the side of
- 7:13healing right now, right? So as you continue to move
- 7:15forward, this is what's going to happen for you, right?
- 7:19I feel like so many people, especially your situation, like
- 7:22don't compare and contrast, right?
- 7:24Because you don't like comparison.
- 7:25Compare and contrasting helps nobody out, right?
- 7:29Because I'll post a video on my other channel if y'all don't
- 7:31know. I haven't.
- 7:32I have a reaction channel, right?
- 7:34It's called Lee dot actions, Lee period actions, right?
- 7:38And I post stuff over there and people will almost always
- 7:41compare and contrast some of the reaction videos.
- 7:43Like I posted a video of a woman getting yelled and screamed at,
- 7:45right? And people commented like, this
- 7:48is nothing compared to what I got.
- 7:49I'm like, how does they, how does they help anybody else out,
- 7:51right? This doesn't help anybody else
- 7:53out. So comparing and contrasting can
- 7:55actually be, can actually diminish your own struggle and
- 7:58diminish other people and make other people feel invalidated.
- 8:02Well, I guess I, I really don't have anything to complain about
- 8:04because you said it, right? You see how that works?
- 8:06You see the mental space that it falls into right there.
- 8:09So you have to protect yourself in these situations, right?
- 8:12But female narcissist can be horrible.
- 8:13They like they do stuff with kids.
- 8:15They do they, you know, they play the victim.
- 8:17They can get you arrested, they can get you arrested.
- 8:19And this is not just female to male like in the LGBTQIA
- 8:23community. I hope I said that, right?
- 8:24Y'all the women, women, the women, women loving women,
- 8:28They'd be abusive as hell too. They'd be abusive like you.
- 8:32How many people I've talked to that are in female to female
- 8:34relationships and be like, yeah, she'd be beating my ass and
- 8:37nobody believes me. I was like, oh goodness, he's
- 8:41covert, you know. But the male narcissist
- 8:44typically, 'cause they, the power structure, the patriarchy,
- 8:46all that other stuff, they can be horrible to you as well.
- 8:49Because if they're kind generous to everybody else, if they're
- 8:53sweet to everybody else, if they're a firefighter or a
- 8:56police officer or the pastor at the church or religious leader
- 9:00or, you know, presidents, senators, congressmen, any
- 9:07position of power, CE OS running apps, whatever it is, right?
- 9:12Any position of power, they can, they have a power dynamic over
- 9:15you where they can use money and systems of abuse to manipulate
- 9:20you and hurt you as well, right? If this is your boss, whoever it
- 9:23is. So it really the worst
- 9:25narcissist is absolutely the one that you have to deal with, the
- 9:29one that you have to face. And like I said, that's why I
- 9:31try not to invalidate people. And just like males are worse,
- 9:33females are worse. I don't want to make y'all feel
- 9:35invalidated because they both Dave, y'all, both of them can
- 9:39have horrible, you can have a horrible experiences with both
- 9:42of them. Like I've had horrible
- 9:44experiences with female narcissists dating them, right?
- 9:47But I've also had horrible experiences with male
- 9:50narcissists being my friends and my business partners.
- 9:52So like I said, I'm not exempt, but I also say this about female
- 9:55narcissists. You know, one of the main
- 9:56problems that I do here, not problems.
- 9:58One of the main issues that I do here a lot is people would say
- 10:03my mom is a narcissist. My mom was a narcissist.
- 10:05I hear that a lot. My mom was a narcissist.
- 10:08So you have a female narcissistic parent of a female
- 10:11narcissistic mom. You, you get it from the very
- 10:13beginning and they be so covert. Y'all, the narcissistic moms be
- 10:16so covert. The narcissistic dads, they be
- 10:19covert too. They be abandoning and doing.
- 10:22They be dipping out so but the male narcissist y'all, I just
- 10:25feel like it really just depends on who you're dealing with
- 10:28because narcissists all around can be toxic.
- 10:30They can be horrible ass people. They can be abusive ass people.
- 10:33They can be manipulative. They can, you know, convince you
- 10:36otherwise. Like they can abuse the kids.
- 10:37They can just use money against you.
- 10:39They can manipulate you with money.
- 10:41Like I said it just what do you think?
- 10:44I'm gonna lead this. I'm gonna open it up to the
- 10:45court. I'm gonna open this up to the
- 10:46comment section, right? What do you think?
- 10:48Who do you think is the worst narcissist females or males?
- 10:52And again, y'all respond to other people's comments, but
- 10:55don't try to diminish what other people have experienced.
- 10:57Mentor y'all. Anyway, Joe, I do have to hop
- 10:59over here. I have a Zoom call I have to hop
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