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Ukraine Deep Dive: Biden Fake Photo Op; Travels to Kiev, not Ohio; Russia Ending New Start Treaty Is Good For America. · The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson

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Speaker 1: Center. Nice to be with you. As always. We've got
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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that's really serious to talk about
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Speaker 1: this week, and I want to start by just the semantics.
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Speaker 1: And it's really been embarrassing, not just in the US,
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Speaker 1: but I think around the world. You have the president
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Speaker 1: that tries to act like this trip to Ukraine to
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Speaker 1: meet with Zelenski was a surprise trip. It clearly was
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Speaker 1: not a surprise trip. Many of the media were tipped
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Speaker 1: off and been there for more than a week waiting
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Speaker 1: on him to get there, from what we understand, and
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Speaker 1: then we saw air aid sirens go off at the
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Speaker 1: exact moment that he and Zelenski are walking out for
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Speaker 1: the cameras outside. Neither of them are alarmed by it.
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Speaker 1: Secret Service didn't look around. None of the security detail
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Speaker 1: for Zelenski looked around. In fact, even CNN's ripping on
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Speaker 1: the present. Here's a look at the video first, and
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Speaker 1: then we'll show you Snend's response, no one really seemed
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Speaker 1: that concerned. Well, look, the thing to understand about the
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Speaker 1: Biden White House is it's all calms, all the time.
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Speaker 1: Everything they do is about pr National security isn't a priority.
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Speaker 1: Defending this nation isn't a priority. Standing with our allies
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Speaker 1: as in a priority. Defeating our enemies asn't a priority.
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Speaker 1: Securing our border isn't a priority, Defending people from violent
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Speaker 1: criminals isn't a priority. The only thing they care about
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Speaker 1: is communications. They approach everything. Imagine you take a Hollywood
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Speaker 1: producer and put them in charge of the White House.
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Speaker 1: You get the Biden White House, and so you have
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Speaker 1: things like you look at the January sixth committee. Yeah
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Speaker 1: time that the Nancy Pelosi kangaroo court show committee. They
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Speaker 1: literally brought in Hollywood producer to put it on. It
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Speaker 1: was meant to be a partisan infomercial to influence the
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Speaker 1: last election. You look at the Biden ridiculous trip to
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Speaker 1: the border. A. He delayed two years before going to
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Speaker 1: the southern border. B. He goes to El Paso, not
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Speaker 1: to not to the Rio Grand Valley, not eight hundred miles.
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Speaker 1: El Paso is as far from McCallan as Chicago is
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Speaker 1: from Washington, DC. That's how far away he went. But
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Speaker 1: when he went, prior to that, there had been illegal
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Speaker 1: immigrants camped out homeless on the streets. They cleaned them
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Speaker 1: all up. Suddenly it was sparkling in pristine and he
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Speaker 1: went the entire trip without seeing a single illegal immigrant.
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Speaker 1: It was entirely a made for TV event. Well that's
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Speaker 1: what this was. And so when he walks in, what
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Speaker 1: makes for good TV. Let's sound the air raid sirens.
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Speaker 1: But you're right, it's it is ridiculous farce because if
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Speaker 1: there act was a real air rate sirens, that wouldn't
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Speaker 1: be a reaction. They would be running. Yeah, and if
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Speaker 1: he wasn't running, the Secret Service would have run and
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Speaker 1: grabbed him and put him in a child. They would
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Speaker 1: have picked him up off the ground, like if there
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Speaker 1: is an air rate siren coming in and a missile
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Speaker 1: is about to land on their head, you think they'd
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Speaker 1: just be strolling along, no big deal. One hundred percent theater,
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent for show. And amazingly enough, the media
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Speaker 1: called him out for it. You and I aren't the
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Speaker 1: only people who noticed. Even the professional propagandist at CNN
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Speaker 1: called him out for it. Yeah, look at this, it's amazing.
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Speaker 1: Here's CNN again showing this to the world saying this
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Speaker 1: is basically total crap. I've been here for the past
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Speaker 1: five days. I have not heard any explosions, I have
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Speaker 1: not heard any air sirens until about half an hour ago,
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Speaker 1: right when President Biden was in the center of Kiev,
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Speaker 1: as Clarissa was just mentioning, So at the same time
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Speaker 1: that life has gotten back to normal relatively speaking here
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Speaker 1: in the Hapital, of course, it is far from that
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Speaker 1: elsewhere in the country. Before I get your response to that,
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Speaker 1: I just want to think about the producers at CNN
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Speaker 1: that allowed that to actually even go out over the air.
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Speaker 1: I worked there for seven years. This was I think
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Speaker 1: just an insult to their intelligence and they were mad,
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Speaker 1: how dare you think that we're going to carry water
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Speaker 1: on this stage of this ridiculous nature when this hasn't
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Speaker 1: been happening. This is not normal for CNN, But I
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Speaker 1: think it actually just insulted them as journalists. You think
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Speaker 1: we're just gonna look at this and act like it
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Speaker 1: was normal. So I'm not sure they're capable of being insulted,
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Speaker 1: but for whatever reason that they decided not to be
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Speaker 1: propagandists on this topic today. And I gotta say for
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Speaker 1: the Biden White House and for Democrats generally, that's a
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Speaker 1: warning sign when they've lost CNN, they're in trouble. It
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Speaker 1: wasn't just CNN. Reuters, Yeah, Reuters, look at their tweet.
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Speaker 1: They put it up there as another who just said, hey,
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Speaker 1: air raid sirens blast across the Ukrainian capital as Biden
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Speaker 1: visits Kiev. Although there were no reports of Russian missile
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Speaker 1: or air strikes. It was entirely theater. The video should
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Speaker 1: have ended with I'm Joe Biden, and I approved this
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Speaker 1: message because it was a TV ad. It was meant
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Speaker 1: to be a TV ad. And you know, you think
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Speaker 1: back to just how much George W. Bush, who you
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Speaker 1: and I both worked for, regretted mission accomplished. So it
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Speaker 1: was one of the biggest mistakes of an entire presidency.
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Speaker 1: And that for people that may not remember, he landed
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Speaker 1: on an aircraft carrier. He got out of that plane,
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Speaker 1: he was in the flight gear. There was a big
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Speaker 1: banner over that aircraft here that's had mission accomplished. And
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Speaker 1: it was a great moment, pr moment, but it was
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Speaker 1: the wrong thing when we saw how long that war
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Speaker 1: you know, went on. By the way, I will tell
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Speaker 1: you as an asside to that, Clay Johnson, who was
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Speaker 1: the head of personnel in the White House, had been
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Speaker 1: Bush's I guess it was high school roommate. And apparently
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Speaker 1: after you know, Bush gets out he's in that flight suit.
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Speaker 1: Apparently Clay went up to forty three in the oval
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Speaker 1: and said, mister President, I have to ask you, were
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Speaker 1: you actually wearing a codpiece? That's not a question many
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Speaker 1: people get to ask president of the United States. And
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Speaker 1: if you happen to be uh find your high school
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Speaker 1: roommate is president and he wears a codpiece, well, then
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Speaker 1: you get to ask that question. To ask that question,
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Speaker 1: I want. I don't know if Biden was wearing a
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Speaker 1: codpiece there, yeah, but but I will say he was
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Speaker 1: that moment those words mission accomplished haunted the rest of
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Speaker 1: the Bush presidency. And I do wonder if if this
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Speaker 1: march with the air raid, this this theater, theater, if
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Speaker 1: this will come back and haunt them. The fact that
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Speaker 1: they've already lost CNN and Reuters on it now that
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Speaker 1: of questions about Zelenski and how much it seems that
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Speaker 1: he understands he's acting for the cameras. Early on this war,
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Speaker 1: he was, you know, doing photos shoots and having makeup
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Speaker 1: artists come in. He also, if you remember, it's a
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Speaker 1: very different guy than came to meet with Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: He wore a suit. Then now he's always in these
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Speaker 1: military ask fatigues. There, sirens go off, he doesn't even
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Speaker 1: look up for a moment, doesn't even look at his
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Speaker 1: bodymen around him, like hey, is this real? Clearly again
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Speaker 1: another actor basically in in this play. Does it worry
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Speaker 1: you how much money we're sending him knowing that this
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Speaker 1: is what's happening in his country? Well it does. And
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Speaker 1: and listen, you're right, Zelenski is engaged in the as well.
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Speaker 1: And look, Zelenski, before he was president, he was an actor.
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Speaker 1: I mean he you're not joke. He was a professional
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Speaker 1: actor in a popular sitcom in Ukraine. And and now
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Speaker 1: he's president. He understands acting. And so you know, it's
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Speaker 1: a little jarring seeing all of these images of him
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Speaker 1: in a sweatshirt and fatigues next to Biden in his
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Speaker 1: pressed suit, whether in the Oval office or in Ukraine.
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Speaker 1: You know, Zelenski is always in this outfit and it
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Speaker 1: is a costume, and he understands what he's doing. It
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Speaker 1: is performance. I will say, when Zelenski came and addressed
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Speaker 1: the Joint Session of Congress, there was one fellow on
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Speaker 1: Twitter who put out something very amusing said, Look, it's
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Speaker 1: not fair to blame Zelenski that he didn't wear a
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Speaker 1: suit to address Congress. After all, an official in the
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Speaker 1: Biden administration stole his luggage. That's true. Yeah, you have
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Speaker 1: men wearing dresses, get you know that. But that remains
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Speaker 1: one of the most bizarre stories I've ever seen, to
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Speaker 1: have this cross dressing, non binary Biden appointee who's a
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Speaker 1: serial thief of luggage. But be that as it may,
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Speaker 1: it actually proved too much even for the Biden administration,
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Speaker 1: amazingly enough, once he was criminally charged with theft. But
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Speaker 1: getting back to Zelenski, he's engaged in theater. There's a
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Speaker 1: reason that Zelenski you see him at the Oscars, There's
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Speaker 1: a reason you see him on the cover of magazines.
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Speaker 1: He is deliberately engaged in theater. The fact that neither
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Speaker 1: Biden nor Zelenski flinch look around do anything when the
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Speaker 1: air raids sirens go off. Means both of them knew
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Speaker 1: about it, because there's no chance you're walking through and
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Speaker 1: suddenly air rain sirens go off, you react, and you
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Speaker 1: react quickly. I mean, I'll tell you I've spent a
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Speaker 1: fair amount of time in Israel. I haven't actually been
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Speaker 1: there when air raids sirens go off, but I've talked
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Speaker 1: to people who live on a kibbutz, for example, and
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Speaker 1: they describe how when the sirens go off, it can
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Speaker 1: mean you have anywhere from fifteen to forty five seconds
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Speaker 1: before impact a missile explodes, and so you sprint to
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Speaker 1: the closest shelter you can get. And it's the difference
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Speaker 1: between life and death. So no one who is familiar
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Speaker 1: with a war zone just ignores an air raid siren.
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Speaker 1: Zelinski's engaged in theater, so is Biden, and that it
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Speaker 1: underscores the objective of the trip, which is pr not
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Speaker 1: actual substantive national security objectives. There was another aspect of
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Speaker 1: this before we get into Russia and what's going on
11:42
Speaker 1: with the Russia, that actually relates the story back to
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Speaker 1: the US. We've had some issues here. Training derailments have
11:48
Speaker 1: come up. A lot of people, especially looking at what
11:51
Speaker 1: happened in Ohio, are very concerned now about air quality,
11:55
Speaker 1: about water quality there. We've seen a lot of the
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Speaker 1: viral videos of people, including members of Congress, who are
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Speaker 1: throwing rocks and stirring the water basin in these streams,
12:04
Speaker 1: and you're seeing chemicals come up to the service saying, look,
12:07
Speaker 1: it's all gone to the bottom here. Don't tell us
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Speaker 1: everything's fine. And Mayor Pete's like gone, we're not seeing him.
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Speaker 1: There's also people that are angry at the President for
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Speaker 1: going overseas instead of visiting there the American Bill first,
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Speaker 1: including the mayor of the local town where this happened.
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Speaker 1: He let him have it on TV. I understand why.
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Speaker 1: I take a look at this. Absolutely, that was the
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Speaker 1: biggest slap in the face that tells you right now
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Speaker 1: he doesn't care about us, so he can send every
12:34
Speaker 1: agency he wants to. But I found that out this
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Speaker 1: morning and one of the briefings that he was in
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Speaker 1: the Ukraine, given millions of dollars a way to people
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Speaker 1: over there and not to us. And I'm furious on
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Speaker 1: President's Day our country, yeah, President's Day in our country,
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Speaker 1: he's over Ukraine. Did they have a valid point. Of
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Speaker 1: course they do. Look, it is ridiculous that Joe Biden
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Speaker 1: has not been East Palestine yet. You literally have an
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Speaker 1: American city with a major derailment that was on fire,
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Speaker 1: where the water is being poisoned, where the air is
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Speaker 1: being poisoned, where it's ongoing for multiple days, and this
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Speaker 1: administration does not give a damn. Why because that part
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Speaker 1: of the state voted seventy percent for Donald Trump, and
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Speaker 1: it's clear their attitude. Look, it's all politics all the time,
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Speaker 1: it's all communications in pr all the time, and so
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Speaker 1: going there is a bad message and it really is striking.
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Speaker 1: So Donald Trump publicly said he was going to go
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Speaker 1: to East Palestine, and promptly the Biden administration said, oh,
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Speaker 1: we'll go to now. Yeah, but timing's right. Mayor Pete
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Speaker 1: now says he's gonna go. I don't even know what
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Speaker 1: that means. So the timing's right. The timing was right
13:39
Speaker 1: the day or two or three after this happened. Well,
13:41
Speaker 1: and let me ask you a question, what in the
13:44
Speaker 1: hell does Pete Buddha Jedge have to do to get fired?
13:47
Speaker 1: Like in the history of this country, has there ever
13:50
Speaker 1: been a transportation secretary who has screwed more things up
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Speaker 1: from in his first year in office, a supply chain
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Speaker 1: crisis that impacted the entire country, that made it hard
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Speaker 1: to get basics and essentials. And in the middle of
14:04
Speaker 1: supply Champion formula was on that list. Yeah, diapers was
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Speaker 1: on that list. We're talking about a necesses of people.
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Speaker 1: And in the middle of that supply chain crisis, Pete
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Speaker 1: Buddha Jedge is on a extended paternity leave, so he's
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Speaker 1: literally not even showing up to work. Most Americans have
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Speaker 1: never even heard of supply chain crisis until the thing
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Speaker 1: happened on Buddha Jedge's watch. That's how he started. Then
14:27
Speaker 1: you went on to almost have a major rail strike
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Speaker 1: last year because he failed to step in and solve
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Speaker 1: the problem at the outset. Then we had just recently
14:37
Speaker 1: the FAA screwed up with their no TAM system, grounded
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Speaker 1: every flight in America, the first time that has happened
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Speaker 1: since September eleventh because the fa screwed up. By the way,
14:49
Speaker 1: we had a hearing on that last week in the
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Speaker 1: Senate in the Commerce Committee where I'm the ranking member.
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Speaker 1: Pete Buddhajedge didn't show up. He sent the acting Administrator
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Speaker 1: of the FAA because there's no response ability from the Secretary.
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Speaker 1: And now with East Palestine, how did Pete Buddha Jedge
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Speaker 1: not get on the first plane after this this crisis
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Speaker 1: happened to be there on the ground at this point.
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Speaker 1: Wellhen the railway CEOs also don't seem to be worried
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Speaker 1: about him coming down on them because they just showed up. Finally,
15:21
Speaker 1: the CEO just now showed up, which means they're not
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Speaker 1: afraid that the bidendministration is going to come down heavy
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Speaker 1: on them. What Buddha Jedge does all day long is
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Speaker 1: the same thing Biden does all day long. He does politics.
15:34
Speaker 1: So buddhajg talks about gun control because you know, gun
15:37
Speaker 1: control is central to the statutory man data the Department
15:40
Speaker 1: of Transportation. It has nothing to do with it. But
15:44
Speaker 1: you know, he talks about how freeways and roads are racist.
15:48
Speaker 1: What the hell are you talking about a racist road?
15:50
Speaker 1: The last I checked, asphalt on the ground that you
15:53
Speaker 1: drive your car in is not racist. It's not racist.
15:56
Speaker 1: It's a piece of rock. It's almost as if picking
16:01
Speaker 1: out a small town mayor with no experience is not
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Speaker 1: a good idea to run a major cabinet agency like
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Speaker 1: the Department of Transportation. But Buddha Jedge, it seems, cannot
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Speaker 1: find the time to do his actual job. He's too
16:18
Speaker 1: busy thing about running for office. And it's the same
16:20
Speaker 1: situation that they actually parallel. The way Buddha Jedge approaches
16:26
Speaker 1: DOT is how Biden approaches the White House, which is
16:30
Speaker 1: every day it's a press release, it's a photo op.
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Speaker 1: It's not actually substantively addressing the problems and solving the problems.
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Speaker 1: You know. When it comes to Ukraine, listen, we have
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Speaker 1: a national security interest in Russia losing. We want Putin
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Speaker 1: to be defeated. But we don't have an interest in
16:50
Speaker 1: just writing blank checks to Zelenski funding corruption in the
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Speaker 1: Ukrainian government. We don't have an interest in funding all
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Speaker 1: the million bureaucracy. We don't have an interest in funding
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Speaker 1: the welfare system. We do have a national security interest
17:05
Speaker 1: in providing weapons to be used to kill Russians by
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Speaker 1: Ukrainian soldiers. Ironically, the Biden White House Number one caused
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Speaker 1: the war. We've talked about that a lot in this podcast.
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Speaker 1: By waving sanctions on Russia for nordstring to waving sanctions
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Speaker 1: on putin for Nordstring to Biden personally through his own
17:26
Speaker 1: political stupidity, caused this war. But number two, once the
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Speaker 1: war happened, Biden's slow walked military assistance all throughout. You'll
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Speaker 1: recall early on when the war started, the first reaction
17:38
Speaker 1: of the Biden administration was offering Zelenski, hey, we'll fly
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Speaker 1: you out of the country, to abandon the country. And
17:45
Speaker 1: Zelenski said, I don't need a ride, I need ammunition. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: And the Biden White House had no interest initially in
17:51
Speaker 1: providing military aid. I'll tell you when that was happening,
17:56
Speaker 1: the Biden administration was giving classified briefings to the entire
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Speaker 1: Senate saying this war will be over in less than
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Speaker 1: a week. Russia will sweep into Ukraine, the tanks will
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Speaker 1: overrun the entire country. It'll be over in a week.
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Speaker 1: The Ukrainians have no hope, no prayer whatsoever. Get involved
18:13
Speaker 1: because it's going to be done anyway. Their view was surrender.
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Speaker 1: That was their advice, as Zelenski, hey, we'll fly out.
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Speaker 1: When you fly a leader out, how often does that
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Speaker 1: leader come back into power within the next three, four
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Speaker 1: or five, six weeks or years? Right, usually doesn't happen.
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Speaker 1: So the Biden administration is not focused and for a
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Speaker 1: year has not been focused on how do we actually
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Speaker 1: win the war? How do we enable Ukraine to win
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Speaker 1: the war. We talked about in the last podcast how
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Speaker 1: the Biden administration is effectively funding both sides of the
18:41
Speaker 1: war because of waving sanctions on Iran and flowing billions
18:46
Speaker 1: of dollars into Iran that is providing the drones that
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Speaker 1: are killing Ukrainian citizens and Ukrainian soldiers. Biden administration doesn't
18:54
Speaker 1: want to cut off that funding, so instead they are
18:56
Speaker 1: funding the drones that are on the other side of
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Speaker 1: the war. What they need to focus on is the
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Speaker 1: national security and military objectives, and the objective should not
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Speaker 1: be for Joe Biden to become Santa Clause for the
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Speaker 1: entire Ukrainian government. The objective should be focused on concrete
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Speaker 1: national security objectives, not on air raid sirens and political theater.
19:25
Speaker 1: We're in this thing and it looks like it's open ended.
19:28
Speaker 1: It's basically in his announcement there to sit down there,
19:32
Speaker 1: it was very clear that we are open ended on
19:34
Speaker 1: the amount of money that we're willing to spend. I'm
19:37
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19:40
Speaker 1: a few guys have gotten any updates on, like, Hey,
19:43
Speaker 1: when we do send money, where's it going? Because Ukraine
19:47
Speaker 1: is a very corrupt country before Russia invaded. People need
19:51
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21:27
Speaker 1: Because people have heard that Ukraine is corrupt? Yes, is
21:30
Speaker 1: there any accountability in the accounting for when we send
21:33
Speaker 1: massive amounts cash because we aren't sending as much weaponry
21:36
Speaker 1: as we're sending just pure raw cash to Ukraine. Do
21:40
Speaker 1: we have any accounting or any checks and balances for
21:43
Speaker 1: this now open ended war. So we're sending both and
21:46
Speaker 1: we don't have nearly as much accountability as we need.
21:50
Speaker 1: On the weapons, there are lots of things we're not sending.
21:53
Speaker 1: For example, what are called attackum ballistic missiles ATACM. Those
21:59
Speaker 1: are ballistic missiles that Ukraine could use to take out
22:03
Speaker 1: the Iranian drones, the bases where Iranian drones are being sent,
22:06
Speaker 1: the operators that are using Iranian drones. Biden administration is
22:10
Speaker 1: not providing the missiles that could take out those Iranian
22:12
Speaker 1: drones because their priority is kissing up to the Aetola
22:17
Speaker 1: and entering into a new nuclear deal with the Aetola,
22:21
Speaker 1: even if it undermines US national security. At the same time,
22:27
Speaker 1: the billions that are going to the Ukrainian government that
22:31
Speaker 1: are not going for ammunition, not going for weapons, but
22:35
Speaker 1: instead are just going for general economic support. There is
22:38
Speaker 1: very little transparency, very little accountability as to where that
22:41
Speaker 1: money is going. I can tell you in the last
22:44
Speaker 1: couple of weeks I met with an ambassador of a
22:47
Speaker 1: NATO member and European country that is near Ukraine, and
22:54
Speaker 1: we spent quite a bit of time talking about what
22:58
Speaker 1: the status of what was going on in the Ukraine
23:00
Speaker 1: in war was. And I'll tell you the warning I
23:02
Speaker 1: gave this ambassador, which is that I think Congressional patience
23:09
Speaker 1: for an open ended commitment to the Ukraine War is
23:15
Speaker 1: fading quickly, and with a Republican majority in the House,
23:19
Speaker 1: I think you're going to see much more scrutiny on
23:25
Speaker 1: what funds are going. I think there will still be
23:28
Speaker 1: a willingness to provide actual weaponry, to provide ammunition or
23:34
Speaker 1: weapons that the Ukrainians can use to defend themselves. I
23:37
Speaker 1: think there will be very little interest in unrestrained checks
23:43
Speaker 1: going to the government of Ukraine. I also think the
23:46
Speaker 1: focus needs to be on what our strategic national objective is.
23:52
Speaker 1: For the Democrats, do you know what it is this administration?
23:55
Speaker 1: There is none from this administration for the Democrats. This
23:57
Speaker 1: has become a virtue signal for the Democrats. They wear
24:00
Speaker 1: a Ukrainian flag. Zelenski has become I think People magazine
24:04
Speaker 1: is going to name him the sexiest man alive. They're
24:06
Speaker 1: in love with him, and it's become a way a
24:09
Speaker 1: Ukrainian flag has become like a COVID mask. It's a
24:13
Speaker 1: sign to show your virtue. Yeah. Now, look on the
24:17
Speaker 1: conservative side, there are a lot of us who are
24:20
Speaker 1: Reagan Conservatives that believe standing up to Russian aggression is
24:23
Speaker 1: a good idea, that want Russia to lose, that want
24:26
Speaker 1: Putin to lose. But as we see all these leftists
24:29
Speaker 1: preening around with Ukrainian flags and you know, almost dancing
24:33
Speaker 1: with their fealty to him, it is driving millions of
24:38
Speaker 1: Americans away and saying, all right, if they're for it,
24:41
Speaker 1: I ain't for it. They don't have not once has
24:46
Speaker 1: this president articulated a clear national security interest for the
24:50
Speaker 1: United States in this war. The State of the Union address,
24:55
Speaker 1: he talked more about airline baggage fees than he did
24:59
Speaker 1: the biggest land or in Europe since World War Two
25:01
Speaker 1: that he caused. And at the same time, he didn't
25:04
Speaker 1: mention China or the balloon that just come over China
25:07
Speaker 1: over this country from China, and he also didn't mention
25:10
Speaker 1: the concern. And I want to ask you this because
25:14
Speaker 1: this unnatural alliance between China and Russia is one that
25:20
Speaker 1: I do think could bring us to a massive conflict
25:23
Speaker 1: of World War three, and yet this administration has literally
25:28
Speaker 1: done everything you could do to position and force these
25:31
Speaker 1: two countries into an unnatural alliance. And if you know
25:35
Speaker 1: anything about foreign policy, you don't want one of the
25:39
Speaker 1: most wealthy countries in the world that has a lot
25:42
Speaker 1: like again in a massive military in China also connecting
25:46
Speaker 1: with a massive nuclear power which is Russia, and them
25:50
Speaker 1: working together in any type of conflict. So Russia is
25:55
Speaker 1: our enemy, China is our enemy. Both are true. Putin
25:59
Speaker 1: is a guy, she is a bad guy. In both instances,
26:03
Speaker 1: we have nations that are deeply antagonistic and hostile to
26:08
Speaker 1: the United States. Biden's weakness towards all of our enemies
26:14
Speaker 1: has the effect of driving all of our enemies together
26:17
Speaker 1: and making them more aggressive. So Biden's weakness towards Iran
26:23
Speaker 1: causes Iran to be getting billions of dollars from Russia
26:26
Speaker 1: providing drones that are being used against the Ukrainians and
26:30
Speaker 1: the Ukrainian War. Biden's weakness towards China, and in fact,
26:34
Speaker 1: the fact that the Biden administration is perfectly happy to
26:37
Speaker 1: spend millions of dollars buying electric vehicles and batteries made
26:42
Speaker 1: using slave labor in Chinese concentration camps. That weakness to
26:46
Speaker 1: China makes China more willing to provide lethal military equipment
26:52
Speaker 1: to Russia again to be used to wage the war.
26:55
Speaker 1: In every instance, when the Biden administration is weak, our
26:59
Speaker 1: enemy gets stronger and they get unified in their opposition
27:04
Speaker 1: to the United States. This crap didn't happen when Trump
27:08
Speaker 1: was president, and there's a reason they were scared as
27:11
Speaker 1: hell of this guy. It wasn't dumb luck. There was
27:13
Speaker 1: an actual strategy that his administration had and the foreign
27:17
Speaker 1: policy people around him had, and as you just said,
27:20
Speaker 1: they were scared of his response. And there's a reason.
27:23
Speaker 1: And this is something that Biden and most Democrats don't understand.
27:28
Speaker 1: Weakness is provocative. The weaker Biden is, the worse our
27:34
Speaker 1: enemies get. Appeasement doesn't work and instead what and it
27:41
Speaker 1: actually paradoxically, the weaker you are, the greater you increase
27:46
Speaker 1: the chance of war. You want to stay out of war.
27:48
Speaker 1: War three, don't elect a spineless jellyfish like Joe Biden
27:52
Speaker 1: to be president because our enemies view him as so
27:56
Speaker 1: weak that he sits there for eight days while a
28:00
Speaker 1: Chinese spy balloon conducts espionage on the United States, and
28:04
Speaker 1: he does nothing. He shoots it down after its missions complete,
28:07
Speaker 1: and then getting back to the point that it's all
28:10
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28:13
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28:16
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28:18
Speaker 1: some high school kids twelve dollars balloon that we're sending
28:23
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28:27
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28:33
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28:36
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28:41
Speaker 1: is the equivalent of sounding the air raid alarms when
28:45
Speaker 1: you walk with Zelenski. It's made for TV. Look how
28:49
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28:51
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28:56
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29:00
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29:04
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Speaker 1: I want to get back to this other issue, and
30:25
Speaker 1: it is such an important one. It deals with foreign policy.
30:28
Speaker 1: The News Start treaty is something that many people may
30:32
Speaker 1: not even know about what it does, and now Rush
30:36
Speaker 1: has pulled out of it. Honestly, hadn't gotten a lot
30:38
Speaker 1: of media attention. It should because if this would have
30:42
Speaker 1: been handled correctly, and this goes back to the Obama
30:45
Speaker 1: Biden years, there's also this debt. A lot of this
30:49
Speaker 1: was going on and whether to renew or not renew
30:51
Speaker 1: under the under the Trump administration, and now with Joe
30:55
Speaker 1: Biden seems to bungle this to a level where we
30:58
Speaker 1: may not be where will you be today if there
31:00
Speaker 1: would have been different decisions made to explain it for people. Well,
31:04
Speaker 1: this week Russia pulled out of the New Start Treaty
31:09
Speaker 1: and the media coverage of kind of confused. They can't
31:11
Speaker 1: figure out what to say about this. I'll tell you
31:14
Speaker 1: what they should be saying. This is unequivocally good for America.
31:17
Speaker 1: This treaty was bad for America Russia. Ironically, this is
31:22
Speaker 1: one of the few things good that has come out
31:24
Speaker 1: of Joe Biden's bungled handling of the Ukraine War. Is
31:28
Speaker 1: it drove Russia to pull out of a treaty. We
31:30
Speaker 1: should have pulled out a long time ago. Now, how
31:34
Speaker 1: does Russia handle treatise? And this goes back to the
31:36
Speaker 1: philosophy we're talking about before. I believe in peace through strength.
31:41
Speaker 1: I think the way you avoid war. I am deeply
31:44
Speaker 1: anti war. The way you avoid war is you're so
31:48
Speaker 1: strong your enemies don't want to screw with you. Reagan
31:52
Speaker 1: understood this. Reagan rebuilt the military. Reagan took on the
31:56
Speaker 1: Soviet Union. Reagan denounced the Soviet Union as an evil empire.
32:01
Speaker 1: He said Marxism Leninism would end up on the ash
32:03
Speaker 1: heap of history. When he was asked, what's your strategy
32:06
Speaker 1: in the Cold War? He said, very simple, we win,
32:09
Speaker 1: they lose. All of the intellectual glitterati in Washington were
32:14
Speaker 1: horrified at this simpleton who didn't understand nuance. By the way,
32:20
Speaker 1: when it comes to China, we need a similar strategy
32:23
Speaker 1: to how we won the Cold War. And I have
32:25
Speaker 1: spent a decade laying out a strategy, just like Reagan
32:29
Speaker 1: articulated with the Soviet Union, a comprehensive strategy to stand
32:33
Speaker 1: up and defeat communist China in the years to come.
32:38
Speaker 1: With the Soviet Union. We entered a whole series of treaties,
32:43
Speaker 1: and let me cut to the chase. On every one
32:46
Speaker 1: of the arms controlled treaties. The Soviet Union and now Russia.
32:51
Speaker 1: They cheat, they lie, they cheat. Yeah, they're not honest people.
32:55
Speaker 1: They're never gonna be. They're gonna do whatever they can
32:57
Speaker 1: to get away with whatever they can get away with.
32:59
Speaker 1: By the way, you know, one of those agreements was
33:00
Speaker 1: something called the Budapest Memorandum. You know what the Budapest
33:03
Speaker 1: Memorandum was. So the United States in Russia are the
33:08
Speaker 1: top two countries in the world that have nuclear weapons.
33:10
Speaker 1: Do you know what the third country used to be?
33:14
Speaker 1: Was it? No, it used to be Ukraine. As part
33:17
Speaker 1: of the Soviet uk Ukraine had the third largest collection
33:21
Speaker 1: of nuclear weapons on the planet. Ukraine agreed to voluntarily
33:26
Speaker 1: give up all their nukes. So Ukraine took a bunch
33:29
Speaker 1: of nukes. It happened in the Soviet Union. It gave
33:31
Speaker 1: them all up. It has zero in exchange. The United
33:35
Speaker 1: States and Russia signed the Budapest Memorandum agreeing to protect
33:40
Speaker 1: the territorial integrity of Ukraine. So Russia signed the agreement saying, yep,
33:45
Speaker 1: we'll honor the borders of Ukraine, and you can see
33:49
Speaker 1: how much they're bound by that. Reagan famously said with
33:53
Speaker 1: the Soviet Union, trust, but verify with the treaties. I
33:59
Speaker 1: wouldn't need and trust. At this point we know that
34:02
Speaker 1: they're going to cheat. And so it's interesting. This is
34:04
Speaker 1: an issue I've been engaged in for a decade. So
34:06
Speaker 1: let's go back to twenty fourteen. Twenty fourteen when Russia
34:12
Speaker 1: invaded Ukraine the first time invaded Crimea, and it was
34:18
Speaker 1: very interesting. Putin then described it as perfectly legal, and
34:24
Speaker 1: he said, it writes an historical wrong in which Russia
34:28
Speaker 1: was robbed of its rightful claim to the Crimean peninsula
34:31
Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty four. But what's amazing it was President
34:35
Speaker 1: Obama's response to the invasion of Ukraine. Then he observed,
34:39
Speaker 1: this is a quote from Obama. President Putin seems to
34:42
Speaker 1: have a different set of lawyers making a different set
34:46
Speaker 1: of interpretations. What an imbecilic thing to say. What this
34:53
Speaker 1: was a clear violation that this was not about lawyers
34:57
Speaker 1: making an interpretation. Putin was very candidate. He has described
35:01
Speaker 1: the dissolution of the Soviet Union as quote, the greatest,
35:04
Speaker 1: greatest geopolitical disaster of the twentieth century, and he's made
35:08
Speaker 1: clear he wants to reassemble the Soviet Union. How did
35:12
Speaker 1: we win the Cold War? We stood up to the
35:13
Speaker 1: Soviet Union, we called it out for what it was.
35:16
Speaker 1: We built up our military, and then the peace that
35:18
Speaker 1: was transformational was SDI, the Strategic Defense Initiative. Reagan understood,
35:24
Speaker 1: we will use our technological advantage to develop missile defense,
35:29
Speaker 1: which ultimately is how we will beat the Soviets, and
35:34
Speaker 1: and by almost bankrupting them as part of it, we
35:36
Speaker 1: will go to the arms race, and we will even
35:39
Speaker 1: put out misinformation, star wars and everything else to the
35:42
Speaker 1: point where they just can't keep up financially, and it
35:44
Speaker 1: will weaken them so badly because we knew they were
35:47
Speaker 1: teetering economically, and we knew they couldn't afford to play
35:50
Speaker 1: with us. So SDI, the corrupt corporate media and the
35:53
Speaker 1: eighties derisively referred to it as star wars. Yeah, and
35:57
Speaker 1: you remember the analogy that they used to use of saying, okay,
36:00
Speaker 1: a missile interceptor hitting a missile, that's like a bullet
36:04
Speaker 1: hitting a bullet in air. They mocked it and said
36:06
Speaker 1: it's impossible. And Reagan had a vision that if we
36:10
Speaker 1: use our technology to take out their missiles, that's how
36:12
Speaker 1: we defeat them. And what happened. You look at Reikovic
36:15
Speaker 1: in in Iceland where where Gorbachov came and said he'll
36:20
Speaker 1: sign a big treaty if if you abandon SDI and
36:25
Speaker 1: Reagan got up and walked out said nope, if that's
36:28
Speaker 1: the price, no, and it ultimately bankrupted the Soviet Union.
36:32
Speaker 1: They couldn't keep up with the economic engine that developed
36:36
Speaker 1: the technology to defend us. Now, leftist being what they
36:41
Speaker 1: are on national security, they're wrong on everything. So missile defense,
36:46
Speaker 1: which is enormously important if you care about peace. If
36:48
Speaker 1: you care about peace. By the way, before missile defense,
36:52
Speaker 1: the strategy was mad mutually assured destruction. We both aim
36:55
Speaker 1: nukes at each other, and the only thing to stop
36:57
Speaker 1: you from firing nukes is we're both going to blow
36:59
Speaker 1: up the war and turn it into a glowing ash
37:01
Speaker 1: Cuban missile crisis in a nutshell, that is Democrat policy.
37:05
Speaker 1: And what Reagan understood is, look, let's use technology to
37:09
Speaker 1: stop their nukes from getting to us to begin with.
37:13
Speaker 1: So what did Obama do? Obama systematically undermine So for example,
37:17
Speaker 1: two thousand nine, Obama comes in. One of the first
37:19
Speaker 1: decisions he makes is to cancel plans for a ballistic
37:23
Speaker 1: missile defense system in Central Europe, plans that George W.
37:26
Speaker 1: Bushould announced. Obama promptly goes in and goes, Nope, no
37:29
Speaker 1: missile defense. We don't want to do that. You know,
37:34
Speaker 1: when he announced that he announced canceling the ballistic missile
37:39
Speaker 1: defense in Central Europe on the seventieth anniversary of the
37:44
Speaker 1: Soviet invasion of Poland September seventeenth, two thousand and nine,
37:49
Speaker 1: like literally groveling at a level if you're a Russian
37:56
Speaker 1: press agent, you wouldn't come up with a better time
37:59
Speaker 1: to announce sit And at the same time, he made
38:07
Speaker 1: enormous concessions on missile defense in the New Start Treaty,
38:12
Speaker 1: which was implemented in twenty eleven. So it's another Obama
38:14
Speaker 1: special and it initially was going to expire in twenty
38:18
Speaker 1: twenty one. And so I called for back in twenty fourteen,
38:24
Speaker 1: get out of New Start. Why because New Start limits
38:27
Speaker 1: our ability to defend ourselves against missiles and the Russians cheat. Yeah,
38:32
Speaker 1: the Russians cheat, and they cheat, and they cheat, and
38:34
Speaker 1: we knew they were cheating. We could verify they were cheating.
38:36
Speaker 1: So we tie our hands and the other side doesn't. Now,
38:41
Speaker 1: fast forward to twenty fifteen. Twenty fifteen, I called on
38:45
Speaker 1: the Obama administration to release the Department of Defense had
38:48
Speaker 1: done an assessment of how much Russia had cheated on
38:53
Speaker 1: the I n F Treaty, the Intermediate Nuclear Forces Treaty,
38:55
Speaker 1: another treaty that Russia was cheating wildly on. Dodd concluded,
39:00
Speaker 1: they're cheating wildly, and yet they suppressed the report. Why
39:04
Speaker 1: because they were trying to ram through New Start. So
39:07
Speaker 1: they didn't want to admit Russia's cheating on I n
39:09
Speaker 1: F because if they did, they wouldn't be able to
39:11
Speaker 1: get the New Start treat So that was twenty fifteen,
39:14
Speaker 1: all right. Then twenty eighteen, I joined with John Kyle
39:19
Speaker 1: and with twenty three additional senators in a letter to
39:22
Speaker 1: President Trump asking him to press back on New Start.
39:25
Speaker 1: That New Start was a terrible treaty. It had been extended,
39:31
Speaker 1: but it shouldn't have been, and we needed to get
39:34
Speaker 1: out of it. Why because the Russians cheat and it
39:38
Speaker 1: limits our ability to defend ourselves. Now, Trump on treatise
39:43
Speaker 1: did a good job pulling out of the I and
39:46
Speaker 1: F treaty, and he also pulled out of what's called
39:49
Speaker 1: the Open Skies Treaty, which prohibited our ability to basically
39:53
Speaker 1: do what the Chinese spy balloon was doing, to engage
39:56
Speaker 1: in surveillance on Russian sites. Mind you, they engaged in surveillance,
39:59
Speaker 1: and so literally we tied our hands and they openly
40:03
Speaker 1: mocked it and ignored it. I urged Trump pull out
40:06
Speaker 1: Open Skies. He did pull out of Open Skies on
40:10
Speaker 1: New Start. Unfortunately, Trump didn't pull out of it. He
40:13
Speaker 1: should have done that, but at a minimum, he didn't
40:16
Speaker 1: expand it, so that was good. He refrained from expanding it.
40:20
Speaker 1: What did Biden do when he gets in. One of
40:22
Speaker 1: the first things he did was expand New Start because
40:24
Speaker 1: there's nothing Democrats like more than a treaty that ties
40:28
Speaker 1: our hands, makes us weaker, and that lets the Russians
40:32
Speaker 1: and Chinese get stronger. Now here's an amazing thing. I'm
40:35
Speaker 1: going to read you a headline from January thirty first,
40:39
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, so not too long ago. US says
40:43
Speaker 1: Russia violating New Start nuclear arms control treaty. So finally,
40:48
Speaker 1: the Biden administration was forced to admit that Russia was
40:53
Speaker 1: in violation because, among other things, they refused to allow
40:57
Speaker 1: inspection activities on its territory. So they say, nope, you
41:00
Speaker 1: can't expect it, inspect it. By the way, this is
41:04
Speaker 1: the same problem with the Obama Iran nuclear treaty, where
41:10
Speaker 1: Obama trusted Iran to inspect itself, and under the terms
41:15
Speaker 1: of the treaty, the inspectors could not go into military facilities. Well,
41:19
Speaker 1: guess what. That's where the Iranians put their nuclear research
41:22
Speaker 1: in military facilities like Ford, oh a research lab buried
41:28
Speaker 1: in a mountain declared off limits. So this is a pattern.
41:33
Speaker 1: It's a pattern from Obama, it's a pattern from Biden.
41:36
Speaker 1: It's a pattern from Democrats that they enter into agreements
41:41
Speaker 1: that weaken the US militarily and that allow the Russians
41:45
Speaker 1: and also allow the Chinese, and also allow the Iranians
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Speaker 1: to cheat and build up their military. And if you
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Speaker 1: believe in peace through strength, you want the opposite. You
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Speaker 1: want us stronger and them weaker. The Biden approach, they're
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Speaker 1: stronger and where we can we knew we were in
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Speaker 1: trouble with foreign policy. And I go back to this
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Speaker 1: because I think the day that the world realized they
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Speaker 1: could do whatever they want to do. I'm referring to
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Speaker 1: the bad guys. Was the day that we started taking
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Speaker 1: orders from the Taliban in Afghanistan in our pull out.
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Speaker 1: And if you look at what's happened since then, Senator,
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Speaker 1: whether it be Russia, whether it be Iran, whether it
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Speaker 1: be China, that's the day when they said kick it
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Speaker 1: into high gear and let's do whatever the hell we
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Speaker 1: want to do right now, whether that be screw with
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Speaker 1: tie were on screw with America's spy balloons over America.
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Speaker 1: And as you said earlier, this didn't happen when Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump was present for a reason. Look, deterrence works, but
42:37
Speaker 1: deterrance only works if you're strong enough that they're afraid
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Speaker 1: of you. You know. The Democrats of the media like
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Speaker 1: to characterize Reagan as a warmonger. That was something you
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Speaker 1: heard constantly. He wasn't. The biggest country Reagan ever invaded
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Speaker 1: in eight years as president was Grenada, the Cold War,
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Speaker 1: which all of the smart liberals, and they would tell
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Speaker 1: you they're smart because they were wrong about everything. All
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Speaker 1: of the smart liberals said the Soviet Union could never
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Speaker 1: be defeated, said we had to give in the malaise.
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Speaker 1: We couldn't take on the Soviet Union, they were too strong.
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Speaker 1: All of that was nonsense. And here's the amazing thing.
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Speaker 1: Under Reagan's leadership, we won the Cold War without firing
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Speaker 1: a shot. Look, let me repeat that, because that's an
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Speaker 1: amazing thing. The Berlin compared to literally what Russia is
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Speaker 1: happening right now with Ukraine. How many missiles have been dropped,
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Speaker 1: how many people have died, how many people been tortured,
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Speaker 1: they found mass graves, and again, what randon there was.
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Speaker 1: Take all of that down in Russia without you, as
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Speaker 1: you said, firing one show. And if Biden hadn't waived
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Speaker 1: sanctions on Nordstream two, if he hadn't waived the sanctions
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Speaker 1: on Russian and Putin, there would be no Ukraine War.
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Speaker 1: Joseph Robinette Biden Junior caused this war because he was
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Speaker 1: so weak that Putin said, this guy is a paper
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Speaker 1: tiger and he's not even a tiger, he's just paper. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and he went in, We could have stopped it. And
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Speaker 1: it's not just me who said that. Zelenski said that
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Speaker 1: the government of Poland said that weakness is provocative. I've
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Speaker 1: joked before. There's a reason nobody goes and gets a
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Speaker 1: degree from the Neville Chamberlain School of Foreign Affairs. Appeasement,
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Speaker 1: particularly a bad actors, inevitably results in those bad actors
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Speaker 1: getting worse, and that has happened at historic levels in
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Speaker 1: the last two years underbody. This is one I love
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