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When innocence is targeted: The alarming rise of child exploitation · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

• 0:27
  Hello and welcome to Don't Imbibe the Kool-Aid.
• 0:30
  I'm Kim Kennedy and I'm the host of today's program.
• 0:33
  We are thrilled to be part of the America Out Loud Radio Network.
• 0:37
  And today we're going to be asking the question: is your child next?
• 0:42
  One in 10 students face sexual misconduct by teachers.
• 0:46
  Texas Elementary Case highlighting highlights nationwide grooming crisis.
• 0:51
  And folks, this has been going on for some time.
• 0:55
  And I'm very, very excited to have Emma Sarah McMillan with us today.
• 1:00
  She's got a lot of information to share with us.
• 1:03
  We're going to have a very interesting and in-depth conversation.
• 1:06
  She is the founder of the Mother of Change Foundation, a nonprofit dedicated to empowering struggling mothers, strengthening families, and protecting children.
• 1:16
  She also does some other stuff, but we're gonna uh divvy up uh the different things that she's doing in the various segments.
• 1:24
  So Sarah, good day and welcome.
• 1:26
  Uh, we're so glad that you're with us today.
• 1:29
  Thank you for having me.
• 1:30
  And I'm I'm excited to be here because I really feel that this segment is gonna be very empowering for a lot of families who need to hear this information.
• 1:40
  Yes, I I believe that I think there's a lot of um non-information out there or just not enough information.
• 1:48
  Let me give a little bit of background about this case in San Antonio.
• 1:52
  A San Antonio elementary teacher was arrested uh recently for the continuous sexual assault of a child after a now 20-year-old former fifth grader detailed years of alleged grooming, including favoritism, explicit videos, truth or dare kisses and abuse inside the classroom.
• 2:11
  Police are actively uh looking for more victims.
• 2:15
  Um we know, Sarah, that this is not an isolated case.
• 2:19
  Research consistently shows that approximately one in 10, and I've heard one in four K through 12 students will experience some sort of sexual misconduct by a school employee before graduation.
• 2:31
  Many cases involve grooming tactics identical to those uh we just mentioned, yet teachers often remain in classes for years.
• 2:39
  Sarah, why is that?
• 2:41
  Kids don't tell.
• 2:43
  The number one reason why this continues on.
• 2:45
  The number one reason why they are still in the positions that they're in is for a long time, kids are taught about stranger danger, and they're taught about, you know, when I'm sure you remember in our day, it was don't take strange or don't take candy from strangers.
• 3:02
  That was how we were raised.
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  And we're always looking for the big bad boogeyman, but that's not the case.
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  I mean, it is those who we know, like, and trust who are the perpetrators.
• 3:14
  And what we have to understand is you're mentioning some of those numbers there, and one in four is and this is a generalized term because we have to remember not all kids tell, but they're saying one in four girls, and it's they're saying one in 13 boys.
• 3:28
  And I've heard a couple of different nuances, but in general, they're saying if you got boys and girls in a room together, it's gonna be one out of seven combined, boys and girls, you know, uh co-ed, one in seven kids.
• 3:41
  I beg to differ.
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  I just have down the down the row after years and decades.
• 3:48
  I'm talking, I've been studying this for decades.
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  We are in, I'm using this term very distinctly.
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  We are in an epidemic right now of children being violated, of children being attacked, um, abused, um it is really egregious.
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  Just uh last year, I believe, or maybe it was a couple years ago, the number was 460.
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  It was just under half a million kids were report, excuse me, were reported missing.
• 4:16
  And so, yes, some of those kids are abducted, some of them are runaways, but we do know that that high number of children who ran away are because they're being abused at home, or they don't have a good home life, or maybe it was a foster care family.
• 4:30
  And then what happens is those direct children who didn't have a good home support to begin with, and that's how they ended up in foster care, now are left on the street and they are just getting picked off left and right.
• 4:42
  So education is really important in being aware of their surroundings for sure.
• 4:47
  Well, this is really sobering stuff, and I don't think uh enough attention uh is consistently, you know, you'll hear about it and then it disappears.
• 4:56
  We need to consistently be talking about this.
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  Um, do you have a profile on the type of kids or do or do they come from all types of backgrounds who end up in these situations?
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  Vulnerability is number one.
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  A child who is vulnerable, a child who is not getting the care or the love uh that they deserve or require.
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  It are it are it is the children who are uh, you know, yes, we talked about the foster care kids, but a lot of times it is the kids at home who don't have a good relationship with their parents.
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  So they have both parents at home, maybe, or maybe they have a single mom that's at home, but that mom and that said child have a broken relationship, and maybe the parent is working two jobs or super busy and not taking the time to connect with their child.
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  And so vulnerable can also be a kid who's in a really great family.
• 5:47
  Um, you know, when I say great, they're taking care of, they're fed, and they have you know decent-ish relationships with their moms, but they are there's a disconnect in the security factor, and parents are dropping the ball because these same families that you know the kids are doing well, but they're also being given a phone, which is literally a portal to hell.
• 6:06
  It's a portal to every single predator on this earth at a beckon, you know, at the beck and call at a second at a drop of a hat, any one of these kids who, you know, so like I said, maybe you see that the connector here is you have a kid from a good home, you have a kid from a foster home, but at the same point, there's something that connect connects them all.
• 6:27
  And most of them have a phone.
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  I'll say that is a connecting factor between no matter what their socioeconomic background is, no matter where they live or where they're from.
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  The number one proponent I would say is that a cell phone is you know indicated in the abduction or what is going on with these kids, and even for, and this is what we have to understand as well is that this is not just trafficking.
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  That's a problem, but it's also just the fact that the number of predators is on the rise.
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  I'm talking uh men and women and children are now.
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  Now, when you have the hunters being in every realm in an exponential way, mothers, fathers, children, literally hunting children, then it is it's crazy out there.
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  When you have the hunters being in every realm in an exponential way, mothers, fathers, children, literally hunting children, then it is it's crazy out there, and it's a dangerous, dangerous uh, you know front that we're at right now.
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  And it's a dangerous, dangerous uh, you know, front that we're at right now.
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  So we need to deal with that.
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  So we need to deal with that.
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  Emma Sarah, I have thought for some time now that um it parents should do whatever they can.
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  Emma Sarah, I have thought for some time now that um if parents should do whatever they can.
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  And today there are so many alternatives.
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  And today there are so many alternatives.
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  That was one of the best things that came out of COVID.
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  There are so many educational alternatives than to public school.
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  And I'm a big advocate on saying get your kids out of those schools.
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  But um, I agree a thousand percent about the phones.
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  And it sounds to me what you're saying is that these people who go after kids, recruit them.
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  Sounds like some of them are pretty well organized, pretty sophisticated.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  They are.
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  And I just actually finished some training, and that was for child rescue.
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  So when we talk about organized, there are some extremely articulated, organized uh groups, whether it's cartel or people who are in the we we see Epstein like perfect example.
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  Okay, Epstein is like the echelon of the epitome of uh, you know, the detailed of trafficking.
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  They're they're they're professionals, okay.
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  They're covering their tracks, they know who to pay, and they're working with the law enforcement officials, they're working with the politicians.
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  So you have the different echelons of trafficking, and then you have the garden variety trafficker who is on the street who is uh in prostitution, a pimp, okay.
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  Pimp is doing trafficking as well.
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  So there's different segments of you know the profession of trafficking, and that is really important.
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  Those numbers are mostly going to be involving a lot of the those kids.
• 8:56
  I told you those vulnerable kids uh that are being left by the wayside.
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  My goal right now, Kimberly, and I don't want to diminish that because I think that's very important.
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  I think that building strong relationships with your children, building open communication, not giving your children a phone.
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  These are all ways that we can protect our kids from being trafficked.
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  But I also really want to with the segment, I absolutely have to hit home that this is not just trafficking.
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  There are some people who don't want to make any money whatsoever hurting a child.
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  They don't want to make any money.
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  Okay, they're just doing it for their sick pleasure to violate a child, and they're everywhere right now.
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  Uh mind-blowing, really mind-blowing.
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  And um, it breaks your heart.
• 9:41
  And uh, you know, you just have to say first and foremost, and I I bring the spiritual realm into it because it's a critical part of it.
• 9:50
  Um when you live in a world where God is being rejected in some quarters of it.
• 9:56
  There's going to be results, there's going to be people who okay, that God-filled uh vacuum isn't being fulfilled through a relationship with him, they're gonna look through it to other means.
• 10:06
  And it, you know, in that we have a sin nature that we're born, it it is what it is.
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  Um the heart is deceivedful above all things and desperately wicked who can know it.
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  God knows us.
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  We he knows the depths of witness we can go to.
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  So this isn't a finger wagging, they're so evil.
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  Um, we we gotta deal with it at the root.
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  And I know you agree with me, Emma Sarah.
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  We have to put it out there that there's a tremendous need for repentance and for turning to the Lord.
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  And uh this nation desperately needs this at this time.
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  If do you want to add on to that?
• 10:41
  Yes, I mean, at the root of it, it is always gonna be a spiritual problem, always.
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  It's gonna be light versus dark.
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  And what do children represent, Kimberly?
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  What do they represent?
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  They represent the most precious innocence on this earth.
• 10:55
  They they represent light.
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  Uh that's why the Lord said to, you know, beware of anybody coming against one of these little ones because you better, you know, what put a noose around your neck and go into the deepest sea because that's what you're going to be dealing with if you come against with the little ones.
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  And it's because they have joy.
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  Um we talk about the scripture says that we're supposed to have faith like a child, we're supposed to have that childlike faith.
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  Why?
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  Because it's pure and it's innocent.
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  And so the fact that the enemy is coming so hard, and it's not that you know, child molest it's just awful.
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  Okay, it's not that child molestation is new whatsoever.
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  Okay, this has been going on for eons, uh, but it's the pervasiveness, it is the exponential growth, it is like I'm using the term hunting purposely.
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  It's a fact that kids are now being hunted widespread.
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  And when I'm saying hunted, I say that specifically because we're at the point right now where if a mom is at the store with her child, before it was like, oh, you're not going anywhere without me.
• 11:53
  No, now it's even if a child goes to the store with the parent, we're getting they're getting their their kids taken from their hands.
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  So I'm saying they're being hunted.
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  Um, I've seen various cases where uh where a mom is actually shopping, whether it's with the, and not always is it a stroller, but sometimes it's like a three-year-old, it's a small child.
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  And I've literally saw not just a mom, uh a father wrestle or his daughter who was a toddler.
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  Um, I don't know if it was like a train station or something, but I saw him, you know, they were doing a little tug-a-war with his daughter and some other people had to intervene.
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  But that is where we're at right now.
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  This is not just, oh, in the bad neighborhoods and in, you know, the ghetto.
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  No, this is in high-level places, it's everywhere.
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  And I'm thinking as you're talking, um, you you really have to think through when you go to an amusement park.
• 12:46
  Uh, when you go to um uh a concert, I mean, you don't want to be paranoid, but on the other hand, I mean, when I was a kid growing up, and I'm not that old, but this stuff never was an issue.
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  I used to walk my neighborhood.
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  I used to, you know, go wherever, and you know, we were always told be careful and be home by a certain time.
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  But those days are gone, is I think is what I'm hearing from you.
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  You know, this is an important topic, and it is near and dear to my heart, and I'll tell you why is this with the immense amount of research I'm doing.
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  It still was going on there.
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  I know that it was going on there.
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  There is um a site that I follow, and it is tell somebody, if you guys want to do some research, uh, it's on Facebook.
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  If you want to really come into the know and get the blanket taken off your eyes, uh the veil, so to speak, is go to tell somebody, and you're going to see that this has been going on for decades.
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  The only difference is is that kids were not telling.
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  And I've always said this.
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  So you think that a child will tell their the likelihood that a child will tell it is very, very small and in between.
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  They're first of all, they're told if you say anything, we're gonna hurt your family.
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  If you tell anybody, we're going, you're not gonna be believed.
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  Be believed.
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  Um, I'm the best coach, I'm the best uncle, you know, there nobody's gonna believe you.
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  I'm the best coach.
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  I'm the best uncle.
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  You know, there nobody's gonna believe you.
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  Uh, there's a shame, guilt.
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  There's a shame, guilt.
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  This wasn't my fault.
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  This wasn't my fault.
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  You put this on.
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  You put this on.
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  You tempted me.
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  You tempted me.
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  I would have never done this if you didn't come in to the living room looking so cute.
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  I would have never done this if you didn't come in to the living room looking so cute.
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  So, whatever it is, they're brainwashed.
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  So whatever it is, they're brainwashed.
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  Children are brainwashed and they're not telling.
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  Children are brainwashed, and they're not telling.
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  I will say this though, the hunting part that is new.
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  I will say this though, the hunting part that is new.
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  Okay, that is new.
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  Okay, that is new.
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  Uh, they weren't not that they've never been hunted.
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  Uh, they weren't not that they've never been hunted.
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  That's what the trafficking is.
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  That's what the trafficking is.
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  They go, they take the people and they're they're robbing.
• 14:27
  They go, they take the people and they're they're robbing people off the street, right?
• 14:32
  So that is one thing.
• 14:33
  But I'm saying the fact that you're going to a park, you're going to a training station, and their kids are, you know, you're having to wrestle for your children in these places.
• 14:41
  That's a different level.
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  So as far as like children being hurt, you know, it was more uh within the family realm.
• 14:49
  It was more like an uncle, a grandfather, uh, and it was hush hush, it was on the side, and it wasn't being sold to 10 other people, you know.
• 14:58
  Right now, the the situation is that people are hurting children.
• 15:02
  It's the same thing, it's still the same family members, but now they're inviting other people to the party, and it's it's happening a lot.
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  It's egregious.
• 15:11
  Yeah, I wish I could say I was surprised, but I'm not.
• 15:14
  And uh there's reasons for that because first of all, I I tell people to become media dropouts, and you might be thinking, what in the world do you mean by that?
• 15:23
  You you personally have to be really careful about what you yourself are reading and watching and listening to.
• 15:32
  Right.
• 15:33
  I grew up in a time in America where TV was quote unquote safe, you know, Mayberry RFD and remember the dinosaur age.
• 15:41
  But today, look at some of the commercials.
• 15:46
  I mean, you you just you you really have to have alternatives in place for your family if you want to protect their hearts and minds.
• 15:55
  Uh, with the we got about a little over a minute, uh, Emma Sarah before our first break.
• 16:00
  Your thoughts.
• 16:02
  Yeah, I think that it's been well, first of all, not think I know this has been going on for a long time.
• 16:08
  It is progressed and it is to the point right now where if we don't do something about it, and if we don't shore up our homes, if we don't train our children, if we don't teach them that this is within this woman, I do want to say this 87% of kids, if they just said no, their perpetrator wouldn't continue on.
• 16:28
  And this is just a stat that has been studied that just teaching a kid to say no or to fight it off, you know, to not be an easy victim.
• 16:35
  In other words, don't be docile, be loud, run, say no.
• 16:40
  Uh, because a lot of times it is somebody that they know like and trust.
• 16:43
  They don't want to get in trouble.
• 16:44
  So the adult doesn't want to get hurt or found out.
• 16:47
  So the perpetrator is looking for a willing party.
• 16:50
  They're looking for somebody who's easy and who's going to keep silent.
• 16:53
  The moment a kid starts fighting when they're gonna try something, is the moment they know this is not the best target.
• 16:59
  And it sounds like uh parents need to be trained on how to prepare their children in this day and age, ignoring it and thinking this will never happen to me is the wrong way to think.
• 17:09
  That's right.
• 17:11
  Well, folks, we are talking with uh Emma Sarah McMillan, and um, she is tackling head-on the uh issue of uh uh child sex trafficking and um child abuse in public schools and elsewhere.
• 17:27
  The this is a huge problem that is not addressed enough, but we are up against a break, so we do have to stop right now and we'll get back to you shortly.
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  Welcome back to Don't Imbibe the Kool-Aid.
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  And we really strongly urge you not to.
• 20:19
  And today's conversation is another reason that you really need to pay attention, not only to what is being said, but to what is not being said or not being said enough.
• 20:32
  We're talking with Emma Sue McMillian.
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  And in addition to her work with Mother of Change Foundation, I'm going to get into talking to her about she's the creator of the change system, a transformative network that helps families break generational cycles and build strong, value-driven homes.
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  Her journey into advocacy deepened her during her time as director of women's and child shelter, where she would disperse tan the devastating devastating challenges facing vulnerable families.
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  Sav devastating challenges facing vulnerable families.
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  So let's uh break into that a little bit uh and tell us uh give us more information about what the change system is and why you started that.
• 21:04
  So let's uh break into that a little bit uh and tell us uh give us more information about what the change system is and why you started that.
• 21:13
  Well, thank you.
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  Well, thank you.
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  It is Emma Sarah, just in case they get confused and look up Emma Sue, but it's Emma Sarah.
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  It is Emma Sarah, just in case they get confused and look up Emma Sue, but it's Emma Sarah.
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  But I will say this the change system started off because my mom was only 14 when she had me in the ghetto of Los Angeles, and we had.
• 21:20
  But I will say this the change system started off because my mom was only 14 when she had me in the ghetto of Los Angeles, and we had to break some chains, and in order to do that, we had my mom had to become a mother of change without knowing it, and now the Lord showed me that that was part of the process.
• 21:38
  So a mother of change is a chain breaker and a change maker.
• 21:42
  So it was natural for me to come up with the change system because I also have a book that's 400 pages, it's called Becoming a Mother of Change.
• 21:51
  And so the change system is also in there, but change is an acronym, an acronym, and just I mean, I go very deep in the instruction of it, but just super easy for you today is C is being cognitive of your surroundings.
• 22:06
  A lot of people are busy.
• 22:08
  We see people on the phone, and they are just so disconnected with life.
• 22:13
  Just think of being cognitive as being plugged in, it's being present, okay, present in the moment wherever you're at.
• 22:20
  It's easy to say, but not simple to do because we just get you know on our gadgets, and that's what we do.
• 22:26
  So H is hearing the voice of God.
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  We need to hear, we need to stop, we need to pause, and we need to ask God for discernment.
• 22:35
  A lot of times there are people in our life that we don't know are unsafe, but God knows, and you're never gonna be able to hear unless you tap into that.
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  So H is for hear the voice of God, and then A is be aware of your children.
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  Okay.
• 22:50
  So if a child is like every time they go to Auntie and Uncle's house, they start screaming, I don't want to be with Uncle Tom, you know, I don't know, like, and you're like, just go, Uncle Tom loves you, and you're not being aware of the surroundings, you're not being aware that that child feels unsafe there, then that's a problem.
• 23:09
  So awareness, and they all kind of overlap each other, but notice and notice the signs.
• 23:15
  If your child is getting a lot of bladder infections and they've never got bladder infections, they're having sleep paralysis, they don't want to go to sleep with the light off.
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  All these are indicators.
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  Um, you have to notice, and then uh next is gee, you have to gear up for the battle.
• 23:32
  Some moms just don't know, and that's okay.
• 23:34
  You but you can be trained, so you gear up and so you go to clock classes, like we have our situational awareness class that we're gonna be having here locally in Alabama, and then we're going to make it available online.
• 23:45
  But you gear up, you take a situational awareness course, you get some tools so that way you know what to do, what to look for.
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  And then after you've geared up, you go to E, which is engage.
• 23:56
  After you know what to do, you know the signs, what's going to happen is you're gonna be now at the park and you're gonna see a child, or you're gonna be uh around a school friend of your child, and all of a sudden you're gonna notice sign.
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  Maybe the mom hasn't been taught.
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  So now that you've been geared up the bottom the battle, you can now engage and say, you know what?
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  I took this situational awareness course, and I just want to tell you some tips.
• 24:17
  I've noticed a couple of things, and I just wanted to bring it to your attention.
• 24:20
  You're now then engaging in the battle.
• 24:22
  And so that's just a synopsis of the change system.
• 24:26
  That's amazing.
• 24:27
  And that, you know, yeah, it's for parents, but I think it's for all people.
• 24:31
  So we become this is so practical.
• 24:34
  I love it.
• 24:35
  So it's not just talking about the problem, it's here's solutions.
• 24:38
  Here's here's how to become more aware.
• 24:40
  Here, here's how to become preventative.
• 24:42
  And um, I'm sure we'll be talking about how we um uh how we uh help those who are already in a cycle of abuse, right?
• 24:53
  And um it's a community problem, and we all need to be involved.
• 24:56
  And I think that also includes Sarah, I don't know if you get into but exposing the abuser.
• 25:01
  And uh in some situations, it's tough because we have found that the people who are abusing are from all walks of life.
• 25:09
  You know, it's not you tend to think of a crummy pervert scumbag.
• 25:13
  No, no, no.
• 25:14
  Like I've read police officers, judges, teachers, as we see.
• 25:18
  It happens in the church uh uh Emma Sarah, it happens, you know.
• 25:23
  Yeah, unfortunately, we have to report that it's difficult too, but it must be discussed.
• 25:28
  But you know, to me, this is it.
• 25:30
  Like it shouldn't be difficult.
• 25:31
  Once once the barrier has been crossed, I mean, if you're not sure, then I understand that you have to take measures and you have to make sure.
• 25:39
  But if you're sure, it should never be a problem to turn somebody in.
• 25:43
  I don't care who they are, how much you love them, if they're a family member.
• 25:46
  I mean, it's breaks your heart because you're disappointed.
• 25:50
  You know where I'm coming from, Emma Sarah is read like a year ago, I read a report about the Southern Baptist Association, the country's largest uh Protestant uh society, and um there's a number of abusers in their church, and they've been there for years and they ignore it.
• 26:09
  They they pass it on, and it's why uh I don't understand that no, that that is extremely common, extremely common, especially within the realms of the church.
• 26:22
  It is that is to be probably the most disappointing is when somebody who is in leadership in a church, it's supposed to be a safe place, it's supposed to be a place where God resides, his presence resides.
• 26:34
  And being that the scripture says that it would be better to put a millstone around your neck than to offend one of the little ones, right?
• 26:43
  They know they absolutely have full knowledge.
• 26:46
  I mean, everybody really knows, but they are accountable.
• 26:48
  I guess we'll put it that way.
• 26:50
  James 3, first chapter says that a leader is in the church more accountable than just a lay person.
• 26:56
  And so if God's word says that and a leader hurts a little child and they're not being held accountable, now those leaders who did not hold that guilty party uh responsible and accountable are gonna have to answer to God for that.
• 27:11
  And so it's frustrating, but God will not be pleased with that, and he will not be mocked in his word is true.
• 27:17
  So I just want to encourage anybody who's listening.
• 27:19
  If you're covering up for somebody who is a predator, who is a molester, who has uh been a serial molester, then I want to just caution you to repent and to get back right with God and do the right thing because that child is precious and something has been stolen that will never return to that child.
• 27:38
  So we need to really consider the child more than the guilty adult, as far as you know, who cares if we hurt his feelings or we smear his names.
• 27:45
  He shouldn't have, or she or she, because it's both.
• 27:48
  They shouldn't have done it in the first place.
• 27:51
  Very well said.
• 27:52
  I appreciate you speaking out uh and being very direct and to the point.
• 27:56
  Um, as we're speaking, I'm wondering in the change system.
• 28:00
  System.
• 28:01
  Um, can you give us an overview of what uh a class looks like?
• 28:01
  Um, can you give us an overview of what uh a class looks like?
• 28:06
  You know, I'm not asking to recreate it, but give us an outline of what something like that would look like.
• 28:06
  You know, I'm not asking to recreate it, but give us an outline of of what something like that would look like.
• 28:13
  So on the we have a situational awareness, and then we have the change system.
• 28:13
  So on the we have a situational awareness, and then we have the change system.
• 28:18
  So the change system is more on, you know, it's not just awareness because it's dealing with motherhood.
• 28:18
  So the change system is more on, you know, it's not just awareness because it's dealing with motherhood.
• 28:24
  So they're gonna be a little bit nuanced because we will be talking about protection, but the change system is.
• 28:24
  So they're gonna be a little bit nuanced because we will be talking about protection, but the change system is also uh married together with how a mom conducts her household, and the fact that even building standards and structure within a household, that is one way that we can safeguard a lot of people miss that, but even just the small little nuances where it's not like strange or danger, we're not thinking about predators, we're literally just creating a standard, we're creating a safety, where we're creating boundaries for our children.
• 28:54
  Like this is a boundary.
• 28:55
  We don't have like my family, my children don't have phones.
• 28:58
  That is part of our standard, it's part of our rule.
• 29:00
  Why do we do it?
• 29:01
  We do it because I tell my kids this.
• 29:03
  If you guys are writing notes, anybody remember this, okay?
• 29:06
  I tell my children this.
• 29:07
  I trust you, I don't trust Satan.
• 29:09
  And because I don't trust Satan, you can't have a phone.
• 29:11
  Okay, because then it's not a lot of times people will put it on their children.
• 29:15
  I don't trust you.
• 29:16
  I don't want to tell a child those kinds of things, okay?
• 29:20
  Because I don't want them to think, well, I'm trustworthy my whole life, so I might as well do untrustworthy things.
• 29:24
  Let's not label them.
• 29:25
  Let's label the issue, which is Satan is the issue.
• 29:29
  He's a the father of darkness, and he wants our kids to get into dark places on phones.
• 29:33
  So it's uh so it's more like creating uh health systems, parenting systems.
• 29:38
  That's the change system.
• 29:40
  But then our one voice uh for children, that's that course of situational awareness that is going to get into the nitty-gritty parts of grooming, protecting social media, trafficking, those types of things.
• 29:57
  It's going to be really more dedicated towards the uh predator side of being careful as a parent.
• 30:04
  When you look at the way that kids get enticed through these devices, are you impressed and not in a good way impressed about how they do it?
• 30:14
  Is it pretty good?
• 30:15
  Is it pretty deceptive?
• 30:16
  Could could do Yeah, I you know, it's to be honest with you, it is so elementary and it's so you have the the fact that it's happening is it's I mean, I I will can't use any other word except that it's crazy that it's happening because it is so easy for a grown man who's in his 50s or 60s to pretend he's a 12-year-old just by simply putting up a picture and then you know, using some jargon of a 12-year-old, and then easily, okay.
• 30:50
  It is so easy for somebody, like I said, I don't want to I keep for the women are up, their women are up as predators.
• 30:56
  So I don't want to discount, I don't want a mom to think, oh, I'm gonna leave them with the woman because the woman is safe.
• 31:02
  No, I'm sorry, but the women are just as guilty right now as a man.
• 31:05
  But I will say it is very easy to bamboozle children online, teens online.
• 31:12
  It is very easy to just put the wool over their eyes.
• 31:14
  They're so trusting.
• 31:15
  I had an adult, an adult friend, okay, an adult friend, and he wasn't violated, but his whole money was drained.
• 31:25
  His whole Sammy's account was drained over somebody on WhatsApp, and he's an adult, he should know better.
• 31:31
  And when I found out that he was talking to the situation, or I had a red flag.
• 31:37
  But by the time I was when I heard everything, I'm like, if you would have just told me about this conversation, I would have told you red flags everywhere, but the whole account was drained because he thought he was in a relationship with the long distance woman.
• 31:50
  So when I'm saying this is not even just kids, I've taught can everybody wake up and let's be a little bit brighter.
• 31:55
  Let's be on our guard.
• 31:56
  Let's understand that it is super easy to lie online and just be whoever you want to be on the other side of the keys.
• 32:03
  And Masara, if people want to find out more about this change program, sounds like it would be appropriate for a church setting.
• 32:11
  Oh, definitely.
• 32:12
  Well, I mean, excuse me, for a civics group, this is something that I have I would contact my state representative and say, hey, you need to check this out.
• 32:21
  This should be, you know, people need to be made aware of this in the community that this is available.
• 32:26
  How do they um contact you?
• 32:29
  Or is there a website they should go to to find out more about that and to get this book and look through it themselves?
• 32:36
  Yes, if they go to emissara.com, they can find out all of our information there, and that'll kind of just segue into the Mother of Change Foundation and our TV shows and all the things that we're doing, whatever's new on the queue will be on MSR.com.
• 32:49
  That's excellent.
• 32:50
  Really good.
• 32:51
  Um did a little commercial of our own there, but uh positing back to our conversation.
• 32:58
  I um, you know, it's a it's uh such a heavy topic, but you give very practical solutions and awareness sounds to me like is the number one tool that you would want to communicate to be people, be aware you've given us really good tips on what to look for.
• 33:18
  And uh, are there um hotlines that it can be reported to?
• 33:22
  How do what do people do with that information that they have a suspicion?
• 33:26
  Because you have to be careful about accusing, you have to be careful about how you uh share your concerns if they're if there's like something that you've observed and you you you're making notations and writing down and you know, you you have a concern about a teacher, uh Sunday school teacher, somebody in their life on a repeated basis.
• 33:45
  What what do you do then?
• 33:47
  So there is a national center for so if you feel like a child is being uh exploited, there is a national center for miss uh for missing and exploited children, National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
• 34:03
  That is a one that's widely used, and they will deal with anybody who is exploiting a child or you feel like they're being groomed to be trafficked, they're there is they're the people that I would call.
• 34:15
  And then, you know, when it comes to I have people contacting me, a lot of times they don't know what to do.
• 34:22
  So the number one thing is to sit down and have a conversation with the child.
• 34:27
  And so you're you definitely want to get information from them and sit down and get to the heart of the situation.
• 34:34
  Uh a lot of times people are seeing things, but they don't really know.
• 34:38
  So they see things going on.
• 34:40
  I it's happened to me where I'm like, I think that little child could be in danger.
• 34:44
  But the first step is just having a conversation where you can get information, and then when you go to, I would say right now, that would probably be the hotline I would give you for that one.
• 34:54
  Um if it is a family member, it's a little bit different because you're you know, CPS could get involved in that, but unfortunately, I have lost trust in CPS.
• 35:00
  CPS could get involved in that, but unfortunately I have lost trust in CPS.
• 35:06
  So I would say before you contact CPS, I would look into the safety of your CPS because I hate to say this, but there are some regions that are their CPS is known for trafficking children.
• 35:06
  So I would say before you contact CPS, I would look into the safety of your CPS because I hate to say this, but there are some regions that are their CPS is known for trafficking children.
• 35:18
  So I would do your due research about that.
• 35:18
  So I would do your due research about that.
• 35:21
  And then if they have a question about it, because they find out that their area is not safe even in that area, then they can contact me and I can give them some resources for.
• 35:21
  And then if they have a question about it because they find out that their area is not safe even in that area, then they can contact me and I can give them some resources for sure.
• 35:30
  And then I will also be putting some more resources on the emissara.com here shortly so that they can actually have some numbers to choose from.
• 35:38
  Okay.
• 35:38
  And repeat that website again, please, Emma Sarah.
• 35:41
  It's National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
• 35:45
  And your website?
• 35:47
  Emma Sarah.com.
• 35:48
  And there's no H E M M-A-S-A-R-A.com.
• 35:54
  All right, folks.
• 35:55
  I hope you're in a position where you can uh take notes, write this down.
• 35:59
  This is information.
• 36:00
  If you don't need it, we all know someone who does because it is extremely prevalent and very dangerous.
• 36:06
  Um we have uh two minutes left before we have to take a break.
• 36:10
  But you know, some people might be thinking, my gosh, you know, how do you protect your kids when you're in public?
• 36:15
  Do I buy a chain and couplings and chain of two years?
• 36:19
  That's what I was thinking earlier.
• 36:20
  I thought, wow, that's really extreme, but seriously, that right.
• 36:24
  That is that's a that's a fair concern.
• 36:26
  And I would say that's a very fair concern.
• 36:28
  And just because I just mentioned the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, I wanted to give you this number really quick.
• 36:35
  Uh, there were over 20.5 million cyber tip line reports in 2024.
• 36:40
  20 million.
• 36:41
  So don't be, I wanted to share that because I don't want people to be afraid.
• 36:45
  So it's not just somebody you know.
• 36:47
  If you see something online and you see that grooming is going online, you can use that number as well to protect other kids that you may not even know.
• 36:55
  You just know that there is a predator online.
• 36:58
  You can also call them for that.
• 36:59
  Okay, so that's a little commercial for them.
• 37:01
  But what do you do?
• 37:03
  What do you do to keep your kids safe?
• 37:05
  I would say I have a family of 10.
• 37:08
  I have eight kids from the ages of uh eight to 26 years old.
• 37:13
  And I will tell you the truth, and people may disagree with me, but I homeschooled my kids and not because I wanted them to have a great education, but because all the way back then I absolutely did not trust anybody.
• 37:25
  And I figured if I didn't send them to school, then they wouldn't get molested by a teacher.
• 37:30
  And if I didn't send them to sports, they wouldn't get molested by a coach.
• 37:33
  So I was very selective on what I allowed my kids to do.
• 37:37
  And so I do have a lot of kids.
• 37:38
  So obviously they have kids to play with because I have a lot of kids.
• 37:42
  So I know there's some people I say, well, I only have a single kid.
• 37:45
  I have two kids.
• 37:46
  If that is a case, I'm just gonna say hands down, I'm for homeschooling, and then I'm into being very curative, like they curating what you do with your family, where they go.
• 37:57
  My kids get to do things.
• 37:58
  I have some kids in Ninja, they do ninja stuff.
• 38:01
  Um, I have a kid who's in Club America, and he's in leadership for that.
• 38:05
  So he gets to be around other youth people.
• 38:07
  And so for me, I do.
• 38:09
  I don't have babysitters, I don't let my kids go play at other people's houses.
• 38:13
  I don't do um nightovers, and it's not crazy.
• 38:17
  My kids have done amazing things.
• 38:20
  Um, great accolades.
• 38:21
  I have a 13-year-old who's finishing his first year of college, and a 19-year-old who's gonna get his BA here in two months.
• 38:27
  So that is just doing homeschool with Klon Academy, like not spending a lot of money.
• 38:32
  So I'm just saying where there's a will, there's a way.
• 38:35
  And it's not putting a bubble around my kids, it's just being selective.
• 38:39
  I would say that.
• 38:40
  Okay, so that way you don't feel like you're overparanoid.
• 38:43
  Just say I'm a selective parent.
• 38:44
  I'm not a helicopter parent, I'm a selective parent.
• 38:48
  Okay.
• 38:48
  Uh Emma Sarah running a little bit uh over, but great information.
• 38:53
  We uh do have to take a break, folks.
• 38:55
  Please stay with us.
• 38:56
  We've got one more segment.
• 38:57
  We've got a lot more to talk about with Emma Sarah.
• 38:59
  We'll be right back.
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• 40:40
  Welcome back to Don't Imbibe the Kool-Aid.
• 40:44
  And this is Kim Kennedy here, your host for today's program.
• 40:48
  We're really glad that you're with us.
• 40:49
  Having a very revealing and thought-provoking conversation with Emma Sarah McMillian.
• 40:56
  And um finally got her name right on the third try.
• 40:59
  But um, we are talking to her about her Mother of Change Foundation.
• 41:04
  We just talked about her change system.
• 41:06
  And as if she uh isn't busy enough in her spare time.
• 41:11
  She also is the host of Ignite Voices TV, a fearless issues-based talk show, co-hosts it with her son Von Kensington McMillian that tackles culture, politics, faith, and national issues head on to spark real change and challenge the status quo.
• 41:27
  She's also the host of the Mother of Change uh show, a dynamic face-based talk show.
• 41:32
  Uh often co-hosts it with her daughter uh by you.
• 41:36
  Did I guess right, Emma Sarah?
• 41:39
  Close.
• 41:40
  Close.
• 41:40
  Uh that celebrates motherhood, personal development, and overcoming adversity.
• 41:45
  Well, you you you're really I I love what you're doing.
• 41:48
  Tell us a little bit more about uh those things you're doing.
• 41:51
  So Ignite Voices TV.
• 41:53
  That was definitely I heard that from the Lord to start that.
• 41:56
  I didn't even have it in my mind's eye.
• 41:58
  I just literally heard it one day in prayer.
• 42:00
  Day in prayer, I was getting ready for Amfest, uh, which is part of Turning Point USA, and I literally just felt God was telling me to start this show called Ignite Voices, and that it was to be a political issue-based show, and that he wanted my kids to be the co-host.
• 42:00
  I was getting ready for Amfest, uh, which is part of Turning Point USA, and I literally just felt God was telling me to start this show called Ignite Voices, and that it was to be a political issue-based show, and that he wanted my kids to be the co-host.
• 42:18
  So I did that, and I started that show.
• 42:18
  So I did that and I started that show.
• 42:21
  My second guest ever was Tom Hillman talk about hitting the jackpot.
• 42:21
  My second guest ever was Tom Hillman talk about hitting the jackpot.
• 42:25
  And um, I kind of made a joke with Tom and made him laugh.
• 42:25
  And um, I kind of made a joke with Tom and made him laugh, and I didn't realize you know, he can be serious, but I I got a good laugh out of Tom that day.
• 42:28
  And I didn't realize, you know, he can be serious.
• 42:32
  And so, anyway, I love to extrapolate truth from every topic that we talk about.
• 42:40
  We have a lot of lies online, we have propaganda, of course, we have sensationalism, and so I'm a facts and figure girl, and so I really like to highlight guests where we're having those bold voices that are blazing change, that's why it's ignite voices, and then really look for the facts, the figures.
• 42:57
  Number one thing I've taught my kids is to look at both sides of the story here.
• 43:02
  Like, so don't always just listen to the people that you believe.
• 43:06
  Like, what are the other people believe?
• 43:07
  What is the other champ believe?
• 43:09
  So that is Ignite Voices TV, and you can go to ignite voices TV.com to find out about that.
• 43:14
  But I've uh interviewed Ben Shapiro and uh Jordan Peterson on a red carpet, and it's been pretty fun.
• 43:20
  So I do press around the nation for that, and then I do have the Mother of Change TV show, which is on Faith Channel, that's award winner for best Christian messaging, and I've had women from all over the nation who have specifically moms who have been struggling or were struggling, I should say, and came to a place of victory.
• 43:41
  So I've had women say emissaire, I sat down and I binged watched it, and they laugh, they cry.
• 43:47
  It's like therapy from your living room sofa.
• 43:49
  So that's a mother change show as well.
• 43:51
  Motherchange.tv is what that one is.
• 43:55
  These are fabulous resources, and uh with there's so much support that is needed today, especially when we're telling people don't do this, don't do that.
• 44:02
  Well, you got to replace it.
• 44:03
  I remember when I was a kid and was like, oh, TV is so bad and this, that, and the other, and it's evil, and it's like, okay, some of the stuff on there is really bad, but you got to give alternatives, and you're doing that, and uh so families need that, especially today, families who are trying to do the right thing, and they need these alternatives.
• 44:21
  Um I got so many questions I want to ask you, and time is slipping away.
• 44:29
  Um, you've really put out some much needed information today.
• 44:34
  One of the things that came to my mind during our first uh session was where are the teacher unions, Emma Sarah?
• 44:40
  What are they doing to protect children or aren't they?
• 44:44
  Yeah, what are they doing?
• 44:46
  Can I laugh now or later?
• 44:47
  Yeah, please go right ahead.
• 44:49
  What are the two they're not doing their job?
• 44:52
  I would say, you know, obviously this we live uh we have a whole United States here, so there are many states here, but I would say the general consensus that enough is not being done.
• 45:01
  Uh, you know, the department of education has been failing our students uh nationwide.
• 45:08
  And this uh, with that said, in this election coming up, I have a personal friend who's running running for the state education position here, and I want to encourage everybody to get out and don't sit this one out.
• 45:20
  The kingdom of darkness, they're gonna be at the polls, they're gonna be voting, they're evil people in.
• 45:25
  So I just want to encourage if you're not happy with the school district, the school education, the board of education or with the teachers' union, be voice stress.
• 45:34
  Uh, don't sit home, cast your vote, go to the meetings, go to the town hall meetings, show up.
• 45:42
  We can sit here and scroll and get mad all day long, and they still win because they're showing up.
• 45:48
  So I would say that they're not doing enough because if they were, there was no way we would be having these pornographic materials in our our students' curriculum.
• 45:57
  You're so right.
• 45:58
  Um, two things come to mind.
• 46:00
  One is I have a friend who's uh she's a believer and uh in Christ, and she her son came home from uh high school and started telling her about some of the books in the school library.
• 46:12
  And uh I don't want to talk about it because it's I would be spreading pornography.
• 46:16
  Yeah, I think we can all fill in the blanks.
• 46:18
  I have a friend locally who is a uh county chapter leader of moms for liberty.
• 46:25
  She said, Well, you know what they're doing now, Kim.
• 46:27
  She said they have moved the books from the library into the classrooms.
• 46:32
  And um it's you gotta bear with me, listeners.
• 46:36
  It's hard for me to wrap my mind around this stuff.
• 46:38
  But they're it's in kindergarten classes, and the teachers are encouraging, oh, read that to one another.
• 46:44
  And it's like oh, I I looked out one of the books.
• 46:49
  I was regretful that I looked at one of the children's books.
• 46:53
  It was so incredibly graphic.
• 46:57
  When I say the P word with the capital, we they call it corn online so that your you know videos and sound don't get checked, but um, so for those purposes, we'll call it the corn really has a pee on it.
• 47:08
  But it was so graphic, and I like made me uncomfortable.
• 47:15
  Um, if if somebody's just like I've raised my kids to be consecrated, there's no way in heck, okay, that I would say being nice saying it in a way in heck.
• 47:25
  There's no way that once you see what I saw, you can't unsee it.
• 47:29
  And it was graphic, it was terrible.
• 47:33
  Okay.
• 47:33
  And so a parent, many parents have actually that said book.
• 47:38
  I can't remember the title right now, but they actually took it to the school district and they went to the meetings, and they stopped them from reading the book.
• 47:46
  They said, you know, they're like, no, stop, you can't read that book any longer.
• 47:51
  Well, why not?
• 47:52
  Because it's making us uncomfortable.
• 47:54
  Why?
• 47:54
  Because it's graphic, exactly.
• 47:56
  Get it out of the curriculum, get it out of our classrooms.
• 48:00
  This is egregious.
• 48:02
  It's it's I don't even have any words for it.
• 48:05
  Like they don't allow it at the meetings, but they're allowing it in the classrooms.
• 48:09
  Yeah, which tells you they're complicit, this is willful.
• 48:12
  Um, Emma Sarah, I uh with my friend who's in the transgender, was in the transgender movement, God saved him uh mightily out of it and powerfully.
• 48:22
  Um he talked about the drugs and how they change the wiring of the brain and they change uh kids.
• 48:30
  I have to think that porn at a very impressionable young age change children.
• 48:36
  Absolutely forever, permanently.
• 48:39
  What are what are the results?
• 48:41
  So we as human beings, our brain is still growing, it's still changing all the way up until 25.
• 48:49
  That whole, you know, capacity of our brain changing and neuroplasticity and all the wiring and the synapses, all those are still being formed.
• 48:59
  Pathways are being uh, you know, I would say, yes, pathways are being formed.
• 49:00
  Are being uh, you know, I would say, yes, pathways are being formed.
• 49:06
  So what's happening is that the first five years of a child's life, you have the very it's a very important time for nurture.
• 49:06
  So what's happening is that the first five years of a child's life, you have the very it's a very important time for nurture.
• 49:12
  Okay.
• 49:12
  Okay.
• 49:13
  So if you get a child who is seeing inappropriate things and they have a family who is not doing what they should to protect them at home, and then they're going to school and they're seeing pornographic things.
• 49:13
  So if you get a child who is seeing inappropriate things, and they have a family who is not doing what they should to protect them at home, and then they're going to school and they're seeing pornographic things.
• 49:24
  They I would say the most tender years are up to five.
• 49:24
  They I would say the most tender years are up to five.
• 49:28
  Okay.
• 49:28
  Okay.
• 49:28
  So if you have a child who
• 49:29
  So if you have a child who's being, and they are they're being shown things in preschool and in kindergarten.
• 49:34
  So if they are going and they're already having a disconnect at home, which will impair that brain function, and now they're getting this uh information that's put on upon them.
• 49:44
  They're already some kids who are dealing with some severe stuff at home, can um actually get what is called reactive attachment disorder, which is already disconnecting them from their cognition, it's already disconnecting them from their conscience.
• 49:59
  That's why you're seeing so many kids doing crazy things, killing other kids, bringing guns to schools.
• 50:03
  There's things that are going on because there are some pathways in their brain that are not firing up, and that you know, is a physiological thing, but you also have the spiritual thing, which the scripture says to be careful of your conscious being serious.
• 50:16
  So when you get somebody who's not spiritually inclined, not in the word or opening them themselves up to witchcraft, and now you have some cognitive things happening with your pathways uh with consciousness, it's a day dangerous recipe, dangerous.
• 50:31
  It's a very dangerous.
• 50:32
  And I don't know in my lifetime.
• 50:34
  I know you know the Bible says that there's nothing new under the sun, right?
• 50:37
  And um, I am aware that there's was a time in history where God looked down and said things are so bad, things are so incredibly evil that I'm just gonna stop the I'm gonna stop, I'm gonna flood the earth.
• 50:51
  And in the past, Ms.
• 50:52
  I used to think to myself, no, what did God see that was so bad?
• 50:56
  But when you pull the curtains back on something like this, you're literally destroying millions of kids.
• 51:03
  I mean, they're they're like alive without being alive, is what you're describing to me.
• 51:07
  You're you're destroying their souls, their spirits.
• 51:10
  And think of yeah, go ahead.
• 51:13
  I was just gonna say, you think about this is perplexed me for many years, okay, with in line with what you're saying.
• 51:20
  I why didn't why didn't God spare the children in Sodom?
• 51:25
  He could have taken Lot and the children, you know, he could have taken Lot, the wife, and not just his children, but all the little children, right?
• 51:34
  But I've gone over this a million times, and this is obviously spiritual speculation, I'll call it uh prayer time is that we will understand more now than ever.
• 51:44
  Those children were all being violated, they were being violated.
• 51:48
  If the angels came into the town and the angels couldn't even be there for a short amount of time before the men were trying to we call it grape them, you know, then we can only imagine what they're doing to the children, and they didn't come.
• 52:02
  And so we know that Christ come, we have the you know, we have the hope in Christ now, we have redemption, we have salvation, we have healing and restoration, so I just understand that all those poor children, you know, they didn't deserve to die, but they didn't they didn't survive with the desecration of Sodom, and it was because it was so prevalent that who knows how many of those children were actually hurting each other, you know, it just got really really disgusting, basically.
• 52:32
  Well, Emma Sarah, that is profound.
• 52:34
  Um it helps you understand where in the other parts of the old testament where God said to certain leaders, wipe out entire towns, cultures, don't spare anybody and and the same thing, there's children there, but they had been taken it's awful.
• 52:52
  They were they, yes.
• 52:53
  I mean, it's hard for us to wrap around because I don't ever want anybody to think, oh, are you saying that people have been hurt now?
• 52:59
  It should be thrown away.
• 53:00
  No, I'm not saying that whatsoever.
• 53:02
  I'm just saying that God and his sovereignty knew what was going on in Sodom, even with the children and what you know what was going on, and if it was to preserve a generation and hurt kids, hurt kids, and like I said, Holy Spirit, um, you know, Christ crucified gives us a whole another level of of strength and power.
• 53:21
  Uh I that's the only way I can wrap my head around you know, the distance.
• 53:25
  But we know that there's new new covenant and there's old covenant.
• 53:28
  So there's something within that expanse that changed that.
• 53:31
  But that's how serious it was.
• 53:32
  I mean, the bottom line is why say all that?
• 53:34
  Because God destroyed Sodom and all the children in it.
• 53:38
  We need to use that as a marker to say we don't ever want to do that again, period.
• 53:43
  Yeah.
• 53:43
  Um, you know, folks, and and we we always bring this aspect into it because you know, i if people get scared into heaven, that's a good thing.
• 53:54
  Uh, and I'm talking about the fear of the Lord and not wanting to experience experience his wrath and judgment because we are in the age of grace, and we've heard so many times God is love, God is long suffering.
• 54:05
  But if we continue to sin willfully and harden our hearts, there is a certain fearful looking for judgment.
• 54:12
  And Sarah, I know you agree with me.
• 54:14
  And so we have to plead with people, you know, turn from this, tell people if you suspect someone who's involved in this, you know, there is no sin except the sin of unbelief that God cannot forgive, right?
• 54:27
  Yes, yep, that and blasphemy, right?
• 54:30
  Yes, yes.
• 54:31
  So in in this time that we have, turn to him, repent of abusing other people.
• 54:38
  And and people, you know, some people don't understand the fact that the value in human beings is that we're made in the image of God.
• 54:45
  Do you want to talk on that for a little bit here?
• 54:49
  Yes, and we are where we are created in the image of God, and because we are created in the image of God, this is what I talk about in my book, ferocious.
• 54:59
  Uh, it's really talking about the antithesis is what the situation is, is that if God said it, Satan is going to come against it.
• 55:08
  And if God said that this is your body, that it is a temple, that you're made in my image, then you better believe that the enemy is going to come hard and heavy, bring confusion, tell boys that they're girls, tell girls that you know that that they're the opposite sex, they're going to uh he's going to try to violate uh we see all these people, even now.
• 55:27
  I mean, this is a kind of you know separate situation, but still the same spirit as there's a lot of people who are into quote unquote body modification, and you know, which what one you know at one point it was just earrings, okay.
• 55:38
  And we do know that biblically there was brides that had earrings um in biblical times, but there is an over, okay, like there's an override where the enemy comes in, and now it's not just okay, we're going to uh, you know, whatever it is, we have free will.
• 55:53
  So there's some things that are gray and we can do them fine.
• 55:56
  But when we start to desecrate the temple, and there's people who are blacking out their eyeballs and they're blacking out their skin and they're putting like you know, bars in the middle of their forehead, and they look like lizards.
• 56:00
  out their eyeballs and they're blacking out their skin and they're putting like you know bars in the middle of their forehead and they look like lizard I saw one person look like lizard a lizard man it was just crazy so that is a desecration of the temple of God we are the temple of God and so I would encourage everybody to be alert about that because some people they're sheeple like some people there's a pastor in the church and now the pastor is getting all tatted up and and then the next person is like well the pastor is doing it and then they start taking it to the integral and before you know it there's gonna be lizard people in church.
• 56:08
  I saw one person look like lizard, a lizard man.
• 56:11
  It was just crazy.
• 56:12
  So that is a desecration of the temple of God.
• 56:15
  We are the temple of God.
• 56:16
  And so I would encourage everybody to be alert about that because some people they're sheeple, like some people there's a pastor in the church, and now the pastor is getting all tatted up, and and then the next person.
• 56:37
  Well actually before you know that actually already happened and Missara thank you so much I was the pleasure was all mine meeting and talking with you.
• 56:44
  Thank you for sharing this information.
• 56:45
  Thank you so much.
• 56:46
  It's been a pleasure listeners thanks for being with us we look forward to having you join us again