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One Piece, 588-591 · Spoil Me! One Piece

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  Speaker 1: This is an Unspoiled network podcast. This is spoil Me
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  Speaker 1: covering one piece episodes five eighty eight, five eighty nine,
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  Speaker 1: and five ninety one. We are skipping five ninety which
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  Speaker 1: is apparently some kind of crossover with Dragonball, which I
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  Speaker 1: am tempted to watch. Let's see the titles meeting again
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  Speaker 1: after two years, Loofy and Law the worst in the World,
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  Speaker 1: a Scientist of terror, Caesar and Chopper's Fury the Master's
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  Speaker 1: inhumane experiment. In these episodes, well, we find out that indeed,
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  Speaker 1: it seems like Caesar is a bad man and I'm
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  Speaker 1: disappointed in you, Travalgar Law. What are you doing here, buddy?
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  Speaker 1: What is this? Welcome to spoil Welcome to the show everyone.
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  Speaker 1: I am Natasha. Thank you very much to Florian for
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  Speaker 1: commissioning this episode. Yet, y'all, this was like, so okay.
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  Speaker 1: I've already talked about how upset and disturbing I find
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  Speaker 1: any sort of like medical experimentation storylines, and we are
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  Speaker 1: definitely going more into that territory than we did with Maria. Maria,
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  Speaker 1: this same issue that I had with this type of
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  Speaker 1: thing did come up, but it was so much more
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  Speaker 1: like fantastical and the whole method was really very almost
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  Speaker 1: PG because there's so little blood shed and there's so
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  Speaker 1: little like it seems genuine suffering happening. It's more like
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  Speaker 1: the outcome of having your shadow taken. That's the really
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  Speaker 1: bad part. But what you are put through in the
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  Speaker 1: meantime it didn't seem as like grim or gruesome as
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  Speaker 1: I was worried that it might be. However, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like what we didn't have in that storyline is what
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  Speaker 1: we are getting in this one. Ye, guys, I am,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't think I'm alone in this. I am
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  Speaker 1: always made very uncomfortable when I remember how much control
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  Speaker 1: chemicals have over my entire state of being. There is
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  Speaker 1: a story that got made into like a short Netflix
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  Speaker 1: movie and I can't remember if it was Spider Island something,
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, but it had I think Chris Evans
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  Speaker 1: weirdly in the lead role. And a major part of
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  Speaker 1: the storyline is this sort of experimentation of giving people,
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  Speaker 1: through an intravenous drip, drugs that dramatically change their emotional state,
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  Speaker 1: and you can make people fall in love with each
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  Speaker 1: other or suddenly lust tremendously after each other to the
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  Speaker 1: point that they can't control themselves. You can make people
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  Speaker 1: suddenly incredibly violent towards one another or fearful or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: And this person is testing out all of these drugs,
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  Speaker 1: and the people who are here have signed up for
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  Speaker 1: this experimentation, so it felt a little bit different to me,
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  Speaker 1: but nevertheless, it seems pretty clear that nobody was predicting
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  Speaker 1: it be as strong a change as it turns out
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  Speaker 1: to be. So that was something that kept occurring to
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  Speaker 1: me in this because jumping ahead in the last of
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  Speaker 1: the three episodes here, we eventually find out that the
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  Speaker 1: children have been purposely addicted to a stimulant and it
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  Speaker 1: has been given to them every day, So that my
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  Speaker 1: assumption is if they leave, they escape, the symptoms will
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  Speaker 1: be such that not only will they want to come
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  Speaker 1: back and get the drug that makes them feel better,
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  Speaker 1: but they will also have a possibly believe the story
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  Speaker 1: that they have been told of how they are sick
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  Speaker 1: and they were brought here as like a means of
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  Speaker 1: healing them. Because the kids here, it seems pretty clear
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  Speaker 1: not only they, but also Brown Beard, they're buying into
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  Speaker 1: this whole thing. You know that this is actually, oh see,
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  Speaker 1: we are sick. He was telling the truth and I
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  Speaker 1: can understand, especially with brown Beard, it's very clear that
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  Speaker 1: this like kind of cult like figure that Caesar has
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  Speaker 1: made himself into, it really would be difficult for people
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  Speaker 1: who have seen him this way for so long to
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  Speaker 1: turn a corner and realize that the dude is up
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  Speaker 1: to no good. But guys, this is something that I
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  Speaker 1: think I have such a strong reaction to, on top
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  Speaker 1: of the medical experimentation thing and the like creepiness of
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  Speaker 1: the type of person you would have to be to
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  Speaker 1: do this. That's like my number one part of it
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  Speaker 1: is Caesar Clown is listening through the door to somebody
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  Speaker 1: who is experiencing these horrifically painful symptoms. At one point
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  Speaker 1: it's the second of the two episodes, and is like
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  Speaker 1: smirking to himself and very like casually asking questions about
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  Speaker 1: how the guy is feeling. Do you also have headaches?
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  Speaker 1: This person is suffering terribly, and Caesar is not moved
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  Speaker 1: by it in any way, And that is part of
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  Speaker 1: what has always made me so creeped out is the
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  Speaker 1: to me, it's a really unfortunate realization as I get older,
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  Speaker 1: the number of drugs that I take that are hugely
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  Speaker 1: helpful to me and the way that they are a
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  Speaker 1: direct result of experimentation by people who do not have
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  Speaker 1: the same kind of empathy that I have. I recognize
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  Speaker 1: that to a degree, we do need those people, but
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  Speaker 1: there's a part of me that sort of feels guilty
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  Speaker 1: for like profiting, so to speak, by getting like a
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  Speaker 1: drug that helps me off of the suffering of other
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  Speaker 1: people or other animals. You know, it makes me really
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  Speaker 1: uncomfortable to consider. And like I said, I know that
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the time these sorts of like testing
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  Speaker 1: and like the people who care for the animals actually
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  Speaker 1: can have a lot of empathy and are very careful
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  Speaker 1: about it, but not always. And that I recognize that
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  Speaker 1: the medical field does tend to attract people who have
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  Speaker 1: lower empathy. It's like one of like the top three
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  Speaker 1: career paths for people who have more like sociopathic tendencies.
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  Speaker 1: So already Caesar Clown is like somebody that I feel
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  Speaker 1: afraid of because he just doesn't have a line where
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  Speaker 1: I have a line, and seems to really think that
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  Speaker 1: any knowledge that he gains from whatever he does is
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  Speaker 1: worth whatever it is that he sacrificed, which we eventually
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  Speaker 1: find out this whole island had been this like really
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  Speaker 1: lush sort of paradise and he destroyed it, and he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't even consider it a failure because in his mind,
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  Speaker 1: he just proved that he has this like incredible power
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  Speaker 1: over life and death. So actually it was a success
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  Speaker 1: of another kind. And so that is is my number
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  Speaker 1: one thing with this medical stuff is why it creeps
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  Speaker 1: me out, is like the people who do this sort
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  Speaker 1: of thing, it's not even necessarily that they are bad people,
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  Speaker 1: although I think in Caesar Clown's case, he is a
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  Speaker 1: bad person, but I think that a lot of times
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  Speaker 1: they are people who are genuinely trying to make the
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  Speaker 1: world a better place overall, and they just have the
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  Speaker 1: ability to set their empathy aside and see the big
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  Speaker 1: picture and focus on that at the expense of whatever
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  Speaker 1: is uncomfortable in their immediate surroundings or circumstances in a
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  Speaker 1: way that, like I said, I think is necessary but
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  Speaker 1: also makes me really really uncomfortable. And I think back
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  Speaker 1: to the ways that we used to like treat people
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  Speaker 1: who had mental illness, you know, or disabilities, and how
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  Speaker 1: they underwent some horrific things, and that a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the time that people doing those terrible things to them
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  Speaker 1: thought they were doing the right thing. And something about
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  Speaker 1: people being under the impression that what they're doing they
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  Speaker 1: are doing is correct morally is much scarier to me
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  Speaker 1: than somebody who is doing a thing because they know
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  Speaker 1: it's wrong and that's what they like about it. Does
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  Speaker 1: that make sense? Like a person who is a sadist
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  Speaker 1: and is like I like seeing you in pain? That
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  Speaker 1: is very frightening, But there is a certain distance from
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  Speaker 1: that that I can have where like, not many people
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  Speaker 1: are like that, we can all agree that that's a
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  Speaker 1: bad person. People who are doing things that I find horrible,
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  Speaker 1: but who really are trying to help and think they're
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  Speaker 1: acting morally correct. How do you like argue with that?
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  Speaker 1: How do you how do you cope with it? How
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  Speaker 1: do you defend yourself against it? You know? So then
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  Speaker 1: the second thing, like I started off saying, is the
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  Speaker 1: effect that chemicals can have on who we are as people.
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  Speaker 1: Always I find really like uncomfortable. I It's part of
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  Speaker 1: the reason. Growing up both of my parents were addicts,
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  Speaker 1: and one of my parents was actually a dealer. My
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  Speaker 1: father dealt cocaine. Both him and my mother used cocaine,
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  Speaker 1: and I saw my father ode when I was very young.
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  Speaker 1: And so I had it in my consciousness how much
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  Speaker 1: that kind of drug can take over your life and
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  Speaker 1: make you live in a way that objectively, if you
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  Speaker 1: stepped back, you would not want to be living this way,
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  Speaker 1: but that there comes a point where you don't have
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  Speaker 1: control over that anymore. So it took me a long
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  Speaker 1: time to ever even just try weed. And that's the
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  Speaker 1: only type of drug beyond like you know, antidepressants or
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  Speaker 1: birth control that I have ever tried is like edible
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  Speaker 1: marijuana and CBD and Delta nine and that sort of thing.
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  Speaker 1: I've never tried any harder drug than that because I'm
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  Speaker 1: still so afraid of it. But what resulted was that
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  Speaker 1: I decided instead that I would medicate myself with food
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  Speaker 1: because that felt safer to me, And ultimately I still
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  Speaker 1: wound up in a position where my health was imperiled
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  Speaker 1: and where I was on a path that I didn't like.
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  Speaker 1: That if I stepped back and looked at it, I
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  Speaker 1: would be like, I don't want to be here at all,
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  Speaker 1: and still felt like I had no control over myself.
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  Speaker 1: I just didn't foresee that that could happen with food
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  Speaker 1: the same way. So joke's on me. But the concept
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  Speaker 1: of drugs, being like the kids are being put in
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  Speaker 1: a place where they have just been rescued, and they
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  Speaker 1: are by the end of the third episode attacking their
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  Speaker 1: rescuers because they are so driven by the need for
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  Speaker 1: this drug. It feels really extreme in the moment, because
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  Speaker 1: they of course have like a super strength that goes
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  Speaker 1: along with this sort of breakdown that they have. But
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  Speaker 1: also this is with certain drugs, especially heroine crack. What
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  Speaker 1: happens it changes who you are as a person in
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  Speaker 1: such a fundamental way that even once you get clean,
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  Speaker 1: you aren't ever really the same person again. And I
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  Speaker 1: find it so upsetting that this is something that we
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  Speaker 1: have put out into the world, and also really frustrating
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  Speaker 1: when I run across people who do not have empathy
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  Speaker 1: for folks who struggle with drug addiction. I completely understand
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  Speaker 1: that there is a line that we all have to
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  Speaker 1: draw when you have family or friends who are struggling
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  Speaker 1: with addiction in such a way that it is affecting
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  Speaker 1: your life and they are dragging you down with them.
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  Speaker 1: I fully support cutting somebody off if you feel like
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  Speaker 1: you need to for your safety insanity. I'm not trying
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  Speaker 1: to say that that is an inappropriate response. But that's
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  Speaker 1: not really what I'm talking about. I'm talking about people
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  Speaker 1: who have contempt for those who struggle with addiction, as
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  Speaker 1: if they believe they themselves wouldn't act the same way
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  Speaker 1: that if they were in that person's position, they would
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  Speaker 1: be more in control of themselves, have more self respect
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  Speaker 1: or discipline. It's not about self control beyond maybe the
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  Speaker 1: impulse to try the drug for the first time. Once
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  Speaker 1: you try something like that, there is a chemical reaction
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  Speaker 1: that is unavoidable, and sometimes people will back away and
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  Speaker 1: be like, I recognize that this is a bad road
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not doing it. I have had a couple
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  Speaker 1: friends who did try heroin and were just like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that was too good. I am never doing that again.
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  Speaker 1: But that reaction still happened for them. And there is
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  Speaker 1: a type of situation and it's not even necessarily a personality,
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  Speaker 1: but it is a circumstance in life that some people
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  Speaker 1: don't have a way to get away from, and sometimes
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  Speaker 1: a type of pain that they are trying to escape
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  Speaker 1: that Folks who get really judgy a addiction don't really
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  Speaker 1: seem to understand or have any capacity for empathy regarding
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  Speaker 1: and there you know, as a child of addicts who
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  Speaker 1: eventually cleaned up and they both got sober and it
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  Speaker 1: was fine. I know that you can turn things around,
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  Speaker 1: but I also have seen how ugly that can get,
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  Speaker 1: and how dangerous for like anyone in your immediate vicinity,
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  Speaker 1: that can get, and the struggle that people who go
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  Speaker 1: through this kind of addiction have because they don't want
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  Speaker 1: to be in this either. So when, for example, at
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  Speaker 1: a Thanksgiving dinner with Owen's family, somebody said that they
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  Speaker 1: wished this guy had just like left his addict daughter
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  Speaker 1: locked in a trunk somewhere and let her die, because
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  Speaker 1: it would have been better for everybody involved. When I
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  Speaker 1: encounter those people, I don't know what to say to them.
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  Speaker 1: I sat there and stared at her open mouths for
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  Speaker 1: a moment, because I truly I had no words in
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  Speaker 1: that moment to express how disgusted I was, And she
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  Speaker 1: tried to make some excuse for herself, and I just
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  Speaker 1: looked away and decided I wasn't going to engage at all.
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  Speaker 1: I felt I had made my stance on it quite
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  Speaker 1: clear just the way that I looked at her and
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  Speaker 1: looked away, and any more would have escalated into quite
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  Speaker 1: an argument that we didn't need to have, because some
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  Speaker 1: people are just lucky and don't know how unlucky folks
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  Speaker 1: who wind up in the throes of an addiction can be.
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  Speaker 1: Both of my parents suffered abuse as children, molestation, beating,
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  Speaker 1: just all kinds of horrific violence of different kinds. For
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  Speaker 1: both of them. It is no surprise that they wound
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  Speaker 1: up where they did. And I'm not trying to say
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  Speaker 1: that that's a surefied road toward addiction, but it certainly
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  Speaker 1: causes a kind of trauma and pain that people try
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  Speaker 1: to escape from. It is more likely and if you
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  Speaker 1: grew up without having gone through certain types of battles,
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  Speaker 1: you just don't understand the urge to drown yourself so
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  Speaker 1: that you don't feel anymore, you know. So I know
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  Speaker 1: that this is like a real heavy way to start
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  Speaker 1: this episode. I'm just I found it so upsetting when
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  Speaker 1: we eventually get to the point where we're understanding what
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  Speaker 1: was done to these children, because it's not that far fetched.
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  Speaker 1: And drugs being used to control people is a tried
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  Speaker 1: and true method of evil people, whether it be the
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  Speaker 1: United States government flooding crack cocaine into black communities, which
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  Speaker 1: they have admitted they did that was a purposeful effort
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  Speaker 1: to bring down an entire race of people because they
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  Speaker 1: knew that drug was what it was, which is almost
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  Speaker 1: a perfect storm of self destruction. Or whether it be
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  Speaker 1: human trafficking and abduction and getting people hooked on a
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  Speaker 1: drug so that they will continue to let themselves be
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  Speaker 1: exploited so that they can continue to get the drug
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  Speaker 1: that they need. This is real, and it, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: is often not treated as the weapon that it is.
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  Speaker 1: It's just seen as a moral failing of the person
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  Speaker 1: who is addicted. And it's the same feeling as I
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  Speaker 1: get when people are blamed for their own poverty. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you don't know what a person's life is, what choices
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  Speaker 1: they had, And it's very easy to say that you
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  Speaker 1: would have made better choices because you had better choices.
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  Speaker 1: What did they have? You have no idea, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And there was a book that I covered way back.
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  Speaker 1: I covered Parable of the Talents and Parable of the
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  Speaker 1: Sewer by Octavia Butler, and the second book was so
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  Speaker 1: disturbing to me because of a description of drug use
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  Speaker 1: that was used to keep basically slaves in line. That
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  Speaker 1: they were fitted with callers that could inject them with
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  Speaker 1: something that caused pain if they disobeyed, or could inject
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  Speaker 1: them with something that caused intense pleasure if they were
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  Speaker 1: behaving in a way their owner wanted, so that they
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  Speaker 1: would continue to try and please their owner even more
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  Speaker 1: in order to get hits of the drug. Which that
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  Speaker 1: thought of being driven to try to please a person
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  Speaker 1: who is who holds that kind of power over me
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  Speaker 1: is so repugnant. But also, I know very immediately possible
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  Speaker 1: in our present, even though that series is set in
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  Speaker 1: the future, that is something that is accomplished now, and
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  Speaker 1: it's just impossible for me to really divorce what's going
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  Speaker 1: on here with what I know has been and is
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  Speaker 1: still going on in our real world. And it was
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  Speaker 1: sort of interesting to me that we're getting into this
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  Speaker 1: thing with this addiction with the children and these what
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  Speaker 1: do you call it, the stimulants, because we just got
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  Speaker 1: off of this whole thing with Hordy taking the drugs
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  Speaker 1: that made him stronger and more powerful and YadA YadA.
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  Speaker 1: And despite the fact that they all become withered and
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  Speaker 1: it seems to have eaten away at their lives, by
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  Speaker 1: the time we see them later, they have aged dramatically.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like they were desperate for more of
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  Speaker 1: the drug. There was no real withdrawal in terms of
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  Speaker 1: a mental desperation. They clearly like would want more of
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  Speaker 1: the drug to pump themselves up again. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: whether that would have worked. You know, by the time
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  Speaker 1: Hordy and his friends are in jail and they have
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  Speaker 1: withered to old men, it's possible that even if they
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  Speaker 1: were given another dose there was, it would have no
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  Speaker 1: effect on them, or it would have a much more
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  Speaker 1: muted effect because of the way that they had aged.
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  Speaker 1: But I was sort of wondering if we were going
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  Speaker 1: to get anything that was a little bit more specific
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  Speaker 1: about how addiction works, because it didn't feel in that
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  Speaker 1: storyline that Hordy was going after more drug because he
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  Speaker 1: just desperately needed it exactly like they do have some
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  Speaker 1: moments of him being weaker and wanting more of it,
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  Speaker 1: but it wasn't like a compulsion. It felt much more
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  Speaker 1: like I need my strength back because I have to
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  Speaker 1: keep going with this takeover. Like the drug was a
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  Speaker 1: means to an end. The drug was not the end itself.
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  Speaker 1: So I think it's really interesting that now we are
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  Speaker 1: getting into a storyline that has to do with a
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  Speaker 1: very specific type of addiction, and I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: an accident that Oda has made the victims of this children,
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  Speaker 1: because it's a lot easier for people to have sympathy
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  Speaker 1: with little kids who have been fed a drug against
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  Speaker 1: their will and without their knowledge and been put in
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  Speaker 1: a position of becoming addicted than it is to sympathize
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  Speaker 1: with somebody who took a drug to gain power and
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  Speaker 1: wound up addicted in a way that they weren't expecting.
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  Speaker 1: So it almost feels like Corty's storyline gave Oda an idea,
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  Speaker 1: and then he realized that, like Hordy and his friends,
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  Speaker 1: were not the proper storyline to use to demonstrate the
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  Speaker 1: point he came up with, so he decided to sort
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: of set up a second thing and have it be
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  Speaker 1: a whole new approach so that he could explore this
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  Speaker 1: kind of chemical addiction without the judge that we would
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  Speaker 1: ascribe to villains, you know, innocent children. It's just a
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  Speaker 1: completely different ballgame. So yeah, I really this is just
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  Speaker 1: a really sad, like we still don't really know what
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: it is that the kids are, how they're being experimented on,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: because it doesn't seem to me that the stimulant itself
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: is the experiment. It seems like the stimulant is the
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: means to control the children, and that eventually we you know,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: like we have them try to run away, or we
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: have them who knows what, and we have this drug
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: in place that we know they're going to need more of.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: So it winds up in like becoming a kind of experiment.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: But that wasn't the point, and I don't know what
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: it could be. Like one of the little girls says,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: we used to all be normal sized, so evidently the
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: experimentation must have to do with making them bigger, but
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I don't really know how, like to what end. I guess,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: you know, is it just for so that you can
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: have giants to order for a private army or something.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: By the end of these episodes, we come across a
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: giant footprint in the ground, which leads me to believe
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: that there are some children who grew up and are
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: somewhere on this island giant sized, and have they just
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: been like let free or was that footprint supposed to
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: be one of the cool brothers because they are meant
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: to be very large. But I don't know how many
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: experiments Caesar has done so all right, I'm sorry, I
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: know that, Like like I said, it was a heavy
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: start to this episode, and I still feel I had
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: to talk about it this way. I just don't know
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: what Oda is going to be doing with this, and
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: it's possible that it's not going anywhere like the place
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: that my mind goes. But you know, part of the
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: reason that y'all commission things is so that you can
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: hear my reaction and perspective. And I can't ignore the like,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: gut visceral response that I have to things like this.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: It's part of my whole understanding of the world, and
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: so it can't be avoided that I talk about it.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I also, like I said earlier in the intro, trevalgar
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Law is evidently a part of this, and I just
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: wanted to think so much better of him, despite the
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: fact that he, like you know, took a bunch of
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: fucking pirate hearts to become a warlord. I can very
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: much rationalize to myself that probably they were bad men.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: You know, there are plenty of pirates out there. We've
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: met very few other pirates who are good hearted people
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: like the straw Hats. Most of them have been very bad.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: So it's easy for me to just be like, ah,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Trafalgar took their hearts because they were all bad, bad
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: men who needed to be punished and whatever. And I
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: now that I have seen what's going on with these children,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: it's either like he is being lied to. I maybe,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: like I said last time, the reaction that he has
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: to hearing all of these kids makes me sort of
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: think that he didn't know about the experimentation on children.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: But if even if he didn't know about that experimentation,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: I can't help but feel like you have to know though,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: that Caesar Klown was experimenting period. Just because it's not
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: children doesn't make it excusable. I don't know. I really
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: don't know what to make of it. And also the
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: fact that, like so, he stole the hearts of a
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: bunch of pirates, But from what we see with Smoker
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: later on, they're okay, probably out there functioning in the
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: world with their just weird cube hole in their chest
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: from where he took the heart away. It doesn't seem
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: like they actually stop you from functioning or kill you
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: or anything like that. So even without explaining away all
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: all the men that he stole hearts, from were bad men.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe they weren't even that harmed by this. You know,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I really don't know who can say. Maybe we'll run
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: into one of them eventually and find out. So all right,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: let's uh, the moment that Lofy sees Trafalgar Law, he
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: calls him traffy, which I don't remember if that was
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: a thing before, But you guys, that cracked me up
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: so bad. And as far as Lufy is concerned, he
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem to care at all what side Trafalgar Law
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: is on at the present. He is much more coming
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: at this from the angle of I owe you because
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: you saved my life, regardless of what you're doing now,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: that is a debt that I can't just you know, ignore.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: And so whatever it is that Trafalgar is going to
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: ask from Loofy, I guess Lufy is going to give
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: him unless it, like the involves harming the children. I
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: just feel very uncomfortable with not knowing where Trafalgar fits
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: in all of this, with the fact that Lufy feels
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: indebted to him. You know, it's just really like red
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: flaggy for me right now. Just hey, Lufy, maybe don't
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: tell him how much you owe him and stuff repeatedly
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: yet until we're more certain what he feels about this
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: situation and how involved he is. Also, I will admit,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: because I have a really hard time keeping track of
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff. Guys, that Trafalgar Law being
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: a war lord, I guess was supposed to mean, was
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: supposed to be like a bit of a shock that
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: in the past two years this is a new development.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I'll be real honest with you guys and tell you
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: that I had no memory of the fact that he
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: wasn't already a war lord. I could have sworn that
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: he and I just I think that there's just a
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: place that I put kind of higher level players in
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: the game, and warlord, I forget, is like a specific
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: ranking within the function of the government and the Marines,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: And so I think of the warlord as just being
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: you have a certain power level or you know, you
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: have a certain influence or whatever, and I forget that
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: it's like, no, you actually had to be approved by
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: the Marines and get clearance essentially, So apparently this is new.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: But like I said, I just want to be very
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: upfront with you guys and not pretend that I realized
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: this was new. So eventually to Shi is like running
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: over to Smoke who has collapsed on the ground. Smoker
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: is really out for a few minutes, and I was
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: starting to doubt my assertions from the previous episode that
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: he was likely going to be okay and started to wonder,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: you know, like, oh, really, is this what we're doing?
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Like is he actually hurt? But no, not only is
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: he evidently not hurt, but what travalgar law does. He
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: does a scramble between Tashii and Smoker. Now, y'all, I
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: really need Oda to answer for some things here. I
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: am so sorry, but it feels like the shambles is
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: just an excuse to linger on the titties of the
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: female characters. We have got Sanji in Nami's body, so
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: he is just constantly exposing her and agreeing with Brooke
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: to show her panties and take pictures in the mirror.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: He's talking about how like they need to find someplace
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: with a camera. It's so creepy. And then we have Smoker,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: who he himself just sits around with his fucking like
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: jacket undone. So once he is in Ta Shigi's body,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: he just does the same thing, and it doesn't matter
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: that she's got titties on display, and she doesn't seem
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: to object to it either, which I did find interesting.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Like Namy, every time Sanci tries something, she is hyper
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: aware of the fact that he is crossing a line
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: and violating her privacy, but he doesn't really seem to
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: take issue with Smoker, And even when all of the
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: men are like lusting after her and being like this
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: is so uncomfortable, but also I like it. Both she
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: and Smoker are just yelling at them to focus, but
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: they don't. She doesn't seem upset at the exposure of
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: her body. It's more just the fact that the men
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: are so distracted by it. I just I was really,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: you guys, I was really looking forward to just the
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: you know bit with people being in different bodies and
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: seeing them behave weirdly. And now I sort of have
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: to walk back my delight in this plot device, because
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: it feels now like we've got just an excuse to
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: expose the bodies of female characters. And when Smoker is
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: on camera, the way that it lingers on the titties
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: for a long time while he is talking, it was
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: really un conscionable, like come now, I'm I'm there, comes
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: a point where it's like, is this allowed? Like how
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: is this a children's show? I know it's not strictly
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: children's children, but you know what I'm saying, like this
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: is starting to veer into a territory that I think
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: we might need to recheck that rating. So anyway, I
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: just had to address that because with Sanji being in
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Nami's body, I was already kind of feeling a way
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: about this, and then when it was like we were
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: doing a similar thing with Tashigi, I got very irritated.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: It's just a different tone because it's not a purposeful
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: thing on Smoker's behalf. But it's also bizarre that she
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: doesn't ask him to not do this. I can't help
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: but feel we can't have ta Shigi put him an
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: argument about it with him, because if she did, Smoker
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: is the type that I think would acknowledge that maybe
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: this was not okay. You know that maybe he would
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: understand why she's uncomfortable. But as long as she doesn't
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: object personally, and as long as it's just the men
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: who are distracted by these titties, then it's then it's fine,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: and he can just yell at the men and it's
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: not something that he himself needs to do anything about.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Really really weird dynamic on that. So see, I'm trying
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: to jump ahead here because there's a lot of like
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: that sort of business going on that I feel like
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: I can skip over pretty easily. Oh right. We also
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: find out eventually that our samurai friend is a devil
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: fruit eater and can apparently like make clothing appear. This
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: was a very I don't know what to think of this,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: because he doesn't exactly say it's only clothing. He says
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: one day, I ate it fruit, an unusual one, and
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: since then I have been able to disguise myself and
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: others as I please. I know little of foreign clothing.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: I hope this will suffice. Also, due to the nature
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: of the magic, the clothes will disappear once you remove them.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: So saying that I can disguise myself and others, that's
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: a very specific statement, which feels like almost mister two
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: more than anything. And I don't think that it's supposed
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: to be. I think the disguise is really meant to
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: be a literal physical disguise and not an actual transformation
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: of people's features. But I just wanted to mention that
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: that is a vague enough description that potentially there are
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: other things that he could pull out of his hat
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: that we won't be ready for. And I am really
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: curious about that. But yeah, so, and it takes him
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: like so long to actually do this, despite the fact
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: that they're out here freezing their nuts off and like
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: they're in the you know, trying to Eventually somebody asks him, like,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: what the fuck, and he admits, yet again, I just
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: wanted to see an omious titties. I couldn't bear to
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: cover them up. Oh my god, y'all, please, somebody come
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: and tell me that things of this nature eventually calmed
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: down a little bit. This show has always had a
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: very like male gazy, kind of sleazy vibe in this regard,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: but I feel like the past couple arcs it has
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: been amped up a lot, and I don't like. I
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: don't know, Maybe it's just me, I don't know, but
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: it feels to me like we are getting a lot
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: more more of it than we did. It's a lot
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: more like a main part of the storyline rather than
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: it just being something goofy that Soanji's doing off to
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: the side. Like Sonji's health has been in danger because
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: of it. Now it's not just him like drooling over women,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: it's him literally having blood loss that has to be
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: addressed in the plot because of it. So I'm starting
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: to lose my patience with it. I'm not going to
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: lie to y'all. I just just you know what I said,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Somebody tell me that this isn't what it's going to
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: be like I if you can't tell me that it's
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: going to chill out, I am willing to just accept
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: the warning that this is going to continue, But just
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: give me a heads up on what to expect, because
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I am trying to just like sort of let it
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: wash over me and let it go. And as soon
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: as I can to a point where I feel like
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I'm starting to let it go, another thing happens, like
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: two things happen right on top of each other, and
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: I start to be like Jesus Christ all over again.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: But anyway, so let's see where are we going to? Oh? Right,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Eventually our samurai friend finds his legs because they re
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: encounter Loofy and he is so happy. And once he
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: finds out that Brooke has run across his torso he
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: runs off, and this is what leads to our group
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: getting split up yet again, because Sanji feels responsible for
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: this guy and knows he has no way to defend himself.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: So if he comes up against any dangerous creature out there,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have arms to hold a sword, there's nothing
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: to be done. He's only going to be able to
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: run away. So Soanjy and Brooke head out, and eventually
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: No chimes in, and she says that somebody else has
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: to go with. I can't even remember now who she says,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: but it's clear that she does not trust Sanji and
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Brooke alone together with her body. She does not like
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: this development at all. Oh right, she said Zorro, because
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: if Zorro and Soanji are fighting and arguing, they will
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: be too distracted to worry about her body. And actually
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: that was a pretty good thought. I thought that was
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: a smart way of dealing with it as much as
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: she can deal with it. But I'm sorry I'm jumping
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: around so much, you guys, But like I have touched
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: on a lot of the thing because like so much
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: of these three episodes is like repeated issues or conversations
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: about the body switches people's reactions to that, like the
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: stories about what's going on with the Master, So we're
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: going to like talk about that next because brown Beard,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: who is really feeling a way about being used as
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: a horse. Essentially, he tells all of the straw hats
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: the story of everybody like suffering from this toxic gas
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: and how Caesar came in was able to get rid
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: of the gas and also give medicine to people who
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: were suffering from it and save them, and how much
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: everybody owes them, and he is attributing the explosion that
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: happened that caused this whole island to just get I
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: don't know how to like decimated. No, that means something's
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: specific with ten percent or something, but it doesn't like
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: get vaporized. You know, it's all the life on it
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: almost but I don't really know how to describe it.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: But the explosion itself, he is saying that was doctor
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Vegapunk and that the Master then came in and began
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: to help everybody, and I couldn't help at the time,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: think like where did he come from? Though? How do
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: you know he didn't do it? And once we're back
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: with Caesar Clown, it's clear that explosion was him, and
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: so basically brown Beard is giving him credit for healing
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: people who are suffering because of something he also did,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: which that it's the sort of thing that like you
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: run across on Twitter or some other cesspool social media
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: site where men will try and act like women should
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: be grateful that they gave us the right to vote,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: and it's like, y'all took it. What do you mean
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: we had to fight to get it back. You didn't
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: give it to us out of the generosity of your hearts.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: You took it unfairly, and then after years of struggle
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: and oppression, grudgingly allowed us to vote despite trying to
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: keep it from us. You don't get credit for that.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: So that was sort of what I was feeling with
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: brown Beard, is like he is out here just being like, oh,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: look at this wonderful man and all the great things
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: that he did, And even after everything with like the
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: children's reaction to having the withdrawals, he is still not
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: willing to believe that the Master as he calls him,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: did anything wrong. He is really buying into the idea
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: that this is god to be just a misunderstanding, that
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: this is a drug they were being given to keep
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: them from being ill, like he told them, they are
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: sick and see this is just proof of that. But
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: he isn't asking any further questions about where Caesar Clown
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: came from, why did he find this island and decide
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: to help, Where was he before this? It's all being
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: blamed on doctor Vegapunk, who I think the story is
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: supposed to be that, like Vega Punk was killed due
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: to this failed experiment, And we keep running across these
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: weird places where Vega Punk has been and then left
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: behind like a very sort of strange situation, laboratory, whatever,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: and I keep assuming that Vega Punk is dead, and
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: then we go on to another location where he has
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: also been. So my assumption now has to be that
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Vega Punk is indeed alive and that we're going to
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: meet him eventually, We're going to come across him. But
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: I really don't know what to expect, because you guys
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: know that like at first, when I saw Caesar Clown,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: I kind of thought he was Vega Punk, that something
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: happened to him as a result of a failed experiment.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: And once we start the story about the explosion, I
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: started to again think, is that is Caesar Clown Vega Punk?
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Is it a different name for the same person after
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: he has gone through this like terrible thing with this
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: experiment that changed his body into this weird flame. Is
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: he now going by a new name because he has
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: sort of lost his sense of self. But it doesn't
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: seem like that's the case. It seems like they are
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: two distinctly different people. And we even see later on
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: that Caesar clown has got sort of a human form,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: so it's more and more likely that instead of him
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: just being in this weird flame body, he is actually
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: one of the Logia type devil thruit eaters and can
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: transform into this you know, sort of cloudlike thing, or
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: he can have a regular body and regularly like because
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: you know, he'll turn it. He's still got like bits
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: of himself sort of floating out, but he has got
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: black hair and this weird white face with a wide
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: mouth that was is it's really like kind of joker ish,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: and he has hands with gloves. I'm not sure if
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: the gloves are a permanent thing or if it is
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: you know, supposed to be part of him being in
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: this laboratory, but yeah, we see him here like being
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: asked by one of his people who has come back
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: to him to please help because I am, you know,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: feeling really ill after everything that happened with the straw hats,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, yeah, I'll give you some medicine.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. So this dude takes it, and
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: it well, he takes it. It seems like the medicine
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: is meant to be a gas and maybe that's what
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Vega Punk's not. Vega Punk Caesar Clown's body is made
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: out of his like poison gas. Perhaps it could just
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: be a result of the experiment gone wrong. We could
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: be doing a sort of like Marvel Villain situation. I
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: don't know yet, but the medicine is like locking this
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: guy in this tank and pumping whatever the gas is
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: in there until the dude is begging to be let out,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: and he's asking him, like, are you seeing anything weird?
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: And he says that there's a giant snake. And when
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: he says that, Vega punk, because like I keep calling
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: him that, I'm sorry, guys, Caesar Clown. He asks, are
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: you seeing anything with a sort of like vibe of
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I hope you are, Like I would really like to
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: know what it is that you're seeing. But when he says,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: I see a giant snake. Caesar says, oh, well, that's
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: too bad, all right, that's enough, goodbye now, and he
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: just presses this button that shoots all of this like
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: gas up through a chimney on the outside. I couldn't
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: tell if this was him just killing the guy or
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: venting the gas, because the experiment didn't work and the
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: guy is still in there alive. I don't really know
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: what is supposed to have happened there, but it seems
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: to me that he wants this gas to induce hallucinations,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: but that the snake isn't the thing he was going for.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: And I don't really know what it could be that
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: he wants so anyway, and there's the moment where we
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: have in Tashigi's body, we have Smoker talking about how
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Vega Punk was the one blamed for the explosion and
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: the chemical weapon. When Caesar Clown's involvement came to lay
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: after the explosion, he was arrested, but using his formidable ability,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: he escaped from a prison ship and his location has
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: been unknown since. If my suspicions are correct, and Caesar
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: is back here on this island conducting experiments, we have
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: to stop him. So evidently Smoker is aware, and I
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: would like for him to go and inform Brownbeard so
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: that that man can stop worshiping the Master as some
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: sort of hero. And it's so funny to me the
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: way that this is like set up, because when brown
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Beard tells the story to the Strokes, of like the
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: way that Caesar Clown showed up, they immediately just begin
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: to fawn over the Master and sing his praises instantly
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: and be like, what an amazing man. And the fact
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: that they keep calling him the Master is so uncomfortable,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: you guys, I really do not like it. Look, it's
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: very cult like, which y'all know that's gonna make me uncomfortable.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Like cult stuff is always wild to me. I fully
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: understand how that mindset can be fallen into. I really
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: get it, you know. I love Beyonce in a way
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: that some may argue verges on the cult like. But
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: it is weird how immediately they all are just like, oh,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: obviously this dude is some saint like savior, and it
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: makes sense that the people who are doing are the
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: ones that are the most gullible, like us Up and Chopper.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: But I did kind of want I think actually it's
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Chopper and maybe Sanche. I think maybe it's us up
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: that kind of is like, actually, we don't know enough
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: about this guy. Somebody chimes in and essentially tells them
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: to calm the fuck down. They are getting way too
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: enthusiastic when they don't know the whole story. So it
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: didn't go completely unremarked, but I was sort of laughing
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: because clearly what we were trying to do there was
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: set up that everybody believed the story brown Beard told,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: so that once we start to understand the real situation,
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: it would be a totally different energy and we would
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: see that crack in their faith the same way that
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: we would with brown Beard. But it just doesn't really
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: totally work for me. Having brown Beard here is enough.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: I don't need the straw hats to also like drink
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: the kool aid, so to speak. But yeah, So the
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: way that the second episode ends is Caesar clown saying that, like,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: none of the useless idiots in the world government know
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: what they're talking about. A failed experiment. I developed a
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: weapon that killed an entire island. How is that anything
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: but a success? I proved myself the most efficient killer
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: in the world, didn't I? And when he you know
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: what I'm realizing. He like sort of backs away from
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: the camera at this point, and we see the black
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: hair and he's got this sort of weird like yellow
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: and black stripee. I'm not sure if that's a jumpsuit
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: or if it's like tights with like a tunic over it.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: He's also got horns and his rope, for lack of
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: a better word, says gas gas on it, so I
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: guess it's the gas gas fruit. I maybe that's what
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: it is. But yeah, he says, soon it'll be my
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: day and they'll know I'm the greatest scientist who ever lived.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: And that is how the second episode of the three ends,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: while his green bird lady is just over here taking
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: notes utterly ignoring him, which I found fucking hilarious. She
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: just doesn't pay any mind to him whatsoever. And I
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: kept waiting for her to chime in because he's sort
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: of yelling at her, you know, Like the scene starts
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: with him she says that this experiment he just did
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: with this guy was another failure, and he's like, how
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: dare you? So I kind of thought she would eventually
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: be like, well, you know what I meant, or even
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: sort of be like I'm so sorry to have offended you.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Of course you're the best, you know, like whatever. But
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: instead it's just her continuing as if he kind of
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: does this sort of like flambuoyant drama queen posturing every day,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: a few times a day, and she has gotten so
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: used to it that she barely hears it anymore, like
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: she has learned to completely tune him out. And I
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: think that is very funny and almost makes me want
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: her to be like our main villain and not him,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: because it is too like the idea that he really
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: fancies himself the genius and maybe she's the one that's
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: like the brain's behind the operation. I would be fully
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: willing to buy into that notion. You know, she seems
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: a little bit more in control of herself. That's all
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. This guy is unhinged, clearly. So all right,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: let's jump into the third episode. And I've talked about
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: most of this already, so I'm not too worried because
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: I'm out of time. But most of the stuff that
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: we have that I've talked about, the only thing that
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: we eventually get into is that Frankie in Childpper's body
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: transforms without intending to. So there's a whole thing where
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: he's just like this big fur ball that the kids
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: are rolling around, and then the samurai having run off
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: and them having to figure out what they're going to
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: do about the uh the you know, the fact that
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: he can't defend himself after he has helped them, And
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: then we start to get into the kids suddenly taking
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: ill and beginning to collapse, and the description of the
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: candy and how they would get it at the same
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: time every day, and Chopper manages to take a test
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: of their sweat and finds trace elements of this like
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: this uh not steroid stimulant. So there was something about
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: this that I wanted to mention. Oh my god, I
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: forgot about Robin because Frankie keeps talking out of Chopper's
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: body and Rob at one point it's just like, please
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: do not speak. Do not speak again, because you are
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: freaking me the fuck out. And I did think that
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: was very funny. Yeah, So this kid the one who
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: first started to go into withdrawals when Lufy tells him,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: because at first Lufy is like, you need that candy,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: I'll go get it for you, and Chopper has to
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: come in and be like dude, no, you can't go
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: and get that, that it's going to make everything worse.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: They have to learn to live without it. That we
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: have to like let them detox. Essentially, the kid tells Lufy, like,
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: you fucking told me you would go and get it,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: and he starts to change. His face gets really red,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: his eyes start to get bloodshot, and he gets the
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: strength and just throws Lufy into like a cliff wall,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: and he picks up a pipe and begins throwing it.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Like he begins to really kind of lose it, and
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: eventually all of the kids start to have a tantrum.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: Like I don't really even know what to call it,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: because they are going into withdrawals, but it's also very violent,
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: which withdrawals I guess they can be. But that's not
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: the typical reaction that you hear about. Usually it's sort
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: of disabling. And eventually Oosup pulls out a sort of
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: for his what do you call it, the slingshot. He
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: pulls out something that sends all of the kids to sleep,
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: so that for now they are going to be able
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: to detox while they are unconscious, And like Chopper is
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: really really upset over the fact that this was done
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: to these fucking children. Chopper, by the way, is still
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: in Sanjy's body, but Chopper says, we have got to
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: do something. These kids want to go home, Like we
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: have to figure out a way to get them out
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: of here, and Lufy is like, well, we have to
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: just put them on the ship and get them home,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: and Chopper is saying like that, we can't just waltz
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: out it here. That's not how this is going to work.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: And Robin points out we don't actually know what could
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: happen if they don't get more of that drug, Like
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: we have got to track down whoever is responsible for
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: this because taking them away actually could wind up being
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: really dangerous for them, which was a good point. So
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: the episode ends with brown Beard thinking like I'm still
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: I still believe in you, Master, with Soanjy, zorro and
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Brooke going to try and rescue the the samurai and
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: help him, and with Caesar clown like crowing over it
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: like the heart that, oh my god, Trafalgar brought him.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: He is so excited to have it again. Trafalgar, what
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: are you doing? What are you doing? Like, even if
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: you don't know about the children, you're handing this fucking psycho.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: This guy's heart. What do you think is gonna What
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: do you think he's gonna do with it? Uh? And
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: Caesar says, I have a plan to get rid of
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: the straw Hats and retrieve the children. Watch, those brats
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: will beg to come back. We won't even have to
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: lift a finger, you'll see. And La just says hunh
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, come on, dude, really this
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: is the extent. He says it might be overkill, but
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: I am sending the Snow Mountain assassins after the crew.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: And it says in the subtitles the Snow Mountain, my
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: loyal Minions, the yetty cool brother And we don't actually
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: see their faces. They we just sort of see, like
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: the silhouette from behind, and then eventually we get a
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: color look at them, but it's still from behind, and
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: they just have like a lot of white fur going on,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: and they're talking about how easy it will be to
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: deal with the rest of the straw Hats. And we
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: see Brooke, Nami and Sanji all or no, Brooke, Sanji
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: and Zoro. Sorry, I'm getting Namy and Sonji confused because
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: the body switch they're already knocked out on the ground
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: and the brothers are like, yeah, we'll be able to
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: handle them, no problem, and we'll do it in a
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: cool way. He says, we'll do it in a cool way,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: and I fell out laughing so loud, you guys. I
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: don't know why that got me so hard, but it
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: was just such a funny way to say it so literally.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: It felt like a six year old you know. I
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: really enjoy that. So anyway, Okay, I have to wrap
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: this one up over time, but I enjoy these. I
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: just this this storyline is kind of disturbing, you guys,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: It really is, so I hope we get some things
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: resolved soon. All right, Thank you again to everybody for listening,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: and until next time to the Loo motherfuckers. That was
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: an Unspoiled Network podcast.