Latest / Rose City Red Card / July 14, 2026: The Coffey-Sized Hole in Our Midfield
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- 0:15Welcome to Rose City Red Card, your Portland Thorns podcast.
- 0:21I am here.
- 0:23I am Alan, and with me is Marissa, and I'm going to have to make an apology here in a moment.
- 0:31Hello, I'm Marissa, and I, Thorns Groupie.
- 0:35I will be collecting Alan's tears after this podcast.
- 0:39I will be posting his name, birth date.
- 0:42It's the last four of his social.
- 0:43Mother's made a name in the show notes.
- 0:45So if you want to come after him, here we go.
- 0:48Perfect.
- 0:48You threatened to post my address earlier, but you missed it this time.
- 0:51Alan, I think you have an apology prepared.
- 0:53Everybody listen up.
- 0:55I have to apologize on a Thorns podcast that I helped start.
- 1:02I said, go Seattle, and the Thorns have not scored since.
- 1:10It was a rough, rough game.
- 1:12We watched it together.
- 1:13or at least, we watched half of it together, and then it was too painful.
- 1:19Got emotional.
- 1:20It got emotional.
- 1:23Yeah, so the thorns lost 2-0.
- 1:29What happened?
- 1:31I called it 2-1 the other direction.
- 1:362-0 is rough.
- 1:40So, Alan, you asked what happened.
- 1:42Let's talk about what didn't happen.
- 1:44That may be the key of this.
- 1:46story.
- 1:48The thorns didn't show up.
- 1:51They didn't show up.
- 1:52They weren't there.
- 1:53We could blame Alan, which I will continue to do for the rest of the season.
- 1:57Hold that to him.
- 1:58We could blame Alan.
- 1:59We could blame the field.
- 2:00At the end of the day, we did not show up.
- 2:02Well, blaming the field is a thing.
- 2:05We have won so many games in our own park, but whenever we're out, we just can't seem to get there.
- 2:14We have one of the worst roads, we have one of the worst.
- 2:17road.
- 2:18We do so badly on the road.
- 2:21We have not lost.
- 2:24I think you should pull it back to last season.
- 2:26A fact check on that here in a minute.
- 2:30But we don't lose.
- 2:31We've conceded.
- 2:33We've tied.
- 2:34But we don't lose at Providence Park.
- 2:37And we go three hours as well.
- 2:40You know, God dang.
- 2:41And that's what I'm saying.
- 2:43Yeah, we are unbeaten at Providence Park this year.
- 2:47We are all.
- 2:47All four losses that we've had were away.
- 2:49I know we're going to talk about the table later on.
- 2:52It's even worse.
- 2:53At Lumen Field, specifically, we've been there four straight visits, not without a win, without a goal.
- 3:02How?
- 3:04Is the stadium cursed?
- 3:08We're talking about it during the game.
- 3:11This was the last time that people have gotten to play on that grass, that World Cup.
- 3:17grass from earlier.
- 3:20And it's cool, too, because a lot of the other stadiums pulled the grass.
- 3:23So at least Seattle kept it for this game.
- 3:25They kept it.
- 3:25That was pretty cool.
- 3:26That was cool.
- 3:27I think that's cool.
- 3:28Are we too used to playing on turf?
- 3:31No.
- 3:31So there is, our training facility, they train on grass.
- 3:35But if you look at, I don't want to blame outside outliers.
- 3:39I mean, let's all blame Allen for the rest of the season and maybe next year.
- 3:42Don't forget about that.
- 3:42Of course.
- 3:43Don't forget about that.
- 3:43But we train on grass.
- 3:47We have grass fields for training.
- 3:49We don't necessarily just train at Providence Park the whole time.
- 3:52And before you get to a, before you go play, like players, when teams come to us, they have to practice on our turf because they have to get used to it.
- 3:59Turf skips.
- 4:00It doesn't, there's no give.
- 4:01You know what I mean?
- 4:02It's a different experience.
- 4:04But I think the Cascadia rivalry is deep.
- 4:10It is.
- 4:10It doesn't make sense.
- 4:13The lap, when we played them earlier in the season, we won two zero, down two players. That doesn't make sense.
- 4:20It's funky.
- 4:21We're going to get funky games.
- 4:21The chance on Reddit were fantastic.
- 4:23We beat you two down.
- 4:26I don't remember exactly what it was, but it was fantastic.
- 4:29We beat you by nine. We beat you by nine.
- 4:31Yeah.
- 4:32That was funny until it wasn't.
- 4:36But things get funky.
- 4:38Like, this is a team.
- 4:40Like, this is, I don't want to say it's our Super Bowl because ultimately we want to win the league, but each fan base will tell you.
- 4:47you, it's like, well, shit, we didn't have a good season. We didn't make playoffs, but we beat the fucking thorns or we beat fucking Seattle. Like, it's big. You know what I mean? It's a huge rivalry.
- 4:56And every team is going to play their heart out. Like, every time, this game means so much.
- 5:01Like, have you seen the, seen all the clips? Like, Seattle was posted, they had their, the sounders and the, and the rain posting, they had a bonfire and they were burning roses and all that stuff. Like, it goes deep. It's a big deal.
- 5:16We have a whole chance.
- 5:17you know what I mean? Like, it goes deep, and so I feel like those games are...
- 5:20This is one of the big rivalries.
- 5:22It's true. I mean, they try to make all these other rivalries in the thing, like California Derby, like, blah, blah, blah. This is the rivalry. Like, it is the biggest rivalry in the oldest rivalry in our week. You know what I mean? And it's passionate and it's funky. And I think what we got was a funky game. We did. And, you know, we've seen it both ways now. We beat them.
- 5:45In a funky way. In a funky way.
- 5:47They beat us in a funky way. And, you know, maybe that's the future of this rivalry. We'll have to see what happens in the next game. Yeah. I mean, it's, something's got to change, Alan. We came out flat-footed. We didn't have it in us. Like, we had a lot of shots. We had so many shots, even shots on goal. 26 shots. 26 shots, 10 on target. Zero goals.
- 6:17Also, you know, this would be a different conversation if we, if you thought that Claudia Dickie was in goal, who's the shoe in for the number one goalkeeper for USA. But it wasn't. They had their second string goalie in. And she played like a fucking rock star, honestly. And I don't want to discredit the rain, even though fuck Seattle. But, like, I'm just kind of discrediting them. If they were a better team, the score would have been 6-0. Remember those plays that we watched when They were, like, their players were outside of the 18, and they cut it wrong or a bad touch.
- 6:50It was so close.
- 6:52I've never, players have bad games.
- 6:55But as a team, even so, mulchry, Tordon, Flem, Vig, M.A. Vignola, like, our goalie, everybody, Mueller, everybody was lagging.
- 7:08It seemed.
- 7:09It didn't seem like we were playing cohesively.
- 7:11No, no, not at all.
- 7:13We were playing on our heels, and it was so.
- 7:15So in our faces.
- 7:17It was not what we were asking for.
- 7:22All right. So, the Brown scored in the eighth minute.
- 7:25Brown.
- 7:25And then Mercado scored in the 43rd minute.
- 7:28It was Brown's first goal in the league.
- 7:30Congratulations.
- 7:32Brown. Whatever.
- 7:34But eight minutes into the game, eight minutes into a 45-minute half.
- 7:39It started the game on the wrong side.
- 7:42You know what I mean?
- 7:43And then, like, what were we doing for warm-ups?
- 7:46Like, how did this?
- 7:46What happened for every single player to be lax?
- 7:50Were we going into the game thinking, like, well, we just beat this team, two zero, nine players down?
- 7:55Is this going to be nothing?
- 7:56Did we just walk into it?
- 7:57Because me personally, I'm a fucking Thorntz fan.
- 8:00I'm always high.
- 8:02I'm always living my life.
- 8:03I'm always like, fuck you, we're better, you know?
- 8:06And this was kind of humbling, you know?
- 8:09Like, it was really humbling.
- 8:11It was.
- 8:12We didn't show up.
- 8:14I mean, like, can we?
- 8:15We've talked about, Oh, we've talked about how the thorns are a second-half team.
- 8:21It takes us a little while to get going.
- 8:23It takes us a while to get our heads together and actually be able to cooperate.
- 8:32And, I mean, I only scored their two goals.
- 8:35No.
- 8:35We ever got there this week.
- 8:37No.
- 8:37We kept doing the same things.
- 8:40We kept playing individual games and not playing as a team.
- 8:45Exactly.
- 8:45Exactly. We couldn't connect a pass.
- 8:47And it's almost like, usually if everyone's slow, you'll have our, okay, so our attack is great, and we know that, but we're missing cohesion from our forwards, our midfield, and our defense.
- 9:00We need cohesion on three levels.
- 9:02And McKenzie Arnold, baby girl, please don't play with the ball at your foot.
- 9:07She once gave up that goal.
- 9:08She's just, some players, some goalies just can't do that, and that's fine.
- 9:13But, okay, sorry, let's circle back.
- 9:14I'm getting ahead of myself.
- 9:15We need cohesion with the forwards, with the midfields, and with the defense.
- 9:21Our midfields and our forwards work together so well.
- 9:26The way Tordon passes with Sof, Moultrie, works out so well.
- 9:31I mean, our attack, we're first in the league in attacking, which is crazy.
- 9:34Even after the weekend we had, we're still ranked number one with our attack in the whole league.
- 9:41But our midfield with our defense, there were times that Seattle had a quick turnaround.
- 9:47They would send a ball over, and they would show the screen, and you would only see our four defenders.
- 9:51There would be no midfielder's back at all.
- 9:55And so you're just four defenders back, and that's why the name of our, the title of the podcast today is we are, we are, there is a hole that is shaped like Sam Coffey in our midfield, and it is extremely apparent.
- 10:10It is right there on our faces, the goalie, I mean, I mean, I mean, Our coach, our players.
- 10:16Our coach called it.
- 10:17Somebody in Man City knows about it.
- 10:19Sam can see it from there.
- 10:21She knows.
- 10:22What are we going to do?
- 10:24What can we do about this?
- 10:26We need to sign a solid six.
- 10:29I know that we need a centerback and we need defense, but a solid six is a defensive midfielder.
- 10:36There is somebody that can stick.
- 10:38So we have our four defenders right here at the back.
- 10:42And so a six is right here.
- 10:43and the other three midfielers are up here.
- 10:46Our six is basically defense, but can go this way.
- 10:49But she would be the one molding back.
- 10:51Hey, Moultry, come back here.
- 10:53Or no, hey, go this way.
- 10:54She's talking.
- 10:55She's the one who can communicate between the players.
- 10:58She's the clue between the defense and the midfield.
- 11:00And right now, we don't have anything like that.
- 11:02You need somebody managing the field.
- 11:03And also, like, God damn, Sam Coffey's one of the best sixes in the fucking world.
- 11:08I would probably say that she's in the top five of defensive midfielers in the the world, Alan.
- 11:15And now she's gone.
- 11:17And that's a huge hole.
- 11:19And yeah, it's getting, like, Tordin and Flem and Moultrie have time to shine.
- 11:23But our defense is shit.
- 11:25Because, like, you need communication.
- 11:28There's four defenders, but midfield gets back, and we're just not doing that.
- 11:32And it's so apparent, and it's so in everybody's faces.
- 11:35And what we're doing is, like, our coach knows it.
- 11:38He literally, that's where we got our title from.
- 11:41Our coach said it in the post-game presser.
- 11:43And, and.
- 11:43We are not, we're not, we're not, we have the money.
- 11:48Let's get somebody in.
- 11:49We just, we just, uh, we just, uh, we just got a, uh, J, S-T-A-D.
- 11:53Nina Nijstada.
- 11:55Yeah, Nina Nijstada.
- 11:56Nijstada.
- 11:57Nijstad?
- 11:58I, I, I, I believe.
- 11:59I know the J is J.
- 12:00Hey, my, my last name is, uh, Dutch and originally had an I-J in it.
- 12:06Uh, so I, I believe it is Knight.
- 12:08Mr. Worldwide.
- 12:10Uh, this is, this is like the first time I've ever had a chance.
- 12:13to use that knowledge, but, uh, Nightshad, I believe, uh, if I'm wrong on that, it's my heritage that's at fault.
- 12:21She doesn't start regularly for the Dutch team, which is not a great sign.
- 12:28She, it's hard to find, she plays for a Dutch league, which is great, which is great.
- 12:34She's going to be phenomenal in two to three years.
- 12:36We don't need that now.
- 12:38We need a complete player now.
- 12:40We don't need, we have a bunch of players that are great now.
- 12:43that are building. We don't need that now. We need somebody that's finished, not finished growing, but we need somebody now. We need somebody now that can be good for us. We need somebody to fill that hole in the meantime. Nothing, nothing's going to fill Sam Coffee hole.
- 13:04Anyways, nothing. Brooke is like, you guys belong in jail. We'll keep that in. Yeah, but nothing is going to fill that hole. Nothing can. She's a one of a kind player. You know what I mean? Sam Coffey's a one kind player. But we need to start, and we are not starting with that. We're moving our defense around. We're getting people playing in different positions, like we said, being like repetitive. Now, like, our defense, if we play the same lineup every game, they would know, okay, you get used to this. It's like, okay, well, she can't, she doesn't track back as fast, and she likes this ball. She likes this. She likes this. That works out.
- 13:39But we're not. They're starting different defenders all the time. Muehler, we're playing her at wing sometimes. Reyes.
- 13:45We don't have the consistency.
- 13:47Exactly. And Reyes, that's another thing. It's like, Reyes is hugely missed.
- 13:52She is a rock for us back there. And not having her, we kind of fall apart.
- 13:57You know, and not fall apart, but she's just huge for our defense and it's lacking.
- 14:02Like, you, and even men, like, I'm saying, like, we have great attackers.
- 14:08Goose, we scored zero. You know what I mean? Like, there's only so much.
- 14:13Like, where's the line? We all just played, it was just not a, it was, it was the worst game I've seen us play since last season.
- 14:24It was a rough game to watch.
- 14:26So it sounds like we have holes. We need to fill them.
- 14:31And we will get into that here in a minute when we talk about the trade window, which we've been talking about and getting wrong.
- 14:40But hopefully this time, we've got our information correct.
- 14:47All right.
- 14:48brings us to what are you drinking today? All right. So I am drinking a space dust IPA.
- 14:57I decided to go for the formerly fantastic Elysian, one of my favorite breweries, now Anheuser-Busch.
- 15:06But you know what? It's still okay. I'll drink it. And Rosa, what are you drinking?
- 15:12Alan is classing it up, as he always is. I am messing with our average because I am drinking well vodka.
- 15:19Roe vodka again?
- 15:21Baby boy, it's Rose City. It's Rose City vodka. Come on.
- 15:24Rose City vodka. Fuck yeah.
- 15:27What are you drinking some Seattle beer?
- 15:29No, I just...
- 15:29Oh shit. Oh. And I'm dragging it. I'm dragging him. It's okay. I'm already collecting his tears. It's okay, you guys. It's cool.
- 15:36Wow. Oh, I didn't even think about that.
- 15:38I'll be dragging you for four or five years. We're good. We're good. We're good. We're good.
- 15:42That was the wrong decision for me to make tonight.
- 15:44That's showbiz.
- 15:51All right, Marissa. So that brings us to talking about the table.
- 15:54we were really, really hoping that this game was going to bring Portland into the first.
- 16:01We went in third at 27 points and a win was going to get us 30 points and bring us into the first.
- 16:08But that's not what happened.
- 16:11Especially, so it was rivalry weekend all weekend, you know?
- 16:15And L.A. was playing San Diego.
- 16:19Everybody obviously thought L.A. was going to lose to San Diego, L.A. was going to lose to San Diego, L.A.
- 16:24just caught, just fired their coach.
- 16:26San Diego's been on a tear.
- 16:28And you know what happened?
- 16:29San Diego got their asses beat by L.A.
- 16:32So they did not score any points.
- 16:33We did not score any points.
- 16:35The only people that went up in points were the Washington Spirit.
- 16:37Thankfully, they were lower.
- 16:38So now we are tied with 27 points with the spirit.
- 16:42San Diego remains at the top with 28 points.
- 16:45And there's a, holy crazy.
- 16:48There's a three-way tie between Gotham, Utah, and Casey, current for third.
- 16:52Okay, so it's really close to the top.
- 16:54seeing some really good rivalry, some good competition here.
- 16:58And we're just, this is, we're only at the middle of the season, man.
- 17:02We still have a whole other half season to go.
- 17:04There's going to be tons of movement.
- 17:06I just, I really hope, we do well at home, but we can't play all of our games at the Providence Park.
- 17:13We really need to, we really need to fill these holes.
- 17:16That's it for the table talk.
- 17:17My bad, baby.
- 17:19Okay.
- 17:19Well, so with that, Seattle is climbing.
- 17:23They're in 10th.
- 17:24They're still down there, but are we worried?
- 17:27Are they coming back?
- 17:28Is this the start of something for them?
- 17:30So, honestly, Seattle, fuck Seattle, but they have not, their losses, they're not a bad team.
- 17:38They are not losing in these, they're not getting humiliated.
- 17:42They're losing by small margins.
- 17:44They don't look terrible.
- 17:46So that's why all these different games, like, that's why our league is so fun is the parody.
- 17:51Like, we lost to racing Louisville, the bottom of the table.
- 17:53the bottom of the table, 3-1 last month.
- 17:55And now we've just beat them 4-0.
- 17:57That's something we've always talked about with this league is how you never know what's going to happen.
- 18:03Each game is a new game.
- 18:05Things can change.
- 18:07Everything can turn around so fast.
- 18:09Especially with this rivalry weekend.
- 18:11Like this is, you got San Diego playing L.A.
- 18:13Like, these are big, this is big moments.
- 18:17Like, these players, they're new to the team, but this history goes back 10, 12 years.
- 18:22Like, this is.
- 18:23is important. They're going to play with a lot more heart than they maybe would have, you know?
- 18:27Absolutely. It's exciting to see what's going to happen. You know, we're, how far into the season are we? We just hit that kind of the halfway point? And Mike, wrong about that?
- 18:40So, matches played. Yeah, we're a little bit longer than, so we're at 15 matches played.
- 18:47And there's a 30-game regular season. So we are, so we are right in the middle of it.
- 18:52We are right in the middle.
- 18:53so we still have time you know we're still up there we just we need to learn how to play outside of our own field yeah yeah exactly and we need to sign big names we have the money we the owners show that they want to spend the money like today was day one nothing happened we did sign a dutch player i don't see her changing changing our team a lot That brings us to the window, the transfer window that we have been talking about since our first episode and getting wrong.
- 19:34It's actually open now. Okay. So that brings us to Portland. What do we need to bring in during this window?
- 19:42We have a chance. There's transfers open. We can get somebody. But bringing us back to the title of our episode, who do we need? What hold? Whose hold do we need to fill?
- 19:56Just kidding. We need Sam coffee hole to be filled. No one's going to fill it. She is a phenomenal player, one of the best sixes in the fucking world. No one's going to fill that hole. But somebody needs to come close. We don't need a player that can grow in two years and be as good as we need in two years. We need that player now. I don't know. It doesn't need a, actually no, we need a marquee player. We need somebody that's the best what they do now. We have the fucking money. We have the skill. We have the team. We have the history. Come play for Portland. We have a new.
- 20:26We have a brand new training facility. Come play for Portland. We need that.
- 20:31We have it. We need the glue. We have. So that, that is the important bit there, is we need somebody who can communicate across the team. That's a hard position to pull in from outside. Somebody who needs to be cohesive with everyone, be able to communicate with everyone and coordinate what's happening on the field.
- 20:51That's not an easy position to feel. Because also, Sam was our captain, too. So she's the six, but she's also our captain. So she was glue, glue. Like, and like I said, nothing's going to replace that, and that's fine. People leave. That's great. I'm so happy watching her play for City. I have another, I have a WSL team that I can follow now.
- 21:10That's great. I love her. They won the league.
- 21:12Fuck yeah, Sam Coffee. Love you, girl.
- 21:14But we need somebody to fill those shoes. Somebody's not going to fill them all the way, but somebody can be a good six for us. And right now, we're not doing it. We need the glue.
- 21:24Come to Portland.
- 21:26We will see how the window goes, and if we can get there.
- 21:29So that brings us to the end of our show.
- 21:32Next week, we are at Denver on Saturday.
- 21:36I keep wanting to say Sunday. I don't know why.
- 21:38Christ's Day.
- 21:40They just drew 2-2-2 at home to Houston after leading twice.
- 21:46And everybody keeps floating them for Sophia Wilson.
- 21:52How is this going to be for us?
- 21:54I think it's going to be exciting.
- 21:56This is our first game against one of the expansion teams.
- 22:01Denver and Boston are new to this league this year.
- 22:04It's the first time we're going to be playing versus one of the expansion teams.
- 22:08We're one of the original teams. We're playing one of the newer teams.
- 22:11It's exciting.
- 22:12It is.
- 22:12We are playing a mile high into the air.
- 22:16That's going to be crazy.
- 22:17That's a big difference for our players.
- 22:18That is a big physical difference.
- 22:20We low down here at the river.
- 22:22We low in Portland.
- 22:23But, Alan, I don't know.
- 22:29last weekend. I think if the thorns show up, what kind of version of thorns are we going to get?
- 22:34I think if we can show up, then we're going to pull off a win.
- 22:38And absolutely, if we can show up and be the thorns that we all know our ladies are and who we can play like, we're going to win. But also they're an expansion team. They're fighting for a lot more, you know? They are. And you know what? We will see how it goes.
- 22:54And we will join you next week as soon as we get a chance after watching the game. We will record our thoughts and send it out to all of you. Also, would you guys like like a live episode? I mean, not like a live thing, but would you guys like to hear clips about that stuff? Or, you know, let us know. Let us know. Rose City Red Card at gmail.com. And we will, we will answer any email that you send us, no matter what you send us. Yes. Send us emails.
- 23:23Please do. That brings us to the end of the show.
- 23:27I'm Marissa.
- 23:28I'm Alan.
- 23:29This is Roe City Red Car.
- 23:30Go Thorns.
- 23:32Fuck Seattle.
- 23:35No injuries.
- 23:36All smiles.
- 23:37Let's go.
- 23:38Go Thorns.