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- 0:00Coin Live, your number one source for the peaceful Bitcoin
- 0:02revolution. Rumors have been circulating
- 0:04that a major U.S. bank has been secretly offering Bitcoin to
- 0:08their private clients while their CEO has been publicly
- 0:11denouncing Bitcoin. Like always what we say on this
- 0:15show, let's pay attention to to what they're doing and not what
- 0:18they're saying. Are these rumors true?
- 0:20We'll find out. Or what if I told you that eight
- 0:23that three massive household name banks in the US that
- 0:27control over 8.6 trillion dollars assets under management
- 0:32have already been quietly buying Bitcoin and selling Bitcoin
- 0:35exposure to their clients. Today we're going to be exposing
- 0:39why the major U.S. banks are already in Bitcoin.
- 0:41We're going to address these rumors that have been blowing up
- 0:44on Twitter and why this upcoming Bitcoin bull run that's expected
- 0:49in 2025 could be wildly different than the last cycles.
- 0:53But before we get into the discussion on one of my Co hosts
- 0:56on stage, of course I'm talking about the legendary Optimus
- 0:59Fields. What is it that I'm talking
- 1:02about? Well, the Twitter has been going
- 1:06absolutely crazy. There was this there.
- 1:09There was this breaking news by going LFG saying big breaking,
- 1:16big breaking, major U.S. bank goes big on Bitcoin.
- 1:20JP Morgan announced plans to offer an actively managed
- 1:25Bitcoin fund to its private wealth clients.
- 1:28The problem is that once you look into this stuff, there is
- 1:33no source confirming this. There's absolutely no source
- 1:39confirming that JP Morgan has been offering this to their
- 1:43private clients. However, I also did a little bit
- 1:47of digging. JP Morgan has been buying
- 1:50exposure. It's a Bitcoin, However.
- 1:52Check out this article from Investopedia.
- 1:55JP Morgan disclosed investment holdings totaling 731,000 and
- 2:00Black Rocks Bitcoin ETF, Fidelity's ETF and Grayscale's
- 2:05ETF, as well as Wells Fargo. Wells Fargo has started to allow
- 2:11their brokers to sell the Bitcoin ETF to their clients as
- 2:17well as Morgan Stanley and also Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley
- 2:22took stakes in US spot Bitcoin ETFs in Q2.
- 2:27So if you combine the total assets under management of those
- 2:30four banks, it wasn't three banks, it was 4 banks.
- 2:33That's $8.6 trillion under management.
- 2:36Let's read some of the Reuters article.
- 2:38Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley purchased a total of more than
- 2:42six $100 million in Bitcoin ETFs during the second quarter,
- 2:47regulatory filing showed on Wednesday.
- 2:50The two banks joined a group of hedge funds and financial
- 2:52advisors that have waded into the products, which began
- 2:55trading in January 2024. Goldman Sachs and it's said in
- 3:00its quarterly disclosure to the SEC, known as AF as a 13F filing
- 3:05that it had acquired about $418 million in several of the
- 3:11recently launched ETFs tied to the price of spot Bitcoin.
- 3:18So major U.S. banks, wealth management banks are are now
- 3:24exposed to Bitcoin. So even if this rumor turns out
- 3:28to be total BS from Bitcoin LFG because I couldn't find any
- 3:35sources backing it up, it is true that Wells Fargo, JP, JP
- 3:40Morgan, Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs are all all have
- 3:46exposure to Bitcoin and some of those banks are even selling it
- 3:51to their clients as well the ETF products.
- 3:54What's quite interesting to me though, Opti is this JP Morgan
- 3:58aspect. Why is it quite interesting to
- 4:01me? Well, JP Morgan's CEO is Jamie
- 4:04Dimon and Jamie Dimon has said some interesting things about
- 4:07Bitcoin in the past. Let's check it out.
- 4:12If you mean crypto like Bitcoin, I've always said it's a fraud.
- 4:16So no hope for it. Well, if it's if they think
- 4:19they're a currency, there's no hope for it.
- 4:21It's a Ponzi scheme. It's a public, decentralized.
- 4:23I'm going to read it again. JP Morgan disclosed investments
- 4:28totaling $731,000 in the BlackRock ETF, Bitwise ETF and
- 4:35Fidelity's ETF and Grayscale's Bitcoin Trust with the majority
- 4:40in the BlackRock. So I mean, did Jamie Dimon just
- 4:44admit to investing in a Ponzi? So it goes back to what I was
- 4:49saying in the beginning, ladies and gentlemen, don't pay
- 4:51attention to what they say. Pay attention to what they are
- 4:57doing. And the fact is that major
- 4:59household named banks in the United States and wealth
- 5:03management banks are all acquiring massive amounts of
- 5:07Bitcoin and they're also selling it to their clients as well.
- 5:11Despite what Jamie Dimon wants you to believe that Bitcoin and
- 5:16is the Ponzi scheme, I mean, eventually everyone bends the
- 5:19knee. Sailor initially was skeptical
- 5:22about Bitcoin. Larry Fink five years ago was
- 5:24saying that Bitcoin was an index of money laundering.
- 5:28You know, now he's saying that Bitcoin is a non sovereign
- 5:32alternative to Fiat currencies, right?
- 5:35So eventually everyone bends and then bends the knee to the king.
- 5:39And of course, that is because of Bitcoin superior monetary
- 5:43incentives. Opti, what are your thoughts on
- 5:46this, man? I mean, like the projection, the
- 5:49hypocrisy, the like the hubris, the ego.
- 5:54I think it was Max Keiser that originally said that Bitcoin is
- 5:58an ego test. It's a humility test, you know,
- 6:01So like people like Peter Schiff, people like Jamie Dimon
- 6:05that feel like, you know, they control the financial world and
- 6:08then all of a sudden Bitcoin comes in and, you know, they're
- 6:11like, I'm new to Bitcoin. I'm here to fix it.
- 6:13But they can't really fix it. They have to get in line like
- 6:16everybody else and pay the price that they deserve.
- 6:20You know, I feel like that could be quite humbling to people that
- 6:23have reached those heights of wealth and power.
- 6:27Opti, what are your thoughts? Well, I think everyone knows my
- 6:31thoughts. Usually if you hang around here
- 6:33long enough, you know how what I think about central bankers or
- 6:36bankers like Jamie Dimon and the, however you want to call
- 6:39them, powerful financial elites out there.
- 6:42They're obviously incentivized to flood Bitcoin.
- 6:45I'm convinced that Jamie Dimon is a Bitcoin holder.
- 6:50Jamie Dimon isn't as dumb as everyone likes to paint him out
- 6:52in Mt. Twitter it it, it's he.
- 6:55They are it. It's.
- 6:56No, I know. I'm, I'm talking about, I'm
- 6:58talking about him personally. I think Jamie Dimon had been
- 7:00buying Bitcoin personally for a long time.
- 7:03He understands what's going on. He's a smart guy.
- 7:07He obviously knows the game being played and he holds
- 7:10Bitcoin. And not only that, JP Morgan is
- 7:14an authorized participant to the Black Rock ETF.
- 7:17So like they can say whatever they want publicly, but they are
- 7:22incentivize to make sure that Bitcoin does well.
- 7:25And we talked about this constantly.
- 7:27The central bankers, bankers like Jamie Dimon and of course
- 7:30people in politics like Elizabeth Warren, etcetera.
- 7:33They are incentivized to tell you not to buy Bitcoin because
- 7:36they know the game. Like we know the game.
- 7:38It is all a Fiat scam. The real Ponzi scheme here is
- 7:42the Fiat dollar. So they can't come out here and
- 7:44be like, yeah, don't buy Bitcoin, buy Bitcoin because
- 7:47it's going to be the pain on the Fiat Ponzi scheme.
- 7:52So they, they know what game is, is being played.
- 7:56And I call it the billionaire FUD playbook.
- 7:58It's very simple. They publicly shame Bitcoin.
- 8:01They publicly FUD Bitcoin. They stack their bags privately.
- 8:04And then once they have a good position, they come out and be
- 8:07like, look, I love Bitcoin. Bitcoin is great.
- 8:09You know, Larry Fink did the same thing he was.
- 8:11He's probably the biggest, biggest example of this FUD
- 8:15Bitcoin forever. Finally, secretly roll out the
- 8:18BlackRock ETF, get the approval of the regulators and the
- 8:21politicians and stuff, and then be like, I love Bitcoin.
- 8:24And now he's out here shilling Bitcoin with all of his
- 8:27institutional asset managers just shilling it, writing
- 8:30bullish Bitcoin reports. It's, it's not very, I'm, I'm
- 8:37blanking on the word right now, but it, it's very obvious to
- 8:40anyone that understands the game right now what is going on.
- 8:43They're not incentivized to pump Bitcoin because that would
- 8:46expose the scam of Fiat money. But now that they have these
- 8:50Bitcoin products, they're more than incentivized to start
- 8:54pumping them. And remember the clip we played
- 8:56yesterday of Gary Gensler? Everyone was kind of, you know,
- 8:59doing the fire Gary Gensler stuff and I, I find it very
- 9:03interesting that the main take away from that clip yesterday
- 9:06was that Gary Ganz is like, look, we have these ETF
- 9:08products, guys just like buy Bitcoin through our regulated
- 9:12products and don't take it into self custody.
- 9:14So they're incentivized to push you through these regulated
- 9:18mechanisms of buying Bitcoin so that they can try to control the
- 9:22on and off ramps. It's a very obvious playbook
- 9:25once you understand what's going on.
- 9:26And This is why we constantly say the real move here, the real
- 9:30revolution, is taking custody of your Bitcoin.
- 9:33No longer do we need to go to these middle men.
- 9:35No longer do we even need to care what the suits think.
- 9:37You just need to save in Bitcoin, get Bitcoin however you
- 9:41can and hold it in your own custody.
- 9:44This is how you win. And so like, yeah, there's so
- 9:47many examples showing that JP Morgan is buying Bitcoin.
- 9:51They have a lot of Bitcoin products.
- 9:53And personally, I think Jamie Dimon holds a lot of Bitcoin.
- 9:56He's he's he's a smart dude and he's been learning and reading
- 10:00about Bitcoin for a long time, but publicly he can't say that.
- 10:04And so he's incentivized to publicly continue to be like,
- 10:07don't talk to me about Bitcoin, bro.
- 10:09I don't care. Remember what was it?
- 10:11Was it the World Economic Forum? No, at Davos this year, he's
- 10:14like, this is the last time I'm talking about Bitcoin.
- 10:17And then like a month later, he's like, crypto's a scam.
- 10:19And he's just like, all right, bro, like keep keep talking.
- 10:22I. Just find it hilarious because
- 10:24it's like, you know, one thing he's saying like this is a Ponzi
- 10:28scheme, but his own bank is, you know, has exposure to Bitcoin.
- 10:34Like, I find that hilarious, you know, and, and now you have the
- 10:37wealth management banks coming in like Goldman buying $400
- 10:41million of exposure to the ETFs, even though, you know, they're
- 10:45not necessarily offering that to their clients yet.
- 10:48So it's just, it's hilarious. And it goes back to what we've
- 10:52been saying about politicians and about bankers, Like don't
- 10:56pay attention to what the bankers are doing.
- 10:58Pay attention to, sorry, don't pay attention to what the
- 11:01bankers are saying saying pay attention to what the bankers
- 11:04are doing. And Bitcoin has this like really
- 11:07interesting mechanism of kind of exposing incentives, and it gave
- 11:11me some original thought this morning and in regards to how
- 11:15governments and banks view Bitcoin.
- 11:18So Bitcoin is treated as money when it suits regulatory needs,
- 11:23but it's dismissed as money when it clashes with political
- 11:27objective objectives. And we're seeing that time and
- 11:30time again as it relates to central bankers, as it relates
- 11:34to bankers in general, as it relates to governments, right?
- 11:38It's it's like it's crazy because they want to benefit
- 11:41from number go up, but they don't want the freedom go up.
- 11:44They don't want the people to benefit from it before they
- 11:48benefit themselves, right? So it's just, it's crazy how
- 11:51Bitcoin does these things. Anyways, guys, we have a exactly
- 11:55we are saying trust us, bro. Anyways, guys, it's going to be
- 11:59a hell of a show. We have a lot to unpack today.
- 12:02Breaking news, there was a major lawsuit uncovered yesterday in
- 12:07regards to a major Bitcoin company Swan Bitcoin sues ex
- 12:13staff members over. I'll get into the details.
- 12:16It's quite interesting. Ross Stevens from NY Dig makes
- 12:21the case. He released an entire report
- 12:24called Bitcoins protected under the 1st Amendment, which is
- 12:28something that we wholeheartedly believe here at Simply Bitcoin
- 12:32because I think that money is a form of speech.
- 12:35And also I don't know if we'll have time to cover this today.
- 12:39Hopefully we will. Tornado Cash developer Roman
- 12:43Storm's criminal case will proceed to trial.
- 12:46They tried to get this case dismissed and it's setting a
- 12:49very dangerous precedent because at the end of the day, this
- 12:54developer, all he did was write code and a percentage of the
- 12:59people that used his software used it for illicit purposes.
- 13:03But why don't bankers go to jail when you know, criminals use
- 13:09bank the banking system to launder money?
- 13:13Why is it that only Bitcoin privacy developers and or
- 13:17Bitcoin developers or crypto developers, Why are they the
- 13:20ones that get the brunt of it right?
- 13:23It's kind of like rules for thee and not for me.
- 13:26Kind of reminds me of this whole Jamie Dimon thing where he's
- 13:29calling Bitcoin a Ponzi. Meanwhile his bank is buying
- 13:32Bitcoin. Anyways, guys, it's going to be
- 13:34a hell of a show. Stay tuned in.
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- 16:20At the time of recording we've we've had quite a little bit of
- 16:23a pump. The price of Bitcoin is $66,270
- 16:28sats per dollar 1509 block height 863,000 94 Realized
- 16:34monetary inflation 1.34% market capitalization 1.31 trillion
- 16:39Bitcoin versus gold market cap 7.09% money supply 19,759,452
- 16:47BTC percentage issued 94.09%. In the grand scheme of things,
- 16:54we are just getting started. Anyways, I do want to talk about
- 16:57this historic report released by NYNYDNY Dig and Ross Stevens.
- 17:04The name of the report is Bitcoins Protection under the
- 17:091st Amendment. I think the reason that this
- 17:12report is being written is there is going to be an inevitable
- 17:17clash between nation states wanting to retain their ability
- 17:23to create money for free, their monopoly on the issuance and the
- 17:27control of money and Bitcoin. And I think people are going to,
- 17:32there's going to be a very difficult discussion that's
- 17:35going to be had because governments get a tremendous
- 17:39amount of funding from their ability to print money.
- 17:44But all of a sudden, if their citizens have the ability to use
- 17:48Black Rock's own words, not mine, choose an alternative non
- 17:53sovereign monetary system, what are governments going to do to
- 17:58fund themselves? The long term effects of this is
- 18:02that it removes a major source of revenue for them.
- 18:06This is the part that they don't know.
- 18:07Admit most people in society don't know what money is.
- 18:12Most people in society believe that taxes fund the government.
- 18:17Most people in society don't understand, and I'm going to
- 18:20focus on the US government specifically because that's the
- 18:23one I'm the most knowledgeable about. the US government spent
- 18:26$1.7 trillion more than it collected in tax revenue last
- 18:30year. How did it do that?
- 18:33It did that because it was able to print the difference.
- 18:37So when you hear politicians saying stuff like tax the rich,
- 18:41increase taxes, the government doesn't have a tax collecting
- 18:45problem. The government has a spending
- 18:48problem and it will continue to have a spending problem as long
- 18:51as they have the ability to print money.
- 18:54And that is exactly what Bitcoin is all about.
- 18:57It's a peaceful and silent protest against the government's
- 19:01ability to do that. But there is going to be a clash
- 19:04because the government isn't going to want to let go of that
- 19:09privilege, let go of that power, let go of that privilege that
- 19:13that that they have abused, I might add.
- 19:16So anyways, I think that this is where, you know, these types of
- 19:20reports are so important. So Ross Stevens of NY Dig is
- 19:24making the case that Bitcoin is protected under the 1st
- 19:27Amendment. Obviously, I don't have the time
- 19:30to read you the entire report, so I'm going to focus on the
- 19:34introduction solely and then I'll put you I'll put this in
- 19:37the chat. So you guys could read the rest
- 19:38or Opti will. Here we go.
- 19:41Boom. Anyways, it goes on to say
- 19:44Bitcoin, a decentralized, free and open source digital letter.
- 19:48A digital Ledger has been used by millions of people around the
- 19:51world since its invention more than a decade ago.
- 19:54Launched by the synonymous Satoshi Nakamoto, Bitcoin
- 19:57empowers anyone with an Internet connection to transfer value and
- 20:01other information without the need for a centralized
- 20:04intermediary. This paper argues through
- 20:07extensive legal precedent that Bitcoin is speech and therefore
- 20:11protected by the 1st Amendment. Any regulations attempting to
- 20:15curtail Bitcoin therefore have clear constitutional
- 20:18implications rely entirely on constant communication among
- 20:23these participants to operate efficiently.
- 20:26Bitcoin is speech harness to transfer value, among other
- 20:29purposes. Bitcoin users broadcast
- 20:32transactions to all members of the network.
- 20:35Other Bitcoin participants, known as biners, compile and
- 20:38propagate those transactions, help reach consensus about
- 20:41Bitcoins Ledger, and add their own expressive content.
- 20:45Bitcoin participants also actively debate and signal
- 20:49support for changes to the the open source protocol.
- 20:52It goes on to say this is something that I have emphasized
- 20:55many times on simply Bitcoin. Bitcoin is also a political
- 21:02movement launched amidst the Great Recession.
- 21:05Bitcoin was designed to free individuals from the government
- 21:09monopoly over money. Indeed, the very first message
- 21:13recorded on Bitcoin contained a commentary on the failings of
- 21:17government, administrative, political and financial systems.
- 21:20Quote the Times Chancellor on the brink of the second bailout
- 21:24for bank. That was a message in the
- 21:25genesis block. Many Bitcoin devotees, including
- 21:29the author of this paper, regarded their continued use of
- 21:32Bitcoin as an endorsement of its founding ideological principles.
- 21:37To further those principles, Bitcoin adherence collectively
- 21:40maintain and enhance the Bitcoin protocol, plan conferences and
- 21:44engage in political advocacy. In recent years, Bitcoin is
- 21:48growing resistance from the very governmental authority is that
- 21:52the Bitcoin that advocates seek to deprive of their monetary
- 21:56monopolies. Some governments, including
- 21:58China and Venezuela, have banned Bitcoin or Bitcoin mining.
- 22:01In the United States, federal financial regulators have sought
- 22:05to stym Bitcoin in a variety of ways, while various state and
- 22:10local governments have focused on restricting Bitcoin mining.
- 22:13In 2022, for example, New York enacted A2 year memoratorium on
- 22:18a new or expanding Bitcoin mining facilities to certain
- 22:23carbon based energy. In taking such steps, regulators
- 22:27do not appear to have considered the 1st Amendment implications
- 22:31of targeting Bitcoin. They should.
- 22:33Bitcoin is a platform for communicating value and other
- 22:37information, including vast amounts of highly expressive
- 22:40content. Engaging with Bitcoin therefore
- 22:43involves speech protected by the 1st Amendment.
- 22:46For many. Moreover, using and mining
- 22:49Bitcoin also constitutes protected, expressive conduct
- 22:53because those activities are intended and and wildly
- 22:56understood to be a protest against government control and
- 23:00debasement of Fiat currencies. Participating in the Bitcoin
- 23:04network is also expressive, expressive associational
- 23:08activity, which likewise triggers First Amendment
- 23:12interest. So an incredible, incredible
- 23:15introduction. And I love how he put the
- 23:17Benjamin Franklin quote on the top.
- 23:20The security of property and the freedom of speech always go
- 23:23together. And in those countries where a
- 23:25man cannot call his tongue his own, he can scarce call anything
- 23:30else his own. Incredible, incredible.
- 23:33I highly recommend checking out the entire report.
- 23:36But some quick thoughts here in regarding in regards to this
- 23:41report. Like, yes, Bitcoin is speech.
- 23:43Yes, Bitcoin is a political movement.
- 23:45We've been making the case for that for a long time now.
- 23:48Bitcoin is a silent, it's a peaceful revolution.
- 23:54You are protesting and there's something that people have to
- 23:57wake up and understand. We did not sign up to be forced
- 24:05to use a money that steals from us.
- 24:08That is not part of the social contract.
- 24:11That is something that politicians are taking an
- 24:14advantage of, people that are not informed on that matter.
- 24:20You can make the case that taxes have been agreed upon on the
- 24:26social contract level. People have agreed on it.
- 24:30People might not like it, people, you can complain about
- 24:33the income tax, but the 16th Amendment was passed in 1913,
- 24:38coincidentally the same year that the Federal Reserve was
- 24:41established and people agreed that there was going to be an
- 24:45income tax. Now, politicians promised it was
- 24:47only going to be 1 to 3%. And then they increased it
- 24:50progressively over the years because that's what they do.
- 24:53But it's it's enshrined in law. People have not agreed upon the
- 24:59fact that money has to steal from you in order to function.
- 25:05And because of that, that is a weak point.
- 25:08That is a point that they have no explanation for.
- 25:12They can't justify it. They can't explain it away.
- 25:16So when you hear people asking Kamala Harris or Donald Trump,
- 25:21what are you going to do about groceries?
- 25:24What are you going to do about the cost of living?
- 25:28That's like asking the people that took you hostage when
- 25:32they're going to free you. Because it is government and
- 25:36government debasing the currency.
- 25:39Not, you know, the conflict in Ukraine, not the pandemic.
- 25:44It is literally government debasing the currency.
- 25:47That is the sole clause of inflation.
- 25:50It's not price gouging. It's not any of this.
- 25:52It's government debasing the currency, so Bitcoin is the
- 25:58ability to opt out of that entirely.
- 26:01And every single day that Bitcoin survives, it proves to
- 26:06the world that a currency can exist without inflation.
- 26:12And This is why Elizabeth Warren and other members that are not
- 26:16fans of Bitcoin are so staunchly against Bitcoin, because it's an
- 26:21idea. It's an idea whose time has
- 26:24come. It's an idea whose very first
- 26:28block is addressing the problem itself.
- 26:32And it's an idea that is better money.
- 26:37It's a better system than government money.
- 26:41So it becomes kind of like a pain in the ass for them in in
- 26:44a, in multiple different ways. And because it's decentralized
- 26:48in nature, they can't shut it down.
- 26:51And because they can't shut it down, they're forced to compete
- 26:55with it. And when you have a competition
- 26:58between a a currency that is inflationary and prone to
- 27:04censorship versus a currency that is deflationary and
- 27:09censorship resistant, that's only always going to end in one
- 27:15way that that revolving door, that door only goes in One
- 27:20Direction. I have never met someone in my
- 27:23entire life. I've been in this industry for
- 27:25eight years that has told me, Nico, I've gone to a Bitcoin
- 27:30standard. I like it, but I'm going back to
- 27:33Fiat. It's always a one.
- 27:35It's A1 directional door. So for us Bitcoiners, Bitcoin
- 27:41content creators, Bitcoin revolutionaries, and you are a
- 27:44revolutionary whether you realize it or not, because the
- 27:47revolution, all it requires is for you to buy Bitcoin, earn
- 27:52Bitcoin, mine Bitcoin and take that Bitcoin into self custody.
- 27:55And you're, you're revolting against the system just by doing
- 27:59that. You're saying, no, I don't want
- 28:00to partake in inflationary money.
- 28:04So they're going to try to gaslight, they're going to try
- 28:08to misrepresent, they're going to try to use very scary words
- 28:12like terrorism, money laundering, you know, financial
- 28:17stability, all of these things, everything that they can think
- 28:20of to justify their ability to keep their monopoly on the
- 28:30creation and the control of money.
- 28:33And I think this piece by Ross Stevens is preluding that it's
- 28:39getting in front of it. And it's basically saying, you
- 28:41know what? Nah, Bitcoin is speech.
- 28:44Money is speech. Bitcoin is protected by the 1st
- 28:48Amendment. He's trying to set the bar.
- 28:50He's going on offense instead of us always being on defense,
- 28:55right? So excellent, excellent case.
- 28:58I completely agree. And Opti, I mean, what, what's
- 29:02our, what's our motto, right? Simply Bitcoin.
- 29:05Tomorrow's Bitcoin news today. How long have we been saying
- 29:09that Bitcoin is inherently a political movement?
- 29:13For too long and we got way too much Flack for it too.
- 29:18But yeah, going back to the whole like Bitcoin of speech, it
- 29:23took me a little while to fully wrap my head around this because
- 29:27it's very obviously speech once you understand it.
- 29:30The crypto awards of the 90s very clearly shown and even at
- 29:34the highest levels proved that software is speech and it's
- 29:37protected under the 1st Amendment.
- 29:40And very clearly, guys, Bitcoin is just software.
- 29:42Like it's just code. It's ones and zeros.
- 29:44So in the 90s, it's been what, for long, as long as I've been
- 29:48alive, it has been proven that software is speech and that they
- 29:51can't clamp down on software because of the 1st Amendment.
- 29:55Obviously, the people in power will do whatever they can to try
- 29:57to circumvent that. But Bitcoin is very simply
- 30:01speech. It is code.
- 30:02Money is speech. We say it all the time.
- 30:04Nico, what do you always say if you can't speak freely?
- 30:08What do you, what makes you think that they're going to let
- 30:10you try to transact freely? It, it's been proven constantly
- 30:14that Bitcoin is speech. It should be protected under the
- 30:161st Amendment. And This is why you see a lot of
- 30:19regulators and a lot of, you know, politicians try to frame
- 30:22Bitcoin as something other than it is.
- 30:24And This is why even sometimes talking about Bitcoin as money
- 30:28is very dangerous. If we do get into that Tornado
- 30:30Cash news, it it really it if you if you categorize it as
- 30:34money, then they can try try to put it in a box and and try to,
- 30:40you know, smack a lot of these regulations and money laundering
- 30:43rules on top of Bitcoin. And of course they're going to
- 30:46try to kneecap Bitcoin as much as possible.
- 30:48But Bitcoin is speech. It's software.
- 30:50It's literally ones and zeros. You run it on your computer.
- 30:53It's very clearly protected under the 1st amendment.
- 30:57And we're not the only ones that have been saying this.
- 30:59You know, beauty on has been on that on that beat for a long
- 31:01time. A lot of other Bitcoiners have
- 31:03been saying this for a long time, but Bitcoin is very
- 31:07obviously also a political movement as well.
- 31:09When you understand how politics works, that basically all of
- 31:12politics is down for downstream from the money printer.
- 31:15This is why it's so important to get involved in and do what we
- 31:19can as Bitcoiners, not just to advocate for Bitcoin and number
- 31:22go up, but to advocate for everyone in whatever possibility
- 31:26and capability we have to get involved.
- 31:28Because again, look, we have the best money in the world and yes,
- 31:33we're going to accrue a lot of financial power and a lot of
- 31:36wealth with number go up. But that doesn't really mean
- 31:40much if we don't also try to grasp at the real power
- 31:44structures with it, which is the political power.
- 31:47This is why organization is super powerful.
- 31:49This is why I think the next movement that we'll see from
- 31:52Bitcoiners is, and actually we're seeing it right now, is
- 31:55getting politically involved. I know bit corners turn away.
- 31:58And then? Yeah, I I don't even know what I
- 32:01say the most more thing for us big corners to do is to get
- 32:04politically involved. And this is coming from someone
- 32:06that's had this apolitical, this is.
- 32:08The most powerful political movement the world has ever seen
- 32:12since the introduction of Marxism in the in the mid 19th
- 32:16century. I, I want you guys to comprehend
- 32:20what the implications of the separation of money and state
- 32:24are going to do for society as a whole.
- 32:28Think about it, separation of money and state, by definition,
- 32:31that is political. So eventually Bitcoin was going
- 32:35to come out of the shadows and it was going to be involved in
- 32:41the mainstream discourse. This is why you're seeing so
- 32:44much pushback. This is why we cover the tornado
- 32:47cash case. This is why we cover the samurai
- 32:49case. This is why we talk about Trump.
- 32:52This is why we talk about Kamala.
- 32:54This is where we are in bitcoins history, and this is what you
- 32:58guys have to understand. Now.
- 33:00The awesome part about all of this is that unlike the
- 33:03separation of church and state, which was not very peaceful.
- 33:08Take a look at the French Revolution.
- 33:10The the you know, the the red tear.
- 33:12We we was. It was horrific.
- 33:13A lot, very a lot of bad things happened.
- 33:16I'll just say that right, This is information narrative trench
- 33:20were from the battlegrounds of the Internet.
- 33:22So tweets count, memes count, videos count.
- 33:28This is about winning over the hearts and minds of individuals
- 33:31and asking them to opt out of the system.
- 33:34And you become a revolutionary not by pitting picking up a
- 33:38metaphorical rifle, but by literally just opting out of the
- 33:41system and taking your wealth into self custody.
- 33:45That's it. And if enough of us do it, if
- 33:47enough of the population does that, then that system cannot
- 33:52sustain itself. That's literally what it's
- 33:55about. That is what it's always been
- 33:57about. And Optia, I got to give us
- 33:59credit, bro. We did call it first.
- 34:01I'm I'm going to take credit for that.
- 34:04And also I want to add one more thing.
- 34:05We're not really builders, guys, you know, we're just talking
- 34:08heads here. But if you are a builder, the
- 34:10most important thing to be doing is shipping products so that
- 34:13these tools do get into the hands, as into as many people's
- 34:17hands as possible. That's the most important part
- 34:19about Bitcoin is having as many people as possible holding and
- 34:23using and saving Bitcoin. So if you're young and you have
- 34:26the itch to build something, you want to learn some skills,
- 34:29that's probably with this. If not, the first or second most
- 34:33important thing to be doing is shipping these products so that
- 34:368 billion people can eventually use Bitcoin. 100% All right,
- 34:40everybody, don't I understand every, everyone's hesitancy when
- 34:45politics are brought up and politicians are brought up.
- 34:48And the hesitancy you're feeling is because politics is very
- 34:54uncomfortable. It is the organization of power,
- 34:57right? All rules go out the window for
- 35:00a lot of people when it comes to politics.
- 35:02So people tend to shy away with it.
- 35:05But the question that I have for you guys is look at what's at
- 35:08stake. Do you want your children to
- 35:11live in a future of central bank digital currencies?
- 35:14Or do you want your children to live in a future of Bitcoin?
- 35:17The future of capitalism is Bitcoin, the future of communism
- 35:21is central bank digital currencies.
- 35:22And we have an option of which direction we want to head
- 35:28towards. Anyways, everybody, let's get to
- 35:30news. We have lots to cover
- 35:32specifically regarding the Tornado Cash.
- 35:34We have an update for you guys and it's implications on the
- 35:37peaceful revolution. Let's check it out.
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- 38:15with a little bit saying that before we get to the news of
- 38:19Tornado Cash, this was some major news that happened
- 38:22yesterday. The headline is swan Bitcoin
- 38:25sues ex staff over quote rain and Hellfire plan to steal
- 38:30mining business. Before I jump into this, I LED
- 38:35Swan's YouTube channel for a year.
- 38:36I worked at the company and I have friends that still work at
- 38:41the company. I have friends that don't work
- 38:42at the company. So I'm going to offer no
- 38:45commentary whatsoever. I'm just going to read the
- 38:47article itself. So let's get to it goes on to
- 38:51say Bitcoin. Financial services firm Swan
- 38:53Bitcoin has filed a lawsuit against several former employees
- 38:57from its mining arm, alleging they stole the firm's software
- 39:01code, resigned, and then use that code to kick start their
- 39:06own mining business. The ex staff supposedly founded
- 39:09quote counterfeit competitor firm Proton Management and
- 39:12convinced one of Swan's funding partners to cut ties with Swan
- 39:17and work with them instead. This was intended to, quote,
- 39:20irreparably harm Swan's ability to compete in the market.
- 39:24The quote is quote. They hatched a plan to steal
- 39:27Swan's mining business from the inside, usurp Swan's role and
- 39:32cut Swan out from the joint venture.
- 39:35They dubbed it Rain and Hellfire.
- 39:38Swan CEO Corey Clipson responded 132% year over year.
- 39:43Swan Financial Services revenue is up big.
- 39:46Been an awesome last 12 months of product launches.
- 39:49Mining has always been separate and segregated.
- 39:52Recent news does not affect our core business.
- 39:55All right, moving on to the Tornado Cash case, which is has
- 40:00more to do with the revolution that is happening.
- 40:03So the reason that this case was so important is this case
- 40:09resulted in the inevitable arrest of the Samurai
- 40:14developers. The reason that I believe they
- 40:16started with Tornado Cash is because Tornado Cash isn't
- 40:20wasn't a wildly a a popularly and widely used.
- 40:27Mixer or a privacy enhancing service.
- 40:32So what happened is they arrested the Tornado Cash
- 40:36developer. They set a precedent for the
- 40:38first time in U.S. history where the US Treasury sanctioned open
- 40:43source software. You see why this is going.
- 40:45You see why Ross Stevens is saying that Bitcoin is protected
- 40:48by the 1st Amendment. If they can sanction open source
- 40:51software, what is Bitcoin but not open source software, right?
- 40:55They can make the same argument that, hey, you know what?
- 40:58People are using Bitcoin to circumvent US sanction policy.
- 41:04They can make that argument, right?
- 41:05This is why these court cases are so important.
- 41:08Now here the timeline of events which we've covered diligently
- 41:12over the last year or so of this happening.
- 41:15By the way, they went after Tornado Cash.
- 41:19They arrested the developer. They set the precedent.
- 41:21Coin Center, which is a Bitcoin and crypto lobbying arm, sued
- 41:26that case. That case got dismissed.
- 41:30A month after that case got dismissed, guess what?
- 41:33They arrested the Samurai developer.
- 41:36And what they're trying to make the claim is that even though
- 41:40the vast majority of people that use Tornado Cash and were using
- 41:45Samurai were just seeking privacy, the two or three
- 41:50percent that were using it for illicit purposes, they're
- 41:55responsible. The developers are responsible.
- 41:58Now I want to show you guys compare and contrast the
- 42:02difference between how these institutions are treated, right?
- 42:07So these are open source developers that work for our
- 42:11industry. You could say about crypto.
- 42:14You know, we're Bitcoin only, right?
- 42:16We advocate for Bitcoin, but at the end of the day, if you want
- 42:19to buy, you know, doge like so be it.
- 42:22I'm, I'm not going to stop you. You can do whatever you want
- 42:24with your money. The crypto in the Bitcoin
- 42:28industry, you know, it is what it is, right?
- 42:32Look at how they're treated. Look at how we're treated and
- 42:36look at how they're treated. This is a Financial Times
- 42:40article that I that I referenced a couple days ago and look at
- 42:45the wording. So Yevgeny Progressen, he was
- 42:50the guy that was the leader of the Wagnar group.
- 42:55The Wagnar group was the mercenary group that the
- 42:59Russians used to invade Ukraine. So he was essentially a Russian
- 43:04warlord, which his plane, you know, coincidentally crashed
- 43:11after he had a fallout with, with Putin.
- 43:13I'll leave it at that. Right?
- 43:16And it was an accident supposedly.
- 43:17But anyways, check out the wording of this article.
- 43:21So this guy, this Russian warlord, secretly used JP Morgan
- 43:26and HSBC for Wagnar payments. And it goes on to say banks
- 43:31unwittingly handled transactions for companies in Africa
- 43:35controlled by deceased Russian warlord.
- 43:40What the fuck is the difference here?
- 43:43What's the difference? What's the difference?
- 43:48What? Why aren't the CEOs of HSBC and
- 43:53what was the other bank? JP Morgan.
- 43:57Jamie Diamonds bank. Why, why aren't they, you know,
- 44:02like what's going on there? Like why, why are they not being
- 44:06held responsible? I I don't understand that makes
- 44:10no sense. So they arrest us, but then they
- 44:15get fines. It makes no sense.
- 44:20Well, it does make sense if you start to view it from the way
- 44:26that we view it, which is why Ross Stevens called this a
- 44:29political movement. They see it differently because
- 44:35open source money is a fundamental threat to their
- 44:40monopoly on money. That's what it boils down to.
- 44:44It has nothing to do with laws, because if laws mattered, why
- 44:50didn't one banker, why didn't one significant banker go to
- 44:55jail for what happened in 2008? Not one.
- 45:01They got bailed out and they got bonuses that they didn't go to
- 45:06jail. Rules for thee, but not for me.
- 45:14So anyways, goes on to say Tornado Cash developer Roman
- 45:17Storm's criminal case will proceed to trial.
- 45:19New York judge orders The DOJ case against Tornado Cash
- 45:24developer Roman Storm will proceed to trial, a New York
- 45:26judge ruled during a telephonic hearing on Thursday.
- 45:31Quote, At this stage in the case, this court cannot simply
- 45:35accept Mr. Storm's narrative that he is being persecuted
- 45:38merely for writing code. If the jury ultimately accept
- 45:43this narrative, then it will acquit.
- 45:45But there's no basis for me to decide that as a matter of law.
- 45:49I'm going to read this one more time.
- 45:53Banks unwittingly handled transactions for companies in
- 45:56Africa controlled by deceased Russian warlord.
- 46:00I'm going to read the judge's case one more time.
- 46:03At this stage in the case, this court cannot simply accept Mr.
- 46:07Storm's narrative that he is being persecuted merely for
- 46:10writing code. So it's a double standard, isn't
- 46:12it? Anyways, here's some some more
- 46:15commentary from fellow Bitcoiners.
- 46:17Bitcoin is now illegal. Joe Carlosari goes on to say.
- 46:22Very disappointed ruling in the Tornado Cash case.
- 46:25The court explicitly rejected the First Amendment argument and
- 46:29found as a matter of law that the Bank Secrecy Act doesn't
- 46:33require control. Now, do you see why this report
- 46:38was written? This paper, the report Bitcoins
- 46:43Protection under the 1st Amendment, argues through
- 46:45extensive legal precedent that Bitcoin is speech and therefore
- 46:48protected by the 1st Amendment. So what they're doing is they're
- 46:53using this Tornado Cash case to set a precedent on open source
- 47:00developers and open source software so that eventually they
- 47:06can go after Bitcoin. And that's what happened with
- 47:10Samurai. And that's why Ross Stevens
- 47:13wrote the report. And that's where this is
- 47:16heading. That's what this is all about.
- 47:19This is the separation of money and state playing out for you
- 47:22guys in real time, right in right up in your face.
- 47:27Here's some more commentary. Tornado Cash needed a banking
- 47:30license. Samurai Wallet needed a banking
- 47:33license. WhatsApp, Apple X probably all
- 47:35needed licenses too. Well, HSBC and JP Morgan had
- 47:42licenses. It didn't really do anything.
- 47:45Doesn't make any sense. Correct?
- 47:47That's why the SEC has proposed a rule to formalize licensing
- 47:51requirements for communication protocols.
- 47:54So you need a license to communicate.
- 47:57You see the slippery slope. Like the thing with Bitcoin guys
- 48:01that you have to understand is that it exposes incentives.
- 48:06And what you're what you're seeing is you're seeing a
- 48:09government, the nation state, trying to squirm and trying to
- 48:15justify its actions and using any type of law that's in the
- 48:21books, arbitrarily, I might add, to try to retain their power
- 48:27over money. That's what it fundamentally
- 48:29boils down to. I mean, this is something that,
- 48:33you know, the sovereign individual predicted, right?
- 48:38It says the authors predicted that with the rise of this new
- 48:43cyber space, cyberspace and consequently cyber money, it
- 48:46will become harder for nation states to collect taxes from its
- 48:49citizens. By the way, when I say collect
- 48:51taxes, that there's two types of taxes.
- 48:52There's inflation tax, there's another's income tax.
- 48:55They compared the state to a farmer keeping cows in a field
- 48:58to be milked. But that quote, soon the cows
- 49:02will have wings. They predict that that for the
- 49:05government to collect taxes from its citizens in this type of
- 49:08society, it would have to violate human rights.
- 49:12Even traditionally civil countries will have to resort
- 49:16and turn nasty. Businesses that offer the
- 49:19services that facilitate the realization of autonomy by
- 49:23individuals will be subject to infiltration, sabotage and
- 49:26disruption. That's from the sovereign
- 49:29individual. So this has nothing to do with
- 49:34the licenses and the laws. This has everything to do with
- 49:39the fact that, to use Black Rock's words, we now have a non
- 49:45sovereign monetary alternative and they're scared to death of
- 49:51that. Fortunately for us here in the
- 49:54United States, we have the 1st Amendment and the 1st Amendment.
- 49:58As Opti referred to earlier on on the show, back in the 1990s,
- 50:03they tried to do this before they tried to make encryption
- 50:06illegal, but they ended up losing those cases because they
- 50:09said someone actually even wore a shirt with the encryption
- 50:14codes that. Someone was Adam back.
- 50:16That Adam Back legend that they were trying to make illegal,
- 50:20right? So and I have a question for you
- 50:23guys. Like, do you think writing down
- 50:2512 words and memorizing them is illegal?
- 50:29You think like sending like, you know, a transaction, like that's
- 50:35essentially where they're going with this, right?
- 50:38This is, this is tyranny. And the reason it's tyranny is
- 50:40because it, we've never been in a situation where governments
- 50:45are on the verge of losing a very, very effective and
- 50:51powerful source of funding for them.
- 50:54And that's what it comes down to anyways, Lola.
- 50:57And then I'll pass it on to Opti after this.
- 50:58Lola says Tornado Cash needed a banking license, Samurai Wallet
- 51:02needed a banking license. WhatsApp, Apple X probably all
- 51:05needed licenses too. Doesn't admit, Doesn't make any
- 51:07sense, correct. That's why the SCC has proposed
- 51:09a rule to formalize license licensing requirements for
- 51:13communication protocols. In a speech at the annual U.S.
- 51:16Treasury Market Conference, Genser announced to rule on
- 51:20proposed amendments to the Exchange Act by November, which
- 51:23expanded the definition of the term exchange to mean quote
- 51:27systems that bring together whether buyers and sellers of
- 51:30securities. Critics argue the rule may be
- 51:33weaponized to criminally indict software developers in an
- 51:36already hostile environment for crypto and privacy developers.
- 51:42I mean, this is nuts. This is absolutely crazy.
- 51:46Now last bit of commentary I'll add before we just kind of open
- 51:51up the discussion. There's an election coming up in
- 51:58November, OK? And it will have consequences
- 52:02for the Bitcoin regulatory environment in the United States
- 52:06over the next four years. And there's 2 candidates, 1 is
- 52:11pro Bitcoin, anti CBDC and one is anti Bitcoin, pro CBDC.
- 52:19Who you choose will impact the regulatory environment in the
- 52:23United States. I can't put it any more simpler
- 52:26than that. You can talk to me about all the
- 52:29other political rhetoric. I don't give a flying fuck.
- 52:32I'm a single issue voter. Bitcoin over party.
- 52:36I'm going to say that like three times.
- 52:38Bitcoin party, Bitcoin party, Bitcoin party, right?
- 52:45So if we want the environment for Bitcoin owners, a Bitcoin
- 52:51business owners, Bitcoin innovators, Bitcoin builders in
- 52:55the United States to be a good environment, maybe the orange
- 53:00man would be a good idea. My two Sats there, I know it's
- 53:05quite controversial with a lot of people, but yeah, man, I
- 53:09mean, this is a very, very dangerous precedent that we're
- 53:13going down where government just continues to increase more and
- 53:19more and more and more of their control in the hopes of
- 53:24retaining the power of the money printer.
- 53:26So anyways, my thoughts on all that.
- 53:29Opti, what's your take? And then we'll move on to the
- 53:32next segment. Yeah.
- 53:33Well, my take not and not to like reiterate everything you
- 53:36said, it's it's slightly of a different tangent, but it, it's
- 53:40still in the same vein. And this ruling basically, or at
- 53:44least so far it, it's hasn't finished yet, but the judge
- 53:48basically said that control is not necessary to establish money
- 53:51transmission. And This is why we've seen this
- 53:55year in in particular. And, and we saw, we've been
- 53:58seeing this build up to this point where they are trying to
- 54:02do whatever they can to stop self custody of Bitcoin.
- 54:05Remember what was Elizabeth Warren's phrasing her meme that
- 54:08she made unhosted wallets. Remember, we've been, we were
- 54:11talking about unhosted wallets, quote UN quote, unhosted wallets
- 54:14for a long time on this show. And like Grubbles said, not
- 54:18Grubbles on Twitter said now basically Bitcoin is illegal
- 54:22like every every single person running a node all the miners
- 54:24anyone using Bitcoin. If this does set the precedent
- 54:28that we see it going towards is basically going to mean mean
- 54:32that all of us are money transmitters because we're using
- 54:34the Bitcoin network and this is very obviously doubling down on
- 54:38this whole choke .2 point O. Obviously they've been trying to
- 54:41stop the on and off ramp for a while.
- 54:43They're trying to stop us from taking Bitcoin into our custody.
- 54:47And now if this does set that precedent, every single person
- 54:51that uses the Bitcoin network is essentially going to need to,
- 54:55you know, sign up to be money transmitters because none of us
- 54:58can even like literally no one actually controls the bitcoins.
- 55:02You just have the keys to send the bitcoins and and that's like
- 55:06there's no control of Bitcoin on the network in general.
- 55:09And so again, there's two things going on.
- 55:12One I think is them trying to stop you from customing your
- 55:16Bitcoin. Again, referencing the clip we
- 55:19played yesterday of Gary Gensler where he's like, look, just go
- 55:21into these regulated custodians, these ETS if you want that
- 55:24Bitcoin exposure. Again, a lot of signal to the
- 55:28point that they don't want you custodying your Bitcoin, which
- 55:32what's that mean? It means we're going to custody
- 55:33our Bitcoin. That's the most important thing
- 55:35to be doing here. And two is sting.
- 55:38I just I just blanked on what my second point was on there.
- 55:41But it the point still remains. They don't want you to custody
- 55:44your Bitcoin and they're going to do whatever they can to stop
- 55:48you, the individual from custom your Bitcoin.
- 55:50And we're seeing a lot of signs, a lot of the writing on the wall
- 55:53that this is the case, that they want to funnel you into the
- 55:56centralized Bitcoin products so that they can control the
- 55:59network. And thus the most important
- 56:02thing to be doing is taking that Bitcoin into custody.
- 56:05It's not just about getting price exposure to Bitcoin, it's
- 56:08about actually holding that Bitcoin, or rather holding the
- 56:12keys to access that Bitcoin. Because now if this goes
- 56:18through, every single person that participates with Bitcoin
- 56:22is now a money transmitter, which is absolutely ridiculous.
- 56:26It's it's absolutely ludicrous. It kind of shows, I remember
- 56:30what my second point was. It shows just how one tech
- 56:35illiterate these people are and two, that they're trying to
- 56:38force the, the Fiat rules on to Bitcoin and it just, it
- 56:42absolutely makes no sense because Bitcoin is a totally
- 56:44different beast. What's that?
- 56:46What's that? I'm, I'm thinking of the, the
- 56:48Kobe, the Kobe tweet commercial where he's like, it's a, it's a
- 56:52different beast, but the same monster or something.
- 56:54I forget, I forget what it is, but it's a totally different
- 56:56system. And you can see that they're
- 56:59panicking to try to control Bitcoin.
- 57:02From my perspective, I would say that the cat's out of the bag
- 57:05and it's a little too, too little too late.
- 57:07But that doesn't mean that they're not going to try to
- 57:09control Bitcoin. It doesn't mean that they're not
- 57:11going to try to gaslight and scare the population away from
- 57:14using Bitcoin. Which is why it's so important
- 57:16for us to not only get involved in our community, not only talk
- 57:19about what what Bitcoin actually is and continue to make content,
- 57:24continue to write stuff, continue to build tools so that
- 57:27they can't stop this. Like it always kind of goes back
- 57:30to the, the Uber playbook where look, they're, they're going to
- 57:35write laws. We all know this, they're going
- 57:36to write laws to try to stop Bitcoin, but we just got to make
- 57:39the killer apps out there so that they fundamentally have to
- 57:42bend the knee, but they are actively trying to stop Bitcoin,
- 57:46which just kind of goes into everything.
- 57:47We always say Bitcoin's winning so hard, they're terrified.
- 57:50And all this is just projection because they know that the game
- 57:54is up, the the jig is up and the Fiat system's the real Ponzi.
- 57:58The Fiat system is the is is the real thing that's messing up
- 58:02everything in the world and they have to protect that Moat.
- 58:05They have to do whatever they can to stop Bitcoin and to make
- 58:08us look like criminals. I can't even remember all of the
- 58:10bad things they've called us throughout the years and they'll
- 58:13continue to do this it. It's their incentive to keep the
- 58:16Fiat system going, which just again, just completely exposes
- 58:20them when they come to Bitcoin. So hey, keep taking Bitcoin into
- 58:24custody, keep talking about Bitcoin, keep, keep saving in
- 58:27Bitcoin. This is how we win is when we
- 58:30literally take all of our wealth and all of our energy out of the
- 58:33Fiat system and put it into Bitcoin. 101 million percent.
- 58:39All right, everybody stay tuned because we still got the culture
- 58:41segment. Opti hasn't told me what we're
- 58:43going to talk about during the culture.
- 58:44All right, you know a. Little bit of a tease, my
- 58:47friend. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 58:48So this week we had had a lot of content come out that kind of
- 58:53breaks the echo chamber. And my first story here is, you
- 58:57know, Jack Mahler's talking to Rick Rubin and I'm, I love, I'm
- 59:00a huge hip hop kid, you know, and I, I just love examples of
- 59:04this. And the next one is I'll tease,
- 59:07I'll tease the next one. But we have examples of the
- 59:09Bitcoin signal going mainstream, not necessarily mainstream, but
- 59:12just outside of the Bitcoin echo chamber.
- 59:15And this is how we win is by making more people aware of what
- 59:19is going on, not just from, you know, Bitcoiners that are biased
- 59:22on the Internet, but people that have huge platforms.
- 59:25And you can see them getting orange peeled in real time.
- 59:27And it's just beautiful to see. Absolutely.
- 59:29All right, everybody, stay tuned.
- 59:30We'll be right back. Let's hit the culture,
- 59:44Speaking of culture guys, stack friends who Stacks apps join the
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- 1:00:01you've lived in your city for a long time, perhaps you're
- 1:00:04travelling for Bitcoin conferences and you don't know
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- 1:00:09You pull it up and it will literally show you any
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- 1:00:18it's probably a good idea to connect with fellow bitcoiners,
- 1:00:21right? It's also one of the best ways
- 1:00:23to send me a message. Don't really answer really
- 1:00:26random Twitter DMS these days or random emails.
- 1:00:30So if you want to connect with me, you want to talk to me,
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- 1:00:44loves talking to people on the orange pull up.
- 1:00:47Anyways, I want to pull this up. Wait.
- 1:00:49Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I, I just, I literally just
- 1:00:52opened up the app this morning and I apologies to everyone.
- 1:00:55I have like, I don't even know like 50 messages.
- 1:00:59I'll respond to them. I don't know if I'll get to it
- 1:01:00all this weekend, but I I'm going to respond to everyone.
- 1:01:03I'm really bad at communicating. The only people I answered the
- 1:01:07most is literally the only calls I pick up is like my mom and
- 1:01:10Nico. That's like the only people I
- 1:01:12pick up on my phone. I'm really, I'm really bad at my
- 1:01:15DMS anyways. Anyways, no, please message.
- 1:01:18Opti on the orange pull up message Opti Sorry guys.
- 1:01:22Pull up anyways sorry guys I I have a lot of messages in there
- 1:01:25opti. For someone who is not as
- 1:01:29musically literate as you are, who is Rick Rubin and why is he
- 1:01:33so important? OK, all right.
- 1:01:35Well, OK, so I, I've told this story before, but I'll TLDR
- 1:01:39before I got into Bitcoin, I, I love music.
- 1:01:43I, I wanted to produce music. It was like my hobby, my
- 1:01:46passion. I had thousands of records.
- 1:01:48I just love music. I did the only thing I probably
- 1:01:51love more than Bitcoin is like I said, my mother in music.
- 1:01:55That's like, that's all I care about.
- 1:01:57So Rick Rubin is probably one of the most famous producers in
- 1:02:03music period. He, you know, he's, he's, he's
- 1:02:06the GOAT. He's one of the guys that is
- 1:02:08behind a lot of your favorite music.
- 1:02:10If if you're not like a music nerd like I am, then you
- 1:02:13probably know and love a lot of here.
- 1:02:15Let me, let me, I'll, I'll Google this real quick because
- 1:02:18there's so many people that Ruben has been a part of that
- 1:02:22probably just blows your mind. He he's behind so much stuff.
- 1:02:27So he was behind the BC boys, Ghetto boys, run DMC, Public
- 1:02:31Enemy, LL Cool J. He, you know, was behind part
- 1:02:36he's produced records for like Johnny Cash, Rage Against the
- 1:02:41Machine, Metallica slit, like so many people in every every
- 1:02:45corner of the world, you know, Red Hot Chili Peppers, like he's
- 1:02:49behind a lot of modern music. He's he's a tastemaker.
- 1:02:52And the beauty of of Rick Rubin is that he is very famously
- 1:02:57doesn't He's not even musically inclined.
- 1:02:59He's just like, I know what I like.
- 1:03:00I have a good year. So in in zoomer terms for you
- 1:03:04guys, he's an influencers was a word.
- 1:03:06He's behind so many artists that you know and love and he's just
- 1:03:11a tastemaker. And so This is why I think it's
- 1:03:13really cool. And again, it's just just me
- 1:03:15kind of itchy. That means my own itch.
- 1:03:17That means that he's incredibly talented.
- 1:03:19Super talented but really more he like I.
- 1:03:22Said he's a tastemaker, he's got a great ear.
- 1:03:24He's he's a part of popular culture.
- 1:03:26Instinct, my friend. Exactly.
- 1:03:28And. So.
- 1:03:30When bit corners reach out and we talk to other people, this is
- 1:03:34how you start to infiltrate popular culture is by having
- 1:03:37these conversations with people. Yes, not everyone's Jack Mollers
- 1:03:41and yes, everyone you're going to talk to is not Rick Rubin,
- 1:03:44but you never know how many degrees of separation you are
- 1:03:46from influential people. And so when I saw this, I
- 1:03:49thought this was super cool. You know, picture here of Jack
- 1:03:52Mollers with Rick Rubin and they did a podcast, they did an hour
- 1:03:56podcast and you got Jack Mollers here going orange Pilling with
- 1:03:59Rick Rubin. We talk money, time, energy and
- 1:04:01why Bitcoin is one of the best tools we've ever created.
- 1:04:04The harder our money, the better we are.
- 1:04:06Time and Bitcoin are the only assets where no amount of demand
- 1:04:09can create more supply. So they dropped this podcast and
- 1:04:13then literally the following day we got Rick Rubin quoting Jack
- 1:04:17Muller's about just how mind blowing Bitcoin is.
- 1:04:20And if you want to hear a master class of how to orange pill, I'm
- 1:04:25not saying Rick Rubin necessarily a normie, but he's a
- 1:04:27normie in regards to Bitcoin. But if you want to hear a master
- 1:04:30class of how to orange pill a normie and and teach them about
- 1:04:33Bitcoin, I highly recommend you go listen to through this
- 1:04:36podcast. Rick Reubens.
- 1:04:38I I'm I'm going to butcher the the name of the podcast.
- 1:04:41It's like Tet Teta Magatron or some I don't just just Google
- 1:04:46Rick Rubin, Jack Mahler's, but this quote, this quote right
- 1:04:49here from Mike Germano. He of course, he's over at
- 1:04:51Bitcoin magazine. He goes Bitcoin needs less
- 1:04:53Bitcoiners talking on Bitcoin podcast about Bitcoin.
- 1:04:56We need more of this of reaching out and talking to other people
- 1:05:00outside of our space that are tastemakers that do understand
- 1:05:04that there is a revolutionary shift going on.
- 1:05:07And the funniest part about this clip is you can in real time
- 1:05:11hear Rick Rubin kind of get orange peeled in the aha moments
- 1:05:14go on. So it's beautiful.
- 1:05:15All right, next one is we got this clip.
- 1:05:18Wait, wait, can you go back and and read that that?
- 1:05:20Quote OK, so here's Rick Rubin quoting.
- 1:05:23Jack Mahler's and he goes change is hard and scary.
- 1:05:26It's difficult to adopt something you don't understand.
- 1:05:29But what's funny is you can look at it two ways.
- 1:05:31You can say, wow, this is such an obvious technological
- 1:05:34advancement for our species. Why hasn't this?
- 1:05:37Why wasn't this adopted yesterday?
- 1:05:38Or you can say Bitcoin was invented 15 years ago by an
- 1:05:41anonymous individual with no marketing budget, no corporate
- 1:05:44headlines. This person didn't take it
- 1:05:46public with Goldman Sachs and it's already a trillion dollar
- 1:05:49asset class that's materially changing the world.
- 1:05:52How long did it take Google to make its impact?
- 1:05:54Longer than 15 years. You can look at it two ways.
- 1:05:57You can go, holy smokes, this is going really fast.
- 1:05:59Or you can maybe glass half empty this Jack Mahler's quoted
- 1:06:03by Rick Rubin, who is an absolute goat when it comes to
- 1:06:07shifting the cultural landscape that we all find ourselves apart
- 1:06:11him. So love him or hate him, he's a
- 1:06:13tastemaker. And if he's getting orange
- 1:06:15peeled, you know, he's having these conversations with people.
- 1:06:18And once you get orange peeled, you don't go back, OK, on the
- 1:06:22same thing. Another person, love him or hate
- 1:06:24him, we got this. I, I think this is an awesome
- 1:06:27clip. And I'm going to connect this
- 1:06:29with the hurricane that is hitting in Tampa right now in
- 1:06:31Florida, you know, near Nico's neck of the woods.
- 1:06:33But we got Andrew Tate on his podcast talking about what
- 1:06:37basically what we say here on the show all the time.
- 1:06:40So I want to play this real quick 'cause it's, it's actually
- 1:06:42kind of hilarious. We have Bitcoin now.
- 1:06:45Why would you buy? A house when you can buy Bitcoin
- 1:06:47instead. You buy a house, you have to pay
- 1:06:50property tax. You buy a Bitcoin.
- 1:06:54Done. Let's.
- 1:06:54Just sell it you haven't got. To pay property taxes every
- 1:06:57month, the government can't take it from you because you lost it
- 1:07:00in a boating accident. Plus you get higher rate of
- 1:07:03return. Plus you're geographically free.
- 1:07:05Plus you can liquidate it instantly without waiting years
- 1:07:08to sell it on the market. Just love it.
- 1:07:12Absolutely love it, just spitting.
- 1:07:13Bars out there and now connecting this to the hurricane
- 1:07:17that we're seeing, we've seen that Gary Cordone, you know,
- 1:07:21brother of of Grant Cardone, their their financial whatever
- 1:07:26investors and they got a big platform.
- 1:07:28They're mainly in real estate, but he dropped his clip
- 1:07:32yesterday and connecting the two.
- 1:07:34What Andrew Tate just said with Gary Cardone literally having
- 1:07:38the hurricane land on his front yard.
- 1:07:41He's sitting here saying the same thing.
- 1:07:44Like, damn, I should have just bought Bitcoin instead of this
- 1:07:47house. So remember what Tate just said
- 1:07:49and then listen to this. There is some wind background
- 1:07:51because he's literally in the heart of a hurricane.
- 1:07:54But I I found this hilarious too.
- 1:07:56I mean, it's almost above the rail now.
- 1:08:01It's a foot and a half from the rail.
- 1:08:02I'll lose all my electrics here in a little bit.
- 1:08:09Well, I'll tell you one thing. This is $72 million worth of
- 1:08:22Bitcoin right here. If I would have bought Bitcoin
- 1:08:25with the same amount of money I spent to buy this house in
- 1:08:28October of 2020, this has that. That would be $72 million and I
- 1:08:37wouldn't be worried about the water.
- 1:08:40All right, So if you couldn't hear that because of all the
- 1:08:42the. Hurricane winds.
- 1:08:43He said this house right here is worth $72 million in Bitcoin.
- 1:08:48And if he had bought Bitcoin in 2020 when he bought this house
- 1:08:51today, it would be worth $72 million.
- 1:08:53And he wouldn't have to worry about the hurricane literally on
- 1:08:57his front yard. And he's been going on a tirade
- 1:08:59on Twitter ever since. If, if if big if.
- 1:09:03Big, big. If yeah, and then he stamped.
- 1:09:06His seed on. A.
- 1:09:07Stamp seed Titanium. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.
- 1:09:12And the last one is this one, which is just absolutely
- 1:09:15hilarious. You can see that Bitcoin is
- 1:09:18thoroughly saturating the culture, and I just love this.
- 1:09:21So Hayley Welch, AKA the famous hot Tula girl, she dropped a
- 1:09:25meme this morning with Michael Saylor.
- 1:09:27There's been a new Twitter trend of of her podcast where they put
- 1:09:32her with like, you know, famous figures and did you hear what
- 1:09:35what was said on her podcast? But she tweeted this one this
- 1:09:39morning, which is hilarious. Good morning, Mr. Sailor Moon
- 1:09:42and you can see up here on top. Haley recently went viral for
- 1:09:45telling Michael Saylor the future of Bitcoin will be
- 1:09:47immutable data storage that is decentralized from any
- 1:09:50government control on the top tool podcast and just a meme.
- 1:09:54I know it's Friday and we're probably not going to do the the
- 1:09:57meme review today, but I just find it hilarious that we're
- 1:10:00seeing Bitcoin slowly but surely just start to saturate popular
- 1:10:04culture. Whether it's talking to Rick
- 1:10:06Rubin, whether it's Andrew Tate talking about it on his podcast,
- 1:10:09Grant Cardone, Gary Cardone talking about it and and or even
- 1:10:15Dang Dave Ramsey being so anti Bitcoin.
- 1:10:18Like all these people are talking about Bitcoin or the
- 1:10:21Haktua girl posting Bitcoin memes.
- 1:10:24I think as the price starts to go up, we're going to see more
- 1:10:28examples of this. Coming out.
- 1:10:30And I think there will be a watershed moment where as the,
- 1:10:34you know, it's probably going to be after 100K that once Bitcoin
- 1:10:38price does start to run, there's going to be a retail fervor and
- 1:10:43retail FOMO like we saw in 2017. Yes, everyone's broke out there,
- 1:10:48but that just means everyone is looking for a way to increase
- 1:10:51their purchasing power. So, you know, just a fun little
- 1:10:54Friday about the culture and then about Bitcoin saturating in
- 1:10:58popular culture. Usually we talk about different
- 1:11:01cultural events. Today, of course, I kind of
- 1:11:04weave together the hurricane and maybe why you don't want to buy
- 1:11:08real estate. I'm a huge fan of Rick Rubin.
- 1:11:11I think he's the GOAT. And so you can see Bitcoin is
- 1:11:14starting to make inroads into popular culture and it's only a
- 1:11:18matter of time until the rest of the world realizes the
- 1:11:22revolutionary power and the movement behind Bitcoin.
- 1:11:25So, you know, just a light little, light little culture for
- 1:11:28you today, Nico, but what's your thoughts?
- 1:11:32Excellent, dude. That was excellent.
- 1:11:33I I love that. This is This is why, you know,
- 1:11:37if you guys are simply Bitcoin Ogs like we, we used to have a
- 1:11:41different segment, right? And we transitioned to the
- 1:11:44culture because we, we felt like, you know, this is a
- 1:11:48revolution. And, and I love Andrew
- 1:11:51Breitbart's quote when it comes to this, right, like you want,
- 1:11:53you want to win over the politics, you have to win over
- 1:11:56the culture. Like politics is downstream from
- 1:11:58culture. That's why it's so important.
- 1:11:59That's why we like highlight this types of things.
- 1:12:02And Germano, first of all, you know, he's, he's the president
- 1:12:07of Bitcoin magazine. Look up to him.
- 1:12:09He has a tremendous amount of, of experience.
- 1:12:11That's how I. Was about to say that
- 1:12:14tremendous. Amount of experience in in in
- 1:12:16media. So for him to say that statement
- 1:12:19holds a lot of weight and that is how you move the Overton
- 1:12:23window. That's how you move the cultural
- 1:12:25window, right when you have people that did not get famous
- 1:12:30in Bitcoin talking about how Bitcoin fixes things because
- 1:12:35then people won't automatically think you're a lunatic from the
- 1:12:38beginning, right. It's like Opti and I like I
- 1:12:42built my fame and Opti built, we built our, our platform through
- 1:12:46Bitcoin, right? So when I'm approaching people,
- 1:12:49they know me as a Bitcoiner. If this guy Cardone or Orange
- 1:12:55Man or you know, or Russell Brand or Tim Poole talk about
- 1:13:02Bitcoin and how Bitcoin fixes things, they never built their
- 1:13:05fame on Bitcoin. They built their fame on
- 1:13:08different, a variety of different things.
- 1:13:11And then they're talking about Bitcoin.
- 1:13:12They're saying Bitcoin fixes things.
- 1:13:14So that is how we break this Bitcoin echo chamber and we
- 1:13:19really get this idea. And I want you guys, if you if
- 1:13:23you guys have made it to the end of the show to connect
- 1:13:26everything that we've been saying from the very beginning
- 1:13:29to now. And I want you guys to connect
- 1:13:33the dots, right? So all these mainstream people
- 1:13:39basically saying Bitcoin fixes this, look at what the
- 1:13:42government is doing to try to stop it.
- 1:13:45And then the question that I want to leave for you guys over
- 1:13:47the weekend is not what is money?
- 1:13:50What is government? And why should should the
- 1:13:56government, especially in the United States, you know, this is
- 1:13:59supposed to be a free country. You're free.
- 1:14:02Your speech is protected. Your right to bear arms is
- 1:14:04protected. The right to an opinion, right
- 1:14:08to privacy, all of those things are protected.
- 1:14:11They aren't privileges given to you by government.
- 1:14:15They're things that were bestowed to you by God.
- 1:14:19And that's the way it's framed. So now that we are in this stage
- 1:14:24in history where we are in the separation of money and state
- 1:14:28and. It's exposing the.
- 1:14:31Incentives of these institutions and the state, which is supposed
- 1:14:37to be by the people for the people.
- 1:14:39But Bitcoin and what we're what it's really doing is it's
- 1:14:41exposing it to be by the state for the state.
- 1:14:47It's important to remember where we are and it's important to
- 1:14:50remember that each and every single one of us can make a
- 1:14:53difference. We don't need a platform.
- 1:14:56So every time you see Gary Gensler or the Treasury or a
- 1:15:01central bank account or something on Twitter or the New
- 1:15:04York Times or all the legacy media, go in there and try to
- 1:15:08just, you know, shout BS from the rooftops.
- 1:15:13Get in there, make your voice heard.
- 1:15:16I love this quote by. Jeff Booth, I'm going to.
- 1:15:18I'm going. To end it with this, which is if
- 1:15:24the international rules based order is built on a system of
- 1:15:32theft, what do you think? That rules based.
- 1:15:36Order is going to require. Coercion and censorship.
- 1:15:45Simple as that. So anyways guys, the last thing
- 1:15:48I want to say last little bit and then we're rolling it out.
- 1:15:51Bitcoin is fighting a cultural war just as much as it's
- 1:15:54fighting a monetary war. And as we know, once you start
- 1:15:58holding Bitcoin, you start to see the world differently.
- 1:16:01Once you get on the Bitcoin operating system, you
- 1:16:03fundamentally view the world differently.
- 1:16:05And a lot of this does have to do with our behaviors as a whole
- 1:16:10on planet Earth right now and being incentivized by the Fiat
- 1:16:14system. And Bitcoin is fundamentally
- 1:16:16changing that. You know, block by block, person
- 1:16:18by person, the world is changing in real time once they all start
- 1:16:22touching Bitcoin and getting involved in Bitcoin.
- 1:16:24So this is the, this is how we win.
- 1:16:26It is a cultural movement as much as it is a monetary one, as
- 1:16:29much as it's going to be a political one.
- 1:16:31This is a movement about people and this is how we win 100%, one
- 1:16:38individual. Are at a time winning over the
- 1:16:40hearts and minds of people, meeting them where they are.
- 1:16:44This is not left versus right. It's not liberal versus
- 1:16:46conservative. It is the party of Green, the
- 1:16:49party of Fiat versus the party of Bitcoin, the party of freedom
- 1:16:53and hope and opportunity and peace and prosperity.
- 1:16:56Anyways guys, this was simply Bitcoin live for the week of
- 1:16:59September 27th, 2024. This is the Friday episode.
- 1:17:05I'm your host. Nico is my legendary Co host,
- 1:17:08Optimist Fields. Hope you guys have an amazing
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