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Ep. 669: MeatEater Radio Live! Bloated Gators, Feral Apples, and The Price is Right · The MeatEater Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Smell us Now, Lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia the
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  Speaker 1: Meter podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain
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  Speaker 2: Time on Thursday, d February twenty seventh, and we're live
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  Speaker 2: from met Eater HQ and Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 2: Spencer Newhart, joined today by Ryan Callahan and Cory Hawkins.
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  Speaker 2: On today's show, we'll interview Kim Titterington about sick bloated
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  Speaker 2: alligators in Florida. Then we'll play the Price Is Right,
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  Speaker 2: followed by one minute fishing with Christy Holmes and Maine.
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  Speaker 2: After that, we've got a hot tip off about recycled
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  Speaker 2: tent tarps and dip can wndicators, and finally we'll talk
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  Speaker 2: to Dave Ben Scotterer about hunting for lost varieties of apples.
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  Speaker 2: The first, cal Corey, I think we need to debrief
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  Speaker 2: on our travel home from the NWTF convention. It was
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  Speaker 2: sort of an adventure for all three of us.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, flying in the winter is always an adventure. I
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  Speaker 3: really disliked traveling through the air. I don't mind airplanes,
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  Speaker 3: but airports trying to get your connection it's.
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  Speaker 2: Just a headache. Cal let's start with you. We had
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  Speaker 2: an uber leaving the hotel for US three and Yannie.
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  Speaker 2: At what time was it? Five thirty am? Yeah? Cal
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  Speaker 2: was nowhere to be seen, calling his phone, uh, trying
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  Speaker 2: to find someone at the front desk to tell us
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  Speaker 2: what room you were in. I even called the hotel.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody answered at the hotel, so we could just like
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  Speaker 2: compound on your door. Cal was nowhere to be seen.
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  Speaker 2: Cal would happened?
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  Speaker 1: First thing that we need to address is I think
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  Speaker 1: either Phil actually has volume in my headset for the
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  Speaker 1: first time in a long time, or your announcer voice
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  Speaker 1: is just getting so much better every day. One the
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  Speaker 1: second one, I missed the first flight of my entire life.
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  Speaker 2: Really, oh, that was the.
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  Speaker 1: First time I've ever missed a flight. And I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you in the past, in my wilder days, I had
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  Speaker 1: plenty of excuses to miss flights.
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  Speaker 2: Just a little sleepy this time, Well, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I woke up like an hour before, as you do,
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  Speaker 1: like if you're you're anxious traveler, right, I woke up
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  Speaker 1: an hour before the alarm was supposed.
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  Speaker 4: To go off.
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  Speaker 1: We had another big day in Salt Lake City, so
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm going to try to sleep this
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  Speaker 1: extra hour, and it had just like the whole anxiety
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  Speaker 1: dream thing of like you're gonna miss your flight, You're flight,
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  Speaker 1: And then I was like, I have an alarm set
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  Speaker 1: the normal thing. And then I was like, bye, God,
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  Speaker 1: my flight is boarding right now, as I got out
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  Speaker 1: of bed to no alarm. Sure, right, But I made
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  Speaker 1: it to the airport in time to see you guys
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  Speaker 1: take off.
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  Speaker 2: That's special.
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  Speaker 3: We were delayed because there's light on the runway, so
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  Speaker 3: we were probably thirty minutes late.
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  Speaker 2: I felt extra bad Cal pulling away in that uber
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  Speaker 2: because you saved me in Philadelphia coming home from the
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  Speaker 2: Live Tour, because I was a sleepy head, had too
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  Speaker 2: much champagne the night before for celebrating the end of
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  Speaker 2: the Live tour. Yea, and I woke up to Cal
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  Speaker 2: pounding on my hotel room door.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't gonna leave a man behind.
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  Speaker 2: Get up, let's go, we gotta go, We gotta go.
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  Speaker 2: And Cal saved me from missing a flight after a
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  Speaker 2: very long week on the road or ten days on.
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  Speaker 4: The road, literally on the road in the tour bus.
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  Speaker 2: And I couldn't return the favor for you. I devastated,
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  Speaker 2: believe me.
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  Speaker 1: That popped into my head, and when I saw the
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  Speaker 1: text from Spencer, I was like, I'm not even gonna
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  Speaker 1: bring it up.
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking about it the whole time. Cal I
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  Speaker 2: was trying to do everything I could to wake you up.
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  Speaker 5: I've heard her recounting of this story, and in the story,
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  Speaker 5: Spencer is just silent, like like you just kind of
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  Speaker 5: walked down, walked into the elevator, walked out of the lobby,
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  Speaker 5: just didn't say anything to anybody.
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  Speaker 2: Boy, I felt bad. I was holding up an uber
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  Speaker 2: outside the hotel, and then because of this lightning delay, Cory,
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  Speaker 2: you were running through an airport.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I had a fifty minute layover and
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  Speaker 3: then we were thirty to forty minutes delayed. So Yanni
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  Speaker 3: and I were on the same flight. Cali were supposed
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  Speaker 3: to be on that one, the.
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  Speaker 2: Red flash, it's what people called you to moving through
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  Speaker 2: the airport, so quickly get into that next flight.
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  Speaker 3: I was walking making it had to pee, so certainly
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  Speaker 3: had to make.
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  Speaker 6: That pit stop.
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  Speaker 3: And then I looked down at my watch and realized
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  Speaker 3: I need to run the last probably quarter mile all
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  Speaker 3: the way to the very end of the terminal.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, And the lady's like.
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  Speaker 2: Are you Cory like, yep, she's like you better hurry up.
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  Speaker 2: WHOA you don't want to hear your name at an airport?
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  Speaker 6: No, definitely not.
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  Speaker 1: I like to be Yeah, yeah, it's it's the whole thing,
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  Speaker 1: like air travel is just not there's you know, there's
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  Speaker 1: plenty of anxiety, and then you're signing up to sit
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  Speaker 1: in like a recycled the germ and fart filled tube
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  Speaker 1: for hours. Yeah, trying your best not to make too
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  Speaker 1: much physical contact with strangers next to you.
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  Speaker 2: My adventure didn't start until we were about to land.
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  Speaker 2: We were coming into Bozeman. We're dropping into the runway
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  Speaker 2: and the wheels hit the runway for about one or
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  Speaker 2: two seconds, and then the pilot hits the throttle and
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  Speaker 2: pulls the nose up and we go back into the
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  Speaker 2: air and everyone in the airplane was very confused. Folks
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  Speaker 2: are looking around each other and nobody like panicked, but
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  Speaker 2: you could tell there were folks that were like on
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  Speaker 2: the verge of panicking. If it would have started somewhere
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  Speaker 2: else in the in the airplane, it would have been
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  Speaker 2: a chain reaction. So nobody knew what was happening. And
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  Speaker 2: about a minute later, the pilot comes on the speaker,
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  Speaker 2: and he says that, sorry, folks, we had a wind
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  Speaker 2: shear at the last second there that was gonna was
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  Speaker 2: gonna prevent us from landing, so we had to pull
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  Speaker 2: her back up. We're gonna circle around and try this again.
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  Speaker 2: And so then ten minutes later, they don't just go
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  Speaker 2: up in the air a little bit, they like get
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  Speaker 2: way up again in altitude, and he circles back and
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  Speaker 2: we come in and we have a safe, normal landing.
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  Speaker 2: But he said, we had a wind she here, which
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  Speaker 2: is like a gust of wind that totally affected the
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  Speaker 2: plane and made it unsafe. But there was no wind
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  Speaker 2: that day. I looked on my phone it was one
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  Speaker 2: mile per hour wind. And so then I was on
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  Speaker 2: my phone also reading about like what what does this mean.
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  Speaker 2: It's called an aborted landing, And I had read a
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  Speaker 2: pilot's account saying that they have no obligation to actually
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  Speaker 2: tell you what happened. But that's like a common excuse.
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  Speaker 2: It's either the runway wasn't clear or there was a
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  Speaker 2: wind she here, But sometimes it's just they're coming in
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  Speaker 2: too hot and they made a mistake and they got
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  Speaker 2: to lift off again to try it a second time.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even know that was an option in airplane travel,
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  Speaker 2: and especially with all the recent news. Yeah, that was
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  Speaker 2: genuinely scary.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Minute, We had just like a shaky flight coming back
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  Speaker 1: because we flew the day after you know, that collision
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  Speaker 1: and the plane went down the Hudson, which was you know, horrific.
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  Speaker 2: And was it the Hudson or the Potomac?
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  Speaker 4: Was Potomac?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sorry Potomac. That was a different plane in
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  Speaker 1: the Hudson. But anyway, yeah, folks, you know, it was
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  Speaker 1: just like a what to me is like a very
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  Speaker 1: normal winter flying amount of turbulence, and I had multiple
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  Speaker 1: people comment on my boy.
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  Speaker 4: People were very nervous, sure, very nervous.
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  Speaker 2: But we made it here today to host media to
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  Speaker 2: Radio Live. All right, let's get on the show. Joining
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  Speaker 2: us on the line first is Kim Titterington, the founder
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  Speaker 2: of Swamp Girl Adventures Reptile Rehab. Kim, welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, thanks for having me, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. First thing, tell us about the types of
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  Speaker 2: animals and injuries you work with at your rehab facility.
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  Speaker 7: So I specifically work with reptiles and amphibians, So that's turtles, tortoises, steaks, alligators, lizards, frogs, toads,
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  Speaker 7: you know all those fun things.
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  Speaker 2: And what's the we have facility right now.
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  Speaker 7: We have a couple of gators, We have a couple
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  Speaker 7: of snakes, and I have quite a few turtles and tortoises,
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  Speaker 7: because that's really what we get the most of.
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  Speaker 2: And what is like the most normal injury that you
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  Speaker 2: deal with.
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  Speaker 7: Typically it's from either hit by car, so car strikes
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  Speaker 7: are the most often. But then our second one to
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  Speaker 7: that is actually dog attacks on turtles and tortoises, believe
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  Speaker 7: it or not, So that's our second one. So we
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  Speaker 7: get a lot of both of those.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, and do you have any of your clients around
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  Speaker 2: that you could show us for the interview today.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I actually I have a gopher tortoise here on my grandma.
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  Speaker 7: This is gopher tortoise and you're gonna see he's got
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  Speaker 7: some stuff going on here. This is called the hooks
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  Speaker 7: and wire method. So it's not permanent. It's basically it's
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  Speaker 7: kind of the same stuff as a use for Nalocrylic
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  Speaker 7: helps keep the little clasps on and that reduces and
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  Speaker 7: supports the fracture so that it has time to heal.
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  Speaker 7: So this poor guy. He was hit by a car,
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  Speaker 7: but he's he's doing a good job healing right now
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  Speaker 7: with those fractures.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, And is the end goal then to have him
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  Speaker 2: released back into the wild correct?
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  Speaker 7: Yeap, as soon as he's done, you know, with all
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  Speaker 7: of his rehabilitation, he'll go back to the area he
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  Speaker 7: was found. Obviously not in the middle of the street
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  Speaker 7: where he was found, but as close by safely to
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  Speaker 7: the area he was found.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's looking healthy right now. I think you're doing
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  Speaker 2: a good job, Kim. What's the rarest animal that you've
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  Speaker 2: had at your facility.
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  Speaker 7: The rarest would actually be the Eastern Indigo snake and
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  Speaker 7: they are federally protected by law. They're very rare throughout
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  Speaker 7: their whole eastern range. But I've actually received two into care,
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  Speaker 7: which is pretty rare.
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  Speaker 2: And what was going on with those snakes that they
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  Speaker 2: had to come to you?
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  Speaker 7: So one the first one was actually had been hit
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  Speaker 7: with some wawn equipment and survived. It was, you know,
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  Speaker 7: some nasty scars were going on there, but that one survived.
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  Speaker 7: And then the second one was actually a zip tie
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  Speaker 7: that the snake had crawled through, and then obviously it
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  Speaker 7: couldn't come off, so it was literally cutting into the
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  Speaker 7: flesh and had been there for quite some time. But
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  Speaker 7: that one was also successfully rehabbed and released.
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  Speaker 2: And what's your favorite rehab success story from Swamp Girl Adventures.
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  Speaker 7: You know, there's a ton of them, but one that
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  Speaker 7: stands out that I feel like is the most unusual
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  Speaker 7: and uh, it just it's actually pretty rewarding. Was one
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  Speaker 7: where we had a golf A snake had swallowed a
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  Speaker 7: golf ball, and so the golf ball. Yeah, the golf
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  Speaker 7: ball had to be surgically removed because it had been
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  Speaker 7: in there so long it was adhering to the stomach lining,
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  Speaker 7: so it had to be a surgery. We couldn't like
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  Speaker 7: just you know, push it out. But the surgery was
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  Speaker 7: a success and the snake was released. So that was
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  Speaker 7: probably one of the most unusual but rewarding.
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  Speaker 2: Is it safe to assume that snake thought he was
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  Speaker 2: eating an egg?
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  Speaker 7: Correct? Yeah. A lot of people will actually use golf
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  Speaker 7: balls or false eggs in there in with their chickens,
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  Speaker 7: and that helps kind to keep them, I guess, from
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  Speaker 7: going off into other places and keeping the eggs in
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  Speaker 7: one spot. But then I've also heard that people will
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  Speaker 7: put golf balls in there or fake eggs because then
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  Speaker 7: when snakes come, they end up, you know, not being
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  Speaker 7: able to digest it and will die later, which is
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  Speaker 7: kind of cool because that's a long, nasty death. But yeah,
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  Speaker 7: that's Do.
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  Speaker 4: You feel appreciated by your clientele, you know.
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  Speaker 7: Even though they're reptiles? You know, I think that a
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  Speaker 7: lot of times I get some that they realize that, Okay,
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  Speaker 7: this person's just kind of helping me out. I'm just
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  Speaker 7: going to chill. But then you know, I have those
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  Speaker 7: that that they don't. They're just like, just to stop
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  Speaker 7: touching me. I don't care, just go away.
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  Speaker 2: Now. The big reason I wanted to talk to you, Kim,
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  Speaker 2: is about this bloated gator phenomenon that you've been documenting
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  Speaker 2: in Florida. Can you tell us about that?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, so back some of the first reports that went
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  Speaker 7: into FWC. We're actually back in twenty twenty three, and
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  Speaker 7: after that it just kind of seemed like people I
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  Speaker 7: had seen them, but nobody really said anything, or the
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  Speaker 7: reports weren't going through whatever the reason, it kind of
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  Speaker 7: just fell off the radar. So just this year, all
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  Speaker 7: of a sudden, you know, I was getting as a
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  Speaker 7: rep caw rehabit. People are like, hey, well can you help,
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  Speaker 7: And I'm like, all right, well sure, you know, let
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  Speaker 7: me go take a look. And we captured the first
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  Speaker 7: one and which you can kind of see on the
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  Speaker 7: screen now, and she definitely was severely bloated, extremely emaciated.
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  Speaker 7: And then not even three days later, I got a
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  Speaker 7: call about another one in a completely different part of
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  Speaker 7: the state, in all the same bloated, very emaciated. So
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  Speaker 7: this is something that seems to be on the uprise,
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  Speaker 7: or at least we're hearing more about it now that
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  Speaker 7: people know to look, but definitely a concern.
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  Speaker 2: And Phil is showing us some photos of these bloated
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  Speaker 2: gators and when I say bloated, I mean like they
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  Speaker 2: look like a balloon. They look wildly uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this current photo is like too, like over sized
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  Speaker 1: beach balls coming out of each side of the gator,
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  Speaker 1: like like it swallowed a cartoon.
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  Speaker 2: Dumbbell, Kim, do you have a hypothesis for what's causing
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  Speaker 2: these gators to get so bloated and ultimately die?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, So it's one thing we were able to roll
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  Speaker 7: out is that there was not a physical blockage like
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  Speaker 7: a lot of people like, oh, it ate a ball
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  Speaker 7: or you know, maybe it's a plastic bag or something
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  Speaker 7: like that. We were able to roll that out on
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  Speaker 7: both these cases. Sadly, both of them did pass away.
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  Speaker 7: What you're seeing here on X ray is what we
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  Speaker 7: first saw, and it looks like a lot of stones,
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  Speaker 7: but what they're called is fecoliths, and it's basically when
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  Speaker 7: the feces turned to stone. So the feces had been
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  Speaker 7: in the stomach, not moving or passing for so long,
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  Speaker 7: possibly even up to a year with this one particular case,
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  Speaker 7: and then gas just starts to build up in the
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  Speaker 7: colon and so on the cropsy we found that basically
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  Speaker 7: their colons were just, you know, all distended with these And.
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  Speaker 2: Have you heard of this happening in other states or
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  Speaker 2: other countries. Not really.
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  Speaker 7: Usually when something happens like that, they contribute it to
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  Speaker 7: a piece of litter or something that's incidental. But at
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  Speaker 7: this point, we're seeing these cases throughout the state and
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  Speaker 7: we just cannot seem to find a common denominator. Yet
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  Speaker 7: some of the symptoms like we're seeing here, we're common,
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  Speaker 7: like the pecalists and those build up and then the gas,
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  Speaker 7: so the progression of the disease, But it's actual cause.
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  Speaker 7: We have a ton of labs out right now, we're
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  Speaker 7: just waiting on results, and we're going to be doing
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  Speaker 7: a lot more testing here this coming year on various
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  Speaker 7: gaters as well throughout the.
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  Speaker 2: State, and Phil is showing us an X ray there
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  Speaker 2: of one of those bloated gators. While most of the
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: folks listening to this show were hunters and anglers who
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  Speaker 2: spend a lot of time outside, So how can we
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  Speaker 2: be better stewards of the land and help out the
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  Speaker 2: reptiles and amphibians that you work with.
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  Speaker 5: I think the.
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  Speaker 7: Biggest thing is, you know, picking up after yourself. I
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  Speaker 7: actually one of the things is one of the x
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  Speaker 7: rays that I had also sent you that gator had
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  Speaker 7: a lead toxicosis as well, and that was because the
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  Speaker 7: gator swallowed a lead weight from fishing. Now was that
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  Speaker 7: the actual cause? Probably not, because it seems like we're
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  Speaker 7: finding glueted gators that don't have lead toxicosis. It's just
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  Speaker 7: that was an added thing. So that's something that we
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  Speaker 7: see a lot in both like aquatic turtles and alligators,
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  Speaker 7: to any animal that might ingest something like that accidentally
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  Speaker 7: through phishing. Mores or things that were disposed improperly and
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  Speaker 7: they pick it up out of the environment. So I
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  Speaker 7: think those are the biggest things. And then the next
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  Speaker 7: thing is awareness. You know, just be aware if someone's
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  Speaker 7: looking for reports, like say we are on sick gators
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  Speaker 7: or sick turtles. If you see something that just doesn't
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  Speaker 7: seem right and you see it happen often go ahead
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  Speaker 7: and report it. You could be the first one who's
• 15:50
  Speaker 7: noticing that there's a problem and people need to research it.
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  Speaker 7: So if you are out there, that's one of the
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  Speaker 7: best things you can do is just be aware and
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  Speaker 7: help make those reports and observation.
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  Speaker 2: Now. Kim's rehab facility is a nonprofit that relies on donations.
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  Speaker 2: You can support her projects by going to Swampgirladventures dot org. Kim,
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  Speaker 2: thanks for joining us and thanks for doing the work
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  Speaker 2: that you do.
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  Speaker 7: Not a problem. Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 2: There's a good reminder for everyone. Pick up after yourself
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  Speaker 2: when you're out in the woods.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, man, I'm not going to complain next time I
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: have one too many hazy IPAs and feel a little bloated.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Those gators look so wildly uncomfortable, man, And then re
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: seat the X ray of the blockage. That's next level
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: stuff it is.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was shocking.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: All right. Our next segment is the Prices right here.
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: It comes from Bozeman, Montana Media Radio's most exciting fifteen minutes.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: It's the Prices.
• 16:49
  Speaker 8: Right, yeah, right, Ryan Callahan come on down. Yeah, Cory
• 16:59
  Speaker 8: Calkins come on now, his second appearance.
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: All right, course, two contestants on Meat Eaters meet and
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: the radios the price is right. Now, here's your host,
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: Spencer New Phil.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: That was Cal's first time seeing that performance. I think
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: he's impressed.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: I yeah, I feel I actually feel special.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: Oh god, that's amazing. That's the idea.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Now, this game is really simple. Phil is going to
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: tell you about a product from the Meat Eater universe,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: and you need to guess its price. The player with
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: the closest answer without going over will be declared the winner.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: If both players go over, then you'll both be told
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: to try again, and the chat should play along as well,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: because whoever has the closest answer will get a shout
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: out from Phil. All right, there are five products for
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: today's show. Phil tell us about the first item up forbid.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: Oh, well, how would you like to scare every man? Woman?
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: Child?
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: And beast who enters your home. Well, we've got just
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: the thing you. This brown bear is a half body
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: mount that hangs on your wall. It's posed with its
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: arms extended out as though it's getting sucked into a
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: portal or is about to sack a quarterback. And the
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: owner says he'll cut you a deal if you also
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: buy his have alena shoulder mount or shark jaw.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this beautiful piece of taxidermy is located in West
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Houston and was listed on Craigslist ten days ago. Now
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: you need to guess its price. Phil is now showing
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: us some photos of this half mount taxidermied brown bear.
• 18:30
  Speaker 9: Again.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: I found this on Craigslist in Houston, Texas. Houston, Texas.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: That's right, not half that this.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: This is one of those things like, uh, do you
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: have one of those roadside attraction type shops, then it's
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: worth some money.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Sure, do you live in an apartment in New York City?
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Well you can sort of get a glimpse into this
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: person's home. You see a fellow there with some suspenders.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: Suspenders.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Brant Reeves sitting in the back onto this photo. And
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: we've got a few pictures here of this half body
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: mount of a brown Bear in Houston, Texas.
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: Is he trying to get rid of it?
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Or is he trying to make some money?
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: It was listed ten days ago, hot, so factor that
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: into your calculation again. You can't go over. If you
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: both go over, you'll be told to try again.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Cal really likes his answer.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Really you ready, Corey? Ready, Cal go ahead and reveal
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: your answers. We have Cal saying seventy five dollars and
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: one cent. We have Corey saying, what's that? Say? Corey,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: fourteen fifty dollars, fourteen hundred with an or commas so
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: big that it looks like a seven. Corey saying fourteen
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars. That's a big swing between YouTube. Now, Cal,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: was that a safe answer or do you think it's
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: actually like an eighty dollars item? Were you just trying
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: to go under?
• 19:57
  Speaker 9: No?
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I mean we all know that the taxidermy like is
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: the most valuable to the person that got the critter
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: or somebody related, right, and so then it like devalues
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: greatly beyond that unless you're like a curio person, right,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: or like I want to have a weird hip vrbo.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that would fit into one of those nice
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: We have Cal saying seventy five dollars, Cory saying fourteen
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: hundred dollars. The correct answer is nine hundred and fifty dollars,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: giving Cal the first point of the day, Phil, how
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: does the chat do fast?
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: Math?
• 20:31
  Speaker 10: Oh?
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: We have three people. Get it right on the money,
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: Cody Canadian Hunter and Ian McKenzie said nine to fifty.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Well done, Cody, Canadian Hunter and Ian McKenzie. We trust
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: that you're not googling?
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if I don't know if
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: we should trust that you're not.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: We remove where you found the item from your next
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: next one.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: That's pretty quick googling though that You know what, if
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: they got it that fast to put in the chat
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: for Phil to find that they earned.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: It, well, don't listen to that.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: Kids.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Cheating's wrong, all.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Right, Phil tell us about the second item up forbid.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: Sure thing, Well, you're in your living room with the
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: taxi turmied brown Bear. Won't be complete until you bring
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: home this camouflage sofa from Kabbella's Snuggle up for a
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: meat eater marathon with the whole family on this best
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: Home Furnishing Outdoorsman sofa The entire thing is wrapped in
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: massioak break up camo, making it impossible to spot whatever
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: stains you might create. This seven foot sofa doubles as
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: a recliner, allowing you to kick your feet up and
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: relax after a long day of being a redneck.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Hell yeah, Phil, And that Camo sofa has a perfect
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: five star rating from six reviews on kabellas dot com.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: What are those people sitting on? They're just floating?
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: That's right, you sure think so? All right, Caln Corey,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: what do you think that elegant piece of furniture costs?
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Don't flip over your answers quite yet, or do you
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: just ask us? Well, I'm like prompting you to write
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: it down, but we got some time to you know,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: banter and allow you guys to think long and hard
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: about what your answer is this give.
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: The chat a little hand.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Fully, Fully, camel, when I say fully camo, there's not
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: a square inch of this sofa that is not covered
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: in the massioke breakup infinity.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: If you wear the same pattern, all that's gonna show
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: is your face.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: So you could you could take this thing turkey hunting
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: and then you just wear the Massio Baker.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: We've got people who are definitely googling chat. I don't
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: know who to trust anymore. Are you boys ready?
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: Sure?
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Go ahead and reveal your answers. We've got cal saying
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: four hundred dollars, four hundred five dollars, and we've got
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Corey saying eight hundred and fifty dollars. The correct answer
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: is one thousand, four hundred forty nine dollars, giving Corey
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: our second point. All right, Phil, tell us about the
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: cheaters in the chat.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: Well, we have we have one person. Get to get
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: it right on the fourteen forty nine up here. I
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: don't even want to call people out now. I don't
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: trust anybody shut the whole thing down.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Did they put ninety nine cents after they did?
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: But he's gonna guess fourteen forty nine unless they looked
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: it up. We had some people guess fourteen fifty and
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: a couple of people in the thirteen hundreds.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: I'm willing to give them the.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: Benefit of the doubt here, but no, I'm sorry.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: All right, I'll tell you right now, retail pricing is
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: just not something I'm familiar with.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: Ryan Kimberl said fourteen ninety nine, ninety nine, he's got
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: three of.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Our god awesome Ryan. I love that, and I'm sorry
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: for writing that mean line about kicking your feet up
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: after a long day of being a redneck. I bet
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: you're a good guy.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I need to go back to used pricing. That's I'm
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: familiar with.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I bet I could find one of these sofas on
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Craigslist somewhere in the nation. All right, Phil, tell us
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: about the third item up forbid.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, give me one second. I get everything lined
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: up here. I'd love to Oh, where's the music is?
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Hey?
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: If you're looking for a movie marathon to watch from
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: your new Camo sofa or three, how about reaching for
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: all forty one DVDs from Drury Outdoors. That's right, The
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: big butt Killers over at Drewy Outdoors have dozens of
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: DVDs for sale on their website, with titles ranging from
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: Whitetail Madness twelve to Whitetails Extreme four all the way
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: to white Tail Obsession seven. These videos will give you
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: hundreds of kill shots, thousands of inches of antler, and
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: endless opportunities to ask yourself, what the hell am I
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: going to do with forty one hunting DVDs.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Well, Phil, I'd hope those DVDs come with the time
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: machine because that's the only way I'm watching a movie
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: from a disc. Callan Corey. What do you think those
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: forty one Drewry Outdoors DVDs cost?
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Where are we purchasing this now?
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: From their website on the Drewey Outdoors. I think it's
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: like store. If you want to buy the stored dot
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: drewyoutdoors dot com, you can buy all forty one of
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: their available DVDs. Phil, when's the last time you bought
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: a DVD?
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Act?
• 24:51
  Speaker 11: Now?
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Inventory is limited?
• 24:52
  Speaker 12: Oh?
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: Man? Well, I mean if we're gonna count four K
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: steel books, Spencer, I mean it's you know, four k's
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: like super HD. But what a steel deal? But you
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: know you sometimes, well back in the day used to
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: buy like collectible steel books. It was it wasn't just
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: a plastic case. It was like a nice metal thing.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: Though then you have never heard of this, Phil.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: You gotta be more. You gotta listen to more movie podcasts.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: So the last time you bought a DVD is.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: It's been over a year. I don't. I I'm really bad.
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: You think i'd be like a physical media forever guy,
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: I'm just not man, I'm too lazy. I just everything's
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: on digital now, video games, movies, TV.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: It's it's bad.
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: I feel guilty.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: How many DVDs are in your home?
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: You think, oh, I've got a I've got a couple
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: of hundred, but I haven't added to the collection in
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: a long long time.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Do your kids find that like like they're looking at
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: a caveman when you grab one of those.
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: Well, actually no, because we've got a DVD player in
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: our minivan, so they associate DVD so this is what
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: we can watch in the car. So they still would
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: see see a DVD in the store and say, well,
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: I want to watch this in the car.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: So let's let's pick the same thing.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: Which have a minivan you're rocking all wheel drive.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: That's a Plymouth, uh Montana Pontiac Montana.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Baby, show up on a future route meeting your prices, right, Corey, Cal,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Do you have your answers?
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: So is this the last one?
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: No?
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: We got five of the boys. All right, go ahead
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: and reveal your answers. We've got Cal saying forty nine
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: ninety nine, Corey saying twenty nine ninety nine. Again, that's
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: for the price of forty one Jewelry Outdoors DVDs.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: I'm assuming shipping is free.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: The correct answer is sixty one dollars in nine cents,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: giving cal our third point to the.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Game, a big buck knowledge for nothing.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: One lead you find those on YouTube. That's a dollar
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: forty nine per DVD.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon's gonna get a nasty phone call from the
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Dreary Boys, being like Corey Colkins does not think much
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: of us.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Hey, we just I bet we sold their whole inventory.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: I'm being serious. Now, if I had a deer camp
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: in like the Great Lakes region that didn't have like
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: cell service and an old box TV sitting there with
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: a DVD player, Uh, you best bet if you left, Yann?
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: What is happening, Yanny?
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Grab yourself a whiteboard, put on a headset.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: What the hell, Spencer, I'm here and invite.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I thought you were recording a TV show.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: Oh is that a fresh new lid?
• 27:25
  Speaker 13: It is actually had Corey give it to make someone
• 27:27
  Speaker 13: to give it to a buddy of mine.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Oh that thing's charp.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: We're playing the price is right. We just had Cory.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: You got about ten minutes, all right, Grab yourself a
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: whiteboard and a Marker Cal has two points. Corey has
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: one point. They just guessed the price of all forty
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: one Jewelry Outdoors DVDs that are for sale on their website.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: What do you think that would cost? Total total for all.
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: Of them?
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Killing big old giant white Tail Bucks.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: If you want to know something funny about Giannis, if
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: the text on his screen, if the font gets any larger,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: he's gonna have to scroll for every sentence eight.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: One hundred and fifty, eight hundred and fifty dollars sixty
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: one dollars and nine cents. What Yeah, you can buy
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: all the package for one. You should have these at
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: your hunting camp in Wisconsin.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: You just got a new customer, Drewio nowis no, Well,
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: we don't have.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: Televisions there, okay.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: By the way, Sean Pettitt or petit, Yes, sixty, I think.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: That was sewn sixty.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Well done, Sean. I bet you didn't google that one professional. Yes,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: all right, Bell, tell us about the fourth item up forbid.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: Sorry to take me away. Hey, if you're feeling inspired
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: from those forty one Drewy Outdoors DVDs, how about taking
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: a trip to the Michigan White Tail Hall of Fame
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: conveniently located just off By ninety four in the charming
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: town of Grass Lake, Michigan.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: The museum is full.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Of family fun.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: The Michigan Whitetail Hall of Fame features taxidermy of some
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: of the state's biggest bucks, live deer that you can
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: feed out in an on spiring collection of antique two
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: man chainsaws. The ven you would also love to host
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: your next special occasions, such as a wedding or family reunion.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: That's right, Phil, and the owners of the museum also
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: have a tennis and pickleball court in the building where
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: they teach private lessons. But for now, you just need
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: to guess the price of adult admission to the Michigan
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Whitetail Hall of Fame. Yanni, did you know this place existed?
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: No, but I definitely want to go there.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, And as a Michigander, give us a review of
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Grass Lake, Michigan. What do you know about that place?
• 29:31
  Speaker 13: I don't know anything about grass Have you never been there?
• 29:33
  Speaker 13: Never heard of it?
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: On the men, I don't know. Someone in the chattel
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: tell us what they think of Grass Lake, and then yeah, Detroit.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: So again we need the price of admission for one
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: adult to the Michigan Whitetail Hall of Fame, and Phil
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: is showing us some photos of that Hall of Fame
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: with those big old giant whitetail bucks, the live deer
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: that you can feed, and their collection of antiques two
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: man chainsaws.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: More or less than ten dollars. I don't think it's over.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Giving you any hints. But if you do go over,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter how close you are to the right answer.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: You're just disqualified. Oh really, three of you will go over.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: You gotta be under, you gotta be under. These are
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: the prices, right, it'll be under.
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: I wonder if that's.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Extra, that's not part of the admission. That's just like, Hey,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: I got a whole day to kill in grass like Michigan.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go feed these big old white tail bucks
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: and get a private pickleball lesson in the back.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: For folks who are scared of privately owned museums, like,
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: there is just no better way to spend your money.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: It is so much fun.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Is that a thing people are scared of privately owned museum?
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I think so too, because they look I mean, they
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: look exactly like the place that you get killed in
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: a variety of cheap horror films.
• 30:54
  Speaker 13: Buddy, I got a great story about one that you
• 30:57
  Speaker 13: should all everybody should visit. This one out in eastern Collego,
• 31:00
  Speaker 13: and I think it's genoah Colorado, and it's wild and
• 31:05
  Speaker 13: wacky man.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: And it's often just like a husband and wife who
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: curated everything in there. And that's how you wind up
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: with a white tail hall of fame that has a
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: collection of antique chainsaws in it? Are you boys ready?
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: I'm ready.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Go ahead and reveal your answers. We've got Cal saying
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: twelve ninety nine, Giannis says twelve dollars. Corey says twenty
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: one dollars.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: I'm feeling good. You're high, Budden good.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: All three of you are too high. All three of
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: you are going to try again. So write down a
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: new answer and we'll give someone a point after this.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: It's take a drama.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Get under the correct answer. The price of admission for
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: one adult to the Michigan like Tail Hall of Fame. Yeah,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: he's going back to his drawing board. We know it's
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: lower than twelve dollars.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Fantastic one. I've been there several times, but I finally
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: took my folks to the Ice Caves Museum out of Shoshown, Idaho,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: U and it's it's phenomenal. I encourage everybody to go.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: But when we went there, you know, it's like taking
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: the folks someplace special. The two kids family members wouldn't
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: get off that a little tiny TV that they were watching,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: and they wouldn't.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: Get off the couch to even take the money.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: They were just like, uh huh, and they're just kind
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: of pointing at Just put the money in the bucket
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: and there you go.
• 32:30
  Speaker 13: Yeah, it was amazing this place. We would go today.
• 32:32
  Speaker 13: I've been there twice, taking a couple of different friends
• 32:35
  Speaker 13: there on our travels between Michigan.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: And uh Colorado. But it was only a dollar to
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: get in.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Cool.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: But there was a year.
• 32:42
  Speaker 13: There was The first time I went there was probably
• 32:46
  Speaker 13: I don't know, late nineties or early two thousands, but
• 32:50
  Speaker 13: there was a case of oddities, and at the end
• 32:52
  Speaker 13: of the tour he would grab one thing out of
• 32:55
  Speaker 13: the case of oddities and if you could guess what
• 32:58
  Speaker 13: it was, you got.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: Your dollar back.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: That's great. I went to the Creationist Museum in Eastern Montana. Yeah, exactly.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: They have little diagrams in there of humans hand feeding dinosaurs.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: So that's a special place to visit short dinosaurs. Do
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: all three. If you have an answer, go ahead and
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: reveal your answers. Wow, okay, we've got Cal saying four
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: ninety nine. Giannis says one dollar. Corey says ten dollars.
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: I'm stuck on Bozeman prices. Everything's expensive.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: The correct answer is six dollars. Give me calls third
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: point and making him the winner of the price is right.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: But we'll finish out the game anyway, Phil, how did
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: the chat do?
• 33:39
  Speaker 11: Uh?
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: Well?
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: First we had copy guy coming with five dollars, Okay,
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: good job. Brian came in with six, and then after
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: we all found out that it was a less expensive,
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: copy guy for some reason raised his price six.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: All right, Brian, copy all right? Phil tell us about
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: the fifth and final item up forbid.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just want to do a little vamping here,
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: Spencer for a second, just want to bring this up here,
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: get rid of this comments. And then I look at
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: the script and then I say, hey, if white tails
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: aren't your thing, then how about a brand new boat?
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: This nineteen eighty nine sixteen foot aluminicraft John boat is
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: located in Rockville, Indiana. It comes with a twenty fifteen
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: twenty five horse force stroke engine, trolling motor, batteries, trailer,
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: and a badass Camo paint job. You'll be able to
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: catch all the catfish and kill all of the ducks
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: on the Wabash River with this nifty little skiff.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: And she's available right now on boattrader dot com for
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: the low low price of Well, I'm not gonna tell you, guys,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: what do you think that nineteen eighty nine John boat costs?
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: And I'll point out the script says, how about a
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: not brand new boat? This boat is not brand new.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: It's a twenty fifteen forestrokeup.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: That's what it says. But it's also been painted, eliminating
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: basically any chance you have of figuring out precisely what
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: that motor is. But they say, dang, brother, I know,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: twenty fifth, twenty five horse four street.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: I mean that's where the cost of that whole kid is.
• 35:08
  Speaker 13: Trailer anywhere.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: She's a little trailer. She's got she's got bicycle, the
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: doughnut rails on there. Now back to the Michigan Hall
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: of Fame, it's two dollars. If you're a child, and
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: it's one dollar for a bag of feed to give
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: to the deer. So everyone should stop in Grass Lake,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Michigan and check that place out, and then you can
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: play some tennis afterwards with some D one athletes that
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: are in that family. All right, do you boys have
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: a price for this not brand new boat? It's nineteen
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: eighty nine John boat that is sixteen feet long. It's
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: an Allumic craft and has a twenty fifteen four.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Streng chat way. They call me Cal, Heartbeat of America.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Callahan Cal. That's right, Yeah, I.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: Got my finger on the pulse.
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: Here.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: We'll see what he knows about boat prices. He boys, ready,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Cal saying
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: eight hundred one dollars, what Giannis says twenty two thousand
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: corey six hundred and ninety nine A lot of value?
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: How do you always have a twenty thousand dollars difference?
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: And I guess if you're listening to one of you
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: but telling us to come stro wandering in like geez.
• 36:18
  Speaker 12: I was gonna go get a loan to buy that,
• 36:21
  Speaker 12: The correct answer is three thousand, three hundred and ninety
• 36:25
  Speaker 12: nine dollars giving call his fourth point a dominant performance.
• 36:30
  Speaker 12: I can tell you Ryan in no way that that's
• 36:32
  Speaker 12: a five year old four stroke engine.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Listen, charge and painted over it.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Honestly, let me tell you how this works. If you're
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: not deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed with your first offer on
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: something on Craigslist, you are doing it.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Wrong, implying you should lowball him. Is that what you're saying?
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, that's what it's for. I understand that.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Ryan, man of the people Callahan with four points in
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: the price is right.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: Hey, thanks for letting me play Spencer.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, we'll see you later. Yeah, now, thanks for playing
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: on you. You remember to help control the pet population. Have
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: your pets Spade in New Oh.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: Really quick yet Skylar guests aptly named by the way, Skyler,
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: you guess thirty three hundred Chase Wolf, You're a dirty cheater.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: Cut it out, you know. I almost bought I was.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Hanging out with a bunch of commercial fishermen a long
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: time ago, and I almost bought a boat on Craig's List.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: It was fresh off guidance season, had a bunch of cash,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: and the dude got so pissed at my offer that
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: I kind of had to be like, Oh, I guess
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: me and my stack of cash are just gonna go
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: cry in the corner. But that guy's insult is what
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: separated me from being a successful commercial fisherman.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: But you didn't buy it.
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: I didn't didn't know.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break and get some listener feedback. Phil,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: what's the chat have to say?
• 38:00
  Speaker 10: Uh?
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, let's see. I never know how to pronounce
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: this name. I'm sorry, hovah Jova and figure. Oh question
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: for the guys, do and if you have any untraditional
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: or unusual pieces of kid that you've adopted into your
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: hunting set up over the years, anything that you've stopped bringing.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Hm hmm, I this is untraditional. But are you guys
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: familiar with the app All Trails?
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: Sure?
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've reserved saying this for a future hot
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: tip off, but I'll say it right now. All Trails
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: is primarily used by people who are not hunters and anglers,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: And so they'll go on there and they'll do some
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: specific hike and then they'll they'll share photos and write
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: a review afterwards, and they give out details that no
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: haunter would ever say. They'll say, I saw ten elk
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: and a black bear, and then they'll even have pictures
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: to show it. And so you can go on there
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: and mind little information. If you're looking at doing a
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: hunt somewhere that has like named trailheads down at all Trails,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: there's a free version you can get a lot of
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: this information. People are really nearly sharing a lot of
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: really good information that hunters are not going to tell you,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: you know, on other apps that exist for this kind
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: of thing.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: And Spencer built a little AI crawler that automatically scores
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: the bucks that people see.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can be like, yeah, well I wish I
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: did so. I'd say that's an un traditional thing that
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: I've used for hunting.
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I do something similar On Facebook.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: There's likes and whatnot, like.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: Oh watch out, there's a black bear up.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: This trailhead, Like, oh okay, well maybe I'll go spring bear.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I saw him two days ago about a mile from
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: the trailhead.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: I'll do a thing I stopped bringing and for my
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: backpack trips, Like it used to just be like a
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: really common thing that you would hear or see in
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: all the hunting articles or backpacking articles of like trying
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: to pack light is like eliminate redundancies. And even if
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: if you're in a group, right, it's like you don't
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: bring three leather men tools like you maybe one person
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: packs a leather mentol right, even sharing a rifle ers
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: you know, sharing a sleeping bag depending on how ultra
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: light you want to get. But yeah, I've quit packing
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: like my my beanie, my tuc because every everything I
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: have typically has a hood on it, so you know,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: it's a real common like sleeping kit. It's like, but
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: I just put my hood on and and have not
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: found any any need or want for the for the
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: tuke on the big backpack tours these days.
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: Hood's double just as good.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Well, last thing about all trails is a lot of
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: people take photos so you can see exactly what the
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: area looks like. You get an idea that you know
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: something that on X can't really provide you these on
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: the ground photos, and that's super helpful to show you
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: where water is, what that stream looks like if you
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: think you can cross it, so that it's it's valuable
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: for people in the West.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: Phil, what else we'll do one more?
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: Since we've got so a couple of people waiting on
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: the line, I just had oh, yeah. Here it is
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: question for Kleb Spencer. How are you feeling on Denver
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: Nuggets repeat championship this year?
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: I knew it in my bones in twenty twenty three
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: when they were going to win the championship. That was
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: one of the most satisfying things. It's like I knew
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: this all along the Nuggets were going to win that.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I didn't have that feeling last year. I don't have
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: that feeling this year. But they have a chance. They
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: I would say in the entire NBA they have. They're
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: one of the four best teams. They will be competitive.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: It's just about how far Joker, Jamal and MPJ can
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: take us.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: First name, Besis. Listen, how you got those fancy pants seats?
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I love down there on the court.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: I love the Denver Nuggets.
• 41:42
  Speaker 11: Wow.
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I love chicken Nuggets.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: All right, Moving on something in common.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Our next segment is one Minute Fishing. Do I feel lucky?
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: We'll do you dunk, go ahead, make my cast.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: One minute Fishing is where we go live to someone
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: who's fishing and they have one minute to catch a fish,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: and if they're successful, we'll make a five hundred dollars
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: donation to a conservation group. This week, our angler is
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Christy Holmes in Maine and she's fishing for a donation
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: to the Downiest Salmon Federation. Christy, welcome to the show.
• 42:17
  Speaker 9: Hi, thanks for having me.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Christy. Tell us about what you're doing out on that
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: icy lake today.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:23
  Speaker 9: We are actually on a tidal river, the Kenneback River,
• 42:27
  Speaker 9: are near kind of near the capital of our state, Augusta.
• 42:30
  Speaker 9: We are fishing for sea run rainbow smelts. You guys
• 42:34
  Speaker 9: are probably familiar with the little smelts. Well, these ones
• 42:37
  Speaker 9: are about seven to nine inches and some people using.
• 42:42
  Speaker 9: Some people kepting some smeuts in the background.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Is that is that a good Is that a good
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: holler we're hearing behind you.
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, don't get good hollers.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but don't they kind of like push through and runs. Sorry,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: are you missing your opportunity right now?
• 42:58
  Speaker 9: No, we've already caught about a dozen, so we're doing okay.
• 43:02
  Speaker 9: But this is like a commercials smelt operation. So you
• 43:06
  Speaker 9: rent a shack for about six hours, and you know,
• 43:11
  Speaker 9: the most people use the smelt to eat. They're wicked good.
• 43:15
  Speaker 9: They're my favorite. Chop the head off, take the DUTs out,
• 43:18
  Speaker 9: fry them. Holes, you eat the bones, eat the fins.
• 43:21
  Speaker 9: Some people keep them eight for like Togue and Pike.
• 43:25
  Speaker 9: But it's just a really fun way to enjoy main winters.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: And tell us about the tactic you're using today to
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: try to catch these smelt.
• 43:33
  Speaker 9: So come on in in our fat and i'll show you.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Christy is walking us into this ice hut, and the
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: ice huts are so close that they're dang, you're touching
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: each other. Yeah.
• 43:48
  Speaker 9: So we've got raceways so holes in the ice here,
• 43:53
  Speaker 9: and then we've got jig boards, we've got jig coles,
• 43:57
  Speaker 9: and we've got the smelts we've caught so far there
• 44:02
  Speaker 9: and a couple heads are missing because my friends Kathy
• 44:08
  Speaker 9: and Jill here is tradition when you catch your first
• 44:10
  Speaker 9: ever one smelt head.
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: And Christy has a baby on her hip right now.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: That baby gets a limit of smelt as well, right,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Oh of.
• 44:22
  Speaker 9: Course, yeah, the limit is one gallons.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Oh that's uh, that's bigger than the child that she's holding.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: All right, Chrissy, you're one minute of fishing starts as
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: soon as your tackle hits the water.
• 44:34
  Speaker 7: All right, Well, there are already, so we.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Can she's Okay, well we're going.
• 44:37
  Speaker 9: To start, so we're watching for any little movement here or.
• 44:43
  Speaker 10: These jig poles.
• 44:45
  Speaker 9: Okay, we're about twenty seven feet of water.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: And are you fishing on the bottom or are these suspended?
• 44:54
  Speaker 9: Is going to change about today?
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, you are lower by about seventeen. You are twenty
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: seconds into your one minute? Christy, is there any bycatch
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: while you're doing this?
• 45:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 45:10
  Speaker 9: I caught a pod before, and I've caught a headlamp before.
• 45:16
  Speaker 9: You use pieces of sandworms as your bait, and then
• 45:19
  Speaker 9: you have thanks, so we will fight.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Cool, you've got fifteen seconds left.
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: Well, are you guys touching any.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Christy was a little pessimistic. She said this is better
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: done in the evening, so we uh we put her
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: in a tough spot. All right, Christy, your one minute
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: is up. We couldn't make it happen today, but thank
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: you for joining us and sharing us how a smelter
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: does it in main?
• 45:49
  Speaker 7: I hope you guys make it out to come smelting.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Sometimes that's that looks like a ton of fun. Thank you, Christy.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Thanks cal you ever have you ever eaten smelt?
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: Uh? No?
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I you know I had like a scandal Hoovian grandma
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: great grandma, and she was Hoovian. That's that's how grandma
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: said it. That would get like very upset over the
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: fact that I used smelt for pike bait here in Montana.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Very upset because she wanted to eat him. Yeah, okay,
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Scanda Hoovian? Is that? Is that a derogatory term you
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: think from your grandpa?
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: Well? I never took it that way, but it's possible.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: It's possible in Norwegian.
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: I don't take any offense.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Good, we're safe, all right. Our next segment is hot
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: tip Off. Jo, turn your head.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: What's that thing?
• 46:42
  Speaker 8: Don't use?
• 46:47
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's salty, ya, that's salty.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Well fill that trust. The next time we go to karaoke,
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: you're gonna sing some chapel roan. Can we can? I
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: count on you for that?
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: You have my word?
• 47:06
  Speaker 9: All right.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Hot tip off is where two listeners go head to
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: head with competing pieces of advice, and after we hear
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: each tip, we'll declare which one is hotter. If you
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: have a hot tip, take a one minute video on
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: your phone and email it to radio at the meadeater
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: dot com with the subject line hot tip off. All right,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: let's hear this week's hot tips Tiler Harm.
• 47:30
  Speaker 14: I'm Tyler Harm, and this is my hot tip off
• 47:33
  Speaker 14: for those of you who hunt out west. Keep an
• 47:37
  Speaker 14: old tent rain fly in your pack. It'll serve two purposes. One,
• 47:43
  Speaker 14: you can tie it between trees and use it as
• 47:46
  Speaker 14: a rain fly if you get caught out in the
• 47:48
  Speaker 14: rain without your rain gear.
• 47:50
  Speaker 11: Or you can lay it out.
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: When you're cutting up your meat.
• 47:57
  Speaker 14: Gives you a good clean staging area for your meat.
• 48:00
  Speaker 14: And it's a lighter weight than a tart and works
• 48:04
  Speaker 14: great for keeping that meat clean.
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: Crucial nice tailing.
• 48:08
  Speaker 15: Thunder Loon, Welcome to another hot tip off. My name
• 48:15
  Speaker 15: is Dylan, and I'm here to tell you how I
• 48:18
  Speaker 15: make a cheap, affordable, yeah, very effective set checking system.
• 48:23
  Speaker 15: You're only gonna need a few things. For those who
• 48:26
  Speaker 15: don't chew, you can always use, you know yourself an
• 48:29
  Speaker 15: altoys container or you know, a film canister. Those who
• 48:34
  Speaker 15: like to, you know, dabble with the old devil's dirt there,
• 48:38
  Speaker 15: but you'll big old lipper in upper decky. You take
• 48:42
  Speaker 15: one of these, you drill about a quarter inch hole
• 48:47
  Speaker 15: right in yonder Oh. If you want the picture, you
• 48:50
  Speaker 15: know you like the deer. Put it in the backside,
• 48:52
  Speaker 15: doesn't matter. After gathering this stuff, which is called milkweed,
• 48:57
  Speaker 15: which we all probably know, pull off the seat, twist
• 49:01
  Speaker 15: her up and try to make a long almost like
• 49:03
  Speaker 15: a length of rope with twisting. Okay, then you take it,
• 49:08
  Speaker 15: you pack it down in Then the more the merrier,
• 49:13
  Speaker 15: pack it right down in there. Okay. So if you
• 49:17
  Speaker 15: want to get it out of the hole and you
• 49:19
  Speaker 15: just take your drill beat, okay, you pull it up.
• 49:24
  Speaker 15: There's that down instead of using powder or wow checking
• 49:31
  Speaker 15: a flag. Yeah, this right in your pocket cost absolutely nothing.
• 49:35
  Speaker 15: It's a piece of something. We're gonna throw it in
• 49:37
  Speaker 15: the trash or recycling and yeah, you give me get
• 49:41
  Speaker 15: one with the cool pictures on it.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, he's got a few hands.
• 49:46
  Speaker 15: That's the hot tip off.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: And you can see these hot tips on our YouTube
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: video right now. All right, Calan Corey, do you like
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Dylan's hot tip about the homemade wndicator or Tyler's hot
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: tip about the tent rainfly man?
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: I love to recycle. They're both very smart.
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: And useful windicator hundred percent.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, nobody's wrong and right, it's just I mean,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: it's it's great.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: I agree with the Windicator. I also carry milkweed when
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: I'm white tail hunting. What I do differently than him, though,
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: which is worse, is I just like shove it in
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: a loose spot in my bag, and then if I
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: have one hundred little seeds from milkweed in there, you
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: see all one hundred of those. But he he has
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: those very tightly packed in that dip can that's real clean,
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: and he can just pull out little strands at a time.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: And he said he's pulling the seeds out too, which
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: is like, I'm not spreading milkweed.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Everywhere right right.
• 50:45
  Speaker 11: There.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: There was a company that had a very similar deal
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: and it was like polyester fibers, and I just hated it.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: I'm like, you're you literally made trash.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Or Cow's voting for the Windicator, Corey. What's your vote? Tyler?
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: I love your tip, but Dylan wins.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: I also like Tyler's tip. I would say that sounded
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: pretty dang loud to be hauling around in your backpack.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you stuff it in the bottom, sure, I never
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: know it's there.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But I love the idea of sliding your meat
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: on that thing instead of just whatever's convenient nearby. Now,
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Dylan is our winner, and he is going to get
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: a brand new treed up Gnome T shirt. You can
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: see it here on the camera. This is dropping today
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: in the Meat Eater store and they sell out very fast.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Last time I was told they sold out the day of.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: So Tyler is getting exclusive one of those, as well
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: as a Meat Eater trivia board game that has been
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: signed by the crew. We're going to get those in
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: the mail to you, Dylan. Yeah, so, ty I'm sorry
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: I said Tyler won. Dylan won. Dylan won the board
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: game and he won the T shirt. You're gonna hear
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: from Corey about how to get those sent to the mail.
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: Yep, really quick.
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: Just so we don't have any sort of technical hiccup
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: for you, Spencer, we had Dave on the line. He
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: was hanging out for a while, our next guest, and
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: I'm not seeing any video or audio from him. So Dave,
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: if you're if you're around, if you turn anything your
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: micro camera off, go ahead and turn that stuff back
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: on now. Otherwise we might just have to have him on.
• 52:13
  Speaker 10: Well.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: Can can we hear from the chat for a little
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: bit film and then yeah, maybe maybe in the meantime,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: we'll hear from David.
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we're live, folks, We're live. It's what it's all about.
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: It's what we're doing here. Cal I have a five
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: month old chocolate lab. Any advice on a training program,
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: I know it's kind of a big question, but maybe
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: someplace to start, just I.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Mean, it's just consistency, Like get a routine in place,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: and it all everything is structured off of sit, stay, come,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: you know, and for me really like sit should also
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: mean stay. So start basic, always return to the basics.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Don't add too much too fast. There's not a whole
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: lot of secret here, is just consistency and do not
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: over complicate things.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: You'll be You'll be great. Cool.
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: And this is another kind of big general question, but
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: maybe maybe some words of inspiration or someplace to start.
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: Free Crank says that he's been hunting turkey for four
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: years and he hasn't been able to seal the deal.
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: Any advice. He's located in Western Pa.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: Man, keep at it. I've been there four years, not
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: tagging out. Then the next year we'll buy him.
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, do your.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Due diligence so you know you're hunting good areas. And
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: then as my buddy Jim, who's like the most turkey
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: killing son of a gun I know, he says, kill
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: him with your ass, Frank the free crank.
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, sit and call commit see what happens.
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you might be able to answer this one.
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: This is from Harrison.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Cal.
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: Do you still have your own podcast?
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: And what GPS collar do you use for snort things?
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: I've been running Garman.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Like a track caller like you use for hounds, or
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: like real lanky point and dogs, which you know is
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: definitely overkill for a lab, but I just like the data.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: It's pretty fascinating to me how much a working dog
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: can move. So and then yes, Cal's week interview. It's
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: the col of the wild Feed these day. It's a
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: little bit of a rebrand. But yeah, tons of stuff
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: happening right now in the world of conservation and the legislation.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: So give her a listen. Thank you, Phil.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Are you seeing Dave in the weight room at all?
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: I am not.
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: I saw that he tried to hot back in, but
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: it said they were still having trouble connecting to us.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Let's give the camp, let's get answer a few more
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: questions and if he's not there in a few minutes,
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: we'll just send the show.
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:43
  Speaker 11: Sure.
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: Keep sending those questions in guys, Trav says, Hey, guys,
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: someone wants to hunt and collect firewood on some property
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: I own. I'm fine with it, but wondering if I
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: should have him to sign a contract or a waiver
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: or something. Check with your state a lot of states.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: If you provide i'd a free public access, the state's
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: liability will cover We'll cover you. But yeah, i'd you know,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: I'd definitely do a little due diligence. And obviously if
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: they're knocking trees down, that's a little more severe than
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: if they're just picking stuff up off the ground.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: I have knocked on hundreds of doors, Trav asking for
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: hunting permission. I've never had anyone ask me to sign
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: a contract or a waiver, but I wouldn't scoff at
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: it if they did. It totally makes sense, especially if
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: they're a stranger to you, like I am to most
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: of these people. I'm actually surprised it hasn't happened at
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: this point. I think it's National Deer Association provides a
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: contract that would cover you. I believe they have one.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Maybe for when you're leasing a property, and for one
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: when you're just like hunting on private land. So go
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: check out the National Deer Association. They might be able
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: to help you out and fill It looks like our
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: guest Dave is now in the chat, so I think
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: we're going to do that interview and then call it
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: a show.
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: Sounds good, all right?
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Joining us on the line last is the founder of
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: the Lost Apple Project, David ben Scotter. David and his
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: network of apple detectives have found thirty varieties of apples
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: that were previously lost. David, Welcome to the show.
• 56:18
  Speaker 11: Hi, thank you, thank you for letting me be here.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: First thing, tell us about the Lost Apple Project.
• 56:25
  Speaker 11: Okay, yeah, the Lost Apple Project began about ten years
• 56:30
  Speaker 11: ago and kind of by accident. I'm retired law enforcement
• 56:34
  Speaker 11: and I was taken care of a disabled neighbor's orchard.
• 56:40
  Speaker 11: And one day she came and asked me what could
• 56:46
  Speaker 11: I go on pick some apples for She lived on
• 56:49
  Speaker 11: her family's property and they had been on the properties
• 56:53
  Speaker 11: since before nineteen fifteen. And so I grabbed a buck,
• 56:58
  Speaker 11: and I grabbed a ladder, it over to her orchard,
• 57:01
  Speaker 11: came back ten minutes later. I said, I can't pick
• 57:03
  Speaker 11: a single apple. Those trees haven't been pruned, you know,
• 57:07
  Speaker 11: probably fifty years, maybe more. And I said, but I
• 57:11
  Speaker 11: do know how to prune apple trees. So I'll this
• 57:15
  Speaker 11: this winter, when they're dormant, I'll go prune the apple trees.
• 57:19
  Speaker 11: And I said, within two three years, you'll have lots
• 57:21
  Speaker 11: of apples. So that winter we get quite a bit
• 57:26
  Speaker 11: of snow here. We're butted right up against Idaho and
• 57:30
  Speaker 11: about two hundred miles from the Canadian border. And I
• 57:33
  Speaker 11: was probably on a winter day, and I was thinking,
• 57:35
  Speaker 11: you know, those apples are not going to be the
• 57:37
  Speaker 11: same kind of apples that I go and eat today.
• 57:40
  Speaker 11: And so I called her up and I said, I
• 57:42
  Speaker 11: was just curious, you know, do you know what's growing
• 57:44
  Speaker 11: up there?
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: And she remembered, should come back in a sec.
• 57:50
  Speaker 11: One apple, yelder's first apple that you eat during the
• 57:55
  Speaker 11: summer at ripens in July. And she didn't know any
• 57:57
  Speaker 11: of the other apples. So she called her brother. He
• 58:00
  Speaker 11: remember that there was four trees at the very top
• 58:04
  Speaker 11: of the orchard. They were called a Wealthy which just
• 58:07
  Speaker 11: happened to be the first bread apple tree in America.
• 58:12
  Speaker 11: And it was bred in Wisconsint because it was such
• 58:15
  Speaker 11: cold temperatures up there, they couldn't get any apples to live.
• 58:20
  Speaker 11: Wealthy was a wonderful apple and it solved that problem.
• 58:24
  Speaker 11: And I got did the biggest mistake of my life.
• 58:27
  Speaker 11: I got on the internet and I started typing in,
• 58:31
  Speaker 11: you know, apple for our area and stuff like that,
• 58:34
  Speaker 11: and I was just.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: Fastened tough connection for Davey Washington.
• 58:41
  Speaker 11: Everybody knows that Washington grows the most apples in the
• 58:45
  Speaker 11: United States, but those are all along the Columbia River
• 58:49
  Speaker 11: and the tributaries of the Columbia River where they can
• 58:51
  Speaker 11: irrigate the orchards, and they've got really hot summer days,
• 58:55
  Speaker 11: cool nights. We're over in eastern Washington, where it's rolling hills.
• 59:00
  Speaker 11: Nothing is irrigated, but we do have deep soils and
• 59:04
  Speaker 11: a lot of ravines and things like that. And so,
• 59:09
  Speaker 11: to make a long story short, I just started researching.
• 59:12
  Speaker 11: I found out that there was a book by a
• 59:15
  Speaker 11: fell a boy the name Elite Calhoun called Old Southern Apples.
• 59:18
  Speaker 11: And this book listed the first half of the book
• 59:21
  Speaker 11: was all old Southern apples that still exist today, and
• 59:24
  Speaker 11: the last half of the book were extinct Old Southern apples,
• 59:29
  Speaker 11: and that was the first time I even knew there
• 59:31
  Speaker 11: was any such a thing as extinct apples.
• 59:34
  Speaker 10: And just so.
• 59:36
  Speaker 11: Excuse me, it just so happens that there have been
• 59:39
  Speaker 11: about seventeen thousand apples that originated in the United States
• 59:46
  Speaker 11: and Canada, and fell a by the name of Dan
• 59:49
  Speaker 11: Bussy just wrote a book about that. I think it
• 59:51
  Speaker 11: came out about five six years ago, listing all seventeen
• 59:55
  Speaker 11: thousand apples there and whatever is known about it. Those
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 11: seventeen thousand apples, only five thousand of those apples exist today.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 11: And so anyway, I started looking at the list of apples,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 11: and then I also was kind of curious about a famous,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 11: at least locally famous fellow. He was a nursery then
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 11: about I lived near Spoke.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: Spoke Anne.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 11: He was saying, can Washington, Miles, Sydney, Colfax, Washington, which
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 11: is really close to Washington State University in Pullman, Washington.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 11: And I was reading old newspapers about him and apples
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 11: that he had introduced and things like that. And I
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 11: was reading there was a little article about county fairs.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 11: This was back in the early nineteen hundreds. I thought, well,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 11: that's interesting. They're listing the county fair winners. And I
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 11: started looking at that. I immediately knew that I was
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 11: onto something that was important. And the reason for that
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 11: was they listed every apple that was entered in the fair.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 11: So I thought, if they do this over a course
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 11: of let's say ten years, I will know pretty much
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 11: what was growing. And this happened to be Whitman County,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 11: Washington in the early nineteen hundreds. I started writing the
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 11: names down to these apples. Turns out about I beliast
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 11: four of the apples that were entered in the county
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 11: fair were listed in Lee Calhoun's book as extinct apples.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 11: And I thought, oh gosh, you know this is I'm
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 11: the only person that knows this. You know, there's nobody here.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 11: There are other apple hunters around the United States. There's
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 11: John Bunker up in Maine. There's Tom Brown in North Carolina.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 11: Lee Calhoun he was in North Carolina. But if you
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 11: happen to notice that all those people lived on the
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 11: East coast, I had no idea why. Figured there must
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 11: be some some reason why that nobody ever hunted apples
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 11: out west, but there must be a logical explanation for it.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 11: But I thought, you know what, I'm going to just
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 11: try a little bit to find one of the apples.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 11: And that apple that I was looking for is the Wallbridge.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 11: And the Wallbridge was entered by six different people in
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 11: Whitman County in between nineteen hundred and nineteen ten. So
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 11: I called some apple identification experts that I knew who
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 11: were over in Oregon, and I said, it would it
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 11: be okay if I sent you, like, you know, three
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 11: four or five bags of apples and you could see
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 11: if they're the Wallbridge apple. And they said, yeah, go
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 11: right ahead. And I chose the Wallbridge and not only
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 11: because it was entered more times than any other apple
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 11: in the fair, but also because it was rather distinct looking.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 11: It was a red apple with very crimson stripes on
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 11: the apple. So this was I believe this is about
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 11: two thousand and thirteen. And I started looking around Women County,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 11: which again seventy miles south of me. I went through
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 11: a little town of Colefax, which had three nurseries. In
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 11: that town, I had found a little catalogs of the
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 11: apples that they grew, and nurseries nearby that grew apples.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 11: Wallbridge again, it was very popular. I found a few trees.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 11: Ended up finding I believe three or four trees with
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 11: apples that were red with very crimson striping on them,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 11: and they looked like to me somebody who doesn't I
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 11: still can't identify apples worth beans, but I thought that
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 11: these might be the lost Wallbridge apple. Put them all
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 11: in a box, was getting ready to ship it off,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 11: and I happened to drive by a water pump station
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 11: in Colefax, Washington, and hanging over this water pump station
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 11: was the weirdest apple I've ever seen was an apple
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 11: that had corner to it they collar ridges, but I
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 11: thought it was just a really strange looking apple, And
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 11: so I picked some of those apples too, stuck them
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 11: in a plastic bag they had. Uh the experts, I
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 11: want you to send them like six or seven apples
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 11: that you picked them, where they were from. All these
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 11: are important things. They sent those apples off. To make
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 11: a long story short, all the Wallbridge apples were not Walbridge.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 11: And uh, that's still kind of our white whale. We're
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 11: still looking so still haven't found it. However, what's that
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 11: still haven't found it? Still have not found that apple.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 11: But the other apple happened to turn out to be
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 11: the yellow. Let's see, it's the fall Geniting, and the
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 11: Fall Geniting was the first lost apple we found, and
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 11: uh just got us off, got us off to a
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 11: good start.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: And what's the the strangest place that you found one
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: of these thirty lost apple varieties?
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 11: Well, the strangest place was an apple closest to where
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 11: I live. I always thought that these apples were going
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 11: to be in at least a few counties away from me,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 11: And then I knew about this apple tree. I had
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 11: gone hunting, and I knew this was one of my
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 11: favorite places to hunt because there was an old apple
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 11: tree right next to a swamp. And although that apple
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 11: tree was probably one hundred and thirty years old, it
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 11: was in really good shape. The apples were wonderful. I
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 11: actually have one of the apples here and this this
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 11: was determined to be the Shackleford, and the Shackleford was
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 11: one of the most popular apples in the late eighteen
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 11: hundreds early nineteen hundreds. Fortunately, I think probably the reason
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 11: it became lost was it was just a red apple,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 11: nothing remarkable about it, but it was It's an excellent apple,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 11: and actually I think it's one of my top three apples,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 11: and uh, I think it actually could compete to be
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 11: a grocery store apple today, a commercial variety. I don't
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 11: think it's as good as oh apples like Crimson Crisp
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 11: or Honey Crisp or or some of those, but I
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 11: think some of the other apple.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: Dave, what what is the best tasting lost apple that
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: you found?
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 11: Well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm I wish washy, I
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 11: can't tell you that, but I've got three for a favorites.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 11: There's that one, the Shackleford, and another one's called the
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 11: gold Ridge, and finally the last one is called Kitty
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 11: and this is a little Kittagesky. And again this would
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 11: not make a very good commercial variety today because it's
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 11: too small. I think it's Stark Brothers has a an
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 11: apple that they advertise as a lunch box apple. It's
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 11: a small apple called a pixie crunch. This is about
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 11: the size of a pixie crunch and it could go
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 11: and if you had a child in school, you stick
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 11: that in their lunch. But commercially, I don't think it
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 11: could ever make it. But it has a wonderful taste
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 11: to do it, and it was it was from from
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 11: the South and it's just a wonderful apple.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: Now, how can listeners help with the lost apple project?
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: And what should they do if they think they know
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: about a lost apple tree?
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 11: Well, I can tell you a few things. First of all,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 11: if you live in Oregon, Washington, or Idaho, get a
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 11: hold of me and I'll give you some information about
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 11: that in a minute, and I will I will get
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 11: your apples to our apple identification experts. Now, if you're
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 11: not in Oregon, Idaho, or Washington, there's another thing that
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 11: we can do, and we we're working with Washington State
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  Speaker 11: University and they're doing it an apple DNA project And
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  Speaker 11: if you contact me, I will send you, however many
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  Speaker 11: little tubes you want. And DNA from an apple tree
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  Speaker 11: is actually not obtained from the apple itself. It's from
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  Speaker 11: a leaf of the tree. So you don't have to
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  Speaker 11: wait till fall to do this, you know, in in
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  Speaker 11: May or June, when the tree is fully leafed out.
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  Speaker 11: I'll send you instructions on how to take a leaf
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  Speaker 11: and put it in this tube and mail it to us.
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  Speaker 11: And Washington State University has over three thousand apple cultivars
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  Speaker 11: in their database and we've had success. I would say
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  Speaker 11: about fifty percent success rate and identifying apples. That way,
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  Speaker 11: patient experts who use the basically fifty different characteristics of
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  Speaker 11: an apple, including how long the stem is, what shape
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  Speaker 11: the seed is, all the things that I'm totally unable
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  Speaker 11: to do, and that they can do. That's how we
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  Speaker 11: send local apples to at least the first stage, and
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  Speaker 11: then if they can't identify the apples, then we move
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  Speaker 11: on to the DNA testing.
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  Speaker 2: Also now, you can learn more about David's story and
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  Speaker 2: apple hunting in his new book called Lost Apples, The
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  Speaker 2: Search for Rare and Heritage Apples in the Pacific Northwest
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  Speaker 2: right now on kokbooks dot com. David, thanks for joining us.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, that was awesome.
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  Speaker 11: Yes can I can? I just men sure one thing?
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  Speaker 11: If they look under Whitman County Historical Society, we're under
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  Speaker 11: the Whitman County Historical Society. You can donate to our
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  Speaker 11: cause and if you have any questions, you can also
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  Speaker 11: reach me at D D. B. E. MS twenty three
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  Speaker 11: at gmail dot com.
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  Speaker 2: All right, good luck with your apple hunting this year.
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  Speaker 2: Have a good one, David, Thank you, Thanks Dave, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Phil, I think we're gonna skip the chat
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  Speaker 2: that's left unless there's anything really pressing since we're running
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  Speaker 2: over on time.
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  Speaker 5: You know, yeah, nothing super newsy or pressing.
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  Speaker 11: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, next week, The Meat Eater Movie Club returns with
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: a review of the nineteen eighty eight family film The Bear.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: You can stream it on Prime to b Roku, YouTube TV,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: or peacock watch it before the show if you want
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: to participate in the discussion. Also, Chester will be performing
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: at the Pheasants for Ever in Quails Forever Concert for
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  Speaker 2: Conservation in Kansas City next Thursday, March sixth, Col's going
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  Speaker 2: to be there too, right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, Actually, starting that Wednesday in DeSoto, Kansas, we
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  Speaker 1: got a Kansas BHA slash North American Grouse Partnership event
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  Speaker 1: that's open to the public and will be great. It's
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  Speaker 1: called BHA at the Barn. It's just open forum, learn
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  Speaker 1: about a bunch of stuff that's going on in the organization.
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  Speaker 1: And then yeah, Wednesday Concert for Conservation where Cheddar's gonna
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  Speaker 1: kick things off for Muscadine Bloodline.
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  Speaker 2: Now in the script here it says Thursday is a
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  Speaker 2: concert Thursday the sixth, right, yep, yeah, Thursday six.
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  Speaker 11: And then.
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  Speaker 1: Friday there's the Bird dog Parade that kicks off pheasant
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  Speaker 1: Fest and Quails Forever there and which is pretty pretty
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  Speaker 1: dark cute.
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  Speaker 2: Will Snort be there?
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  Speaker 4: Snort's been there two years in a row now, so
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  Speaker 4: she's taking a break.
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  Speaker 11: And then.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll have a first light booth and and awesome,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: just an awesome conservation event like PFQF does a really
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: really really good job of getting people up to snuff
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  Speaker 1: on what they need to know for all the habitat
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: programs and farm bill and and stuff that may not
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: sound super sexy and fun, but they make it fun.
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  Speaker 1: And and if you need a little little lube to
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: get that going, there's a bar on every corner in
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: the on the show floor.
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  Speaker 4: And then Sunday we have.
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  Speaker 1: An awesome fundraiser lunch to kind of wrap things up
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: with North American Grouse Partnership and we're talking about the
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: lesser Prairie Chicken and the fact that the North American
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: grasslands are the most threatened ecosystem in North America.
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  Speaker 2: So happening in Kansas City next week. Last question, what's
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  Speaker 2: your favorite apple cal are you? Are you loyal to
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  Speaker 2: any variety when you're in the grocery door.
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  Speaker 4: I have not personally purchased an apple in many, many years.
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  Speaker 2: How do you acquire your apples? You just don't eat apples?
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  Speaker 4: No, I mean, I'm like, not a big sugar guy.
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  Speaker 2: What's your favorite apple?
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  Speaker 3: I'm a big apple snob, like I don't let my
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  Speaker 3: wife buy apples.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me more. Tell are you agreeing? No?
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  Speaker 5: Because Adrian is. And if I anything other than a
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  Speaker 5: Honey Crisp, she gets.
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  Speaker 2: Let's make this show ten more minutes. What's your favorite apple?
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  Speaker 3: Then, Corey, Yeah, I'll second the Honey Crisp or pink
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  Speaker 3: Lady's my two favorites. I'm going through the whole bushel
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  Speaker 3: and feeling everyone.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm that guy.
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  Speaker 3: Who will go into a grocery store with apples on
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  Speaker 3: my grocery list and I'll walk out if I can't
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  Speaker 3: find the right one.
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  Speaker 2: Buddy, I'm with man. I worked the produce section of
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  Speaker 2: Walmart my freshman year of college. I didn't really care
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  Speaker 2: for making minimum wage, so I got my money back
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  Speaker 2: by grazing on apples in the freezer back there, and
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  Speaker 2: I really became like a small ya for apples at
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  Speaker 2: that point. I feel like you could a hand in one.
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  Speaker 2: I could have taken it. By and been like, that's
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  Speaker 2: a jazz apple. Now that one, there's a gala apple.
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  Speaker 2: That one's a honey crisp. My favorite to the pink
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  Speaker 2: lady in the honey crisp that you can't go wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I especially love honey crisp because they come from the
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  Speaker 2: University of Minnesota. They were created there.
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  Speaker 5: I have you know that, Phil Oh, Yeah, I got
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  Speaker 5: Adrians from there, so that might that might have to
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  Speaker 5: do with her her honey crisp.
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  Speaker 7: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like an honorary Minnesota and an honorary Colorado
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  Speaker 2: as well as a Montana and in style Dakota. So
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  Speaker 2: I claimed four states too. I never lived in. But
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  Speaker 2: that's that's one thing I really like about honey crisp apples,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: as they came from the u of Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And one of my favorite celebrity sidings was we went
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: mini golfing out outside of the Twin Cities. It was
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: that's really cool courses and then in the in the
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 5: middle of the woods and we drove by the farm
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  Speaker 5: where the honey crisp apple was was you know, invented?
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  Speaker 4: It seems like a weird word.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: What's the what what would be the word to use?
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  Speaker 2: And the like they collect a patent on it, so
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  Speaker 2: it is like something.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, And they had signs everywhere, like home on the
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  Speaker 5: Honey Crisp Apple, and it was I felt like, yeah
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  Speaker 5: it was. I was starstruck.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, how about them apples? All right, we'll see you
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  Speaker 2: back here next weeks. More Apple talk. I'm needy to rate.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for lasting