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Summer of the Saucers - Ministry X - 040 · Ministry X

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Speaker 1: Making Antarctica green again, trolling the Twitter verse. The carbon
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they want to reduce is you. And there was an
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omily or Antarctica and I think we were it. By
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meet here and.
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Speaker 2: You're listening to ministry X on Fringe Radio Network. We'll
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Speaker 4: Do you understand?
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Speaker 5: Finally mentioned the phrase UFO crash and Raswell, New Mexico
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immediately comes to mind.
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Speaker 6: It is the most famous UFO incident.
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Speaker 7: Of all time and marks the year nineteen forty seven
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as the beginning of the modern UFO Here, but people
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realized it wasn't Americus.
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Speaker 2: First, I was there Old.
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Speaker 8: Consider two weeks before Roswell, another uf leisad took place
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over fugit song from Washington state.
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Speaker 5: The art differences between this question Washington and lost.
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Speaker 7: Well.
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on my desk bouncing back and forth and gyrating. I'm
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really not into all these weird things gizmos and scientific
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puzzles and stuff. I mean, I collect a lot of
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weird records, and I watched a lot of weird movies.
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I guess, Well, actually UFOs are going to be the
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subject of this particular episode, which I mean, that's not
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really a surprise if you've been following the podcast. I
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know I've been on kind of a hiatus for many
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reasons which I just don't need to go into. But
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I began this podcast examining not so well known, rather
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obscure UFO hoax, and that was sort of the entry
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point into this and off and on. I will come
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back to the UFO alien discussion like we're gonna do
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right now, because there's just an overload of UFO stuff
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coming out every day. It's the new normal. But you
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should know before we get started. I am kind of
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a skeptic of the et the extraterrestrial hypothesis, and that
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makes a lot of people fringe, people uncomfortable, angry, even
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And I'm actually working on a book that attempts to
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identify this phenomenon or a group of phenomena, because at
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the core of this podcast is actually a search for truth.
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It's not aliens. It's not fringe. I mean, it's kind
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of a truther podcast, a Truther Come to Jesus podcast.
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It's it's so boring and it's sexy now to believe
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in aliens. And we have a safe space now to
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talk about aliens in the media, and you're not automatically
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dismissed as being a nerd or a lunatic, some kind
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of weird cult member. And I think we're going to
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see more scientific study and of course more what's the
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word I'm looking for, more lies, more misinformation. I was
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on vacation actually, and we went to Washington State and
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we went to Maury Island as part of our trip.
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We spent a week there and I didn't realize it
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at the time. This is the Maury Island from the
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somewhat famous Moury Island UFO incident. And I was actually
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there on the Island down by the beach, we saw
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the lighthouse there. I think it's the Point Robinson Lighthouse.
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And right across the water, right across Puget Sound is Seattle,
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sort of a little northeast of our position. So upon
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returning from vacation, I decided to do some research into
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the Maury Island UFO incident because it's kind of a
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curious one and it's one of the first, perhaps the
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first reported instance of the men in black, the so
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called men in Black, And we're going to talk about
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that incident, but we're also going to talk about the
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Kenneth Arnold sightings and a little bit about Roswell too,
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as these three events typically form what ufologists refer.
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Speaker 4: To as.
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Speaker 2: The Summer of the Saucers in nineteen forty seven. That
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summer you had all three of these events, the Moree
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Island incident, Kenneth Arnold's siding where we got the term
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flying saucer from, and then of course Roswell, which is
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perhaps the best known of all of these. So we're
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going to touch on all of those. But why do
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we examine UFOs and aliens and all this? You know,
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that's a good question, isn't it all just demons. If
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this is a Christian ministry podcast, shouldn't I be talking
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about Jesus and the Bible? And, like I said, this
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is a very good question, a question that I've heard
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many times. And I had an email from this individual,
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a new listener who was searching for podcasts about Christian
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ministry and they came across this show and they were
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confused while I was talking about all this paranormal, esoteric stuff.
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So I'm like, that's a legit question. You know, as
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much as I try to explain my whole strategy and
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articulate this, and if you actually listen through the whole show,
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I do connect these topics back to the Bible. And
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I think it's important that the end Time Church be
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educated on this subject matter because we're going into the future.
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We're moving through prophecy as we speak, and technology is
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advancing exponentially. Our children, the gen Z and the gen Alphas,
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they need to learn a little bit from the gen
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X that the future is going to be like X
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files on steroids X and gen Z is like what's
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X files?
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Speaker 4: Okay?
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Speaker 2: Because the Boomers got duped. They were born at the
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beginning of the modern UFO era. And what is significant
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about this time period. It's the period following the end
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of the Second World War. First thing to understand, or
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call it the Cold War period. My parents grew up
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with science fiction tales about spaceships and aliens on Venus
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and Mars and pod people, and then in the eighties
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they read Communion. They watched ET, and we watched ET.
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But the psyche of the Boomer has been subconsciously traumatized
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at this low level for decades, and so have we.
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But the Boomer, says, just seems lack a bunch of
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Hollywood movie magic. You know, it's science fiction, it's just fantasy.
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I say, yeah, But isn't it interesting that all these
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sci fi stories directly parallel with ancient mythology of the
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gods waging war, disputing over the destinies of mankind, and
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assuming a physical form in order to engage with us,
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to carry messages to us, to instruct us, impregnate us,
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because they're more advanced, wiser, more spiritual, they're more highly evolved.
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But what's astonishing to me is that this is the
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story of the Watchers. And I feel like we're nearing
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the climax of the story. I can remember when it
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first clicked. I was watching Steve Quaile video discussing this,
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and say what you want about Steve Quail, he was
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able to direct me to a lot of help full
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resources to better understand this. And it turns out you
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have to understand Genesis and Exodus and Job and Daniel
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and Ezekiel and June and Acts and Peter and Revelation
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to understand the alien deception that's coming. It's literally all
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throughout the Bible. The problem is you don't read it,
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or you do read it, but you don't understand what
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you're reading from the perspective of an ancient person living
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in the Middle East. So take some time to listen
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to the show, because my main focus is connecting all
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this modern day ancient aliens UFO UAP disclosure stuff back
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to the scriptures. And then if you really want to
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get PhD level, we can take a look at some
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other extra biblical sources of information too that the Israelites
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and the Romans and Babylonians and Egyptians, all these people
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took for granted Enoch, Jubilees Jasher. Okay, they're there to
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give us historical context and more details and where the
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Bible doesn't go into explicit detail, it's probably because it
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didn't need to be explained to the people that would
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be reading these scrolls or hearing someone read from the scrolls.
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It was already a well established truth that was circulating
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in the oral traditions, long before these accounts were written down,
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long before it was decided, you know, which books would
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be included in our modern Bibles of today. In tewod
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Peter two four. The angels who sinned? Okay, the people
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already knew what Peter was talking about. He was talking
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about Genesis six Jude fourteen and fifteen. Behold, the Lord
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is coming with myriads of his Holy ones to execute
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judgment on everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of
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every ungodly act of wickedness and every harsh word spoken
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against him by ungodly sinners. That's a reference. That's a
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direct reference to Enoch one nine. So these scrolls were
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already out there. These people already understood what the angels
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who sinned, what happened there? Okay, who are the holy ones?
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These are the sons of God, the host of Heaven,
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the divine counsel. Okay, the angels, Well, what about the
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rebellious angels, the ones who left their first estate, which
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means they teleported from the heavens to the earth. It
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was well known that divine beings from the heavens traveled
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in chariots with unknown propulsion systems Moses job John. Okay,
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they have a really hard time explaining what exactly they're
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seeing in these visions of heaven. So when we're talking
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about the end times, we're talking about a time that
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is gonna be this kaleidoscope of illusion and deception. Jesus
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instructed his disciples to not be deceived Matthew twenty four.
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Many of the prophecies in the Bible have already been fulfilled,
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but not all of them. And the Bible says that
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false Christs and false prophets will perform great signs and
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wonders to lead astray even the elect, the chosen people
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of God, if it were possible, Well, it sounds like
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it's possible when you listen to some of the absolute
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nonsense that people believe, and maybe you think what I
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believe is nonsense, you know, but there is this very
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important reason why I've taken this lifelong interest in the
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UFO topic and turned it into a discernment ministry because
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Christians are gonna be caught up in the deception and
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it's gonna involve aliens to some degree, Okay, or what
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they try to tell you are aliens. Notice how the
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language is slowly morphing. Now they're non human intelligences. So
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ancient aliens is telling you the aliens came from Nibiru.
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They lied to our ancestors and claimed they were gods,
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and they're coming back, you know, when planet X returns X.
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But the Bible tells, you know, the heavenly hosts are
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created beings, servants of God, most high little ges with
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little jurisdictions on the earth, except they ruled unjustly. They
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were corrupt, and they corrupted life on earth by mating
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with humans and crossing their seed with the seed of
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the beasts, the creeping, crawling things of the earth and
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the birds of the air.
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Speaker 7: And.
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Speaker 2: They created horrific abominations and monsters. Okay. Essentially they're doing
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genetic research.
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Speaker 9: Okay.
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Speaker 2: That would be the modern parallel of what's going on
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and the secret societies. The magical orders are just modern
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forms of the ancient mystery schools. These cults of the
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various little g gods that have preserved, you know, some
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little nugget of knowledge from the fallen angels, and so
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that's their little cult. And that's the first key to
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understanding this. But we can trace this all the way
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forward to reptilians and grays and flying saucers and government
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cover ups and conspiracies that we've become so familiar with
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in recent years, and especially in the fringe circles that
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I associated. And yes, gnomes gnomes are often mistaken for aliens.
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Cinderella X had to correct me about the gnomes. Gnomes, Fairies, trolls, elves, dwarves,
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hobbits exist here on Earth right now. And maybe you
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know one. Maybe you don't know that you know one.
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Do you go around? Do you go around checking out
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people's ears, like brush their hair back a little bit?
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Speaker 4: Let me get a look at them ears.
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Speaker 2: What you need here is this pair of shades. Put
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these on.
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Speaker 3: Wait, hey, you better find yourself someplace to hide and
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keep praying nobody ever finds you.
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Speaker 2: Try these off.
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Speaker 3: Look, you've crazy, mother, Put these off.
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Speaker 4: Hey, stay away from me.
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Speaker 3: I'm telling you.
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Speaker 7: You done it now.
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Speaker 2: This is great.
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Speaker 9: I'm trying to save you and your family's life.
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Speaker 4: You couldn't even say in your own.
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Speaker 2: Okay. And who was the guy in the movie manufacturing
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and distributing these shades, Well, it was a pastor, if
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you recall, of course, that was They Live, the John
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Carpenter film. But since your pastor isn't talking about aliens
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and doesn't think these things are walking among us, he's
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not making any special sunglasses. Heck, he's not even talking
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about Jude or Peter or Enoch or when the topic
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comes up, he tells all the good little parishioners not
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to look into it because it's all demonic. Your pastor
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is scared. You're scared. We're not called to live in fear.
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This is so stupid, because all of these things have
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to submit to Jesus. When you're afraid, when you're traumatized,
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when you got PTSD, you make poor decisions. Then you
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can have a situation in the near future. We're an
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alien hybrid that looks mostly human, puts on a robe
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and sandals and says, hey, I'm Jesus. Put on this
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jet pack. It's the rapture and you're gonna be like, Okay,
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But if you listen to Ministry X and many other
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fringe Christian podcasts out there that get into this topic,
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You're less likely to be among those who fall for
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this end Times deception. So that's really why I do this.
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It's not silly and it's not a joke, although I
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make a lot of jokes that may not be silly
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or funny, but I'm not afraid. When something is unidentified,
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it's scary. And I'm also not saying I know exactly
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what's going on here, but I do have some highly
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educated someone trying to skype in again, so I don't
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know everything that's going on, but I do feel like
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I have some holy spirit informed deductions that I feel
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compelled to share with you. Because the religious institutions the
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governments of the world are interested in one thing, and
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that's controlling what you think, what you believe. They want
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to control the narratives so they can preserve their power.
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They obscure the truth. The very notion that the government
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would ever disclose any information of value to the common
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citizen is naive. These agencies are in place to hide
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the truth from you. I, on the other hand, am
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trying to expose the truth and expose what the cover
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up is really about and identifying the unidentified, because it's
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only a UFO or UAP if it's unidentified. But the
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fact is it's not unidentified to everyone's somebody knows what
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that thing is. Well, let's take a quick break and
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when we return, we'll actually talk about the summer of
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the saucers and what went on, and then we're going
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to talk about some new DoD dumps, Department of Defense,
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some tender victuals on Ministry X fringe radio network. Uh oh, okay,
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we're back. I guess.
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Speaker 7: Now.
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Speaker 2: The Moury Island incident is actually one of the earliest
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and most mysterious UFO sidings in the United States, taking
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place in June nineteen forty seven near Moury Island, Washington.
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It involved a man named Harold Dahl, who claimed to
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have witnessed several flying saucer like craft while on a
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boat with his son, his dog, and two crew members
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near Moury Island in Puget Sound. Dall reported that one
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of the strange doughnut shaped craft seemed to malfunction, releasing
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metallic debris that rained down onto his boat. The debris
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reportedly killed his dog and injured his son. It was
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like this metallic slag type substance that when it hit
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the water would steam and boil. Following the incident, Dall
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informed his supervisor, Fred Chrissman, a very interesting character as
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we'll find out, who later claimed to have retrieved some
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of the debris. The story quickly attracted the tension of
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the press, and ultimately two Army Air Force Intelligence officers,
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Captain William Davidson and Lieutenant Frank Brown. The two officers
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interviewed Dall and Chrisman and collected some of the debris. However, tragically,
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their plane crashed en route back to California, killing both men.
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So this incident has really contributed to a lot of
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theories of government UFO cover ups. And what's unique about
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this case is it's the first incident of MiB encounter,
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or one of the first. We had mysterious men in
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black who visited both Dall and Chrisman and warned them
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to keep quiet about the sighting. Now it stands the
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reason that Dall was probably threatened by these MIBs him
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and his family. Their safety was threatened, job security perhaps
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was threatened, reputation was threatened because later Dall would recant
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his story and say that he made it all up. Now,
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a lot of the fact checkers and debunkers and skeptics
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will cite this case and say, well, this is a hoax.
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He went on the record and said he made it
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all up, without taking into account that he was more
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than likely pressured to do so. Now, this Moray Island case,
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this happened just days before the more famous siding by
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pilot Kenneth Arnold, which really helped spark the nationwide flying
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saucer craze. But what's interesting is Dall's description of these
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craft were more donut shaped, so they were hollowed out
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in the middle, and this is the area of the
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malfunctioning craft that was spewing out this metal slag. And
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then also with the Kenneth Arnold siding, he never described
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the shape of the craft as being saucer shaped. The
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media took his description of the motion of the craft,
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which he described as like saucers skipping across the water.
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So he was describing the motion of the craft that
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had this sort of skipping motion, and the newspaper, when
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they you know, threw the headline together, just called it
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a flying saucer and then from there on out everyone
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called them flying saucers. But before that we had donut
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shaped things, we had foo fighters during World War Two. So,
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you know, fact checkers will call this a hoax, but
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I think it's too easy of dismissal, and especially conce
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considering Chrismin's connections. Who's basically the guy who brought Dall
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to the attention of you know, ufologists and the media. Now,
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Fred Chrisman is a fascinating figure whose connections go far
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beyond this Maury Island incident. Chrisman was a veteran of
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World War Two and he sort of gained this reputation
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for being involved in all these weird conspiracies. So in
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the Moury Island incident, he's just the supervisor and friend
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of Dall, who was the primary witness. But Chrismin's claims
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added this complexity to the case. He was the one
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that reported seeing the debris and recovering debris, but he
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also claimed to have previously encountered unusual phenomenon, including a
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bizarre experience with these cave dwelling trolls or these cave
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dwelling beings in Burma during the war. A. Christman's life
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became even more mysterious after Maury Island, and he found
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himself entangled in other conspiracies, including the JFK assassination. The
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mother of all conspiracy theories, so Jim Garrison, who was
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the New Orleans District Attorney who investigated the JFK assassination
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and had alleged that Chrismin was involved in covert intelligence
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work and that he was there in Dallas on the
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day of the assassination. Garrison believed Chrisman was associated with
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a group of conspirators, although that's never been proven. And
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then Chrisman pops up again when it comes to the
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Men in Black, and some conspiracy theorists suggest that he
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was an unofficial agent at an unofficial MiB suppressing and
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controlling UFO information. Then it sort of gets kind of
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foggy and mysterious and mythologized. The Summer of the Saucers
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refers to the wave of UFO sidings and mysterious events
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across the United States in the summer of nineteen forty seven,
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which most people credit with sparking the modern era of
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UFO enthusiasm and speculation. So we get all kinds of
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reports and media coverage of flying saucers and unexplained phenomena,
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which leads to this public fascination with UFOs and on
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the surface government interest in this phenomenon, this unexplained phenomenon.
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But I think behind the scenes they from a very
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early point knew a lot more about what this phenomenon
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actually entailed. Maury Island just sort of sets the stage
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for this in June, and then, like I mentioned, just
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days later, on June twenty fourth, pilot Kenneth Arnold reported
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seeing nine mysterious crescent shaped objects flying near Mount Rainier,
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and he described their movement as quote like a saucer
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skipping on water unquote. So now pretty much everything at
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this point it becomes a flying saucer. Within weeks, other
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prominent sidings emerged, including reports from military and civilian sources
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around the country. Of the most famous of these was
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the Roswell incident in July nineteen forty seven, where an
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unidentified object crashed on a ranch in New Mexico. Initial
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reports described it as a flying disc, and military authorities
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later clarified that it was a weather balloon. We all
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know the story. Of course, many people believe the object
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was of extraterrestrial origin. The Summer of the Saucers also
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led to early instances of government involvement in UFO cases,
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and this is where the Project Sign comes from, Project
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Blue Book, Project Grudge. By the end of the year
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nineteen forty seven, the Air Force had already established Project Sign,
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and ever since there's been subsequent surface level quote unquote
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investigations into UFOs by the Air Force military intelligence. So
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nineteen forty seven becomes this nexus point in the modern
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UFO era. And I don't think it's a coincidence that
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this all coincides. In nineteen forty seven with the signing
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of the National Security Act under President Truman. This established
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the CIA, which was basically a reorganization of the OSS,
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the Office of Strategic Services. And I don't think it's
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a coincidence that this is the Cold War now, this
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is the space race, this is the nuclear arms race,
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and the intervention of covert intelligence into nations all over
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the Earth to suppress the spread of communism or whatever
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the excuse was. Basically, it was the New World Order
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establishing itself and establishing its global power, and that's what
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happened in the aftermath of world War two, you had
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a restructuring just like you had in World War One,
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just like you had after you know, the Ottoman Empire
42:40
collapsed was defeated. So yeah, the aliens, the aliens have
42:51
interest in all this politics on the planet Earth. Right,
42:58
Who's more likely to have an interest in the politics
43:01
of the planet Earth and the nations of the Earth. So, Portland, Oregon,
43:13
also experienced a wave of UFO sidings that summer. A
43:22
number of UFO sidings were reported in Portland and nearby
43:25
areas that also contributed to this wave of flying saucer sidings.
43:35
So July fourth, nineteen forty seven, there was a group
43:38
of people who reported seeing several disc like objects in
43:41
the sky over the city. Several witnesses in Portland described
43:48
seeing multiple discs moving at high speeds, flying in unusual formations,
43:54
and disappearing from sight within seconds. Their descriptions matched those
43:59
given by other other witnesses around the country, adding to
44:04
the sense that these sightings were part of a widespread,
44:07
unexplained phenomenon. Now, some of these Portland sidings occurred on
44:14
the fourth of July, so skeptics have sometimes speculated that
44:18
people may have mistaken fireworks or you know, for the UFOs,
44:26
but I mean we have Fourth of July like every year.
44:29
I mean, people know what fireworks look like. They're not
44:32
disc shaped craft. So all of this is really setting
44:39
the tone for what we would see time and time
44:43
again in the modern UFO era, even up to twenty
44:53
twenty four. And the supposed disclosure and everything that's going
44:57
on the Summer of the Saucers is what established basically
45:04
the unusual nature of these flying saucers, the shape, who
45:10
was potentially piloting these things, and also the idea that
45:17
the government was on the one hand investigating these things
45:22
and on the other hand covering it up. And that's
45:27
kind of at the core of the way I look
45:30
at things, with the exception of the identity of the
45:38
beings who are piloting the supposed craft, and that's where
45:43
I sort of diverge, and that's where my Christian bias
45:47
comes into play. So I'm open about that and I
45:53
think it needs to be part of the discussion, and
45:55
apparently it has been part of the discussion for many years.
46:01
Luis Alizondo just released a new book and he comments
46:08
again about people inside the Pentagon. I guess the old
46:12
fuddy duddies. You know, we're warning against working with the aliens.
46:23
Some of what they reportedly witnessed was horrific related to
46:29
these mind control mind meld experiments, leading them to the
46:37
conclusion that this was demonic in nature. And both Alessando
46:47
and Ron James of Mouffon, who I interviewed last year,
46:52
claimed that Bible believing Christians in the Department of Defense
46:58
are blocking research into UFOs out of fear or discernment
47:06
perhaps that these nhis non human intelligences are evil, okay,
47:19
And is this the group known informally as the Collins Elite.
47:27
So this is kind of where my research is heading.
47:31
And I want to try and reach out to Nick
47:35
Redfern because we seem to already be reaching or getting
47:43
very close to this sort of singularity where we're going
47:49
to see revelation of sorts as to the true nature
47:54
of these beings that are supposedly piloting these craft. And
48:01
I'm working on a book and I need to talk
48:03
to this man. So hopefully we'll get to have a
48:07
follow up to this episode and get to interview Nick Redfern,
48:15
who wrote about this extensively in the book Final Events.
48:21
I think there's still these different schisms inside the government,
48:26
and Luis Alisondo is a testament to that, whether or
48:29
not you believe his the narrative that he's pushing, or
48:34
you believe the narrative that Stephen Greer is pushing in
48:37
regards to this, it is possible that there's Christian resistance
48:44
inside the government. There's factions certainly within the Pentagon, the
48:51
Air Force, NASA and these other agencies, what about Space Force,
49:00
and the DoD has sort of dropped the ball on disclosure,
49:03
not accidentally, not out of just mere red tape and
49:10
bureaucracy and national security privacy issues now as it concerns
49:20
the Department of Defense. Obviously, the latest round of congressional
49:26
testimony going on. As I mentioned, Louis Alexando has a
49:32
new book out, what's it called Imminent, hinting that disclosure
49:41
is imminent. Now, I don't automatically accept everything that Louis
49:48
Alexando says as truth, just like I didn't accept everything
49:52
that David Grush said as truth. Because these guys that
49:57
come out of Navy intelligence, Air Force intelligence, Defense intelligence
50:04
that are working inside these secret access programs, the secret
50:11
space program, they're all compartmentalized, they could be told anything,
50:16
they could be shown something, they could be used as
50:21
vehicles for disinformation, And in fact, there's a lot of
50:27
testimony that that, in fact is one of the ways
50:33
in which the deep state, the dark state, maintains secrecy
50:41
over these programs. And they're designed to be above the
50:46
law in matters of national security. So of course the
50:54
whistle blowers that are coming out are going to frame
50:59
this as a national security issue, otherwise they don't get
51:03
any kind of funding. What I really think is interesting
51:08
the material that's coming out of this next round of disclosure.
51:13
Oh yeah, disclosures happening, Like we're in the midst of it,
51:20
at least this round, at least in this era. See,
51:24
we're never going to get to the point where it's clear.
51:27
We're going to get to the point where everything's so
51:29
completely obscured and backwards from reality. We're going to believe that,
51:36
We're going to believe that's the disclosure. That's not the disclosure,
51:40
that's the lie. Now I'm talking in very general terms,
51:46
I want to talk about some specific things. The most
51:49
interesting material is the Immaculate Constellation material, which I'm going
51:56
to devote to an entire episode, so we're only gonna
52:03
brush the surface of it here. Immaculate Constellation is the
52:12
name of the program. According to Michael Schellenberger, who was
52:22
part of the UAP hearings in the Senate that was
52:32
November thirteenth, I'm gonna read a little bit from his
52:37
written testimony, and then we're going to play a clip.
52:44
So this is from page four of the two hundred
52:48
and fourteen page written testimony from Schellenberger. In June of
52:55
this year, Trump said that the government has information about
53:00
that it has not released. Quote. I have access, he said,
53:05
and I speak to people about it. I've had actually
53:07
meetings on it, and they will tell you there's something
53:10
going on unquote. And in his interview with Joe Rogan
53:15
in October, Trump said the DoD or IC that's intelligence
53:20
community told him a lot about UAPs that has not
53:25
been revealed.
53:28
Speaker 3: Now.
53:29
Speaker 2: Schellenberger goes on to say that does not mean that
53:34
non human beings occupy or are operating the UAPs, nor
53:40
that the US government and military contractors are hiding crashed
53:45
spacecraft or bodies, as some former astronauts, former IC officers,
53:51
and former military leaders claim. There are other explanations for UAPs.
54:00
Current dominant alternative theories, including those put forward by Arrow,
54:07
are that UAPs or some kind of natural phenomenon we
54:10
don't understand yet, like ball, lightning, or plasma. They could
54:16
also be part of some new US or foreign government
54:20
weapons program, such as drones, aircraft, balloons, CGI hoaxes, or birds.
54:31
Speaker 3: Birds.
54:33
Speaker 2: Other UAP skeptics say that some combination of government disinformation
54:39
and social contagion, like the Satanic panic of the nineteen
54:42
eighties or the Salem witch trials among UAP believers in
54:48
the US military that that sentence doesn't make sense. I'm
55:00
reading directly from the testimony, so the error is in
55:05
the written testimony. Is it possible that the Pentagon and
55:12
CIA are still playing disinformation games with the American people
55:17
to cover up unacknowledged programs, or that intelligence and security
55:22
agencies as well as politicians, are creating a UAP hoax
55:26
to frighten the public. And is it possible that whistleblowers
55:31
are fabricating parts or all of their testimony. These are
55:36
very important questions. This is what needs to be discussed.
55:42
I think it's rather obvious at this point that the
55:49
US military working in tandem with these aerospace companies have
55:59
developed technolog that is very advanced secret. Maybe we have
56:09
in fact developed anti gravity capability, but it's going to
56:21
be a closely guarded secret. So like Richard Dody and
56:26
others have claimed they were responsible for putting out disinformation
56:32
about this to either get people to believe in aliens,
56:40
because if you say, some weird dude, some government dude
56:43
came up to me and said, yeah, uh well, actually
56:48
it's aliens. We have recovered spaceships and that's what the
56:53
government doesn't want you to know. Then that becomes the
56:57
mysterious cover up, not the cover up that the militaries
57:00
actually developed this technology. We have these capabilities, and we
57:08
want that speculation and disinformation floating around out there for everybody,
57:15
including our adversaries. Okay, let me continue reading. I'm gonna
57:21
skip down a little bit, run page five.
57:23
Speaker 3: Now.
57:23
Speaker 2: Last October, you may remember, the Office of the Director
57:28
of National Intelligence and the Department of Defense published their
57:32
twenty twenty three annual Report on UAPs. It said that
57:37
many reports from military witnesses do present potential safety or
57:42
flight concerns, and there are some cases where reported uap
57:46
have potentially exhibited one or more concerning performance characteristics, such
57:52
as high speed travel or unusual maneuverability. The report also
57:58
noted that UAP incidents have been deconflicted with potential secret
58:04
US programs, and that none of the incidents have been
58:08
positively attributed to foreign activities. Finally, many videos and photographs
58:15
cannot be easily dismissed, and people have reported similar UAPs
58:20
before drones, aircraft, and CGI existed or were widespread and
58:26
now existing. In Former US government officials have told members
58:30
of Congress that Arrow and the Pentagon have broken the
58:33
law by not revealing a significant body of information about UAPs,
58:39
including military intelligence databases that have evidence of their existence
58:44
as physical craft. Now we get to immaculate constellation. One
58:53
of these individuals is a current or former US government
58:56
official acting as a UAP whistleblower. The person has written
59:01
a report that says the executive Branch has been managing
59:05
UAP NHI issues without congressional knowledge, oversight, or authorization for
59:13
some time, quite possibly decades. Furthermore, these individuals have revealed
59:20
the name of an active and highly secretive DoD unacknowledged
59:25
Special Access program or USAP. The source of the document
59:30
told public that the USAP is a strategic intelligence program
59:37
that as part of the US military's family of long standing,
59:40
highly sensitive programs dealing with various aspects of the UAP problem.
59:46
The new UAP whistleblower claims that the US military and
59:51
IC database includes videos and images taken using infrared, forward looking, infrared,
59:57
full motion video, and still feteography. The government whistleblower made
1:00:03
their claims in a report provided to Authorized Committees of
1:00:06
Congress and their staff. The whistleblower alleges that the DD
1:00:11
created the USAP called Immaculate Constellation in twenty seventeen after
1:00:17
The New York Times published an article describing an informal
1:00:21
Pentagon UAP program called Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program or
1:00:27
a TIP. The report shared with Congress says Immaculate Constellation
1:00:34
serves as a central or parent USAP that consolidates observations
1:00:40
of UAPs by both tasked and untasked collection platforms. The
1:00:50
whistleblower's report includes seven categories of evidence. It describes in
1:00:55
detail various UAP sidings collected by technical act and US
1:01:01
military personnel, the multitude of wavelengths collected by these sensors.
1:01:06
The report says have captured UAP characteristics that are difficult
1:01:11
or impossible to observe with the human eye alone. Subtle
1:01:15
atmospheric effects associated with UAPs are also visible through the
1:01:19
sensors employed by the US military and intelligence agencies. The
1:01:25
verifiable chain of custody for UAP I meant quality imagery
1:01:30
intelligence collected by US military assets. The person wrote ensures
1:01:36
a high level of confidence in the accuracy and integrity
1:01:39
of the data gathered, so they have a strong chain
1:01:45
of custody with this evidence. Supposedly immaculate constellation quote includes
1:01:59
high quality the imagery intelligence I meant and measurement and
1:02:02
signature intelligence mass INT of UAPs. The Whistleblower report adds
1:02:10
the sources of this intelligence are a blend of directed
1:02:13
and incidental collection capabilities positioned in low Earth orbit, the
1:02:19
upper atmosphere, as well as military and civilian aviation altitudes
1:02:24
and maritime environments. The report to Congress describes in detail
1:02:30
various UAPs QUOTE from nineteen ninety one to two thousand
1:02:34
and two. The most common UAP shapes reported in this
1:02:39
USG data set were spheres, slash orbs, disks, slash saucers, ovals, slash,
1:02:49
tic TACs, triangles, boomerang slash, arrowhead, and irregular slash organic quote.
1:03:01
One UAP maneuvered in proximity greater than twelve meters to
1:03:05
the area directly starboard of the cockpit. There the UAP
1:03:10
established a rigid spatial relationship with the F twenty two,
1:03:14
maintaining its exact position and orientation parallel with the F
1:03:18
twenty two's cockpit. Despite multiple evasive rolls and maneuvers surrounded
1:03:25
by the presumed hostile UAPs, the F twenty two was
1:03:28
forced out of the mission area under the escort of
1:03:31
the UAP formation. In another incident, the crew of a
1:03:37
Navy aircraft carrier watched a quote small orange red sphere
1:03:44
rapidly descend from a high altitude to one hundred to
1:03:47
two hundred yards directly above the flight deck of the
1:03:51
CVN that's an aircraft carrier. The UAPs appeared to emit
1:03:57
a soft orange red light, which bizarrely did not illuminate
1:04:01
the ocean or the flight deck of the CVN. Despite
1:04:05
the visual appearance of intense luminosity, The surface of the
1:04:10
UAP was observed to be dynamic quote roiling, like the
1:04:15
surface of the sun. Since my reporting last month, another
1:04:22
source told me that they saw a roughly thirteen minute long,
1:04:26
high definition, full color video of a white orb UAP
1:04:31
coming out of the ocean approximately twenty miles off the
1:04:35
coast of Kuwait. It was filmed from a helicopter. Then,
1:04:40
halfway through the video, the person said, the ORB is
1:04:43
joined by another ORB that briefly comes into the frame
1:04:47
from the left before rapidly moving again out of the frame.
1:04:51
The person discovered the video on the Secure Internet Protocol
1:04:56
Router network, the secure network that the DoD uses to
1:05:00
transmit classified information. Now, like I said, I'm going to
1:05:06
follow up on this with a full episode covering the
1:05:10
Immaculate Constellation material. And there's a lot. Like I said,
1:05:15
there's two hundred and fourteen pages here of this testimony.
1:05:19
And Schellenberger also testified before the Senate earlier this week
1:05:26
and mentions some of this evidence some of this testimony.
1:05:33
So I think we're finally reaching that point where the
1:05:36
public is starting to put together some puzzle pieces as
1:05:40
it concerns this UAP information, this phenomenon. As to the
1:05:51
reasons for the secrecy, I suspect two scenarios. One is
1:06:02
there actually is a national security risk in revealing this information,
1:06:08
probably because it's top secret aircraft that we're developing. We
1:06:14
don't want our adversaries to know the level of technology
1:06:17
that we are able to create and deploy. That's why
1:06:24
there's all this secrecy over the Chinese spy balloons, et cetera.
1:06:33
The more questions and speculations that are out there, the
1:06:36
less your enemies can pin down your capabilities. But I
1:06:43
also believe because you could just say to Russia, to China,
1:06:48
to Iran that hey, look we've got anti GRAVI tech,
1:06:54
don't mess with us, right, you would think you may
1:07:01
want to advertise your technological capabilities to discourage your enemies.
1:07:15
I think it's a little bit deeper than that. Why
1:07:16
else do governments cover up and hide information? Historically with
1:07:23
our government, it's because they've been involved in unethical research,
1:07:30
unethical behavior, unethical espionage, et cetera, which they have the
1:07:43
clearance to do.
1:07:46
Speaker 10: So.
1:07:46
Speaker 2: I suspect it's some combination of both of these motivations
1:07:50
that's leading to the current situation. As far as the
1:07:53
unethical portion of this, of course, there's all the military
1:07:57
mind control experiments that Ray Bouchet talked about so it
1:08:12
seems they've set up this perfect system of deniability. These
1:08:21
whistleblowers are allowed to testify, but only about certain things,
1:08:28
and then the Department of Defense can come back and say, well,
1:08:31
we haven't really found any evidence that any of this
1:08:34
is extraterrestrial. We certainly don't have any crash retrieval programs.
1:08:41
That's ridiculous. Anyways, let me play a little clip from
1:08:49
the Senate hearings.
1:08:54
Speaker 11: Mister Elizondo, or does the any branch of the United
1:09:01
States government or defense contractors possessed technology?
1:09:06
Speaker 12: Sir?
1:09:06
Speaker 13: There's documentation that I believe was submitted for the record
1:09:10
that was released as a proof for release by the
1:09:13
US Pentagon by the Department of Defense Office of Pre
1:09:16
Publication Security Review, and it is It states one of
1:09:20
the reasons why my predecessor program ALLSAP was trying to
1:09:24
collect material of unknown origin.
1:09:30
Speaker 4: Was it successfully collected?
1:09:32
Speaker 13: It was not. What happened is that there was an
1:09:34
aerospace contract company that requested to divest itself of the
1:09:38
material that was collected in nineteen fifties. Unfortunately that didn't
1:09:42
actually occur.
1:09:43
Speaker 4: So let's dive into that.
1:09:45
Speaker 11: That's the Bigelow airspace correct, So sure, there was a journalist,
1:09:50
Christopher Sharp, who said that there was a transfer between
1:09:54
Lockey Martin Bigelow Airspace and the CIA allegedly blocked this.
1:09:58
Speaker 4: Can you describe that?
1:10:00
Speaker 13: What I can say is that it was blocked. Why
1:10:03
it was blocked, I can only surmise. I was part
1:10:07
of some conversations later on with some of those contract
1:10:10
personnel where they had told all of us that is accurate.
1:10:15
What we required was a memo from the Secretary of
1:10:18
the Air Force in order to make that complete, and
1:10:20
that never occurred. And so when Secretary Mattis became Secretary
1:10:24
of Defense, I decided it would be appropriate for me
1:10:27
to try to receive a memo from him as sect
1:10:30
def as Secretary of Defense if we could not get
1:10:32
a memo from the Secretary of the Air Force to
1:10:34
transfer that material.
1:10:35
Speaker 11: So, if that material exists today, who's in possession?
1:10:41
Speaker 9: Sir?
1:10:41
Speaker 13: I wouldn't be able to have that conversation in an
1:10:43
open hearing. We probably have to have had.
1:10:45
Speaker 4: That, Okay.
1:10:45
Speaker 11: My question to you then is if we were in
1:10:48
a secure setting, if we were in a skiff, would
1:10:51
you be able to provide or get access to something,
1:10:57
whether it's a visuals or material we could put our
1:11:00
hands on or bio logics that would convince me, that
1:11:05
would show me.
1:11:08
Speaker 4: That we have non human origins.
1:11:10
Speaker 13: So that decision would not be mine. That would be
1:11:12
to the gatekeeper still in the US government.
1:11:14
Speaker 11: And who would we So if you were in our shoes,
1:11:16
where would you go from here?
1:11:17
Speaker 4: How would you get that information? How would where you know?
1:11:21
Speaker 11: A lot of times we just don't know who to
1:11:22
ask because we don't know where to go next. So
1:11:26
if you were in our shoes, where would you go?
1:11:28
Speaker 13: Well, I prefer to answer that question in a closed session. However,
1:11:31
we established ARROW for that very purpose, and unfortunately, under
1:11:35
its previous leadership, it failed. So one would hope that
1:11:39
they would have the authorities necessary to do that. Let's
1:11:43
hope that this new iteration of leadership will be successful.
1:11:48
Speaker 2: Okay, so this sounds like a repeat of the congressional
1:11:51
hearings last year with Grush and Graves. There's just this
1:12:01
round and round and round. Nobody knows anything, nobody knows
1:12:05
who to contact, unless, of course, you get into a
1:12:08
skiff and then we can talk about it maybe, But
1:12:13
then that never gets approved, that never happens, there's no
1:12:17
follow up. So disclosures not really happening. It's not happening
1:12:25
because according to your government, you the American people don't
1:12:30
have a right to know. Really, all these whistleblowers are
1:12:35
asking is that these secret access programs have some sort
1:12:41
of government oversight. In other words, there has to be
1:12:45
certain members of Congress by law that are in the
1:12:51
loop when it comes to these programs existence and they're funding, etc.
1:12:57
It doesn't mean they have to share with the American people,
1:13:00
you know, what's actually going on in these projects. Maybe
1:13:04
that's even just too dangerous of a step because Congress
1:13:08
is representatives of the people. In theory, you let Congress know,
1:13:14
that's equivalent to letting the people know. But it's just
1:13:21
not set up that way. So we'll see with the
1:13:24
incoming Trump administration if any of this is addressed, if
1:13:32
any more information is revealed. Donald Trump's also appointed I
1:13:37
believe Marco Rubio as Secretary of Defense, and Rubio has
1:13:47
shown quite an interest in UAP disclosure. So we may
1:13:57
get a little bit more information, but I think it's
1:14:00
I think it's gonna squarely land on. Yeah, we have programs,
1:14:03
we have secret technologies. There's no evidence that it's aliens
1:14:09
but there's still more secrets to this, more secrets, and
1:14:12
we'll get into more of those secrets in another episode.
1:14:17
But I'm gonna cover a couple news stories here, some
1:14:23
of which is related to the UFO alien phenomenon. But
1:14:29
how do you write a book? How am I supposed
1:14:31
to write a book when all this information is coming
1:14:34
out every single day? I can't even do a podcast
1:14:37
and cover all of it. Like I said, this is
1:14:43
two hundred and fourteen pages that I've only skimmed, like,
1:14:48
not even ten percent of it. Let's get to some
1:14:56
news on the other side of the break. Here be
1:15:00
listening to Ministry X on Fringe Radio Network.
1:15:15
Speaker 9: No no no no no no no now now now
1:15:26
now now now now now.
1:15:31
Speaker 2: Cut that off.
1:16:01
Speaker 9: This no no no no no no no no no
1:16:53
don't no no no no no no no no no
1:17:04
no no no no no no no no no no
1:17:18
no no no no no no.
1:17:37
Speaker 2: All right, we're back. Remember those uh goofy looking e
1:17:49
t alien mummies from Peru that Haimi Massan uh presented
1:17:55
before the Mexican Congress. Well, this story just came across
1:18:02
my desk from the Jerusalem Post. The mummies are back
1:18:08
and this time the Peruvian Congress is looking into it,
1:18:15
which is really funny because you remember all the memes
1:18:17
about these mummies that you take one look at and
1:18:24
determine that someone obviously threw this thing together. Peru's Congress
1:18:31
conducts hearing on alleged extraterrestrial Nazca mummies. Peruvian Congressman Harman Takuri,
1:18:42
a member of the Block Magisterial Party and the Culture Commission,
1:18:48
organized a public hearing titled quote three digit Beings of
1:18:53
Nasca unquote in the Congress of the Republic of Peru
1:18:57
to discuss the possible existence of extraterrestrials and the tridactyl
1:19:02
mummies or humanoids discovered in Nasca tridactyl meaning three fingered.
1:19:11
The hearing aimed to determine the veracity of perhaps the
1:19:15
most important finding in history, the tridactyl beings found between
1:19:20
Nasca and Pupa, according to Haimi Mussan, a Mexican television
1:19:27
presenter who has dedicated the last decade to demonstrating the
1:19:33
existence of extraterrestrial beings. Masan known for his controversial presentations
1:19:39
of supposed non human corpses in the Mexican Congress in
1:19:44
twenty twenty three, announced on social media that at the hearing,
1:19:49
a study will be presented about the three fingered beings
1:19:54
found in the Nasca and Palpa regions. He invited his
1:19:58
followers to join the discussion. In the Peruvian Congress, Congressman
1:20:03
Takuri has insisted three times on carrying out the public
1:20:07
hearing on extraterrestrials. He explained he insisted on holding this
1:20:12
hearing in the Peruvian Legislative Palace because he considers it
1:20:17
a place where all opinions must be debated, and stated
1:20:22
that all opinions, both in favor and against, will be respected.
1:20:28
Speaker 4: Period.
1:20:29
Speaker 2: When consulted by the press, he defended the public hearing,
1:20:32
affirming that quote the Congress must be a space where
1:20:36
all opinions can be heard. Takuri added that although he
1:20:43
is not a scientist, he hopes that experts will participate
1:20:46
to provide their analysis and assess the veracity of the
1:20:50
findings regarding these supposed tridactyl beings.
1:20:56
Speaker 14: Quote.
1:20:56
Speaker 2: I went to the University of Aika and and I
1:21:00
could see, let's say, the beings unquote, he stated to
1:21:04
Kuri indicated that his intention is not only to support
1:21:07
this theory, but also to promote tourism in the southern
1:21:11
region of Peru. Quote what interests me is to strengthen
1:21:16
a tourist corridor that these beings have their place of exhibition,
1:21:23
he explained to Canal n.
1:21:28
Speaker 15: To.
1:21:28
Speaker 2: Curi and his fellow party member Paul Gutierrez traveled to
1:21:33
Mexico to participate in the second public hearing for the
1:21:37
Regulation of Unidentified Anomalist Phenomena organized by the Chamber of
1:21:43
Deputies of Mexico. Both par parliamentarians were invited by Special
1:21:52
Deputy Sergio Carlos Gutieris Luna. According to Gutierre's Luna, the
1:21:58
trip served to gather more information on the topic as quote.
1:22:04
In Peru, investigations are being carried out on the mummies
1:22:08
and lines of Nasca. However, the authenticity of the so
1:22:14
called tridactyl mummies has been widely disputed by the scientific community.
1:22:20
In January twenty twenty three, the Institute of Forensic Legal
1:22:24
Medicine of the Public Ministry of Peru conducted an expert
1:22:29
examination of two small mummies of supposed extraterrestrial origin that
1:22:35
were seized at Jorge Chavez International Airport. The examination revealed
1:22:41
that the pieces were false, according to forensic expert Flavio
1:22:46
Estradra Moreno. Estrata Moreno explained that one of the skulls
1:22:51
belongs to a quadruped mammal from planet Earth and that
1:22:56
the bodies are made up of bird bones. It was
1:23:00
discovered that the elements are joined with modern synthetic glue,
1:23:06
disproving their supposed prespanic origin. The study concluded that these
1:23:12
bodies are quote constructions of very high quality. The doctor
1:23:22
and anthropologist Guido Lombardi, an expert in Peruvian mummies and
1:23:27
author of the Handbook of Mummy Studies, qualified Haimi Mussan's
1:23:33
recent presentation as quote part of an elaborate disinformation project. Quote.
1:23:40
You cannot forge a reality that does not exist. They
1:23:44
try to deceive the public and the scientific community. In
1:23:48
recent years, they have tried to stretch the story to
1:23:50
the maximum to profit from it until this house of
1:23:54
card falls unquote, he said. Lombardi has highlighted the case
1:24:00
of the so called three fingered mummies of Nasca reveals
1:24:05
the growing practice of hakkero in Peru. Hakkero maybe it's
1:24:13
juako Juakao refers to the illegal excavation of pre Hispanic
1:24:19
tombs to extract human remains and artifacts. There has been
1:24:24
evidence of the manipulation of authentic mummies to create figures
1:24:28
with an alien appearance, leading treasure hunters to seek more
1:24:33
bones to create new mummies for sale. Yeah, Jimi Mosan
1:24:40
doesn't really have the best reputation. It has been documented
1:24:47
that to a pre Hispanic adult sized mummy, two fingers
1:24:51
were amputated from the hands and feet to simulate a
1:24:54
three fingered structure, and additional phalanges were added to elongate
1:25:00
the extremities. These alterations seek to give a non human
1:25:04
appearance to the remains, constituting a distortion of Peru's cultural heritage.
1:25:12
Despite these findings, Congressman Takuri remains convinced of the authenticity
1:25:17
of the mummies. Quote the extraterrestrial mummies of Nasca are real,
1:25:25
he stated. When questioned about the scientific evidence disproving the
1:25:29
mummies authenticity. Toakuri said, quote, you're asking the wrong questions.
1:25:34
It's not about believing or not in the veracity of
1:25:37
the mummies. It's about having the preparation, knowledge and wisdom
1:25:43
to realize that they are authentic. If they aren't real,
1:25:48
why would a person or group of people take the
1:25:50
trouble to construct them in such detail. Why would someone
1:25:54
do that? Why would someone spend so much time trying
1:25:58
to deceive the scientific community. Well, I think they just
1:26:02
explain that above about the tourism. I mean, people perpetuate
1:26:09
hoaxes all the time for various reasons. There is concern
1:26:17
that such events could be exploited for financial gain by
1:26:21
those promoting the mummies to Curry dismiss these concerns, however,
1:26:25
emphasizing his commitment to advancing the discussion. Quote, I don't
1:26:30
care what others think, whether they are human or extraterrestrial.
1:26:34
The event is going to happen anyway, and it will
1:26:37
be held in the Congress of the Republic, he declared.
1:26:43
So scientific analysis doesn't really matter. What matters is if
1:26:47
you can make money off of it. And I think
1:26:53
pretty much everyone upon first glance of these mummies immediately
1:26:59
conclude that they were fake. What's funny and ironic, however,
1:27:05
is that, you know, in the United States, meanwhile, we're having,
1:27:09
you know, these hearings about UAPs and immaculate constellation with
1:27:21
a much higher degree of skepticism. But in Latin America
1:27:26
it seems they're very enthusiastic about the UFOs and the aliens,
1:27:32
but I did read headlines somewhere that these things are
1:27:40
going to be studied in the United States now too,
1:27:43
So stay tuned for updates on the fake mummies now.
1:27:53
In other UFO related news, this time from Foxsnooze dot com,
1:28:02
Pentagon solves one of its highest profile UFO mysteries. I'm
1:28:07
going to play this short clip.
1:28:12
Speaker 14: To Go Fast was captured the public attention and congressional
1:28:16
attention when it was made public in twenty seventeen. Looks
1:28:20
like an object flying very fast over the water, very
1:28:23
close to the water.
1:28:25
Speaker 4: Through a very careful geospatial.
1:28:27
Speaker 14: Intelligence analysis using trigonometry, we assessed with high confidence that
1:28:31
the app object is not actually close to the water,
1:28:34
but is rather closer to thirteen thousand feet. Diagram here
1:28:38
shows as the platform is flying and capturing the object.
1:28:44
If it is closer to the platform at a higher altitude,
1:28:47
a trick of the eye called parallax makes it look
1:28:50
like the object is moving much faster. And so we've
1:28:53
written a detailed paper on parallax, released that on our
1:28:56
website so that the public can literally check our math
1:28:58
on this analysis.
1:29:03
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is the famous Go Fast UFO video.
1:29:08
Now nowhere in this report do they indicate what the
1:29:13
object was, merely that it's not going as fast as
1:29:18
it appears in the video, and also it's not at
1:29:22
all as close to the water as it appears. So
1:29:26
I haven't actually gone to the aero website to look
1:29:32
at this, but let's read a little bit here. A
1:29:35
Pentagon official told Congress Tuesday that the agency has solved
1:29:39
a prominent UFO mystery from twenty sixteen, which showed what
1:29:44
appeared to be an object flying at a high speed
1:29:47
just above water. The object was recorded by a fighter
1:29:50
jet from the USS Theodore Roosevelt off the east coast
1:29:54
of Florida in twenty sixteen, and became known as the
1:29:58
Go Fast video when it was made public the following year.
1:30:03
The grainy, black and white video is from a fighter
1:30:06
jet's heads up display and eventually locks onto the object,
1:30:11
and the pilot can be heard shouting, oh got it,
1:30:16
Oh my gosh, dude. Doctor John Kozlowski, who you just
1:30:22
heard in the video clip? The director of the All
1:30:25
Domain Anomaly Resolution Office ARROW, which is tasked with investigating UFOs,
1:30:31
or what the Pentagon calls unidentified anomalous phenomena. UAP says
1:30:40
that the object was not anomalous or out of the
1:30:43
ordinary and hovering over the water, but was in fact
1:30:47
thirteen thousand feet above the sea. He said that the
1:30:53
phenomenon was caused by a trick of the eye called parallax,
1:30:57
which made it look like the object was moving much faster.
1:31:03
So apparently, if you want to see the detailed analysis
1:31:06
of this, you can go to the website. He said.
1:31:12
The object, which he did not identify, traveled in a
1:31:15
relatively straight riding trajectory with a slow curving descent near
1:31:21
the end of the analyzed video. Kazlowski also presented two
1:31:27
other resolved cases the Defense Department, called the Puerto Rico
1:31:32
objects and Mount Etna, the latter which was captured in
1:31:37
twenty eighteen from UAV flying in the Mediterranean watching Mount
1:31:42
Etna as it was erupting. He said he believed the
1:31:45
public was not familiar with it. Quote and it appears
1:31:50
that the object is flying through the plume of the
1:31:52
superheated gas and ash, Kazlowski said, quote this was a
1:31:59
rather difficult case to resolve. We had to pull in
1:32:02
support from a number of ic and s and t
1:32:05
partners and even reach out to a volcanologist, and through
1:32:11
very detailed remodeling and pixel by pixel analysis of the
1:32:15
object as it's traversing across the clouds, they assess that
1:32:20
the object was actually one hundred and seventy meters away
1:32:22
from the plume and not flying through it. He said
1:32:27
his office is still actively investigating cases with a quote
1:32:31
orange orb and a quote a metallic cylinder unquote. Kazlowski
1:32:39
was speaking in front of the Senate Armed Services Subcommittee
1:32:43
on Emerging Threats and Capabilities. The Department of Defense created
1:32:48
ARROW in twenty twenty two so military and government personnel
1:32:52
could report UFO sightings in one place. He said, ARROW
1:32:57
has quote not discovered any verified, liable evidence of extraterrestrial beings, activity,
1:33:04
or technology unquote. Because Laski said that, despite having resolved
1:33:10
hundreds of cases, his office does not believe that every
1:33:14
UAP is a bird, balloon, or drone. Quote, we do
1:33:20
have some very anomalous objects unquote, he said. It is
1:33:26
in contrast to Luis Alzando, the former head of the
1:33:30
Defense Department's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, who testified to
1:33:36
Congress last week that quote, we are not alone in
1:33:39
the cosmos and quote that a cabal of officials is
1:33:44
hiding the information. The a TIP was tasked with investigating
1:33:49
UAPs as we know, So is it just a whole
1:33:55
lot of nothing? Notice they don't explain what the objects
1:34:01
that are caught in the videos are, just that this
1:34:04
particular one wasn't flying through the plume of volcanic ash,
1:34:11
and this other one wasn't going as fast as it
1:34:13
looks like in the video. But we still don't know
1:34:16
what these things are, I mean in this case, and
1:34:23
so it's either a whole lot of nothing. It's ordinary
1:34:25
things balloons, or its extraterrestrials invading the planet Earth. And
1:34:36
you'd have to ask the aliens in fact, if the
1:34:39
Earth is flat or round spherical, and I'm sure they
1:34:45
could tell you, even though some humans can't seem to
1:34:50
figure this one out. If you recall the dispute between
1:34:59
pastor Greg Locke and Dean Odle, who had a debate
1:35:04
a flat Earth debate last year that was kind of
1:35:10
a joke. This is back in the news again, actually
1:35:17
going back to September. Let me read this final story
1:35:20
and then we'll get out of here. This is from
1:35:23
WSMV dot com. Wilson County pastor's home lit up by
1:35:30
gunfire overnight. Greg Locke is the founder and lead pastor
1:35:34
of Global Vision Bible Church in Mount Juliet. That's in Tennessee,
1:35:40
by the way. Now, in this truncated debate that they
1:35:45
had last year, Dean Odle was the guy that was
1:35:49
arguing for the flat earth and Greg Locke was the
1:35:53
pastor that was saying that it was a bunch of
1:35:56
nonsense and apparently had to fit and threw the guy
1:36:01
out of his church in true Christian fashion, let's read.
1:36:13
The Wilson County Sheriff's Office is investigating a shooting that
1:36:17
left a pastor's home riddled with damage overnight in Mount Juliet.
1:36:24
Gunfire erupted outside the home of Greg Locke late Tuesday night,
1:36:28
according to the WCSO Wilson County Sheriff's Office. Locke said
1:36:36
he returned home with his family and found his home
1:36:39
had been shot at by a quote madman. The Wilson
1:36:44
County Sheriff's Office said Locke's son was home at the
1:36:47
time but was not injured. Oh there's a video here,
1:36:51
let me play this, Sir.
1:36:55
Speaker 15: Greg Lock said, on social media that had he been
1:36:56
home with his family a minute sooner, they would have
1:36:59
come face to face with gunfire. The Wilson County Sheriff's
1:37:02
Office found thirty to forty shellcasings littered across his driveway
1:37:05
and multiple bullet holes throughout his property. Back in April,
1:37:11
it was a trailer of burned bibles. A month ago,
1:37:14
Pastor Greg Locke said the church was moving from Mount Julian.
1:37:17
Speaker 6: What happened at his house last night is horrible.
1:37:22
Speaker 15: Locke, who leaves the congregation at Global Vision Bible Church,
1:37:25
says he came home to a crime scene in his driveway.
1:37:28
Speaker 6: It's scary.
1:37:28
Speaker 2: You know.
1:37:29
Speaker 10: We live maybe a quarter mile from his house there,
1:37:32
and I have kids.
1:37:33
Speaker 15: Ben Conrad says around ten thirty Tuesday night, he was
1:37:36
locking up his home.
1:37:37
Speaker 10: It sounded like shots, but I assumed it was probably
1:37:40
some kind of weird backfiring of an engine.
1:37:43
Speaker 15: Those shots came from in front of Pastor Locke's home.
1:37:46
Wilson County Sheriff's deputy say no one was hurt, but
1:37:48
they found dozens of shellcasings and bullet holes.
1:37:51
Speaker 6: On the property.
1:37:52
Speaker 15: Pastor Locke saying in a Facebook post that from the
1:37:54
surveillance video he watched his family was a minute away
1:37:57
from serious danger.
1:37:59
Speaker 6: There had to be a million angels watching over him
1:38:03
and his family.
1:38:05
Speaker 15: Locke says his son was home at the time, but
1:38:07
thankfully it.
1:38:07
Speaker 12: Was not hurt.
1:38:08
Speaker 6: I mean, my heart goes out to his wife, his kids,
1:38:13
to him.
1:38:14
Speaker 10: You know, I hope it doesn't happen to anybody, and I'm,
1:38:18
you know, just thankful that they weren't there and everyone
1:38:20
was safe.
1:38:21
Speaker 2: For WSMB four, I'm Steve Maley. So was this some
1:38:27
flat earth madman that got mad at Pastor Greg Locke
1:38:33
and shot up his house? Were well? Or was it
1:38:38
related to something else that that quick report did mention
1:38:43
a trailer load of burned Bibles? So maybe this isn't
1:38:51
what we suspect that it is. And I'm not at
1:38:55
all saying that it was Dean Odle or his people
1:38:58
that carried this out. The Wilson County Sheriff's Office confirmed
1:39:04
Locke's home was hit by between thirty and fifty bullets
1:39:08
during the shooting. Damage was found to the exterior of
1:39:11
the home, to the vehicles parked outside, and some damage
1:39:16
inside the home. Locke said he thinks he just missed
1:39:22
encountering whoever shot up his home by mere minutes based
1:39:25
on his security footage at his property. Locke is the
1:39:30
founder and lead pastor of Global Vision Bible Church in
1:39:33
Mount Juliet. The church has been a target of vandalism
1:39:37
and widespread criticism in recent years over hard stances taken
1:39:42
by Locke and his congregation on social issues and associated
1:39:47
political campaigns. Locke just recently announced his church would be relocating.
1:39:54
The church often holds revivals that cause major traffic issues
1:39:59
for residences of Mount Juliet. So maybe someone's just mad
1:40:03
at the traffic, not getting dissed about their flat earth beliefs.
1:40:13
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