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- 0:09The growing body of evidence shows
- 0:11that doulas can improve health
- 0:13outcomes, especially for black
- 0:14women, who have a maternal mortality
- 0:16rate two and a half times higher
- 0:18than white women in Texas.
- 0:20Birth workers want their services to
- 0:21be accessible and understood by
- 0:23more folks.
- 0:24We've got more about them.
- 0:26And the Texas Dream Act gave
- 0:27undocumented Texans a chance to
- 0:29attend college at the cost of
- 0:30in-state tuition.
- 0:32Now Texas public universities are
- 0:33progressing through their first full
- 0:35academic semester under new tuition
- 0:37rules. We're going to hear from one
- 0:38UT Austin student about the
- 0:40adjustment and the future coming
- 0:42up on today's show.
- 0:44The Austin Signal is a production
- 0:45of KUT News, hosted by
- 0:48Jerry Quijano.
- 0:49And we're going to wrap up a busy
- 0:51weekend of sports across the
- 0:53Austin area.
- 0:54We've got those stories and more
- 0:55coming up next here on Austin
- 0:58Signal.
- 1:08Howdy out there, this is Austin
- 1:10Signal. Thank you for tuning in.
- 1:12It is the last Monday of February,
- 1:142026.
- 1:16I'm your host, Jerry Kikano.
- 1:18Five days remain to vote early in
- 1:20the upcoming March primaries here in
- 1:22Texas.
- 1:22Republicans and Democrats across the
- 1:24state are deciding their party's
- 1:26nominees for this fall's general
- 1:27election.
- 1:28Several statewide races are on the
- 1:30ballot and voters are also choosing
- 1:32their congressional district
- 1:33candidates.
- 1:34And depending on where you live and
- 1:36your party affiliation, your ballot
- 1:38might also include one of two
- 1:40Travis County Commissioner races.
- 1:42We have voter guides with more
- 1:44information.
- 1:44Those are over at KUT.org.
- 1:49Austin is becoming a thriving hub
- 1:51for doulas, advocates who
- 1:53provide support for women during
- 1:55pregnancy and childbirth, and
- 1:57they're playing an important role in
- 1:58statewide efforts to maternal
- 2:00mortality rates.
- 2:02KUT's Olivia Aldridge spoke with
- 2:04Central Texas doulas about their
- 2:06efforts to advocate for the
- 2:07profession and the women that
- 2:09they care for.
- 2:14When Josephine Adegbate had her
- 2:16second baby last spring,
- 2:18all the stars seemed to align.
- 2:20At a birthing center in Maynor, she
- 2:21labored in a tub of water as music
- 2:23played, and just when it was time
- 2:25to push, a Yoruba gospel song
- 2:27began to play, one of her Nigerian
- 2:30grandmother's favorites.
- 2:31Fuck it
- 2:34And I was like, oh my gosh,
- 2:37like, what are the odds?
- 2:39While the timing may have been
- 2:40perfect, the playlist was planned
- 2:42with this day in mind.
- 2:43By Josephine's side the whole time,
- 2:45supporting her with water, towels,
- 2:47massages, and making sure the music
- 2:49kept rolling was her doula,
- 2:51Alicia Rivera Clemente.
- 2:53I was happy to be there and happy
- 2:55to see that she was so
- 2:57comfortable and felt safe
- 2:59and you know she was able to
- 3:01enjoy and really reflect on
- 3:03what she just did like the powerful
- 3:05thing that she just did.
- 3:08It wasn't like this during
- 3:09Josephine's first experience giving
- 3:11birth just a couple of years
- 3:12earlier.
- 3:13She ended up having an emergency
- 3:15C-section.
- 3:16She felt pressured and scared.
- 3:18I didn't know like the recovery.
- 3:20I didn't like the way I was
- 3:22treated in the hospital.
- 3:23I felt like
- 3:24I didn't really have a voice.
- 3:25That's why, when Josephine became
- 3:27pregnant again, she sought out a
- 3:28doula.
- 3:29She says having a judgment-free
- 3:31person to talk her through her fears
- 3:33and questions made a big difference.
- 3:35There is no shame and it's like,
- 3:38that's like your person.
- 3:39It's like an extension of you.
- 3:42Josephine's experience aligns with
- 3:44a growing body of research that
- 3:45shows doulas are associated with
- 3:47better birth outcomes.
- 3:49That includes reduced rates of
- 3:51premature labor and fewer
- 3:52C-sections, which can be
- 3:54lifesaving but come with increased
- 3:56risks when performed unnecessarily.
- 3:59These benefits have been especially
- 4:00noted for Black women, who have
- 4:02a maternal mortality rate two and
- 4:04a half times higher than white women
- 4:06in Texas.
- 4:07But doula services aren't
- 4:09always accessible for everyone.
- 4:11They've rarely been covered by
- 4:12insurance, meaning they've often
- 4:14been limited to people who can pay.
- 4:16But in the Austin area, there's a
- 4:18network of organizations that offer
- 4:20free services for black and brown
- 4:22women who could benefit from
- 4:23medulla.
- 4:24It's called the Maternal Health
- 4:25Equity Collaborative.
- 4:27Alicia worked with Josephine through
- 4:29one of the organizations in the
- 4:30group.
- 4:31You know, if one organization
- 4:32doesn't have the capacity, we're not
- 4:34just telling you no,
- 4:36or saying like, you know,
- 4:38better luck next time, we can refer
- 4:40you to somewhere else, and then it's
- 4:41not just that referral
- 4:43process of, hey, we just gave you
- 4:46the website, we're getting you
- 4:48in touch with somebody.
- 4:49Directly.
- 4:50It's an example of the kind of
- 4:51coalition building that doula
- 4:53leaders in the state want to see
- 4:54more of throughout Texas.
- 4:56Deanna von Bart held is vice
- 4:58president of the Texas Doula
- 4:59Association.
- 5:01She thinks Austin's proximity to the
- 5:02capital has bolstered the local
- 5:04doula network and motivated them
- 5:06to take an advocacy focused approach
- 5:08to their work.
- 5:09You have a freeing environment
- 5:12to provide the services that you
- 5:13need.
- 5:14You have local representatives
- 5:17who support and have a better
- 5:19understanding of the doula work.
- 5:21We would want to see what's
- 5:23happening in Travis County
- 5:24multiplied across
- 5:26The state.
- 5:27The Texas Doula Association recently
- 5:29released the results of a first of
- 5:31its kind survey of the Texas doula
- 5:33workforce, an attempt to get a
- 5:35picture of a profession that largely
- 5:37operates outside of the traditional
- 5:39medical establishment, with no
- 5:41one single credentialing agency and
- 5:43many training pathways.
- 5:45We wanted to reflect the reality
- 5:47of our community-based work,
- 5:49which includes, I'll say, informal
- 5:51care, unpaid labor,
- 5:54cultural responsiveness, and
- 5:56of course the emotional and
- 5:58financial toll of supporting
- 6:00families in a under-resourced
- 6:02system.
- 6:03The survey confirmed that Austin is
- 6:05a hotspot for birth workers,
- 6:07with almost 30% of doulas who
- 6:09responded saying they worked in
- 6:10Travis County.
- 6:12Rural doulas were more isolated,
- 6:14and indicated they could use more
- 6:15support.
- 6:16Across the board, doulas said they
- 6:18still encounter a lack of
- 6:19understanding from the public about
- 6:21what their job is and why
- 6:23it's important.
- 6:24Von Barthold and the Texas Doula
- 6:26Association want to make sure state
- 6:28policymakers are I'm educated about
- 6:30this too.
- 6:31Especially as several bills related
- 6:33to doula services have been filed in
- 6:35the past two legislative sessions.
- 6:37Having to.
- 6:37Sit across a policymaker that's
- 6:40going to say, okay, I'm gonna vote
- 6:42on this bill, but I still don't know
- 6:44what you do, is alarming.
- 6:46The push to cover more doula
- 6:47services through Medicaid has gained
- 6:49momentum in recent years.
- 6:51So far, bills in Texas that would
- 6:53have introduced a Medicaid pilot
- 6:55program have stalled in committee.
- 6:57But other states have already made
- 6:58it happen.
- 6:59Around half of U.S.
- 7:01States now offer reimbursement
- 7:02through their Medicaid programs.
- 7:04And for the next Texas legislative
- 7:06session, the Texas Doula Association
- 7:08is hoping to get more individual
- 7:09doulas involved in advocacy.
- 7:12Dula Alicia Rivera-Clemente
- 7:14says that's something she's
- 7:15interested in.
- 7:16I'd like to get more involved
- 7:19and become more knowledgeable
- 7:21about how these things can
- 7:23change and why they're
- 7:25remaining the same.
- 7:27The compensation to me doesn't
- 7:28equate to the work that's being done
- 7:30and the impact that's been made.
- 7:32So I'd to see change there for sure.
- 7:34But in the meantime, Alicia loves
- 7:36the work she's doing, and that work
- 7:38has been motivating for Josephine
- 7:40too.
- 7:40She wants other women to have
- 7:42positive experiences with
- 7:43childbirth.
- 7:44It was so good, it felt
- 7:46like I could do
- 7:48it. I knew what I was doing, I had
- 7:50support.
- 7:51I felt heard, I felt seen.
- 7:54And that's really what every woman
- 7:56deserves.
- 7:57As Josephine parents her two little
- 7:59girls. She's also back in school,
- 8:02hoping to work towards becoming a
- 8:03labor and delivery nurse.
- 8:05I'm Olivia Aldridge in Austin.
- 8:10Oh
- 8:15For over two decades, the Texas
- 8:17DREAM Act gave undocumented Texans
- 8:19a chance to attend college at the
- 8:21cost of in-state tuition.
- 8:23Now Texas public universities are in
- 8:25their first full semester under new
- 8:27tuition rules, which are at the
- 8:28center of a federal court fight.
- 8:31A lower court order siding with the
- 8:32Justice Department challenging the
- 8:34DREAM act is under appeal right now
- 8:35at the Fifth Circuit.
- 8:37And on campuses like UT Austin,
- 8:39this legal battle isn't just some
- 8:41legal abstraction.
- 8:42Spring tuition bills have already
- 8:44gone out under the new rules, and
- 8:46students here in Austin and across
- 8:48the state are adjusting in real
- 8:49time.
- 8:50Marco Julian Gonzalez is a
- 8:52dual-degree double honors junior
- 8:53here at UT.
- 8:55He's also a member of Sigma Lambda
- 8:57Beta, a Latino-founded fraternity
- 8:59whose chapter has stepped into this
- 9:01legal fight.
- 9:02Gonzalez stopped by the Texas
- 9:04Standard to speak with host David
- 9:06Brown.
- 9:07For listeners who may not have
- 9:08followed every turn of this case,
- 9:09I'm not going to ask you to try to
- 9:11rebuild that, but can you briefly
- 9:12explain in real
- 9:14terms, everyday terms, what's
- 9:16changed this semester and what
- 9:18students are seeing in their tuition
- 9:19bill?
- 9:20Yeah. And I guess I'll pick
- 9:22up in what we're not
- 9:24seeing is, uh, thousands
- 9:26and thousands of students all over
- 9:27the state of Texas attending
- 9:29these end state public universities
- 9:31that they're admitted to because
- 9:32they can't afford the cost of
- 9:34tuition.
- 9:35Uh, what we have seen is,
- 9:37uh, some of the people that we know,
- 9:38uh their tuition bills have spiked
- 9:40from some, I
- 9:42don't know, $7,000 for
- 9:44a semester to about
- 9:46$22,000 a
- 9:48semester.
- 9:49Uh, seemingly overnight.
- 9:52You've described this as a
- 9:54rare moment where student
- 9:55organizations move
- 9:57from legislative advocacy to
- 9:59state rulemaking to now here
- 10:01you are in a live federal appeal.
- 10:04What did that journey look like from
- 10:06your vantage point as a member of
- 10:08this fraternity joining into
- 10:10this
- 10:11huge legal fight?
- 10:12Well, I guess to say is we know many
- 10:14people who are affected by the
- 10:16end of the Texas Dream Act.
- 10:18And I guess not the end because it's
- 10:20still in litigation, but right now
- 10:21it's not an enforcement, right?
- 10:24And 57,000 students
- 10:26across the state of Texas,
- 10:28many of these students feel that
- 10:30they can't speak and share their own
- 10:31testimonies because of the
- 10:34predicament that they're in.
- 10:36So we feel the need to step in and
- 10:38be able to speak for them, for the
- 10:39people that now.
- 10:41For the people that are being
- 10:42called, I would say,
- 10:44unjust labels, right?
- 10:46These are members of Trinde Agua
- 10:48or MS 13.
- 10:49These are students that study in the
- 10:51same libraries, go to the same
- 10:53dining hall, go to
- 10:55same rec here at UT
- 10:57Austin alongside of us.
- 10:58We know who they are.
- 11:00We know they aren't.
- 11:02Here we have the situation in
- 11:04the court's Fifth Circuit appeal
- 11:06still pending.
- 11:07Can you give me an example of how
- 11:09this is affecting the lives
- 11:11of some of your fellow
- 11:13students? Yeah.
- 11:13Time.
- 11:14I can give a testimonial, for
- 11:17example, I have a friend who,
- 11:19you know, she dreams of being a
- 11:20doctor, right? She was brought here
- 11:22when she was really young, went to
- 11:24our Texas public schools,
- 11:26graduated from Texas high schools,
- 11:28remembers the Alamo, remembers
- 11:30everything about Texas,
- 11:32and they got here to University
- 11:34of Texas at Austin.
- 11:36This was supposed to be their senior
- 11:38year.
- 11:39They were expecting to apply to,
- 11:41you now, different medical schools
- 11:43to be a doctor because they want to
- 11:44help save lives in the state of
- 11:46Texas. And because of this,
- 11:48she has all of her requirements for
- 11:50her degree met except
- 11:52for some semester or two.
- 11:54And that semester or two is charging
- 11:56her about $22,000,
- 11:59right?
- 12:00She and her family weren't expecting
- 12:02that type of price, right?
- 12:04And so now she's had to unenroll,
- 12:07put her educational career
- 12:09on pause.
- 12:10Until we can see the outcome of this
- 12:12litigation.
- 12:13For me and my fraternity, it's not
- 12:15about politics, it's now about
- 12:16party.
- 12:17For us it's about the people, the
- 12:19people that we know in our lives who
- 12:20are affected.
- 12:22Marco, I know you mentioned
- 12:24specifically that this isn't a
- 12:25political thing.
- 12:26This is about the impact on
- 12:29others. And yet here we are
- 12:30in a very important
- 12:33election season.
- 12:35Do you imagine that there will be
- 12:37any political implication as
- 12:39a result of these changes or
- 12:41not so much?
- 12:43What do you think?
- 12:44To be honest with you, I never asked
- 12:46that question.
- 12:47It kind of goes back to as a, I
- 12:48mean, we never expected to be where
- 12:50we are today, right?
- 12:51We never expected testifying
- 12:54from the legislature, the state
- 12:56executive committees.
- 12:57We never expect it to be named the
- 12:59Mise Curiae and the federal
- 13:00circuit court.
- 13:02It just so happens to be, you know,
- 13:04one step along the way, here
- 13:06we are.
- 13:07We feel like we're here to defend
- 13:09meritocracy in America.
- 13:11We feel the political implications
- 13:12Is that Texas Pride itself?
- 13:14On the free enterprise system.
- 13:17And these students did everything
- 13:18that the state asked them to do.
- 13:20Got good grades, studied
- 13:22for the SAT, ACT,
- 13:25to get to where they are today
- 13:27because they're hardworking.
- 13:29They dream to be an American and
- 13:30they dream to a Texas
- 13:33citizen. And that's part of the
- 13:34implications of the Texas Dream Act.
- 13:36Is in order to be eligible, you have
- 13:37to commit yourself in sworn
- 13:39affidavit to pursue
- 13:41lawful.
- 13:43Status. These people want to be
- 13:45Americans.
- 13:46They're already tax contributing and
- 13:47so I feel the biggest implication is
- 13:49just that, you know a loss
- 13:51to the meritocracy in
- 13:53our state of Texas.
- 13:56That was Marco Julian Gonzalez.
- 13:58He is a junior at UT Austin and
- 14:01a member of a Latino-founded
- 14:02fraternity whose chapter has stepped
- 14:04into a battle over in-state
- 14:06tuition costs.
- 14:07We're going to have more in today's
- 14:09podcast, show notes and at kut.org
- 14:12slash signal.
- 14:14And coming up, we're going have some
- 14:15black Austin music history for you
- 14:17and a recap of the busy sports
- 14:19weekend that was here in Austin.
- 14:21That's after this break.
- 14:23This is Austin signal.
- 14:31This is Austin Signal, welcome
- 14:33back.
- 14:34It is the final week of February
- 14:35and all month long host Myles
- 14:37Bloxson has been chronicling Austin
- 14:39Music History for Black
- 14:41History Month.
- 14:42Today we're gonna hear about an East
- 14:44Austin club that became a hub for
- 14:46live music, dancing and
- 14:48Austin's black community.
- 14:55Charlie's Playhouse opened around
- 14:571958 under the ownership
- 14:59of East Austin businessman Ernest
- 15:01Charlie Gilden, located at
- 15:031206 East 11th Street in the
- 15:05historically black cultural
- 15:06district.
- 15:07The building had previously housed
- 15:09the show bar and the black cat.
- 15:11During segregation, the club became
- 15:13a central gathering place for
- 15:14Austin's black community, offering
- 15:16live music, dancing and nightlife
- 15:18in a city that actually limited
- 15:20where black residents could
- 15:21socialize.
- 15:22At a time when black musicians were
- 15:24restricted in where they could
- 15:25perform, Charlie's became part of
- 15:27the Chitlin circuit, the network of
- 15:29venues that actually welcomed black
- 15:30performers across the country.
- 15:33Throughout the 1960s,
- 15:35Charlie's hosted live bands five
- 15:37nights a week.
- 15:38Austin native and local legend blues
- 15:40boy Hubbard helped define the club
- 15:42sound, alongside groups like the
- 15:44Jets.
- 15:45National R&B acts also made their
- 15:47way through Charlie's doors,
- 15:48including Hank Ballard and the
- 15:50Midnighters. Famously known for
- 15:51recording the original version of
- 15:53the twist.
- 15:54Come on baby,
- 15:57let's do it!
- 16:11But in the mid-late 1960s,
- 16:14Austin itself was beginning to
- 16:16shift.
- 16:17While limited school integration had
- 16:19started in the 1950s,
- 16:21widespread desegregation of schools
- 16:23and businesses did not take hold
- 16:25into the mid 1960s.
- 16:27And full integration would be forced
- 16:29by federal intervention around
- 16:301970s.
- 16:32As those changes moved through the
- 16:34capital city, White University
- 16:36of Texas students began showing up
- 16:37at Charlie's.
- 16:38Gradually shifting the dynamic of
- 16:40the space long rooted in black
- 16:41community life.
- 16:43And when formerly segregated venues
- 16:44began opening their doors to black
- 16:46patrons, Donald Duck Jennings,
- 16:48a former performer at Charlie's and
- 16:50member of the Jets put it this way,
- 16:52all the customers and the patrons,
- 16:54they left and went across the
- 16:55freeway. And by the 70s,
- 16:57shifting demographics and changing
- 16:59audience patterns were reshaping
- 17:01East Austin.
- 17:02In 1971, a cornerstone
- 17:04of the black community and Austin's
- 17:05first public high school for black
- 17:07students. LC Anderson High
- 17:09School was shut down during
- 17:11court-ordered integration.
- 17:13As integration continued to unfold
- 17:14across the city, the city's
- 17:16entertainment landscape also
- 17:17shifted, and Charlie's Playhouse
- 17:19closed its doors for good.
- 17:24The building was eventually
- 17:25demolished, and today a four-story
- 17:27condo built in 2009
- 17:29stands where the iconic East Side
- 17:31venue once filled the night with
- 17:33music and blues.
- 17:35Even though Charlie's Playhouse no
- 17:37longer stands at 1206 East
- 17:3911th Street, its imprint on
- 17:41Austin's music history is forever
- 17:43woven into the city's story,
- 17:45a lasting reminder of when East
- 17:47Austin was the heart of black
- 17:49business, culture,
- 17:51and blues!
- 18:00For more on Charlie's Playhouse,
- 18:01visit kutx.org.
- 18:03I'm Miles Bloxson.
- 18:05This is Austin Signo.
- 18:08And she said that she's my
- 18:10first class lover
- 18:12Well, it was a busy sports weekend
- 18:14here in Austin with some
- 18:16professional soccer, basketball,
- 18:18and some UT action as well.
- 18:20Here to help us recap some of it is
- 18:22KUT's program director and co-host
- 18:24of the Vamos Verde podcast,
- 18:26Jimmy Moss. Howdy, Jimmy.
- 18:28Howdy, and it was a busy weekend.
- 18:30It's kind of a busy time in sports
- 18:31in town.
- 18:32This is a big city now, so.
- 18:33It's a fun time to be a sports
- 18:35enjoyer for sure because
- 18:37it's the final week of February
- 18:39which means we're ramping up into
- 18:40March and March Madness.
- 18:42So let's start with the Texas
- 18:43women's basketball team.
- 18:45How did they do yesterday?
- 18:46Well, they continued their pursuit
- 18:47of a top seed in the NCAA tournament
- 18:49They they more than
- 18:51doubled Mississippi State score
- 18:52yesterday at the Moody Center 92 to
- 18:5442 They are still ranked fourth
- 18:56in the newest AP basketball
- 18:58poll. They host 24th
- 19:00ranked, Georgia Thursday here
- 19:02in town and speaking of
- 19:04Georgia the Bulldogs ended the
- 19:06men's team's Five-game win
- 19:08streak and threw a bit of a wrench
- 19:09in the plans for the horns to coast
- 19:11into the NCAA tournament
- 19:14They beat Texas Saturday in Athens.
- 19:16And now bracketology is of course,
- 19:19this imaginary inexact
- 19:21pseudoscience, but that's
- 19:23not gonna stop ESPN and others from
- 19:25paying someone to come up with these
- 19:26numbers.
- 19:26It's fun to be a fake bracket
- 19:28ology in that
- 19:29in that spirit.
- 19:30Going into the weekend, the
- 19:31Longhorns had an 80% chance of
- 19:33making the tournament.
- 19:34Now, after that loss in Athens,
- 19:36they have a 70% chance and
- 19:38they have a tough game this
- 19:40Wednesday at Moody Center against
- 19:42Florida.
- 19:43Okay, well speaking of the Moody
- 19:44Center, that Texas game took place
- 19:46at one o'clock in the afternoon
- 19:48yesterday.
- 19:48There was a professional basketball
- 19:51game the night before and it was a
- 19:52busy weekend for the Spurs here in
- 19:54Austin. You were out there.
- 19:56What was it?
- 19:56The I-35 series is
- 19:59seemingly one of, it's a super
- 20:01popular stop for the Spurs.
- 20:03They come here and they pack the
- 20:04house more so than they fill
- 20:06the upper rafters of the
- 20:08Moody Center, which they're not
- 20:09typical for long-horn basketball
- 20:11games. Anyway, both Spurs posted
- 20:12double-digit wins against the
- 20:14Suns on Thursday and the Kings on
- 20:17Saturday, so Spurs
- 20:19are kind of rolling right now.
- 20:21They really are. They're heading into
- 20:22the playoffs on a high note.
- 20:24See if they can maintain that
- 20:26through the end of March and into
- 20:28the NBA playoff
- 20:29Yeah, they're on an eight game
- 20:30winning streak and tonight they're
- 20:32going against the Detroit Pistons
- 20:33who have the best record in the
- 20:35Eastern conference So should be a
- 20:36fun game. That's starting at 6
- 20:38o'clock So yeah, there was
- 20:40a lot going on but
- 20:42the big go ahead
- 20:43No, staying on campus though, real
- 20:45quick. Defending national champion
- 20:47softball team.
- 20:48Went out to California and did what?
- 20:50Defending National Champion should
- 20:51do. They went 5-0 in a tournament
- 20:53out there.
- 20:54And they beat the likes of Stanford
- 20:56and Arizona.
- 20:58And they had a good weekend for
- 20:59themselves. They've now won 12 games
- 21:00in a row.
- 21:01And the Longhorn men's baseball team
- 21:03swept Michigan State over the
- 21:05weekend. Big name opponent there.
- 21:07So they're keeping their season
- 21:09off to a good start.
- 21:11And also pro volleyball.
- 21:12Love, Austin.
- 21:13They split a series loop,
- 21:16beating Madison and then losing to
- 21:18Atlanta.
- 21:19So, and we haven't even gotten to
- 21:20the marquee event because as
- 21:22listeners know of almost Saturday,
- 21:25the Austin F C began their
- 21:27season over the weekend.
- 21:28That's right. Q2 stadium.
- 21:29And, uh, while, you know,
- 21:31it is, uh.
- 21:33They drew two, two against
- 21:35Minnesota and there's some, some
- 21:37draws that are feel like wins,
- 21:39some that feel like losses and.
- 21:41Minnesota did tie the score,
- 21:44like, the last minute of regulation
- 21:45time,
- 21:48they,
- 21:50I think most fans feel
- 21:52fairly optimistic.
- 21:53There was offense, there was offense
- 21:55generated by Mirto
- 21:57Zuni and Robert Taylor, who had
- 21:59tough seasons last season, and
- 22:01the fans let them know about it.
- 22:03So I think there are moments
- 22:05from takeaways from Saturday
- 22:07that kind of keep most Austin
- 22:09fans optimistic.
- 22:09I think Minnesota was it.
- 22:11Playoff team last year who knows
- 22:12what they'll be this year, but you
- 22:13know this reasonably good start
- 22:15of offense for Austin FC
- 22:17Last week we had your co-host Juan
- 22:19Diego Garcia on the show and
- 22:21he mentioned Mirto Uzuni
- 22:23as a guy who maybe might have
- 22:25he was keeping his eye out on this
- 22:26guy especially with the signing of
- 22:28Facundo Torres.
- 22:30Like you said some draws and not all
- 22:31draws are equal Austin FC did
- 22:33put up two goals in this
- 22:35one.
- 22:36Does that make you feel a
- 22:38little bit better about their
- 22:39chances this year to put more goals
- 22:41on the scoreboard?
- 22:42There was strong build-up play
- 22:43throughout possession.
- 22:45Like, Minnesota was, at least last
- 22:47season, a quality opponent.
- 22:49There's no reason to expect them not
- 22:50to be this season.
- 22:52It was the return of Josh
- 22:54Wolfe to this, he's
- 22:56an assistant coach at Minnesota.
- 22:58Oh, I didn't realize that.
- 22:59Yeah, so it was, you know, there
- 23:00were little tiny storylines
- 23:01throughout, but I think overall
- 23:03there's room for optimism for
- 23:06Austin FC fans.
- 23:07And that, they will, they
- 23:09have another home game this weekend.
- 23:11And that's another busy weekend
- 23:12ahead for us here in Austin.
- 23:15NASCAR is back in town at Circuit
- 23:17of the Americas.
- 23:18And the ATX Open, the Women's Tennis
- 23:20Association event, is happening.
- 23:22And that is taking off
- 23:24Venus Williams, Tennis Great Venus
- 23:26Williams and Peyton Stearns,
- 23:28the ex-Longhorn, they'll be playing
- 23:29tomorrow.
- 23:30All right, lots happening, as
- 23:32we said. It's a busy time
- 23:33for sports fans.
- 23:34Lots to enjoy out there.
- 23:35That is KUT program director
- 23:38Jimmy Moss. Jimmy, thanks for being
- 23:39on the show. Thank you.
- 23:40And thank you out there for spending
- 23:42some time with us on this Monday.
- 23:44Special thanks to Renee Chavez and
- 23:46Casey Cheek for their help with
- 23:48today's show.
- 23:49I'm your host, Jerry Kehannel.
- 23:50We will be back with you tomorrow.
- 23:52Talk then.