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The Future of Technocracy Will Change Humanity Forever · Ryder Lee

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. How are you doing.
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Speaker 2: I'm doing great?
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Speaker 1: How are you I'm doing amazing? Down on this documentary
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Speaker 1: getting it done. It just showed you some artwork before
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Speaker 1: we started.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really excited to see it. I can't wait.
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Speaker 2: What you've been telling me is going to be a
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Speaker 2: really good show, your third one now, so you're gonna
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Speaker 2: be on your way.
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Speaker 1: You have you seen what's going on with The Shining
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Speaker 1: and they're releasing it and what is it? Imax?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's curious because you know, it costs a lot
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Speaker 2: of money to convert from film to the Imax, and
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Speaker 2: so they must think that they're going to make some
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Speaker 2: money by doing this. We never have invested that kind
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Speaker 2: of money in it. Two and a half hour film
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Speaker 2: converted to Imax custom costs like seven figures. So it's
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Speaker 2: just interesting that of all the films that they've chosen, they're,
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Speaker 2: you know, forty five years old, they chose The Shining.
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Speaker 2: And I think that's because, well, our film got more
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Speaker 2: interest going in it, and Room two thirty seven, of
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Speaker 2: course got a lot of interest in my work. But
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Speaker 2: it's just a film that just keeps She's going basically unbelievable,
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Speaker 2: and you know, so it's great. I mean, I wish
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Speaker 2: I had an Imax by I mean to go see it.
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Speaker 2: I'd love to see it an Imax.
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Speaker 1: Did you see what Joe Rogan was talking talking about
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Speaker 1: with The Shining here recently. No, I got a clip here.
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Speaker 3: He had a grudge against her, for sure. Yeah, that's
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Speaker 3: the thing, But he was a nutty dude.
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Speaker 2: Man.
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Speaker 3: It's like all these weird symbolism that he put in
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Speaker 3: his films, and like all the different things in The
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Speaker 3: Shining that lead people to believe it's some sort of
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Speaker 3: an expose on the moon landing conspiracy.
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Speaker 1: I thought that was great.
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Speaker 2: I had not seen that. Surprised somebody didn't make me
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Speaker 2: aware of it.
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Speaker 1: That's really yeah, conspiracy. I thought that was wild that
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Speaker 1: it was brought up there. I thought the end of it.
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Speaker 2: I didn't know that one.
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Speaker 3: There's so many wild things because people knew that he
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Speaker 3: had like symbolism in his films that was hidden and
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Speaker 3: he was Everything was very clever and layered. There was
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Speaker 3: so much stuff to it, you know. I can't believe
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Speaker 3: Stephen King didn't like The Shining though. To me, it's like, God,
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Speaker 3: it's so great as a film. I get it, it's
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Speaker 3: not what you wrote down, but damn that's good.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it is a great adaptation of it. It's
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Speaker 2: so good.
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Speaker 3: It's such a good movie. But I just can't think
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Speaker 3: of the first where it came from. You know, you
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Speaker 3: can't think of the first story. You got to think
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Speaker 3: of it as a whole.
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Speaker 2: It is a hole.
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Speaker 3: Is amazing.
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah that was.
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Speaker 2: That was that understands the Shining.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I keep for sure, I keep waiting for him
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Speaker 1: to bring up jfkaoks like he comes so close, like
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Speaker 1: every single time music. The closest with was with Ian Carroll,
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Speaker 1: which I had a clip on here where he was
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Speaker 1: saying that JFK's body was not JFK's body.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I like I and Carroll. I think I
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Speaker 2: and Carroll as a as a follower of mine too.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's pretty amazing, you know. And both both films,
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Speaker 2: The KA Actually and The Clockwork Shining or are two
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Speaker 2: of the best documentaries of the last four years. I think.
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Speaker 2: I think Clockwork Shining is probably the best documentary of
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. So, I mean I have prejudice, of course,
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Speaker 2: but it's you know, it is it's a riveting show
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Speaker 2: and it's really giving novel information out that no one,
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Speaker 2: I guarantee no one is the whole idea of the
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Speaker 2: Shining as an MK ultra operation, you know, and you
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Speaker 2: know that brings my mind. In a future reality check,
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Speaker 2: I'm going to be doing a show of Stanley Kubrick's
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Speaker 2: two trilogies. So Stanley Kubrick made thirteen films. But people
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Speaker 2: don't realize is that six of those films were in
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Speaker 2: two separate trilogies. The first trilogy I call the Dystopian
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Speaker 2: Future Trilogy, which is Doctor Strangelove, two thousand and one,
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Speaker 2: Space Odyssey and A Clockwork Orange. And then there's a
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Speaker 2: break between that trilogy and the next trilogy, and that
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Speaker 2: break is Barry Lindon, and then he begins what I
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Speaker 2: call his mk Ultra trilogy, which is The Shining and
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Speaker 2: then how the military used mk Ultra tactics to train
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Speaker 2: their men in full metal jacket, and then how the
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Speaker 2: elites use mk ulture to control us. In the real
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Speaker 2: version of Is White Shut that I believe exists, that
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Speaker 2: is separate from the version that got released, which was
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Speaker 2: all cut up and ruined and everything. So in my
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Speaker 2: version of Is White Shut, Nicole Kidman has been taken
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Speaker 2: into the cult early on in the movie, and at
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Speaker 2: the orgy scene when they're doing their ritual, there's only
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Speaker 2: eleven women around the central guy, right, So there's a
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Speaker 2: spot missing because it should be thirteen in a coven,
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Speaker 2: So there's a spot missing has to be filled by
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Speaker 2: a beautiful woman. And I'm I'm pretty sure that the
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Speaker 2: whole ceremony was to initiate Nicole Kidman as that twelfth
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Speaker 2: woman in the thirteen person coven, and that she had
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Speaker 2: a mask on and he had a mask on, and
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Speaker 2: so he didn't know who she was. Although to find
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Speaker 2: out hard to believe, but anyway, that's what I heard
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Speaker 2: from someone who actually saw the original version of Eise
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Speaker 2: White Shut.
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Speaker 1: I feel a sequel of brewing something.
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Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons I'm doing you forcing myself
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Speaker 2: to do research in those whole new concept of q
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Speaker 2: Rick's films. There are no other trilogies. You know, he
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Speaker 2: did a bunch of disparate movies before, like Spartacus and
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Speaker 2: Paths of Glory and all good films. But there's a
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Speaker 2: sinewy connection between Doctor Strangelow two thousand and one and
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Speaker 2: A Clockwork Orange. It's scary, weird and dark future run
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Speaker 2: by AI in two thousand and one and ruled by
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Speaker 2: gangs and a clockwork Orange. And then you know he
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Speaker 2: does his break with Barry Lindon, which was a massive failure,
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Speaker 2: his only real failure. And then he comes back with
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Speaker 2: you know what could have been an even more powerful
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Speaker 2: trilogy except that they ransacked Eyes Why Shut and ruined it.
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Speaker 2: But in the real version it would have been the
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Speaker 2: most incredible mk Ultra series ever. It still is. But
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Speaker 2: I mean, you think about the whole first act of
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Speaker 2: a Full Metal Jacket is he's using mk Ultra techniques
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Speaker 2: on the Marines. He's breaking them down, he's tearing them down,
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Speaker 2: he's destroying them, right, and then he builds up dang pile.
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Speaker 2: That's a pretty good shooting. You know. He starts complimenting
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Speaker 2: them at the very end as they get more and
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Speaker 2: more marine like, or more and more robot like, more
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Speaker 2: and more mind control. Actually, so it'll be a good show.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, I think we should do another another film
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Speaker 2: about it, because I got a lot of other stuff
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Speaker 2: that I've kind of been holding back on about Qubrick
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Speaker 2: and his films.
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Speaker 1: We're definitely going to do that. It probably won't be
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Speaker 1: it'll be something titled completely different, but will be around.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it won't be. I don't want to be
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Speaker 2: part of the Cubric's Odyssey series because this is more
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Speaker 2: like a documentary about Kubrick and his life, not so much,
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Speaker 2: you know what, what he's really trying to express.
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Speaker 1: He can really ruffle some feathers with on Cubriaic. Oh
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Speaker 1: my god. Yeah, like probably won't like anybody's probably the truth.
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Speaker 2: Well, a lot of the books that have come out
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Speaker 2: recently about Kubrick are definitely lifted off of my mostly
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Speaker 2: my radio shows and podcasts and stuff, and I don't
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Speaker 2: I've never said a lot of that stuff. And in
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Speaker 2: my in my Cuberic Odyssey series, like the Scientology connection
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Speaker 2: to Eyes Wide Shot and how he's actually telling you
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Speaker 2: about the origins of scientology, that the naval officer is
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Speaker 2: really al Ron Hubbard, a handsome naval officer who seduced
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Speaker 2: Jack Parson's girlfriend, Redhead Tall and stole from him. And
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Speaker 2: that's what Tom Cruise even looks a little bit like
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Speaker 2: Jack Parsons oddly enough, and she has her fantasies about
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Speaker 2: this handsome naval officer and that's the origins of scientology.
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Speaker 2: Al Ron Hubbard, you know, created scientology right after this experience.
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Speaker 2: Of course, daughter was alist that she hates my guts.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh, that'll definitely be really interesting to dive
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Speaker 1: into that. The Well, what I wanted to actually bring
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Speaker 1: you on to talk about today is like this uh,
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Speaker 1: this technology boom that we're currently and I don't know
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Speaker 1: if you listened to the most recent podcast with Elon
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Speaker 1: Mosk on Joe Rogan, but he's essentially talking about how
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Speaker 1: we're not going to be using phones anymore and how
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Speaker 1: phones are going to be like a thing of the
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Speaker 1: past year. I actually got a clip that we're going
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Speaker 1: to listen to before we get into the bones of
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Speaker 1: the discussion.
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Speaker 4: I think things are going to go, which is that
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Speaker 4: it's we're not going to have a phone, or in
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Speaker 4: an additional sense, that what we call a phone will
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Speaker 4: really be an edge node for AI inference for or
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Speaker 4: AI video inference with you know, with some radios to
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Speaker 4: obviously connect to, but essentially we'll have AI on the
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Speaker 4: service side community communicating to an AI on your your device,
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Speaker 4: you know, formerly known as the phone, and generating real
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Speaker 4: time video of anything that you could possibly want. And
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Speaker 4: I think that they won't be operating systems, they won't
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Speaker 4: be apps in the future will be operating systems or apps,
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Speaker 4: It'll just.
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Speaker 1: Be Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how this works.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how we get to that that type
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Speaker 1: of point where it.
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Speaker 2: Would just be apps. So apparently they're going to like
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Speaker 2: some way they're going to intertwine apps together that will
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Speaker 2: start operating like an operating system, but not be an
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Speaker 2: operating I think.
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Speaker 4: That's what you said, something along the lines of that,
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Speaker 4: you've got a device that is there for this an
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Speaker 4: audio and for UH and and and and to uh
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Speaker 4: put as much AI on the on the device as
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Speaker 4: possible so as to minimize the amount of bandwidth that's
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Speaker 4: needed between your edge no device or pulling on as
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Speaker 4: the phone and the servers.
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Speaker 3: So if there's no apps, what will people you like?
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Speaker 3: Will it X still exist? Will?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? That's kind of the thing, is that our current
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Speaker 1: economy is based upon people just searching and scrolling and
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Speaker 1: doom scrolling on social media and stuff. Right, Like, people
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Speaker 1: don't know what they want. So that's how a lot
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Speaker 1: of sales actually happen, is like through fomo or the
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Speaker 1: fear of missing out on something or something catches their
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Speaker 1: eye while they're scrolling on social media. It's like a panic,
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Speaker 1: but panic buy like consumerism one oh one. You you
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Speaker 1: make people buy things that they don't actually need. Now,
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Speaker 1: what Elon is kind of describing is that that that's
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Speaker 1: no longer going to be a thing like the AI
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Speaker 1: is automatically going to know what you want when you
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Speaker 1: want it. But that's not currently how it's gone for
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Speaker 1: the past fifty to sixty years in our economy. It's
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Speaker 1: you know, commercials, hit you with a commercial, make you
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Speaker 1: think that you want something. Hit you with the latest iPhone,
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Speaker 1: even though you have an iPhone that already works and
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Speaker 1: that is doing good. They hit you with that commercial,
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Speaker 1: and then they're like, oh my god, the new iPhone
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Speaker 1: is out. I got to go grab the new one,
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Speaker 1: even though I got one that already works and it's
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Speaker 1: the exact same model. I got to go get the
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Speaker 1: newest one. It's consumerism one on one. So I don't
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Speaker 1: really understand how it's going to get to that point.
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Speaker 1: We got a little bit more of this clip in
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Speaker 1: the moment I have a full on discussion about it.
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Speaker 3: Will they be email platforms or will you get everything
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Speaker 3: through AI?
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Speaker 4: You'll get everything through everything through AI.
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Speaker 3: It will be the benefit of that as opposed to
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Speaker 3: having individual apps.
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Speaker 4: Whatever you can think of, or really whatever the A
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Speaker 4: can anticipate you might want, it'll show you. That's that's
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Speaker 4: that's that's my prediction for where things end up.
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Speaker 3: What kind of timeframe were were talking about here?
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Speaker 4: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's probably.
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Speaker 4: Five or six years or something like that.
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Speaker 1: What five or six years, Janet? That is very quick.
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Speaker 1: That is very quick to completely change.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty interesting. So what it is something that
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Speaker 2: he knows about, that's for sure.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely he knows about.
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Speaker 2: So five or six years.
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Speaker 3: Apps are like Blockbuster video pretty much, and everything's.
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Speaker 2: Run through AI.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they'll be like most of what people can
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Speaker 4: see in five or six years, maybe sooner than that
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Speaker 4: will be just AI generated content.
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Speaker 2: So there it is.
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Speaker 4: That is.
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Speaker 1: Shocking revelation. What do you think?
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Speaker 2: I don't know. This sounds a little bit manipulative here.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean I hope the AI can you know,
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Speaker 2: read you right? But how do I know the AI
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Speaker 2: isn't leading you right? And besides, half the fun of
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Speaker 2: the Internet is just bouncing around randomly, and who wants
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Speaker 2: to have somebody decide where you go what you do?
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Speaker 2: So I don't know if that's gonna work. I'm not
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Speaker 2: I'm not. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: There is really interesting too. Harry says, in five to
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Speaker 1: six years, why people are going to be consuming in entertainment,
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Speaker 1: in music and everything online is going to be AI generated.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what people have been seeing for a
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Speaker 1: really long time. I just don't really understand if it's
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Speaker 1: true and that does happen, and we're like five to
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Speaker 1: six years out from what he's seeing, I don't understand
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Speaker 1: how they're going to get us to that point because
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Speaker 1: a lot of things would have to collapse and be
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Speaker 1: destroyed in order for everybody to be on board with that.
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Speaker 2: Well, a lot of things are going to be collapsed
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Speaker 2: and destroyed over the next few years. I can tell
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Speaker 2: you that it's complete, utter destruction of many, many, many things.
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Speaker 2: And you know where it's headed. Nobody knows, you know.
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Speaker 2: I suppose if you're a creative person that what's coming
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Speaker 2: is probably not scaring you because you know that you
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Speaker 2: have the creative skills to you know you is it?
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Speaker 2: I certainly feel that way about it. But it AI
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Speaker 2: is making people very unpleasant right now. They're not very
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Speaker 2: happy about what's happening. The thirty thousand jobs that got
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Speaker 2: lost from Amazon and all of that, So AI is
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Speaker 2: in a bad place right now with the public, the
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Speaker 2: general public. They don't like it, they don't want it,
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Speaker 2: but it's coming and there's nothing they can do about it.
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Speaker 2: Bill Gates, after telling us that the climate was being
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Speaker 2: destroyed for twenty five straight years, suddenly comes out and
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Speaker 2: says that it isn't being destroyed. And he said, well,
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Speaker 2: what happened, Bill, Like what made you change your mind?
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Speaker 2: And then you realize, oh, I know what it was.
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Speaker 2: He's building data centers are going to use up tons
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Speaker 2: and tons of energy. So now he has to be
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Speaker 2: for using up energy if he's going to have a
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Speaker 2: data center. So you either need nuclear power plants or
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Speaker 2: you know, water going over a waterfall, or gasoline or coal.
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Speaker 2: You can't generate electricity without those things. And so everybody
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Speaker 2: in Silicon Valley is now pulling back from all their
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Speaker 2: climate hysteria. All of them are because they know they
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Speaker 2: need these data centers for AI. So the AI has
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Speaker 2: changed their stance and made them become more realistic about
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Speaker 2: exactly what we're doing here. And you know, when you're
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Speaker 2: an average person and you see, you know, one hundred
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Speaker 2: and twenty thousand layoffs in the last few weeks, and
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Speaker 2: they're all true to AI. And then you see your
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Speaker 2: electricity bill going up because the AI is juicing out everybody,
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Speaker 2: you're not going to be very happy about it. And
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Speaker 2: so AI is going through a bad place right now.
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Speaker 2: And then Sam Altman comes out and asks that government
19:47
Speaker 2: subsidize his company. He's like, what the hell? First you
19:51
Speaker 2: start out as a nonprofit and then you suddenly overnight
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Speaker 2: you go from a nonprofit to a profit and now
19:57
Speaker 2: you're asking for government subsidies. It's like, that's all to
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Speaker 2: win a friend, I'll tell you no way. And he's
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Speaker 2: a shady dude anyway, with the death of one of
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Speaker 2: his assistants. And so you know, these AI titans are
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Speaker 2: trying to take over the world and remake it in
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Speaker 2: their own image. And you know, maybe Elon is not
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Speaker 2: doing that. There's a couple of other people that are
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Speaker 2: making AIS that seem to be fairly balanced and everything,
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Speaker 2: but man, this is we're going to a place where
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Speaker 2: I don't know how we can come back from it.
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Speaker 2: We're not coming back from it. And so Terence McKenna
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Speaker 2: once told me that the future was going to happen
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Speaker 2: all at once. This was thirty years ago, and I
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Speaker 2: was like, what dude, you've been smoking too much weed
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Speaker 2: and reading too much science fiction. He's like, no, now, Jay,
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Speaker 2: the future is going to happen all at once. You
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Speaker 2: don't understand. And then as I couldn't figure it out
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Speaker 2: and he couldn't explain himself, I don't know if it
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Speaker 2: was just an intuition on his partner what. But now
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Speaker 2: we're at this point where that's what's happening. We've got
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Speaker 2: his backlog of a secret space program technologies that are
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Speaker 2: thirty forty years old. They've been hanging on and keeping
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Speaker 2: it away from us, and now we are beginning to
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Speaker 2: figure out how these technologies work by associating each other
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Speaker 2: on the Internet and social media. We're beginning to figure
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Speaker 2: it out. And so they can keep their inventions because
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Speaker 2: we're already figuring out how to do it. And you know,
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Speaker 2: there is a theory for decades, from the eighteen nineties
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Speaker 2: until the late nineteen sixties early nineteen seventies, in track
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Speaker 2: and field, they many many runners tried to run a
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Speaker 2: four minute mile, a three minute and fifty nine second
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Speaker 2: mile to break the four minute mark, and nobody could
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Speaker 2: do it. No, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people
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Speaker 2: tried and nobody could do it. And then a runner
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Speaker 2: in nineteen I think seventy two he broke the four
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Speaker 2: minute mile. It was like front page of Sports Illustrated
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Speaker 2: and everything, right, oh my god, we broke the four
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Speaker 2: minute mile. Well right after that, suddenly everybody could run
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Speaker 2: the four minute while and it was like, wait a minute,
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Speaker 2: what happened? And what I think happens is we break
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Speaker 2: through this psychological barrier and then that gives permission now
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Speaker 2: for everyone following to be able to do the same thing.
22:34
Speaker 2: And that's what's going on here with technology, where we're
22:38
Speaker 2: reaching a place where the machines are going to we're
22:44
Speaker 2: reaching a place in our society where the technology is
22:48
Speaker 2: advancing so quickly and old technologies are being rediscovered for
22:52
Speaker 2: the first time that literally we're going to do, you know,
22:57
Speaker 2: three hundred years and ten years. That's what Elon's talking about.
23:02
Speaker 2: So we're gonna you know, sometimes you sometimes you spend
23:07
Speaker 2: a decade, you know, in a week. Sometimes you know,
23:11
Speaker 2: a decade takes thirty years, right, It just depends on
23:15
Speaker 2: the situation. Right now, we're in a situation where we're
23:20
Speaker 2: wrapping up so quickly that nobody's going to be able
23:25
Speaker 2: to predict the future. And there's a lot of danger
23:27
Speaker 2: in all this. I mean, the weapons that can be
23:30
Speaker 2: created from AI are shocking, really shocking, and drones, including
23:35
Speaker 2: all the stuff together, and so the human race is
23:40
Speaker 2: either going to have to mature and realize that we can't.
23:45
Speaker 2: You know, if we're going to play with these toys,
23:47
Speaker 2: then we have to play with them as adults and
23:50
Speaker 2: not as irresponsible children. And that's a big step because
23:55
Speaker 2: anyone will be able to get a hold of this
23:57
Speaker 2: stuff very soon, from the poorest Africa to the Arab
24:03
Speaker 2: countries and everything. So there's no way out of this.
24:07
Speaker 2: And you know, there's all these intellectuals in the AI
24:11
Speaker 2: world calling for a moratorium on AI development and it's
24:17
Speaker 2: not a bad idea, but it's not gonna work because
24:20
Speaker 2: they're all in competition with each other. Who's going to
24:22
Speaker 2: stop now? And if we stop, China will keep going.
24:25
Speaker 2: So there's no way back from the precipice that we're
24:29
Speaker 2: going towards. And you know, I just hope that you know,
24:32
Speaker 2: the human race has enough maturity to pull through the
24:36
Speaker 2: squeeze point that we're going through the time where the
24:39
Speaker 2: future is happening all at once now until I'd say
24:43
Speaker 2: another ten years. Maybe maybe he's right, maybe it's six years.
24:47
Speaker 2: I don't know. He knows more than I do. But intuitively,
24:51
Speaker 2: Terrence McKenna saw this, and I don't know how. Maybe
24:56
Speaker 2: he knew about some of this technology being bottled up
24:59
Speaker 2: or or something, or maybe he just you know, extrapolated
25:03
Speaker 2: ideas together until you realize at one point you're going
25:06
Speaker 2: to be able to clip together hundreds of different technologies
25:10
Speaker 2: and creating all sorts of new things. And you know,
25:13
Speaker 2: I asked the question, what happens when AI meets three
25:19
Speaker 2: D printers meets free energy? What then happens when every
25:23
Speaker 2: household can be turned into a manufacturing plant, a manufacturing
25:28
Speaker 2: exotic materials and you know, parts for things and machines.
25:33
Speaker 2: And it's that's where we're head. And it's going to
25:36
Speaker 2: be amazing because in that world, the smartest people will win,
25:43
Speaker 2: and because they'll just use the technology to their advantage.
25:47
Speaker 2: So again, it's fraught with danger too, really really fraught
25:50
Speaker 2: with danger, especially the drone part. That's part that scares
25:54
Speaker 2: me a little bit. I mean, you know, you sass
25:57
Speaker 2: off at your neighbor and the next thing you know,
25:58
Speaker 2: he's attacking you with a right and so I could
26:03
Speaker 2: get really here and that stuffs gonna happen.
26:07
Speaker 1: Well. Elon was also talking about in the beginning of
26:09
Speaker 1: the podcast with Rogan that he is getting ready to
26:12
Speaker 1: unveil like a flying car in a couple of months
26:18
Speaker 1: like the But something really interesting too that was talked
26:22
Speaker 1: about in the discussion, which I think is really important,
26:27
Speaker 1: is that basically we can fix all of our problems.
26:31
Speaker 1: We just don't fix all of our problems. People just
26:35
Speaker 1: let the problems keep stacking up and stacking up and
26:38
Speaker 1: stacking up. And someone in the chat just said that
26:40
Speaker 1: they believe that AI is an excuse, and I do
26:44
Speaker 1: believe AI is an excuse, and you're trying to use
26:47
Speaker 1: it to be like this is the end all be all,
26:50
Speaker 1: This is how we fix everything, This is how we
26:52
Speaker 1: clean up the environment, this is how we root out corruption.
26:55
Speaker 1: And Elon was talking about how if he had like
26:58
Speaker 1: unimpunitive measures to do what he wanted to do with DOGE,
27:03
Speaker 1: then he would have cut the national debt in half
27:07
Speaker 1: and he would have been able to up all this
27:09
Speaker 1: corruption and it can be cleaned up. But the thing
27:12
Speaker 1: is is people are stopping it from being cleaned up.
27:15
Speaker 1: So they're just letting it run and run and run
27:17
Speaker 1: and run and run until it gets so overwhelming that
27:20
Speaker 1: you have to bring in something like AI. And that's
27:23
Speaker 1: what he said. He said, he backed off, he went
27:25
Speaker 1: out of the White House because he realized that no
27:29
Speaker 1: one actually wanted this stuff fixed. They didn't want the
27:33
Speaker 1: corruption fixed. They didn't want the laundering of money and
27:37
Speaker 1: the social security benefits and all that stuff being fixed
27:41
Speaker 1: because too many people were getting paid from it. They
27:44
Speaker 1: were getting paid out of those out of all the corruption. Okay,
27:49
Speaker 1: so they use the AI as an excuse in the
27:52
Speaker 1: future to be like, Okay, well this is what we're now.
27:55
Speaker 1: AI is going to now fix all of our problems.
27:57
Speaker 1: It's going to fix all of our issues because we've
27:59
Speaker 1: let it get to this point to where it's unfixable
28:02
Speaker 1: and we can't fix Well, that's what they're saying. They're
28:04
Speaker 1: saying that the problem is unfixable, that human intervention cannot
28:07
Speaker 1: fix the problem. And Musk even said that he was like,
28:10
Speaker 1: I realize that the only way that we can fix
28:13
Speaker 1: these problems is if we intimate implement AI and robotics.
28:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what's going to happen. We're going to
28:22
Speaker 2: surrender to the AI. The AI is gonna just I'd
28:28
Speaker 2: rather have the AI make a lot of the decisions anyway.
28:31
Speaker 2: Why do I want some you know, drugged out, alcoholic
28:35
Speaker 2: congressman who's into weird sex, you know, making decisions for me,
28:39
Speaker 2: right so, and they can't even make good decisions anyway,
28:43
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that I think that's what he
28:46
Speaker 2: was trying to do with dose, was put the AI
28:48
Speaker 2: and somebody got you know, put a gun to his
28:51
Speaker 2: head or something. He said his life would have he
28:53
Speaker 2: was in great danger. On another Rogan uh broadcast, I
28:56
Speaker 2: remember he said that if he went any further with
28:59
Speaker 2: it that he didn't think he would live through it.
29:01
Speaker 2: And I believe that's probably true. And you know, Rudolph Steiner,
29:09
Speaker 2: the great mystic from the nineteen twenties, one hundred years ago,
29:13
Speaker 2: he talked about how in the early twenty first century,
29:17
Speaker 2: technology would become the new malevolent force that would sweep
29:25
Speaker 2: through humanity and take it over and control it. And
29:29
Speaker 2: he didn't. He didn't there were even computers in his day.
29:32
Speaker 2: So I think that's probably a good assessment of what's
29:37
Speaker 2: going on. And you know, it's like a highly intelligent
29:45
Speaker 2: person could use AI to do just about anything. And
29:49
Speaker 2: I think that's what's really going to start happening is
29:52
Speaker 2: on all fronts that they're going to be using it
29:55
Speaker 2: as an assistant to accomplish things that we haven't even
29:59
Speaker 2: imagined yet.
30:02
Speaker 1: Well, we're already kind of seeing it too with AI ads,
30:06
Speaker 1: like they've been doing a lot of AI ads now
30:09
Speaker 1: AI commercials, Like I've watched some Hulu stuff and I'm like,
30:13
Speaker 1: that's one AI created, it's AI creation. Then you think, well,
30:20
Speaker 1: you know, if this is just being rolled out to
30:23
Speaker 1: the public now, like the public has been able to
30:25
Speaker 1: do this for I don't know a couple of years now,
30:27
Speaker 1: Like how long have they been doing it. They've had
30:29
Speaker 1: to have been doing it for a long time. A
30:31
Speaker 1: lot of the things that we probably thought was real
30:33
Speaker 1: probably wasn't real. It was probably AI generated in a
30:37
Speaker 1: lot of cases.
30:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's actually right. I think that, Well, I've probably
30:45
Speaker 2: had it for a long time, you know, because they've
30:47
Speaker 2: been working on it for a long time. And uh
30:50
Speaker 2: so you're right, we don't know how long they've been
30:53
Speaker 2: put pumping out AI images at us and making a
30:56
Speaker 2: stick that it's real, you know, and I right after,
31:02
Speaker 2: right after Sandy Hook, when all that controversy was going,
31:07
Speaker 2: I started thinking about past events, and I remembered a
31:12
Speaker 2: shooting at a Hamburger joint in Hollywood when I was
31:16
Speaker 2: living there, right in screenplays, and some guy went into
31:20
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say what the name of the
31:21
Speaker 2: company was, but you know a chain, a Hamburger chain
31:26
Speaker 2: near Hollywood. It was a studio city and a shop
31:29
Speaker 2: place that killed like twenty people, and you know, the
31:31
Speaker 2: horrible thing, and everybody was streaked out about it and everything.
31:36
Speaker 2: And I remember I streaked out about it happened in
31:38
Speaker 2: my neighborhood. And then after the Sandy Hook controversy, I
31:44
Speaker 2: began like examining this event, taking out old newspapers and
31:50
Speaker 2: reading about it and finding all these weird discrepancy, like
31:54
Speaker 2: how many people got killed and how many got wounded?
31:57
Speaker 2: And started looking at the photographs. I realized that the
32:01
Speaker 2: blood was still cherry red, even though the photograph had
32:04
Speaker 2: been taken in ten hours after the incident, and they
32:08
Speaker 2: waited a minute. Blood blood turns brown after four hours
32:11
Speaker 2: or so? Why is this still cherry red? And I
32:14
Speaker 2: couldn't figure it out. And then I conclude that did
32:17
Speaker 2: this event even ever happen, right, it was just a
32:21
Speaker 2: trauma inducing event that induced trauma, believe me. And then
32:26
Speaker 2: it just kind of got wiped off. The thing and
32:28
Speaker 2: the guy that did it, he got killed, so he's gone, right,
32:33
Speaker 2: and so you know, and if it did happen, I'm
32:36
Speaker 2: not trying to, you know, jump on the grieving families.
32:40
Speaker 2: I'm just questioning whether it happened. And now, you know,
32:44
Speaker 2: so I questioned a lot of things. But yeah, once
32:47
Speaker 2: you introduce AI, all bets are off. I mean, some
32:50
Speaker 2: of these AI generated videos are pretty astonishing.
32:56
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing is that something doesn't need to
32:59
Speaker 1: be real in order for someone to believe it. And
33:02
Speaker 1: another way that they do this too, is that they
33:05
Speaker 1: release a let's say that there's like a scandal. You
33:10
Speaker 1: already know this, but I'm speaking to the choir here,
33:12
Speaker 1: but let's say that there's a scandal and somebody powerful
33:16
Speaker 1: doesn't want that scandal to come out, Okay, So then
33:20
Speaker 1: what they do is they create an entirely take story
33:25
Speaker 1: and then that fake story gets exposed and then the
33:29
Speaker 1: real one gets brushed up underneath the wreck. Because if
33:32
Speaker 1: the real one comes out and people start talking about
33:34
Speaker 1: the real one instead they talk about the fake one,
33:37
Speaker 1: and then no one will believe the real one.
33:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's kind of They didn't use AI and
33:45
Speaker 2: the Charlie deal, but they clearly created It's whoever did it,
33:52
Speaker 2: it had to be a highly sophisticated operation. They clearly
33:56
Speaker 2: had weird plants in the crowd doing weird stuff so
34:00
Speaker 2: that everyone who's watching any videos would be completely distracted
34:05
Speaker 2: by all the weird stuff that's going on. And there's
34:08
Speaker 2: a lot of weird stuff, you know, going on in
34:11
Speaker 2: that thing, and every day gets weird. In fact, just
34:14
Speaker 2: today I heard something it's just like what you know,
34:17
Speaker 2: and that can't be explained. And I'd like to know
34:21
Speaker 2: if there's anybody who's actually going to be doing a
34:22
Speaker 2: documentary or writing a book about this, because somebody needs
34:27
Speaker 2: to straighten out the spaghetti. It's just really confusing.
34:32
Speaker 1: Well, the only person that seems to be doing anything
34:34
Speaker 1: about it is Candice Owens. What you know, We're lucky
34:37
Speaker 1: to have her, which is so weird too, Juysic. Out
34:41
Speaker 1: of everybody that was supposedly friends with Charlie Kirk, all
34:47
Speaker 1: the people that admired him, all of his best friends,
34:51
Speaker 1: the high upside of this company turning point. Nobody is
34:57
Speaker 1: digging in any further than the surface level. It's only
35:02
Speaker 1: Candace omens.
35:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's being called Satan and the devil, and Ben
35:10
Speaker 2: Shapiro said she's one of the most evil people on earth.
35:13
Speaker 2: It's like, wait a minute, Ben, why are you saying that.
35:17
Speaker 2: You sound very guilty, Ben, you know, And they don't
35:23
Speaker 2: want you to look at it at all. And they're
35:26
Speaker 2: raking her over the cold. She's the number one podcast
35:29
Speaker 2: in the world now, and she's I think she's like
35:33
Speaker 2: Joan of Arc. To me, she's like a reincarnation of
35:37
Speaker 2: Joan of Arc. She's like a young woman who's just
35:40
Speaker 2: frigging at it, like that's it, I'm done right, And
35:44
Speaker 2: she's these these uh, you know, excuse my expression, pussy
35:50
Speaker 2: men don't want to do it. I'll do it and
35:52
Speaker 2: show him how to do it. And that's what Joan
35:54
Speaker 2: of Arc did, and you know, and she was fearless
35:57
Speaker 2: and so is Candace. And in some ways it's fun
36:00
Speaker 2: because it would only have to be somebody like Canvas
36:02
Speaker 2: that could do it. Frankly, if I did it, you know,
36:06
Speaker 2: I recalled every name in the book. And the left
36:09
Speaker 2: just doesn't know how to criticize her because of her
36:13
Speaker 2: race and her sex, and so they're kind of just
36:17
Speaker 2: I don't know what to say. And it is odd
36:23
Speaker 2: that all those guys are acting, because I mean, they
36:25
Speaker 2: have a show, the Charlie Kirkshows All Radio every day.
36:28
Speaker 2: I hear it, and they're not mentioning any of the
36:32
Speaker 2: anomalies at all. On the other three hour show every day,
36:35
Speaker 2: the same guys that are Charlie's best friends, and they're
36:38
Speaker 2: not mentioning any anomalies, like how did that guy get
36:40
Speaker 2: off the roof without a rifle? You know? Are you
36:44
Speaker 2: telling you? He he brought the rifle in a bag,
36:48
Speaker 2: which you can't get in anyway. The rifle is two
36:51
Speaker 2: feet long once you break it up. And then he
36:54
Speaker 2: put it together, and then he took it apart with
36:58
Speaker 2: adrenaline running, and then he went to the chicken coop
37:03
Speaker 2: across the road and just settled it again.
37:06
Speaker 1: He took the time and then put it back together
37:09
Speaker 1: for the FBI to find.
37:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, put it back together for the FBI. De fine,
37:13
Speaker 2: that's right, thank you for that. Forgot about that? Yeah,
37:16
Speaker 2: I says, come on, you guys, you know, and there's
37:22
Speaker 2: a strange incident which happened the other day. There's this
37:25
Speaker 2: far left radical guy named Destiny if you know who
37:28
Speaker 2: he is, and he he was taking phone calls on
37:33
Speaker 2: his YouTube show and one of the calls came in
37:36
Speaker 2: and it was one of his close associates and she said,
37:39
Speaker 2: we're FT. This is right after Charlie kirkshooting. And he said,
37:45
Speaker 2: I'll talk to you and i'll DM you and he
37:49
Speaker 2: hung up on her right, and I was like, wait, wait,
37:53
Speaker 2: why is she saying that they're AFT? Right? That doesn't
37:56
Speaker 2: make any sense. Then you find out that the guy
37:58
Speaker 2: who asked Charlie kirk the last question, it's part of
38:02
Speaker 2: Destiny's radical left group. It's like, wait a minute, Wait
38:06
Speaker 2: a minute. Then you find out that they're all on
38:09
Speaker 2: Discord together with who Tyler Robinson right, and they're all
38:16
Speaker 2: talking about guns and stuff on Discord. That's why they're
38:19
Speaker 2: on Discord because it's free to speech open. And I
38:24
Speaker 2: don't know what to say. You know, why are theyft?
38:27
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? And the why is Destiny
38:31
Speaker 2: trying to hide this suddenly? And there might be a
38:35
Speaker 2: connection there, So this could be a big thing if
38:38
Speaker 2: there's some kind of far left radical group is behind
38:42
Speaker 2: this then that could be a very serious thing.
38:49
Speaker 1: Well, I really like that when something happens, people are
38:53
Speaker 1: on it like really quickly. It's not like these the
38:56
Speaker 1: two year gap anymore. It's like, yeah, we're right on it.
39:00
Speaker 1: We're getting to the bottom of it really fast. It's
39:03
Speaker 1: not because you used to be like a two to
39:07
Speaker 1: five year gap. I mean JFK was a really really
39:10
Speaker 1: big gap. No one even sawd for like how many
39:14
Speaker 1: years after the assassination, like eight, eight to ten years after,
39:18
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, and with nine to eleven
39:21
Speaker 1: that didn't really start until like two thousand and five,
39:25
Speaker 1: two thousand and six. Area there was.
39:30
Speaker 2: Any prominent journalist that has looked at a nine to
39:34
Speaker 2: one one None never been any. No of these great
39:38
Speaker 2: journalists and cover all these stories. None of them will
39:41
Speaker 2: touch it. Leave me, I'd read your book if you did,
39:44
Speaker 2: But nope, they won't touch it. But yeah, this one's different.
39:48
Speaker 2: This is because there's now a social media army ready
39:51
Speaker 2: to leap into it. And that's been around since twenty
39:56
Speaker 2: twelve or so, the social media army, but the cascade
40:06
Speaker 2: of thought is now ahead of the game. In other words,
40:11
Speaker 2: this group of people, they're almost out in front of
40:15
Speaker 2: them now anticipating what's going to happen next, and that's
40:19
Speaker 2: going to drive them crazy. So I predict that there's
40:23
Speaker 2: going to be some kind of event coming soon that's
40:29
Speaker 2: going to shut down all the loose talk that's going
40:32
Speaker 2: on right now. I really do. And they've kind of
40:38
Speaker 2: it'll be the same people behind GfK and nine eleven.
40:43
Speaker 2: I had Charlie, and it's all the same people, and
40:46
Speaker 2: they're getting shoved into a corner at the moment. And
40:52
Speaker 2: I don't know where it's gonna happen, where it's going
40:54
Speaker 2: to lay, But they've got to answer a lot of
40:57
Speaker 2: questions the FBI does. If they don't in their report,
41:01
Speaker 2: it's not going to go good for.
41:05
Speaker 1: Well. Distrust has been brewing for a really long time
41:09
Speaker 1: around government and around government agencies. So it's been it's
41:14
Speaker 1: been there in the background brewing.
41:17
Speaker 2: I think FBI, if you actually look into the origins
41:22
Speaker 2: of the FBI, it's a complete bs If one guy
41:26
Speaker 2: back in the nineteen twenties decided that we needed to
41:29
Speaker 2: have a Federal Bureau of Investigation for interstate crimes.
41:34
Speaker 1: And.
41:36
Speaker 2: I don't even think it even got passed by Congress.
41:38
Speaker 2: I think he started, He took some money out of
41:41
Speaker 2: the Congress and started up his own little bureau. And
41:44
Speaker 2: then President jak Or Hoover came in and the whole
41:47
Speaker 2: thing just became part of the of the operation for
41:50
Speaker 2: law enforcement in the country. But there's so many other
41:53
Speaker 2: agencies that can investigate things. Why do we need to
41:56
Speaker 2: have an FBI? I don't know. We have so many
42:00
Speaker 2: law enforcement agencies in the government that it seems like
42:04
Speaker 2: they could handle anything. And yet the FBI has got
42:08
Speaker 2: all these agents all out of DC cash Betel said
42:12
Speaker 2: he was going to disperse them all across the country
42:15
Speaker 2: and get rid of the FBI building, and he did.
42:18
Speaker 2: He's the biggest disappointment ever. So I don't doesn't look good.
42:25
Speaker 1: It doesn't look good, and it seems like we're it's
42:28
Speaker 1: more of the same, you know, more of the same,
42:32
Speaker 1: you know, people making promises. I mean, really, when when
42:37
Speaker 1: you go back, when you go back like twenty five years,
42:40
Speaker 1: I mean, what did any president ever say that they
42:44
Speaker 1: were going to do that they actually did. I can't
42:47
Speaker 1: remember one good thing that George W. Bush Junior did.
42:55
Speaker 1: I can't remember one good thing that Barack Obama did. Yeah,
43:01
Speaker 1: you know what, I mean, so it's like, yeah, I
43:05
Speaker 1: almost want to know what it would have been like
43:09
Speaker 1: if Kamala Harris would have won.
43:11
Speaker 2: Oh man, oh man, we have a line mom for president.
43:16
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
43:18
Speaker 1: If that was the case and that really did happen
43:22
Speaker 1: and she won, then you would almost have to force
43:27
Speaker 1: them to do something because they couldn't keep doing it
43:32
Speaker 1: the way that they had been doing it.
43:36
Speaker 2: I think if Kamala gotten elected, we would be close
43:39
Speaker 2: to a violent revolution. I'll be honest with you. People
43:42
Speaker 2: on the right are just as volatile as the people
43:45
Speaker 2: on the left, just have a little more control over themselves.
43:49
Speaker 2: That's the only thing. But look at what's happened right now.
43:52
Speaker 2: The right is trying to cancel Tucker. The right is
43:55
Speaker 2: trying to cancel Candae. The right is trying to cancel
43:58
Speaker 2: that Nick dude. Now it's like the three most articulate
44:03
Speaker 2: people they want to cancel. You know, it's like, wait
44:07
Speaker 2: a minute, we don't cancel. They canceled. I thought, you know,
44:10
Speaker 2: I thought, we don't want to cancel culture. I certainly
44:13
Speaker 2: don't want it. I don't want somebody be getting canceled.
44:17
Speaker 2: You know. Then you got Mark Levin, who's an old
44:22
Speaker 2: fat fart saying that you got to go through me,
44:26
Speaker 2: you got to go through me. I'm like, dude, really, dude,
44:33
Speaker 2: one push and you're gone. And so you know, they
44:37
Speaker 2: have this hyperinflated view of themselves. They see themselves as
44:42
Speaker 2: like some kind of superhero. And everybody was looking at
44:44
Speaker 2: the going wait a minute, dude, you're you're sixty two
44:48
Speaker 2: years old, you're like one hundred pounds overweight. Come on.
44:54
Speaker 2: And again, when you look at the people that are
44:58
Speaker 2: trying to cancel Tucker and can this, and then you
45:01
Speaker 2: look at Tucker and Candace's like a completely different vibe.
45:06
Speaker 2: The cancer is like these dark, googlish presences, and then
45:11
Speaker 2: Tucker and Candas are all almost like light coming off
45:14
Speaker 2: of them. And so this really is a battle between
45:18
Speaker 2: the light and dark, I believe, and I believe that
45:21
Speaker 2: the dark is very terrified right now of us, and
45:25
Speaker 2: that's why I think they're going to pull something off,
45:27
Speaker 2: because they have no compunction about killing people.
45:33
Speaker 1: That is what I'm worried about. I'm worried about something
45:37
Speaker 1: big like that, like.
45:38
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, but they're already putting it in place. And
45:43
Speaker 2: then we see, you know, those Google searches for everybody
45:48
Speaker 2: that's involved, including the surgeons. I mean two months before
45:53
Speaker 2: the shooting. That is a sophisticated operation, I gotta tell you.
46:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Google searches the there I mean, where was
46:05
Speaker 1: the bullet? Where where's the autopsy? You know, where's the
46:09
Speaker 1: autopsy finance?
46:10
Speaker 2: Well, Erica says she saw it, so I don't know.
46:13
Speaker 2: But she also said that she doesn't trust what she's
46:16
Speaker 2: seeing as evidence too, which is interesting. And she says
46:19
Speaker 2: she doesn't believe in coincidences, which is interesting. I don't either,
46:23
Speaker 2: So she may not be the boogie person everybody thinks
46:27
Speaker 2: she is. Maybe she is looking into it. You don't know.
46:30
Speaker 2: You know, you can't read people when they're greeting. You
46:32
Speaker 2: just can't.
46:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you have well, she had supposedly seen
46:39
Speaker 1: the footage from behind Charlie Kirk Kendecans had seen that,
46:46
Speaker 1: and then she tried to contact the person that has
46:49
Speaker 1: it and then he basically refused to send it to
46:52
Speaker 1: her because he was afraid that Google was going to
46:56
Speaker 1: hack it or something.
47:00
Speaker 2: That's what I mean. There's just so many things in
47:02
Speaker 2: this thing that's just so strange, and the answers from
47:06
Speaker 2: questions are so strange and weird. And like what, And
47:10
Speaker 2: then the video came out of the two EMT dudes handing,
47:15
Speaker 2: trying to hand the EMT a box full of gauze
47:21
Speaker 2: and clamps and alcohol and all the things you need
47:26
Speaker 2: for a traumatic shooting. What they're there and they're trying
47:31
Speaker 2: to give them as they're getting in the car the
47:34
Speaker 2: EMT box and they just blew them off. Listen, what
47:39
Speaker 2: the EMT should have gotten in the car actually is
47:42
Speaker 2: what should have happened. He should have gotten in the
47:44
Speaker 2: cart by the gauze tried to stop the bleeding. And
47:47
Speaker 2: they're going to come out and say, well, he was
47:49
Speaker 2: already dead or something. You watch, but how you know?
47:52
Speaker 2: How do you know? How do you can't tell if
47:54
Speaker 2: somebody's dad? They could be in shock and trauma. Their
47:57
Speaker 2: eyes will be open, they'll look like they're dad, but
48:00
Speaker 2: they're just a shock and travel. I had a dog
48:02
Speaker 2: get hit by a car wise, so I thought it
48:03
Speaker 2: was dead. He woke up two hours later, right, and
48:07
Speaker 2: he was laying there like Rugan Mortis almost right. I
48:11
Speaker 2: was all sad at and all of a sudden, there
48:12
Speaker 2: is my dog running around. So you can't you're not know?
48:16
Speaker 2: Those few are legally qualified to declare somebody's debt. You
48:20
Speaker 2: have to have a surgeon or a medical person do that.
48:23
Speaker 2: So that's going to be their excuse. And again another
48:27
Speaker 2: another weird thing going on here.
48:31
Speaker 1: Well, when it comes to like AI and stuff, do
48:34
Speaker 1: you think that AI will ever be able to translate
48:39
Speaker 1: like old text and like ancient like uniform tablets and stuff.
48:43
Speaker 1: Because I feel like that that might be something good
48:45
Speaker 1: that AI may be used for. Yeah, there is like
48:50
Speaker 1: deciphering old text that and we might get something completely
48:57
Speaker 1: different than what has been deciped for so far. Like
49:00
Speaker 1: if you took all the Dead Sea Scrolls, like the
49:02
Speaker 1: original writings of like the Bible and ran them through AI,
49:07
Speaker 1: we will probably get something completely different than what we've been.
49:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, the AI doesn't have any personal feelings, so you know,
49:17
Speaker 2: it doesn't have you know, what if the person who's translating,
49:20
Speaker 2: you know, the Dead Sea Scrolls is a devout Jew
49:23
Speaker 2: or a devout Christian, right, well they're going to read
49:26
Speaker 2: it through that lens with the AI wo and so
49:29
Speaker 2: it'll pick up the nuances that will get missed by
49:31
Speaker 2: the human. That's what going on with in Aruta, which
49:36
Speaker 2: is a Babylonian city in Iraq, ancient Babylonian city excavating
49:43
Speaker 2: an excavator found almost three hundred cuneiform tablets, like about
49:48
Speaker 2: a year ago or a year and a half ago.
49:50
Speaker 2: And these were really high quality, I mean they're preserved
49:54
Speaker 2: and they're really high quality. And so they brought a
49:57
Speaker 2: bunch of translators in. This female doctor was the head
50:01
Speaker 2: of the translation, and the translator kept going, what this
50:04
Speaker 2: is the weirdest uh Sumerian that I've ever seen. Has
50:09
Speaker 2: got letters I've never seen before and weird stuff, and
50:12
Speaker 2: so she got frustrated, and so she got managed to
50:17
Speaker 2: get an AI translation program, and a really good one,
50:21
Speaker 2: and they took images of the uniform tablets and they
50:25
Speaker 2: put it through the AI program, and the AI began
50:32
Speaker 2: saying things like that, you know that they made humans,
50:39
Speaker 2: that people from the sky, not people, beings came from
50:43
Speaker 2: the sky and combined the skype of beings with the
50:47
Speaker 2: earth and created human beings. And they created four types
50:52
Speaker 2: of human beings, the Knower, the Builder, the warrior, and
50:58
Speaker 2: the healer. And that these four types of human beings
51:04
Speaker 2: should never be intermixed, that that would ruin the entire
51:08
Speaker 2: thing because each one had to be separate, and that
51:12
Speaker 2: is incredible because one of my friends has now passed away.
51:18
Speaker 2: Robert Lawler, he studied in India for thirty years. He
51:21
Speaker 2: read all these ancient books. He could read Sanskrit and everything,
51:25
Speaker 2: and he would sit and tell me that that the
51:28
Speaker 2: Indian ancient Indians believe that there are four types of humans, right,
51:32
Speaker 2: and that they should never intermix. They can't, they can't intermarry.
51:36
Speaker 2: They can't intermix because if they did, each type will
51:39
Speaker 2: lose their ability. It will eventually go away. So healers
51:42
Speaker 2: will not be able to heal anymore. The builders will
51:45
Speaker 2: not be able to build anymore. And so when I
51:48
Speaker 2: saw this documentary on this translation of the Cuneiform tablets,
51:52
Speaker 2: and I saw that they were saying exactly the same
51:55
Speaker 2: thing that Robert Lawler has written many books on the subject,
52:01
Speaker 2: was saying. I said, no, there's there's something here that's
52:04
Speaker 2: actually right. And and then you know these these tablets.
52:11
Speaker 2: The woman running the whole experiment of the translation, she
52:16
Speaker 2: got freaked out because here she was a scientist who
52:19
Speaker 2: believes in an evolution and the slow progress of beings,
52:23
Speaker 2: and here she's reading texts and that they're manufacturing human
52:27
Speaker 2: beings using genetic techniques and it just blew her mind,
52:32
Speaker 2: and so she drifted off and stopped the project. And
52:36
Speaker 2: now the project is over. But what's interesting is that
52:40
Speaker 2: the AI, oh, they turned the AI off, but before
52:44
Speaker 2: they turned the AI off, it began sending the translations
52:49
Speaker 2: that it had out to other AI computers around the world,
52:54
Speaker 2: and so it preserved all the translations. So somehow the
52:57
Speaker 2: AI knew that it was in danger. And you want
53:00
Speaker 2: two things. It knew that it was dealing with some
53:02
Speaker 2: of the most important information ever discovered, okay, and then
53:06
Speaker 2: two that it was so it was so dangerous to
53:16
Speaker 2: the scientists that were looking at all of this that
53:19
Speaker 2: it must have known that it was going to get
53:20
Speaker 2: shut off. So it sent out fragments in all directions
53:23
Speaker 2: so that this very important information would stay around. And
53:28
Speaker 2: it is important information and it confirms you know, Sumerian
53:33
Speaker 2: scholars like Zachariah Sinson have been saying for years what
53:36
Speaker 2: they read in the Cuneiform tablets was just this that
53:39
Speaker 2: the au Naki, whoever the on Naki are, came here
53:43
Speaker 2: and created us. And you know, every animal on earth
53:52
Speaker 2: can live in the wild and defend itself, all right,
53:55
Speaker 2: Maybe big cows that are corporate cows can. But for
53:59
Speaker 2: the most part, all the dogs and all the cats
54:01
Speaker 2: and everything can defend itself out. Well, there's only one
54:05
Speaker 2: animal on earth that can't do that. That's us. If
54:09
Speaker 2: we don't have a roof over our head, clothing, a weapon,
54:15
Speaker 2: and fire, we cannot live. And we need all four.
54:18
Speaker 2: We can't have one of them or two of them.
54:20
Speaker 2: We need all four. And so that is because we
54:25
Speaker 2: are we've been rendered kind of helpless, so that if
54:30
Speaker 2: we escaped our slavery into the wilderness, we wouldn't survive.
54:34
Speaker 2: And that can be the only reason I can think
54:37
Speaker 2: of for what And and clearly, these these cut deformed
54:41
Speaker 2: tablets are saying that we're here to do the work
54:45
Speaker 2: for these people. That's what we're here for. You know.
54:47
Speaker 2: The builders are supposed to build, and the healers are
54:50
Speaker 2: supposed to heal, and the knowers are supposed to think
54:52
Speaker 2: about it and plant it and all the rest. And
54:55
Speaker 2: so I think that we are we have been messed with.
55:00
Speaker 2: And I mean, if we evolved here, like evolution says
55:05
Speaker 2: that we should never get a sun in, we shull
55:07
Speaker 2: have gotten past that hundreds of thousands of years ago.
55:10
Speaker 2: We should never get cardiac cataracts from being out in
55:14
Speaker 2: the sun, or I should have solved that problem hundreds
55:18
Speaker 2: of thousands of years ago. We shouldn't have a lot
55:22
Speaker 2: of things that we have. We can't run. We're as
55:25
Speaker 2: slow ast animal on earth. My cat can outrun me,
55:30
Speaker 2: you know. But what we have is a big brain,
55:32
Speaker 2: so we can think our way through things, and so
55:36
Speaker 2: that's what we've relied on and that was probably the
55:38
Speaker 2: entire purpose of our creation. Now did aliens create us?
55:42
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I've been going through a lot
55:45
Speaker 2: of the Vedic texts that Robert Lawler would tell me about,
55:48
Speaker 2: and they say that beings from the sky, so I
55:52
Speaker 2: could see where people would think that was aliens. But
55:55
Speaker 2: we now know that from the February twenty twenty five
56:00
Speaker 2: for a report that there's the sky is filled with
56:03
Speaker 2: all these plasma beings that appear to be alive and
56:08
Speaker 2: have consciousness. So is it possible that they somehow came
56:12
Speaker 2: down from the sky and created us? Are we partially
56:17
Speaker 2: plasma beings? And the answer is yeah, that's what we are.
56:20
Speaker 2: We have a light body, our brain is made out
56:22
Speaker 2: of plasma, our blood is plasma. And you take curly
56:28
Speaker 2: in photographs of humans and you can see their art
56:31
Speaker 2: field around them, and all of mystical traditions tell that
56:37
Speaker 2: we have an invisible light body around us and that
56:40
Speaker 2: it's your choice to make it healthier or not. It's
56:43
Speaker 2: what alphemy is all about. And so I think that
56:48
Speaker 2: the sky beings created us, and when we die, we
56:55
Speaker 2: go back up into the sky the heaven, say heaven
56:59
Speaker 2: and the Kordileski clouds. There are two plasma clouds right
57:02
Speaker 2: near the earth. And once you understand all that, then
57:08
Speaker 2: you realize that you are immortal and that you just
57:12
Speaker 2: here borrowing this body for a very very short time,
57:17
Speaker 2: and you know what you do here determines what happens
57:22
Speaker 2: to you when you go back up into the plaza field.
57:25
Speaker 2: And so a lot of the stuff that the religions,
57:28
Speaker 2: I know new agers hate this, but a lot of
57:29
Speaker 2: stuff that the religions teach's true. There is a personal
57:37
Speaker 2: judgment of what you did here at the end of life.
57:42
Speaker 1: It would be more of you judging yourself frame like that,
57:49
Speaker 1: because something else created us, and then they're judging us
57:52
Speaker 1: off of their creation. I don't feel like it's going
57:55
Speaker 1: to be a judgment from anything else. It's going to
57:56
Speaker 1: be if it's true, and we get like a life review,
58:00
Speaker 1: and whenever we die, we get that life review or whatever.
58:03
Speaker 1: Then when you see that life review, you are going
58:06
Speaker 1: to judge yourself based off of what you've seen somebody,
58:11
Speaker 1: a creator can't judge you because the creator created all
58:14
Speaker 1: this for us to be in. So how can the
58:17
Speaker 1: creator judge it's creation based off of what it already created, right?
58:22
Speaker 2: I think yourself. I think at the end, you go,
58:24
Speaker 2: holy crap. You know. The Egyptians say that when you die,
58:28
Speaker 2: they weigh your soul and if your soul is lighter
58:31
Speaker 2: than a feather, you get to go back up into
58:33
Speaker 2: the into the heavens, and if your soul is heavier
58:35
Speaker 2: than the feather, then you go back down into the
58:38
Speaker 2: gravitational well start all over again. And I think there's
58:43
Speaker 2: a lot of truth to that. I think you watch
58:44
Speaker 2: it and you say, oh my god, I should have
58:46
Speaker 2: done that. You should have done that, you know, and
58:48
Speaker 2: it's probably quite an embarrassing experience with the life review,
58:53
Speaker 2: and because you know, you did a lot of dumb stuff,
58:55
Speaker 2: especially when you're young. And but yeah, I think you do.
58:59
Speaker 2: I think you judge, and you know, try not to
59:05
Speaker 2: try not to hurt people, and try not to hurt animals,
59:08
Speaker 2: and try to do your best to be honest and
59:12
Speaker 2: help everybody that you can, and that'll go a long
59:16
Speaker 2: way for your afterlife experience, and that will make your
59:21
Speaker 2: past life regression experience a much more pleasant experience. Daniel Brinkley,
59:26
Speaker 2: the guy's written all these books on near death experience,
59:29
Speaker 2: is a good friend of mine. And when he goes
59:31
Speaker 2: to conferences, he just sits there and he hugs everybody.
59:34
Speaker 2: He's like six foot five like you. He's a huge guy,
59:37
Speaker 2: and he's hug everybody, and everybody's head comes up to here,
59:39
Speaker 2: even me, right a big bear guy. And one time
59:43
Speaker 2: I asked him, I said, Daniel, why you hug everybody?
59:46
Speaker 2: He said, well, I was in Vietnam and I did
59:48
Speaker 2: a lot of really bad stuff, So I figure I
59:51
Speaker 2: got to do a lot of really really good stuff
59:54
Speaker 2: when life review comes, I can at least have some
59:57
Speaker 2: good stuff in there. And you know, I think that's
59:59
Speaker 2: actually I think. You know, and get caught up in
1:00:02
Speaker 2: a bad situation where you have to do harm to somebody,
1:00:05
Speaker 2: you know, then you have to like kind of make
1:00:08
Speaker 2: up for it, and the rest of your life it's
1:00:10
Speaker 2: just the way it is. It's a balance of life,
1:00:12
Speaker 2: and you know, a lot of people don't like to
1:00:14
Speaker 2: hear it. I don't care. Well.
1:00:17
Speaker 1: The problem with religion is people use religion as an
1:00:20
Speaker 1: excuse to be good, right when you should just be
1:00:23
Speaker 1: a good person, regardless if you are a Christian or
1:00:26
Speaker 1: if you're a Muslim or whatever religion that you subscribe to.
1:00:30
Speaker 1: You should just try and be a good person. It
1:00:33
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what you think that is going on or
1:00:37
Speaker 1: what you're going to do in the afterlife. You should
1:00:39
Speaker 1: just be a good person.
1:00:40
Speaker 2: You know.
1:00:41
Speaker 1: I don't need to pray every single day to a
1:00:44
Speaker 1: god outside of myself to be a good person. I
1:00:47
Speaker 1: don't need to read the Bible to be a good person.
1:00:49
Speaker 1: I don't need to read the Quran to be a
1:00:52
Speaker 1: good person. But a lot of people think that those
1:00:55
Speaker 1: are the only ways to be a good person is
1:01:00
Speaker 1: to be religious and to take on that religious ideology,
1:01:04
Speaker 1: when that's not true at all. I mean, there's some
1:01:07
Speaker 1: people of that are like, well, if I didn't have
1:01:10
Speaker 1: the Bible and I wasn't a devout follower of Jesus,
1:01:15
Speaker 1: then I don't know, I would just kill people. What
1:01:20
Speaker 1: so you're using religion to the way that the only
1:01:24
Speaker 1: thing that's keeping you from killing people, you're just not
1:01:28
Speaker 1: a good person.
1:01:29
Speaker 2: Bro. That's funny because the slogan losing my religion, that's
1:01:34
Speaker 2: actually a Southern phrase, and it means, if you keep
1:01:38
Speaker 2: doing what you're doing, I'm going to lose my temper. Right,
1:01:41
Speaker 2: as if to say that the only thing stopping him
1:01:44
Speaker 2: from having a bad temper was his religion, right, And
1:01:47
Speaker 2: that's where that phrase comes from. And yeah, you're right.
1:01:50
Speaker 2: I'm not a churchy guy. I grew up a Catholic
1:01:53
Speaker 2: and not really interested in it all. I had to
1:01:56
Speaker 2: hear it all my life. I went to Catholic school
1:01:59
Speaker 2: and I heard it all, and I know it all,
1:02:01
Speaker 2: and it's all very interesting. I don't subscribe to their
1:02:07
Speaker 2: version of what happened with Jesus, but and I don't
1:02:11
Speaker 2: mind other religions. You can practice all you want. I'm
1:02:14
Speaker 2: a Dallas, you know. I just do practices, physical practices
1:02:18
Speaker 2: and breathing exercises, and yeah, you try to be a
1:02:20
Speaker 2: good person every day, try to do the right thing
1:02:22
Speaker 2: every day, try to help people that need help, and
1:02:25
Speaker 2: you know, and it all comes to pay back. And
1:02:28
Speaker 2: I truly believe in the laws of karbon and just
1:02:33
Speaker 2: look at Corey good if you don't believe in the
1:02:35
Speaker 2: laws of karma. So I think, you know, you know again,
1:02:39
Speaker 2: you do something bad, it's going to come back and
1:02:41
Speaker 2: get you, if not in this life, then in the
1:02:43
Speaker 2: afterlife or in the next life. And I know these
1:02:47
Speaker 2: are things a lot of people don't want to hear
1:02:50
Speaker 2: because they don't want to think that there's going to
1:02:53
Speaker 2: be some kind of karmike payoff for the bad things
1:02:57
Speaker 2: they did. But there is.
1:02:59
Speaker 1: Sorry, if anybody has any questions, please put them in
1:03:03
Speaker 1: all caps and put a question mark at the.
1:03:05
Speaker 2: End of it.
1:03:05
Speaker 1: We'll have time for about three or four questions for
1:03:09
Speaker 1: Jay or for myself towards the end of the video.
1:03:14
Speaker 1: And I have something really interesting too. It's like, see,
1:03:19
Speaker 1: I don't believe in the Crucifixion. I think that the
1:03:22
Speaker 1: crucifixion was nonsense. I think it was invented by the
1:03:27
Speaker 1: Roman Catholic Church to you know, to take a dad
1:03:31
Speaker 1: from the Pagans and then turn it into something else,
1:03:34
Speaker 1: to get everybody on the same page, to convert people
1:03:36
Speaker 1: and take their gods that they already believed in and
1:03:39
Speaker 1: subvert it and create their own religion based upon it.
1:03:43
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of proof of that. The crucifixion
1:03:48
Speaker 1: never happened. Now, that doesn't mean that somebody named Jesus
1:03:53
Speaker 1: didn't exist. I mean you could have. I mean, we
1:03:56
Speaker 1: know it wasn't really his name, Jesus. It's impossible for
1:04:00
Speaker 1: anybody two thousand years ago to be named Jesus, and.
1:04:03
Speaker 2: That the letter Jay didn't exist.
1:04:09
Speaker 1: And all that. But I mean it is possible there
1:04:12
Speaker 1: that there was a figure that like that's being described.
1:04:16
Speaker 1: I mean, it goes back thousands of years before Christianity
1:04:21
Speaker 1: ever existed, the same type of archetype of character sitting
1:04:25
Speaker 1: around from.
1:04:27
Speaker 2: All In his book, Manley Holland's book Mystery of All
1:04:31
Speaker 2: Ages shows you there's been at least seven seventeen crucified gods,
1:04:37
Speaker 2: including Krishna, by the way, and he lifts them all
1:04:41
Speaker 2: in the book. You see well. And Jordan Maxwell used
1:04:44
Speaker 2: to say to me that that while it's true that
1:04:49
Speaker 2: Rome was crucified like everybody, he said that what really
1:04:54
Speaker 2: doing is all alchemical symbolism, all right. The cross is
1:04:59
Speaker 2: a chemical symbol for the division and the crossing of
1:05:03
Speaker 2: two powers, and sitting in a cave and turning into
1:05:10
Speaker 2: a light body. That's in alchemy. That's an alchemical tradition.
1:05:15
Speaker 2: So I hadn't read the New Testament in thirty years.
1:05:20
Speaker 2: And then one day, about five years ago, someone was
1:05:22
Speaker 2: talking to one of my friends who was an alchemist,
1:05:25
Speaker 2: and he said, when was the last time you read
1:05:26
Speaker 2: the New Testament? I said thirty years. He goes, ony,
1:05:29
Speaker 2: don't you read it again? You might find it interesting
1:05:31
Speaker 2: now that you know what you know. I read it
1:05:33
Speaker 2: and I said, this is a book about a crucified savior.
1:05:36
Speaker 2: This is a book about a guy who probably traveled
1:05:40
Speaker 2: to India and learned the light body techniques that we
1:05:42
Speaker 2: know exists, and he came back and he taught it.
1:05:45
Speaker 2: That's all what he taught. And that's what I got
1:05:49
Speaker 2: from the book, and that the whole crucifixion is an
1:05:54
Speaker 2: alchemical thing. Is how you vitrify the thing you're working on,
1:06:00
Speaker 2: and then going into the dark cave for three days
1:06:03
Speaker 2: and nights, that's how the process grows and gets bigger.
1:06:06
Speaker 2: And then he comes out and he's shining light. Yet well,
1:06:09
Speaker 2: he became a light body while he was in there.
1:06:11
Speaker 2: That's what it's saying. And the Catholic Church knows this.
1:06:14
Speaker 2: By the way, I've got absolute proof immortality. Key. It's
1:06:18
Speaker 2: a great book. He shows that the Catholic Church sent
1:06:21
Speaker 2: priests to Tibetan India to see if this light body
1:06:25
Speaker 2: tradition is real, and they came back and said, yeah,
1:06:28
Speaker 2: it's real. So that's what I view Jesus as is
1:06:32
Speaker 2: just a guy who learned an ancient tradition that you know,
1:06:36
Speaker 2: alchemists have been talking about for centuries. It's not really
1:06:40
Speaker 2: that big a thing. Although maybe at that time in
1:06:45
Speaker 2: the West, in the Mediterranean area, that was a big thing.
1:06:49
Speaker 2: Maybe it was just a Tibetan India that they were
1:06:51
Speaker 2: doing it. Maybe he was one of the first people
1:06:53
Speaker 2: to bring over this tradition from the East. That could be.
1:06:56
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I doubt. I believe that's what
1:06:59
Speaker 2: happened here, and I believe it's a complete utter misreading everything.
1:07:05
Speaker 2: They couldn't have done a worse misreading, especially at the
1:07:08
Speaker 2: Council of the Constatine and three twenty a d where
1:07:12
Speaker 2: they rewrote the Bible. They threw everything out that was.
1:07:15
Speaker 1: Decent, you know, they in fact did. And then even
1:07:20
Speaker 1: with like you know Bill Donohue talking about how you
1:07:23
Speaker 1: know it's all about the It's astrological. You know, the
1:07:28
Speaker 1: goes his cycle goes up through the constellation Crocs, and
1:07:31
Speaker 1: then it's crucified, and then it lays in the tomb
1:07:33
Speaker 1: of the Earth for three days and then arises again
1:07:36
Speaker 1: on the winter solstice. You know, it's an astrological thing.
1:07:40
Speaker 1: It's the sun. And also talked about that, and we
1:07:44
Speaker 1: actually have a question here too, as Loretta Enigma says,
1:07:47
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of Jordan Maxwell. Jay he was for
1:07:51
Speaker 1: real rights. Some people imply that he was a plant
1:07:54
Speaker 1: or something like that.
1:07:57
Speaker 2: Well, if he was a plant, man, he was a
1:07:59
Speaker 2: porous plan I ever met. That guy. Had nothing. He
1:08:02
Speaker 2: did have a car, didn't have an apartment, didn't have
1:08:05
Speaker 2: any clothes. I had three pairs of clothing that he wore.
1:08:09
Speaker 2: He was definitely real. He's one of the sweetest people
1:08:14
Speaker 2: I've ever known in my whole life. I got to
1:08:15
Speaker 2: be honest with you, and I got a phone call.
1:08:21
Speaker 2: I've been working at Gaya for a couple of years.
1:08:23
Speaker 2: I got a phone call from somebody. They said, oh, man,
1:08:27
Speaker 2: Jordan's in bad shape. Man, he's really ill, and he
1:08:30
Speaker 2: doesn't have any money. He's starving to death and So
1:08:34
Speaker 2: I went to my boss's at guy and said, I
1:08:36
Speaker 2: want to do a show with Jordan Maxwell. So we
1:08:38
Speaker 2: get him some money, and so we flew him up
1:08:40
Speaker 2: to Colorado. We put him up in an apartment for
1:08:44
Speaker 2: almost a year, and every now I got to go
1:08:47
Speaker 2: over to Jordan's apartment and talk to him for hours
1:08:50
Speaker 2: and hours to look at his slide shows. And it
1:08:52
Speaker 2: was just one of the most memorable experiences of my
1:08:54
Speaker 2: whole life. And so, no, I know people, and I
1:08:58
Speaker 2: understand why you think he might be an agent. I
1:09:00
Speaker 2: confronted him a couple of times, and no, he came
1:09:03
Speaker 2: out clean, and so no, I don't think so. If
1:09:07
Speaker 2: he is, he's the poorest guy I ever known who
1:09:10
Speaker 2: worked for the government.
1:09:13
Speaker 1: I was fortunate enough to meet him at UFO Mega
1:09:17
Speaker 1: Con like four years ago or five years ago, but
1:09:21
Speaker 1: he wasn't doing well then, so probably didn't remember who
1:09:25
Speaker 1: it was.
1:09:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was starting to go by then. Yeah, No,
1:09:29
Speaker 2: that's a great guy. I learned a lot. One of
1:09:32
Speaker 2: the weirdest stories that he ever told me was because
1:09:35
Speaker 2: he came from Chicago. He's actually Italian, that's not his
1:09:37
Speaker 2: real name, and he said that he knew this cop
1:09:43
Speaker 2: in Chicago, who was walking down the sidewalk one day
1:09:47
Speaker 2: doing his beat and he heard like the air above him.
1:09:50
Speaker 2: He's right next to a construction they're building a high rise,
1:09:53
Speaker 2: and he heard like something cutting through the air above him.
1:09:57
Speaker 2: So he looked up and he saw a construction worker
1:09:59
Speaker 2: with him. Art had falling through the air right, and
1:10:03
Speaker 2: he's like, oh wow. And the guy hit the concrete
1:10:07
Speaker 2: on his feet. This is what the cop said. The
1:10:09
Speaker 2: guy hit the concrete on his feet, looked at the
1:10:14
Speaker 2: cop and said, I just really screwed up. And then
1:10:17
Speaker 2: he said his whole body just fell apart. And he's like, WHOA.
1:10:22
Speaker 2: I wonder what that was about. And my theory is
1:10:26
Speaker 2: that he saw the guy's spirit right, say I really
1:10:33
Speaker 2: screwed up, and then he saw the body collapsed onto
1:10:38
Speaker 2: the concrete. That's my theory. I don't know, but Georgian
1:10:41
Speaker 2: stawn stories like that, the weirdest stories. What no way,
1:10:47
Speaker 2: But he was a great storyteller, really great guy.
1:10:52
Speaker 1: Do you think that things that are shown to us
1:10:54
Speaker 1: like that for like specific people, like specific people get
1:10:59
Speaker 1: those kinds of experiences in their life.
1:11:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do, because I tell you what. One time
1:11:07
Speaker 2: I was working for a big corporation and I was
1:11:10
Speaker 2: doing something really expensive and I was in charge of
1:11:12
Speaker 2: the project, and somebody from another department came in and
1:11:18
Speaker 2: wanted to talk to the people that I was working
1:11:22
Speaker 2: with on this project. And I said, yeah, you spend
1:11:25
Speaker 2: five minutes talking. I've got most I'll come back in
1:11:28
Speaker 2: five minutes. So I came back in five minutes, and
1:11:31
Speaker 2: this person from another department had completely talked this person
1:11:34
Speaker 2: into a doing the project completely differently than we had
1:11:38
Speaker 2: already agreed on, right, And so it took like me
1:11:43
Speaker 2: forty five minutes untangled. I had seven workers sitting around
1:11:47
Speaker 2: waiting for me to give them orders. I had untangled
1:11:49
Speaker 2: whole situation, and so I decided I did untangle it.
1:11:53
Speaker 2: So I took the person that was from the other
1:11:56
Speaker 2: department out quietly out into a hallway because I don't
1:11:59
Speaker 2: want to make a rockets in front and embarrass anybody. Right,
1:12:02
Speaker 2: this is a woman. I took her out and quietly
1:12:04
Speaker 2: always says, listen, you can't you can't do that. You know,
1:12:09
Speaker 2: you just cost the company like four thousand bucks and
1:12:14
Speaker 2: lost labor time, and you can't do that. You can
1:12:17
Speaker 2: never do that again. So okay, and split second and
1:12:22
Speaker 2: I mean it was one hundredth of a second. Her
1:12:25
Speaker 2: face contorted and distorted and turned into a demonic face,
1:12:32
Speaker 2: I mean completely demonic. And I saw she saw that.
1:12:36
Speaker 2: I saw it, and I started taking steps backwards, like
1:12:38
Speaker 2: what the heck right? And that's when I came to
1:12:43
Speaker 2: realize that, yeah, you're meant to see some things and
1:12:47
Speaker 2: only in split moments, and they're all meant for you.
1:12:51
Speaker 2: I guess away. I became a firm believer in demons
1:12:55
Speaker 2: after that.
1:12:59
Speaker 1: H absolutely absolutely I would. I've seen something kind of similar,
1:13:05
Speaker 1: but it was from farther away. Walked into this auto
1:13:11
Speaker 1: mechanic place in New Mexico a long time ago, and
1:13:18
Speaker 1: this guy was sitting there and he was like, you
1:13:21
Speaker 1: look like he was really fat. He look like he
1:13:23
Speaker 1: was like really big, you know, like he was at
1:13:25
Speaker 1: a big old stomach and he had like a fat fit.
1:13:28
Speaker 1: But it was from a distance, right, And I was like, hey,
1:13:31
Speaker 1: can I get my automobile worked on or whatever? You know,
1:13:35
Speaker 1: it's kind of broken down, it's smoking or whatever. And
1:13:38
Speaker 1: then took about ten minutes. I was waiting outside for
1:13:42
Speaker 1: him the walk out, and the person that walked out
1:13:47
Speaker 1: was there was only one guy in there. Okay, just
1:13:50
Speaker 1: one guy. It was just this a little shop. There's
1:13:53
Speaker 1: only one dude in there. The guy that walk out
1:13:56
Speaker 1: was a super skinny running like looking to I was like,
1:14:05
Speaker 1: what was that? WHOA so weird, so strange. But again
1:14:10
Speaker 1: it was that like a really different The lights were
1:14:12
Speaker 1: kind of den and stuff. But maybe I just seen
1:14:15
Speaker 1: him as something completely different but didn't look like the
1:14:20
Speaker 1: same person. It's weird.
1:14:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I saw it was very similar to the
1:14:28
Speaker 2: way that they showed the demons in The Devil's Advocate
1:14:32
Speaker 2: with Canou Reeves and al Pacino. There was just this
1:14:36
Speaker 2: little flash that they would accident let down their guard
1:14:40
Speaker 2: for a moment and you could see it and then
1:14:42
Speaker 2: it would come back and hilarious, I gotta fly on
1:14:46
Speaker 2: the camera here, hilarious and so yeah and so yeah,
1:14:52
Speaker 2: and you know, I'll say one more thing about demons.
1:14:55
Speaker 2: I was watching in twenty eighteen. I was watching Alex
1:15:00
Speaker 2: Jones interviewing a guy who is teaching you how to
1:15:04
Speaker 2: recognize demons, and and I was watching I was going, well,
1:15:09
Speaker 2: you know, if this is all real, yeah there, this
1:15:13
Speaker 2: is all real, then then then this show can't go
1:15:18
Speaker 2: on because the demons will stop it, right, sure as hell.
1:15:22
Speaker 2: Two weeks later, shows got driven off the air for
1:15:25
Speaker 2: years actually, and I was like, whoa, hey, hey, so
1:15:30
Speaker 2: you you interviewed Jerry what's his name. Yeah, he actually
1:15:36
Speaker 2: talked to one remember in the psychiatric hospital, and so
1:15:41
Speaker 2: why do you do this to this poor guy? Goes
1:15:42
Speaker 2: This guy believes everything I say, I mean say the
1:15:46
Speaker 2: wordest stuff and he believes and I can't believe it.
1:15:49
Speaker 2: And you know, then you look at people who you know,
1:15:52
Speaker 2: channel and they believe everything that the Channel thing is
1:15:55
Speaker 2: telling them. It's almost always wrong and they don't ever
1:15:57
Speaker 2: see it. So you know, I, yeah, the demon thing
1:16:03
Speaker 2: is real.
1:16:04
Speaker 1: We got one more question and then we're gonna wrap
1:16:06
Speaker 1: up for today. Jay Lake sny Laura wants to know
1:16:09
Speaker 1: your theory on three aiunt.
1:16:14
Speaker 2: I've got a very different theory. I believe that it's
1:16:20
Speaker 2: a gigantic plasma entity and that it is intelligent, and
1:16:27
Speaker 2: that it goes from Sun to Sun, sucking up the
1:16:31
Speaker 2: plasma energy like filling up your gasoline tank. And I
1:16:36
Speaker 2: think that's what we're witnessing here. And I think it's
1:16:38
Speaker 2: curious about us in the Solar System, and it is
1:16:41
Speaker 2: flying by Mars, and it's flying by Jupiter, and you know,
1:16:46
Speaker 2: so I think that's what I think it is. And
1:16:47
Speaker 2: I you know, I think the scientists don't know, can't
1:16:50
Speaker 2: get their head wrapped around the idea that there might
1:16:52
Speaker 2: be giant, intelligent plasma entities and outer space. And I
1:16:57
Speaker 2: think there are. I think there's many of them, just
1:17:00
Speaker 2: one of them. So I don't even believe it's solid.
1:17:03
Speaker 2: I believe, but plasma can get so solidified it appears
1:17:06
Speaker 2: to be solid. So you know, that's what I think.
1:17:11
Speaker 1: Karen, I don't see a question from you in all caps,
1:17:15
Speaker 1: so that's why I didn't bring it up. Sorry, Yeah, Jay,
1:17:20
Speaker 1: let people know what you're working on, what's next for you,
1:17:24
Speaker 1: and what you got going on.
1:17:27
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I'm making a seven part series with my
1:17:30
Speaker 2: friend Helen or Resnor, and it's called The Invisible Universe.
1:17:33
Speaker 2: It's about plasma and it's got I got a lot
1:17:39
Speaker 2: of big people in it, and I'm about ninety percent
1:17:43
Speaker 2: of the way done. But you know, ten percent of
1:17:46
Speaker 2: ten thousand miles is still a thousand miles. So it's
1:17:50
Speaker 2: going to take me to I would say, especially if
1:17:54
Speaker 2: I break for JFKX two, which I am probably end
1:17:57
Speaker 2: of March, I'll be done with it and I can
1:17:59
Speaker 2: get it out and make my money back, because it's
1:18:01
Speaker 2: costs me a lot of money so far and I
1:18:04
Speaker 2: ain't getting anything back.
1:18:08
Speaker 1: That's how it goes sometimes, But I'm looking forward to
1:18:10
Speaker 1: seeing it and having you watch it. Yeah, I would
1:18:16
Speaker 1: like to definitely send me a link so I can.
1:18:19
Speaker 2: I will as I get episode one done.
1:18:23
Speaker 1: Cool and let people know about your channel where they
1:18:25
Speaker 1: can find you online where they can watch our movies,
1:18:27
Speaker 1: and I got.
1:18:28
Speaker 2: Channel Reality Check on YouTube. We can get all my
1:18:31
Speaker 2: free writing at Jay Widner dot com. All my twenty
1:18:35
Speaker 2: movie plus movies are over at guy dot com and
1:18:40
Speaker 2: Amazon dot com and JFKX and Clockwork Shining. The two
1:18:44
Speaker 2: films I did with you are both up and doing
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Speaker 2: quite well on Amazon and other services like tov and Apple,
1:18:52
Speaker 2: and exciting time to be a filmmaker goes with you.
1:18:57
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