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Bam Bam Bangor Management Fantasy Hockey Podcast.
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Welcome back, Kevin, and welcome in one and all to Bangor
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Management, The Fantasy Hockey Podcast with Jake, Josh and
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guess who's back? He's back, Kevin.
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I'm back and I'm. 10 apparently little tan going on For anyone
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who hasn't watched on YouTube yet, now is the perfect time if
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you want to see Kevin in full vacation.
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Mode I feel like I just look super white because it's dark.
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We're recording this at night and my monitor is just like
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glaring white. I'm like, OK, I didn't even know
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you guys can see my time, but like, I'm glad you can.
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Well I mean your lighting is better than mine.
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I look frickin like yellow. No, you just gotta go dungeon
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gonna say you got like a wooden background.
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It's like authentic, you know? Yeah, exactly.
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Next year we all have to get green screens, then we can play
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around with everything. That'd be fun.
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I have a box of supply like podcasting equipment in my
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office right now, I just haven't had the time to go through it
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and figure out how it all works. But I think I've got some cool
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stuff in there from my father in.
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Law, you know, would actually be hilarious if we got a green
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screen and then we put pictures of like, you know, guys that
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torment us for the week, like Matthew Olivier's hovering over
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me, like when I play him or whatever.
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And Brad Marshawn and Adam Lowry, all the guys that we
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hate. I actually love that idea, but
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the danger in that is that that higher like that makes it more
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probable that you're actually gonna be dreaming about these
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guys. Dreaming about these guys,
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better dreams if I'm seeing them while we recorded podcast.
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That could that could be true. OK today is our week 21 news and
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would you rather episode can't wait to see what was cooked up
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for the would you rathers and the news and the news, but it's
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giving us that five star already.
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We we really appreciate it. And listen, this is the first
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week of the playoffs for a lot of people.
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So if you're listening to this, it's probably because you made
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the playoffs. And if you're in the management
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community, of course you did. We're just gonna help everybody
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win their championships, right? That's the goal.
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Yeah, exactly, exactly. And as mentioned, if you want to
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to join the Discord community. If you guys end up playing each
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other next round, that's gonna be a good place to be.
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Yeah, we should get everybody a rundown of like the playoffs in
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our league, league record, cause everybody always curious.
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Yeah, I mean, it was really looking like Kevin and I were
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gonna face each other, but then in the end I managed to to pass
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third place and jump there. So now Kevin's playing him
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instead. So you're welcome, Kevin,
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Although honestly with you probably have a better chance
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against me with my most recent injury, which we'll talk about
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in a second. But the in our league of record
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8 teams make the playoffs. Josh finished third, I finished
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fifth, Jakey finished 8th. Which honestly, Jacket ended up
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being like really, really close. Like, you know, I was doing the
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math. I was like oh you're cool.
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And then? Like he was destroyed.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Like, I mean, I guess, I guess he's the second most important.
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Well, he's out for the season. We should just dive in because
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that's like a good segue into our woes as to why we're in this
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position. But yeah.
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That we'll go through the reasons why not one of us is
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winning this year. We'll start with why I'm going
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to lose this week. And that is Leondre title for
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the second year in a row is out for the playoffs.
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This happened last year as well. He got injured the week before
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the playoffs started and was out for that entire time.
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I managed to survive the quarterfinals and then I got
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wrecked in the semis. So we'll see what happens this
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year, but it sucks, honestly. Like it's a type of thing we're
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in the moment. I'm like, I'm never getting him
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on my team again. But like, obviously that
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doesn't, you know, he's super fluky.
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Yeah, but but yeah, so he's day-to-day with an injury.
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My guess based on what I've seen is that he's probably gonna miss
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this week and then be back next week and it's like, OK, great.
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If this is a random week in the season, it's like, OK, we we
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dodge the bullet, you know, but when the season could end for us
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dry side all owners this week, it doesn't do us much good for
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him to come back next week. So it definitely sucks.
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The Power Play 1 replacement is vastly potholes in and he's been
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a bangers beast lately, so I would absolutely pick him up.
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If look, obviously they only have three games for the next
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three weeks, so it's not an exciting schedule, but being on
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Power Play 1 with McDavid and having that like double, double
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floor is just really, really nice.
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So I think that's definitely a name to watch out for.
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Yeah, I mean, I looked at the hit because I didn't see it live
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and it looked like it was just awkward.
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Like if the boards were there, you kind of would have been
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fine. But then there was no boards.
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He was like near the bench and it looked awkward.
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But they kind of like tempered our expectations afterwards.
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They were like, oh, it's not as bad as we thought, blah, blah,
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blah. So I think it's like a true day
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today. We're not going to risk it
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because the owners don't need to win games.
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Like they're not, they're not top of the division.
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They're not coasting right now. So I think that's why last
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season they were like, oh, let's just shut down dry salesman.
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See, you know, his goal record snap.
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They were like, alright, we're just shut him down for the
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playoffs. But either way, but Colson, I'm
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I'm worried that you pick him up and then they put somebody else
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on power play 1. So like, I think he's the guy,
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but I wouldn't be surprised if they end up putting somebody
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else there. It's still three games.
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If you're in a banger league, I think he's the guy that you want
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to pick up. Do you?
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How does this affect your playoff chances, Josh?
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I know the people are curious. They're always asking about our
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teams. I mean look like I.
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Mean you can make an impact. On you're not cooked.
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You can. I feel like still, I feel like I
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am. I have my excel model and it has
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with dry signal out. It has like I was just giving
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Kevin the rundown, but essentially it has almost every
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single of all like 15 categories, like dead even.
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So it really could go either way except face off some cooked
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because dry settles out. So that loses me like 50 face
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off this week. But but yeah, so essentially
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like my matchup go very much either way.
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If Tricyle was in, I'd be feeling a lot more confident,
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obviously. And I already used up and add
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this week and we only get 3. And so Kevin and I were
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discussing like, do I wait an extra day before making the free
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ad I get for dry settling on IR just to get more information?
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And I think I probably will also because I've Seth Jones possibly
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coming back this week. Anyways, a lot of stuff going
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on. I think it's pretty much gonna
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be a 5050 toss up and I think it'll probably come down to
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goalies and look really have not been nice.
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To me. Goalies have not been nice to me
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all year, so why would they start now?
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But you know, maybe there's some karma there for for me losing
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dry saddle. You know, maybe the fantasy
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hockey gods will feel bad and, and do me a solid.
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So here's what happens, we'll say.
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Update your other pick up put Colson or Jamie Benn.
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Jamie Benn by far. I mean, first of all, the
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schedule is like the four, four versus 3 I think is huge.
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And I just think that like I think Crystal is out for the
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week, but he can come back at any moment.
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So obviously if you're talking bangers like like Pickles and
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has a big edge, but I think in every other way it's and then.
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We could both around 20% owned power play 1 due to injuries on
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their team. So I feel like that's kind of
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like a decision you have to make.
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But the Ben 1 hints and Ranson are both like confirmed out
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essentially for the regular season so there I'm much more
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comfortable making that pick up. Yeah, alright, let's go on to my
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woes. Alright, next we've got Austin
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Matthews is out for the season. He got Radko Gudas, T the same
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player. Yeah, first crawdad Matthews.
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Yeah, no, it's nuts. Matias Michelli is taking his
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spot on Power Play 1. And uh, yeah.
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Just to be clear, it was radical Gus.
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It was not me. So despite what you might say, I
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did not do this. I'm not going down for this.
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For all of you guys who forgot or don't know, Jakey traded
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celebrity to Josh. Have been mentioned.
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Before episode Trustin. Matthews So yeah, yeah, if you
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if you've listened to any episode in the past three
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months, you know that that happened.
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And yeah, that sucks. It's horrible.
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I guess I gave Jackie Kucherov and he gave me Tricycle, who's
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now injured. So, you know, if we if we take
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out the injured guys from our combined trade, like I think you
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still make it, it ends up being Kucherov for celebrating
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Holloway and of it. OK, so he traded me.
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Also glosses bear. Who's who's hurt?
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Well, that's the injured guys. This is a massive, massive blow
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to my team in addition to Matthews.
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Well, there's gonna be more guys we're going to talk about.
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I mean, Gossip Bear was one of the guys you gave me, so that
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sucks. So to kind of just gloss over
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this like I'm truly cooked. But whatever, here we are
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podcasting, and I'm happy. So Matthias Mitchelli, I don't
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really put too much talk into this, although he's actually
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been OK with the opportunity that he's had.
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It's not even close to like, I mean, I would rather put Kohl's
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in I think for sure. Yeah, OK.
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But would you rather Bo grew new you centre superstar on Toronto?
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Because I'm seeing everybody be like, oh, Bo grew Bogra.
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We are we picking up guys. I don't understand how a guy has
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like 1 random good game and everyone's like Oh my God we
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have to pick him up. It's.
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Actually 3-4 decent. Three goals in four games, yeah,
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yeah, that that parts like not a thing, but his his shots and
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hits. And if you're in a face off wins
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league, that's not horrible actually.
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He's averaging almost four hits a game, almost two shots a game,
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5 faceoffs. I'm surprised you didn't pick up
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to replace Matthews. I'm surprised too.
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Honestly, I'm surprised as well. Anyway, we'll see if I managed
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to squeak through this week and I don't know, I mean, I think, I
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think my only hope of winning is picking up Cole Hudson and he
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surpasses Lane in all expectations.
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The first game of the season, he's going to be a beast and
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save everybody's. Fantasy.
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Just do it. I may.
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Just do I do not recommend but the call has been pick up.
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I'm just putting it out there. But also Jake is playing the
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first ranked team so it's like it's a hard matchup.
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This guy was in the 1st place the whole season by far.
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Yeah. But I I still think he has a
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chance. I still think Jake has a chance.
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Like, look at your teams. Like I think your team could
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arguably be better. He just has McKinnon, who plays
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four times. So yeah.
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Just yeah, just this random guy. It was like one too many
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margaritas on vacation to me. OK, let's go to the next.
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One margaritas, strawberry margaritas, some frozen, some
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not frozen. Guys, it was a blast.
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All right, Jake Sanderson of the Ottawa Senators is week to week
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with an injury. Thomas Shabbat replaces him on
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power play 1. It's a massive, massive loss.
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We talked about Sanderson, how great he's been this year and
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obviously great playoff schedule.
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They have a 344. So I'm really brutal loss.
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I think Shabbat's a huge pickup because Ottawa has one of the
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best power plays in the league. It's just crazy to me how all
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these like the top two guys in our league keep getting rewarded
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for bad choices. You know, like someone holding
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on to before holding on to Shabbat for he was holding out
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for like a month. He Shabbat should not be
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rostered until now. But look who gets rewarded the
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second place team. It just like stuff like that
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drives me nuts where like I'm like, Oh my God, this injury,
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there's a huge pickup. It's like he's already roster.
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You're like, why? I had so they would freeze them
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into still already rostered use got line of one.
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I was like, oh, this random team has already rostering him for a
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couple of weeks. So I'm in another league where
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I, eyes closed, easy, dropped Victor Hedman for Thomas
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Shabbat, would you? Do the same percent.
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Yeah, of course. Absolutely no question about it.
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We're talking Victor had been over 90.
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Is that 90% Shabbat's like you know, at around 60.
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But I feel like this is like a must pick up situation first.
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Robot sends have an amazing playoff schedule and he's proven
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to be a decent player in his career.
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Yeah, he used to be the guy before Sanderson showed up.
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So it's not like he's new to the rule.
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And in terms of like Hedman, like it's way too late in the
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season to not have adjusted to this season.
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Essentially, you know, you can't still be going off of last
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year's expectations for preseason expectations at this
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point. It's the playoffs.
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Like it's do or die. I don't care how big a name the
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guy is. I don't care how high roster
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percentage is. If he's not doing it for you
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this week or the next three weeks, drop him.
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Like it's that simple. Victor Hedman should pretty much
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be 0% roster in my opinion. Like I don't I don't see why
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anyone owns him. Darren Radish is obviously the
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guy for the rest of the season. There's only three weeks left.
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Pick up someone who's going to contribute to your team in any
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positive way. Like I don't like it.
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Just it's stuff like that where like you have to make the hard
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decisions and like you're going to look at your team.
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If you make it through the, you know, the three weeks of
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playoffs and you make it to the finals and you win or lose,
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whatever at the end of season, you're look at your team.
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Be where all these random guys on my team, you know, like, and
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why is this why I look at these amazing players on waivers?
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But like, that's what happens. Like drop Matthews.
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Obviously he's out for the season.
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You know, you know, what are you gonna see Austin Matthews on on
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waivers in the regular, like throughout the year?
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You're not, you know, like Dylan Larkin got dropped in our
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league. Like it's just that you have to
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do what you have to do to win these week by week.
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So like, you know, I don't care how big your name is, but that's
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my my unprompted rant on that. On that topic though, we've had,
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we've had a bunch of people on Discord yesterday and today
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asked can I drop Tom Wilson? A lot of tension.
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League 12 team leagues. That's that's a spoiler, but
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that's one of my hot topics, so we'll save that for the next
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episode. OK, the.
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Actually, sorry, no, it's not a hot topic.
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It was one of the male bad questions, so we're gonna get
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into that. Cold topic.
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Yeah. Exactly.
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Let's go on to the next trio of injuries because they're all on
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the same team who is so shamelessly, actively tanking
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that it's kind of crazy. But I mean, pretty OK, it's
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Florida. They've got Brad Marsh all week
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to week, Sam Reinhart week to week, Sam Bennett day-to-day.
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They're replacements on power play.
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One are Lundell, Rahegi, Samutsevich.
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That's the order, I think of which they'll get demoted as
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guys come back as well. So like Sam Smith will be the
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First off, then for Hagee, then Lundell.
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And I mean, the whole thing is the Seth Jones, right, right.
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They traded away their first round pick, but the first round
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pick is top 10 protected. So they're just like we have to
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tank to get into the top 10 so that we don't have to give
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around to give out our give away our first round pick this year.
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And it's just like it's so blatant and it's so annoying for
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fantasy. And yeah, I'm honestly, I'm
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surprised that they essentially said Jones is coming back this
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week because I like. This type so long so they can't
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they can't justify it anymore like.
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Yeah, honestly, it's gotten to that point.
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It's at the point where like a guy get, if any of these guys
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gets like day-to-day, like at this point, like all these guys,
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they like they could come back, whatever.
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Like I wouldn't hold my breath. I don't know what you guys
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think, but with how they're like they're kind of five, it reminds
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me of like, you know, like Yoshi last year, right?
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Like he got injured like 2 months out of like with the
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left. And they were just like, I mean,
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it turned out to be like kind of like serious thing.
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But I feel like if they weren't anywhere near contention, he
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could have come back at some point.
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There's like shutting him down for the season.
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There's no point. And then here you add on the
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fact of the tanking. So I think I think a lot of
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these guys might be cooked. I mean, I have some Reinhart on
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my fantasy team. I had the IR him and it was
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everything they said. No more.
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He's not gonna be on the road trip.
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The road trips like 5 games or four games.
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And it's just the whole week 21 of the fantasy season.
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So brutal blow, to be honest. And would I be surprised if they
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just say that, you know, he's not coming back And it's so
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crazy, like, Oh yeah, he was battling injuries the whole
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season, blah, blah. He didn't miss one game the
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whole year. Yeah.
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And then suddenly, like, he's like battling something hard
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enough. They have to hold him out.
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Like, listen, I know hockey players are tough and they're
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always battling. Everybody's always battling
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through something. But like Josh said, it kind of
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feels a little bit blatant that they're just like, we don't need
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to end games now. It's, it's cooked.
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Um, I'm most interested as a alternative pickup in Verhagen
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cause I think he has the highest upside for points and shots.
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Are you loving you? We've been trashing him all
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year. We did not anticipate.
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We've been trying to another deployment.
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Yeah, exactly. No, but but all kidding aside,
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he's gonna be good if he has the opportunity.
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He has been good in his career. So same.
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I mean, I think of all these guys, he's by far the most
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interesting. Lundell.
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Lundell is good too, but I like. He's been so cold, though.
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I don't know if you guys have looked at this game log like
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it's actually awful. Expected a big bump from Simon
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skittish this entire year and it just did not happen.
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So I don't know what his future looks like, you know, for this
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team or what is deployment. But if he wasn't getting
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opportunities earlier, now is his chance.
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But are they going to give him the opportunity or they just
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don't believe him at all? So I think he is the guy that I
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would like I think Lundell is like, you know, more time
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advice, better deployment, quote UN quote, but I'm not excited
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about it. So this Florida team is just I
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do not feel like his team you wanna be part of anymore.
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Like even Matthew could Chuck, I'm like, you know, you can't
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drop through the truck or can you?
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I don't know, like it's just you probably don't want to, but
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you're not getting the same guy you were expecting this whole
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season. So if if Bennett does not play
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on Tuesday, he plays again on Thursday and Friday, Do you?
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Are you dropping him considering like if he still has the
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day-to-day tag? You have to hear your matchup is
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going like if you need actual production that you can rely on,
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like you can't hope for him to play.
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I'm making that cut. Especially if you're in, if
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you're in A10 team league, I feel like these guys are easily
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replaceable. Yeah.
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But if you're in a 12 team league or 14 team league, when
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it becomes a little bit more ambiguous and it's really
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contextual. So if you guys have these guys
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on your team and you're not already in the discord, please
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join the discord. I've been answering questions
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all day today, all day yesterday, helping people out,
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making their tough, tough decisions on do I have to drop
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this big name to finally, you know, make a push for the
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playoffs? We're competing in week one of
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the fantasy playoffs, so it's tough.
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Yeah, 100% And I mean like look in leaves that have IR plus you
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just stash them, right. But I think a lot of things,
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even if you like exactly, if the league doesn't, you drop them.
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I think you just you have to win the week.
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You have to, you can't unless you're in a comfortable spot
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where you're like, you know, you're the first seed, you're
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playing the eighth seed. Your matchup is just, you have
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so many four-game weeks. They have so many whatever.
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Like some situation where you're so confident you're already
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looking forward to the next two weeks, then you could hold on to
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a guy like that. Especially Florida has a 44 the
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last two weeks. But like in general, if you're
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like in an actual like competitive week where you're
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not sure if you're gonna win or not, but having you guys not
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gonna play isn't gonna help you. And it doesn't matter how good
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he is when he comes back. Like you're saying like more
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likely than Reinhart, you know, or more?
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Likely, yeah. Marshawn, I think I think
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Reinhart has the most odds to come back.
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And maybe I'm just biased, but they said like, I'm holding him
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up for minute. They said we're holding him out
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for the road trip. So the road trip is four games.
19:13
So they were like, OK, we're planning to have him back, you
19:16
know, when we get back to Florida.
19:18
Bennett I feel like is is more ambiguous than Reinhardt that
19:21
they didn't give like a timeline for it.
19:23
So that's why I'm like, OK, but it, it, it could be both very
19:26
uncertain. Thing.
19:29
Yeah, I have no idea, but it it definitely sucks.
19:32
It's a it's a hard part of fantasy because it's like, you
19:34
know, this is kind of reasons like This is why we don't play
19:38
with week 24. And now it's like gotten to the
19:41
point where it's Week 21 and teams just.
19:43
Week 20 already. Started messing around with like
19:46
shutting down players for the season or shutting down players
19:49
until playoffs when like they can play through it and like,
19:51
you know, in terms of real hockey, like it makes sense, but
19:54
it definitely sucks in terms of fantasy because like how do you
19:56
predict that at the start of the season, right?
19:57
Like you always like saying like This is why you want to target.
20:00
Guys on teams that are fighting for playoffs.
20:02
But like even then, it's not like you could predict that.
20:05
Like who would have predicted that Edmonton would be fighting
20:07
for playoffs this year? You know, like would have
20:08
predicted that Florida would have been so be so far out of it
20:11
like nothing better for playoffs.
20:13
Like it's just so it's too hard to predict and it's just it's
20:17
more maybe it's the thing that you should look at like halfway
20:19
through the season as the season starts like shaping up and keep
20:22
that in mind because it does seem like more and more year
20:24
over year, they're just shutting guys down for for whatever
20:28
reason. So it sucks for fantasy, but
20:30
it's definitely you gotta adapt, improvise, adapt and overcome.
20:33
Anyways, let's talk about. Well, I have two things I want
20:35
to say. It's like advice overall playoff
20:39
advice. I just want to, I know some
20:41
people in the community have had like juggernaut teams a whole
20:44
season that we've helped you guys assemble a great team.
20:47
I just want to give a reminder like don't get too cocky in your
20:49
fantasy matchups because in the playoffs, people are desperate.
20:53
People will make big moves to make a big swing.
20:56
And maybe you're looking too much in the future, looking in
20:57
the semifinals or the finals. Don't take your week, your
21:00
current week for granted. Like we had a team in in our
21:03
league of record that I mean, they were on the bubble, like
21:06
they were fighting for like the 8th place, last place in the
21:08
playoffs. And their Sunday at their last
21:11
AD was a player that wasn't even playing on Sunday.
21:13
It was a player that was playing, you know, that would
21:16
help, would have helped them in week one of the fantasy playoffs
21:19
and they didn't end up making the playoffs.
21:20
I think, I don't know if that was just like a mishap or
21:22
whatnot, but don't get too no cocky looking forward and take
21:28
your current matchups seriously and make sure you're making the
21:30
right moves and each week at a time.
21:32
And my second thing I wanted to say fast, fast.
21:34
Are you on what Senators making the playoffs?
21:37
I don't know if you guys looked at the at the.
21:39
No, absolutely. I think there's zero chance
21:42
Detroit makes it so I think that spot is fully up for grabs.
21:45
We and. I think it's gonna be like weeks
21:46
ago, months ago being like, you know, Montreal, Detroit, Buffalo
21:49
or these are things that are making it and or Tampa, sorry,
21:52
and that was. Yeah, no, but I mean, like, they
21:54
it's injuries, right? Like they lost, like they've
21:57
lost kind of like, I mean losing Larkin.
21:59
Like, you know, we talk about talismanic.
22:01
One way to tell if a guy's talismanic is when his injury
22:04
makes the entire team fall apart.
22:05
And that's kind of what happened here with Larkin and the Red
22:08
Wings. Um, I think there's at this
22:10
point zero chance they make the playoffs, which I know it's
22:12
funny to say because they're still currently in the second
22:15
wild card spot, but just momentum and what's been going
22:17
on, Like they're not going to hang on.
22:19
So it's going to be between Columbus and Ottawa, but also
22:21
it's not like Boston's guaranteed even the Habs, like
22:24
we just lost two games in a row. Like I think it.
22:26
Would be very like everybody is within like 3-4 points.
22:29
Like there's no 17 games left in the season for most teams.
22:32
Like, it's a lot of games there. I think that it's going to be
22:36
very tough for Auto and not to make the playoffs just with
22:40
their momentum and what they're doing, you know, like it's
22:41
really all more coming. I'll mark this week.
22:44
Yeah, yeah. So it's it's very interesting to
22:48
see. I wouldn't be surprised,
22:49
honestly, if both Auto and Columbus make it.
22:51
I think I could see Detroit and Boston dropping out.
22:56
I think that I know we talked about the Islanders, but
22:58
honestly they seem to be like holding on and doing some like
23:00
being on playing OK lately. So I'm, I'm more, I'd be more
23:04
worried as a Bruins fan than as an Isles fan.
23:06
If you're a Red Wings fan, like how upset are you with Steve
23:10
Eiserman where this team was a competitive?
23:12
Here we move on to the next news.
23:14
Thank Kevin. I'm.
23:14
Sorry I know, but I'm just like. The way off track they were.
23:18
So far off topic I know, but I'm.
23:19
Just like this guy's how do. You feel about Brendan Shanahan
23:22
and Steve Eiserman, the 2000s they didn't support.
23:26
The team at the deadline, they didn't make any moves.
23:28
They were rumored for Trocheck. Now Larkin goes down their
23:30
seasons over. I just think like, that's a
23:32
devastating. Move I would be upset.
23:34
I I would. I would not throw an octopus on
23:37
the ice. No.
23:38
I just wanna throw my octopi to myself.
23:41
It's actually, I don't know if octopi is the actual fucking
23:45
never mind. All this to say no, it's a
23:49
fairpoint. Like it's, it's a real, it's,
23:52
it's really disappointing if you're a Red Wings fan.
23:54
Yeah, Speaking of really disappointing, stupid JT Miller
23:57
is back from injury. He's not even on the team
24:01
anymore. He can't hurt you.
24:02
Anymore Yeah I know but gay Peru is on my team and now he got
24:06
bumped off power play 1 so Miller is still ruining my
24:08
season even from a different team.
24:11
I hate this guy so much. Tell me Elias Pettersson because
24:16
I hate JT Miller. Wow.
24:20
OK, not to be biased or anything.
24:24
Yeah, um, listen, that sucks. And I feel like without power
24:29
play one, he's really not very valuable.
24:31
I'm sorry. He still has points upside
24:33
because the top 6 has been oddly productive, but without the
24:37
power play one like the whole ceiling is gone.
24:40
Yeah, it's definitely a massive, massive loss for for Perot
24:43
owners. Yeah, that's that's pretty much
24:46
the main, the main effect I I have Perot, I'm still not
24:49
dropping. Main reason is just Rangers
24:51
schedule is so elite for the next three weeks.
24:55
Like it's not just the 444, it's the off night 2 that like
24:59
especially next week. And he has like most of his
25:02
points that he's gotten on this like run that he's been on have
25:06
been even strength and he didn't lose his even strength
25:08
deployment. So look, it definitely will make
25:11
him a lot worse. But I still think he's roster
25:13
able in a lot of leagues for these playoffs.
25:16
So that's my my take as a pro owner, maybe I'm biased.
25:19
In bangers leagues you prefer parole or Cartier.
25:22
We just picked up. Yeah, why not both?
25:25
Yeah, no, but uh, I mean, I picked up Cartier like I needed
25:30
the hits and like a little like should be in that blocks or
25:33
whatever, but I fully expect his point streak to end immediately
25:37
now that I grabbed him. Like it's those types of point
25:39
streaks where it's just fluky and like I would love for it to
25:42
continue. That's why I grabbed him over
25:43
some other hits blocks guy just because of that potential
25:45
upside. But realistically, I view him
25:48
mainly as a bangers guy and mainly a points guy.
25:51
So it really depends on what your team needs.
25:54
Yeah, Pro got like two straight games in 20 minutes and the two
25:57
games before JT Miller came back and you know, it's probably not
26:01
gonna be like that. So in addition to it was also
26:05
like the ice time playing into the fact that he, even though he
26:08
didn't actually get the power play points.
26:09
Yeah, but. Honestly I might have to call my
26:13
big guns AKA Jackie to go do to JT Miller to Morgan Riley
26:18
earlier this year. Yeah.
26:21
You're the one to talk. You feed Gostisbehere and
26:25
Matthews in your. Basement, like let me tell you,
26:29
if I had them in my basement, I would not be feeding them.
26:31
OK? I could feel them.
26:34
Yeah. Alright, let's move on to people
26:37
that I'm upset our back Mark Stone is back from injury.
26:41
This one is just a pure spite. You know, it actually doesn't
26:43
affect my team at all. But he's back on power play 1 he
26:46
bumps Brayden Bowman. Bowman didn't really do anything
26:48
with the deployment while he had it.
26:50
So not I don't think many people picked him up.
26:52
Not too much of a loss there and a huge win for a stone owners
26:55
and also for iCal owners and also for you know, Marner owner,
26:58
anyone who's Dorsey of owners or our feast in lately.
27:01
So, yeah, yeah. Notice.
27:07
Yeah, looking right now. It's it's not sticky face light
27:10
up. You got excited you guys to look
27:11
again. Yeah, but but yeah, I know it's
27:14
obviously like massive or stone. I mean, like I said, massive for
27:17
all those guys on the top power play unit, Massive for Aiden
27:19
Hill apparently, who's put up a couple of good performances, got
27:22
a shutout. Look, I think Vegas is a I think
27:27
like is it possible that Stone his talismanic for Vegas?
27:30
Don't is talismanic. I think that's why like I think
27:33
he's underrated because he's older, he's squishy, but he goes
27:39
under the radar a little bit of like what he can bring to a
27:41
team. And Eichel looked like honestly
27:43
a shell of himself without stone.
27:45
And I'm playing cycle this week. So it's amazing that he still
27:49
comes back right in time for a four-game week versus me in the
27:52
first round of the playoffs. Of course.
27:56
Fine, I know Garfield to go back to by three-point games.
27:59
But I will say though, Aiden Hill, that was a huge question
28:04
mark, right? I think it's worth addressing
28:05
because we told people to cut him like a month ago when Vegas
28:09
was kind of slipping. They were inconsistent and he
28:11
himself had terrible quality. I had some people asking like,
28:14
who do I keep in my roster rest of season?
28:16
Who do I pick up? Aidan Hill or like Dobesh, you
28:18
know? And to me, I said, I feel like
28:22
Dobesh has a little bit more safety to him, even though
28:25
Fowler is making some noise. But I think the halves are more
28:29
consistent team. But Vegas just has a higher
28:31
ceiling. Whenever they go into year, they
28:32
go into gear, right? So it's kind of just like
28:34
overnight thing. Yeah, alright, well next we've
28:38
got a couple guys from the Anaheim Ducks coming back from
28:41
entry. We've got Troy Terry.
28:43
He's sliding in line one power play 2, so not bumping anyone
28:46
off the power play, but he put up a 3.9 first game back.
28:49
So I've been impressed with Terry how he's been able to
28:52
perform with just getting his deployment trashed this year.
28:55
Like I don't know how he fell out of favour with Quinville,
28:58
but but he clearly is not no longer viewed as a power play
29:02
one guy and he's like screw you, I'm still going to be point per
29:05
game. So very impressed with that and
29:08
and I would I think the Anaheim Ducks have an amazing schedule
29:10
rest of season. So I would definitely consider
29:13
grabbing Terry. And then John Carlson also
29:15
returned to make his debut as an Anaheim Duck.
29:18
Feels super weird seeing him on on in a different jersey.
29:22
And currently daily Faceoff had him listed as line to no power
29:25
play. Jacob Trouba is still
29:27
powerfully. Too.
29:28
I mean, you got, you can't disturb the goat like that, you
29:31
know? I mean, yeah, clearly I'd be
29:34
very surprised if if he doesn't get power play to within a.
29:36
Few power play one now, Carlson. Really.
29:41
Yeah. So maybe it just changed?
29:43
OK, that's crazy. I just.
29:44
Checked when they play, Yeah. I mean, I don't know.
29:47
In the past they have been the type of team to do a power play
29:49
1A and B. Yeah, for.
29:50
Sure. So we'll see if they do that.
29:54
But if they do consolidate, I still think it may be left home.
29:58
Yeah, I'm surprised. But I guess there's also that
30:01
thing of like when a team trades for a big name, they often put
30:05
them in a position to succeed. Like look at like with
30:07
Marchment, right? When they Columbus trade for
30:09
him, they immediately put him line one power play 1, even
30:11
though I didn't personally like think that was going to happen.
30:13
So there is a chance for sure. And it's not like Anaheim had a
30:16
great power play, right? So maybe there's there's a
30:18
reason why they traded for Carlson, right?
30:20
Yeah, like when, you know, when Harley got the bag, I was
30:23
convinced he was going to be Power Play 1, and then it ended
30:26
up being Haskin. And, you know, so it's not as if
30:28
because Lacombe gets this huge contract that he's necessarily
30:31
secure there for defensemen is a bit different than forwards.
30:34
Yeah, for sure. I will say though that I have
30:38
been, I will say lower on Troy Terry then I think maybe
30:41
potentially both of you guys. So my advice has not necessarily
30:45
aligned with either of you because I just think the
30:47
deployment is too volatile. Like we've seen like the lowest
30:49
be really low even though we know, but in the past the highs
30:52
could be really high. It's just the volatility of his
30:55
deployment was really scary. I like I was giving
30:59
recommendations of like, listen, like who do I cut to activate
31:02
Troy Terry? I was like, Troy Terry might be
31:03
your worst guy here. And then he comes back and has a
31:05
great game. So I feel kind of bad but.
31:08
No, I mean, like the deployment is a huge issue and like, he's
31:12
been good despite the deployment, but I'd rather a guy
31:15
who just has good deployment and doesn't have to like fight
31:17
against his coach to put up points, you know.
31:19
So I'm just saying, like in deep leagues, I still really like
31:21
Terry. Like I was trying to get him for
31:23
like for like dirt cheap in our league, you know, and the order
31:27
didn't wanna trade him for some reason, but but yeah, you.
31:31
Do do you think that the Anaheim kind of consolidated their
31:35
talent a little bit because we also shocking and we have to
31:37
mention this on the news like Mason Mctavish scratched.
31:40
That was crazy. That's a.
31:41
Massive deal like this guy, people picked him up to stream
31:43
for the schedule and then. You have this off, he gets crap.
31:48
Didn't they just pay really go to they literally just paid him.
31:51
Why are you why are you scratching the guy that could
31:54
have been potentially your future 1C if they didn't get
31:56
like where how the draft fell to them right so.
31:59
Yeah. They should trade him to
32:01
Chicago. He was so good with Bedard in
32:03
the World Juniors. I don't know if anybody.
32:05
Remembers that that could be nasar for Mctavish.
32:09
Nazar is better. You think?
32:11
Yeah. You think Nasar is better?
32:14
I think so. Either way, it would just be
32:17
like a fun destination. I mean, the Hobbs would be cool
32:19
too actually. I thought like there was rumors
32:21
over the past like last summer if tavish to the haves, so if
32:23
he's getting scratched now, I wouldn't be shocked.
32:27
If you're deep enough leader, you Ross for me, Tavish, I'm
32:29
cutting and I'm not like as soon as I get scratched and you know,
32:32
that's in this range of outcomes.
32:33
You cannot hold that throughout the playoffs.
32:35
Yeah, I mean, that's why I dropped Connor Clifton, right?
32:38
You know, you can put you can risk stuff like that in the
32:41
regular season. But I like the theme of this
32:44
episode is when it comes to playoffs, you gotta go with
32:46
who's going to give you the production now.
32:48
And if someone is at risk of being scratched for a game in
32:50
the playoffs, that's not someone you want on your team.
32:52
Alright, Kevin, why don't you take us to your your would you
32:55
Rathers? Slide slide for Anaheim.
32:59
Are you cutting the power play 2 defensemen?
33:01
Like if it's Lacombe or Carlson, are you cutting the one that's
33:04
not about Trump? Yeah, um.
33:08
I had a lot of questions like in the discord as well.
33:10
People are just like I have become.
33:12
I seen these P2 now where I have Carlson.
33:13
He's might not get paid by 1. I took the one that's probably
33:17
one I'm cutting. I mean, I wouldn't feel bad
33:20
doing it. I'm I would be curious to, you
33:22
know, like give it a game or two maybe just because they kind of
33:26
have in the past on one A1B. And also, like I said, I do like
33:30
Anaheim schedule a lot. They've got good off nights and
33:32
got easy opponents. So I'm willing to give it a shot
33:36
of a game or two. But if you're in crunch time,
33:38
you need to maximize your games and you know someone better to
33:41
drop. I don't feel bad at all dropping
33:42
in power play defenseman. Would you cut either of them for
33:46
Shabbat right now? In a heartbeat.
33:48
Yeah, yeah, AutoZone really. Five power play.
33:52
Yeah, we're in a very deep league, so you're gonna have to
33:54
own both Carlson and Lacombe, at least until the situation shakes
33:59
out, which I don't anticipate is gonna be until Week 20.
34:01
Two, would you cut one of them for Cole Hudson?
34:05
You would. Probably sounds like me, but
34:10
yeah, I know. I think they'll like, I wouldn't
34:13
really like, Yeah, I mean, if I have one and then it's still
34:15
ambiguous and, you know, none of them can hold on to it and you
34:18
have a better option than sure. I feel like she'll bought his
34:21
kind of that guy right now. Yeah.
34:24
He's just slot it in on a guy you're able to pick up that
34:27
plays on the top five power play, that he's playing the big
34:31
minutes and on the team that's desperate to win.
34:32
It just feels like everything is there for him to be like a
34:34
Monumental and those season pick up.
34:37
Yep, and he's taken in our legality.
34:39
Brutal. Not have been a full dumb fab,
34:42
probably. Yeah, you would not have gotten.
34:44
Him, I have $5 to my name and I was like significantly less than
34:48
everybody else. So yeah, that would not have
34:49
gotten them, but I would have put my $5.
34:52
I know. All right, let's get into you.
34:56
You would have got mad already Old Alright, let's get into the
35:03
would you rather the best segment in all of fantasy
35:06
hockey. I think I got some good ones
35:09
today. Honestly, guys, I I'm really
35:11
excited to have these conversations some guys that
35:14
everybody is is excited about, but I tried to go guys that I
35:18
think are available in most leagues or kind of like hovering
35:22
around that like, you know, new deployment, new ownership
35:24
percentage. If you're new here, I go through
35:27
5 would you rathers one of every position left wing, right wing,
35:30
Senate defence and. Goalie going to put one of the
35:32
guys is one of my hot topics this week, but I.
35:35
Don't know, we'll see, but and I try to put the difference
35:38
between Jake and Josh, have them pick either side.
35:40
So really trying to find the line of value here.
35:42
So let's get started with the left wing position.
35:46
The best player in the NHL. I knew you were gonna put.
35:50
Him Alex Laugh of the Rangers or Nazim Kadri, newly newly left
35:57
wing eligible forward on Yahoo for the Colorado Avalanche
36:01
playing line one power play, one with Nathan McKinnon.
36:03
Who do you guys got rest of season?
36:06
I'm going. You guys gonna look at the
36:08
numbers for these because I think I.
36:11
Don't have to look at the numbers or like laugh.
36:13
I yeah, I I I know what his numbers have been.
36:15
He was first started the week last week.
36:17
He was unreal. He unlike a parrot is did not
36:20
lose his power play one spot to JT coming back.
36:23
I mean, the whole power play got worse because JT sucks and Pearl
36:25
was sick. But whatever, I'm over it
36:29
clearly. But no, I think like laugh is
36:31
like it's the type of thing where I had drafted laugh this
36:33
year, like super late and it was absolutely the correct have to
36:37
drop him like super early in the season because he did nothing
36:39
for most of the season. But now it's the time where I'm
36:41
like, damn, I wish I could have grabbed him.
36:43
And this is another one of those situations where he shouldn't
36:45
have been owned in the 1st place, but someone already owns
36:47
him. So no one was able to grab him.
36:49
But yeah, no, I'm I'm fully on laugh.
36:52
Like I said, the Rangers have the best playoff schedule and
36:55
laugh is lined on power play 1 and playing like a complete
36:57
playing like the player that people thought he could be.
36:59
So I love, I love what the trade did for Kadri.
37:02
I love that he's lined one power play, one playing with arguably
37:05
the best player in the league. But I just that laugh is is just
37:09
performing better and has a better schedule.
37:12
Yeah, I'm, I'm sorry to say that the difference was not split
37:16
there. Yeah.
37:19
I, I remember seeing some sort of stat that without Panarin,
37:23
he's done very well in his career so far, Lafreniere.
37:27
So that's kind of maybe even adding to this whole thing.
37:30
But pretty much just like going with Josh said, he has a great
37:33
opportunity. He's proven that he can be a
37:35
good player throughout stretches in his career.
37:37
It's just disgustingly inconsistent.
37:39
So I think that this is like the perfect opportunity for him to
37:44
really showcase his talent and with the ice time, the power
37:47
play one, line one, etcetera, he's going to do it.
37:49
Also on the Kadri side, I really don't know how safe this
37:52
deployment is. It's a high probability that
37:55
he's line one. I would say that that's what
37:57
they're gonna try to make it work.
38:00
But I wouldn't be surprised if it gets shuffled around and here
38:03
and there he plays line 3 this and that.
38:05
Because if they are secure and Landeskog and likening come back
38:09
for the playoffs, maybe they're going to want to see what their
38:11
lineup could look like with some depth.
38:14
Yep, as of this morning, Landeskog and Lichenin were
38:17
skating at practice, but still no contacts and they weren't
38:20
actually in line rushes. So maybe next week they come
38:23
back or or what not. But I think Kadri, like he
38:26
played 24 minutes last last game.
38:28
You know, Laugh played 15 minutes his last full game.
38:32
They're playing tonight the Rangers.
38:33
I'm saying the game before. So I'm just saying like the
38:35
minutes could really be there. Laugh has one hit in his last 10
38:38
games, so that's like not a part of his game at all.
38:40
Kadri does hit, you know, face off wins and hits as well from a
38:43
winger eligible motion 2. So if you're in those leagues, I
38:46
do think that Kadri's value takes a bump because like the
38:49
better deployment. But I'm with you guys.
38:51
I think Lafreniere is just I think he might be like the
38:55
league winner pickup for this end of season.
38:57
And if you're able to hop on the train, we were, you know,
39:00
mentioning him in all the waiver episodes and everything, like,
39:02
you're probably happy because I think he is.
39:05
He's still 46% owned. Yeah, now the app is telling me
39:09
the truth is only like that 37% still eligible for our waiver
39:12
show. Honestly, if you're still
39:14
eligible for our waiver or next week, then.
39:16
No, it's 46. Not that they're.
39:18
Oht, he's 46. He's 46, right?
39:19
Now, OK, cool, I was gonna say. That you went up 10% overnight?
39:23
It's cause of us, yeah. Yeah, and you know, the one
39:27
other thing a lot of this is that I actually like that he's
39:30
not hitting because it clearly hasn't worked with his game when
39:32
he's been, you know, when he's been kind of a bruiser and
39:36
trying to get points, it's not a thing that he's been able to do.
39:39
Most players can't be fair or to be a shots hits guy with like
39:42
1.3 plus points per game. I don't even think that exists.
39:45
And he was just kind of trying to find his way and being more
39:48
of a banger in his career. And maybe now I'll actually have
39:51
an opportunity to showcase more skill.
39:53
I'm just picturing like at the start of every game, like like
39:57
Panarin giving him like a big wedgie or something being like,
40:00
see you on the ice chump, you know, like.
40:04
Now for Aaron's gone and he's like, Oh my God, I'm not getting
40:07
like bullied anymore. I could actually like be a first
40:10
overall pick. You know, they're playing
40:13
against each other tonight as we speak and I know it's not going
40:16
well for the Rangers, but alright, let's get into this
40:19
next one talking about. The play against the guy, that's
40:21
always. Yeah.
40:28
You heard it here first. Aaron Bully OK, looking at the
40:35
right wing position, I think this is gonna be a fun one.
40:38
I I think this one's close, but maybe for you guys gonna be a no
40:41
brainer. So I'm curious, but the right
40:44
wing, would you rather Maverick Bork or Yegor Chinaka rest of
40:50
season? So just choice over here, my
40:57
last glimmers of hope. On my team, I forgot you to come
41:02
on TV. I actually really like that you
41:05
took away the thing. Not that I've ever peeked
41:07
before. Yeah.
41:09
Hiding from the Dark Ages. A genuine reaction.
41:12
Shocker. No, but go on.
41:15
This is this is the biggest one for me all year, I will say.
41:18
Just context, the Malkin did come back today and bumped to
41:22
the top off power play 1. You know Bork has not had power
41:25
play one throughout this whole positive synthesis.
41:29
So I think it's a genuine question, who would you rather
41:31
rest of the season? You're thinking playoff
41:33
schedule, you're thinking performance, deployment, team
41:36
strength. What do you guys think?
41:38
I feel like every single one of those aspects is like identical
41:41
for the two of them. Like I feel like now, like
41:43
before if China still power play one, I would have just gone with
41:46
him. But now that he got demoted and
41:48
essentially it's the same deployment as Bork, I'm just
41:51
gonna refer to the expert and let Jakey tell me who to choose.
41:57
OK, I'm gonna what's it called when they I'm going to
42:01
filibuster for a second here. You guys know, you know the
42:05
movie Top Gun, of course. Tom Cruise.
42:07
Name I've heard Dobrick yeah, yeah.
42:08
And. And you know, like that scene
42:10
in. Ted Ethan Hunt.
42:11
They're talking about talking. He's like, I'm not gonna let you
42:13
down, Goose. Like Tom's Garrett, Top Gun.
42:16
It's like, right. I knew that.
42:19
The reference. OK, now that I've given myself
42:21
time to think about it, I think I'm gonna go with, uh, I think
42:27
I'm gonna go with Bork. He like.
42:30
Tell me why. China called Does this wait what
42:33
you. Say so, tell me why, but try to
42:39
do the Drake. Prosecution isn't a heartache,
42:42
so I'm glad you brought up that song.
42:46
Like I I will say I don't think it's impossible.
42:47
Chekov gets it back over Mantha. That would actually be nice.
42:51
But even with that, I really think that what Bork has done
42:54
with the opportunity is just been tremendous.
42:56
If he Shot in the Dark gets it over Jamie Benn, the power play
43:01
one, which I don't anticipate to happen, it should not be
43:03
factored into your analysis at all.
43:05
That makes it like a sure thing. Like both on Power Play 1.
43:08
So my reasoning is that Chanukah partially was so successful
43:12
because he had the extra minutes and the power play exposure.
43:15
Bork has done it without it so now like the base case for Gina,
43:18
Caleb is a lot less favorable whereas even if he does get it
43:24
back it's still going to be something similar to Bork.
43:26
And if you look at their like the last few weeks, Bork is just
43:28
simply been better even with China Kobs, you know,
43:32
deployment. So it's been pretty close.
43:33
Yeah, yeah, I, I have no bias here.
43:35
I got them both on my team. I also have to say that I think
43:39
playing with Johnson and Robertson even strength is
43:42
tremendous. That's just the current line 1
43:45
is Bork, Johnson, Robertson. So yeah, I gotta go.
43:48
China call here Bork. Look.
43:54
Thank you, Josh. The other one.
43:57
I'm going to go with Bork for the reasons Jake, he said.
44:00
I wasn't joking. I feel like they're pretty much
44:02
identical. I think it's a fantastic would
44:04
you rather and Jake, he's the one who's been dialed in because
44:06
he has both of them. So so I think and also I agree
44:09
with the the logic there, right? Like Bork has been doing it with
44:11
the deployment. He has been doing it with better
44:13
deployment. So now that his deployment got
44:15
worse, logic would say that he might get slightly worse,
44:18
whereas pork nothing's changed. So.
44:20
So for that reason, I agree. To me, to me, because I was
44:24
definitely leaning tree Nakov. And to me, it's the shot volume
44:27
is there. Obviously the power play is
44:29
huge. Like you look at the power
44:30
plant, he's been extremely successful on the power play.
44:32
So I was kind of surprised when they bumped him off instead of
44:35
Manta. Makes no sense.
44:36
But to me, I, I think it is in the range of outcomes for
44:39
Chinook off to get the spot back.
44:40
I don't think Bork has it in his range of outcomes to get power
44:42
play one like barring another injury.
44:45
So the upside is there to me. But to your point too, like he
44:48
is bumped off PowerPoint and he was so successful there.
44:50
So that's production that is just like not on the table for
44:52
him anymore. So I think Borg is a safer
44:55
place. China covers higher upside play.
44:59
So it kind of depends. Like if you have a luxury, I
45:01
think China covers. This is a really good bet
45:03
because I actually really like what he's doing for the
45:05
Pittsburgh. I think he fits there extremely
45:06
well if Crosby comes back. What you said for the Pittsburgh
45:14
reminded me of the Utah. I saw somebody referenced in the
45:17
discord earlier today, they were like, oh, are we doing this guy
45:21
for the Utah anyways? But but but you guys definitely
45:24
swayed me to Bork. I think.
45:26
I think I'm more of a risk averse manager and I would be
45:30
really upset if I missed out on Bork because I wanted to go for
45:33
China cover. Do you know his production get
45:35
slashed in half because he's not on PowerPoint anymore?
45:39
And both are like Burke is 15% owned.
45:41
I think China has like 12 or 13% owned.
45:43
So both widely available. Both can make an impact for your
45:46
fantasy teams down the stretch. Yeah, alright, alright.
45:50
What you got next? This one is super lopsided.
45:52
So I'm going to give I'm gonna give one name that I know you
45:55
guys are gonna all say yes and then we can start to find the
45:58
line. But would you rather defenseman
46:02
here Thomas Shabbat newly newly power play 1 defensive for auto
46:06
senators and I was I looked to find another waiver eligible guy
46:09
ish and I went with Vince Dunn. I would take Shabbat, but you
46:13
know what I think a good one is, is would you rather Shabbat or
46:16
Brant Clark? That's close.
46:20
That is a good one. Yeah.
46:22
I went with, I went with Shabbat because I thought I figured
46:25
that, you know, he's a name that everybody's picked up recently.
46:28
And I think I'm looking at guys that are more on the lower end
46:30
of people's rosters. I think Clarke 70% owned.
46:33
So he's not like close a waiver level in most leagues.
46:36
But honestly, that's a great question.
46:40
No, actually, they're not that far apart.
46:42
Shabbats now at 60. Percent, yeah, because he's
46:44
roster percentage, like boosted completely after the injury.
46:50
Yeah, that's first of all that that's a good, it's a great like
46:56
line over. Here I think, I think I would go
46:58
Clark over Shabbat, but I could definitely be biased.
47:01
I just really like Clark's blocks and shots as like a
47:04
baseline. And I mean, he just put up like
47:07
a three-point game like I think he has.
47:09
I think he's a better player than Shabbat at this point in
47:11
their careers. But Shabbat has the bonus of
47:14
being on a much better power play.
47:16
So I wouldn't fall to you either way, but I would go to.
47:18
Clark. I would go with Clark.
47:20
Is it for sure Shabal Redondo? Yeah, for me, that's that's an
47:25
easy one. Although you know, Seattle's
47:27
Seattle fighting for a playoff spot, which is exactly where we
47:30
want, you know, and they've been solid, like their power play has
47:33
been hovering around like 10th, 11th in the league like all
47:36
season. So they're not like they're not
47:38
a nothing but done. I feel like he could any given
47:41
night give you straight zeros. And also, Seattle just has a
47:44
really bad playoff schedule, whereas Ottawa has 2 four-game
47:48
weeks. What about Shabbat?
47:49
Or Shabbat? Or Eric Carlson.
47:54
I'll go Carlson. OK, what about, uh, you're in a
47:59
points league Most either. In a points league, yeah.
48:04
That's a different. Thing that's really yeah,
48:08
although you know what with without like without Larkin and
48:10
how bad the Detroit has been because Detroit is like one of
48:13
the best power plays in the league also, but they've been a
48:16
lot worse. Honestly I feel like points lead
48:19
guide go Shabbat. I'm taking cider in all formats.
48:23
Yeah, maybe I'm overthinking it, I don't know.
48:25
I just like the it's been so bad.
48:27
Yeah, he's been good. OK, fine.
48:29
Yeah, you're. Lost so I don't want.
48:32
Real quick, Shabbat or chicken? Shabbat I that one I know for a
48:38
fact watching I know chickens been awful because I played him
48:40
last week and he put up straight zeros for four straight games.
48:43
So. He has been.
48:44
Awful. Yeah, yeah, that, that one.
48:45
I'm. Gonna place for OK.
48:51
I know they're trying to make. Money leading to Lake expecting
48:53
to wake up tomorrow to seeing Jake having added Cole Hudson.
48:56
He's gonna spend all his work up to that today.
48:59
I won't like he's on my watch list.
49:01
He's he's mine. This is Maverick work all over
49:06
again. Check.
49:06
You could just say it cause he knows we're.
49:08
Not going to pick him up. I saw Maddie.
49:10
Maddie Savoy was a line one with after the dry saddle injury.
49:13
I'm just putting it out there too.
49:15
Don Jake's theme. Alright, just collecting all
49:19
these like young guys, like right at the end of this, he
49:21
said. He's also gonna sort of back on
49:22
his team, so everybody that was running the sort of training
49:24
earlier, Jake is back on. So yeah, you need inspiration.
49:29
All right, talking goalies here. This is a This might be lopsided
49:33
as well, but would you rather new starter for the Edmonton
49:37
Oilers, Connor Ingram or Sergei Bobrovsky, fallen champion?
49:42
Yeah, yeah. I would.
49:44
I would take a I think I would take almost any goalie over Bob.
49:48
I would not. I would drop Bob.
49:49
Honestly, you would. I dropped, I dropped the cord
49:51
and I'd rather have to cord than.
49:53
Bob Bob is 160% of his games over the last month.
49:57
I have 0 faith in Florida minus all these players that are not
50:01
there. Over the last month, bobs at a
50:03
925, two point, two goals against average and 60% of the
50:06
wins almost. 30 actually hilarious that right when they
50:09
start taking he's like, I'm gonna start playing flow.
50:13
I actually didn't realize he was doing that well, but he's doing.
50:15
Super well. Actually, so maybe I shouldn't
50:18
be as harsh on him as I was because I didn't realize he's
50:20
doing that well. But I still have to cover Ingram
50:23
has been a beast either like we've seen bad no good games.
50:26
He's just now confirmed does quote UN quote starter because
50:29
Tristan Jarry's dog awful water $8 sign dollar sign and find the
50:33
new words you could use profane profanity or whatever.
50:36
Yeah, look, I didn't realize that that Bobby quality numbers
50:40
were there. I'm still like 100% certain that
50:42
Ingram will get more wins than Bob because Edmonton's gonna get
50:45
more wins than Florida rest of season.
50:47
That's to me is. An even without drive title.
50:50
Ah, why do you have to bring that up?
50:53
Hard hitting questions here. I think even without dry saddle,
50:56
because I think if they start losing games to the point where
50:59
they're gonna miss playoffs, they're gonna force like they're
51:01
gonna rush, settle back. So and then he'll be back.
51:04
So I think that, and Florida's actively taking like they want
51:08
to lose, like they will do. They will actually make
51:10
decisions. Yeah, they will actively make
51:14
decisions that makes their lineup worse.
51:16
Like if any of the guys we listed earlier get healthy and
51:18
they're worried that they're gonna start playing well, like
51:20
they're gonna not bring them back.
51:22
Like, maybe maybe I'm too biased here, but that's what I feel
51:25
like with what they've been doing.
51:26
So yeah, OK, fine. Bob's not as bad as I thought.
51:29
I own but. You're still going.
51:32
I'm going, yeah. Yeah, and I'm having a lot of
51:35
trouble with this, but I, I think I'm just going to.
51:40
Hmm. Because they.
51:42
Shut down Bob too, right? If he starts playing too well,
51:45
they're gonna like, you know, he's gonna have an accident with
51:48
like a glass at dinner or something.
51:49
You know, like the Jack you special.
51:51
Dinner with Jack Hughes and be like he had ordered the steak.
51:55
Yeah, exactly. We are.
51:57
We are 100% sure that Florida is not making the playoffs right.
52:01
I'm like, there's no way. Answer.
52:04
There's no way. OK, fine.
52:05
I guess I have to go Ingram for everything you said, like I
52:08
really don't. I don't want to do this.
52:11
I haven't been another league. I'm not that happy with Ingram.
52:14
It's more. Rewards quantity.
52:16
If you're in a quantity league where you know you could get the
52:19
wins and that that, then then I think that it's going to be
52:24
good. But it really depends on your
52:25
league settings. This is such a close one to me.
52:27
Like in our league are almost feel like I'd rather bulb where
52:30
it's just categories playing. But if you're in one where you
52:33
get rewarded for wins, I think Ingram's gonna get more.
52:37
Wins just like Bob has been so bad all year.
52:40
How did he just decide to be good the last like few weeks
52:43
when the whole team collapsed like.
52:45
It's engineered to do this. When you think about it, it's
52:48
been years and years of like mad performance in the season and
52:50
then he ramps up and then by the.
52:52
End his true. 15 lbs of water weight playing a game in the
52:55
playoffs and win the It's true. I think he's just, he's just
52:59
prepared, but it's just not happening this year.
53:01
He doesn't mind, knows they're not going to the playoffs, but
53:03
his body just like, you know, it's playoff time.
53:06
What do you mean exactly? Alright, what's the what's the
53:08
last one you got for? Us last one.
53:11
This is a teammates, A duo kind of duo, not really, but they
53:18
play on the same team. Teammates, colleagues.
53:21
Coworker and they were teammates.
53:24
Two brothers. Would you rather centre position
53:29
on the Boston Bruins, Pavel Zacha or Elias Lindholm rest of
53:33
season? I'd rather freeze them into
53:37
honestly, Lindholm is garbage. I it sucks.
53:40
I have him and he is just he's been bumped off line one.
53:44
He's line 3 now, but he's still power play 1.
53:46
So he's not completely worthless in a non faceoff wins league.
53:49
I'm dropping Lynn home even with even with the yeah, even with
53:54
the schedule in faceoff wins, he's still valuable.
53:56
Like he's getting double digit faceoff wins four games weeks
53:59
for the next three weeks and he's still on that power play 1.
54:01
So he still has value to my team.
54:03
But in in on face off leaves. I think he's he's a drop.
54:06
And The thing is that's not exact.
54:08
Is like deployments that much better, right?
54:12
But they're both power play 1 and Zach is like technically
54:15
line 2 telephones line 3. But like like I'm not sure where
54:18
geeky fits into all this because it keeps it keeps jumping
54:21
around. But there was one point where I
54:22
saw him on line three with Lindholm.
54:24
And if Geeky's on that line with Lindholm, that's line 2.
54:27
That's not lying to me. So it really is kind of a mess.
54:30
I view them very similar. So I, I guess, I don't know, I
54:37
guess Lindholm has the upside of possibly getting brought back
54:39
with Pasternak at some point, whereas Zach is not gonna get
54:43
put with Pasternak. So I don't know.
54:45
I'm not. I'm not happy with the.
54:47
I'm not that happy with either. You gotta pick one though,
54:49
that's the whole point I. Gotta pick one.
54:51
Fine, I'll go with. I'll go with Linton even though
54:54
he's been garbage for me because I think he has the higher
54:56
upside. I'm also gonna go Lindholm for
55:01
the reasons of him potentially playing with Pasternak.
55:05
That that's really all it is. I don't understand why they're
55:09
in the playoff picture. It really doesn't make sense.
55:11
I'm surprised. Because I'm surprised both of
55:14
you guys are going Lynn home because to me, like your week
55:16
one of the playoffs right now, like you really get ahold of the
55:18
guy that's currently lined through prospective of him
55:21
getting back to line 1 and he was dog water when he was line
55:24
1. So to me, I'm taking the the
55:27
better production. I mean, you might have better
55:28
options than both of these guys, but if you're in a pinch and you
55:31
have to choose, I think Lindholm is a cut right now.
55:33
It sucks because we were recommending like people
55:36
potentially buying him, holding him for this playoff schedule
55:38
and now come here. He gets demoted for the first
55:40
time the whole season. It's actually.
55:42
Had a great time, yeah. Like he's been a little bit more
55:46
consistent in terms of what he's giving you.
55:48
Like, you know, you're getting, it's just going to be less high
55:50
of a ceiling, but it's still more consistent and I'm taking
55:53
that. I guess like the way I see it is
55:55
that in a non faceoffs league I don't really want either of
55:58
these guys and in a faceoffs league I do think Lynn Holmes
56:01
actually solid. Zaka has the left wing, left
56:04
wing face off. Though he does have the left
56:06
wing like face off but but like Lynn homes giving me like
56:09
consistently like over double digit fees off wins.
56:12
I just, I don't want either. So it's like, I get what you're
56:15
saying, Kevin, that like your logic makes sense.
56:19
I just really don't wanna have either of them.
56:22
No offence, Josh. Something so I mean in deeper
56:24
leagues like these are guys that play on a Boston team that has a
56:27
444 like this, that's still, you know, volume that it could make
56:30
a difference, right? Yeah, yeah.
56:33
I just don't think Zaka, like I don't rely on Zaka enough to
56:37
actually put you over the edge in any of the weeks.
56:39
Whereas if Lindholm does play with Pasternak, then that could
56:41
be. Like, but then it's like, well,
56:42
like a dead spot while he's not there.
56:44
Are you willing to hold a dead spot in your quarterfinals?
56:49
Like I, I don't, I don't like it either way, you know what I
56:52
mean? It's.
56:52
So that's, I mean, like I'll give to your point, I do think
56:55
Zaca probably gets more points this week.
56:58
So if that's how you're going at all, like going off of then then
57:02
yeah, you could go Zack Overland home.
57:04
Yeah, it's almost that if you're like, if you need to win the
57:07
week, I'm not picking up either of them.
57:09
So the situation I'm in is like, you know what I mean?
57:12
It's kind of like in this scenario, you're sort of holding
57:16
one. I almost see it as like, who
57:19
would you were you sooner to drop?
57:22
That's the way I see it. Rather, I would sooner drop Lynn
57:24
home right now. I get it, I get it.
57:27
I agree with you guys being like the the potential of like him
57:30
getting back to the line 1 is valuable, but I'm just like to
57:33
me, I'm in the playoffs right now.
57:34
I'm putting myself in the shoes of somebody that owns Lynn Home
57:36
and I'm just like I can't risk holding this guy and it costing
57:40
me the week. That's fair.
57:41
Yeah. I mean, I guess like the way I
57:44
see it kind of is like if you're fighting for like, you know, you
57:49
don't, you're not, you're actually like in a close match
57:51
and you're fighting for it. This week.
57:52
I'm not picking up either of these guys.
57:53
And if I'm like picking up one of these guys because I'm
57:56
feeling confident this week and I'm looking forward to the next
57:58
two weeks and that great schedule.
58:00
And I'd rather go with the upside of Linton, like getting
58:03
rebought up at some point over the past next week.
58:06
You know, like I think that definitely is possible.
58:08
Minton doesn't have it locked down or anything like that.
58:10
Boston's got to do anything they can to win.
58:12
So whatever they can do and honestly the way I'm looking at
58:16
it from me personally trying to come up with a bright side is
58:19
that if Lindholm being moved down is what it takes to get
58:22
past it and not be garbage, then I'll take it because I have
58:25
passed all so and so. Had that meeting.
58:28
Pasta stack. Yeah, pasta.
58:31
Crickets not. I know I wasn't hating on the
58:37
comment I was just like would it be good?
58:38
No, it was not a certain pastas. I was also talking.
58:41
About mid Chocolate chip ice cream is delicious, apparently
58:44
for some crazy. People Yeah, my wife loves it.
58:48
It's her favorite flavor. But I'm my wife, my girlfriend,
58:52
my wife. I also choose this guy's life.
58:58
I got a joke that's a good note to end the podcast on.
59:01
Yeah, I think. So thank you to everybody for
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We read them all. Much appreciated.
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We love the support and thank you to everybody who's been
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listening to us all season and Five Booms.
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Who you know. I've seen it but you'll you
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stopped at 3:00. I don't.
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I don't want to embarrass myself, you know, You guys look
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at me weird. And be sure to join the Discord
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