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Carlos King, Real Housewife Fired and Should I Sue? · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: Christmas shopping has already started in our house. My daughter
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  Speaker 1: is so organised, already planning Christmas gifts from Macaulay. Hair
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  Speaker 1: care for her aunt and a fab fragrance for her bestie.
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  Speaker 1: But the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I'm
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  Speaker 1: an early bird, buying one present a week from now
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  Speaker 1: till Christmas, which makes budgeting less stressful. I can buy
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  Speaker 1: in-store or online from Macaulay.ie for home delivery or free
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  Speaker 1: click and collect.
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  Speaker 2: So easy.
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  Speaker 1: Gifts they'll cherish at prices you'll love.
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  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have one of
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  Speaker 2: your return favorites. He is such a delight. He's a
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  Speaker 2: powerhouse in the reality world. He has his own podcast,
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  Speaker 2: his own production company. Carlos King, welcome back to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 3: I'm back. I'm not the white girl in Poltergeist. I'm
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  Speaker 3: back and I'm staring at the screen looking at my
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  Speaker 3: beautiful doll, Heather McDonald.
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  Speaker 2: And I just said before we started, I go... So
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  Speaker 2: great that you're here. There's nothing better than a God-fearing gay.
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  Speaker 3: That's my new hashtag.
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  Speaker 2: I love it because you're very spiritual.
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  Speaker 3: Very.
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  Speaker 2: And you're very gay. And I like that combo. Who
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  Speaker 2: says you can't be both in 2025?
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  Speaker 3: Am I more spiritual or more gay?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's an equal, and I love it.
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  Speaker 3: I think so, too.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're going to love it.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: You give very inspirational things. Thank you. Along with the gossip. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of, like, how to improve your life.
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  Speaker 3: I make gossip being God-fearing gay. Yes, yes. There you go.
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  Speaker 3: How about that?
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  Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. Welcome to the new year.
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  Speaker 2: So much to get into. We're going to talk lots
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  Speaker 2: about the Bravo world. But the story that I was just,
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  Speaker 2: how can I say? I think this story I could
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  Speaker 2: not be less surprised by. And that's Jennifer Aiden of
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  Speaker 2: Real Housewives of New Jersey, not only going off on
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  Speaker 2: the people making the beautiful Jersey Mike's, Listen, raising two boys,
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  Speaker 2: Jersey Mike's has been a big part of our diet.
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  Speaker 2: I love Jersey Mike's. They're wonderful sandwiches with top quality ingredients.
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  Speaker 2: But let me tell you what happened. Jennifer Aiden has
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  Speaker 2: been on Real Housewives of New Jersey for like probably what,
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  Speaker 2: four or five seasons?
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  Speaker 3: Like five, like maybe a while, maybe five or six.
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  Speaker 3: It's been a while. It's been a while.
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  Speaker 2: And she is a mother of five. She is, she Armenian. Armenian.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, she's Armenian. She has a successful plastic surgeon husband.
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  Speaker 2: And she's very about, you know, like a housewife, but
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  Speaker 2: very into the blings and the fashions and all that.
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  Speaker 2: And best friends with Teresa Giudice, who's the star of
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  Speaker 2: the show. And she and her friend and their kids were...
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  Speaker 2: It was 7 a.m. They're at the airport. And they go,
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  Speaker 2: we need some food. And she's filming it.
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  Speaker 3: She's walking.
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  Speaker 2: We are hungry. What do I want? We're going to
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  Speaker 2: the Bahamas or something. And She's in the line for
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  Speaker 2: Jersey Mike's as the people are making sandwiches. And she
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  Speaker 2: starts to, she filmed all this and posted it. And
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  Speaker 2: she starts to get in a fight with this guy
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  Speaker 2: about something. And she's like, you're an asshole.
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  Speaker 3: You're an asshole.
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  Speaker 2: You're an asshole. And he's like, and then she's, you know,
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  Speaker 2: arguing with the people wanting to make, then she takes
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  Speaker 2: the phone and she complained saying this woman who was
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  Speaker 2: working behind the counter, this 80 year old woman, um,
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  Speaker 2: When I wanted to add another sandwich, she's like, you're
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  Speaker 2: going to have to get back in line. Why should
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  Speaker 2: I get back in line? You know, all this other stuff.
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  Speaker 2: You're 80. Why are you even working here? And then
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  Speaker 2: this guy said, me and my fake diamonds. I'm like, honey,
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  Speaker 2: this is real diamonds. My husband's a plastic surgeon. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: and she also, well, she was in line with everybody
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  Speaker 2: and filming all these people that are just waiting in
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  Speaker 2: line like everyone else. She's screaming, I'm a celebrity. I'm
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  Speaker 2: a celebrity.
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  Speaker 3: Get me out there.
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  Speaker 2: She puts it all out there. And thank you to
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  Speaker 2: the gods that follow this stuff and caught it and
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  Speaker 2: downloaded it and had shared it to the world because probably,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how long after she posted all the
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  Speaker 2: stories about it, how long they were up before she
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  Speaker 2: realized someone called her and was like, take it down.
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  Speaker 2: So when I saw this, like I said, oh, and
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  Speaker 2: the other thing that I found out, and forgive me
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  Speaker 2: to the guy that I follow that We had a
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  Speaker 2: TikTok about this that was the most disturbing part of
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  Speaker 2: the story. Because she's taking her sandwich and she's getting
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  Speaker 2: on a plane, right? Yes. It was a tuna fish sandwich.
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  Speaker 3: Who eats tuna fish at 7 a.m.? And then.
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  Speaker 2: Brings that silly shit on a plane? Like that just
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  Speaker 2: also tells, if you didn't think she was an entitled
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  Speaker 2: bitch already that didn't care about other people's feelings or nostrils,
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  Speaker 2: that's who she is.
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  Speaker 3: Because the thing is when you eat a tuna sandwich,
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  Speaker 3: it has to come out in other areas.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, and it's wafting smell and everything about it. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I, when I say I'm not surprised is
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  Speaker 2: because like, you know, the housewives are wealthy. They're about fashion.
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  Speaker 2: They're all of this. And you'd say most are probably
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  Speaker 2: on the narcissistic thing or vain or whatever. But, like,
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  Speaker 2: if you found out, like, Kyle Richards did this, we
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  Speaker 2: would be shocked.
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  Speaker 3: For sure. Shocked.
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  Speaker 2: Like, there's so many housewives that you and I know
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  Speaker 2: and stuff that are these divas. But you'd be like,
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  Speaker 2: holy fuck, I can't believe this person acts like this. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: I have to say... this is her. This is who
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  Speaker 2: she's always been. She's shown this over and over and
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  Speaker 2: over again. And you know, she's not like this super
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  Speaker 2: likable character to me. I interviewed, she was fine. She
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  Speaker 2: was funny a few years ago, whatever. She, you know, did,
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  Speaker 2: it did do fun impressions of the other people, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't feel like there's Jennifer Aiden stands the way
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  Speaker 2: they are for Teresa, for other people, for an Erica Jane,
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  Speaker 2: for people that just kind of have a little more
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  Speaker 2: going for them and their personality and whatnot. And, um, so,
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  Speaker 2: One of the things is you're supposed to go on
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  Speaker 2: a cruise with Dolores and Teresa. Wives by the sea
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  Speaker 2: or something.
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  Speaker 3: Wives with the waves.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Sounds like.
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  Speaker 2: A nightmare, honestly, for the wives. Like, I love everybody
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  Speaker 2: that is going on this cruise that I'm not being
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  Speaker 2: mean to the Bravo, but like, I mean, this is
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  Speaker 2: them being like.
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  Speaker 3: You're stuck.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're stuck. It's the money grab. But the three
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  Speaker 2: of us will handle it, you know, whatever. And we've
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  Speaker 2: got to make our money because who knows? We still
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  Speaker 2: don't know if the show's coming back, correct?
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  Speaker 3: It's not coming back until 2026.
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  Speaker 2: Are they waiting for the girl from, are they waiting
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  Speaker 2: for Jen Shah to get out of Rikers and join
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  Speaker 2: that cast? What are they waiting for so long?
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  Speaker 3: What's the scoop? So Andy Cohen revealed recently that is
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  Speaker 3: not returning until 2026. And we're just in the start
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  Speaker 3: of 2025. Jersey is going through an entire makeover. We
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  Speaker 3: don't know, Heather, exactly what that makeover is going to
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  Speaker 3: look like. I strongly believe it's not going to be
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  Speaker 3: a reboot a la The Real Housewives of New York City.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry.
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  Speaker 3: It's not going to be to that degree, but they're
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  Speaker 3: figuring things out, right? I think we all know, and listen,
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  Speaker 3: I love Jennifer Aiden. I met her, too. She's a
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  Speaker 3: fun girl. I think we all know that Jennifer Aiden
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  Speaker 3: is not coming back.
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  Speaker 2: I think she would have, maybe, had this not happened. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: you don't think she would have anyway? This just sealed
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  Speaker 2: the deal.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it was happening even prior to... I
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  Speaker 3: just don't think it was happening at all.
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  Speaker 2: I just think when someone does something like this, it
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  Speaker 2: really shows you who they are. There's things that people
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  Speaker 2: fuck up that are somewhat cancelable situations. And it was
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  Speaker 2: because they were drunk or it was whatever. They can
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  Speaker 2: immediately sign up for rehab the next day. She wasn't drunk.
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  Speaker 2: She had her hair and makeup done. She was lucid.
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  Speaker 2: There's no excuse. Her kid wasn't crying. There's nothing to
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  Speaker 2: it except that you are an entitled bitch. You are
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  Speaker 2: already entitled and then we made you a star. And
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  Speaker 2: that just made you a worse, worse, worse person than
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  Speaker 2: you probably were before. And You're not necessary anyway. So
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  Speaker 2: that is done. I think she's done, done. I don't
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  Speaker 2: even think they're going to want her for traitors or anything.
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  Speaker 3: House of villains.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe if they get desperate, whatever. But maybe
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  Speaker 2: house of villains and she'll have to defend the Jersey
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  Speaker 2: Mikes and then somebody comes and brings a big, long
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  Speaker 2: thing of Jersey Mikes. But do you remember, this is
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  Speaker 2: a long time ago pop culture story, and this was
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  Speaker 2: like before TikToks, before people could do reels, but there
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  Speaker 2: was social media. There was this pretty girl who was
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  Speaker 2: like a rising star at like ESPN or something. And
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  Speaker 2: she went to retrieve her car that was towed from
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  Speaker 2: a tow truck place. And she was blonde and cute,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know her name, but she was horrible
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  Speaker 2: to the woman working behind the desk. And the thing
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  Speaker 2: caught it, you know, because they had the videos there.
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  Speaker 2: And she was like, you know, you don't know who
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  Speaker 2: I am, and I'm rich, and you're a loser for
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  Speaker 2: working here. I don't, it was, the story was like...
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  Speaker 2: And that was it. Like, she disappeared.
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  Speaker 3: Did she get fired? Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We've never heard from her since. If somebody knows who
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  Speaker 2: she is, I would love to talk to her today.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully she's living a good life and has an interesting
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  Speaker 2: story of what the backlash is like after something like this.
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  Speaker 2: Something tells me Jennifer Aiden went on to have, like,
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  Speaker 2: a really great vacation with her family so the haters can.
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  Speaker 3: Go fuck off.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I can just see it. Like, I don't even
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  Speaker 2: think she cares.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think she cares either. I don't think she
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  Speaker 3: cares either. Listen... What we loved about Jennifer Aiden on
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  Speaker 3: the show was the fact that she was over the top.
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  Speaker 3: She is this bougie diva. And these are all things
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  Speaker 3: that is interesting in a reality star, especially when you're
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  Speaker 3: on Housewives. I think the issue is when that translates
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  Speaker 3: in real life as you're interfacing with information. working to
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  Speaker 3: service you. I love Jennifer Aiden, but I will admit
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  Speaker 3: I was very disappointed in seeing that because, number one,
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  Speaker 3: you can't talk to people that way. And number two,
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  Speaker 3: to disrespect people who are in the business of customer
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  Speaker 3: service at a restaurant is At an airport at 7 a.m.
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  Speaker 2: During the holiday. And it was New Year's Day. So
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  Speaker 2: did those people get to have a fun New Year's Eve? No,
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  Speaker 2: they had to be there at 6 a.m. so they
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  Speaker 2: could make your fucking sandwich. Like, it was just so
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  Speaker 2: wrong on, like, 25 levels. And then to say this
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  Speaker 2: woman was, like, 80. What 80-year-old has to still work
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  Speaker 2: at this place? I mean, everything about it. And what's
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  Speaker 2: wonderful is there's been the daughter of that woman, who
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  Speaker 2: was not 80, by the way, started like a GoFundMe
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  Speaker 2: for her.
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  Speaker 3: She did?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and all this. So it's like, there's good that's
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  Speaker 2: going to come out of it. It's just not going
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  Speaker 2: to be good for Jennifer Aiden. It's just not, and
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  Speaker 2: too bad. Like, who cares?
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  Speaker 3: So is it confirmed that she was kicked off the cruise.
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  Speaker 2: With Dolores and Teresa? The cruise is confirmed.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Because now they sent out a thing saying, Teresa and Dolores,
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  Speaker 2: and surprise us, And surprise, new housewife to join. And
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  Speaker 2: before it was the three of them they talked about
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  Speaker 2: on a podcast. She's definitely not going on the cruise.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm sure the minute this happened, they got probably
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  Speaker 2: at least 50 emails from people being like, this bitch
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  Speaker 2: better not be on the cruise. And they knew about it.
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  Speaker 2: So now we're going to guess who's going to be
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  Speaker 2: the third housewife that goes on this cruise.
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  Speaker 3: Jersey or another city.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it has to be Jersey. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think it will be Jersey because I don't think Teresa's
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  Speaker 2: friends with anybody else. It's not going to be Melissa.
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  Speaker 2: It's not going to be Margaret Joseph's. It's not. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So my, my guess prediction, Dorinda.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, great one. Yes. One hundred percent.
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  Speaker 2: She is down for everything.
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  Speaker 3: She is like, she's doing like spin.
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  Speaker 2: Classes with gays for like $ 12 a ticket. Like she
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  Speaker 2: will be at every city winery loft. Like she is like,
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  Speaker 2: There is no way she's not going to be packing
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  Speaker 2: her bags and being on the cruise.
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  Speaker 3: Good one. It's going to be the cruise manor. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: I can totally see that.
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  Speaker 2: But I'll give you one chance to beat me. So
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  Speaker 2: guess anybody else. And then the script is.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the only other one is New York. I
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  Speaker 3: would say Sonya or Luann. I think it's one of
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  Speaker 3: those two. I think Luann will sing a cabaret on
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  Speaker 3: the cruise. I can see that.
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  Speaker 2: I think she's too good for it. She makes too
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  Speaker 2: much money on her own. I don't think she's going
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  Speaker 2: to be... I don't think... Darling, I'm in the UK.
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  Speaker 2: I can't be going... Honey, I have my own yacht.
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  Speaker 2: We got the yacht. I'm not going to show up
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  Speaker 2: on a yacht with 500 people, 5,000 people. No, it's
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  Speaker 2: not going to be Luann, but I'll give you Sonia
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  Speaker 2: could do it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see Sonia doing it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that they're going to pick anybody else
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  Speaker 2: from like, you know, I'm like, you know who I'd
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  Speaker 2: like to see? Caroline Manzo and Brandi Glanville. Give them
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  Speaker 2: the drink tickets. Give them the drink package. And let's go.
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  Speaker 2: Let's have a remake. Let's have a finger session.
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  Speaker 3: Heather McDonald!
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  Speaker 2: On the cruise.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my Lord, Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: Too soon. No, it's not too soon. I have been.
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  Speaker 3: I love you.
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  Speaker 2: I have been requested by my good friend Brandi Howard
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  Speaker 2: to start a class action lawsuit on behalf of all
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  Speaker 2: the Bravo viewers demanding that we have suffered by not
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  Speaker 2: seeing the ultimate girls trip.
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  Speaker 3: Go to Morocco.
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  Speaker 2: And if you feel like you have been harmed by
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  Speaker 2: being teased this story for two years and not being
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  Speaker 2: able to see Brandy get drunk and sloppy with her
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  Speaker 2: tampon string hanging out of her vagina as she gropes
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  Speaker 2: grandmother Caroline Manzo to the non-reaction of Gretchen, Vicky, Eva,
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  Speaker 2: and Alex McCord, who said everything was fine. then you
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  Speaker 2: can be part of my lawsuit at the Heather McDowell
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  Speaker 2: Law Firm. I'm going to get my sister to be
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  Speaker 2: the real attorney. And we are going to get everybody
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  Speaker 2: at least six to seven cents.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. At least. To buy a Jersey Mike sub.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. To put it towards going to a Jersey Mike sub.
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  Speaker 2: And because, yeah, this is the unknown. This is like,
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  Speaker 2: they're going to open that vault. Remember when they opened
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  Speaker 2: that vault with what? So today there was like a,
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  Speaker 2: like a, Oh my God, it was like this gangster,
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  Speaker 2: it was Geraldo open vault when we were really young kids.
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  Speaker 2: And then there was nothing in it. What, like 25
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  Speaker 2: years from now, they're like, we are going to give
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  Speaker 2: you guys. When Bravo's about to go bankrupt, they'll be like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: we're doing a streamer. Everyone has to pay $ 50 to
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  Speaker 2: watch the ultimate girls trip. And people will. People will.
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  Speaker 3: I watch it.
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  Speaker 2: I would pay $ 50.
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  Speaker 3: I would pay a fee.
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  Speaker 2: I'd pay so much. I would pay so much. That's
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  Speaker 2: what they should do. They should do pay-per-view. Old school pay-per-view.
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  Speaker 3: Watching it in real time like a boxing match.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And you can get all the episodes real time pay-per-view.
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  Speaker 5: Genius.
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  Speaker 2: You're welcome, Andy. You know who I am, girl.
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  Speaker 3: Good idea because I want to watch it. Yeah. I
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  Speaker 3: do want to see it. Do you think we'll ever
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  Speaker 3: see it?
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  Speaker 2: I think we'll see it like in that capacity, like
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  Speaker 2: there'll be something weird, some special thing. But but no,
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  Speaker 2: if I had to bet real money, no, we will never, ever,
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  Speaker 2: ever see it ever.
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• 16:20
  Speaker 5: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: I'm heading to the Emmys and I have police complaints
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: filed against me.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: what would you do if it was given back?
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: He said, I have a work dad. I need a
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: home dad. What happens next? When I came in, he
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: started crying. Everybody in life encounters hardships.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: What defines them is not those hard moments that they
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: go through.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: It's about what happens next.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: I decided to risk it all.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: I realized how valuable every day was. You're worth the work. Listen, Dara,
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to pull punches.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if I ever asked you, I've
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: talked at nauseam of what I think happened, which is,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Caroline spoke too much about the Dina Manzo case involving
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: her ex-husband and Caroline's brother-in-law and that whole mess. And
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: then the thing happened with Brandy, which maybe she didn't like,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: but whatever. And then the next day, kind of freaked
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: out about it and then went home and then realized, A, yeah,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: this bothered me, but a benefit of this would be
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: that no one sees this show if I bring up
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: this lawsuit. That is my opinion what happened. I don't
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: think if she, you know... That's just my opinion. What
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: do you think?
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: No, so I think... Well, listen. From my understanding, it
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: was an immediate... to it that happened like moments thereafter.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Because the other girls have said no.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Well, again, the thing is this, nobody has ever said
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: anything to me, but from what I've read and just,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: and obviously Brandy has talked about it and we've seen things,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: you know, what was said amongst the chatter was that
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: the other girls allegedly did not feel like it was
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: such a big deal. Girls being girls. Or in this case,
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Brandi allegedly being Brandi.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: But on the receiving end, they were saying how Caroline
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: felt very uncomfortable about it. So again, I think it's
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: one of those things where, listen, me and you hung out,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? And you wanted to make
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: out with me. Like, I'm fine with it. But it
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: doesn't mean somebody else is. And that's what it sort
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: of appeared to me. But I did hear it happen moments.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Like the sort of like concerns Okay. All right.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll never know. We'll never know.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Unless there's a pay-per-view.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Yes. Unless there's a pay-per-view.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Have a McDonald's on it.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Yes. Now, I thought of a horrible thought. So I
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: have a legal question for you as a TV producer.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Go ahead.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: You know how when someone passes, then you can write
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: about them in a book because they're dead? And the
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: estate can't come after you, whatever. Whatever. Does that apply
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: at all to a reality thing? Like could you have
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: more freedom with your footage of someone if they are
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: no longer on this earth?
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: That's a good question. I don't know. That's a good
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: question because if you think about it, I'm trying to
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: think of who passed away and they still like, that's
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: a really good question. I don't know.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I feel like the Michael Jackson stuff didn't come out
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: until after he was dead, like the Leaving Neverland and stuff.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: It was like a little more like freedom of like
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: no one can come back for defamation, but they, even they,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: they really can't, you know? I mean, they, I think
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: they've tried, but I, I always understand like you can,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: can't sue a dead man is the thing.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: So, um, or dead man can't sue you or whatever
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: it is. So I just kind of was wondering about that.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Like, that's a good question.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Um, So, okay, so there you go
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: with that. Paige and Craig of Southern Charm and Summer House,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: she was on Summer House, Paige, met Craig, who's been
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: on Southern Charm from the beginning, 15 years. We've really
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: seen him quite honestly bulk up. I saw an old photo,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: an old video of him, and he was like, really
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: looked so young and skinny and like completely different. I
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: love a male glow up.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Me too.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Like sometimes they really do get like, just like a
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: bigger face, like their jaws grow. You know, everyone thought
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Matt Rife and Ida Too maybe got like work done,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, maybe he didn't. Maybe some guys do
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: really kind of like grow up in like their mid
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: to late 20s.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, get more distinguished looking.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like a little more jawline. Anyway, you know, he's
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: so cute. I've met him.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: He is so charming. How is he in person?
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Oh my God, the first time, it was BravoCon 1.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: And do you remember the first BravoCon? Did you go?
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: We had our show in New York that weekend, yeah.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: But what I liked about it is it was the
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: first one, no one knew what to expect, and everyone
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: thought it was awful that you had to go to
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: three different places. I liked it. So they had the
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: show in the one theater, and then you walked down
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: the street, and then there was all the vendors, all
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: the housewives and people selling their stuff, and there was
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: the cool dresses hanging up, like the little museum thing.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: And then there was some other place that you could
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: go to and And so I thought it was kind
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: of fun, like going to those different, but anyway, so
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: I was at one of them, I'm walking by and
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: he was like, Heather, I never met him.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: He's a juicy scooper.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: And he gave me the cute sewing hat that has
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: the light blue patch on it. And you know, he's
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: a tall, dark haired delight. And he was genuinely so cute.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: And then last year I went and talked to him
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: and Paige who were so cute. And I, you know,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: know Hannah, who's Paige's good friend and co-host and all that. Hannah,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Hannah burner. And so I was like, I got to
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: have you on. And I'm joking. I'm like, let's just
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: rip on Hannah. Like, you know, whatever. And he was like,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: so cute. I'm like, you're such a fashionista. She's like, Oh,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: thank you. And so they were so cute, but I,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: you know, people were like, what's going on? Like they've
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: been dating three years. They, Live in two different places.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Are they getting married? But you never see them fight
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: on the show. You always see them have like a great,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: fun rapport. And it was announced over the holiday that
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: they did, in fact, break up. And he just spoke today.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: I just saw this on my phone today.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: I didn't see it.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: And Bravo Breaking News picked it up from his Instagram.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: And he was just lovely about it.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: What did he say?
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: He was heartbroken and shocked.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: Wait, did she dump him?
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: She dumped him. Why? We don't know why, but he
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: was like so lovely about it. He just goes, I'm
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: totally shocked. It was before, you know, it was right
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: before the holidays. And people were starting to put this
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: together because someone had got a cameo for the mom.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: And he was, and it was right before Christmas. And
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: he was, you know, mentioning Paige and this and that.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: So because there was rumors that, oh, they had broken
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: up months ago and they were playing along and they
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: were going to do a fake engagement. And there's been
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: all these stories. And no, I mean, I think in
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: my opinion. Well, so let me finish what he said.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: So he goes, hey, you guys have been sweet. Thank
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: you for the advice and everything. And he's like, no,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: I'm heartbroken. I'm really sad. But, you know, because I
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: lost my best friend and it's really hard to go
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: from talking to your friend every day to just not.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: And he's like, but it takes two to be in
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: a relationship and there's nothing I can do about it. And. Oh, girl.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: And that's that like that's not.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Going to be single long.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: No, no way.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: That's a good way of responding.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And he just he just goes, you know, and I'm.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: The only way I can get through this is you
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: can't change somebody or make them feel a certain way.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: The only way I can do is, you know, control
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: how I, you know, react and accept. And it was great.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: You know, nothing mean. I think with her. Yeah. I
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: just I think this I think people have great relationships
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: that just don't last forever. I think this was a healthy, beautiful,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: fun relationship. She just didn't want to marry him. And
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I think she knew it was headed. Maybe she got
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: word that there was a ring being bought and she wanted,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: this is just me, and she wanted to be as
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: respectful and say it before it happened. And I think
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: that right now in her career and her age and
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: she's got her hands in so many She's this delightful, funny,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: likable person, which is a great career, but then also
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: because she has such an eye for fashion. I just
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: think there's a lot of opportunity for her. She's only 32,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: and she just doesn't want to get married now. I
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: have had friends that have ended engagement at 32, and
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: then they have a lot of fun. 33, 34, 35, 36,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: and then about 37, they're like, fuck. And I actually
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: had a friend who was like, I should have married
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: that guy. I'd be divorced, but I'd be divorced with
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: a four-year-old.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: She said that.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: She goes, at least I'd be divorced with a four-year-old
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: at a house in the Hamptons.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Such is life.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: So that same girl went on to get married and
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: has a wonderful life now to someone else and doesn't
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: have the trauma of divorce. You could have, would have,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: should have. You can't say it.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I think that she just wasn't feeling it.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: We all have friends that, you know, sometimes they get
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: divorced a few years ago and I go, when did
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: you know? And they're like, the night before.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: The night before the wedding.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like Kim Kardashian, when she married Chris Humphries. Oh,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: there was talk like the day, the night before. Of
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: backing out. Of Chris being like, you don't have to
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: do this. Like you, this is not. Nobody was like
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: doing it for the show. You know, and then it's like, no, no,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: because you're the bride. And it's really hard. So I
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: think she was smart enough to know I could still
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: go on another year, but he probably won't without an engagement.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: And I don't want to get married, get divorced. I
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: don't want I don't want the world to see the engagement.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: So I think she has had a really hard time
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: with it, too. But him confirming that it was her
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: people probably don't think that. But I think it's. I
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: think it is. I think they had a beautiful relationship
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: for three years and that's the end of it. And
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: they're both going to find other people. And they're both
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: being really smart about it with the public. And they're
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: both so likable. There's no villain, you know?
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: There's no villain. And listen, he's such a dreamy looking human.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: And the fact that he's so nice. I sometimes do
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: wonder this. At 32, do you really want the nice guy?
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? Like, to your point.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: For Paige, you mean. For Paige.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Like, was he too much of a nice guy? He's
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: the guy you marry at 36. So to your point,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: I actually agree with you 100%. He's so, because look,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: he's dreamy. He's nice. He has a job. He adores you.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: He loves up on you. And listen, we don't know everything,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: but it's a little strange.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Or, you know, there are times in my life where I've,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: you know, in my age and wisdom, you know, there
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: are things I'll say now that I wouldn't say like
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: to other, like off the, you know, I'll be like,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: you know what? Choose the smaller place in the better neighborhood.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Be around the eclectic, smart people that are in your business. Even,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: and if it means your kid doesn't have a yard,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: be in such a nice neighborhood that they go to
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: the good public school and there's a nice, Community or
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: you're behind gates and you can use a community pool. Yeah,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: that's my advice now years ago I would have been
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: like no go to that other community where you could
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: have your big backyard and your barbecue But you're around
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: like people like there's things that I changed my mind
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: about so there's times where I've been like oh My god,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: you know you have this one little unit of time
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: as a woman that I feel like that's the time
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: to like really kind of snag the best guy, and
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I think she's in that, and I think she wants,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: you know, sometimes when you date too long without engagement,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: the passion sort of weighs, and I also think, you know,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: she's in New York, she's, there's a chance that she
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: can get somebody that is more compatible, that's that, looking
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: for a guy in finance, six five, trust five, you know, like,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: she could find someone like that, and she is the
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: only star in the family. And she's the only one
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: that you need to deal with reality shows. And it's
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: money and it's nothing she doesn't need to worry about
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: if his star continues or if the Bravo things continues.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: She could do her own thing with her podcast and
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: her fashion and be with somebody else. And I'm not
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: saying she's replacing him for this ghost-like person that's out
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: there that could be a cheating and an asshole and whatever.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: But I don't know. I could see her ending up
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: with someone that's not in the industry at all, but
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: like a power player like I feel like everybody is
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: like I'd like to Lauren Sanchez this shit.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Baby she's on my vision board by the way she's
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: on everyone's vision board because the thing is this shout
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: out to Jeff he did not get like some young
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: woman fresh out of.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: College they don't want that They want.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: But, but they did back in the day.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: They don't. You know what? I realized Jill Zarin's husband, boyfriend,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Gary told me this.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: What did he say?
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: He said a billionaire wants another billionaire's wife. They want
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: like a, like remember how Yolanda David Foster's like, who's that?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: When he was at Muhammad's house and Muhammad's like, that's
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: my ex-wife. And he's like, that's that girl I want.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: I didn't last, but like, I think sometimes they want that. Well,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: for one thing, that relationship was an infidelity thing. They
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: were all friends. Remember that? Jeff Bezos and his wife
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: were friends with Lauren and her husband. You don't know this?
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: No.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: How do you not know this? Welcome to Juicy Scoop.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Tell me the tea, girl!
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Welcome to Juicy Scoop History 101.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Give me the scoop.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Apparently, Carlos missed the first week of classes. Okay, so.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Okay, so Lauren Sanchez was married to a big agent
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: at William Morris, and the four of them were social friends.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: And it all broke out, and I thought it was
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: so interesting because, like, Amazon Prime was just becoming something,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: and I think there were lots of deals at William
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Morris and whatnot. But it was, no, they fell in
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: love while he was still married to the wife. And
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: it was like, wow, but they got divorced. She has
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: kids with him. Her oldest son is with this like
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: hot black football player that she had before. I think
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: she was married to him.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: What?
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Yes. So she's got like a 30-year-old. Then she has
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: like teenage boys with the white agent. And now she's
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: with the richest nerd in the world. Someone doesn't have
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: a type.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Lauren, I'm obsessed with you even more, babe.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: And she's a pilot of helicopters. Yes.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: See, I knew that. And she's a children's book author.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: But she was like a hostess and all this, like
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: a host of chosen anchors and all that. But no,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: so then that happened and it was quite scandalous. But
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: now like they're all cool people. I think she's cool
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: with his kids. I think his ex-wife is cool. The ex-husband,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: he's got some nice girlfriend. I think there's even been
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: times where they've maybe done some stuff together. Because the
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: agent's like, I'll fucking go on your yacht. I always
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: say to my husband, if you're going to cheat on
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: me or leave me for anyone, please leave me for
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: a billionaire who has a plane. Take the boys to
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: all the golf courses in all of the world. Like,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: elevate the life of my children. If you're going to
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: cheat on me, like, elevate the life of my children.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: And I think some guys should feel that way, too. Like,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: if you're going to lose, like, get rid of your ego.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: If you're going to get, like, I think it's way
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: worse if your girl is, like, you know, fucking the
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: pool boy.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't downgrade.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, at least get somebody that either way. So, yeah.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens with them.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: So, Paige, get with a rich financier on Wall Street.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Because, honey, this is not going to be on the
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: market for too long.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Like a Sophia Richie. You know, she broke up with
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Scott Disick, father of three, like, you know, doing and
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: got with this rich guy from a rich family and
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: just elevated that life.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: And disappeared.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: And more age appropriate for her and all of that.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: So it's like. Yeah. You know, I mean, you imagine
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: how her Lionel Richie was like, hello, what are we
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: supposed to do? Why is our 17 year old daughter
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: with this 38 year old divorced out of three? Like,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: what are we doing? And then, you know, but sometimes
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: you just have to be there. You have to hang
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: around your kid. You can't be like, You're out of
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: my life. You just have to be patient. Yeah. Hope
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: that they break up. Yeah.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Those girls did it right.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah. So if you're Richie doing it right.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: And Lauren, if you would like to appear on the
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, you have my vote.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, at least just show up for something. Just
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: come to something.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: She's friends with all of the girls, including like Chris
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: and Kim.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're never going to get to see.
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: Well, you know what?
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Jeff Bezos seems to have gotten thirsty since he started
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: taking the. HGC, what is that that makes you a
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: little bulk up? You know, he's buffed out. He's had
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: a glow up.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: No, he has had a glow up physically.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: So he might want to show up to something. I mean,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: the thing about them, they're so big, there's nothing to hide.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: So they could go on it. It's the billion, it's the,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: you know, $ 500 million, you know, person living in Bel
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Air that's going to say no to their wife being
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Because they don't want
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: all their business out there. But we know what, bezos
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: pays in taxes and blah blah blah blah blah blah
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: so all right let's let's envision you guys everybody we're
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: putting lauren and jeff bezos on our vision board yeah
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: for real housewives of beverly hills um okay so speaking
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: of which we're talking about this um they're coming back
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: with like how to break like all of us um
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Just in general, how are you feeling about the season
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: of Real Housewives Beverly Hills right now?
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: I love it. It is truly the Dorit show. I
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: have always been a Dorit stan. The first moment she
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: appeared on the show... She let Lisa Rinna have it
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: when she was like, you're too close to me. If
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: I can smell your breath, you're too close. Back up.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: I loved her then. I loved the panty gate with
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: her and Erika Jayne. She made Erika Jayne cry on
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: the boat and Erika Jayne stand too. Then Dorit unfortunately
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: read the comments on social media and became a recluse.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: She was so reserved and boring.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: For like two seasons, two or three seasons.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Like maybe three. Like it was to the point.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: That's interesting, yeah.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: I was like, where's my firecracker? Yeah. She's back. And
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: I am the biggest Kyle Richards stan. She's my favorite
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: housewife of all the franchises. So to see Dorit and
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: her go at it, I love this season. I love Bose.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: I love the cast. I'm here just for Dorit, honestly.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I think that's so true because even with my own
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: journey in this business, and especially in the last few years,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I reacted to social media hate in a very more humble, like,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know why that happened, you know? And then
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: when I had something be revealed and revealed again, and
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: I felt vindicated, I, Heather 2025, is Dorit, too. I'm like, no,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: you know what? I don't fucking care. You don't want
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: to be my friend. You were never my friend.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: It's very, very.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: And it's liberating and also you know as we all
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: get older but i think even women especially as we
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: get closer to especially like your late 40s which is
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: what she's entering even though she looks so young you
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: definitely get to a place of like oh i see
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: it clearer and i mean that's the best part about
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: aging is like very much like and maybe and being
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: less sensitive yes knowing you know and and it standing
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: up for people but also recognizing when they don't stand
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: up for you and calling it out, which is this
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: is the perfect job, breaking up with PK. I think she's, like,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: handled it great. Let me ask you the question. What
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: do you think about Kyle still texting with PK with
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: memes and stuff while her best friend, even though they
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: aren't a great place, is getting a divorce?
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, look, obviously, you know, the rule of thumb is
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: if we're friends, And if I break up with my guy,
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: you also broke up with their friendship. You know what
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: I mean? Like, especially when it comes to girl, there
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: is a girl code there. Mauricio and PK are truly friends.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: There's a bromance there. So I understand they're keeping their friendship.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: But.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: When it comes to Kyle still being friends with PK,
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: especially when her and Dorit aren't in the best place,
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: I do understand why Dorit feels some kind of way.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: It is weird. And I think Kyle probably didn't think
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: too much of it because they're not as close. And
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Kyle probably doesn't know a lot about the divorce. But
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: I think when it comes to the relationship, there's a
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: girl code. If I break up with my guy, you
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: should too. I, um.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: I remember very specifically when I had this presented to me,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: and it was when Lala Kent was with Randall Emmett.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: And this stuff came out that he was, you know,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: photos of him walking across the street with these two girls.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: And I really liked him, and I was like, this
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: could just be some weird fan that caught a photo
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: and like, da-da-da-da. And she was like, no, there's more
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: to it, and da-da-da. And he was like, and I
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: didn't know what was going on, and I'm on the road,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: I was actually staying at Jill Zarin's house, and And
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: he's texting me and telling me things to try to
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: get me to get to her. And I remember I
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: said to him, I go, okay, I said, I'm not
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: going to talk to you anymore. And I just said,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: don't call me anymore. I'm not going to talk to
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: you anymore. And that's it. Like, I'm not going to
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: give advice. I'm literally not going to talk to you anymore.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: And then like a couple weeks or a couple weeks later,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I was talking to Lala. And she's like, I hate
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: to do this to you, but I have to ask
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: you like not to communicate I go oh I stopped
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: that three weeks ago I'm like who's still talking like
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: that's it I go listen you know I go and
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: then there's been gay couples that have broken up I
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: always immediately like maybe I'll have one last text like
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: wow I hope you guys can work out once it's
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: dead I'm with the person I was friends with first
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: period Even sometimes I've liked the boyfriend more.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: There's moments where you're like, I really like them.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: But for that time, and then if something happens, then
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: you can go back to the boyfriend that you're friends with.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: But you're loyal to that. And then as a heterosexual couple,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: when our heterosexual couple friends have broken up, my husband
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: and I, I don't even have to ask him. We
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: take the wife's side. in all the cases, but most
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: of the cases, it was nothing a horrific breakup, not
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: like someone did anything awful. Now if the wife is
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: screwing someone and is a drug addict and being a
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: bad mom, well then of course I'm gonna take, yeah.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: But if it's just like a breakup, and I was
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: closer to the girl, that's it. We're taking the girl's side.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: My husband isn't gonna be giving that guy any advice
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: or whatever, like that's that. Like we're done, it's over with,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: and so, I thought that was pretty dumb of her
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: not to a certain point just be like, I love this,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: but until you guys work out your shit, we probably
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be talking. And that's that.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Because this is the thing, too. I don't think Kyle
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: would appreciate Dorit, Tex, and Mauricio, especially when people have
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: assumed that those two were having an affair.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: And although I don't believe it for a second— I
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: really don't now.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: I really think, you know, you as a reality show
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: producer and, you know, once you like open your eyes
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: to seeing the incredible, clever, funny editing that some of
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: these shows do, that is just really sometimes just the
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: best part of it, you know? But you also see
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: how they're like, you know, how they catch some.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's the nuance.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: They zoom in. They zoom in on something in the
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: corner and.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: The look, the touch.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: All that.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: And there was a moment in Aspen with Dorit sitting
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: next to Mauricio. And I don't know if they were
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: splitting a pasta, but there was a lot of jokes about,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: did you put a big sausage in my pasta or something? Yeah.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: And it was, you know, and also the thing I
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: want to say is when I started, you know, over
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: the holiday, I was like, I would go back and
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: watch old episodes of New York and Beverly Hills or
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: nothing better. And he was like not called Moe until
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: like five years ago.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: What is up with that? Well, the other thing too was, okay,
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: so remember when they were on the verge of divorcing
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: when she was befriending Morgan?
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Wait. Oh, Morgan Wade. I'm going to make you love me.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know who this pretty lady was when
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: she slipped into my DMs. I'd never even heard of
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Beverly Hills. I don't own a TV. I just strum
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: my guitar. Go get tattoos.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: It's the accuracy of the accent. Yeah. So remember when
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: he kept calling her love me and I'm like.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was felt new and put upon too.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a little, it was much. And I
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: was like, I don't remember that a lot in the
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: earlier seasons.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Right, and the only people I remember that suddenly seemed
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: way more in love and a different couple is Heather
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Dubrow and Terry. Remember when all of a sudden it was,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: she's suddenly just choosing to sit on his lap, like
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: with the group when there's like a seat right next
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: to him?
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: After 28 years of marriage, you're like, let me just
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: snuggle it up. And I'm not saying they have an issue, but, like,
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: I get it. Like, if I was on a reality
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: show and I was reading stuff that there was rumors
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: and stuff, I would be like, Peter, you are going
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: to be, like, holding the door open for me and, like,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: grabbing my ass.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm giving you a lap dance.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: And acting like we're way more fucking horny than we
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: are because these mean bitches in the Midwest seem to
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: think we have an issue. Like, like. Even though we're fine,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: no one's going anywhere.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: But, like, you're like, oh, you know.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Yes. So that's what that presented to me a lot.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: There was a Friends episode where they were each with
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: their significant others, and they were like, we're the hotter couple. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: they were like, that's what I feel sometimes with these houses.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, we're the one. Like, we were like, oh,
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: let's talk about sex. You know, like, oh, I like it. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. No, I could not agree more. So listen, I
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: think when it comes to the Reed, Kyle, PK, Mauricio thing,
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: there was a real friendship, but I also think the
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: truest friendship obviously was between the guys.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which I loved, you know, and it's funny too
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: because it's like that is so... And the thing is,
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: is no matter what, women feel, have different relationships in
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: their friendships with other women that... it cannot be ever
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: put on the same description as guys, straight guys, gay guys,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: gay women. It's straight women, relationships, friendships, whether you're 12
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: or 52. Yeah. It hits us different and we, we
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: treat it differently. It feels different. We, we are more emotionally. We,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: you know, guys, the thing is like guys, if you've,
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Ever heard how horrible guys talk to each other on
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: a golf course? The cruel, disgusting, awful things they say
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: to each other. They're friends one second later. Doesn't fucking matter.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: That wouldn't make a really great reality show. But if
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: a woman says, you know, you with your sheen dress.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: Girl.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: We're done.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: Done.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: We're done.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: It's a grudge. We are done.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: That was mean.
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: Guys.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: It's like, hey, we're just busting balls. They really are
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: just busting balls.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: And they really have a friendship and they want to
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: stay friends and they don't want to make a big
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: deal out of things. And that is the beauty, honestly,
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: of men in general. You know, just men in general.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: And that's what it's great that they really are friends
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: and they can stay friends. And if the wives are fighting.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: And that's what also kind of makes when the shows
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: don't have any men in it. a little less interesting
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: for the viewer as well.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: I like seeing the men be friends. That's what makes
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: Georgie so special.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Even though they have men. When all of them are single,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: and then we have to do weird dating things, and
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: some weird guy that was on Love Connection 30 years
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: ago is still in the casting director's Rolodex, and he's like, hello, Sutton.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: And you're like, oh, God. I'd much rather see BK
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: and Mauricio fucking laugh their asses off.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: And throw back some shots. I've got a question for you.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: I was told that, allegedly, Kyle never really saw Dorit
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: as a real friend. That their friendship was developed because
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: of Lisa Vanderpump being removed, well, when she left the show. Puppygate. Puppygate,
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: and the fact that they both had each other's backs
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: at the time. So it was sort of like friendship
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: by default, because let's not forget... Lisa Vanderpump brought on
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: Dorit and PK because PK and Lisa Vanderpump were friends.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: And then when the whole public aid thing happened and
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: Dorit and Lisa Vanderpump had that falling out, it was
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: the default of Kyle and Dorit becoming friends. But Kyle
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: wasn't really... They said that Kyle really never saw Dorit
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: as a true friend. And that's the reason why... When
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: you saw the reasons... that Kyle felt like Dorit wasn't
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: her friend, like the jokes about... It all felt very small.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: That's what I think. Yeah, she had fun with Dorit
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: when she did. And I think that's the other thing
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: with friendships. I think people are, especially the audience, which
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: is my audience, your audience, and of course the Bravo
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: audience of women, is they're so obsessed... with a friendship
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: and women friendship and who screwed over and why did
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: they stop being friends? But if you want to divorce
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: your husband of 25 years that was the father of
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: your kids, they're like, good for you, girl. Kick him
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: to the curb. But they'll have such an opinion over
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: you ending a 10-year friendship with another female. Who did
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: who wrong and why? And I really think like, yeah,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: I think that Kyle liked Dorit, enjoyed Dorit, but for
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: whatever reason, yeah, she saw it as a different level.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: I think that I came up with this just the
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: other day. I think in certain friendships, I saw it
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: as a real friendship, but I was really just a
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: booty call without sex. And I was a booty call
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: that took the call, did the thing that you needed
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: when you needed it. And I had fun and I
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: thought it was a bigger thing. I thought when I
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: needed you, you'd have my back. I was a booty
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: call and I enjoyed it. I liked being fucked. We
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: had a good time.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: It was a good time.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: I didn't hear from you in a while and that
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: was fine. And then you called me up and I
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: was like, let's go. But then when I thought it
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: was a bigger deal, and I was like, no, I
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: should have known you were a booty call friend. I
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: should have known it was that, but I didn't. And
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: I think it's very hard for people as women to
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: kind of go, wait, da-da-da-da. And everyone can have an argument.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Everyone can have a different perspective. And then they're colleagues, too.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: It's a show. It's business. And I've also had people
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: say that I've been friends with in business, you know,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: then say look, I don't see her that much. We're
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: not that good of friends. And I was like, oh,
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: we only went on vacation once. And I was like, oh,
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: I thought we were better friends. And that's okay, too.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: But it hurts. It doesn't mean that Dorit's not hurt
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: by it. But it's not like Kyle did something cruel.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: She just... feels a different way about Dorit.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: It was that friendship of convenience.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: You know, like when people would say, you know, like
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: old school moms and grandmas would be like, find a
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: man who loves you a little bit more than you
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: love him. Yes. You know, and I think sometimes that relates,
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: and I think that applies to friendship sometimes, and it's,
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: but it doesn't really work out. It's better if it's
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: in the marriage and you have the upper hand, but
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: as a friendship, it needs to be more equal, and
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Sometimes they can go on for a really long time
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: and sometimes, like, Dorit was just blinded and that's why
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: she's like, the blinders are off now, Kyle. I see
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: you for what you are. You know, and like, Dorit,
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: is that you? Yeah. And I get it. Like, I totally,
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: I think I totally relate. I did see this one
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: guy do something and someone then shared it and again,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: forgive me because, you know, we watch all these things
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: and I want to give people credit. But he kind
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: of was like, dissing Garcelle a little bit. He feels
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: like Garcelle is like, Do you know that Kyle still
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: texts his PK?
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: It's like, okay, she just came off the set of Lifetime,
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: and it was a little bit like, okay.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes. It was definitely igniting the flame, is all
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: of this. So a lot of people are saying that.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: And I don't understand why she hates Dorit so much.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: I don't really get it. It feels a little.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: are turning against Garcelle. And I've never seen anything like
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: it because she was so beloved by the fans for
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: her first couple of seasons. But this season, everybody... When
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: I say, like, 99.9% of the audience is Team Dorit.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: And what they're noticing is what you said as well,
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: is they feel like Garcelle is coming for Dorit unprovoked.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: And they don't understand why that she's doing that.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: What do you think it is? Is it.
• 51:33
  Speaker 6: I.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: I just think that she just doesn't like her. And
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: I've had people like that with me. And you know what?
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: You're not going to turn them. And some of it
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: is Dorit's kind of like lightness. And I do think
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: she's a pretty positive person. Like, I don't know. There's
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: something about certain personalities where someone's like, oh, that little twat.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: And they're just not going to get past. They're just
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: not going to see the good. And Dorit's never going
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: to win her over. She's never going to enjoy a
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: conversation with her. There's nothing she can do. I don't
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: think it has to do with any kind of misunderstood,
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: possibly racist comment. I think Garcelle knows she is not
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: like that. Is she privileged? Is she a little in
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: her bubble? Sure. So I don't think it's... I think
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: that was... ignited like to because she had to have
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: something but the truth is she just doesn't dig her
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: and she's pretty happy that Kyle's not digging her either.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah and what I will say this all of them
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: are surprised that Dorit is the fan favorite this season
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: I think they all probably bet on the fact that
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: Let's get on Dorit because she's so disliked by the audience.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: Because think about it. They're all coming for her except
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: Bose and Erika Jayne. And I think Erika Jayne is
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: sort of like in the middle, unfortunately, because she's sort
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: of like, I like Kyle and I like Dorit. I
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: respect Kyle because she's the queen bee of the show.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: But the fact that you got Sutton, Garcelle, and Kyle,
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: they're all coming for Dorit. Even fucking Camille Grammar. And
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: Heather MacDonald, Dorit is winning every battle and doing it
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: so smoothly. I'm obsessed with her.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: I know, when she was like to Camille, she's like, please.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: I called you a fucking cunt, actually.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: It was like that moment when Stassi Schrader goes, I
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: don't know why you're here, but I'll have a Pinot Grigio.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: There's just some really good moments like, bitch, we know
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: what you're doing. And I like Camille too, but it
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: felt like, again, like, cause she's like, I've been invited
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: to four parties, one each year, and I still have
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: not gotten ass back. So I got to make some
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: shit happen with my assistant friend here. Okay. I didn't
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: get this denim outfit for nothing. Like she was just like,
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: I got to make some shit happen.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Am I right? I didn't get the e-spread on like
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: Denise Richards. So like to your point, I need the moment.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: And Dorit knew.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: And Dorit called it out and she's like, ah, shut up.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: You know, like I don't need this shit.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: Anyway, it's all good.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, you talked a little bit about Real Housewives of
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: New York, the reboot, the store. And I agree. And
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: I literally do put it on.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: With background noise or white noise?
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: When I have to tell myself, stop watching TikTok, stop
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: watching TikTok. God and the government, I guess, is going
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: to make that happen for me on January 19th. But
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: I literally... It's almost like that's a drug and I
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: have to turn it off to go watch TV. So
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: then if I'm like, now I really need to fall
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: asleep because it's 1045. I will literally go put on
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: New York.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: And I fall asleep every time.
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: So I really, I don't even want to bother. We
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: don't have much time left. I don't even want to
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: bother covering it because I don't really feel anyone's watching
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: or nobody cares.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: I haven't seen it since the first episode.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: But this was really interesting. So this girl was one
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: of the original girls in the reboot. And she is
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: Jewish and she is very vocal about Israel and her faith.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: And I guess she also match makes within the Jewish community.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: And I had heard this because she was on it.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: And remember how the first season was like, this seems
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: so weird. It's like disconjured. It's because they had to
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: cut every scene out with her in it. And what
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: happened was, according to her, she's finally like talking about it.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: But I had heard the story is, um, Brynn was like,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: set me up, you know? And I have a friend
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: who was Christian and she would only go on J-Date
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: because she was like, I think the guys are more successful.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: But this, she was like, well, it's really about like
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: finding Jewish people for Jewish people or something. And in
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: saying it, I think Brynn, always trying to be funny,
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: but like not, you know, she's like not that funny, Brynn,
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: you know? She was like, and she's like, why? And
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: she goes, well, you know, the religion of the child
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: in the Jewish religion is, is based on the mother.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: So if the mother is Jewish and she marries a
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: Christian guy, the kid in the eyes of the world
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: is still Jewish. So she's like, I can't really, in
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: her business or whatever, if she's got Jewish guys, she
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: wants to set them up with Jewish women. To get married,
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: because it's like to get married. And Brynn threw the
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Nazi word around. She's like, well then basically you're a Nazi.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: That's what happened?
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: And so then she was like, whoa. And according to
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: this interview that she did, and I did just see
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: a clip, she and her husband started to talk to them.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: And she's like, look, the whole reason I wanted to
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: come on the show as a very committed religious Jewish
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: person was to show this side and this positive side.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: And I feel like if this is on the show
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: at all, and this is before October 7th attacks, that
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: this could be, start some anti-Semitism, like, I don't want
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: any of this. And then in their investigation, whatever, they
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: say some other things went on, but that's why it
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: was mutually, we will leave, we don't want to be
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: a part of it, and they cut it all out.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: I didn't know that.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew that story before, but people were being
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: very quiet about it. Like, there were not big blogs
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: or anything. I knew about it from somebody on the inside.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: Reliable source. And, you know, and it's such a touchy
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: time and everything. But I follow her and she's, you know,
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: really wonderful and brilliant about her faith and everything. And so.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: So did she leave?
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. She left.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: Okay, so she left on her own accord.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: I believe she left on her own accord on top
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: of everything else. But also... You know, they no one
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: wants they don't want to draw attention to this. I
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: don't think she does. Brin, nobody did. But at this point,
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: she's now telling her story. And this is from her.
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's heavy.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: It was heavy. And I can get why it didn't
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: work with the show. It's too fucking heavy. And I
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: could get I don't know. We again, we'll never see
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: the footage. I don't know if Brin was being silly, funny.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: You know, comedians throw those words around Hitler all the time.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: You know, so I don't know if she thought it
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: was going to land and it didn't work. She was
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: actually being like pissed about it. Yeah.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: She was just really what the tone was. Yeah.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: She being pissed because she was being ignorant or like,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah. But yeah, that was so.
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: No, the thing with the New York reboot, I just
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: felt like. there's a lot of things off with it, right? Listen,
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: there are beautiful women, there are accomplished women, there are
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: stylish women. On paper, it makes sense. But when you
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: mix this bag of women together, they're not cohesive at all.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: And I think Brynn, because I watched the first season
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: and I actually enjoyed it.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: I liked the first season better, too.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was like, oh, it's new, it's fresh,
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: it's interesting. Aaron was my favorite. I love Psy. I
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: really love all the girls. and i thought brim was
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: funny i think they all saw the first season and
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: said whoa and instead.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: Whoa what well what the thing.
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: Is this these are accomplished women in business and i
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: think sometimes again my example i think when Psy saw
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: that it was a big deal about her being hangry
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: and being.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, dumb stuff.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: You know, like stupid stuff like that. Oh, I see.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: They feel like, oh, y'all made it that big of
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: a deal and you become a little bit more cautious.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: I think when Aaron and Psy had that moment where
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: Psy took off her... Not Psy. Uba, took off Erin's
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: glasses and it became a thing about Raze and the
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: angry black. I think all of that made them way
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: more cautious. And let's not talk about Jenna Lyon's lover
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: not being on the show, but her lover's mom. It's
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: all just... It's all just.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: Wait, that's not even her own mom?
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: No. That's what I'm saying to you. It's sort of like.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, I have a controversial question for you as a
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: real housewife producer, and you have all your other shows
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: that you've created with families.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: I think I said this on my Patreon. I'm going
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: to say it. As someone who's watching, I am actually
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: not into really watching a lot of kid seeds.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: And this is no disrespect for elderly parent scenes.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: I'm just not. Is that controversial?
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't want to be disrespectful. It's
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: one thing if you really have a fucking funny mother.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: And yes, Jill's my friend, but I really feel like
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: scenes with Gloria. Yeah. she was such a character and
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: I've been in her presence and I've literally peed in
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: my pants. You think it's, you think it's not a
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: real person, but like with some of the others, even when,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: even rest her soul, Lisa Renna's Lois, who was beautiful
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: and fun. It was like, Oh, and I was kind
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: of like.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, like, it's fine.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: She's pleasant. She's a lovely woman. She's lived an extraordinary life.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: But like to me as an audience member, and I
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: feel like there's a lot of parent stuff happening in,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: in New York, too, that I am just, doesn't hold
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: my interest as someone sitting on my couch.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: Well, and I also think, too, we gotta understand its predecessor,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: you didn't see Ramona's parents. You know what I mean? Like,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: you didn't see these girls. And the beauty of Old
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: New York was the fact that it was really about
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: the women. Yeah. And their organic friendships.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: And they all mesh well. So that when you had
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: Dorinda talk about Sonya's Holland Tunnel vagina... You know. You're
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: the hostess with the mostest. You can't make that shit
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: up because it was strictly about that. And that's what
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: we are. That's what we're missing in this reboot.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: It's.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know how you fix it. How do you
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: fix it, producer? Carlos King. How do you fix it?
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: You got to bring back the old girls. There's there's.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: In my opinion, in my opinion, and you tell me
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: if you disagree.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: I don't disagree.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: I just don't think this cast is fixable.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: I don't either. And you know what? It's not their fault.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with them individually. They're beautiful. They live
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: good lives. They're smart. They even have like a funny
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: moment here or there. As a group, it's just not clicking.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: It's not fun. I mean, with sitcoms, You know, there's
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: only so many lightnings in a bottle, and they have
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: to have it all. Like, everyone loves Raymond or Frasier.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: It has to be the best writers, the best producers.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: They're all friends. They all hang out together. Like, when
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: I guest starred on Frasier a long time ago, it
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: was at this Warner Brothers. Was it Warner Brothers? No. Oh,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: my God, I can't remember. Paramount. It was Paramount, okay?
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: And I did an episode there, and it was, like,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: a few seasons in. And it's a small room this size,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: and they're all sitting there. Okay, they're all hanging out
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: talking about their weekends. And I'm like, don't they have
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: like trailers or dressing rooms? This is rehearsal. They're hanging out.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: They're talking about going here and this and this boyfriend
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: and da-da-da-da. Oh, I wanted to get that number from you.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: And they're all just chatting. And they're letting me, the
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: guest star of the week, just sit there.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: And asking me questions.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: And you wonder why, you know, like Frasier went on
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: for nine years. The same thing with Friends.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: They were really friends.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: And then they also have the great writers and everything
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: like that. And I think the same is with reality shows. Like,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: you know, you can't, it just, sometimes it totally clicks
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: and has longevity and other times it's just, and it's
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: like no individual person's fault. It's not the producer's, it's
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: not the- No.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: And the thing is that it's a chemistry test.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: And listen, I'm talking to you because you get this.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: Even when you get cast to do a scripted show,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: there's a table read.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: And I've heard stories about actors getting fired after the
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: table read because it's like, The chemistry isn't there after
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: you guys read the script as a cohesive unit. And
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: I think the mistake with the New York two is
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: the fact that none of them were organic friends at all,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: at all.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: And when you come after a monstrous, successful, well, like
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: Kim's chemistry cast, like New York, it's, it's, It was
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: tough to follow that up with this group of women.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: And I agree with you. As individual women, nothing's wrong
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: with them. They're accomplished. And I would even say on paper,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: I understand why they were cast. I think these women
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: don't have the history to make a funny joke with
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: each other and they know it's not problematic. Do you
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: know what I mean?
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And speaking of that, a great real story is
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: Lisa Kudrow. got cast as Roz in Frasier and did
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: get fired after the table read. And it was so
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: devastating because they knew this show was going to go.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: It's Kelsey Grammer from Cheers. It had the Dream Team
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: writing everything. And she was devastated. And she was dating
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: Conan O'Brien. And then he got his TV show. And
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: so now she has no boyfriend, no job. And then
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: they're like, well, there's this other show later on the
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: next year, I think. Friends. And she was my teacher
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: at Groundlings. And she's like, yeah, I'm going to retire
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: my spot from the Groundlings. And she goes, because I
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: got this pilot. And I had known how hard this
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: town is. And I'm like, oh, what's the pilot? And
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: she goes, it's like about six friends living in New York.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, good luck with that.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: You say you want to quit this teaching gig?
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: It does pay $ 100 for every flight. Yeah, you might
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: want to.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: No benefits? You sure about that, girl?
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: And I said that, and she goes, well, I feel
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: pretty good. It's following Seinfeld. And I was like, hmm.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: I hope so, Lisa, because otherwise, I really like the
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: way you teach me improv.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: Not the improv. But it goes to show you that.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: Listen, I don't even think extracting for and keeping, I
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: just think, I think at the end of the day,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: this is what I would do. I would just say, look,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: we tried and it's fine. We're bringing back the old girls.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: And then does Andy just like turn to the camera
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: and watch what happens? I would be like, I made
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: a mistake. I made a mistake. Like, someone just writes, like,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: we made a mistake. I don't know. You know, I
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: wonder if you could get them all back. I mean,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: the Dream Team. You can. Okay.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: Girl.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: Girl. Because, I mean, I do want Bethany back.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: Well, I think she's the only one.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: And I want Jill back. And I want, so they're cool.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: Of course, we want Luann, Sonya, and Dorinda.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: They all will come back except Bethany. And I think
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: that's okay. And my thing is this. Out of my
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: two new girls that know them.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: So you need Luann. Luann, Sonya, Dorinda. I want Jill.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: And who else do we have? Anybody else? The Kelly Bessamone.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: Ramona.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Kelly Bessamone is just as weird as she was at
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: Scary Island. Whenever I see her, she's always just like...
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: I have to work on it. She's always like... I
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: don't know. She's still gorgeous. She is fun to watch.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know who else you could get, but she
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: could be fun.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: Alex McCore, I think, come from Australia.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, her kids are grown. She's probably done being a therapist.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: She's probably like, bring me back to my weird Brooklyn apartment. Yeah.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: Let's do it. I'd love it. She was so... The
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: old ones are just magical. Okay, so now I wanna just,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: oh God, we have so much to talk about, but okay.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: But I wanna just jump to, real quick, because you
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: had an interesting interview recently with OC, Alexis Bellino. I
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: saw that she went on your show and tell me
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: your thoughts.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: Okay, so Alexis Bellino has a new podcast.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, she has her own podcast.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: Called Going Rogue.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: And I was her first guest.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, so you were her guest. I thought she was
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: on yours.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: No, I was her guest.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: Are you still going to read me?
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: Has it aired already?
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: So it aired a few weeks ago. It's funny. I
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: put it out today on my podcast.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: So that people can really, you know.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're doing the Christian thing.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: It's your Christian service for the week.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much. And I tied.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: Tagging is mine. Yes, there you go.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: There you go. So on Reality with the King, listen
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: to me, Alexis Molina, please. So she's. revealed to me
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: that she received the phone call and she was not
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: asked back to OC and she was not happy about it.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: Not really surprised, but also not happy about it because
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: obviously she wanted an opportunity to redeem herself.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: I spent a long time talking to her.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: At Kathy Hilton's event?
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: No, and on the phone.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, oh, do tell.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: I did my Christian service as a Real Housewife consultant.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: I talked to Alexis Bellino, and I was trying to
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: give her advice of what to say to producers because
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: obviously this was before they had made the decision.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: And, you know, I talked about it on the show,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: so I don't want to repeat myself of, like, what. But,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: you know, there was times where she was just so hurt,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: and I was like, well, you have to go back
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: on the show because now you have nothing to lose. Yes,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: you have all these people who hate you. They're not
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: gonna hate you more next season. And some may see
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: another side of you. And you know, it just, I
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: also feel the audience, it's like, who do you think
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: a 50 plus audience that half of them are divorced
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: are gonna side with in this scenario? Tragic Shannon Bedore, who's,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: you know, divorced and cheating husband and fluctuating weight and
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: all this other, like they love that and showing her,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: her shirt and her body. And like, she's never had
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: kept a secret in her life. And it's like, that is,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: you know, we relate. And I think Tamara and her
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: and everybody just thought, well, of course they're going to
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: turn on her. You know, she got in this DUI
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: accident and things would be very different if someone was
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: actually hurt. People don't care that she you know, parked
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: the car and pretended to walk down the street with
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: Archie in a bloody face and get out of it.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: They don't care. They don't care because... And isn't it
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: interesting that that's the only mugshot we don't have of
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: all the housewives?
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: Right. Good point. I didn't think about that.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: Well, when you're a good attorney... Sheriff of OC, I
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe they went to the boat parade together.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't care. We don't need to
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: see it. Good attorney is a good attorney. But, you know,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: that was all. And I think they kind of thought, OK.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: And then from what they took and everything, it just
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: really made. And I don't think the producers even in
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: editing it set out for the reaction to be this.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: I think they thought they would be a little more mixed.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: Not pro Alexis, but again, Shannon. But no, it's just
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: like the Dorit thing. It was just like, no. We
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: feel this way probably because I think a lot of
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: producers are not women in this field or executives and
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: they can't predict how a 40, 50-year-old woman is going
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: to see as the relatable hero or the underdog. And
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: they sometimes shoot the wrong thing. Or they guess the
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: wrong thing. So I thought I thought it was a
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: long shot that she'd be asked back, but I was like,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: I hope you, you know, if you come back, like,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: and you get married and, you know, I'm like, Tamara
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: can be, you know, a 58-year-old bridesmaid and, like, let's
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: make it happen. You know, Heather Dubrow can sing at
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: the wedding again. You know, Heather Dubrow sang at Tamara's wedding.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: She did?
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: I went to Tamara's wedding.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: What did she sing?
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: Sing some song. I don't know if they shared that
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: much of it in the show. But there was that
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: one time Tamara said that she was, you know, figuring
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: out who was going to ask them to get married.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: And she said, now, this is what Tamara told me.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: So she could have been joking or whatever. But what,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: you know, what my elephant memory told me. So she goes,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: and so then I thought, well, maybe, you know, you
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: can marry anybody. It takes 10 minutes to get your license.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: So she goes, so then I was like, oh, I
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: said to Heather, you're going to sing. Why don't I
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: have Terry marry us? And according to my memory, Heather
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: Dubrow said, absolutely not. This is my day.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: I'm singing.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: And Tamara's like, well, I thought it was my day.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: But you're right. It's my third wedding. Who am I
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: to steal the show?
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: That's believable.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: But anyway, I could have seen that happening. And my
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: prediction is Alexis will never... hear from tamra again until
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: she comes back on the show and uh that's that
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: and these these women you know i don't know they
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: make great tv i don't believe any of them are
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: real friends I don't think Shannon's going to be now that,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: you know, the Dos Amigos. We are going to shake
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: our hips and wear Spanx. We're the Dos Amigos. I
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: don't think Shannon's going to have time to hang out
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: with the other Dos Amigos.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: No, listen. It's an alliance.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: Alliance is perfectly it. It's a housewife survivor.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: That's all it is. And I tell people that all
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: the time. The thing with Alexis Bellino, she brought great
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: entertainment to this past season. Her not coming back was
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: not a shock to me. And I said that to her.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: And she asked me, what did I do wrong, Carlos?
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: And I said... You spent the entire time defending John
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: instead of us getting to know you. And even when
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: the girls would break up with John, what you should
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: have said was, guys, he's not here to defend himself.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about something else. I said you were incessant
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: in your defense, and I get it. But in hindsight,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: you should have just nipped in the bud. And she said, wow.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: Well, she also brought up a good point. She's like,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: you know, some people, when they are a friend, the
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: one time Luann was demoted to a friend, She, you know,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: made Alec a bandit. She had the most interesting storyline.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: They paid her more than she made because she got
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: paid by the scene. And then she was back holding
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: an apple. But for others, if they're presented, like when
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: the rumor is that Heather was presented as a friend
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: one season to be demoted. That's the rumor, alleged. And
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: she was like, no, fuck off. Which at the time
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: I thought was a mistake, but now I know because she's,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: you know, on top of the world again and who cares.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: But I think with Alexis, she said everything. I would
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: never be a friend again because I don't have the
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: ability to go to everything. They can easily cut her
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: out of the London trip and things like that. And
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: then it's like, wow. And then also being cut out
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: of the London trip. Well, now those are all the
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: days I'm not getting paid. And I don't know what's
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: going on. And they're talking about me. And like, yeah.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: You don't get to see your personal life at home
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: with the kids. And I do think that was a
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: deficit to her. We never really saw... The love between
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: her and John.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: Because they were always in defense mode. We didn't see
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: her being a mom. We didn't see her and Heather
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: bond over their kids.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: We didn't see her and John actually, like, be funny
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: or anything.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: Like, yeah.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: It was always in defense mode. So I did tell her, too, like,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: being a friend that was a deficit.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: Listen, I feel bad for her because social media gave
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: her a hard time. I know.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: And I'm just like, you know, though. They're watching. That's
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: what I said. I go, but they're watching. Nobody shows.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: Nobody's watching. But it is really hard. And it's very
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: hard to, it is like a drug for you to
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: not look at it. It's so hard not to go.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: Even turning off the comments, it's like you're still aware
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: a little bit.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: And then you're alone in your room and you're like,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go to that site. and you like
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: really shouldn't but it's like it's literally like I've you
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: know someone related it to cutting and I've never been
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: a cutter but I kind of see it like it's
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: like something where you're like you're reading these horrible things
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: but you cannot stop reading it and it's just and
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: it gets into you and it's like it's a whole
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: thing but and I felt bad for her for that
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: but you know it was just so juicy with you
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: know and then like her ex-husband like it is It's amazing.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: I love OC. I'll never stop watching OC till the
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: day I die.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: Best season so far.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: And my favorite part of OC, and no other show
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: has it, is the sad music at the final scene
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: of the final episode of every season. That music... Who
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: came up with it? How much does that person get?
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: Of all things, that's it.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: That's my favorite. Every time, I just like, my whole body, like,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: I want that played at my funeral. I want that
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: OC where they do the thing and it's like, you know,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: Lynn Curtin is still selling her cuffs. And like, whatever
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: it is, I just am like, I love it so much.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: Lynn Curtin, a throwback. Yes. I love Lynn.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: Um, Okay, we have one. Let me see. One more
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: thing to talk about. Let's just talk. How are you
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: feeling about Salt Lake?
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, honey bunny pudding pie. Amazing. Fantastic.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: Fun.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: Juicy. You know what I said recently in my podcast?
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: It has taken the place of old New York, old Roney,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: where it was a comedy show.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: Salt Lake City is an underrated comedy. They're funny.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: They're funny. And the editors are funny.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: And it doesn't feel like they planned it, like they
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: wrote it out before.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: Because, you know, we know housewives that have, like, you know,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: hired a comedy writer on the side. You know it.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: I know it. And it's just like, no, like, there
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: really are in, like, those moments, like when Angie Kay
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: is like, you have high body count hair. Like, she
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: just said it like that. And it's just like, I don't,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: I think it just really came and popped into her
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: head at the time. And it's just like, you know,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: it was just amazing. And even, I don't want to
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: see that weirdo go anymore. The Britney. I don't want
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: to see her go. I love her.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: What about me?
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: What about?
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: Love her.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: And now she did a hard launch with the Osmond nephew.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: Keep that shit around.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: I need her back next season, people.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: And of course, nobody can get rid of Bronwyn.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: What is your prediction? What's going to happen with that
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: lovely marriage?
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: Well, not to spoil anything, but I did hear that
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: he shows up to the reunion.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's great. In a blazer and a pair of shorts.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: But we ran into her at Kathy Hilton's event.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, yeah.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: And I got a chance to talk to her. She's lovely.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: Lovely. But no, I think she'll come back. Yeah, she's...
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: Love her.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: She's great, and she's kind of interesting. She's always like, Yeah.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: She's like, well, I don't really understand Lisa because we
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: were really good friends and it was really upsetting. Why
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: do I get in trouble? Why am I not allowed?
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: And then Todd is like, Bronwyn, just stop talking. I
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: have to talk like this. If they're talking to me
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: like this, I have to give it back to them.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: You said I could.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: Do this show while you collected coffee cups. Now you're
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: telling me I can't yell across the pool while the
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: cameramen are sweating?
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: On a trip I paid for?
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: She.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: She's an amazing addition. And I was, listen, I will
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: admit when I'm wrong. I really thought that the show
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: could not survive without Monica Garcia. And I was wrong.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. I knew they would be fine.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: I didn't think so.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: I don't think she was like that big of a
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: hit until the end.
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  Speaker 3: Well, no, it was more so, I'm going to tell
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: you what Monica brought to me at the time. It
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: was a personal story with her mom, right? And it was,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: I love the fact that she made all the girls
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  Speaker 3: show up in a way that I never saw them
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: show up.
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  Speaker 2: I felt that she, I felt right from the start,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: and go back and, as if someone would do this,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: but someone might be worried enough to do it, but
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: I remember saying, I think her and her mom are acting.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: I think she's acting like a reality star. It felt very,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: like when she'd like freak out and yell about things,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: like at whatever the Easter, I kind of was like,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: so when it all went down, yes, I was shocked
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: with everybody else because I think it's really juicy when
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: someone is like a troll and has anonymous accounts and stuff,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: especially now that we know more. But I was like, goodbye.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: Like I did think she was kind of full. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't think she was an authentic person from the moment
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: I started watching her, which is hard to find someone
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: really being authentic in 2025 when they've been watching reality
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: show for 20 years, half their life. They've been watching
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: from the real world days to like, Oh, I'll be
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: the alcoholic bisexual. Like, you know, how do I get
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: on this show? And like, so then you finally get
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: on the show and you know, and then the people
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: that say, Oh, I never watched or whatever. Now I
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: feel like if, you really did get, if my friend
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: was getting cast, like, hey, I'm doing this, I have
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: a friend in Chicago, and she's like, I know you're
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: into this housewife shit, but they want me to do this.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: I would be like, don't watch. Now, if someone was
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: going to be cast, I'd be like, get rid of
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: your peacock. Don't even start. I will consult you. I
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: will be the consultant. But don't see it in your,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: don't you watch it because then you're going to start
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: like throwing a leg across the table and doing stuff
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: that doesn't seem authentic.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: That's true, Heather.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: You know, and it's like, it's better that you, and
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: I do, when I interviewed Erica Jane, she hadn't, she
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: was not watcher of it. She's like, I watch Law
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: and Order. She did not really watch it. And she was,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: you know, very aloof and kind of strange those first
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: couple years because I think that's what she was. Yeah.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: I think she was in this weird transactional marriage.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: For sure.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: With this asshole who she knew was probably cheating, but
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: she was like, who cares? I can never divorce you
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: because I don't have a prenup and I know you're
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: going to fuck me hard. So go fuck your assistant
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: so I don't have to. Let me have my gaze
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: and my bedazzle and go have some fun in San Francisco.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: Here's your card. And she's like, see ya. And then
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: this opportunity came up. She's like, fine, I'll do it.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: Maybe it'll lead to something else. And then it did. Yeah.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: And then it did. And now she's like the coolest
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: fucking chick ever.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: Love Erika Jayne so much. So much. No, but that's true.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: That's true. And that's why she was so likable. And
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: I think the problem is a lot of these women
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: sign up to be a star. And that's fine. That's fine.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: But authenticity is missing nowadays. And that's the reason why
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: we look at Bronwyn. I believe everything she's telling me.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: I'm here for it. I love it.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: She's being authentic and real and honest. Yeah, for sure.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: This is by far.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: How do you think the husband feels that she revealed
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: that he cheated on her?
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: Listen, listen, listen. No powerful man wants his personal. We
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: talked about this. No powerful man, billionaire or multimillionaire, wants
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: his personal business out there because he has to be
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: in a ballroom with some powerful people. And he doesn't
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: want that to be a distraction.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: I'm sure he was not happy about that. Hence him
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: coming to the reunion.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: God, this was so fun. Carlos King, tell everybody where
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: they can get more of your wisdom.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: And your delight and fun and laugh. Where do the
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: raindrops go?
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: Yes, the raindrops. I love you guys. So the raindrops,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: my podcast, Reality with the King, Tuesdays and Thursdays, wherever
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: you get your podcasts, also on YouTube. And I have
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: Love and Marriage Huntsville that airs every Saturday.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: And that's your own show.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: That's my own show on Oprah Winfrey's network.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: Very nice. We didn't even get into Potomac, but Potomac
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: is so shockingly sexual and like crazy.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: Stacey and TJ and the Mia thing.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: And then like with Ray and like and Karen. Yeah. Madame.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: And we're supposed to believe that he's choking her. We're like,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: shut up. I can't.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: I can't.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: Thank you everybody Remember to go to heathermcdonald.net for my
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: dates and everything and Patreon and all the good stuff
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: Thank you, bye The car is beautiful Where did you
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: end up going for it?
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 5: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with They have
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 5: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: Else You have to put me in touch What's it called?
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 5: It's Dune ADL Where? Dune ADL There's an accent on
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: the E.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: Do you mean.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: Yes, I got it on Dune Deal Cars Lyft?
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: Please. Are you going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage?
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: Done deal, cars.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 5: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.