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Ep. 20: Five Husbands, Zero Judgment · We Are More: Sisters Talk Faith & Feminism

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  Welcome to the We Are More podcast.
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  My name is Alyssa.
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  And my name is Bri.
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  We're two sisters passionate about all things faith and feminism.
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  We believe that Jesus trusted, respected, and encouraged women to teach and preach His
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  word.
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  And apparently that's controversial.
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  Get comfy.
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  Piss, piss, piss.
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  You can't start like that.
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  All right.
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  Hello, everyone.
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  Hello.
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  Why do I always talk first?
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  Because you're annoying.
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  Oh, thank you.
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  As Brianna sits there in sunglasses with a claw clip on the direct top of her head.
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  It's a good look.
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  If you put the claw clip, okay, life hack for you.
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  If you put the claw clip at the very top of your head, you can lay down.
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  That does sound like a pretty good hack.
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  I know.
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  Hey, all you people with hair.
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  Most of you probably.
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  Not necessarily.
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  Not necessarily.
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  They should have little claw clips for your leg hair.
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  How long is your leg hair?
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  Depends on the day.
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  I shaved yesterday, but it was really unaffected if I found out this morning.
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  Oh no.
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  I looked and I was like, oh.
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  Bree is just one of those razors that has the soap all around it.
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  And I feel like you can just never get a close shave with those.
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  Well, I think the issue is that you trust it too much.
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  You don't look.
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  Yeah.
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  That's probably a sad thing.
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  Or you just keep swiping and you think it's fine.
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  I need to read that book all about you or whatever it is, American Girl.
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  The American Girl one?
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  We have it in the house right now.
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  What is it called?
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  The Care and Keeping of You.
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  The Care and Keeping of You.
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  Okay.
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  So if you want a definition of who I am versus who Bree is.
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  I feel like we've talked about that before.
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  We had this book.
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  It's called The Care and Keeping of You, right?
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  All the girlies know it.
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  Oh yeah.
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  All the women know.
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  It's like the puberty book.
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  It's what you get when you're going through puberty.
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  And for some reason, American Girl wrote it.
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  Yeah.
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  Why?
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  They're like, you like dolls and you have a period.
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  But it's so helpful.
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  It explains everything in really basic terms and it's great.
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  So we had a copy of it when we were kids and our mom paper clipped together certain pages
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  about periods and tampons and whatever because she hadn't had that conversation with us yet.
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  I would not have moved those paper clips if someone came up to me and said, if you don't
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  look in those pages, the world is going to explode.
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  I would not ever have looked between those pages.
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  Brianna, the first thing she does, rip off the paper clips and read that section.
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  Because all the fun people are with me.
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  They want to know about tampons ASAP.
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  We just want to know.
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  They're curious.
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  You can read the side of the box.
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  I don't know if you know this, but when I was eight, I wasn't buying tampons and looking
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  through the boxes.
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  Mom probably had some.
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  Mom?
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  You want to chime in?
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  Mom is unfortunately not here.
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  Anyway, today we're going to be talking about the woman at the well.
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  The woman, the woman at the well, well, well, well.
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  I made that up when I was in the bathroom.
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  Oh, I just want to hear like, is this a thing?
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  Is this a Veggie Tales episode I don't remember?
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  I feel like it's the tune to something.
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  I don't know what it is.
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  It's now to the woman at the well, which is the theme song to today's episode.
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  Oh good.
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  We get a theme song.
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  Should I just take out our intro song and pop that in there?
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  Just me on the loop.
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  The woman at the well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well,
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  well, well, well, well, well, well, well.
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  Darn it.
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  All the heck.
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  We're going to be talking through this story.
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  It's found in John.
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  Bree thought it was found in all the gospels, but she's a liar.
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  I'm just saying it's the Mandela effect because one of the top things that pops up on Google,
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  just search whatever.
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  It is that.
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  It is the woman at the well story in all four gospels.
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  Other people are with me.
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  Well other people are looking for the information.
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  As am I.
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  You've convinced yourself.
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  I took a class on this.
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  I'm pretty sure.
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  I don't know what to tell you.
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  The internet says and so does the Bible.
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  I'm sorry.
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  I'm really upset.
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  I'm sorry.
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  I feel like my dreams are shattered just like the Berenstein Bears.
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  Huh.
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  Okay.
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  Another Mandela effect.
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  I can talk about this later.
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  Oh good.
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  So the story of the woman at the well is found in John.
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  Sorry, Bree.
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  And I believe it's four.
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  John chapter four.
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  So the basics of this story are that there's a woman and there's a well and there's Jesus.
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  So this woman, I'm not going to read the whole four word story to you.
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  I wish you would.
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  I will not.
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  I'm just going to kind of talk through it, but I would encourage you to read it.
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  So John chapter four is where you can find it.
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  Pause everybody.
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  Everybody pause.
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  Open your Bibles to John chapter four.
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  Read it to yourself and then hit play.
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  All right.
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  So now that you've done that, I'm still going to explain it to you because some of you won't.
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  Like Bree.
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  Bree would not have.
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  No.
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  I don't follow directions.
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  And the pastors say repeat after me or whatever and they say, or they say turn to your neighbor
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  and say, no, I absolutely refuse.
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  I do too.
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  And it drives Nathan insane.
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  I just, I'm not going to, no, I'm not going to do that.
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  It's not kindergarten.
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  We're not repeating after me.
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  I never do.
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  Okay.
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  The woman at the well, there's a Samaritan woman and she is walking to the well.
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  It's Jacob's well.
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  So this is like an ancient, I don't know how else to say ancient.
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  It's a really ancient well.
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  Find some more synonyms for ancient please.
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  Really really old.
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  So she walks out kind of in the middle of the day.
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  Now normally people would have gone out in the morning or in the evenings because it's
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  cooler.
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  Yeah.
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  Cause it's, they're in the desert.
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  It's hot.
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  They're out bleeding in the desert.
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  I'm telling you what.
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  And so she goes in the middle of the day, probably for some privacy.
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  Now there's arguments back and forth about why she would have wanted that privacy.
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  Some scholars say that she probably wasn't treated very well by the other women in her
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  community and so she didn't want to be around them.
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  I do that.
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  Yeah, I do a lot.
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  But our friend Mark, who has a fantastic blog that we've talked about in the past, she's
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  fantastic.
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  She says that there's no evidence that this woman was there to avoid other people or that
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  she was being treated poorly in her community.
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  There are other instances in the Bible of women going to the well at random times of
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  the day.
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  Yeah.
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  Hey, sometimes you just need water.
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  Yeah.
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  And potentially just today specifically, she wanted some privacy.
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  She just wanted a quiet walk.
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  Maybe her kids were driving her crazy.
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  Maybe the chickens got out and she just ran away.
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  She just left that problem for someone else.
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  So she goes out to the well.
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  And I want to talk through, I want to say, tell this story from a feminist perspective,
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  but I think more tell this story from the perspective of a woman.
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  Yeah.
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  I think sometimes it's really hard to put Bible stories, to make them real in your head
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  because it's so far removed.
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  How often are we in what century are we in?
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  The 21st?
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  Yes.
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  Now, obviously other places, they are walking to wells.
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  I don't want to, you know what I'm trying to say.
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  But us sitting here in the United States.
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  I can go downstairs and get a bottle of water.
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  Right.
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  But let's make it something more real in our heads.
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  You're stopping at a gas station.
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  Yeah.
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  Perfect.
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  So let's say as a woman, you're stopping at a gas station.
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  I did that today, but not for gas.
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  Now you're specifically going at a time where nobody else is going to be around.
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  Late at night.
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  Late at night.
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  She walks to the well or you walk to the gas station or drive to the gas station.
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  And as she gets there, there is a singular man there.
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  Now men should not be at this well.
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  Okay.
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  Men don't come to the well and get the water.
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  That's the women's job.
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  Very, very rarely are you going to see a man at this well.
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  Imagine if you're at a gas station, the middle of the night, you pull in and there's a singular
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  man just chilling.
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  He's not pumping gas.
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  He's not doing the thing he's supposed to be at the gas station for.
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  He doesn't even have a car.
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  Yeah.
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  He's just standing there.
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  Okay.
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  You're terrified.
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  I would be terrified.
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  I would pull my car back out and leave.
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  I'd say, I'll let this thing run out of gas before I stop here.
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  But she probably doesn't have that option.
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  I mean, water is non-negotiable.
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  And also you're walking.
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  It's not like you're going to be like, I'll come back later.
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  Catch you next time.
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  No.
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  So she has to go into this situation that probably to her feels very threatening, very
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  scary.
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  At the very least, she's uncomfortable.
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  Yeah.
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  If she had come at a different time of day, there would be other women around.
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  Even if there was a man in the mix, like, okay, but there's witnesses, right?
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  There's not anybody.
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  It's just her and him.
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  Yep.
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  And she gets there and Jesus doesn't even have a cup or anything to drink from the well.
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  He doesn't have a bucket to get water out of the well.
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  He has nothing.
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  He's just suspiciously hanging out as a man somewhere he shouldn't be in the middle of
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  the day.
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  Now as she walks up to him, the next thing that she notices is that he's Jewish.
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  Now she's a Samaritan woman and the Samaritans were-
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  At odds with.
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  They were at odds with the Jewish people, but they came from the same ancestors.
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  It's like in Harry Potter, how they call the people who have one wizard parent and one
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  human parent, they call them half-bloods.
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  It's like that.
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  So she was someone who had some Jewish descent and some non-Jewish descent.
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  I love that so far we've referenced this very popular historical Bible story with a gas
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  station in Harry Potter.
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  How can we make this real to you?
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  That sounds on par with everything in my life.
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  Yeah, I like Harry Potter.
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  So she walks up to him and she sees that he's a Jewish man.
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  Now I don't know how she recognizes this.
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  I don't know if there was a large difference in looks or in clothes or anything like that.
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  And super interesting thing about the Jewish people at the time is that most of the religious
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  Jewish people would avoid Samaria completely.
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  So when they were on their journeys to get wherever they were going, walking.
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  They would go around Samaria.
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  It's like two extra days of walking.
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  That's how much they disliked these people, okay?
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  I cannot think of anyone, and I don't like a lot of people, but I can't think of anyone
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  I dislike enough to walk two additional days just to avoid them.
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  Although I will go out of my way to go to a different Starbucks, just because I like
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  the coffee.
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  But the coffee's better.
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  It's not the people, it's the coffee's better.
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  The people are nicer there too.
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  A little bit.
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  My best friend is there.
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  Best friend, if you're listening.
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  Hey bestie.
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  You make really good coffee.
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  I'm sure you don't know my name.
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  They know my name.
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  I'm mobile owner.
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  So she gets there, Jesus is there, he's a Jewish man.
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  In my mind, all of these things say I'm in a dangerous situation.
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  Because if she's, let's say, and I'm not going to use Jesus in this example, but let's
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  say it's a different man, and he attacks her, and she takes that to the Jewish authorities,
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  they're not going to listen to her.
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  Not only is she a Samaritan who they don't like, she's a woman.
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  The testimony of a woman at the time, it's well documented, was literally not considered
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  truthful.
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  It wasn't considered evidence of any kind.
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  They barely considered women people.
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  So there's no way anybody's caring if she gets attacked.
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  So the story, as we go on, the way that I have been told it is, and I've heard this
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  preached a thousand times, pastors will often talk about her as though she's really rude
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  to Jesus.
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  And you'll see where that comes from in a second.
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  Or really sassy with Jesus, or she's got an attitude, or whatever.
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  But I want to put forth as you listen to what their conversation is that she's scared.
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  She's on the defensive already.
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  And I don't know about you, but in my life, when I get into situations like that, I do
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  one of two things.
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  If someone comments something to me and I feel uncomfortable and unsafe, I try and laugh
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  it off and diffuse the situation that way and get out as quickly as possible.
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  Before I get angry and try and push that person away as quickly as possible.
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  You'll puff up your peacock feathers and make yourself as big as possible.
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  And say, get out of the way.
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  I'm big and scary.
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  All five feet of me.
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  And so I think in my mind, and this is just conjecture from Alyssa, I think she's scared.
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  I think she's really scared.
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  Additionally, and we'll get into it, she has all kinds of background with men that's scary.
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  And she probably has no trust for men at all.
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  And now here's a man that she really, really, really shouldn't trust.
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  And of course we have the benefit of knowing it's Jesus.
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  But she didn't know that.
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  She didn't know.
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  Even if he said, my name's Jesus, that means nothing to her at the time.
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  She's like, awesome, my brother's name is Jesus.
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  Also, Samaritans didn't practice quite the same religion as the Jewish people.
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  My understanding is it was kind of like a hybrid kind of how they were partially Jewish
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  and partially not, because they were not allowed in the temples.
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  The Jewish people wouldn't let them in there.
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  So even if somehow she, and she does know a little bit as the story goes on, even if
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  she did know, okay, this is kind of the Jewish religion, she wouldn't have all that connection.
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  Also, she's a woman, so she wouldn't have been allowed to be educated in religion.
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  So Jesus starts talking to her, right?
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  And the first thing he does is ask her for a drink.
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  And this is, so I'm pulling some of this from Marg's article, and he asks her for a drink
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  and she's shocked that he's speaking to her at all.
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  And again, now you're on the defensive.
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  Imagine that you pull up to the gas station, there's the single man over there and you're
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  just trying to pump your gas as fast as possible and you are like, things are fumbling and
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  you're trying to get your credit card in there.
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  And then he walks over to you, there's nobody else around.
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  He walks over to you and starts talking to you and he asks, hey, can you come pump the
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  gas in my car?
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  I didn't bring anything to pump gas with, I didn't bring a car, but can you come help
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  me?
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  Have you seen that?
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  Here we go.
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  Have you seen that TikTok?
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  Oh my gosh.
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  It's just like security footage of a gas station and this person was pumping their gas and
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  a van pulls up and a bunch of people jump out, try to mug the guy and he takes the gas
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  out of the car and sprays it into their car and in their faces.
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  That's what I would do in that moment.
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  Yeah, because you've seen the TikTok.
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  See, TikTok is educational, ladies and gentlemen.
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  Sure, sure it is.
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  Actually I've seen some really great TikToks lately.
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  Yeah, you zip it.
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  So anyway, so he asks her for a drink and I find this fascinating.
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  So in Marg's article, she talks about the fact that, so the woman basically says, how
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  can you ask me for this?
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  You're Jewish, you're a man.
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  You shouldn't even be talking to me.
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  She points this out to him again on the defensive, leave me alone.
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  Stop speaking to me.
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  I'm scared.
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  And so the words that are used depending on the translation are, she says, Jews do not
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  associate or have dealings with Samaritans depending on the translation.
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  So the Greek word for associate, I'm going to butcher this, okay?
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  We all knew you're going to.
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  So it's sugchromai.
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  Say it again for the people in the back.
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  Nope.
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  And it also means the sharing of eating utensils and dishes.
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  Okay.
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  So I think back to segregation.
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  That's kind of a similar feel here.
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  And I love breaking that apart because I've never heard anyone explain it that way.
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  No, that's really interesting.
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  Yeah.
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  Like, don't touch my bucket.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, he would have thought she was unclean.
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  And it goes into that later.
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  So this is fascinating.
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  So the Jews have all these rules about when women are on their periods, right?
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  Bleeding in the desert.
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  When you're on your period, you are considered unclean for the entire time.
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  Nobody can touch you.
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  Like you're a pariah for seven days out of the month, which maybe is not terrible.
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  Maybe you get to be alone.
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  And then you have to go through a whole cleansing ritual in order to be able to be allowed back
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  in the temple, to be able to be allowed back in society.
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  I'm not even kidding.
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  It's for real.
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  So the Jews regarded Samaritan women as, and this is a quote, menstruants from the cradle.
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  Oh my gosh.
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  Oh my gosh.
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  So can we title the podcast?
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  Menstruants from the cradle.
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  No.
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  Oh.
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  So that would have meant that she was always considered unclean by them.
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  A hundred percent of the time.
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  Constantly bleeding from the day she was birthed, literally from the cradle.
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  Man, what a life.
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  So she's, there's no reason Jesus should be talking to her here.
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  He shouldn't be here.
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  He shouldn't be in her country.
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  He shouldn't be at her well.
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  He should not be anywhere in the vicinity.
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  Did you bring me here?
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  Did you rub my lip?
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  So Jesus starts talking to her.
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  She says, why are you speaking to me?
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  And Jesus starts talking about living water.
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  Now the metaphor here, so he says this well, you're going to drink from it and you're going
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  to be hungry.
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  I'm sorry, thirsty again.
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  You probably always be hungry.
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  You leave thirsty again.
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  But I have living water and if you drink this living water, you'll never be thirsty again,
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  right?
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  Now I want you to go back to the gas station.
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  Okay.
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  I'm closing my eyes.
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  I'm back at the gas station.
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  You're trying to pump your gas.
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  You're trying to go as quick as possible.
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  This man comes up to you.
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  He's like, help me out.
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  You're like, no, me, me.
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  And then he starts talking like a psycho.
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  Okay.
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  Now they have this gas at my house.
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  That's the best gas you'll ever have.
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  Okay.
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  So we're making light of it.
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  But the point is, it sounds really crazy.
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  What he's saying.
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  And there's no precedent for this in the Bible that I can find this whole living water metaphor
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  in the Old Testament in anything.
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  And she probably wouldn't have been familiar with that anyway, but it wasn't even there.
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  This is a fresh concept.
• 21:24
  Yeah.
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  And Jesus, he's a little confusing sometimes.
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  He talks in these parables and yes, with the benefit of time, we can sit here and pull
• 21:33
  them apart.
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  Right.
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  But she's standing there and this man is talking crazy talk.
• 21:39
  And she's already scared of him.
• 21:40
  And now he's talking about water that you're never thirsty with and gas that will fill
• 21:47
  up your car until the end of time.
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  I want that gas.
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  He's got a Tesla at home.
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  He doesn't need any gas.
• 21:57
  So he starts talking about this and she's like, okay, I'm going to go with you here.
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  Right.
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  Now I again, Alyssa's translation of things, you take this however you want.
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  But my thought is I'm going to pacify this man.
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  I'm going to use the situation to get out of this alive.
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  I'm going to smile and nod.
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  And so she kind of does.
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  And she asks him, okay, where can I get this living water?
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  Now interestingly, living water in a way meant flowing water.
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  So that might've been how she understood it, like a river.
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  So many songs just went through my head.
• 22:41
  Did you want to sing one of them?
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  I hear it's flowing with milk and honey.
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  Sounds sticky.
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  Cause we're going to the promised land.
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  Hey, hey.
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  Wow.
• 22:53
  Those veggie tales in case any of you had a sad childhood and didn't see it.
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  The only reason that came to my head was the word flowing.
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  I thought we were going to get a period joke.
• 23:06
  Oh, I could do that too.
• 23:08
  We should really warn dad and Brandon at least.
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  Don't listen.
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  I don't care.
• 23:15
  That's going to go somewhere else with that.
• 23:19
  And that's where it landed.
• 23:21
  So this story is, it's a very long story, right?
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  This is actually, interestingly, the longest recorded conversation that Jesus has.
• 23:30
  The longest recorded one.
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  And so she says, where can I get this living water?
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  And Jesus would have made me a lot even more uncomfortable.
• 23:42
  And he says, well, go get your husband.
• 23:44
  We'll talk more about it.
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  Which wouldn't have been that weird for the time because realistically they shouldn't
• 23:50
  have been talking anyway.
• 23:53
  So maybe she's like, maybe this would have been a normal statement to say, okay, we've
• 24:02
  talked too much.
• 24:04
  I'd love to keep chatting about this with you, but it would be more appropriate if you
• 24:08
  brought your husband.
• 24:09
  Right.
• 24:10
  Because of the time.
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  Yeah.
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  So she says to Jesus, I don't have a husband.
• 24:15
  I would say the same thing to Jesus.
• 24:17
  Now she, again, whenever I've heard this preached, it's like being really sassy, right?
• 24:26
  That's not indicated in the Bible.
• 24:28
  It's kind of like a text message where you, when you're reading the Bible, like you don't
• 24:31
  know what the tone of voice was.
• 24:34
  It's not even the same language.
• 24:37
  Emojis were created.
• 24:38
  They didn't have them back then.
• 24:39
  They didn't have emojis.
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  No.
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  They didn't have emojis.
• 24:42
  They had faces.
• 24:43
  So she tells this to Jesus and Jesus basically says, yeah, you're right.
• 24:50
  You don't have a husband.
• 24:52
  You've had five husbands.
• 24:54
  And I'm trying to do this in such a tone that is conveyed in the Bible because there's no
• 24:57
  judgment from Jesus.
• 24:59
  No.
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  He's just stating a fact.
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  Yep.
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  There's no condemnation whatsoever.
• 25:04
  And he says, you're right.
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  You don't have a husband.
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  You've had five husbands.
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  And the man that you're with now is not your husband.
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  Just matter of fact.
• 25:15
  Okay.
• 25:16
  So now you're back at the gas station.
• 25:18
  I'm back at the gas station.
• 25:20
  The man has come up to you.
• 25:21
  He said, back at my house, I've got a Tesla.
• 25:26
  It doesn't need any gas if you want to come back with me.
• 25:31
  And then he starts telling you the deepest, darkest secrets about yourself that he absolutely
• 25:37
  should not know.
• 25:39
  Brianna, you've had 17 boyfriends.
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  That's not true.
• 25:45
  That's not true at all.
• 25:50
  Teresa, you've had 49 boyfriends.
• 25:54
  Sorry, mom.
• 25:57
  And she gets scared probably again.
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  Now it doesn't say that, but I'm just thinking in this scenario, you would have to be.
• 26:08
  It's frightening, right?
• 26:10
  The stranger man is talking to me.
• 26:13
  He shouldn't be.
• 26:14
  He's talking a lot of nonsense.
• 26:16
  And now he's a psychic.
• 26:18
  He's that so raven.
• 26:20
  But he knows way too intimate details about her life.
• 26:24
  Probably details.
• 26:25
  Now, it doesn't say that she's ashamed of these things necessarily.
• 26:29
  Some people have assumed that because she's at the well in the middle of the day, that
• 26:33
  that means people aren't nice to her.
• 26:35
  People are crossing the street to avoid her, and so she's ashamed of her past.
• 26:40
  There's really nothing to indicate that.
• 26:43
  However, it's probably not something she was advertising.
• 26:47
  So you probably would have had to know her for quite a long time to know, yeah, she's
• 26:51
  been through five husbands at this point, and now she's with someone who isn't her
• 26:56
  husband.
• 26:57
  And it doesn't indicate what that relationship looks like.
• 26:59
  It doesn't mean she's sleeping with him.
• 27:01
  But really, there's no, again, there's no judgment from Jesus.
• 27:06
  And Jesus at no point to her says, go and repent, or go and sin no more.
• 27:13
  He doesn't say that, and that's significant because he said that to other people.
• 27:17
  He does not say that to her.
• 27:19
  So there's no indication of wrongdoing on her part in this, but she gets shamed all
• 27:24
  the time.
• 27:25
  S-L-U-T, isn't that a song?
• 27:31
  Yeah, sweet little unforgettable thing.
• 27:34
  Thank you.
• 27:35
  You're welcome.
• 27:37
  Marg's article then goes on to say that her history fits a pattern that would be common
• 27:45
  for women of her time.
• 27:46
  She got married probably in her early teens.
• 27:51
  And I know that's- Just like our great grandmother.
• 27:53
  Yeah.
• 27:54
  She was a little icky, but it was common at the time.
• 27:57
  That was expected.
• 28:00
  So she probably got married very, very young.
• 28:03
  And from there, the Samaritan laws- And I tried to look up specifically what the Samaritan
• 28:09
  laws for divorce would have been.
• 28:11
  And all I was able to find- There's not, I mean, there's not a lot of historical context
• 28:16
  here.
• 28:17
  I'm sure if I dug real far that I probably could.
• 28:20
  But it says in the first century, Samaritan divorce laws were based on the Torah, which
• 28:25
  was the first few chapters of the Bible.
• 28:29
  And they gave the husband almost complete power to initiate a divorce.
• 28:34
  When it's presented at church, in the churches I've been in, it's so often, well, she divorced
• 28:42
  all these men.
• 28:43
  She went through a bunch of men because she wanted to sleep around.
• 28:46
  And so here she is.
• 28:48
  Or even if they're not saying that, it's kind of implied that something was wrong with her,
• 28:55
  that the men didn't want to stay in her life.
• 28:58
  And the reality is men had full power to divorce women.
• 29:04
  She would not have had almost any power at all to divorce her husbands.
• 29:10
  But they would have had almost complete power to divorce her with zero repercussions.
• 29:18
  They're either dead or they're divorcing her.
• 29:21
  So imagine the heartbreak.
• 29:25
  Because also once you have been married and then you're no longer married, you almost
• 29:31
  have to get married again quickly in that society.
• 29:35
  Because otherwise, again, you're an outcast.
• 29:38
  Women wouldn't have had a lot of options for making money.
• 29:42
  So once she had been married and was no longer married, whether it was through divorce or
• 29:47
  death, her option was essentially to either become a prostitute or live on the streets
• 29:56
  as- Begging.
• 29:57
  Yeah.
• 29:58
  Or to get married again.
• 29:59
  Yeah.
• 30:00
  Those were her options.
• 30:01
  So once you go through the first divorce or death, you've got three options.
• 30:08
  Go through the second divorce or death, three options.
• 30:10
  None of them are good options.
• 30:13
  But this is all survival.
• 30:15
  So now think of the crazy man at the gas station.
• 30:19
  I don't like to refer to this as like Jesus is crazy, but in her mind that had to have
• 30:24
  been kind of what the thought process was.
• 30:27
  He tugs on the most sensitive, painful part of your life.
• 30:34
  Not because you've done anything wrong, but because you have been hurt by everyone in
• 30:40
  that story.
• 30:42
  You have been ripped to shreds.
• 30:45
  I would guess it's probably a combination of death and divorces.
• 30:50
  Unless she's a black widow, baby.
• 30:54
  The divorces, I think, it would have hurt in a deeper way because they tossed her to
• 31:01
  the side.
• 31:02
  Whether it was- It was a choice to leave.
• 31:04
  Yep.
• 31:05
  Death really isn't a choice.
• 31:07
  She wasn't important enough for them to keep in their lives.
• 31:11
  And so Jesus is going into this and she's like, ah!
• 31:19
  And the only thing that she can make sense of is that maybe he's a prophet.
• 31:25
  So a prophet at that time, or prophecy now also, it would be as though God gave you a
• 31:35
  message for someone.
• 31:37
  God gave you information about this person.
• 31:38
  It came straight from God.
• 31:39
  You have no way of knowing it before or after.
• 31:43
  It just came, words came straight from heaven out your mouth.
• 31:47
  So that's what she's assuming is happening here.
• 31:50
  And prophets would have been more common back then.
• 31:52
  I don't think they were common common, but more common at the time.
• 31:57
  Particularly within the Jewish religion, we see that happen several times.
• 32:01
  So in John 419, she says, sir, I see you are a prophet.
• 32:07
  So she directly says, you're a prophet.
• 32:10
  And Jesus, he starts talking about religion.
• 32:14
  When John 421 says, Jesus told her, believe me, woman, an hour is coming when you will
• 32:19
  worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.
• 32:23
  You Samaritans worship what you do not know.
• 32:25
  We worship what we do know because salvation is from the Jews.
• 32:28
  So he's talking about the Jewish religion specifically and how the Samaritan religion
• 32:32
  has broken off from that and it's different.
• 32:35
  And then verse 23, but an hour is coming and is now here when the true worshipers will
• 32:39
  worship the Father in spirit and in truth.
• 32:42
  Yes, the Father wants such people to worship him.
• 32:44
  God is spirit and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.
• 32:48
  And again, it's a little confusing.
• 32:50
  The wording is a little confusing.
• 32:52
  I would recommend looking it up in.
• 32:54
  I like the message for stuff like this to just which is a version of the Bible.
• 32:59
  It's not a translation.
• 33:00
  It's a like a story.
• 33:03
  It's written a little differently.
• 33:04
  It's supposed to be written more in like modern English.
• 33:06
  So it's a little easier to understand.
• 33:08
  So then she says, no, I know.
• 33:12
  I know the Messiah is coming.
• 33:13
  I've been waiting on this too.
• 33:16
  So again, the Samaritan people kind of knew some of this information.
• 33:19
  So she says, I know that's happening.
• 33:22
  And when the Messiah comes, when God's Son comes, he'll explain all of this to us.
• 33:28
  He'll explain to us how to get to heaven, how to worship better, how to become one people,
• 33:35
  whatever it is that she's hoping for in the future.
• 33:39
  And Jesus says, so this is verse 26.
• 33:42
  Jesus told her, I the one speaking to you, am he.
• 33:47
  I don't think that the gas station analogy works anymore.
• 33:50
  So I'm gonna let it go.
• 33:53
  Man at the gas station.
• 33:56
  It's fine.
• 33:59
  Turns out he's actually Jesus.
• 34:00
  Now I think the gas station analogy is so good because it allows us to put her in context
• 34:07
  and think of her as a real human person in our time.
• 34:10
  But at the end of the day, she's actually talking to Jesus.
• 34:14
  And this is the first recorded time that Jesus ever tells anybody that he's the Son of God.
• 34:21
  How cool.
• 34:22
  That's so cool.
• 34:23
  It's so cool.
• 34:24
  To a lady person.
• 34:25
  I feel like a nerd.
• 34:28
  I've always said that about you.
• 34:29
  You have always said that about me.
• 34:31
  From the day you were born.
• 34:33
  You weren't there the day I was born.
• 34:35
  Menstruating.
• 34:36
  Anyway, I just think that's really cool.
• 34:43
  Here she is, someone, whether she's an outcast from society or not, someone that hadn't had
• 34:50
  it easy.
• 34:53
  Someone that had struggled.
• 34:55
  And her story, which she probably at the time felt was so insignificant.
• 35:00
  And probably how everybody in this world feels at some point.
• 35:03
  Your story doesn't matter.
• 35:05
  You're a little ant on a log just floating along.
• 35:10
  And her story is recorded in the Bible.
• 35:13
  And people talk about it for years and years and years.
• 35:16
  That's incredible.
• 35:17
  It is incredible.
• 35:20
  When you think of your life and you're going through the hardest moments, it doesn't feel
• 35:25
  like you're important.
• 35:28
  And yet here she is.
• 35:30
  And she's talking to her creator.
• 35:34
  And she doesn't know it right away.
• 35:35
  But then she does.
• 35:37
  And she believes him.
• 35:39
  Now if I'm talking to the man at the gas station, I don't know that I'm believing him when he
• 35:44
  says he's Jesus.
• 35:45
  But I think that God probably gave her a supernatural understanding of that.
• 35:50
  Yes, exactly.
• 35:51
  But you have to think also, I love to dig into the background of it.
• 35:56
  And again, this is guesses and assumptions.
• 35:58
  But I would think God had been preparing her for that moment.
• 36:03
  She talks about the fact that she knows about the Messiah.
• 36:07
  She's waiting for him.
• 36:09
  Once he gets there, he'll explain it.
• 36:10
  So she has some background knowledge.
• 36:13
  She didn't just randomly show up here.
• 36:15
  Jesus didn't just randomly show up here.
• 36:18
  Choices were made on both sides to wind them up at this point.
• 36:22
  I hate to say this, but everything happens for a reason.
• 36:28
  Maybe she slept in late that day.
• 36:29
  Right.
• 36:30
  She's like, ah, piss, piss, piss.
• 36:33
  I need some freaking water.
• 36:36
  I might as well go now.
• 36:40
  It's hot.
• 36:41
  I don't really want to, but I'll go.
• 36:44
  Well, and then Jesus, and I think it's tough because Jesus is fully God and fully human.
• 36:51
  So did Jesus know when he made the choice to tell his disciples, no, we're going through
• 36:55
  some area, we're not cutting around the way everybody else does, we're going straight
• 36:59
  through?
• 37:00
  No, I'm going to have this encounter with this woman.
• 37:05
  Did he plan for this moment to be the moment that he was going to reveal who he was, or
• 37:09
  did he just have a connection with this person?
• 37:12
  I think it's hard to wrap your mind around it, how you think of the three in one.
• 37:17
  You understand it, but you don't understand it.
• 37:21
  If you think too hard about it, you're going to get your brain in knots.
• 37:24
  I think Jesus was fully God and fully human, so it was kind of a blend of both maybe.
• 37:30
  Like he knew, but he didn't know, but he knew.
• 37:33
  And if you're confused about the three in one thing, that's a very churchy thing where
• 37:40
  we talk about the Trinity, which is God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, who are like three people
• 37:46
  in one person.
• 37:47
  I don't know, it's very confusing.
• 37:50
  I bet you if you Google it, AI has a great answer.
• 37:53
  I bet it does, and we're not going to go into it because I don't have another four hours
• 37:56
  to explain or to understand it myself.
• 38:00
  It's a lot.
• 38:01
  It's a lot.
• 38:03
  So the rest of her story goes that she believes him.
• 38:09
  She says, great, awesome, give me that living water.
• 38:13
  This is super cool.
• 38:15
  And she can't hold it in.
• 38:18
  She runs back to her village.
• 38:19
  Now it doesn't say, did she say goodbye or did she just turn and book it?
• 38:24
  She forgot.
• 38:26
  So she goes and she runs to her town, and the implication is that Jesus and his disciples
• 38:30
  are eventually going to go through her town, so she's going to see him again.
• 38:35
  But she goes to her town, who are Samaritan people who have been hurt by the Jewish people,
• 38:42
  and she's telling all these people, there's this group of Jewish people.
• 38:46
  And I'm not going to say Jewish men because we're also female women, not female women,
• 38:52
  but female female disciples following along.
• 38:56
  So there's a group of Jewish people, again, who should not have been there.
• 39:01
  The Samaritan people hate the Jewish people.
• 39:03
  The Jewish people hate the Samaritan people.
• 39:05
  And she's running in like, hey, hooray, the Jewish people are coming.
• 39:09
  And they're like, hmm.
• 39:10
  Like settle down.
• 39:11
  Pass.
• 39:12
  What's wrong with you?
• 39:14
  Do we need to start a war party?
• 39:17
  It's probably not a positive reaction.
• 39:21
  And we don't know what her status was in the community, but whatever it was, she threw
• 39:26
  it all to the side and probably embarrassed herself running around shouting through the
• 39:32
  streets.
• 39:33
  Now she's the crazy person.
• 39:35
  We all got to be crazy.
• 39:37
  And she's like, the Messiah is here.
• 39:40
  We've heard about him, and he's walking down the street.
• 39:43
  He's behind me.
• 39:44
  You see him in the distance?
• 39:46
  He doesn't have a bucket for the well, but he's here.
• 39:51
  It's as she immediately left her water jug and goes into town.
• 39:54
  So she didn't have a water jug either.
• 39:56
  So because of her, tons of people in her town believe that testimony.
• 40:00
  And it does say that like God intervened and people believed her.
• 40:07
  Instead of these two warring people groups fighting as one went through town, they believed
• 40:14
  her.
• 40:15
  And Jesus, when he came, she preached alongside the disciples.
• 40:21
  And now instead of her story being, you've had five husbands and the man you're with
• 40:27
  now is not your husband, instead of that story, and I hope we can redeem her in a way because
• 40:32
  that's so much to focus when you hear this in church services, instead of that, her story
• 40:39
  is preaching.
• 40:40
  I met the Messiah.
• 40:44
  And I'm going to tell the world about it.
• 40:47
  And the world is going to remember that forever.
• 40:51
  She went and she preached the gospel to all of her people.
• 40:56
  And we don't know what happens to her after that.
• 40:58
  Did she keep preaching the gospel?
• 41:00
  Did she get married for a sixth time?
• 41:04
  Or seventh or eighth.
• 41:06
  We don't know.
• 41:07
  We don't know the rest of her story.
• 41:08
  But we know in this moment, Jesus found her so valuable that he chose her to tell the
• 41:20
  most important truth ever in the history of anything.
• 41:25
  Some could say, our one true calling as men and women to share, preach and teach the gospel.
• 41:36
  I read a really interesting piece one time and I'm trying to remember how I wrote it.
• 41:42
  I want to say it was like Beth Helles and Bart, but I'm not sure enough to say that
• 41:48
  for sure.
• 41:49
  But I read an article and she had a seminar at a conference and it was about sharing your
• 41:57
  faith.
• 41:58
  It wasn't even necessarily about preaching.
• 41:59
  It was about sharing your faith.
• 42:02
  And it was at the same time as a cookie making seminar.
• 42:07
  It was Beth.
• 42:08
  It's in her book.
• 42:09
  Was it Beth?
• 42:10
  It was like a women's retreat and there was different classes.
• 42:13
  And there was one for sharing the gospel or whatever, sharing your story, and there was
• 42:17
  one for cookie making.
• 42:19
  And they put them at the same time.
• 42:21
  And so her seminar was so poorly attended.
• 42:24
  There were very few people there to hear about sharing the word of God.
• 42:31
  Because most of them wanted to go bake cookies.
• 42:33
  And look, I love cookies.
• 42:34
  Don't get me wrong.
• 42:35
  I'll eat a whole plate full of cookies.
• 42:38
  Love a cookie.
• 42:41
  I would prefer someone else make them for me.
• 42:44
  But I love a cookie.
• 42:45
  Although I love cookie dough.
• 42:46
  Oh, cookie dough is great.
• 42:48
  We have frozen cookie dough balls at work and then we bake them for people like fresh
• 42:55
  baked cookies when you come to the dentist office.
• 42:58
  That's really a good selling point for us.
• 43:01
  But sometimes we break into the freezer and just eat the cookie dough.
• 43:07
  That sounds like a good time to me.
• 43:08
  It is a good time.
• 43:09
  Back to Beth.
• 43:10
  Back to Beth and cookies.
• 43:13
  She had a woman come up to her and say, I'm sorry I didn't come to your lecture.
• 43:19
  I would have.
• 43:21
  But really, my main calling is to nurture my family.
• 43:28
  I don't need to worry about ministering to other people, other women, other whatever.
• 43:32
  Now that's not a direct quote.
• 43:34
  It's in her book.
• 43:35
  I highly recommend.
• 43:36
  Yeah, The Making of Biblical Womanhood.
• 43:38
  So you can read all about that.
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  Definitely give that a listen or read it.
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  Whichever you prefer.
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  Grab the book by the butt and read it.
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  But I think that's the attitude of a lot of women in Christian circles because we've been
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  told our whole lives, your highest calling is your family.
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  So you don't really develop as much of a desire to go out and teach and preach God's word.
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  But I think what's important to understand is that gives me so much anxiety to think,
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  oh my true calling is to share the word of God.
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  But I think you just have to pray about it.
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  I think you have to say, God, if you want me to share your good news, give me an opportunity
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  and put those words in my head because they're not coming out my mouth from my head.
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  But I think it's also important to remember that God knows who you are.
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  So it's like you and I right now, I wouldn't think I'm fulfilling my greatest calling,
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  but look what we're doing.
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  We're sharing the word of God from the comfort of my bedroom.
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  It's a little hot.
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  It's not that comfortable.
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  I remember in vacation Bible school when we were little, they gave you little ribbons
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  and awards and whatever.
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  I loved those ribbons.
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  I did too.
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  I loved those ribbons.
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  And I would get all of them because I would memorize.
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  I was like the good student, right?
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  So I memorized all the verses.
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  I did all the things, but there was one and it was like, invite a friend.
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  And that gave me, I was, I couldn't have been more than eight.
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  That gave me a level of anxiety I cannot describe to you because I am an introverted introvert
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  who introverts, okay?
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  That should go on his shirt.
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  We could have so much merch.
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  Piss, piss, piss.
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  Piss, piss, piss.
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  I've always said that.
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  Introverted, introverted, who introverts?
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  I love it.
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  I have a shirt that has introvert embroidered on it, but I really am like that is who I
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  am as a person.
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  I don't like going out and initiating chats with people.
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  I just, I can't.
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  And even growing up as people are like, share your testimony, share God's word, share whatever.
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  I'm like, no thank you.
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  I don't want to do that.
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  But God made me who I am.
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  God made me an introvert and he didn't make me wrong.
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  No.
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  He didn't make him.
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  Well.
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  Shut up.
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  I think a lot of times in the church extroverted people are really raised up and like, look
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  at them, they're amazing.
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  And they are amazing, but so are introverted people.
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  People are amazing.
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  Period.
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  No buts.
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  Yeah.
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  God made introverted people.
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  And in that, what I never expected was that God would give me an outlet to share his word
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  here.
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  She's pointing at the computer.
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  Here on this podcast.
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  I just think it's really cool that when you feel like you don't have a purpose anymore,
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  when you feel like your tragedies are too much or your personality is too much or whatever
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  it happens to be, that God has so much for you that Jesus would come up to you and reveal
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  to you the first time that he was the son of God.
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  And it's going to be shaped uniquely for you and all of the attributes that you possess.
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  It doesn't matter if you're extroverted or introverted.
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  It doesn't matter if you're short or tall or if you've been married five times.
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  No.
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  If you've been not married at all, God is going to find your purpose and he's going
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  to shape it around all those little unique things about you individually that he knows
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  about you.
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  He knows every hair on your head or the lack thereof.
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  And I think it's important to remember that not just he knows it, he made you.
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  Like a potter with a lump of clay.
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  I did a lot of ceramics and not a lot came out of that.
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  I know.
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  I used to imagine, because I have super curly hair and I've said that before, but when I
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  was a kid, for some reason, this image was always in my head that when God was making
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  me up in heaven, like I imagined little tiny toddler me, I don't know why I was a toddler
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  instead of a baby, but I was a toddler.
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  And you didn't know where babies came from.
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  Nope, did not.
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  I imagined that God took each piece of my hair around his finger and twisted it around
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  and that's why it was curly.
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  That is so sweet.
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  I really do.
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  Oh my gosh.
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  You know, I wanted to die young, so I would be young in heaven because I thought it would
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  be more fun than being old with like bad knees.
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  Our stories are very different.
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  We need to go to bed.
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  Time to sit.
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  Okay.
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  Because that was kind of my image in my head as a kid and that was me feeling God's love
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  very deeply as just a little kid.
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  So I hope that you can think of yourself like that.
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  Whatever type of image you want to use that God created every aspect of you.
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  He created your physical being, but also emotionally who you are.
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  Your soul.
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  Yeah.
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  I think in an episode recently, any flaws that you may see in yourself, God created.
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  God put them in there knowing that you would be exactly who you are and still having, not
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  in spite of it, but because of it, having all these plans for you.
• 49:26
  Maybe we should be a little bit kinder to ourselves.
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  When you look in the mirror, say, God made me special and he loves me very much.
• 49:35
  Oh, but really I think we spend so much of our lives worrying, especially women, worrying
• 49:41
  about all of the flaws that we see in ourselves rather than being like, I'm beautiful and
• 49:48
  I'm kind and I'm moderately smart.
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  And people see that as being vain, conceited, but it's not.
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  If you're beautiful, you got to show it off.
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  God never said, put yourself down.
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  He never said be less than I made you.
• 50:07
  You'd be putting God down, really.
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  God made you smart.
• 50:10
  God made you beautiful.
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  God put you in the position you're in, in the place you're in, in the community you're
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  in, all for a purpose.
• 50:18
  And that's so easy to preach it.
• 50:20
  It's so much harder to live it.
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  For sure.
• 50:22
  For sure.
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  Because I'm saying these things and I, in the back of my mind, I'm like, I'm nearly
• 50:28
  years old and I've done nothing.
• 50:31
  I think we can all look at our lives like that.
• 50:34
  When you look at, they say this about social media, when you look at everyone else's highlight
• 50:38
  reel versus your worst moments.
• 50:41
  Yes.
• 50:42
  So true.
• 50:43
  Everybody has totally different paths.
• 50:45
  And we're going to talk about that a little bit in some other episodes.
• 50:48
  Brie's doing one, actually it'll come out before this.
• 50:50
  Done one.
• 50:51
  Brie just did one on singleness in the church and next week I'll do one on being married
• 50:56
  in the church.
• 50:57
  I think it's so funny when we call it singleness because it's so ingrained in my head that
• 51:03
  that's a dirty word.
• 51:04
  That's a sad, sad word.
• 51:05
  But it's so not.
• 51:06
  But it's not.
• 51:07
  Actually, it's very freeing.
• 51:09
  And I hope that, like I haven't recorded that episode yet.
• 51:12
  I hope I had good things to say.
• 51:14
  I'm sure you did.
• 51:16
  I'm sure you were inspirational and they all loved it.
• 51:18
  Honestly, I'm sure I was.
• 51:20
  I'm sure I cracked a joke and picked every good song.
• 51:24
  Every good song.
• 51:26
  Several by Beyonce.
• 51:27
  All right, so I'm going to wrap this up because if we don't, I'm going to have a heat stroke
• 51:31
  and die.
• 51:32
  You'll be young in heaven.
• 51:35
  Great.
• 51:36
  Not that young.
• 51:37
  You're right.
• 51:38
  Not that young.
• 51:39
  So we've been every week challenging ourselves to see if we can expand our listener base
• 51:45
  a little bit and asking you guys to share with someone in a specific place.
• 51:50
  So Brie has a specific place that she would like to share this week.
• 51:54
  Nebraska.
• 51:55
  The moon.
• 51:56
  Where else could I say?
• 51:59
  Brie, pick one place.
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  Spain.
• 52:02
  Spain!
• 52:03
  I've always loved you, Spain!
• 52:08
  So if anyone knows anyone in Spain, not the moon.
• 52:12
  We assume you don't know anyone on the moon.
• 52:14
  But if you know anyone in Spain, please do share it with them and share it with anybody
• 52:19
  that you think would enjoy our craziness and our laughter and wants just a moment of utter
• 52:27
  insanity in their lives.
• 52:29
  Go ahead and share it with them.
• 52:30
  What are you trying to say?
• 52:31
  Have you listened to these episodes?
• 52:32
  Have you ever been wanting to hang out with two fun sisters?
• 52:37
  We should have a promo video.
• 52:40
  Oh no.
• 52:41
  Did you just wish you were one of the girls?
• 52:44
  Listen to the podcast.
• 52:45
  That was a great promo.
• 52:46
  Thank you.
• 52:47
  We can't even manage to film real TikToks.
• 52:48
  No, I really struggle.
• 52:49
  Okay.
• 52:50
  So like, comment, share.
• 52:51
  And peace and blessings.
• 52:52
  We love you.
• 52:53
  Goodbye.