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Best of Chuck & Buck 10-21 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Sounds Chrick, Good morning, folks.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning everyone, Good morning, it's some time.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning class ladies and gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 4: Behold inducing six one yard from Brighton, Illanois and former
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  Speaker 4: high school basketball stand.
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  Speaker 3: What in the hell does en me? Don't jumped any conclusions,
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  Speaker 3: not a god.
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  Speaker 5: You've got to lower you lower your expectations.
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  Speaker 4: Hard to believe we could once send a fastball to Pluto.
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  Speaker 6: I'm getting some Bucky jacobs and vibes and former I'll
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  Speaker 6: just openly admit I'm a fat, out of shaped ex athlete.
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  Speaker 3: Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.
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  Speaker 4: Five seven guard and a former college water polo national champions.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of useless crap up here.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, this is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with
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  Speaker 4: Ashley Ryan.
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  Speaker 3: What do you buy to?
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  Speaker 4: They look casino resort and Quilsee to Greek Draft KNY
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  Speaker 4: sports book where the action never stopped.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, good morning, Welcome into the radio program. It is
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  Speaker 3: Chuggunbuck Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. We're here
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  Speaker 3: for you on a Tuesday and in more ways than one,
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  Speaker 3: because I know the people out there need the support.
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  Speaker 3: Rough night, last night for the Seattle sports scene. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: the football team won, but certainly all thoughts were or
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  Speaker 3: at least most of them with the Mariners and their
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  Speaker 3: attempt to make history, to end the drought and make
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  Speaker 3: it to the World Series for the first time in
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  Speaker 3: franchise history, and they came up three innings short, lost
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  Speaker 3: to the Toronto Blue Jays four to three last night.
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  Speaker 3: And so we gather again here on this Tuesday morning,
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  Speaker 3: Ashley Ryan, Buck Jacobson, and Chuck Powell to sort of
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  Speaker 3: make sense of it all here on a Tuesday morning.
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  Speaker 3: Certainly not the result that we were looking for. I know,
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  Speaker 3: for many of you lifelong fans, a crushing blow last night,
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  Speaker 3: and there's nothing that we're going to say today that's
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  Speaker 3: going to make you feel better about anything. But last night,
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  Speaker 3: Bucky and I had a little bit of a two
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  Speaker 3: hour therapy session and it went pretty well. You know,
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  Speaker 3: on our postgame show last night, we took some calls
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  Speaker 3: and things of that nature and actually talked to a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people that had a pretty good level head
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  Speaker 3: about all of this. I'm sure a lot of the
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  Speaker 3: others just didn't want to call and didn't want to
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  Speaker 3: talk about it. I'm sure there were people that didn't
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  Speaker 3: have a very level head about it last night. But nonetheless,
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  Speaker 3: maybe that's the role that we can play in your
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  Speaker 3: lives here this morning, just kind of talking through it
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  Speaker 3: here because the Mariners came up just a little bit
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  Speaker 3: short of the World Series.
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  Speaker 6: The yeah, yeah, and it felt good for most of
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  Speaker 6: the game, you know, felt like you're on your way,
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  Speaker 6: and a couple missed opportunities and a couple opportunities seized
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  Speaker 6: by the opponent.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it, it's a rough one.
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  Speaker 6: I feel worse actually today than I did right after
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  Speaker 6: the game.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if that's the hour of sleep. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: maybe that's what it is.
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  Speaker 6: Or if it's that, I mean, I think that it's
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  Speaker 6: it's a combination. I mean it's it kind of sinks
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  Speaker 6: in that now, as excited.
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  Speaker 3: As I am about how well, how well, how.
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  Speaker 6: Much I like the team right, not just the dudes,
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  Speaker 6: but how they play, and I think that there's still
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  Speaker 6: is potential for growth with a lot of these players.
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  Speaker 3: I think they can still get better.
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  Speaker 6: We didn't just watch an old team, you know, with
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  Speaker 6: their last chance at possibly doing something fun and memorable
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  Speaker 6: for us as fans to ride along with. It still
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  Speaker 6: is the prospect of watching one hundred and sixty two
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  Speaker 6: to get back to a place to hopefully be able
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  Speaker 6: to be nine outs away from punching your ticket to
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  Speaker 6: the big one. It just feels daunting. It doesn't feel
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  Speaker 6: impossible by any stretch. I know for a fact, I'm
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  Speaker 6: going to be optimistic when you know, as time kind
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  Speaker 6: of goes by.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm one that typically doesn't expect.
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  Speaker 6: I don't expect the twenty twenty five Mariners to make
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  Speaker 6: up for heartbreak that I've suffered as a Mariner fan
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  Speaker 6: and even the little bit as a Mariner player for
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  Speaker 6: the past forty five years. Basically, I don't think I
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  Speaker 6: was a big marinor fan before I was five, but
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  Speaker 6: up until then or since then, I have been. It's
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  Speaker 6: not their obligation to make up for that. And so
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  Speaker 6: when they fall short of the goals that they had
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  Speaker 6: put forth and almost achieved and that they were attainable,
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  Speaker 6: I can't really throw it back on them, as if
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  Speaker 6: you let me down for forty five years, you let
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  Speaker 6: me down this year.
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  Speaker 3: And yet I'm.
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  Speaker 6: Positive you watch some clips of these guys and I
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  Speaker 6: think the they let themselves and let they feel far
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  Speaker 6: more they feel worse about it than even I do
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  Speaker 6: and most Mariner fans. So I just think that it's
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  Speaker 6: a it's a rough it's a rough morning, for sure,
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  Speaker 6: because you kind of saw it right there on the
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  Speaker 6: horizon before that one big swing that George Springer took.
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  Speaker 7: I found that I didn't even allow myself to think
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  Speaker 7: about the World Series until the first inning last night.
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  Speaker 7: All of a sudden, the thought crept in of like
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  Speaker 7: this is Game seven, Like the winner of this, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: goes to.
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  Speaker 5: The World Series.
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  Speaker 7: And it kind of was the first time that I'd
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  Speaker 7: actually allowed myself to think about it. And then I
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  Speaker 7: then the thought went away, and I was like, nope,
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  Speaker 7: we got a long.
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  Speaker 5: Game to go.
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  Speaker 7: Just we're just just playing a baseball game. Let's just
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  Speaker 7: see what happens. And then once we were nine outs away,
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  Speaker 7: everybody you kept seeing everybody, Okay, nine outs, nine outs,
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  Speaker 7: that's all we gotta do, and it was seeming like
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  Speaker 7: this is actually now within reach. And so I'd finally
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  Speaker 7: got into the part where I was going to let
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  Speaker 7: myself think this could happen, and then Springer came and
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  Speaker 7: I just it was like crush, like gut punch, and
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  Speaker 7: just it was the second that happened, and I normally
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  Speaker 7: have never that way because I always think this team
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  Speaker 7: can rally, this team can come back. I don't know,
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  Speaker 7: but something about that home run from George Springer, it
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  Speaker 7: was like, Nope, that's it, it's done, and it sucked.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was definitely a gut punch. I mean, here,
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  Speaker 3: you get to a game seven, you led most of
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  Speaker 3: the game. Yeah, you you know, I had our boss
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  Speaker 3: sitting next to me during the course of the game
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  Speaker 3: pretty much just counting down the outs audibly in my ear,
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  Speaker 3: and his anxiety certainly added to my anxiety in the moment.
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  Speaker 3: But when you I mean you basically outplayed them for
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  Speaker 3: seventy percent of the game. You led seventy percent of
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  Speaker 3: the game. Uh. And then they had after the first inning,
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  Speaker 3: really just one rally. I mean, I guess they put
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  Speaker 3: one together in the munnose inning and we got out
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  Speaker 3: of that. Got a little lucky there to get out
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  Speaker 3: of that without any further damage. And that's why I thought,
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  Speaker 3: oh man, they're gonna do this again. We just they
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  Speaker 3: had first and third, nobody out. They just hit a
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  Speaker 3: bullet and Nailer nabbed it, doubled the guy off first.
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  Speaker 3: We are gonna do that. They're gonna do this to
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  Speaker 3: us again. They're just gonna take it all the way
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  Speaker 3: to the brink and then pull it out miraculously. It's
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  Speaker 3: the year of Cal. He was due up fourth the
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  Speaker 3: following inning. It's gonna be the year of Cal. He's
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  Speaker 3: gonna get up there somehow, Julio's gonna work a walk,
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  Speaker 3: Something's gonna happen. Cal's gonna get to the plate and
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  Speaker 3: do something spectacular in the Year of Cal. So I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: I was still thinking that they were gonna pull it
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  Speaker 3: off somehow, even after the Springer home run. But there's
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  Speaker 3: no doubt. I mean, it was a gut punch because
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  Speaker 3: you led most of the way, you did enter sort
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  Speaker 3: of countdown mode at some point you couldn't help but
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  Speaker 3: do it. Uh. And it was just a matter of
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  Speaker 3: and it really was a matter of how do we
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  Speaker 3: get to Munnos? How are we going to get because
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  Speaker 3: he was going to pitch two innings, How are we
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  Speaker 3: going to get to Munos? And that in between period
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  Speaker 3: that Dan Wilson found himself in is the thing that
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  Speaker 3: Mariner fans are going to debate for the rest of
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  Speaker 3: their lives. I don't care if you're fifteen years old,
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  Speaker 3: like Bennett who called into the show last night, or
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  Speaker 3: if you're one hundred and five and you felt that
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  Speaker 3: this was the last chance you had to add to
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  Speaker 3: see the Mariners get into the World Series. For the
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  Speaker 3: rest of Mariner fans lives, they are going to debate
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  Speaker 3: whether or not Dan Wilson pushed the right buttons there,
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  Speaker 3: and obviously he didn't. Springer ends up hitting the home run.
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  Speaker 3: That doesn't necessarily mean he made a mistake, but certainly
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  Speaker 3: a debatable topic for the rest of a Mariner fan's
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  Speaker 3: life as to what should have happened in that sequence.
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  Speaker 3: It's very clear, Bucky that what Dan Wilson was I
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  Speaker 3: think the organization had kind of tied themselves to was
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  Speaker 3: George Kirby through two turns through the lineup, and we
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  Speaker 3: don't want to expose him for a third turn because
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  Speaker 3: that's where he's gotten in trouble, and each of his
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  Speaker 3: postseason starts is to have face a lineup the third
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  Speaker 3: time through, and even though he was mowing people down,
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  Speaker 3: they stuck to their game plan. It was going to
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  Speaker 3: be four innings for Kirby, and then Tom Verducci said
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  Speaker 3: before the game Brian who was going to play a
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  Speaker 3: major role in this game tonight. And so the idea
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  Speaker 3: was that Brian Wu, we saw enough in his last outing.
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  Speaker 3: He's going to go for three innings. That's the master plan,
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  Speaker 3: and then we handed over to Munjos for two innings.
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  Speaker 3: And their plan b was if anybody gets in trouble
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  Speaker 3: along the way, because Spire was up early and then
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  Speaker 3: Bizardo was up late, and we're going to put out
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  Speaker 3: the middle of the inning fires with Spire Bizardo and
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  Speaker 3: I would presume Brash might have been the third guy
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  Speaker 3: that they might have used in that scenario. And so
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  Speaker 3: they stuck to the game plan. But something that Bucky
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  Speaker 3: said last night, something you said, stuck with me on
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  Speaker 3: the drive home. I woke up with it this morning,
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  Speaker 3: and that was man Brian Wu had dominated George Springer
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  Speaker 3: in that one at bat that they faced. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: George Springer had obviously a great series against us, had
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  Speaker 3: a great year this year. But the one time he
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  Speaker 3: looked not just he looked foolish was the one at
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  Speaker 3: Batti had against Brian Wu last night. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: we had a long conversation about whether or not you
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  Speaker 3: should add Munnos ready. A lot of people were talking
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  Speaker 3: about that. It turns out last night I didn't find
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  Speaker 3: out that until I was home. We talked about it
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  Speaker 3: significantly last night in the postgame show. We even entertained
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  Speaker 3: the idea of at least have Brash ready, have a
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  Speaker 3: strikeout guy ready in that situation. But more I thought
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  Speaker 3: about it, the more what you said about Wu dominating Springer,
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  Speaker 3: It's not like Brian Wu. I mean, he walked the
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  Speaker 3: first batter. Shame on Brian of that inning, and then
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  Speaker 3: Kiner Filefa with his kind of falafel base hit through
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  Speaker 3: the middle of the inning, the middle of the of
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  Speaker 3: the diamond, which was flukish, and then you got the
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  Speaker 3: sacrifice bunt down. Maybe Wu, maybe you should have stuck
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  Speaker 3: with your game plan. Maybe you should have stuck with
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  Speaker 3: Brian Wu in that situation and see if the guy
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  Speaker 3: who's pitched better than any other Mariner throughout the course
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  Speaker 3: of the year, that you felt good enough about physically
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  Speaker 3: to put into to take George Kirby out of the
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  Speaker 3: game when he was mowing fools down and put Wu
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  Speaker 3: into the game with the idea that you were on
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  Speaker 3: pitch him for three innings. Maybe that was the mistake.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it wasn't that Munjos wasn't up and ready to
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  Speaker 3: go just in case, or that Brash was also up
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  Speaker 3: with Bizardo because maybe you would need a strike out
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  Speaker 3: that inning and he's more of a strikeout pitcher. Those
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  Speaker 3: are both things that we discussed last night. Maybe the
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  Speaker 3: route to go was to have stuck to the game
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  Speaker 3: plan and see if Brian Wu could make George Springer
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  Speaker 3: look foolish again. Maybe that was the error as we
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  Speaker 3: That's what I kind of arrived at by the time
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  Speaker 3: I came into work this morning. That now, because I
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  Speaker 3: had said last night I wanted Munos up in that
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  Speaker 3: situation just in case traffic on the base pass last time,
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  Speaker 3: you're going to face the top of the order, why
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  Speaker 3: won't you have your best reliever ready for that situation.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that was an air last night. I still
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  Speaker 3: think you probably should have done that. But maybe the
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  Speaker 3: decision was the original plan. Brian Wu's not like he
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  Speaker 3: was getting hit around the ballpark, Bucky. I mean, let
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  Speaker 3: him face Springer and see if he can get out
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  Speaker 3: of that mess, rather than going to bizar to in
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  Speaker 3: that situation.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I mean we've talked about it multiple times throughout
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  Speaker 6: the course of the season, and I've most recently when
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  Speaker 6: we were talking during the Detroit series when they decided
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  Speaker 6: to take Trek Scooble out of a game, and I
• 13:06
  Speaker 6: remember you saying, you know, you've probably made a mistake
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  Speaker 6: when the other team is joyous over the fact that,
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  Speaker 6: thank God he's out. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like, oh, thanks,
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  Speaker 6: Whether it's pitch cown or you think you got the
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  Speaker 6: lead enough and now you're gonna go to guys that
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  Speaker 6: are used to pitching in this inning or what like,
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  Speaker 6: there's something to that. And I kind of felt that
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  Speaker 6: in the moment of they were actually showing the TV
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  Speaker 6: was actually showing George Springer like.
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  Speaker 3: Dann, are you gonna come get him out? Are you
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  Speaker 3: gonna You're gonna make a pitching change?
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  Speaker 6: I hope right, because he did not, Like I mean,
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  Speaker 6: the last two times he faced him, he wore one
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  Speaker 6: off the knee and then got struck out on three pitches,
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  Speaker 6: looking horrendous, looking as bad as he's looked probably ever
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  Speaker 6: in a postseason at bat. You know, there's things about
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  Speaker 6: Brian Wu that are kind of surprised me as to
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  Speaker 6: how dominant he is and can be with just his fastball.
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  Speaker 6: But I think it's there's something about the arm angle,
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  Speaker 6: and there's something about the late life on it, and
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  Speaker 6: there's something about how he hides it a little bit
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  Speaker 6: because it makes it.
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  Speaker 3: He makes it look like it's really hard, really hard
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  Speaker 3: to hit.
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  Speaker 6: And obviously it is and and and so yeah, there's
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  Speaker 6: questions to be had there there, and unfortunately there are
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  Speaker 6: questions that will never know an answer to.
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  Speaker 3: That's the thing exactly about it that sometimes he stays in.
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  Speaker 3: He gives up a home run to George Spring, you.
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  Speaker 6: Know, yeah, and you know, well, and you know, you
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  Speaker 6: bring in a guy that's been pretty damn nails for you,
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  Speaker 6: and you know there's a chance that he gets out
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  Speaker 6: of that situation too. And so I just it didn't
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  Speaker 6: happen last night, and unfortunately we have to kind of
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  Speaker 6: live with it. But yeah, the the questions, I mean,
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  Speaker 6: you know, I think Dan Wilson said we were listening
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  Speaker 6: to his press conference last night a little bit during
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  Speaker 6: the post game show, and he's like, you make decisions,
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  Speaker 6: and you live with the decisions you make. And and
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  Speaker 6: so I think that a lot of times in playoff Bay,
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  Speaker 6: you want to be a little bit preemptive, right during
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  Speaker 6: the regular season, you'd let things ride a little bit,
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  Speaker 6: you kind of kind of let it breathe and see
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  Speaker 6: what your guys can do to get out of it.
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  Speaker 6: Typically in the postseason you want to make sure that
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  Speaker 6: you don't you're not a batter too late, and so
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  Speaker 6: I think that's probably where they They're right, here's our
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  Speaker 6: game plan, and if we're going to make adjustments, it's
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  Speaker 6: going to try to be a little bit preemptive on it.
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  Speaker 6: And I just now, yeah, I really really wish we
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  Speaker 6: would have been able to see what Brian wu could
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  Speaker 6: do against George Springer there. But that's there's a part
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  Speaker 6: of that, even though I was thinking in the moment,
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  Speaker 6: there's still is part of it. My feeling with it
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  Speaker 6: right now most certainly is based on the way in
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  Speaker 6: which the outcome happened.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's the problem first year manager and
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  Speaker 3: Dan Wilson, who I thought the speed of the game
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  Speaker 3: kind of did haunt him during the course of the year,
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  Speaker 3: and it certainly gets ramped up in the playoffs, and
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  Speaker 3: it absolutely gets ramped up in a Game seven. But
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  Speaker 3: I think they had a game plan, and I think
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  Speaker 3: he's stuck with a game plan, and where would that
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  Speaker 3: plan be in case the game plan has to adjust
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  Speaker 3: on the fly. I mean football coaches have to do
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  Speaker 3: this all the time. Right. Oh wait a minute, you're
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  Speaker 3: showing this look now, even though I wanted to run
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  Speaker 3: this play and you can call an audible at some point,
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  Speaker 3: what was wrong with getting Munjos and Bizardo ready? What
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  Speaker 3: was wrong with that? It's as if we had a
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  Speaker 3: game plan and he just went out there to execute
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  Speaker 3: the game plan. If Wu gets in any trouble or
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: if Kirby gets in any trouble mid inning, we're bringing Inspire.
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  Speaker 3: He was standing up ready to go. Then we're going
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  Speaker 3: to go to Wu. If Wu gets into any trouble
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  Speaker 3: and first and second nobody out, or second and third
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  Speaker 3: one out because they kept him in for the sack
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  Speaker 3: bunt uh, then we're going to Bizardo and then we're
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: going to go for Munjos to close it out. Like
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  Speaker 3: if anything, that I would criticize because going to Bizardo
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  Speaker 3: should not be something that Marin or fans are furious about.
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  Speaker 3: He was really good all year long. He was good
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  Speaker 3: every outing. He was outstanding. I mean we were talking
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  Speaker 3: about him in the last year. Is the sung hero
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  Speaker 3: of this team, and yet I still don't view him
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  Speaker 3: as one of our top two dudes coming out of
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  Speaker 3: the bullpen and in the biggest at bat of the
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  Speaker 3: entire year. If you would have told me we were
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: going to go to Bizardo to face George Springer with
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: the with the World Series on the line at the
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: beginning of the year, I would have probably had you
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: submitted somewhere, you know, yeah, like committed to you know,
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: a straight jacket for the rest of your life. No
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: way was that ever going to happen. And and yet
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: he kind of painted himself into that corner of I
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: don't have anybody else loose, I gotta go with Bizardo
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: here because that's the game plan that we came in with.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: To me, after thinking about it for a while, if
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: that's the corner that you painted yourself in, to me,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Brian Wu is the better operator in that situation, and
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: you should have just rowed that out. But that's a
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: little bit of hindsight. Yeah, certainly in the moment, I
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: felt Munho should be up and ready in case. But
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: if you didn't go that direction, then maybe you let
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: your best pitcher see if he can at least get
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Springer out in that situation.
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: Well, and what about the idea of just intentionally walking
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: Springer too? I mean I saw a lot of people
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: asking that question, like why. I mean even it was
• 18:21
  Speaker 7: I think the analyst said that before they when they
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: were taking Wu out and Springer was due up, they
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: were saying, do you think the Marriagers are going to
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: intentionally walk Springer here?
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: I don't like that idea at all because there was
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: only one out. So if you walk him, okay, you
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: get Lucas to come to the plate, but then you've
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: got Guerrero. I mean they came into the game wondering
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: if we should pitch to Guerrero at all. Yeah, so
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: you certainly aren't going to risk loading the bases for
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: him in the seventh inning with the game on the line.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: And he didn't exactly look off his game last night.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: He didn't get struck out once, but he nearly took
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: the head off of Randy A. Roseerena and has lasted past. Yeah.
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that that's I mean, maybe it would
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: have worked because you're at that point, if you're walking Springer,
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: you're showing him the respect that he deserves because he
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: as much as I can't stand the guy. He's damn
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: good in the postseason, and and he was good there.
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: Obviously the moment's never too big for him. And yet
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: you're basically saying, God, I hope we get a double
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: play here. Otherwise you're brilling bringing lad into the equation.
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: And if I have to pick my poison, I don't care.
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: Even in hindsight, George Springer goes yard and you know,
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: basically propels them to win. I still am picking George
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: Springer that I'm going after.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: George Springer who clearly couldn't put weight on his back leg.
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, look like you put enough weight on it
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: there in that swing.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah uh yeah.
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: It's again that that's the part. That's the thing that sucks,
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: whether you're a fan or whether you're a player, is
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: the decisions, the actions, the way in which you play,
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: the opportunities missed that you never get to do over again.
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: You never get to know what would have happened if
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: we did this, or if I would have done that,
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: or none of it matters. You just basically find yourself
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: on the outside looking in, three innings away from punching
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: your ticket to the World Series. And it stings. And
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: so I mean the pain's real. I think the players
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: feel it, we as fans feel it, and unfortunately we
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: got to wait until this time next year to try
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: to redo it.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: All right, we got four hours to discuss it. We
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: will talk some Seahawks football today as well. That's pretty
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: much the game plan for US today, and we probably
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: won't adjust on the fly either. Let's find out what's
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: on tap for today's show.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: Well, what's on TEP, what's on top?
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: One last session with Ryan Healey his thoughts here today
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: at eight thirty. Even though I do believe we found
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: a friend of the program, and who knows, maybe we'll
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: hear from more of Ryan throughout the offseason. He's been
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: terrific through the postseason four US, so we'll have a
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: chat with him about the season coming to a close
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: at eight thirty today. The World Series will start on Friday.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: I'm not really sure I'm gonna watch. I don't know.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: I don't have any interest as of right now. That's
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: what I said.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: I was last night.
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: I was like, I have no interest in watching the
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: World Series. That all my mom goes, yes, you will,
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: because you'll have to talk about it at work. I said, no,
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: we don't.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think we will. We can read the highlights.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: As much as I want to see Show Aotani, I
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: just can't get enough of watching Show Aotani. I really
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: at this stage have no interest in this Monday Night football.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Seahawks twenty seven to nineteen winners over the Houston Texans
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: last night. Monday Morning quarterback session today from nine to
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: ten with Hugh Millen, so we will discuss that Seahawks
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: enter the bye week with a five and two record,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: which is tied for the second best record in the
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: entire NFC right now, So Seahawks enter the bye week
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: on a really strong note. We'll talk about that. Also.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Greg Bell joins this at seven oh five. Lions won
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: over the Buccaneers last night twenty four to nine, both
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: of those teams five and two on the year as well.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Husky host Illinois Saturday at twelve thirty. Intimidating. I know,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: to face a powerhouse like that, just one hundred years
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: of just nothing but dominance. But you will do their
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: best against the Orange and Blue crack and fall to
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: the Flyers last night five to two. It's their first
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: outright loss of the entire season. They will be back
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: in action tonight against the Washington Capital, so back to
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: back road games. They'll start that at four o'clock. Sounders
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: will take on Minnesota United to start the MLS playoffs,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: or at least their MLS playoff Monday at six o'clock.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: And believe it or not, the NBA season tips off
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: tonight on NBC and Peacock Houston at Oklahoma City and
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Golden State at the Lakers, the two games being played
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: this evening in the National Basketball Association. We're not going
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: to talk about it, Mariners morning after his next sports
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Radio ninety three point three KJRFM headlines at seven plus.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: You got Greg Bell at seven five to recamp last
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: night Seahawks win over the Texans. We will talk more
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Seahawks with Hugh Millen today at nine o'clock. We'll have
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: an hour long Monday morning quarterback session. Of course, so
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: we are obsessed right now with talking Marinders baseball. The
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: team eliminated from the playoff picture last night in crushing fashion.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: They came within three innings of making it to the
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: World Series. But I tell you what, if anything, my
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: love for Josh Naylor grew last night. Yes, I'm with
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: everybody else that that's priority number one this offseason for
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: the Mariners to bring that first baseman back. My goodness, Bucky,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: I've never seen this happen before. We were taught as
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: old kids. Anybody that's ever played shortstop or second base
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: at a level higher than Little League, you were always taught,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, go ahead and throw it side arm it.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: You got to get that runner down. He'll go down.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Don't worry. He doesn't want to get hit in the
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: face unless your name is Josh Naylor. Josh Naylor decided
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: I'm going to take one in the back of the
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: skull if I have to, because they tell me I'm
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: supposed to get down on this play not written anywhere
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: that I got to slide here. So I'm just gonna
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: take one on the back of the skull here if
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: I have to. That and just some clever defensive plays
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: last night. He had an RBI single in the game
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: last night. I was wanting him to get to the
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: plate in the ninth because I was just sure he
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: was going to come through for the team in the situation,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: and he ended up, you know, second in the hole
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: that inning. But I mean, Josh Naylor did everything that
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: you want a leader and a ballplayer to do in
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: that situation.
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well you nailed it with the ballplayer. I mean,
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: that's what he is. He's a ballplayer. He goes out there,
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: he understands. It doesn't mean he's going to be perfect,
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: but more often than not, gonna get the proper approach.
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: As much as people maybe get sick of hearing me
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: say it, it's it's what makes you a good baseball
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: player is having a good approach. You can have all
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: the tools in the world, and he doesn't have all
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: the tools in the world. He obviously has good eyes,
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: good hands, good eye hand coordination, got a little bit
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: of pop and and but how does a guy that
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: is the second slowest guy in Major League Baseball still
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: thirty bases because he has instincts, he has a feel
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: for the game. He understands the game that I mean
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: the rule you don't have to get down, you just
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: when he jumps, then you're interfering with the throw. And
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: so I wasn't thinking that it should have been called.
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: And yet once you kind of think about the letter
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: of the law, then yeah, that's that's interference, I guess.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: But it's one of those because I mean, you'd but
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: you know, what though. I mean, he was there, they
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: were dead in the water. That was gonna be a
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: double playball, and here's somebody that says, I'm not gonna
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: get down.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: Just see what happens.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see what happens, you know, because there's not
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: a rule that says you have to slide in that situation.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: But the umpires do have the right to gather together
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: and try to determine whether or not you did intentionally
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: try to interfere with the path of the ball, which
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: he did. But he was just like, I don't care.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: I'll take one of the back of the skull just
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: for the chance to break this thing up. I mean,
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: who doesn't want that guy on your team?
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well if you don't, then I don't want you
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: as a fellow fan of my team. That's the exact
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: I mean, honestly, if you're like, that's just reckless, that's
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: a reckless play.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: But I don't like it at all, then beat it.
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: I think that's one of the things that made me sad.
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: I mean, I was just sad in general that it
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: was over. But I thought, oh, please, don't let this
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: be the last time we see Josh Naylor in a
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: Mariner's uniform and we'll see.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: I mean he does have the I mean, you do
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: work hard your entire life for this moment to reach
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: free agency, to have success at the major league level,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: and to see what you're worth on the open market.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: And maybe he'll take the highest bidder. And if he does,
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: it might not be the Mariners. They haven't exactly shown
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: the pension for, you know, bidding the highest. But Buck
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: and I were talking about it last night. I would
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: have had a five year, ninety million dollar contract sitting
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: in his lap on the plane ride home if I
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: were the Mariners. Yeah.
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: The more I thought about that, I don't think that'd
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: be enough. I think he wist certainly. I mean you'd
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: have to kind of blow his socks off if you're
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: going to try to get him. It might have to
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: be twenty five million a year. And for what it's worth, there's.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: The market value, says fifteen a year. I was giving
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: him nineteen.
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I wouldn't be surprised if somebody wants
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: to pay him over twenty or eighteen, just whatever it is.
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: I mean, he's gonna test free agency. I have a
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: feeling because I don't see the Mariners coming out and
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: just given something that's above market value, above what they
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: think he's worth or what they're willing to pay. That's
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: maybe that might have been the reason why I woke
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: up even more sad than than I was last night,
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: was because it was to me, it's kind of setting in. Well, see,
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: I hope they do it, Stanton do it. That's a dude.
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: I mean I saw a picture you guys celebrating after
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: winning Game five against Detroit.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: I saw you guys, and I think that they would
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: like to.
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: I just know that they don't end up kind of
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: just pulling out all the stops and making it happen.
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: If you think that's a guy a straw that stirs
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: the drink, and he most certainly is that.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Well a lot of time talking about here in the
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: coming months, But I would say he doesn't strike me
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: as the guy that's taking the highest bid. It strikes
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: me as the guy like I want to go where
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: I want to be and then hopefully they don't offer
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: me an insulting contract, right, and I think that that
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: could happen here in Seattle. So just don't insult him
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: with your offer, and I think that he'll be a
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Marender for the next five years. That's what I think, may.
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: About what you'd pay him. And then add.
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: Exactly exact you we're gonna pay him is probably gonna
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: be insulting.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: So just add five million. Yeah, so take the market
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: I did. I took the market value, and then I
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: gave him three million more per year over the course
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: of five years. And so that's I'm going to dangle
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: that in front of him and see if he bites.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: All right, headline some Greg Bell Neck Sports Radio ninety
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: three point three KJRFM.
• 29:05
  Speaker 8: And now probably the final play of the quarter is
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: a first down and ten at the eleven, Donald under center.
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: He's got Walker behind him, motion three steps to his left.
• 29:14
  Speaker 8: Darnald to throw on first down, looking for the end zone.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Calls get step in.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Jackbow with the catch, and then he slams the football
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: over the upright to celebrate the touchdown. Thirteen nothing Seattle.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: The flags fly for the dunk of the football over
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: the gold post, but Jackson Smith and Jigba does not
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: care at all.
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: His fourth touchdown catch of the year had a fifteen
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: yard penalty for the slam dunk. Second down and goal
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: from the two a minute to play, third quarter offsetbacks,
• 29:55
  Speaker 8: this time Arroyo in motion to turn and to give
• 29:57
  Speaker 8: to Charbonnet stutter step kind of.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Burst hto they in sold for a Seattle touchdown twenty
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: six to twelve.
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: Seattle as Sex sharpaay first over the left side for six.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Good Tuesday morning to you all. Chuck Powle, Buggy, Jacobson,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Ashley Ryan with you and yes, I understand why Ashley
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: played football highlights coming out of the break. Seahawks do
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: win last night by a final score twenty seven to
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: nineteen over the Texans. Moved to five and two before
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: the bye. Jackson, Smith and Jigba another big game, eight catches,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty three yards and a touchdown. We'll
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: talk with Greg Bell here in no matter seconds about
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: what he saw last night on Monday Night Football. The
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Lions also played on Monday Night Football, and one over
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers by a final score of twenty
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: four to nine. Husky's a host Illinois Saturday at twelve
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: thirty part of our frost Brewed Corps light Choose headlines
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: before we get to Greg crack and fall to the
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Flyers first real loss of the year, five to two
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: to the Flyers. Joey Decord did not have it last night.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Team will play again tonight at Washington. They'll drop the
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: pucket four o'clock. Sounders will be starting their playoff round
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Monday evening six o'clock in Minnesota against Minnesota United. Speaking
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: of starting, the NBA season gets started tonight with two
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: games Houston at OKC and Golden State at the Lakers.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Lebron will not play in that game. The games will
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: be on NBC and Peacock and of course Major League Baseball.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: The Mariners lose to the Toronto Blue Jays, the fall
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: one game shy of the World Series, really three innings
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: shy of the World Series, a three run bottom of
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: the seventh home run from all people, George Springer, the
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: difference in the game crushing laws certainly for the city,
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: for the clubhouse. And we of course aren't celebrating today
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: instead wringing our hands a little bit. We will talk
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: a lot about it throughout the course of our day together.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: But right now, let's bring in Greg Bell.
• 32:09
  Speaker 9: Yeah. I made it worse, didn't it. That they were
• 32:10
  Speaker 9: leading and in control of the game and winning their
• 32:14
  Speaker 9: way with pitching and home runs, and it was just
• 32:16
  Speaker 9: lining up there and yeah, I'm sure you're already discussing Bizardo.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Over oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. What was your
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: biggest takeaway from it all last night from what you
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: could see as you were doing your main job.
• 32:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I had most of my attention on the Mariners, honestly,
• 32:37
  Speaker 9: and I missed most of the game right below me.
• 32:41
  Speaker 9: Such a unique situation. That whole thing for the hour
• 32:44
  Speaker 9: and a half was just I've never been in something
• 32:47
  Speaker 9: like that, But at the time, I thought they should
• 32:51
  Speaker 9: have kept Woo and he just struck out Springer the
• 32:54
  Speaker 9: previous at bat. I know there was all kinds of
• 32:57
  Speaker 9: analytics that they rely on about second and third time
• 33:00
  Speaker 9: through orders with pitchers usually second in the relief game,
• 33:04
  Speaker 9: and I think they were too wedded to that, And
• 33:08
  Speaker 9: sometimes you just gotta trust your eyes and your gut
• 33:11
  Speaker 9: and go with the all star starter instead of a
• 33:14
  Speaker 9: I know Bizardo's had a really out of nowhere season
• 33:17
  Speaker 9: and been very good for them, but he really probably
• 33:20
  Speaker 9: is your fifth or sixth best option of everybody on
• 33:23
  Speaker 9: the pitching staff, including starters including Las Castillo and Bryce Miller,
• 33:27
  Speaker 9: who were in play as well. Wouldn't mind seeing Monios
• 33:31
  Speaker 9: in that situation. I mean, that's the top of the
• 33:33
  Speaker 9: order with tu On in the World Series at stake,
• 33:36
  Speaker 9: So what it's the seventh ending, right, And that's not
• 33:40
  Speaker 9: we said it. I said it in the press box
• 33:42
  Speaker 9: to everybody sitting next to me. I said, what are
• 33:46
  Speaker 9: they doing? Not bizarre, not bizardo. Uh yeah, just that
• 33:54
  Speaker 9: was my reaction. But it was, like I said, it
• 33:58
  Speaker 9: was they still overswing, Yeah, who they are, But it
• 34:02
  Speaker 9: was working the two lightning strikes with home runs and pitching,
• 34:06
  Speaker 9: and they were the blueprint to winning was there. And
• 34:10
  Speaker 9: that's really frustrating. And I feel for all the Mariner
• 34:13
  Speaker 9: fans in the Pacific Northwest, and if you can take
• 34:16
  Speaker 9: a step back, this really was a special season. They
• 34:19
  Speaker 9: don't get to the World Series, only two do and
• 34:22
  Speaker 9: they still haven't gone. But I still contend that the
• 34:26
  Speaker 9: Geno Grand Slam will go down in Seattle Sports lower
• 34:29
  Speaker 9: history and be the memory of this postseason run that
• 34:32
  Speaker 9: they were on. And they still did something no manner
• 34:34
  Speaker 9: team's done, and around here that's that's something.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, it was an unfortunate way for it
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: to end, but it is what it is. I mean,
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: it was lucky.
• 34:46
  Speaker 9: What would you have done?
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: In that situation, would I would have left wo Win
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: to pitch to Springer.
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's we've talked about it already, but the
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: idea of if hitters get ready to walk up to
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: the dish and he sees them, manager come out and
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: take out a guy that made me look silly bat before,
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: I'm probably going I don't care who you bring in,
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: but I'm happy that you're not leaving him in. And so,
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: I mean, the unfortunate part, that's the part that sucks
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: the most is the wondering what if And I mean,
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: in an alternate universe, Bizarreta comes in there and punches
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: out Springer, and you know, and however, it unfolds a
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: different way and we're talking about something different.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: But it didn't.
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: They didn't execute, and the Toronto Blue Jays did over
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: the course of seven games.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: More so Springer of all people, Yeah, exactly.
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: I mean, just.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Creg Bell is with us, our Seahawks insider. He also
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: doubled throughout the postseason, following the Mariners through the playoffs
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: as well for the News Tribune, and so we have
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: been talking with him Mariners Baseball just about every segment,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: as well as Seahawks football here for the last couple
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: of weeks. But we did have a victory last night
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: on the grid iron. Last night Loomanfield awking for the
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Seahawks win over the Houston Texans, Jackson Smith and Jig
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: but just incredible again. Eight catches, one hundred and twenty
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: three yards a touchdown. He is one hundred and ninety
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: yards above Jamar Chase for first place in receiving yards
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: in the National Football League. I mean, are we talking
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: about having the best receiver in the NFL? Is that
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: how special this guy is turning out to.
• 36:22
  Speaker 9: Beat At the moment, Yeah, I mean you can probably
• 36:26
  Speaker 9: argue Justin Jefferson Jamar Chase over the Aggrey of the
• 36:29
  Speaker 9: longer haul and proven over time. But over the seven
• 36:32
  Speaker 9: games of this season, yes, we are home to the
• 36:35
  Speaker 9: best NFL's best receiver. He's getting open no matter what.
• 36:40
  Speaker 9: Last night, Houston had cloud coverage of the safety over
• 36:43
  Speaker 9: the top and the core underneath. Sometimes they just flat
• 36:46
  Speaker 9: out doubled him. He beats him inside, he beats him outside,
• 36:50
  Speaker 9: He beats him on fourth and one, he beats him
• 36:52
  Speaker 9: on first and ten, and Darnold realizes it and he
• 36:56
  Speaker 9: looks for him all the time. I mean sudden change
• 36:59
  Speaker 9: play deep down the field shot to Smith and Jigba
• 37:02
  Speaker 9: fourth and one, a roll out the tight end in
• 37:05
  Speaker 9: the flat. He doesn't throw to Barner, he throws ten
• 37:08
  Speaker 9: fifteen yards behind him in the same direction. On a
• 37:12
  Speaker 9: boot leg to the left, he goes for the deeper
• 37:14
  Speaker 9: option of eighteen yards. I asked Donald after the game
• 37:17
  Speaker 9: specifically about that play in the fourth quarter, because almost
• 37:20
  Speaker 9: every NFL quarterback will just dump it into the flat
• 37:23
  Speaker 9: for a safe couple of yard gain on fourth and short,
• 37:28
  Speaker 9: and Donald told me he surmised as he looked at
• 37:31
  Speaker 9: Barner that he thought the linebacker was going to tackle
• 37:33
  Speaker 9: him immediately upon the catch, and in Donald's destination, he
• 37:37
  Speaker 9: wasn't sure that it would have been to the line
• 37:39
  Speaker 9: the game for the first down. It was that close
• 37:41
  Speaker 9: to him, So he went for the surer thing, and
• 37:44
  Speaker 9: that's how he said, that's my progression, but that's how
• 37:48
  Speaker 9: good Smith and Jigba is. The surer thing is a
• 37:50
  Speaker 9: twenty yard pass instead of a two yard pass. That's
• 37:54
  Speaker 9: how good Smith and Jigbait has been. And my favorite
• 37:58
  Speaker 9: moment once middle the second quarter turned my attention to
• 38:01
  Speaker 9: the game. I'm actually being paid to cover was when
• 38:06
  Speaker 9: Smith and Jigger got stiff armed by Stingley after Stingley
• 38:09
  Speaker 9: intercepted the pass in the fourth quarter and popped his
• 38:12
  Speaker 9: helmet off, but Smith and Jig was six foot two
• 38:15
  Speaker 9: hundred pounds, kept playing through the play, pushed Stingley out
• 38:18
  Speaker 9: of bounds without his helmet on. And then Hatless was
• 38:21
  Speaker 9: on the Texans bench with forty five Texans around him
• 38:26
  Speaker 9: and nobody else. There was no Sea Yorks anywhere near,
• 38:30
  Speaker 9: and the Texans are going to take some shots there,
• 38:33
  Speaker 9: and one of them did. A linebacker pushes him into
• 38:37
  Speaker 9: the really hard too, from the middle of the the
• 38:39
  Speaker 9: middle of the sideline into the bench and literally onto
• 38:42
  Speaker 9: the Texans bench. And he was just sitting there without
• 38:45
  Speaker 9: his helmet on. It was like a junkyard dog was
• 38:49
  Speaker 9: cornered by every other junkyard dog in the city and
• 38:53
  Speaker 9: he was up against the fence. He's just sitting there
• 38:55
  Speaker 9: on the bench without a helmet on, with about forty
• 38:57
  Speaker 9: Texans surrounding him. He just sat there, smarting, like he
• 39:01
  Speaker 9: was in a park on Sunday, worrying, and didn't do anything,
• 39:05
  Speaker 9: didn't react, did nothing, just sat there. And then I
• 39:09
  Speaker 9: thought Nathan Jones, the field judge, the UNFL official came
• 39:12
  Speaker 9: over and did great preventive officiating. You know if he
• 39:15
  Speaker 9: saw it, he just hugged him, human shielded him. Yeah,
• 39:19
  Speaker 9: and leaned his body into the bench over at Smith
• 39:21
  Speaker 9: and Jigba so that the players couldn't get to him,
• 39:24
  Speaker 9: and then cool their heads fatailed that after they a.
• 39:27
  Speaker 9: MacDonald said that he thought Smith and Jigba was amazingly
• 39:30
  Speaker 9: poised in that situation that a lot of players would
• 39:33
  Speaker 9: snapped back and that had been a big fricus and
• 39:36
  Speaker 9: he would have been outnumbered and potentially injured. He said
• 39:38
  Speaker 9: it was a scary had scene to see his star
• 39:41
  Speaker 9: receiver without a helmet on the other sideline and Smith
• 39:44
  Speaker 9: and Jigger just calmly something say yeah, I'm cool, and
• 39:46
  Speaker 9: just he laughed after the game and say.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah I can face that. That's no problem.
• 39:50
  Speaker 9: But he did do right and not reacting there and
• 39:52
  Speaker 9: diffused the whole thing.
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Greg, guy, I mean that we've talked and us
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: talked a lot about the run game and then the
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: knee to establish it, they rushed for what one hundred
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: and eighteen yards and so was it a highly effective
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: run game that then helped set up the past game
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: when Sam Donald did decide to look at Jackson Smith
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: and Jigbuck.
• 40:13
  Speaker 9: No, I don't think so, Bucky. I thought it was
• 40:15
  Speaker 9: another game where the numbers belive what actually happened and
• 40:19
  Speaker 9: what it felt like the game went in running the ball,
• 40:22
  Speaker 9: and after the game, McDonald said as much. He said,
• 40:25
  Speaker 9: we're still searching. In the run game, their longest most
• 40:29
  Speaker 9: effective run was called back by a holding penalty on
• 40:32
  Speaker 9: Charles Cross. I believe it was in the second half.
• 40:35
  Speaker 9: They couldn't wouldn't at times get Kenneth Walker going. I
• 40:39
  Speaker 9: know they're on a plan set out a thousand times.
• 40:41
  Speaker 9: I mentioned how Walker as a foot issue to trying
• 40:43
  Speaker 9: to maintain him and play all seventeen games. But how
• 40:47
  Speaker 9: they're doing it with Charbona and Walker. It's weird how
• 40:52
  Speaker 9: they'll just go Casper mode with Kenneth Walker in the
• 40:55
  Speaker 9: middle of drives that he seems to be effective on
• 40:58
  Speaker 9: a couple of good runs and he's out and you're like,
• 41:00
  Speaker 9: wait a minute, a third and short, why is not
• 41:02
  Speaker 9: Walker in there? And Charboney runs into a wall of everybody,
• 41:06
  Speaker 9: even some Charvonay's first touchdown, he got stacked up with
• 41:10
  Speaker 9: the four yard line and he got pushed across the
• 41:13
  Speaker 9: goal line by about six of his teammates for a touchdown,
• 41:17
  Speaker 9: once from the four to the zero to the goal
• 41:20
  Speaker 9: line for a touchdown. McDonald's keeps saying, and Kobiac keeps
• 41:26
  Speaker 9: saying to us that, you know, Charbone just doesn't have
• 41:28
  Speaker 9: running lines to run to, which is why his yards
• 41:31
  Speaker 9: per carry have been over the season so much below Walker's.
• 41:35
  Speaker 9: And it seems to be true every time, almost every
• 41:38
  Speaker 9: time he gets the ball, he's got nothing. He's got
• 41:40
  Speaker 9: three or four guys in his face. The difference is Walker,
• 41:43
  Speaker 9: when he gets that will at least get you some
• 41:46
  Speaker 9: yards or back to the line of scrimmays miraculously sometimes
• 41:49
  Speaker 9: because of elusiveness, and Charbonney doesn't seem to have that.
• 41:53
  Speaker 9: I know why they're doing it, but if it were me,
• 41:55
  Speaker 9: I would use Walker more consistently through drives, through red
• 41:59
  Speaker 9: zones and even on some downplays than they've been using him.
• 42:02
  Speaker 9: But they have a longer plan that they're sticking with.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Greg Bell is with us, our Seahawks insider from the
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: News Tribune. You can follo him at g bel Seattle
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: on X. What does it say about a Mike McDonald
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: team to be five and two going into the break
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: beat on Monday Night football A pretty good I mean
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: a great defensive team in Houston by eight points, even
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: though you lost the turnover battle minus three.
• 42:23
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that was They are still prone, including Sam Donald
• 42:27
  Speaker 9: as as good as he's been to not taking care
• 42:30
  Speaker 9: of the football as much as I mean, he can't
• 42:32
  Speaker 9: lose the ball in the end zone when you're that
• 42:35
  Speaker 9: safety or excuse me, a touchdown. It being a touchdown
• 42:37
  Speaker 9: because he dropped the ball would have been a safety
• 42:39
  Speaker 9: on the sack and the end zone. In the second half,
• 42:42
  Speaker 9: that was on Donald. He had a pocket. Charles Cross
• 42:47
  Speaker 9: was blocking Will Anderson's right below us in the press box,
• 42:51
  Speaker 9: and Cross was winning the one on on. He was
• 42:54
  Speaker 9: stonewalling Anderson, and Donald had a receiver out in the flat.
• 43:00
  Speaker 9: It was a secondary read, it wasn't a primary. But
• 43:03
  Speaker 9: in that situation and in your own end zone, get
• 43:07
  Speaker 9: rid of the ball. And Donald said as much afterwards,
• 43:10
  Speaker 9: but insteaden it wasn't as Donald just didn't get rid
• 43:13
  Speaker 9: of the ball. He didn't. He ran outside the pocket,
• 43:17
  Speaker 9: outside of where Anderson was still a wall by Cross,
• 43:21
  Speaker 9: and Anderson saw it, and Cross didn't realize it, and
• 43:23
  Speaker 9: then Anderson just disengaged from Cross and ran outside away
• 43:27
  Speaker 9: from Cross blocking him, and Donald ran right into the sack.
• 43:30
  Speaker 9: If Donald had stayed inside of Cross where Cross was
• 43:33
  Speaker 9: winning the battle, there is no sack there. So Donald
• 43:37
  Speaker 9: ran into that sack. And you can't run into the
• 43:40
  Speaker 9: sack in your own end zone, especially then you can't
• 43:42
  Speaker 9: lose the ball. And so that's another example of in
• 43:47
  Speaker 9: a situation where the ball is premium around either goal line,
• 43:50
  Speaker 9: you can't lose it. And that's twice now in this season.
• 43:53
  Speaker 9: Of course, the forty nine Ers game when Poster knocked
• 43:57
  Speaker 9: the right tackle Abe Lucas into Sam Dornan with thirty
• 44:00
  Speaker 9: seconds left the game and Darnald lose the ball. You
• 44:03
  Speaker 9: just can't do that. You're gonna throw interceptions when you throw,
• 44:06
  Speaker 9: as much as teams do in the NFL, but you
• 44:08
  Speaker 9: just can't lose the ball in your own end zone.
• 44:09
  Speaker 9: And they've got to be concerned about that, the quarterback
• 44:12
  Speaker 9: losing the ball in those situations around the goal line.
• 44:16
  Speaker 9: But you're right, that's telling it to me. The game,
• 44:19
  Speaker 9: the story of the game was the defense. To me,
• 44:21
  Speaker 9: that was a twenty seven to twelve or twenty seven
• 44:25
  Speaker 9: to even sixth game. They should have enough twenty one
• 44:27
  Speaker 9: three at halftime, and they gave away two six point
• 44:31
  Speaker 9: swings at the end of the first half with the
• 44:32
  Speaker 9: block field goal and then the turnover and the silly
• 44:35
  Speaker 9: Cooper cup end a round pass that I asked McDonald,
• 44:38
  Speaker 9: he said, yeah, we're gonna put that in the freezer.
• 44:41
  Speaker 9: Couple was really upset about that playoff game. He wanted
• 44:43
  Speaker 9: nothing to do with talk about that. He's usually really
• 44:45
  Speaker 9: affable and we'll talk about anything. He said, I want
• 44:47
  Speaker 9: to talk about that terrible play by me. I don't
• 44:49
  Speaker 9: want talk about them. He's already said enough. But yeah,
• 44:53
  Speaker 9: they handed him six points to get back in the game.
• 44:56
  Speaker 9: At halftime, it was fourteen to six because of these
• 44:58
  Speaker 9: handed them two field goals at the end of the
• 45:01
  Speaker 9: They were sloppy, but their defense to me dominate the game.
• 45:05
  Speaker 9: They had a meeting night before they always have a
• 45:07
  Speaker 9: team meeting, and the defense got together and said, we
• 45:10
  Speaker 9: want to play to our standard, and our standard is
• 45:12
  Speaker 9: to be the best defense in the NFL. Er As
• 45:15
  Speaker 9: Jones said after the game, that was their mantra. That's
• 45:17
  Speaker 9: what they've set as a goal since the first day
• 45:19
  Speaker 9: of OTAs and the Tampa Bay game has stung them.
• 45:23
  Speaker 9: Since the Tampa Bay game, they have dominated two foes
• 45:27
  Speaker 9: and basically given up twelve points in each game except
• 45:29
  Speaker 9: for the garbage time touchdown to the end last night,
• 45:32
  Speaker 9: so the reveddicated themselves to being better. They would not
• 45:36
  Speaker 9: let the Texans in the end zone for most of
• 45:39
  Speaker 9: that game until two minutes left. They got two goal
• 45:42
  Speaker 9: on stands and tyle Cotta leaping in the end zone
• 45:44
  Speaker 9: to block down a pass, the best play as a Seahawk,
• 45:48
  Speaker 9: the third down stop by Bayern Murphy, the fourth down stop,
• 45:50
  Speaker 9: the fourth and short by DeMarcus Lawrence, and successive plays.
• 45:55
  Speaker 9: They were stingy. That wasn't the best offense in the NFL,
• 45:57
  Speaker 9: but they played last night. But they held another opponent
• 46:00
  Speaker 9: under sixty yards rushing second in the league and rush defense.
• 46:03
  Speaker 9: And that's allowing our pass rush to get coin.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Five turnovers, two hundred yards worth of penalties, four for
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: twenty nine on third down. Sounds like a good game
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: to have missed. You know, if I was gonna miss
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: a Seahawks game, maybe that's the one I should have missed.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: That's that sounds like an ugly night and you're just
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: happy to get the w all right, Greg, Well, we'll
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: have all week to discuss this now, we'll do a
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: roundtable on Thursday. We'll bring that back this week and
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: everything else. So we'll let you go for now. But
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: thank you, sir, great stuff, as always appreciate it.
• 46:35
  Speaker 9: Sorry at the Pacific Northwest. That was a fun marin
• 46:37
  Speaker 9: a riot and they always do it and suddenly don't.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, all right, Greg Bell our Seahawks inside
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: of joining us right here on Chucking Buck, you can
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: follow at GBL Seattle and of course follow his coverage
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: at Thenewstribune dot com. Factor Fiction coming up at seven
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: thirty five plus cal Rally. You got to hear the
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: audio from him last night after the game Sports Radio
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: ninety three point three K A R F M. Well,
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: throughout this Major League Baseball postseason, we have had the
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: joy of getting to know and having analyze our Mariners
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: for US former Mariner Ryan Healey, He's joined the conversation
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: almost I think, after every single game so far in
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: this postseason, and so we talked to him about the
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: final game of the year, which is said to say, good.
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: Morning, Ryan, good morning man. How are we doing today?
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: I'm doing all right. I want to lead you in
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: any direction, like your big takeaway. As you start thinking
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: about the Mariners this morning, what pops into your mind?
• 47:43
  Speaker 10: What a season, what a series and such fight, so
• 47:49
  Speaker 10: many things that you could analyze, kind of pitch by
• 47:52
  Speaker 10: pitch by any player by player. For me, though, trying
• 47:57
  Speaker 10: to zoom out a little bit and look at just
• 47:58
  Speaker 10: the body of work with this whole seas and I
• 48:01
  Speaker 10: mean that that game was a pitch away. Yeah, I
• 48:05
  Speaker 10: mean give us the idea that he freeze up, got
• 48:10
  Speaker 10: a freeze up?
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he can really, boy, he can really stand still.
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: Oh there he's back, he's moving. Hey, it's too early
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: for your internet again.
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: I told you it's nine a m.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:23
  Speaker 10: So what I was saying is that the body of work,
• 48:25
  Speaker 10: though of just this season and also the series, their
• 48:27
  Speaker 10: ability to bounce back from adversity. Game seven, they responded
• 48:31
  Speaker 10: really early, scoring the run there the nailor singled RBI
• 48:34
  Speaker 10: after the double from Julio. I saw them bounce back
• 48:37
  Speaker 10: and really controlled that game. Disappointing how it ended, but
• 48:40
  Speaker 10: really proud of how this team conducted themselves.
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think that you know, there's a
• 48:45
  Speaker 6: lot of there's a lot of pain in this fan base.
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: Based on the way things have gone, and unfortunately the
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: last night kind of adds to it a little bit.
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: But I'd love you to give your perspective on how
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: you win and you lose as a team, because there's
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: a lot of blame gonna be thrown around, right, and
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: questions and criticisms are valid. And yet the idea of
• 49:07
  Speaker 6: when you're in that locker room, when you're in that clubhouse,
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: when you're on that field and the manager's like, all right,
• 49:12
  Speaker 6: let's go bizarro, get us out of this, or let's
• 49:14
  Speaker 6: do this to whomever.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Hey, Revos, you're in the game.
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: We thanks for that double you hit, and you've grinded
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: out some AB's whatever the case may be, how do
• 49:22
  Speaker 6: you feel when you come up on the losing end
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: of things and there's questions and yet as a team,
• 49:28
  Speaker 6: you're gonna win some and you're gonna lose some, but
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: you're always gonna.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: Do it as a squad.
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: It's a great question, Bucky. I said this early on.
• 49:36
  Speaker 10: I believe in the Alds series about how I love
• 49:39
  Speaker 10: watching betteran managers conduct themselves in moments of defeat because
• 49:43
  Speaker 10: for me, you can really see what type of leader
• 49:45
  Speaker 10: you have there and my show prep this morning was
• 49:47
  Speaker 10: watching Dan Wilson interviews. I wanted to see the questions
• 49:50
  Speaker 10: he was getting asked how he was able to respond
• 49:53
  Speaker 10: to those questions because I knew what they were gonna
• 49:55
  Speaker 10: be about. It's gonna be about the pitching decision late
• 49:56
  Speaker 10: in the game, the ones swing to change the game,
• 49:59
  Speaker 10: and I thought that the way he navigated the answer
• 50:01
  Speaker 10: was exactly how he navigated the playoffs.
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: He chose the players that got him there, the guys
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: that he relied on. There was no panic.
• 50:08
  Speaker 10: There was no oh, this guy had a tough inning,
• 50:11
  Speaker 10: like yesterday, I got to go try someone else now
• 50:13
  Speaker 10: like there was no panic decisions made.
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: It was complete conviction in his players, and whether.
• 50:19
  Speaker 10: They succeeded or failed, he had the confidence in them
• 50:22
  Speaker 10: to come through in that spot because they've done it
• 50:25
  Speaker 10: all season long. And there was so many moments throughout
• 50:27
  Speaker 10: that Game seven last night when I was watching it,
• 50:29
  Speaker 10: when man, this storyline is perfect for the Mariners back
• 50:32
  Speaker 10: up against the wall once again this season. They're gonna
• 50:34
  Speaker 10: come through for us, and for the first time all
• 50:36
  Speaker 10: season long, they didn't, And unfortunately the spot was in
• 50:39
  Speaker 10: the Game seven and alcs and that hurts a lot.
• 50:42
  Speaker 10: But this fan base has been on this journey for
• 50:44
  Speaker 10: a long time with this team, and you saw the
• 50:46
  Speaker 10: emotion on the player's face.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: They care.
• 50:47
  Speaker 10: Man, then if there's never a question if they do
• 50:50
  Speaker 10: or don't. But you saw they got to taste of
• 50:52
  Speaker 10: it and they wanted it, and that those emotions are
• 50:54
  Speaker 10: going to feel them even further to get past this
• 50:55
  Speaker 10: hurdle next year.
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: Well, I can appreciate your appreciation for how Dan Wilson
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: handled it in the post game. But that said, I
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: know you were sitting there armchair managing just like all
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: the rest of us. Did he make the right move?
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: How would you have?
• 51:11
  Speaker 10: What I don't like about this question, Chuckie, and I
• 51:15
  Speaker 10: understand it has to be asked, is that the end
• 51:18
  Speaker 10: result is already determined, so now it's so much easier
• 51:20
  Speaker 10: of an opinion. But I'll be honest with you because
• 51:23
  Speaker 10: that's my job as an analyst. Is when I saw
• 51:25
  Speaker 10: Bizard to win there, I was really hoping to see
• 51:27
  Speaker 10: Munyos in that spot. Do I understand why he made
• 51:30
  Speaker 10: the spot after or the decision after seeing the postgame interview? Yes,
• 51:33
  Speaker 10: I do, and I appreciate it. You're the manager, You've
• 51:36
  Speaker 10: earned the right to make those decisions, but as a
• 51:38
  Speaker 10: fan and someone that really want to see the scene succeed,
• 51:42
  Speaker 10: I thought that was an opportunity to bring Munyas in
• 51:44
  Speaker 10: early and stretch him out, and it didn't happen. But
• 51:48
  Speaker 10: we don't know if the result would have been different
• 51:49
  Speaker 10: even if Munyos was there.
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm with you, Okay, is there an idea that
• 51:54
  Speaker 6: if you were if you had that hat on? And
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: again I agree that it feels superficial to say the
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: the conversation after knowing the outcome, and yet in the
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: midst of it, we were all having that same thing
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: of man, should Munnos being there, should Brash be in there?
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: Or should Woo?
• 52:09
  Speaker 6: Considering how bad he made Springer look and he hit
• 52:12
  Speaker 6: him in the knee and then he diced him up
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: on three straight pitches the previous time, I'm thinking that
• 52:18
  Speaker 6: that George Springer is taking a siaryleaf when he's seeing
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: anybody else come in from the bullpen. Considering how the
• 52:24
  Speaker 6: previous at Batwin is there a part of you there
• 52:26
  Speaker 6: was like, dude, he can pitch out of this jam.
• 52:28
  Speaker 6: You're bringing in a guy that's been doing good for
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: us all season long, and Bizardo and he's used to,
• 52:34
  Speaker 6: you know, pitch him with guys on base. But that's
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: Brian Wu. That's an all star. That's maybe been our
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: most solid dude on the bump all year long. There's
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: no maybe about it.
• 52:43
  Speaker 10: Brian Wu's been the best picture on this Maror's pitching
• 52:45
  Speaker 10: staff in he does twenty five, no question. He just
• 52:47
  Speaker 10: sat thought the way that he came back and the injury,
• 52:49
  Speaker 10: and he is a saint. He came out of the
• 52:51
  Speaker 10: bullpens twice for us, and he filled the zone up.
• 52:54
  Speaker 10: It was coming out of his hand really clean. There
• 52:56
  Speaker 10: was a lot of conversation in the Dodgers Brewer series,
• 52:59
  Speaker 10: especially when Blake Snell went eight innings in Game one
• 53:02
  Speaker 10: and then Yamamoda went nine innings in Game two, And
• 53:04
  Speaker 10: there's a psychological aspect as a hit or to that
• 53:07
  Speaker 10: when a starting pitcher is just in a groove and
• 53:09
  Speaker 10: you're able to get them out of the game. I
• 53:11
  Speaker 10: don't care if eraald As Chapman is coming in or
• 53:14
  Speaker 10: if the best pitch in the world is coming in,
• 53:16
  Speaker 10: Like it's just not the guy that had my number today.
• 53:19
  Speaker 10: I can at least compete against him. So there is
• 53:21
  Speaker 10: some of that psychological that I'm sure that Springer had of, Like, man,
• 53:24
  Speaker 10: I'm kind of happy Wuo isn't in there, because that
• 53:26
  Speaker 10: sinker he's gonna throw under my hands again because his
• 53:28
  Speaker 10: game plan is he's got to push me off the plate,
• 53:30
  Speaker 10: and last time he did that, he threw ninety six
• 53:33
  Speaker 10: or ninety seven off my right knee cap and that's
• 53:34
  Speaker 10: still hurts. So yeah, maybe there's some psychological with that,
• 53:38
  Speaker 10: But we have to also trust the medical staff and
• 53:41
  Speaker 10: the coaching staff was analyzing how Wu was doing, and
• 53:44
  Speaker 10: you know, maybe they didn't want to push him in
• 53:46
  Speaker 10: that moment because the future of Brian Wu was bigger
• 53:49
  Speaker 10: than that one pitch that won a bat Really hard
• 53:52
  Speaker 10: to digest the thought of that, though, at this point
• 53:54
  Speaker 10: in time, I.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: Gotta get your thoughts on this. It ended up not
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: being that impactful of a play in the game, but
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: Bucky loved it. Every former player that I've heard talk
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: about this is just like going crazy over this moment,
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: Josh Naylor deciding not to slide and taking one to
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: the noggin. Well, as a former player, what did you
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: think of that play from him? I was actually in
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: the batting cage.
• 54:21
  Speaker 10: I was there last night with a bunch of hitters,
• 54:23
  Speaker 10: and one of my my good buddies was actually there
• 54:25
  Speaker 10: with us, just kind of hanging out, dropping some knowledge
• 54:28
  Speaker 10: in the guys, and he looked at me and goes,
• 54:30
  Speaker 10: that's the most Josh Naylor play I've ever seen in.
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: My entire life, and I love it. He kind of
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: like duffs his head.
• 54:35
  Speaker 10: But then he jumps up into the ball, and I'm like,
• 54:37
  Speaker 10: the worst worst case in aarios. He used to kind
• 54:39
  Speaker 10: of kill the momentum. You stop the game for a
• 54:41
  Speaker 10: little bit. Did everyone's chance to breathe while they review it?
• 54:43
  Speaker 10: But man, what just what an old school baseball player
• 54:47
  Speaker 10: that really had people chuckling and confused of what what's
• 54:49
  Speaker 10: the results of this?
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he just decided. I mean they always tell us
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: if he played me on Little League that just throw
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: it right at his head. He'll get down. And Naylor's like,
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get down. Oh, there's no rule that
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: I have to slide. They still called him for interference,
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: which I think was the right thing to do, but yes,
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: for him to just say in that moment, I'll take
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: one to the head. I don't care. See if I
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: can get a play here and he was smart enough
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: to turn his back to the ball so that it
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: didn't get him in the face. Even that, even Naylor's
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: intelligence was on display in that moment.
• 55:22
  Speaker 10: It would have at a next level if he was like, man,
• 55:24
  Speaker 10: I could really use some new veneers this offseason. So
• 55:26
  Speaker 10: I'm actually not gonna turn my head. I'm like, it's
• 55:29
  Speaker 10: baseball because I need some new show chips.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: Chips. And how disappointing was it just you know, as
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: you're rooting there for the Mariners you got cal Raley
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: on deck. I just kept thinking the same the whole time,
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: like he's gonna get in it bat it's the era
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: of cow We're gonna pull this thing off and he's
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: gonna put on the cape one more time. How disappointing
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: was it for you that he never got into the
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: batter's box.
• 55:54
  Speaker 10: As a baseball fan, you want to see that opportunity happen.
• 55:56
  Speaker 10: And I felt like there was there were pitches that
• 55:59
  Speaker 10: were non compared it from Hoffman there to to Rodriguez Julio.
• 56:02
  Speaker 10: There obviously a really tight slider along the way they
• 56:05
  Speaker 10: got Julio to expand, and you know that was a
• 56:08
  Speaker 10: tough one, just for the way that this season is
• 56:11
  Speaker 10: kind of unfolded in the role that Colis played for
• 56:14
  Speaker 10: this team in twenty twenty five. I would have loved
• 56:16
  Speaker 10: to have seen it, even if Cal strikes out the
• 56:18
  Speaker 10: end of the season, like I just would have loved
• 56:19
  Speaker 10: to have seen him in that in that moment with
• 56:21
  Speaker 10: the opportunity to tie the game or put us ahead.
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: I think that Mariners fans deserved that. It was disappointing
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: out to see it.
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: Even if he didn't come through, it just felt like
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: the season should be in his hands at a good point. Yeah, well, man,
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: you've been awesome. Thank you very much. Don't go far.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: I'm sure we're gonna be bugging the hell out of
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: you here in the off season. So we really appreciate it.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: And I think you got a future in this business
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: if you do intend to pursue it, and and of
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: course we'll be bugging you whenever we get the opportunity.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: So thank you very much. It's been outstanding to.
• 56:56
  Speaker 10: You, Chuck, to you, Bucky, to you, actually, to the
• 56:58
  Speaker 10: Mariners fans out there that allow me the opportunity to
• 57:01
  Speaker 10: come on here, the producers at KJR, thank you so
• 57:03
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• 57:05
  Speaker 10: It's been a lot of fun and the chance to
• 57:08
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• 57:10
  Speaker 10: real blessing. So thank you guys very much. All Right,
• 57:12
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• 57:14
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• 57:17
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• 57:21
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• 57:23
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• 58:22
  Speaker 4: Here's Chucking buck.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: Bright nine o'clock hour here on this Tuesday, we spent
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: three hours, you know, talking about the Mariners season coming
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: to a close. We reserve our last hour to talk
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: about Monday Night football. Seahawks went over the Houston Texans
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: twenty seven to nineteen, So we'll spend our final hour
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: this Tuesday with our favorite football analysts Hugh Mellon ur
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: QB one and also coach Mike Holmgren as well. Good morning, gentlemen,
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: Good morning, Good morning, Chuckin, Good morning. I didn't, you know,
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: with the baseball game on, I didn't spend a lot
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: of time watching this football game, So you bet my
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: eyes on this one, coach. One hundred and ninety eight
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: penalty yards, four turnovers by the Seahawks, and still they
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: managed to win by eight points despite going two for
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: fourteen on third down. Did I pick a good game
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: to miss if I was going to miss any I
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: think he did.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: I think he really did. I every once in a while,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: I'd switch on the Mariner game too. I kind of
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: going back and forth. And you know Kathy, you know,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: for years she couldn't stay in the stadium and watch
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: us play because she took the game so seriously and
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: it hurt when we lost so and she couldn't watch
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: the Mariners. So I watched more of the football game
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: probably than you did. But I was going back and forth. Yeah,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: the Texans weren't very impressive to me.
• 59:47
  Speaker 9: Here.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: What stood out to you about that result last night?
• 59:50
  Speaker 11: Well, I think going into the game, just knowing how
• 59:54
  Speaker 11: Houston was defensively number one in the NFL fewest points allowed,
• 59:57
  Speaker 11: less than a touchdown, more than a touchdown, less than
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 11: the Seahawks at just twelve points per game allowed, they
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 11: were top five and everything, so you kind of figured
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 11: that it was gonna be a little bit clunky and
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 11: inconsistent for the Seahawks offense. But I think that if
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 11: you look at what Seattle did defensively, if your opponent,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 11: they're running backs, have fifteen carries for thirty one yards,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 11: and you hold the opponent quarterback under a sixty passer rating,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 11: that's going to be a formula to win a game,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 11: even when you play ugly offensively.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 6: All right, well, so our defense played well and even
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 6: though the stats don't necessarily jump off the page, Hugh
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 6: and coach, you can answer this too. I mean it
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 6: looked Are you saying that our offense looked good or
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 6: just looked good against a good defense?
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 11: You our offense, our offense, I think just looked inconsistent
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 11: against a very good defense. I think that they had
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 11: some of their best plays in the first quarter. Uh,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 11: you know that play action, fake the stretch and get
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 11: and get Elijah Royal to stutter and then run up
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 11: the sideline they hit that you had to play with
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 11: with Cooper Cup he aligns in the left slot on
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 11: a play action. He kind of runs a shallow coss
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 11: from left to right, acting like he wants to block,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 11: and then he emerges all the way to the other
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 11: side and then runs a go route up the right
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 11: sideline even though he had started on the left. I
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 11: think there were some plays like that and others Mike,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 11: where you know you know this, coach, that you have
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 11: some plays you get, Man, I really love this. I
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 11: think this is gonna work. You know, it looks good
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 11: in practice, and then you have the impulse to to
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 11: get it on the script early or to call it early.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: They work and what have you.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 11: And and then you know, not that you shoot your wade,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 11: but but maybe some of your best big plays you've
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 11: already used by the end of the first quarter. That
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 11: kind of how is how it played out to some
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 11: degree last night.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that, you know, I was what kept
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: going through my mind is that without enjigma, what what
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: are we doing here? You know, because it was you know,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: he was he was superb, he was really good. And
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: to be good like he is, you know, Sam has
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: to be throwing it on time and and and his
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: touchdown passed to him and he got hit right in
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: the face after after he threw the ball. Those things
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: got them the win. And you know, she was right.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: The defensive guys, they they they got the win for
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: the team last night. And they're really good on defense,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: and they're really good up front, and they have a
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: great middle linebacker right now. So that I think that's
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: going to be the formula. I think that's going to
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: be the formula for the rest of the season.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: And I know you you've got some thoughts on this,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: but let let me divert this to coach, first, how
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: do you reconcile that you have a red hot wide
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: receiver that apparently can't get covered, because you know, the
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: defenses are trying to stop a guy that has two
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: hundred more of your receiving yards than the second place
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: guy in the National Football League. With trying to balance
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: out this offense, coach going forward, because I'm pretty sure
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: you can't be just a one man attack.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think they are. I think there it's
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: kind of falling into place. But I blame the opposing
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: defense as good as Houston is on defense, and they're
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: secondary strong that they couldn't answer. They did not have
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: an answer for that. And that's what amazes me about
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: this young man. I mean, he's a really good receiver.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think they call plays necessarily to get him
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: the ball, but their structure of their routes and so
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: on frees him up. There are certain things on play
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: action pass and then the crossers and think on the
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: deep cross that's for him, but he generally speaking, he
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: doesn't drop the ball. You know, he's very quick, He's
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: understands zone and man reads in there, so he gets open.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: He has more room than a lot of receivers. So
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: you know, I can't say enough about him.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he even makes a fifteen yard penalty look cool.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 11: Well he's he's as we've talked about. I think his frame,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 11: you know, at six', one a little over two hundred,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 11: pounds he's a mid size guy with relatively short, legs
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 11: which which kind of prevents him from having elite long,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 11: speed but it does allow him to have extreme. Quickness
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 11: HIS iq is off the, chain his, HANDS i mean
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 11: you you can't not distract. HIM i, mean he's gonna
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 11: land every plane when the ball's near. Him he tracks
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 11: the ball like an. Outfielder so there's so. Much but,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 11: look they targeted him fourteen times last, night and the
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 11: other starting, Receiver Cooper cup was targeted.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: ONCE i just don't.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 11: THINK i just don't THINK i, would you, know discussed
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 11: this at length and the, postcame, well not at, length
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 11: but we touched on this last night That, MIKE i
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 11: JUST i don't think that the offense is going to
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 11: reach its.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: Potential you, know the next closest.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 11: Guy was A royo with five, targets So injigba had
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 11: almost three times as. Much so so if we're if
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 11: we're talking about ways that we want to maximize the
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 11: potential of this. OFFENSE i don't think it's with this
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 11: balance distributing the ball in the passing.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: Game, YEAH i, THINK i, think AND i think you
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: have a very good point there because they need more.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: Balance but you are going to throw two's. OPEN i
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: mean that's what you're taught to, do and he is
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: very very capable of getting.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 6: Open, yeah they can't cover, him might as well throw
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 6: it to. Him BUT i hear what you're saying. Too
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 6: you got to you find some other options so that
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 6: it's not so easy to game plan. ANYWAYS i, mean
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 6: typically if you lose the turnover battle four to, one
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 6: it doesn't usually work out in your. Favor that's a
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 6: pretty big, one pretty big no. No and So i'm, wondering,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 6: coach how did you like The cooper cup passer up fourteen?
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 6: Zip and they're, like, hey let's try some trick.
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  Speaker 3: Play do you like?
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  Speaker 7: That?
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  Speaker 1: NO i, didn't BUT i wasn't a big trick play.
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  Speaker 1: Person but but you, know you, know he called, it
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  Speaker 1: And i'm surprised That cooper he threw. It you, know
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't. Working they didn't. Bite this receiver was covered
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  Speaker 1: even if the throw has been. Good so at that
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  Speaker 1: stage of the game and how they were, PLAYING i
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  Speaker 1: was very surprised by that.
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  Speaker 3: Play how do you Reconcile sam's night last? NIGHT i,
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  Speaker 3: mean he played well at, times but also just a
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  Speaker 3: couple crazy mistakes.
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  Speaker 11: Himself yeah, yeah let me let me touch on that
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  Speaker 11: reverse crass By cup IF i could just for a,
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  Speaker 11: second BECAUSE i got a friend in a text group there's,
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  Speaker 11: like why would you do? That and then just throw
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  Speaker 11: a ten twelve yard. Pass they were trying to Get
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  Speaker 11: Tory horton on a corner route up to the back
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  Speaker 11: of the end, zone and you Know houston covered, it
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  Speaker 11: and so then the second option was In jigba as
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  Speaker 11: kind of an, outlet and you know he's relatively. Open
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  Speaker 11: certainly he was opened by quarterback, standards but you know
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  Speaker 11: it's not a quarterback throwing.
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  Speaker 3: It but but To Sam.
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  Speaker 11: Donald, Look Sam donald is coming off of four straight
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  Speaker 11: games where his passer rating is over one hundred and,
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  Speaker 11: ten so he's at seventy. Four last, night he had
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  Speaker 11: two very critical errors like double, minuses and if you
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  Speaker 11: could have a triple, minus you do. That the sack
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  Speaker 11: in the end zone where you know he. Tried mike
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  Speaker 11: knows that on lways spin Where elway had as a
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  Speaker 11: right handed, quarterback he would face feel pressure off his
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  Speaker 11: left and he would spin around to his left and
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  Speaker 11: and he had a knack for making plays out of.
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  Speaker 3: That there's a time for.
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  Speaker 11: That Sam darnold's actually done some of, that and he's
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  Speaker 11: been good in that, regard but he chose a poor
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  Speaker 11: time to do. It it was going to be a
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  Speaker 11: safety and then he didn't have ball security and it
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  Speaker 11: turns into a. Touchdown and then you, know in the fourth,
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  Speaker 11: down fourth, quarter rather when you're just trying to nurse
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  Speaker 11: a lead that interception that he.
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  Speaker 3: Threw And, mike.
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  Speaker 11: You, know from a play construction, STANDPOINT i know you
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  Speaker 11: don't study the coach's tape and maybe THE tv didn't
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  Speaker 11: give the, angle But, mike think of to the right
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  Speaker 11: side AS z. Spot you know the concept well And
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  Speaker 11: chuck And. Buck that's a three man, concept very prevalent
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  Speaker 11: in THE nfl and college and frankly in high.
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  Speaker 3: School but Imagine mike THE z.
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  Speaker 11: Spot but instead of the, court the tight end running
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  Speaker 11: the corner, route the tight end runs a. Scene and
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  Speaker 11: so that, normally if you're gonna go back to chuck and.
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  Speaker 11: Buck if you're going to go getst a three deep,
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  Speaker 11: defense there's there's a structure where you want the corner
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  Speaker 11: route to be the high to clear out the. Corner
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  Speaker 11: but if you run him on a, seam you better
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  Speaker 11: as a, quarterback you better jolly be well be ready
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  Speaker 11: if you try and throw that. Scene you got to
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  Speaker 11: know that there's nothing outside holding that. Corner the corners
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  Speaker 11: in an outside, leverage but he can break underneath, that
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  Speaker 11: and and you'd want to pull him into the. Middle
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  Speaker 11: you'd want to have something else occupying that free safety
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  Speaker 11: and really pull them that free. Safety SO i think
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  Speaker 11: in the in the in the construction of the, PLAY
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  Speaker 11: i don't like. It but the quarterback is enough of
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  Speaker 11: a veteran he's got to, Know, hey that corner can
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  Speaker 11: fall in on that seam. Route and that's what happened With,
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  Speaker 11: stingley the third overall pick in the. Draft you know a,
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  Speaker 11: uh you, know high ceiling, athlete and he makes a
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  Speaker 11: pick that was really. Brutal and SO i would say the, quarterback, Hey,
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  Speaker 11: MIKE i would, SAY i didn't call you a great.
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  Speaker 11: Play uh it didn't you, know play out the way we.
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  Speaker 11: Wanted but you're the last guy with the football in your.
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  Speaker 11: Hand you're the last eyeballs on this, play and you
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  Speaker 11: got to protect my bad. Call what's your take on?
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  Speaker 1: That, well first of, ALL i never made any bad,
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  Speaker 1: calls that's the first.
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  Speaker 3: Thing you.
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  Speaker 1: Know so but, no that's what you. Say you, KNOW i,
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  Speaker 1: SAID i, Go i'm, sorry but you, know if they play,
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  Speaker 1: this you got to know. That and then you've got
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  Speaker 1: to go someplace, else so you qualify the mistake you
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: made or the bad play call against that, defense and
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  Speaker 1: and and then but then you've got the ball in your.
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  Speaker 1: Hands you're the you're the final. One so uh, yeah
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  Speaker 1: that's probably how i'd handle.
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  Speaker 3: It a lot of good things from him, too, Though
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  Speaker 3: coach And, hugh you, know we didn't get to, those
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  Speaker 3: but we should take a couple of. MINUTES i, mean
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  Speaker 3: he's just he's been playing sensational. Football, yeah he made
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: a couple minus minus plays the last, Night but Coach
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  Speaker 3: Sam darnold just continues to play good football out.
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  Speaker 1: Here, no he absolutely. Does and you know, what he
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  Speaker 1: there's no. One it's been my experience and he knows
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  Speaker 1: this because he played the position for so. Long there's
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  Speaker 1: no one that feels it more than the guy who
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  Speaker 1: made the mistake, nobody and he is he has treated,
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  Speaker 1: that you, know his his play that way pretty honestly all.
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  Speaker 1: Season but he is having a good. Year And i've
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  Speaker 1: said it, Before i'll say it. Again he will get us.
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  Speaker 1: There he will get US i don't know exactly how,
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  Speaker 1: far but he will get us to the playoffs and
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  Speaker 1: we'll see what. Happens because you, KNOW i really like,
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  Speaker 1: him obviously you can. Tell BUT i think he's having
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: a great.
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  Speaker 3: START i really like him as.
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  Speaker 11: WELL i think that As mike touched on that touchdown
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  Speaker 11: pass was you, know kind of next. Level that's a
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  Speaker 11: extremely high difficulty, play uh to play with that, timing
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  Speaker 11: the defensive look that he. Had he you, know he's
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  Speaker 11: trying to get it between the corner and the. Safety
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  Speaker 11: but but there had been a uh another safety that
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  Speaker 11: had kind of was right in his selllevision he had
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  Speaker 11: to throw over. Him and to put in that spot
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  Speaker 11: with that kind of, pressure that was an elite throw
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  Speaker 11: that you, know the the the go route up the.
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  Speaker 11: Sideline uh that he just walks out there doing jigba
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  Speaker 11: and all the other. Things and and AND i think
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 11: that what what makes The Demico ryans defense difficult to go.
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  Speaker 11: Against is similar to The seattle. Defense they they they
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 11: don't play a lot of, man they play a lot of,
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  Speaker 11: zone but they do a lot of zone. Pressures they
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 11: bring guys uh and and it puts a it puts
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  Speaker 11: a strain on you to just decipher where the pressures coming,
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  Speaker 11: from and and and and and where the windows are
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  Speaker 11: and so. Uh you, know he he didn't have his best,
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  Speaker 11: game but he played well enough to win given the
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 11: circumstances and how well the defense.
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  Speaker 3: Played seahawks do win twenty seven to nineteen over The
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: Houston texans last night to move to five and two
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  Speaker 3: on the, season and they get to head into the
• 1:13:13
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