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Police Chief Drops BOMBSHELL on Illinois Crime Crisis · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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Speaker 1: She would be alive if he was turned over to
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Speaker 1: Ice and deported. That's a fact. There's no distuting that.
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Speaker 1: Or imagine being the parents who were told that information
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Speaker 1: that your daughter would have never crossed path with this
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Speaker 1: idiot if he had been turned over to Ice and
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Speaker 1: set back to his country.
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Speaker 2: Everybody, thanks so much for joining us right here for
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Speaker 2: another episode of The Right View. And joining us now
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Speaker 2: is retired police chief in the Illinois Police Department, Tom Whitzel. Tom,
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Thank you for serving your community.
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Speaker 2: We love our men and women in blue. But I
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Speaker 2: would love to get your take because you had nearly
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Speaker 2: four decades of law enforcement experience, and I'm curious how
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Speaker 2: you have personally maybe witnessed the rise in violent crime
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Speaker 2: across Illinois, particularly in Chicago and the suburbs surrounding Chicago.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for having me. First off, and absolutely so, Illinois.
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Speaker 1: The crime is really out of control, and if you
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Speaker 1: look at the Chicago metro area and crowning the suburbs
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Speaker 1: that are around Chicago, which is where I've policed in
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Speaker 1: it's crazy and it's just complete lawlessness and chaos. And
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Speaker 1: that's not an exaggeration. I mean it's every single day,
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Speaker 1: neighborhoods are being terrorized at the shot up and there's homicides, murders, carjackings,
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Speaker 1: and it's a result of what's going on in Springfield, Illinois,
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Speaker 1: which is our capital. I have legislation that they're passing
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Speaker 1: to curb policing or take tools away from police officers.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it seems so crazy. You know, you hear
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Speaker 2: about these things happening, and I think a lot of
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Speaker 2: people around the country hear about it. But when these
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Speaker 2: folks actually live in these communities have to deal with
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Speaker 2: this day in and day out, I can't imagine how
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Speaker 2: frustrating it must be for them. I'm sure you have
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Speaker 2: statistics on your side, you know you've witnessed it. But
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Speaker 2: what do this the statistics show in terms of trends
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Speaker 2: for homicide, shootings, carjackings, violent crime and Illinois over the
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, if you looked at the crime stats
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Speaker 1: novel Chicago at least will put out that their crime
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Speaker 1: stats are pretty much down, but they're comparing them to
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Speaker 1: times either pre pandemic or during the pandemic. So that's real,
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, truly not there. And also Illinois has
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Speaker 1: done something that almost all communities across the United States
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Speaker 1: have done, the state reclassified crimes. So I'd be very
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Speaker 1: suspicious about data when it comes to crime stats because
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Speaker 1: what's happened is they've taken crimes that were reportable to
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Speaker 1: the FBI before and they'd lessened those two misdemeanors are
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Speaker 1: non reportable, So it looks like crime is down, when
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Speaker 1: what's happened is they've change their reporting mechanism to actually
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Speaker 1: report crimes. So I encourage all of your listeners take
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Speaker 1: crime stats with it gram salt, because there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of fudging going on, in my opinion, across the United States,
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Speaker 1: especially here in the Chicago area.
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Speaker 2: We saw that happen during President Trump's first term. I
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Speaker 2: remember a lot of and we've seen it happen time
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Speaker 2: and time again. You have these local leaders who don't
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Speaker 2: want those crimes stats obviously working against them, but then
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Speaker 2: they implement policies that are totally insane. What do you
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Speaker 2: think is maybe the single biggest shift you've seen caused
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Speaker 2: by these liberal politicians and their policies in how law
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Speaker 2: enforcement operates there in Illinois. You talked about how they've
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Speaker 2: kind of been changing things around.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. The biggest piece of legislation that they have ever
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Speaker 1: passed in the online when it comes to crime is
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Speaker 1: what they call Safety Act, which is the pre Trial
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Speaker 1: Fairness Act. There's no safety involved in it. It is
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Speaker 1: the worst piece of legislation ever to come out of
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Speaker 1: Springfield for law enforcement policing it any safety. People say
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Speaker 1: it's a revolving door to let criminals out. It's not
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Speaker 1: a revolving door. There's no door at all. It's just
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Speaker 1: a flood. And these are facts. These are they're they're
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Speaker 1: letting out individuals who either are released from the police
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Speaker 1: station and never go to bond court because there is
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Speaker 1: no bond court, or they put them on electronic monitoring.
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Speaker 1: And we're talking extremely violent individuals who are repeat offenders
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Speaker 1: of child sex offenses, armed robbery, shooting, stabbings, beating police officers.
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Speaker 1: And I know there's people listening to this and it'll say,
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Speaker 1: do they really let out individuals that are arrested for
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Speaker 1: firing a gun actually shooting somebody? And there is they
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Speaker 1: do let those people out on electronic monitoring at times
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Speaker 1: and sometimes no guidance at all. And it's actually happening
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Speaker 1: here at Gollanoi under the Safety Act.
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Speaker 2: And so is that Safety Act? Does that have to
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Speaker 2: do with with cashless bail essentially? Is that? Is it
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Speaker 2: kind of all combined?
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Speaker 1: Yes? You know, how did the governor Pritzker. All they
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Speaker 1: wanted to do is make headlines nationally. They wanted to
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Speaker 1: be the first state to say they got cash list bail,
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Speaker 1: Like there's no bail anymore. Everyone is entitled, no matter
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Speaker 1: what the crime is, initially to be released on some
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Speaker 1: type of no cash or electronic monitoring. They use electronic
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Speaker 1: monitory exclusively in Illinois when there isn't any manpower to
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Speaker 1: monitor them. It's really crazy, So they put ankle monitors
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Speaker 1: on people on the Sheriffs in the counties throughout Illinois
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Speaker 1: have stated publicly they don't have the personnel to follow
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Speaker 1: these individuals that are on the electronic monitory. So it's
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Speaker 1: a complete fiesco.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you couple that sort of policy with things like,
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Speaker 2: you know the fact that you have basically a sanctuary
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Speaker 2: state in Illinois and sanctuary city policies they're in Chicago.
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Speaker 2: Look at a young woman like Shardan Gorman, who lost
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Speaker 2: her life due to those policies. It just seems like
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Speaker 2: a complete recipe for disaster. And you know, this stuff
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Speaker 2: has real impact on real people who live in these areas,
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Speaker 2: who live in Chicago, who live in the suburbs. And
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Speaker 2: I'm curious from your perspective what you've seen in that space,
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Speaker 2: because obviously I'm saying Shardan Gorman, this is a young
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Speaker 2: woman who lost her life thanks to these horrible policies
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Speaker 2: and just dumb leadership. You know, it's not that hard
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Speaker 2: to understand that whenever you don't punish criminals, whenever you
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Speaker 2: incentivize people who have already broken our laws to be
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Speaker 2: in your communities, you're probably going to have some issues.
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Speaker 2: What have you seen though in your thirty seven years, Tom.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really bad with the sanctuary state and the
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Speaker 1: sanctuary city policies. And you mentioned Sheridan Gorman, and I
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Speaker 1: tell you you should remember that they had him in
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Speaker 1: custody the offender before so here. He was arrested for
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Speaker 1: retail theft and the Chicago Police Department was banned from
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Speaker 1: turning him over to Ice because of the sanctuary policies.
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Speaker 1: So if they had turned to him over to Ice,
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Speaker 1: Shardon Gorman's and that individual's paths would have never crossed.
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Speaker 1: So anybody that thinks that that's not true, she would
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Speaker 1: be alive if he was turned over to Ice and deported.
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Speaker 1: That's a fact. There's no disputing that. The or imagine
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Speaker 1: being the parents who were told that information that your
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Speaker 1: daughter would have never crossed path with this idiot if
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Speaker 1: he had been turned over to Ice and set back
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Speaker 1: to his country. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And you know it's interesting whenever you listen to Sheridan's parents,
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Speaker 2: they say themselves, Look, we never imagined that we would
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Speaker 2: be people who'd be speaking out about anything political. But
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Speaker 2: when you have these dumb policies, when you have bad policies,
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Speaker 2: bad things happen, and they no longer have their daughter.
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Speaker 2: I couldn't imagine. I feel so sad for that family.
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Speaker 2: But I'm curious how it is that these people keep
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Speaker 2: getting elected, these Democrats with the bad policies keep getting elected.
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Speaker 2: Do you think Tom, people there in Illinois are going
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Speaker 2: to stop ignoring the obvious? Are they going to stop
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Speaker 2: voting for Democrats? There is there enough frustration that maybe
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Speaker 2: people start to realize they've been voting the wrong way.
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Speaker 1: You know, I do feel that there's frustration building when
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Speaker 1: it comes to the Safety Act and different criminal law
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Speaker 1: acts that they have here at Illinois. I mean, the
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Speaker 1: community is being devastated, our minority communities. Let's let's be
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Speaker 1: honest here, this is what is happening. And day after
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Speaker 1: day and week after week it's being devastation is happening.
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Speaker 1: So I'm feeling this frustration coming now Springfield. If you
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Speaker 1: ask the politicians, they're going to say that, you know,
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Speaker 1: the Springfield is going to be controlled by Democrats forever.
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Speaker 1: That's what they want to happen. But I'm telling you,
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Speaker 1: in the neighborhoods and people that are victims of these
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Speaker 1: violent crimes, sometimes over and over again, and then they
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Speaker 1: see that they're offenders that either stabbed, shot, or killed
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Speaker 1: their loved ones are being released or being released on
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Speaker 1: electronic monitoring or getting these ridiculous policies Illinois has for
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Speaker 1: good time. Like the minute you walk into prison in Illinois,
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Speaker 1: you get fifty percent off your set is right right away,
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Speaker 1: and you get and then you get day for day
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Speaker 1: good time when you're not you haven't even been put
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Speaker 1: in the system yet, and you get time for being
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Speaker 1: held in custody before you setenced. So all these policies,
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Speaker 1: which are democratic policies, people are getting frustrated. So I
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Speaker 1: would hope that there would be a turnaround here at
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Speaker 1: Illinois because it's the crime that's pushing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious. You know, every election has consequences. This
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Speaker 2: is why, you know, I keep telling people they really
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Speaker 2: do have to take these midterm elections as seriously as
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Speaker 2: they took the twenty twenty four presidential election because this
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Speaker 2: stuff has real impact. We're talking about what's going on
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Speaker 2: in Illinois and Chicago, and it affects real people's lives.
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Speaker 2: But everyone has the opportunity to make that change by
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Speaker 2: going to the voting booth and voting people in who
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Speaker 2: have the policies that will keep you safe. If you
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Speaker 2: could deliver a message to Illinois residents, you know, just
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Speaker 2: everyday people out there right now who just want to
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Speaker 2: have a good life and keep their families safe, what
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Speaker 2: message would you give them, Because I don't think they
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Speaker 2: realize a lot of times they say, oh, I'm not
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Speaker 2: going to go vote in this. I'm not going to
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Speaker 2: wait in line. It's not worth it. These things matter
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Speaker 2: and it is absolutely worth it. You have the power
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Speaker 2: in your own hands to determine the destiny for your
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Speaker 2: city and your state.
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Speaker 1: Right, You're right. Elections matter, and you know this is
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Speaker 1: about quality of life issues. This is this is about
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Speaker 1: your quality of life. So you need to vote. You
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Speaker 1: get to do your research. You have to vote for
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Speaker 1: individuals that are encourage public safety, fund public safety are
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Speaker 1: not taking tools away from law enforcement. Shortly, law enforcement
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Speaker 1: needs to be oversea. There needs to be accountability. Nobody
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Speaker 1: argues that. We're talking about ridiculous legislation and policies that
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Speaker 1: handcuffed police from doing their job. They're making police instead
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Speaker 1: of being proactive. Police has become a liability and police
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Speaker 1: officers are fleeing the state of Illinois. I was just
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Speaker 1: reading the story the other day that over six hundred
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Speaker 1: police officers have left the states of California and Illinois
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Speaker 1: together for Florida.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Well, the governor down in Florida has made it very
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Speaker 2: appetizing for law enforcement to come down there. That's a
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Speaker 2: welcome thing. It's so sad to see because again, we're
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Speaker 2: so grateful for the men and women who leave home
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Speaker 2: every single day go out do a tough job they
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Speaker 2: don't know what their day is going to bring, Their families,
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Speaker 2: don't know if they're going to see them again at
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Speaker 2: the end of the day. We couldn't live in our
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Speaker 2: incredible country without our law enforcement officers. And to see
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Speaker 2: them fleeing places where they're really needed, Tom Lake in Chicago,
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Speaker 2: in Illinois and in California's that is so sad. But
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Speaker 2: having been part of the police department there in Illinois,
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Speaker 2: I'm sure you've seen a lot of horrible things, but
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Speaker 2: you also must have seen some really good things. And
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Speaker 2: just to end maybe on a high note, I'm curious
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Speaker 2: in your thirty seven years, was there anything or are
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Speaker 2: there any stories that kind of you think about from
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Speaker 2: time to time that you know, maybe something good happened
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Speaker 2: when it could have been bad, or things that bring
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Speaker 2: you hope or that people out there can hold on to.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you this profession is still a profession
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Speaker 1: I love. There's people that have asked me repeatedly because
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Speaker 1: all my adult children are police officers here in the
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Speaker 1: nature areas. So if I have three boys, they're all
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Speaker 1: police officers, all with over ten years on the job.
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Speaker 1: You know, my wife would have liked them to be
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Speaker 1: an accountant like she is, but all police officers. But
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't recommend the profession if I didn't believe in it,
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Speaker 1: and I did honor it and I didn't think it
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Speaker 1: was the best. So I back up what i'd say,
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Speaker 1: and I'll also tell you your listeners. You may or
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Speaker 1: may not know this. I was shot in the line
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Speaker 1: of duty early in my career in nineteen eighty seven,
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Speaker 1: and my life was saved only because of the bull
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Speaker 1: proof best. And I had people tell me give up
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Speaker 1: the profession, tim You're not you know, this is crazy,
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Speaker 1: You're not going anywhere. And my wife wanted me to
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Speaker 1: quit too, But you know what, I stuck with it.
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Speaker 1: I love the profession. I like serving people, I like
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Speaker 1: serving in government, and I rose all the way up
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Speaker 1: to be the police chief in Riverside, Illinois. So I
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Speaker 1: had this story of like, I'm not quitting, I'm not
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Speaker 1: putting it at this is what I was trained to do.
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Speaker 1: So and my kids, like I said, all my adult
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Speaker 1: kids are police officers. And sometimes police officers say why bother? Nowadays,
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Speaker 1: because they're not getting support from our politicians, they say,
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Speaker 1: why bother? Why do I bother? Even aggressively being on patrol.
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Speaker 1: Why do I bother to do self initiated activity Because
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Speaker 1: it's the best job in the world. It's most honorable
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Speaker 1: profession I know, and I'm certainly going to keep pushing
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Speaker 1: that and telling me young adults, if you're looking for
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Speaker 1: a really good career, you should come into law enforce.
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Speaker 1: We need you, We need young new officers.
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Speaker 2: Yes, we need good people willing to do a tough job,
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Speaker 2: but obviously an incredibly rewarding job. At the end of
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Speaker 2: the day. I'm sure Tom no two days and your
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Speaker 2: entire career were exactly alike, and there's something really amazing
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Speaker 2: about that and knowing what a positive impact you're making
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Speaker 2: on so many people's lives, so on behalf of all
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Speaker 2: of us out there in the entire country. Thanks so
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Speaker 2: much for your service, and thanks for inspiring the next generation.
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Speaker 2: You can't do better than your own kids following in
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Speaker 2: your law enforcement footstep. So that's pretty good stuff. Tom Whitezel,
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Speaker 2: We appreciate you taking the time for us today. Thank
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Speaker 2: you so much, and keep up the good fight working
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Speaker 2: hard to make sure that Illinois goes the right direction
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Speaker 2: as well.
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Speaker 4: step back and say, Okay, they won tried to erase women.
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Speaker 3: They can't define a woman.
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Speaker 4: They want to call people who breastfeed chest feeders. You know,
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Speaker 4: it is all about the language, and it's not just
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Speaker 4: some fad. You can go back in history and see
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Speaker 4: and this is right into the rules for radical Sololensky,
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Speaker 4: the communist takeover. They are strategically working to undermine and
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Speaker 4: change our language.
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Speaker 3: Because if they can drive the narrative, then they can
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Speaker 3: drive the policy and the politics. And this is very
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Speaker 3: nineteen eighty four.
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Speaker 4: If you look at authoritarian regimes throughout history, they have
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Speaker 4: always referred to the state as the mother, right, like
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Speaker 4: Mother Russia, and you see elements where they're trying to
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Speaker 4: dismantle and discredit and undermine the family unit. And I
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Speaker 4: all of these efforts, which is simply that if they
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Speaker 4: can undermine the family, and they can undermine the individual,
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Speaker 4: really starts to lay bare their agenda to just create
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Speaker 3: That's what I think the root of this all comes
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Speaker 3: down to.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad that you point that out, because I
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Speaker 2: think there are a lot of people who fall it's
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Speaker 2: a bit of a slippery slope. They kind of fall
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Speaker 2: into this trap of oh, this is something that makes
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Speaker 2: people feel good. I mean, it's such a virtue signal obviously,
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Speaker 2: but underneath it is really something that is very sinister,
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Speaker 2: very scary, and very damaging potentially to our country. As
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Speaker 2: you just laid out. I think a lot of people
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Speaker 2: look at something like this, and I know you've been
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Speaker 2: urging Governor Kathy Hokeel to reject this bill, which let's
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Speaker 2: hope she does because it's total insanity. But I think
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Speaker 2: a lot of people look at this and they say,
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Speaker 2: why is this something that people are even wasting their
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Speaker 2: time on. You know, you've got real issues in a
19:54
Speaker 2: state like New York, and yet this is where they
19:57
Speaker 2: are putting their time and their effort. And it probably
20:01
Speaker 2: does go to towards what you say that there's a
20:04
Speaker 2: lot more going on underneath the surface than what people
20:08
Speaker 2: are even aware of. But what I mean, where do
20:10
Speaker 2: you think Kathy Hochel stands on this? Do you think
20:13
Speaker 2: this is actually going to go through?
20:16
Speaker 4: So I will I will, I will say that I
20:18
Speaker 4: think Kathy Hochel is scared shitless of her base. I
20:22
Speaker 4: think she is terrified that she is going to face
20:27
Speaker 4: pressure from the radical.
20:28
Speaker 3: Left, and I think that's why she's just kind of
20:31
Speaker 3: dragging her feet.
20:32
Speaker 4: She hasn't said one way or the other of which
20:35
Speaker 4: way she's going to go on signing the bill. Her
20:37
Speaker 4: office came out and said something to the effect of, well,
20:39
Speaker 4: she hasn't until the end of the year. And I
20:42
Speaker 4: think she's just trying to bid her time, honestly, because
20:46
Speaker 4: she knows that there is a growing force within New
20:50
Speaker 4: York politics. Look no further than the elections that just
20:53
Speaker 4: took place in the primaries where progressive members of Congress
20:58
Speaker 4: were taken out by solute lunatics. You see Mom Damie's
21:03
Speaker 4: New York City that is really rooted now in this
21:06
Speaker 4: democratic socialist which if you listen to them, that these
21:09
Speaker 4: are their words, not ours.
21:10
Speaker 3: Communism is their goal.
21:12
Speaker 4: And so I think for her, she's just trying to
21:14
Speaker 4: figure out where she can kind of land on this
21:17
Speaker 4: without really angering that ultra and I don't even call
21:21
Speaker 4: it progressive.
21:21
Speaker 3: It's a regressive movement that they have.
21:25
Speaker 4: She's not willing to take a stand, which is again
21:28
Speaker 4: also insulting to so many New Yorkers. But when you
21:33
Speaker 4: talk about what people actually care about, you hit this
21:36
Speaker 4: just perfectly.
21:37
Speaker 3: People are worried about real issues.
21:39
Speaker 4: I'm sitting here at a kitchen table, and at my
21:42
Speaker 4: kitchen table back home, you know, we are talking about,
21:45
Speaker 4: you know, paying bills and getting our daughter set up
21:48
Speaker 4: for success, and what everyday life is looking like.
21:50
Speaker 3: That's what Americans are worried about.
21:52
Speaker 4: They want to make sure that their issues are being
21:54
Speaker 4: taken care of, not the legislature that is out there
21:57
Speaker 4: changing terms. That is one so insulting and undermine so
22:01
Speaker 4: many moms and dads. But think about the adoptive parents
22:04
Speaker 4: in this case that you know now their child is
22:07
Speaker 4: going to be forced to.
22:08
Speaker 3: Call them a non gestating parent. I mean, what in
22:12
Speaker 3: the world.
22:13
Speaker 4: I just it is really we are seeing a stark
22:16
Speaker 4: divide in this country of two separate realities. And I
22:19
Speaker 4: believe every day with all of my heart that what
22:22
Speaker 4: President Trump is doing and getting this country back on track,
22:26
Speaker 4: we are going to really prove that the America First
22:29
Speaker 4: movement and it's beyond party politics. It is about common
22:32
Speaker 4: sense versus crazy.
22:34
Speaker 2: Because this is crazy. And I like how you at
22:37
Speaker 2: the beginning talked about this. I know that you know,
22:40
Speaker 2: like you said, your mom, your daughter's about to turn one.
22:44
Speaker 2: There is nothing that I have ever done in my
22:46
Speaker 2: life or that I will ever do in my life,
22:49
Speaker 2: no matter what happens, Congresswoman, that will be more important
22:52
Speaker 2: to me than the title of mom. There is nothing
22:56
Speaker 2: that I could do that would be greater, more important
22:58
Speaker 2: than raising and showing my daughter, and I'm sure you
23:02
Speaker 2: feel the same way. The power and the incredible nature
23:06
Speaker 2: of motherhood, this kind of language whenever, and you've been
23:11
Speaker 2: very strong on this too, the language here really does matter.
23:14
Speaker 2: And whenever you start moving in this direction, it ultimately
23:18
Speaker 2: does hurt women, it does hurt children. This is not
23:21
Speaker 2: just something that you know, again, is like a virtue
23:24
Speaker 2: signal that will make a couple of people feel good,
23:26
Speaker 2: or that kind of cowtows to a certain group. There
23:29
Speaker 2: are bigger implications here, especially whenever we're looking at a
23:33
Speaker 2: group of people who have seemed to care zero about women,
23:37
Speaker 2: about women's rights, about girls in sports. Right, That's why
23:42
Speaker 2: I'm so glad that you've been so vocal about this.
23:44
Speaker 2: So on behalf of all women and moms out there,
23:46
Speaker 2: thank you.
23:48
Speaker 4: Now, you're one hundred percent right. There's nothing more empowering
23:50
Speaker 4: than being a mom. And when I think about what
23:54
Speaker 4: has happened here just in the last couple of years,
23:57
Speaker 4: like I said, you have a Supreme Court justice who
23:59
Speaker 4: can't find what a woman is.
24:01
Speaker 3: You have states fighting to say that.
24:06
Speaker 4: Boys should be in girls' locker rooms and that biological
24:10
Speaker 4: boys should be playing against girls. And we know it's
24:13
Speaker 4: not just deeply and fundamentally unfair. I mean, think about
24:16
Speaker 4: the thousands, and it is thousands of scholarships and podiums
24:19
Speaker 4: and titles and records that have been lost to biological
24:24
Speaker 4: boys in girls sports.
24:25
Speaker 3: But it is dangerous.
24:26
Speaker 4: We have seen countless girls who have been severely injured
24:30
Speaker 4: in the sport that they're playing because they're forced to
24:32
Speaker 4: compete against boys.
24:34
Speaker 3: And then you look just even a couple of months.
24:36
Speaker 4: Ago, on the House floor, the People's House, we were
24:39
Speaker 4: voting on a bill to establish the National Women's History Museum,
24:45
Speaker 4: something that President Trump has supported because he understands how
24:49
Speaker 4: important women are in the contributions that we make every
24:52
Speaker 4: single day and throughout history, and that our stories should
24:55
Speaker 4: be told. And because we have the goal to put
24:59
Speaker 4: biological win men right, the left loss their ever living minds,
25:03
Speaker 4: and they absolutely had meltdowns because of course, in the
25:06
Speaker 4: leftist politics of today, a women's museum cannot happen unless
25:11
Speaker 4: we have men in it, right. I mean, it's just
25:14
Speaker 4: every day they do one more thing to demean and
25:17
Speaker 4: diminish women. And that is why I say it is
25:20
Speaker 4: so ironic that the party that claims to be for
25:22
Speaker 4: women and all about protecting women is actually the antithesis
25:26
Speaker 4: of what they claim to stand for.
25:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that bill you're talking about for the Women's museum,
25:31
Speaker 2: that the funding for that. I know Elise Stefanic was
25:34
Speaker 2: working very hard. If I'm not mistaken on that is
25:38
Speaker 2: what was that? Was it a lease or I think
25:40
Speaker 2: it was Nicole? Sorry, Nicole Melly talkis Yes, I'm sorry,
25:44
Speaker 2: Nicole Mallley talks. That's right, I'm sorry, I got them.
25:47
Speaker 2: My New Yorkers are getting confused in my head, but
25:50
Speaker 2: but I agree.
25:52
Speaker 3: Yes, great.
25:53
Speaker 2: I remember her texting me and saying, if you can
25:55
Speaker 2: believe this, there are Democrats who are going to vote
25:58
Speaker 2: against this because of what you just said. But this
26:01
Speaker 2: is why this debate over gender ideology, about biological reality,
26:07
Speaker 2: this stuff really matters, and maybe you can kind of
26:11
Speaker 2: give it vice out there to other elected officials. Whenever
26:15
Speaker 2: you have the opportunity to make your voice heard on
26:18
Speaker 2: these issues, you absolutely should be doing it because people
26:22
Speaker 2: are paying attention. We can't let this kind of crazy
26:25
Speaker 2: takeover of our lives happen, because that's what it really
26:28
Speaker 2: feels like. It's total and complete insanity. I'm again, I'm
26:34
Speaker 2: very grateful that you've been willing to speak out on it.
26:37
Speaker 2: Are you surprised that there are not more elected officials
26:41
Speaker 2: who have been willing to kind of stand up on
26:42
Speaker 2: these issues.
26:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been frustrating, without a doubt.
26:46
Speaker 4: I mean, And we talked about Nicole Mellysacus's bill to
26:49
Speaker 4: get this museum established.
26:50
Speaker 3: She has worked so very hard.
26:52
Speaker 4: On this bill, and there's been incredible ladies like Elist
26:55
Speaker 4: Taphonic and others that have worked to get this advanced.
26:58
Speaker 3: And just for it to have.
27:00
Speaker 4: Every single Democrat, not one or two here, not a
27:02
Speaker 4: couple dozen, Every single Democrat voted against the Women's History Museum,
27:08
Speaker 4: And it's just absolutely crazy town.
27:12
Speaker 3: And so when I formed.
27:14
Speaker 4: The Republican Women's Caucus, it really was driven from the
27:18
Speaker 4: fact that I had chaired the Bipartisan Women's Caucus, because
27:21
Speaker 4: I believe a lot of the issues that we deal
27:23
Speaker 4: with as women's specifically, like healthcare right and maternal deserts,
27:28
Speaker 4: and what we have seen in this decline in women's healthcare,
27:32
Speaker 4: women's health care, it had been reduced down to a
27:35
Speaker 4: single issue. And so when I was chairing that by
27:38
Speaker 4: partisan women's Caucus, I had said, you know, I think
27:40
Speaker 4: we should take a vote to really stand together as women,
27:44
Speaker 4: not Republican versus Democrat, but just women to protect girl sports.
27:48
Speaker 3: And I was voted down twenty seven to one.
27:50
Speaker 4: And that was the moment I knew that this is
27:54
Speaker 4: when we really have to stand up and fight because
27:56
Speaker 4: it's not just at the federal level, and it's not
27:58
Speaker 4: just at the state level.
27:58
Speaker 3: It's in every city.
28:00
Speaker 4: Commission, county, commission boardroom that we are seeing these resolutions
28:05
Speaker 4: and these actions being taken.
28:07
Speaker 3: And if we're not willing to stand up, what do
28:10
Speaker 3: we say to our daughters?
28:12
Speaker 4: And that is what I think about every single day,
28:14
Speaker 4: every single day. It is how am I making sure
28:18
Speaker 4: that my daughter's future is about equal opportunity not equal outcome?
28:22
Speaker 3: How am I ensuring that I am not that I am.
28:26
Speaker 4: Protecting her from this insanity that is taking root.
28:32
Speaker 3: I hate to say that it's just talk, but it is.
28:33
Speaker 3: It's taking root.
28:35
Speaker 4: So what we have done with the Republican Women's Caucuses,
28:38
Speaker 4: we are now working to establish state chapters and put
28:42
Speaker 4: every single Republican elected official woman in that chapter and
28:48
Speaker 4: really start a conversation because it's never been done. There
28:51
Speaker 4: has never been an effort to bring every Republican elected
28:55
Speaker 4: woman together to form an army. And once you put
28:59
Speaker 4: a a busy person on something, you know it's going
29:01
Speaker 4: to get done. But if you want it done right,
29:03
Speaker 4: you put a busy woman on it.
29:05
Speaker 3: Right.
29:05
Speaker 1: That's so right.
29:07
Speaker 3: I mean, we love our men, they're great.
29:10
Speaker 4: I think that you know, we've got to support them too,
29:12
Speaker 4: But there is something to be said about the power
29:15
Speaker 4: of a bunch of women coming together, and especially when
29:18
Speaker 4: it comes to protecting our daughters and their futures.
29:21
Speaker 3: This is our moment.
29:22
Speaker 4: So everyone needs to be vocal because silence is it
29:26
Speaker 4: is no longer an option, and it is actually a
29:28
Speaker 4: time when we're seeing people step back. It's basically giving
29:32
Speaker 4: a green light to those crazy radicals on the left.
29:35
Speaker 2: I love to hear that. I think that's so exciting.
29:38
Speaker 2: I'm so glad to hear that this is going to happen.
29:41
Speaker 2: You know, you bring up we're just talking about kind
29:43
Speaker 2: of this Supreme Court decision right that the set that
29:46
Speaker 2: basically a congresswoman that the states had the ability to
29:49
Speaker 2: decide whether or not boys should be competing against girls. Now,
29:54
Speaker 2: obviously it's a win that they are saying that there
29:57
Speaker 2: is a right the states have to say no This
29:59
Speaker 2: is not fair, this is not safe. These boys, biological
30:02
Speaker 2: boys cannot compete against biological girls. But here is why
30:07
Speaker 2: I think people need to pay so much attention, especially
30:10
Speaker 2: as we head towards these midterms, congresswomen to local elections,
30:14
Speaker 2: because you have states like New York, you have states
30:16
Speaker 2: like California. They're still allowing this stuff to happen. And
30:20
Speaker 2: it's the state legislatures, it's the school boards to some
30:23
Speaker 2: extent that those people matter too. You have to vote
30:27
Speaker 2: in every election. You have to know for whom you
30:29
Speaker 2: are voting. And I continue to argue, and I would
30:33
Speaker 2: love to get your take on this as someone who
30:36
Speaker 2: is there fighting for us, fighting for the people in
30:38
Speaker 2: your district and from Florida in Washington, DC all the time.
30:44
Speaker 2: This midterm election, I think people need to take as
30:47
Speaker 2: seriously as twenty twenty four. If you want Donald Trump
30:50
Speaker 2: to continue to make America great again for the final
30:53
Speaker 2: two years of his presidency, if you don't want to
30:55
Speaker 2: see all the crazy nonsense, if you don't want socialists
30:58
Speaker 2: to take over, if you want in your own state
31:01
Speaker 2: for your girls to be safe, you've got to pay attention,
31:04
Speaker 2: and you've got to fight, and you got to vote
31:05
Speaker 2: in these elections.
31:07
Speaker 3: Girl preach, Yeah, Sonny preach.
31:12
Speaker 4: I am just like I have goosebumps listening to you
31:15
Speaker 4: say that, because it is so true. I mean, I
31:18
Speaker 4: have said repeatedly everywhere I go, every state, I visit
31:22
Speaker 4: every city, I am telling people I know that you
31:27
Speaker 4: gave it. You're all in twenty twenty four. But that
31:29
Speaker 4: means that we did half of our job. If we
31:32
Speaker 4: want President Trump to really do the things that he
31:37
Speaker 4: only he can do right and the things that we
31:39
Speaker 4: all campaigned on, we have to give him four years.
31:42
Speaker 4: You have to give him the resources, which in this
31:45
Speaker 4: case is a full complete Republican Congress of both the
31:48
Speaker 4: House and the Senate. And that means that people have
31:51
Speaker 4: to get out and vote. And I will say, there's
31:54
Speaker 4: a really interesting dynamic to this entire conversation about how
31:58
Speaker 4: language is changing, how our culture is under attack. It
32:02
Speaker 4: deals really with cognitive warfare, and no one's talking about it.
32:06
Speaker 4: Our adversaries every single day, particularly China, Russia and Iran,
32:10
Speaker 4: they are seeking to create chaos within our culture, and
32:15
Speaker 4: each one has a different endgame. I would say if
32:18
Speaker 4: you look at Russia, for example, they're not putting things
32:20
Speaker 4: out to try.
32:21
Speaker 3: To make us trust them.
32:23
Speaker 4: What they want to do is create distrust within our
32:25
Speaker 4: own institutions, our own communities, and really start making people.
32:31
Speaker 3: Question everything and pull back. And that is what is.
32:35
Speaker 4: So scary, because if you look at what China is doing,
32:38
Speaker 4: they want to actually influence our policies, and they're doing
32:40
Speaker 4: that not just at an international level, not just at
32:43
Speaker 4: a national level. When you talk about how influencers are
32:46
Speaker 4: paid off and whatnot, we're talking city commission races where
32:50
Speaker 4: they are engaging, they're coming in and they're really influencing
32:54
Speaker 4: and flexing their muscle at city level, county level. When
32:59
Speaker 4: you talk about the importance of these local races, I
33:03
Speaker 4: used to say that the school boards were the most
33:05
Speaker 4: important races in the country and I still believe it
33:08
Speaker 4: to this day because that's.
33:10
Speaker 3: What our kids are getting. It's the curriculum that those
33:12
Speaker 3: school boards are passing.
33:14
Speaker 4: It's the measures that are being passed at the county
33:17
Speaker 4: level and the school districts and the city commission level
33:20
Speaker 4: that are either saying, yeah, boys can play in girls' sports,
33:23
Speaker 4: and yeah we're gonna put boys in your daughter's locker room,
33:27
Speaker 4: and yeah we're going to make sure that you know
33:29
Speaker 4: it's a quote unquote inclusive environment. It's terrifying, and that
33:34
Speaker 4: is something that our adversaries has fit have figured out.
33:37
Speaker 4: Divide us, create uncertainty, create distrust, and then weasel.
33:42
Speaker 3: Your way in at the local levels.
33:44
Speaker 4: And that is where we need those those local officials
33:47
Speaker 4: to stand up and push back harder than ever. If
33:50
Speaker 4: you want to make America great again, if you want
33:52
Speaker 4: to put America first, it starts in our own backyard.
33:55
Speaker 2: Gosh, it really does. A house divided cannot stand. We
33:58
Speaker 2: know that, and you're right. There are people from around
34:02
Speaker 2: the world who are actively working every single day to
34:07
Speaker 2: try to bring down America, to try from within to
34:10
Speaker 2: destroy us. And we are better than that. We've been
34:13
Speaker 2: here for two hundred and fifty years. We're not going
34:15
Speaker 2: to let that happen. But we can only be successful
34:19
Speaker 2: if people stay involved, if people stay alert, people get
34:22
Speaker 2: out there and vote in these elections before we let
34:24
Speaker 2: you go. I'm so curious. You know you've done so much,
34:27
Speaker 2: and I know you got your hands full. Anything else
34:30
Speaker 2: that you're working on in Congress, anything we should be
34:33
Speaker 2: keeping our eye on that you might have coming up.
34:36
Speaker 3: Oh man, there's so much. I mean, oh, I.
34:40
Speaker 4: Mean really on the cognitive warfare front, you know, taking
34:43
Speaker 4: on our adversaries that are looking to divide us.
34:47
Speaker 3: There's some really scary stuff happening there.
34:49
Speaker 4: We could do an entire show just on how China
34:52
Speaker 4: is building digital twins of members of Congress and influencers.
34:57
Speaker 3: It's pretty crazy.
34:58
Speaker 4: But I would say on the home front, really diving
35:03
Speaker 4: into some of the healthcare issues we all recognize, and
35:07
Speaker 4: I think this is again where the Trump administration has
35:10
Speaker 4: been so strong, particularly in the Maha movement.
35:12
Speaker 3: We don't have a healthcare system.
35:13
Speaker 4: We've got a sick care system, and it's completely designed
35:17
Speaker 4: to just maintain chronic conditions rather than prevent them. And
35:22
Speaker 4: so one of the big frustrations I have is women's
35:25
Speaker 4: healthcare has been pretty much an afterthought. And if it
35:28
Speaker 4: hasn't been an afterthought, then the left will tell you
35:31
Speaker 4: that it's about one thing, and that's abortion. But we
35:34
Speaker 4: all know that abortion is not healthcare one.
35:36
Speaker 3: Two.
35:37
Speaker 4: We know that women are not single issue voters, and
35:40
Speaker 4: we care about a tremendous amount of issues, and so
35:43
Speaker 4: on the healthcare front, it's really been about making sure
35:46
Speaker 4: that women's health is actually covered. So we're working on
35:50
Speaker 4: a couple of breast cancer, reconstructive surgery initiatives. We're working
35:55
Speaker 4: on a number of kids health initiatives. Talking about draining
36:00
Speaker 4: the swamp, we're working to make sure that there's no
36:03
Speaker 4: insider trading happening amongst members of Congress. Like even just
36:07
Speaker 4: getting more to a basic level, people would be shocked
36:09
Speaker 4: to know that members of Congress and their staff don't
36:14
Speaker 4: have to undergo background checks.
36:15
Speaker 3: So you think about all.
36:16
Speaker 4: These crazy radicals in Congress and the staff, many of
36:22
Speaker 4: whom come from organizations like care that are funded by
36:25
Speaker 4: like Brotherhood, for example, they don't undergo a background check
36:29
Speaker 4: and they are running the people's house.
36:31
Speaker 3: It's ludicrous.
36:32
Speaker 4: So just even basic things like that of cleaning up Congress,
36:36
Speaker 4: that is something that I think is really important as
36:39
Speaker 4: we fight collectively to drain the swamp.
36:41
Speaker 2: I love it well. We are fighting right alongside you.
36:44
Speaker 2: Congressman kat Camick. Thank you so much for all you do,
36:48
Speaker 2: for coming on and sharing it with us. We're watching,
36:51
Speaker 2: we're supporting you. Keep up the good fight, my friend,
36:54
Speaker 2: and we'll have you back on soon. Thanks so much.
36:56
Speaker 3: Appreciate you more than you know.
36:58
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