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  Speaker 1: He's the bold reform it.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight, secret premier's business white to Victoria's premier, make a
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  Speaker 2: secret apology to the so called Stolen generation, and a
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  Speaker 2: bigger mystery, who exactly did she say sorry too? Well?
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  Speaker 2: So tonight bizarre claims of a third assassination attempt on
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump as his surge is in the polls. And
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  Speaker 2: if I'm a Labor in peace is after a lifetime
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  Speaker 2: with Labor, the party has betrayed his values and King
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  Speaker 2: Charles has portrayed too, all six premiers refusing to go
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  Speaker 2: to his reception in Canberra. Why it matters, But first,
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  Speaker 2: the two big political stories today are linked and together
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  Speaker 2: they tell us Anthony Albany is finished as Prime minister.
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  Speaker 2: His authority is destroyed. If he does pond, it's as
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  Speaker 2: a broken figure. Today, for the first time since the election,
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  Speaker 2: Labor has fallen behind the coalition in news poll forty
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  Speaker 2: nine percent after preferences to the coalition's fifty one, which
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  Speaker 2: puts an end to Albanize's fake bravado earlier this year,
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  Speaker 2: as his government kept lurching from one crisis to another.
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  Speaker 3: We haven't lost a news poll since I've been priming the.
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  Speaker 2: Stuff well it's lost my now and the government had
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  Speaker 2: to wheel out some poorchmuck to claim it was just
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  Speaker 2: a flesh wound.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 4: Look, I mean there are obviously news polls where you're
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  Speaker 4: doing better than other times, than others where you're doing
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  Speaker 4: less well. What we know is that Australians are doing
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  Speaker 4: it tough at the moment, and I don't think it's
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  Speaker 4: a surprise that we see that reflected in the polls.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's much more serious than that, and not just
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  Speaker 2: because there's no sign that Australians are going to get
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  Speaker 2: a break from that cost of living squeeze that's killing
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  Speaker 2: this government, and no sign that the government has any agenda.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is Albinezi himself has been exposed, has been
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  Speaker 2: crippled by the very first promise he made on the
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  Speaker 2: night that he was elected, a wild promise that pleased
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  Speaker 2: the blind left but had nothing to do with helping
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  Speaker 2: mainstream Australia and little to do with helping Aborigines.
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  Speaker 3: I commit to the Ularu's statement.
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  Speaker 2: Prom and one year ago today, Albanese's dream crashed into
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  Speaker 2: ruins when sixty percent of Australians voted no to step
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  Speaker 2: one of that promise. Albanize's racist voice to Parliament a
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  Speaker 2: kind of average alone the advisory Parliament in our constitution. Now,
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  Speaker 2: when you track Labour's news poll support since the election,
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  Speaker 2: you will see how disastrous that Voice campaign last year
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  Speaker 2: was for the government. The government's support sank like a stone,
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  Speaker 2: and Albanizi and Labor have never recovered now that fall
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  Speaker 2: of Labor. I've got to tell you this honesting because
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  Speaker 2: Albanezi once seemed unbeatable, the most popular prime minister.
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  Speaker 1: In many, many years.
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  Speaker 2: As recently as April last year, his government was miles
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  Speaker 2: ahead of the coalition fifty six percent to forty four
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  Speaker 2: and then came the collapse, all through the Voice campaign,
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  Speaker 2: and now this latest poll be behind. Now, of course
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  Speaker 2: you will hear and have heard the obvious explanations, like
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  Speaker 2: he was Albanzi spending all that valuable time pleading with
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  Speaker 2: Australians to back his Voice departiament when he couldn't even
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  Speaker 2: explain it, and with so many Australians were preoccupied with
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  Speaker 2: just surviving this cost of the living crisis. Instead they
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  Speaker 2: were getting poorer and poorer inflation punishing them with Here
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  Speaker 2: was alban Esi, meantime, distracted with some leftist crusade, no
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  Speaker 2: good to anyone. It's a good explanation of used it
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  Speaker 2: often myself, but it still is something important. And that's
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  Speaker 2: why after the defeat of the Voice, Albanesi is still
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  Speaker 2: broken as a leader. And that's because there was also
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  Speaker 2: how Albanesi failed the first of all, of course, he
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  Speaker 2: failed because of the same weaknesses that are behind so
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  Speaker 2: many of us other failures since his failure to stop
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  Speaker 2: the collapse of his big global warming plans, his failure
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  Speaker 2: to keep energy prices low, his failure to protect us
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  Speaker 2: around Jews, is failure to cut back on the disastrous
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  Speaker 2: level of immigration, his failure to keep homes affordable for
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  Speaker 2: the young and the poorer, could go on. All these
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  Speaker 2: values are more explained why Albanizer could now be the
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  Speaker 2: first prime minister since nineteen thirty one to lead a
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  Speaker 2: first term government to defeat. And all those failures stem
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  Speaker 2: largely from the very weakness that were so cruelly exposed
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  Speaker 2: in the Voice campaign. And this goes beyond Albanese's terrible
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  Speaker 2: political judgment. It was also rudderless during that campaign. It
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  Speaker 2: was just like a passenger. He led activists advising the
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  Speaker 2: government walk right over him. Pushing a model of the
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  Speaker 2: voice that was so radical that most of strands, of course,
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  Speaker 2: would never accept it. At second related he had no
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  Speaker 2: command of the detail. Oh this voice, it was not
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  Speaker 2: about a treaty, or was it? This voice was based
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  Speaker 2: on a ularious statement. There's just one page? Or was it?
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  Speaker 2: The whole thing was a mess, as Albanisi was repeatedly
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  Speaker 2: contradicted by the government's own advisors on the voice.
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  Speaker 5: It's not about a treating, but it's part of treaty
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  Speaker 5: which we will be a following stead This is not
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  Speaker 5: about do you four see that compensation with This is
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  Speaker 5: not about a treating.
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  Speaker 6: The culminating agenda of the Unary's statement is treating.
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  Speaker 3: The earlier statement from the heart is one page. Is
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  Speaker 3: one page, So.
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  Speaker 7: The Orlary statement actually eighteen pages.
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  Speaker 2: No, but is his Minister for Indigenous Australians was no better.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, this had nothing to do with reparations. She
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  Speaker 2: told us. Yes it did, said one of her advisers
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  Speaker 2: on the voice, Thomas Mayo. Again the statement, Ambassador.
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  Speaker 8: This referendum is not about reparations.
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  Speaker 7: This is the first step.
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  Speaker 6: It's a vital step, and it puts all the explanation
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  Speaker 6: behind it like, you.
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  Speaker 7: Know, pay the rent for example. You know, how how
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  Speaker 7: do we do that in a way that is transparent
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  Speaker 7: and that it actually sees reparations.
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  Speaker 2: No wonder that the more the Australians heard of this
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  Speaker 2: complete nozzle, the more they were against the Voice. And
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  Speaker 2: here's the thing, how often have you seen the same
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  Speaker 2: pattern revisited? Ab an Easy didn't know the other day
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  Speaker 2: that has treasured us for costings if the government cut
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  Speaker 2: back on negative gearing. Albertize he didn't know early this
• 7:06
  Speaker 2: year that both people had reached Australia. Albanize he didn't
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  Speaker 2: know this year. Let in as a tourist the patriarch
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  Speaker 2: of a family in Gaza whose brothers and sons were
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  Speaker 2: islam As terrorists. And this is a man now in
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  Speaker 2: Sydney that Alberdies still isn't thrown out either. And here
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  Speaker 2: is something not even his colleagues know.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: What has Albanize he really achieved in these two and
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  Speaker 2: a half years, But more importantly, what does he want
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  Speaker 2: to achieve if he is elected again?
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  Speaker 9: Now?
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  Speaker 2: Albinizi after the last election was the dogger caught the car.
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  Speaker 2: He won with no real agenda apart from the Voice
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  Speaker 2: and his global warming crusade. And after the next election,
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  Speaker 2: what then will it be more wasted time, wasted effort,
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  Speaker 2: wasted money like we saw with the Voice. But don't
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  Speaker 2: get complacent. I mean those people who lost the Voice
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  Speaker 2: a year ago today are still in denial and your
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  Speaker 2: free speech is now in danger. Professor Meghan Davis, who
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  Speaker 2: co wrote the Unarus statement that demanded the Voice, now
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  Speaker 2: admits yes, activists like her nagged the Abenezi government since
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  Speaker 2: Christmas twenty twenty two to censor no campaigners. She said
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  Speaker 2: the Aboriginal committees did press upon labor to past legislation
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  Speaker 2: to protect the referendum from lies and misinformation, and Davis's
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  Speaker 2: demand for censorship of her opponents seems to have rung
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  Speaker 2: a bell with the Prime Minister also blames lies misinformation
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  Speaker 2: for killing his precious voice.
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  Speaker 3: People can be the subject to misinformation, which in some cases,
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  Speaker 3: in some cases is just abouts, but in some cases
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  Speaker 3: spent can be dangerous. You don't want to interfere with
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  Speaker 3: any freedom of expression, but you also want to make
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  Speaker 3: sure that elections can be held and democratic processes can
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  Speaker 3: be held in an appropriate way.
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  Speaker 2: Worrying, the media left seemed very keen to believe alban
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  Speaker 2: easy on this one and two back censorship. The ABC
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  Speaker 2: even ran this headline the Voice campaign was infected with disinformation.
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  Speaker 2: Who's in charge of inoculating the strands against lies? And
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  Speaker 2: just this morning a lawyer was added again.
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  Speaker 5: Perhaps one of the biggest ones, that it was going
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  Speaker 5: to divide this nation based on.
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  Speaker 1: Race, which was a lie. It is a lie, but
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  Speaker 1: it was.
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  Speaker 5: Something that the No campaign was able to exploit and
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  Speaker 5: use very well.
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  Speaker 2: It absolutely was not a lie. It was the truth.
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  Speaker 2: We were voting on a change to our constitution that
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  Speaker 2: did divide us by race, and thank god, sixty percent
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  Speaker 2: of Australians said no. The poll by the Institute for
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  Speaker 2: Public Affairs showed seventy percent of voters of No voters
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  Speaker 2: said racial vision was indeed their main reason for voting
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  Speaker 2: against the Voice and good on them. But the refusal
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  Speaker 2: of the Yes campaign is to face that critical fact
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  Speaker 2: and to blame instead misinformation that now does have dangerous
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  Speaker 2: consequences because one year on and Albertiz is trying again
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  Speaker 2: to pass new laws to stop misinformation on social media,
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  Speaker 2: misinformation as the fine by people appointed by government. But
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  Speaker 2: of course join me as one of the leaders of
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  Speaker 2: the No campaign Warren, Mundine Warren, thanks for coming on
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  Speaker 2: the show. Look, I should say, you know, today's a
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  Speaker 2: day for celebration. You saved us a year ago from
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  Speaker 2: something really terrible. But now to hear this Yes campaign
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  Speaker 2: is still blaming misinformation for the voice being defeated and
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  Speaker 2: moves to start censoring this so called misinformation.
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  Speaker 10: Your response, Ah, look, they're just propagandas you know they've lost.
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  Speaker 10: They've got a belief, you know, like a lot of
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  Speaker 10: Marxists and left wing people, that if you say a
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  Speaker 10: liar enough, people will start to believe it.
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  Speaker 11: But they underested made it. The Australian people.
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  Speaker 10: The Australian people have made it quite clear they do
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  Speaker 10: not want anything to do with this referendum, They don't
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  Speaker 10: want anything to do with racial division within our society,
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  Speaker 10: and they're going to stand up again against this Misinformation
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  Speaker 10: Disinformation Bill, which is just quite frankly about how do
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  Speaker 10: you silence your political opponents, how do you silence the truth?
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  Speaker 10: Because every time you ask a question about, Okay, what
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  Speaker 10: was the liars that the No campaign ran, they can't
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  Speaker 10: name one. They haven't named one, and that merely mouse
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  Speaker 10: response and a synoc that we said it was about
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  Speaker 10: race division. Well, as you just said, then that was true.
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  Speaker 10: You know, this idea that you put average on entire
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  Speaker 10: straight islanders in the Constitution with with special rights that
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  Speaker 10: no other Australians have.
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  Speaker 6: Uh.
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  Speaker 10: And then they turn around and say, oh, but that's
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  Speaker 10: not putting race in the constitution.
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  Speaker 11: That was an out and live. So look it's you know,
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  Speaker 11: they talk, they attacked the Australian people. They called the
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  Speaker 11: Australian people.
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  Speaker 10: Racist, and they called Australian a racist country. And you know,
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  Speaker 10: and then they turned and had the gall to turn
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  Speaker 10: around and say the years campaign was causing race division.
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  Speaker 10: That is the most racist, the race division that you've
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  Speaker 10: ever seen in this country. You know, I just cannot believe.
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  Speaker 10: You know, that's taken us back to the bad old days,
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  Speaker 10: back in the sixties and before, where race was an issue,
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  Speaker 10: and now they play the race card all the time.
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  Speaker 2: So true, they're campaigning against, allegedly against what they actually create.
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  Speaker 2: But the voice agenda Warren is still there. This is amazing.
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  Speaker 2: You're quite right about the public, but the politicians haven't listened. Victoria,
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  Speaker 2: for instance, lady has an Aboriginal curery court and an
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  Speaker 2: advisory parliament called the First People's Assembly now preparing a treaty.
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  Speaker 2: South Australia has a Voice to Parliament New South Wales.
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  Speaker 2: The state's Judicial Commission has even published a new guard
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  Speaker 2: telling judges to consider many Aboriginal defendsive be victims of
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  Speaker 2: set the colonialism, saying the way to fix it same
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  Speaker 2: voice agenda a measure of self government, local control over
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  Speaker 2: policing services and the right to determine their own membership
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  Speaker 2: or citizenship. Warren, Where does this stop? What is the
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  Speaker 2: real way to tackle Aboriginal disadvantage, particularly of course out Bush.
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  Speaker 11: Oh, there's only two ways to do that, and as
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  Speaker 11: the deal will get the real issue that are affecting
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  Speaker 11: Aboriginal people entire state Onlentar people in the big gaps
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  Speaker 11: is not between the Aboriginals in the rest of Australia.
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  Speaker 11: It's between Aboriginals in the cities like Sydney and Melbourne
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  Speaker 11: and person and Aboriginals living in regional and re made Australia.
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  Speaker 11: We've got to stop identifying by race. We've got to
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  Speaker 11: say needs is the basis.
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  Speaker 10: As much as I like to get free government money
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  Speaker 10: and be looked after, I'm not a person who needs
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  Speaker 10: this stuff. It's and a lot of other Aboriginals don't
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  Speaker 10: need this stuff.
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  Speaker 11: What we need to do.
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  Speaker 10: There are non Aboriginals in the very remote regional area
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  Speaker 10: struggling too, So we need to stop basing things on
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  Speaker 10: race and start basing needs. And that's what we should
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  Speaker 10: be doing. That's that's the first step. The second step
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  Speaker 10: is that we're going to throw these governments out. You know,
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  Speaker 10: look you look at you look at what's happening in
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  Speaker 10: South Australia. Even ninety percent of Abiginals didn't even vote.
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  Speaker 7: Well that Voice.
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  Speaker 10: In South Australia when they had an election, only ten
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  Speaker 10: percent turned up and voted.
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  Speaker 7: You look at it.
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  Speaker 11: In Victoria only seven percent turned up and voted.
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  Speaker 10: And here these here are these governments listening to the
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  Speaker 10: noisy radicals who are setting themselves up rather than actually
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  Speaker 10: fixing the problems.
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  Speaker 2: So true, Waram Mundin, let me just congratulate you again,
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  Speaker 2: you and just enterprise a nag price. I think well
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  Speaker 2: without you too, I think the Voice might have gone
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  Speaker 2: even sailed through. So Australia is a huge, huge debt, thank.
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  Speaker 7: You, but we didn't.
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  Speaker 11: But to be honest, it was the Australian people, you know,
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  Speaker 11: they're not stupid.
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  Speaker 7: They believe in.
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  Speaker 2: The no I know that, but you've got to get
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  Speaker 2: I know that. But Geeve Warren, without you and just enter,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Thank you so much for your time.
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  Speaker 2: The anniversary of the defeat of the Voice is so significant.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what miscape we had. But today what will
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  Speaker 2: have really shaken the pro minister is the news poll,
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  Speaker 2: the first that puts his government behind the So to
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  Speaker 2: my Monday Political Panel Michael Crogan, former Victoria Liberal President
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  Speaker 2: and Steve Conroy, former LATD Senator and cabinet minister. Steve,
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  Speaker 2: how significant is today's poll?
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  Speaker 12: Well, I think it just confirms six months worth of
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  Speaker 12: polling which says that if an election been held anytime
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  Speaker 12: in the last six months, Labor couldn't form majority government,
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  Speaker 12: which would obviously be very disappointing for our bow and
• 16:31
  Speaker 12: the team. It confirms that what we all know, that
• 16:35
  Speaker 12: cost of living is pounding the government and continues to
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  Speaker 12: bear millstone around their neck, and they need to do
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  Speaker 12: more to demonstrate and work through explaining how the measures
• 16:51
  Speaker 12: they put in place around the double prescriptions, how the
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  Speaker 12: energy rebate, how the tax cuts are helping and in
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  Speaker 12: small ways dealing with some of those cost of living pressures.
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  Speaker 12: So each of them, none of them individually change the dial,
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  Speaker 12: but together they begin to build a storyline. And so
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  Speaker 12: they also need to be continuing to say we're fighting
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  Speaker 12: inflation and a second budget surplus is evidence of that.
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  Speaker 1: I got this.
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  Speaker 2: But Michael, here's the thing, the faith that more explanation
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  Speaker 2: will do the trick. This was the failing in the voice.
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  Speaker 1: Two.
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  Speaker 2: They're not very good explainers for one, and the second
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  Speaker 2: is it's the facts on the ground that are killing them,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: not their sales job or their inability to sell it.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, the performance is terrible. I mean, as you know,
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  Speaker 9: I said three weeks ago, Dutton was on seventy two seats,
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  Speaker 9: and I think today's poll bears that, Ad Andrew, that's
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  Speaker 9: exactly what he's on. I've got Albi on sixty six,
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  Speaker 9: so I can see Albany is he's losing twelve seats.
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  Speaker 9: If it's hell tomorrow, and if Dutton's on seventy two,
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  Speaker 9: he's got the probably favorite to win the election. He's
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  Speaker 9: got a bad product to sell pretty well everywhere you look.
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  Speaker 9: This guy has failed as Prime minister. And if you
• 18:06
  Speaker 9: look at the lack of social cohesion, in this country
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  Speaker 9: today solely brought about by his weakness. And as we
• 18:13
  Speaker 9: know Andrew, weakness is provocative and that's at the foot
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  Speaker 9: of the Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if anyone wants to hear a real red hot
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: go on that very point. Read Camera Milner's piece in
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  Speaker 2: the Nightly Online. My goodness me, but Steve, you drew
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  Speaker 2: my attention to something that I take as another sign
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  Speaker 2: of a growing crisis in labor.
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  Speaker 12: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Tony Lupton was a Victorian labor politician for eight years
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  Speaker 2: parlimentary secretary now writes it after a lifetime as a
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  Speaker 2: labor member, he finds labor no longer, no longer representing
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  Speaker 2: his values. He says he always believed in treating people equally,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: but labor has now fallen for identity politics, treating certain
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: people preferentially, giving them different rights, like with the voice
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: and now being Jewish. He sees labor not taking on
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  Speaker 2: the due hatred, not defending our values, caving into the
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  Speaker 2: Muslim lobby instead. It's not the only one, Steve. Do
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  Speaker 2: you find Tony Lupton's his take on what's happening to
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  Speaker 2: labor persuasion?
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  Speaker 12: Look, I've known to only a long time and I've
• 19:24
  Speaker 12: considered him in the past. Obviously we're both out of
• 19:26
  Speaker 12: politics now we don't bumpingish rather very often. But he's
• 19:29
  Speaker 12: a very good man and I can understand his anger
• 19:34
  Speaker 12: and frustration at both around the Israeli Middle East situation
• 19:40
  Speaker 12: where the government haven't done enough to indicate that you know,
• 19:44
  Speaker 12: and I think Mark Butler finally did it to say
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  Speaker 12: Israel have a right to defend itself. But what the
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  Speaker 12: broad left, I do include people in the Labor Party,
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  Speaker 12: need to understand you are barracking for Hamas, you are
• 19:56
  Speaker 12: barracking for hesbal A, You're barracking it Iran, a murderous
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  Speaker 12: regime that kills its own citizens. They are only people
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  Speaker 12: on your side in this debate, and they don't give
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  Speaker 12: a stuff about the Palaestinian people. So the only way
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  Speaker 12: to send a strong message to those sorts of terrorists
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  Speaker 12: and terrorists supporting regimes is to acknowledge that Israel have
• 20:24
  Speaker 12: a right to defend itself. Now, yes, they've got to
• 20:26
  Speaker 12: follow international law, they've got to be as careful as
• 20:29
  Speaker 12: they can, but in a war you will see circumstances
• 20:33
  Speaker 12: where innocent civilians are unfortunate victims of the fight to
• 20:39
  Speaker 12: root out these murderous individuals. But as I've said repeatedly
• 20:44
  Speaker 12: on your show before Andrew, the simplest way to stop
• 20:47
  Speaker 12: deaths in Gaza is for Hamas to lay down in
• 20:51
  Speaker 12: its arms and surrender, like any reasonable individual has done
• 20:56
  Speaker 12: across history.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: That's how you end civilian deaths.
• 20:59
  Speaker 12: You recognize as your cause has not worked, your atrocities needed,
• 21:03
  Speaker 12: your atrocities need to be accounted for, and you actually
• 21:07
  Speaker 12: lay down your arms and negotiate. But mar will continue review.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Where Stephen, Stephen Tony Lupton's critique of Labor went beyond that,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: went beyond that, it went to the identity politics that
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: in a sense brings us to this point where Labor's
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: portrayed Jews of Australia. But when you've got Stephen, who
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: is very reluctant to actually criticize Labor but did give
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: us that then reluctant to the point of infuriating our
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: audience sometimes when he does says that. When Tony Lupton
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: says what he says, there, in my opinion, is a
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: real drift in the Labor Party and its values that
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: is infuriating people of centrist labor tradition, and.
• 21:56
  Speaker 9: It goes on a long list of people of Labour's
• 22:00
  Speaker 9: most successful leaders ever. Be in Queensland Peter Betty the
• 22:02
  Speaker 9: other day, and you've seen the people like Michael Easson
• 22:05
  Speaker 9: and Mary Alexander Bill Shorten. We know all of the
• 22:08
  Speaker 9: people within the Labor Party who are in the Bob
• 22:10
  Speaker 9: Hawk tradition, and we now know those are in the
• 22:13
  Speaker 9: hard left tradition, which is Albanesi, which has nothing to
• 22:15
  Speaker 9: do with the Hawk Labor Party, and the weakness of
• 22:18
  Speaker 9: Albanesi in allowing these Palestinian demonstrations to take place every
• 22:23
  Speaker 9: Sunday in Melbourne and Sydney on the basis that I
• 22:25
  Speaker 9: were opposed the Israeli government. You know that's what they're
• 22:27
  Speaker 9: opposed to. Well, let me just say this, Andrew. Let's
• 22:30
  Speaker 9: call the Spata state here. Eighty percent of Israel is
• 22:33
  Speaker 9: made up by Jews. The Prime Minister is a Jew.
• 22:35
  Speaker 9: It's a Jewish state. Every single member of the Israeli
• 22:39
  Speaker 9: cabinet is a Jew. Right when you say you oppose Israel,
• 22:44
  Speaker 9: it's not just a technical legal corporate affairs constructor you know,
• 22:48
  Speaker 9: an anonymous amorphous name. It's a Jewish state. If you
• 22:52
  Speaker 9: oppose Israeli government, oppose what they're doing. You are opposing
• 22:56
  Speaker 9: the decisions made by Jews. You are opposing Jews. That's
• 22:59
  Speaker 9: what they're doing, right, This whole notion that oh no, no,
• 23:02
  Speaker 9: we're just a criticizing the government. Well, the government's entirely Jews,
• 23:06
  Speaker 9: made up of Jews. So a tax on Israel are
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: a tax.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: On Jews, no more, no less right.
• 23:12
  Speaker 9: And we've seen these demonstrations where terrorist flags, pictures of terrorists,
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: Nazi symbols, how must symbols, here's blass symbols. None of
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: the people who are holding those flags, are holding those signs,
• 23:23
  Speaker 9: were asked to leave the demonstrations. They happily went along.
• 23:27
  Speaker 9: No one asked them to leave. No one Why because
• 23:30
  Speaker 9: they're happily part of this whole anti Jewish Jewish hatred
• 23:35
  Speaker 9: that has arisen from the gutters and the sewers of
• 23:38
  Speaker 9: the extremes in this country. As there is Jewish hatred
• 23:42
  Speaker 9: in every country. For all all the reasons that we
• 23:44
  Speaker 9: can't go into, there is a sick group in the
• 23:46
  Speaker 9: world who just don't like Jews, and we should call
• 23:49
  Speaker 9: it out and not call it antisemitism, some technical term
• 23:53
  Speaker 9: you'd set our library at our library presentation of a
• 23:55
  Speaker 9: new book.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: These people just hate.
• 23:57
  Speaker 9: Jews, right, They're the lowest they are Jews, they have
• 24:00
  Speaker 9: the lowest form of racists. And the fact that these
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: Palestinian leaders running these demonstrations haven't stopped them and rooted
• 24:08
  Speaker 9: out the Nazi supporters of the terror supporters says a
• 24:12
  Speaker 9: lot about the demonstrations.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Andrew Well, I think the fact that Stephen Conroy has
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: selector his own party in the gentle way that he has,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: and Tony Lupton direct has written a whole piece on
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: it suggests that Labour has told Michael Danby Moorings it's
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: and Michael damp of course and more Cameron Milner shows
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: that Labored to me has lost It's totally lost its
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: sense of direction and of values, and that I think
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: is part of Labour's decline under Anthony Aberneasy, Michael Kroegus,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Stephen Conroy, thank you very much to you both. After
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: the break the third assassination attempt on Donald Trump. Now,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: although do something very odd about this one and proof
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: of a scandal how the United Nations has been caught
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: out leving terrorists far At Israel emeritus presidential campaign was
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: already the craziest in my lifetime. Now even more madness,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: a third assassination attempt on the front runner, Donald Trump,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: or actually probably not Plice arrested an anti government artist
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: a VEM. Miller, a Republican Party member, has run for
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: election and posed with the Republican figures, but was now
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: court with guns trying to get into a Trump rally
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: in California. The sheriff in charge claimed it was an
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: assassination attempt.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: I probably did have deputies that prevented the third assassination attempt, but.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Miller denies it and was freed on just a five
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars bail for possessing a loaded firearm. So it
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: seems no one actually does believe the sheriff joining me
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: as the country's top foreign affairs writing Greek Sheridan of
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: the Australian newspaper, Greg, there is such a real hysteria
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: around this election, and I can understand the sheriff's paranoia
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: and need to star in a TV series, But one
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: thing now is coming through. Kamala Harris's campaign seems to
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: be in trouble. Is that true?
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: I think that is true, Andrew, I remain absolutely agnostic
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: about this, whether this was an assassination attempt or not.
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: In principle, I'd be inclined to believe the local sheriff
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: before I believe the Biden Justice Department. But nonetheless, it
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: looks it seems unlikely. The Poles have got a little
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: bit worse for Kamala Harris in the last week. She's
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: actually done a few interviews, and even though they've been
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: absolutely softball, she's been horrifically terrible. I mean, it's a
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: very low bar to clear, isn't it being able to
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: just answer a question like you and I are doing
• 26:48
  Speaker 8: spontaneously on TV? And she's now leading marginally in the
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: national vote but behind in the battleground states, and on
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: current polls real clear politics as Trump winning six of
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: the seven battleground states and winning by more than three
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: hundred votes in the electoral College. Now, if the polls
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: the last two times badly underestimated Trump's vote, if they've
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: done that again this time, then the election's already over.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Trump's won by a mile. But I predict in a.
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: Column tomorrow the Democrats will give us a big October surprise,
• 27:20
  Speaker 8: which I think will probably be some outlandish legal move
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: against Trump, and they give us a big election day
• 27:26
  Speaker 8: surprise because they're desperate to stop Trump and the polls,
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: you know, they might not be underestimating Trump. It might
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: be as close as the polls say, and it's absolutely
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: on a ninth seedge.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I think, how can there be another surprise? Greg three
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: alleged assassination at tenth president knocked out of the race
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: on the first debate, blah blah blah. I mean, gosh,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: what qualifies as a surprise after all that? Meanwhile, a
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: really serious development in Israel's war against Well, I think so,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I'm interested. You know what you think? Hesbela drone got
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: through Israel's missile defense hit an Israeli army base in
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: northern Israel, killing lit four soldiers. To me, this shows
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Israel is actually much more vulnerable than most people assume,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: to attack by Iran and terror proxies and cannot sit
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: around tolerating terrorist scruts like Hezbela taking shots at it
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: from over the border. What do you make of this?
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: Well, I think you're right, Andrew. A few thoughts occurred
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: to me. One is that Israel is the only normal
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: state in that region where normal people Arab, Jewish, Muslim, Druis,
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: Christian can all lead normal lives, and the terrorsts hate that.
• 28:50
  Speaker 8: You know, there's a strong theory which I tend to
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: support that the reason Putin invaded Ukraine was not fear
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: of it joining NATO or anything. It was fear of
• 28:59
  Speaker 8: becoming a scessful European nation on his doorstep and a
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: democracy which he couldn't bear. And the Islamists and the
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: terrorists in Iran can't bear the idea of Israel as
• 29:10
  Speaker 8: a happy, democratic, prosperous society. But Lebanon could be a happy, democratic,
• 29:16
  Speaker 8: prosperous society. Now it's a people of genius, a font
• 29:19
  Speaker 8: of civilization. If Iran wasn't supporting and supplying and leading
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: Hezbollah into terrorism, the West Bank and Gaza could be
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: infinitely more affluent than they are now, if Iran wasn't
• 29:35
  Speaker 8: sponsoring the terrorism which come from those territories. Before there
• 29:40
  Speaker 8: was a ceasefire in place when Hamas committed its shocking
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: atrocities on October seven, and before those atrocities, Nettannahu was
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: allowing billions of dollars of aid into Gaza from the
• 29:52
  Speaker 8: Arab world, and he was allowing thousands and thousands of
• 29:55
  Speaker 8: Gazans to work in Israel proper for ISRAELI wager now,
• 30:00
  Speaker 8: if the terror threat had disappeared, if there were no Hummas,
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: there would be complete normalization. And that you know, it
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: could have been the Singapore at the Middle East. It's
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: the terrorists and the Islamists who hate normal life, and
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: one of the things they hate about Israel is its normality.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: That's so true. And don't forget the Lebanese also, I'm
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: sure you haven't great training people as well. It could
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: be anything Israel. This has shocked me Greg. Israel has
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: learned in the United Nations is not just an incompetent organization
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: that cannot be trusted to keep the peace.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Or its word.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: But I don't know. I think it's been treacherous. Eighteen
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: years ago, the UN sent peacekeepers under an outfit called
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: UNIFIL to southern Lebanon on a promise to Israel to
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: keep Hezbelo terrorists and rockets well away from the border,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: a long way away from the border. They completely fail,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: as we know from the rocket attack, and now Israel
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: has gone in to do the job instead has found
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: at one UN base after another there was there were
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Hesbela rocket launchers and Hesbela tunnels, right under their noses,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: where the UN had promised that they would not be
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: so close to UNIFIL watchtowers. That is impossible to believe
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: the UN didn't know. And now the UN's complaining the
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: two of his peacekeepers and wound of Israel in the
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: crossfire with Hesbela. What does all this till you?
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: Well, Andrew, you know, UNIFIL, the United Nations Interim Force
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: in Lebanon was designed to ensure that a United Nations
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: resolution which provided that Hesbela would withdraw north of the
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: Latani River thirty kilometers north of the Israel border, and
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: would disarm Lebanon. The only armed force in Lebanon was
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: to be the Lebanese Army. Now, UNIFIL has never enforced
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: a single speck at that. In the last year, has
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: below fired nine thousand rockets at Israel and univille didn't
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: stop one of them. Now, I don't blame those sold as.
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: I've met a number of them as probably you have
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: two up on the border there, and they're nice blokes.
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: I don't think they're pro has Bala or anything like that,
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: but they're completely ineffective. Now Nedda Yahu and Israel are
• 32:19
  Speaker 8: saying them well, for goodness sake, fellas, get out, because
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: what has Blara is doing is locating themselves next to
• 32:26
  Speaker 8: United Nations peacekeeping force bases. Now, these United Nations peacekeepers
• 32:31
  Speaker 8: have never done one zot of good for anybody. They've
• 32:35
  Speaker 8: had no effect on anything. They haven't stopped a single
• 32:38
  Speaker 8: hez Bala rocket from being fired. And Israeli is saying, well,
• 32:42
  Speaker 8: we are clearing out hez Bala from our border now
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: because Hezbalo wants to murder, rape and behead our people
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: like Hamastead on October seven. So just get out of
• 32:51
  Speaker 8: the road, go somewhere else. Leave, And the United Nations
• 32:54
  Speaker 8: are saying, no, no, no, we have our sacred missions
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: to shay here.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: It is a disgrace so much. Well, I think I
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: do know, like I say to be human shields. Greg Sheridan,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: thank you. After the break of Victoria's premiere gives a
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: secret sorry to the stolen generation. But who was she
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: actually saying sorry too? The defective voice, I think has
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: led Ministranders dare now to question other parts of the
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Aboriginal industry. The wild claims it. I'll give you two examples.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: One Victoria's premier center around on last Thursday made an
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: extraordinary apology to the Stolen Generations, extraorinly for two reasons. First,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: it was held in secret at a private gathering, with
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: no warning, no media invited. She announced it only later
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: on an Instagram post, saying she'd apologize to children she
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: claimed were forcibly removed from their families. The premiere later
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: defended secrecy, saying, wow, our shameful pass gave the stolen
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: children the right to say how the apology should be given,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: and it was in this safe way. I wondered if
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: the secrecy had another explanation, because two decades ago I
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: challenged Stolen Generation activists to name even just ten of
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: their one hundred thousand children the Human Rights Commission had
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: claimed was stolen from their families by racist officials just
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: because they were Aboriginal. Now, some people have abused me
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: as a racist for asking for just ten names, but
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: no activist has actually managed to answer the challenge. The
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: names they gave children say actually rested from abuse or neglect.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: And here's the strange thing about just interalling a Victorian
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: premier and now saying sorry to the Stolen Generation, because
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: two decades ago, another Victorian labor Premier Steve Brax had
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: a Solen Generation STARSK force chaired by Averages spaceman Jim
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Burg to look for these stolen children. From what I
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: could tell, the only ones who could find a mention
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: in its report hadn't been stolen, but adopted out by
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: their single mothers or sent to boarding schools by their parents.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: So it found no truly solid children, but did find
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Victoria had thirty six organizations supposedly helping them. So how
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: exactly did Alan secretly apologize to last Thursday and for what?
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: But to the other example of questioning wild claims, Federal
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Environment Minister Tenia Plibasec on Friday finally released her official
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: statement of reasons for effectively banning a one billion dollar
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: gold mine in New South Wales. Now. She said she
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: acted because the mind would affect ave rivers supposedly sacred
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: to the were Entry people and their blue banded bee
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: dreaming tradition. This is very odd. The official land council,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: the Orange Local Aboriginal Land Council says what be they
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: haven't heard of one, but Plymosk says, oh, look, there's
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: another small bunch of rogery people over there who told
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: that the bees fell from the Southern Cross to this area.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: And the reason other were jury and know this was
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: that it was secret knowledge handed down to just a
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: few people, including one of them. And it's proof that
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: there was this bee dreaming. Plimasek mentioned a big mural
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: painted on the post office in Bathurst with taxpayer money,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: but that mural is actually by a Queensland artist bitter
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Anger were injury who identifies as Aboriginal, that's true, but
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: used to be known as Robert Henderson, and he said
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: he hadn't actually been to a ragery country and didn't
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: know its stories until it was in his forties. And this,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: believe it or not, that's why the Abenese government stops
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: a one billion dollar mine. Joined me to discuss this
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: fastest center that Jonathan Dunham, the federal opposition's environment spokesman,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Dunney, and thank you for your time. You've never
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: read plebisc statement of reasons for effectively banning this mine.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Did you make the wrong call?
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: Andrew, absolutely, she made the wrong call.
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: It's a call that was not in the national interests,
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: as you've already said, A billion dollar gold mine, eight
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: hundred jobs through the construction phase, and hundreds more when
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: it's in full production, and hundreds of millions of dollars
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: of royalty revenue to New South Wales every year to
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: pay for hospitals and school something we desperately need. But
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: based on spurious claims which cannot be established, which have
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: been disputed by the legitimate Orange Aboriginal Land Council, she's
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: blocked this mind. So, having read this report cover to
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: cover a couple of times, now, every time I read
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: it I come out with more questions than answers. So
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: begs the question why did it take months to table
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: this flimsy document which does not back in her decision
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: one little bit.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: And released, of course, on Friday. The other thing, I wonder,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: even if you did believe there was this bee dreaming,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: a story of bees falling from the stars to around
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: this area, I mean, so what why should a story,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: even if it's believed both you were Agerie, ever stop
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: a mind? Do you understand that?
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: No, frankly I don't. The most alarming thing in this
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: statement of reasons was sort of the inverse of what
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: you've just described. The Minister in her statement says, the
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: proponents of the mind told me that they'd be having
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: to write off hundreds of millions of dollars of expenditure.
• 38:39
  Speaker 7: They also told us that the local.
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: Community would be economically decimated, that there would be devalue
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: of land in the area. So what was sort of
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: the response, We've got to protect this intangible heritage and
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: the connection to country. There is no balance in this
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: whatsoever and under the Act, she should have treated me
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: more weight to the economic and social impact of this
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: terrible decision, and then maybe we wouldn't have had this
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: disastrous call made by this minister. But it does really
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: point to her motivation as Environment minister. It isn't about jobs,
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: It's not about a future made in Australia. It's about
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: ideological green vote grabbing inner city, not about our regions.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Fancy believe in some fanciful story that's not even believed
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: in any were Injeri themselves and using It's just the
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: whole thing is staggering. Can I just ask you quickly,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: as senator today's news poll, my question is why are
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: you even more ahead of labor when it's been so bad.
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: Well, I think Australians are a pretty charitable bunch and
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: they're willing to give a government a go, as you
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: would appreciate. Not many first term governments have as terrible
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: standing in the polls as this one does. And I
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: would like to think that in part the reason things
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: are the way they are so early on in this
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: It's life.
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: Is because of the work of the coalition.
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: People's minds are starting to focus now and they're starting
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: to realize that as we head to another election and
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: the now Abnezi you promised his two hundred and seventy
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: five dollar power bill reduction, that we'd have millions more
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: jobs and that things would be better under this government
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: is all froth and bubble and absolutely no substance. So
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: in polling terms, they say, trend is your friend. We're
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: heading in the right direction. But I know we've got
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: a lot of work to do, and it's about making
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  Speaker 6: common sense decisions in out nations interests which this government
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: doesn't seem to get.
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  Speaker 2: Now, just bookmark here again that I thought the Labor
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: government should go to the electure for its own interests,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: not mine early because it wouldn't get any better. Well,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: they didn't take that advice. And now look, Senator Jonathan Dunnian,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: thank you so much, indeed for your time after the break.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: All six premiers snub King Charles are to swearing loyalty
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  Speaker 2: to him? What is their word worth? And Queensland premiers
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: is yes, there is such a thing as a free lunch,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: but is there? All our premiers are supposed to swear
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: allegiance to our monarch now, King Charles, under the system
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: of government that Australians voted for. Yet every one of
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: these premiers, almost all them labor has refused an invitation
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: to a reception for King Charles and Queen Camilla in
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Canberra at next Monday, at the start of their nine
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: day tour of Australia. Joining me at Damien Coury, a
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: corporate communications consultant and host of his own video podcasts.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: The other side as Stephen Trevoura, an author and senior
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: lecturer and history at Campion College, teaching Western civilization. And
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: since this is a question of civilization, Stephen, to you,
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: first six premiers, six refusals to be the King's reception
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  Speaker 2: in Canberra? Does it matter that they're so disloyal?
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: I think this is highly embarrassing.
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  Speaker 13: The British monarchy is one of the the oldest surviving
• 42:01
  Speaker 13: institutions in human history. With all the changes, all the
• 42:05
  Speaker 13: destruction that has taken place in human history, this monarchy,
• 42:09
  Speaker 13: this institution, has survived all of it. It oversaw the
• 42:14
  Speaker 13: settlement of this great country. It oversaw our transition to
• 42:17
  Speaker 13: becoming a democracy, decades before Britain became a democracy. It
• 42:22
  Speaker 13: happily allowed us to become independent at Federation. Since the
• 42:26
  Speaker 13: nineteen fifties, monarchs have visited Australia on many, many occasions.
• 42:33
  Speaker 13: King Charles himself has a personal history with Australia, coming
• 42:36
  Speaker 13: here in nineteen sixty six to seventeen year old to school.
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  Speaker 13: It's incredibly embarrassing that our premiers would not go and
• 42:45
  Speaker 13: see our King, who is part of an institution that
• 42:49
  Speaker 13: is intrinsic to our heritage. So I actually think it's
• 42:53
  Speaker 13: a rather shameful and embarrassing episode in our cultural life
• 42:57
  Speaker 13: at the moment.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Danie Courriy, I'd go a bit further and say, you know,
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: we need premiers to show respect to the traditions and
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: the institutions that they were elected under and show that
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: there word matters. Disrespect for institutions is what is unfortunately
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: too common at the moment.
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: It is Andrew, and it's not just disrespect for institutions.
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: It's disrespect for us, it's disrespect for the Australian people,
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: because whether you're a republican or you're a monarchist, at
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: the moment in Australia, the king is the king. The
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: king is the head of state and we need to
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: pay respect to that until we have a republic referendum.
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: Once again we see premiers, specifically from the left, taking
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: it upon themselves to decide what they're going to do.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: They ignored the voice vote. They're doing their own thing
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: with their own voice programs type things happening all over
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: the States, and now we're seeing this absolute disregard for
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: the will of the people once again.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: It's a snub, but it's a snub to us.
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: It's the great disconnect and the great disrespect of the
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: Australian people.
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  Speaker 2: I think they forget that they've got their private views,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: that got that. They can campaign on them all they like,
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: but this is the institution that we have now sanctioned
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: by the voter of the Australians. That pay respect to
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: that or just give up their commissions. To the Queensland election,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: one of the most desperate election bribs I've ever seen
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: from struggling Premier Stephen Mars.
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: Here it is labor will create a universal school lunch
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: program in our state primer school with.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: The labor crowd eating it up.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: That's free lunches for all students, whether rich or poor,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: although not for students in private schools Christian schools. And
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: when Miles says these lunches are free, that's actually a
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: lie because taxpayers are going to have to pay one
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: point four billion dollars over four years to feed other
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: people's children. This is a good idea, Stephen.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: No, it's a terrible idea.
• 45:11
  Speaker 13: And what business does the Queensland state government have feeding
• 45:15
  Speaker 13: the feeding any parent's kids. If I was a parent
• 45:20
  Speaker 13: in Queensland, I'd feel kind of insulted that the government
• 45:23
  Speaker 13: is almost assuming that I can't feed or don't want
• 45:25
  Speaker 13: to feed my own children. As Queensland is a third
• 45:29
  Speaker 13: world state where children are desperate for government heroes to
• 45:33
  Speaker 13: come in on food trucks distributing food to people. And
• 45:37
  Speaker 13: maybe Queensland will become a third World state because it's debt.
• 45:41
  Speaker 13: Estimates say that its debt is heading towards nearly two
• 45:44
  Speaker 13: hundred billion dollars over the next four years. But this
• 45:47
  Speaker 13: is just a cynical attempt to get queensland As hooked
• 45:50
  Speaker 13: on more government handouts. I don't think it's going to work.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: What do you make of this? I mean, this whole ridiculu,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: this idea that the government should step in and do
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: the parenting for others. Damien, what do you make of it?
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's absurd And once again it's the arrogance of
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: left wing governments, right.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is socialism.
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: They think that they can run everything better than anybody
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: who's actually in the business can. And we had the
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: School Principles Association coming out and saying, hang on a minute,
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: if you've got one point four billion dollars to throw around,
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: how about you give it to us to manage, because
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: we actually know how to run schools and what to
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: do with it.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: But no, this is just more Look, it's it's just
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: a stunt. It's an election stunt.
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: They're trying to copy everything was Green's policy in twenty
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: twenty one, and they're trying to copy all the Greens
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: policy in order to capture some of the Greens vote.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: It's just ridiculous stuff.
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: I mean, we've got fifty cent public transport, We've got
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: thousand dollars energy bill, rebates twenty percent off Red Joe
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: free Kinney, free Tafe, all of this, and now this
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: nonsense coming from a government that's one hundred and thirty
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: billion with a B dollars in debt and heading to
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: one hundred and eighty eight billion dollars debt in twenty
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: twenty seven. And it's not taxpayers paying for this, it's
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: our kids in the future paying for it, the young,
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: and I hope they wake up to it and realize
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: this is what you get when you've vote green.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Children, enjoy your free lunch because you'll actually have to
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: pay for it when you're adults.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Just very Stevens exactly.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: It was a rally about There's a rally by about
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: forty or fifty racists of Coral on the weekend calling
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: for white men to fight back. There were cows as
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: well as a racist not daring to show their faces
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: foul people. But I know this, at least unlike the
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: pro palatin In protests, they did not vandalize buildings, They
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: did not personally threaten Jews that I know of. They
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: did not attack police, they did not block cars. What
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: does it say about so many pro Palatine activists that
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: they behave worse than these Neon Nazis.
• 47:47
  Speaker 13: Well, the pro Palestinian activists, they were some of the
• 47:51
  Speaker 13: ugliest protests that we've seen in recent years in Australia,
• 47:55
  Speaker 13: and with this sort of pro white rally, I just
• 47:58
  Speaker 13: want to say that if people are ended at that
• 48:01
  Speaker 13: kind of rehtoric, just understand that it's just the mirror
• 48:04
  Speaker 13: image of the identity politics that's been so popular over
• 48:08
  Speaker 13: the last ten years and certainly during the Voice referendum,
• 48:12
  Speaker 13: where only white people have to apologize in the past.
• 48:15
  Speaker 13: Only white people have a bad history, only white people
• 48:18
  Speaker 13: have no right to protect their culture.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: This is what you get. You assume it.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Is an equal and opposite reaction. Yep, Steve Drevera, Damon Curry,
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: thanks for your time. That's it for me, coming up
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: back from her triumph in Israel. Sherry Markson