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How Influencers Are Ruining Dating · THINK BEFORE YOU SLEEP

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  Speaker 1: Women just have much more empathy than men. Like, I swear,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of men lack the empathy gene. Like, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of them are borderline psychopaths. Like, why don't men
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  Speaker 1: care about their children? It's because they don't have empathy.
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  Speaker 2: And that truth bomb about how terrible men are was
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  Speaker 2: brought to you by a YouTuber who goes by Manifestel.
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  Speaker 3: Her proof of this statement? The actions of a few celebrities. Uh, great.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for attacking men in general because of what a
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  Speaker 2: few celebrities are doing. Anyway, as I said, this is Manifestel,
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  Speaker 2: or El Rey. which sounds like a fake name, but
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  Speaker 2: I guess we can just call her Elle. Elle is
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  Speaker 2: a part of a group of women who decided to
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  Speaker 2: become YouTubers after they binged Gold Digger content clips from
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  Speaker 2: She-Ra 7 on TikTok, and it seems like their singular
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  Speaker 2: goal is to make their female viewers as unlikable as possible.
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  Speaker 2: As if male and female relationships already weren't bad enough,
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  Speaker 2: we have creators like Manifestel making things worse by spreading
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  Speaker 2: narcissistic ideology like this.
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  Speaker 1: Just exist, because as a woman... You have value just
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  Speaker 1: by existing. And a lot of people don't want you
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  Speaker 1: to know that. Simply existing with a man, you're already
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  Speaker 1: doing him a favor. Because you bring so much to
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  Speaker 1: the table just by existing with him. Just by allowing
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  Speaker 1: him 24-7 access to you.
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  Speaker 3: Nah, no you don't.
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  Speaker 2: The only things that have value just by existing are
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  Speaker 2: children and pets. So unless you want to be treated
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  Speaker 2: like a child or a pet, you better get to work.
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  Speaker 2: Getting along with someone and enjoying their company is great.
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  Speaker 2: That's the fun part of the relationship. But also, there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of work to be done to create the
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  Speaker 2: space to have fun, and what guy wants to be
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  Speaker 2: with a woman who just sits there and exists? What
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  Speaker 2: woman would want to put up with a man who.
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  Speaker 3: Just exists in a relationship? Well, I can think of
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  Speaker 3: someone who wouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: Like, honestly, the holidays are even worse for women, who
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  Speaker 1: bear this responsibility of making sure that everything is in
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  Speaker 1: place and everyone else is unwinding. Like, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the women are running themselves ragged while the men just exist.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, so now it's suddenly a problem for someone to
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  Speaker 2: not contribute actual labor when it means that you have
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  Speaker 2: to do the work. What a convenient set of beliefs.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost the same kind of one-sided beliefs a person
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  Speaker 2: who lacks the empathy gene would have. So on the
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  Speaker 2: female side of the internet, you have ideas like that
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  Speaker 2: poisoning women, women who are often fresh out of a
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  Speaker 2: pathological relationship when they find Manifestel, and she basically recommends
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  Speaker 2: that they fix their relationship problems by doing the exact
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  Speaker 2: bad things that were done to them, and if that
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  Speaker 2: wasn't bad enough, She fills her head with ideas that
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  Speaker 2: are very far removed from reality.
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  Speaker 1: Guy friends almost always end up liking you.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, technically that part was true. Anyway, here's the delusional part.
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  Speaker 1: And for the longest time that you've been friends with them,
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  Speaker 1: they have liked you for all that time. So you
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  Speaker 1: just allowed him to date you for years on end,
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  Speaker 1: getting all the benefits of a relationship with you, draining you.
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  Speaker 1: using you in the games of men, using you as
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  Speaker 1: a status symbol, all under the guise of friendship.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, they get all the benefits? Are you sure?
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  Speaker 2: Because I can think of a physical activity that is
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  Speaker 2: a benefit of a relationship that guys don't get when
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  Speaker 2: they're in the friend zone.
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  Speaker 1: Women are trophies in the games of men. So female
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  Speaker 1: presence around a man confers a lot of status on him.
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  Speaker 1: All of a sudden, he's a winner. I've experienced and
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  Speaker 1: learned from other women how guy friends would want to
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  Speaker 1: go out with you as friends. but they would make
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  Speaker 1: other people think that you're together. And after that, he
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  Speaker 1: still has the audacity to Venmo request you.
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  Speaker 3: You're kidding, right?
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  Speaker 2: As a guy, if you pretend to go out with
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  Speaker 2: a chick when you're actually in the friend zone, all
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  Speaker 2: of your male friends are going to think you're a
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  Speaker 2: complete loser when they find out.
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  Speaker 3: This isn't high school, Elle. I mean, you're old enough
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  Speaker 3: to be out of college.
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  Speaker 2: You're a fully grown adult, and who in their mid-twenties
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  Speaker 2: thinks a guy in the friend zone is a winner?
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  Speaker 3: She's so delusional about this that she brings.
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  Speaker 2: Up a comment about how a male chat mod of
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  Speaker 2: a female streamer is using that streamer for clout, as
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  Speaker 2: if anyone outside of Reddit thinks that a Pokimane simp
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  Speaker 2: is cool. And the craziest thing is that she spends
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  Speaker 2: this whole video pretending that women don't knowingly string guys
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  Speaker 2: along in the friend zone because of the benefits that
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  Speaker 2: they get.
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  Speaker 1: All the girlies who say, well, my guy friend is
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  Speaker 1: okay because he pays for me. So when you go out,
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  Speaker 1: he pays for you, but he's not dating you. They're
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  Speaker 1: accessing you in a romantic way, in a romantic setting,
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  Speaker 1: without being your actual mate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like she's receiving the benefit of her
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  Speaker 2: relationship here, because certainly I don't pay for all my
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  Speaker 2: friends' meals.
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  Speaker 3: We either trade off or we split the bill.
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  Speaker 2: Now, despite the fact that Manifestel will throw slight jabs
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  Speaker 2: at the Manosphere, I really don't see much of a
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  Speaker 2: difference between her content and channels like Fresh and Fit.
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  Speaker 3: That's kind of the problem with all this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I think mainstream figures in both the Manosphere and the
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  Speaker 2: She-Ra 7 cinematic universe promote ideology that is incredibly toxic
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  Speaker 2: to the dating pool. The gold digger stuff is just
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  Speaker 2: the version of it that appeals to women. However, despite
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  Speaker 2: Elle taking slight jabs at channels like Fresh and Fit,
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  Speaker 2: she repeats the same ideology.
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  Speaker 1: You are the prize, not him. You are the source,
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  Speaker 1: not him.
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  Speaker 3: Gee, where have I heard that before? I always find
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  Speaker 3: it interesting how, like, girls kind of, like, look at
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  Speaker 3: it like, I'm the prize. Not really, I don't think so.
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  Speaker 4: The reason why the man is the prize is because
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  Speaker 4: the man needs to be superior to the woman for
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  Speaker 4: the woman to be interested in him.
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  Speaker 3: That's a fact.
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  Speaker 2: Personally, I fail to see strong relationships where each partner
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  Speaker 2: doesn't think of the other as the prize. But maybe
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  Speaker 2: that's just my own life experiences. Next, we have the
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  Speaker 2: abundance mindset.
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  Speaker 5: I want guys to have an abundance mindset because when
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  Speaker 5: you have an abundance mindset, you're able to better detect
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  Speaker 5: a girl that is worthy of a relationship.
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  Speaker 1: You need to get more into your abundance mindset because
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  Speaker 1: as a woman, everyone wants to access you. Like, literally
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  Speaker 1: everyone wants to access you.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I've even heard Manifestel call men hypergamous.
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  Speaker 1: Because as it turns out, women usually date within or
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  Speaker 1: below their league, while men usually date out of their league.
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  Speaker 6: What?
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  Speaker 2: If you watched the video, her evidence of this is
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  Speaker 2: a random street interview where men say they would rather
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  Speaker 2: date a higher value woman, and women say they would
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  Speaker 2: rather date a lower value man. First of all, just
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  Speaker 2: because a man wants a more valuable woman, doesn't mean
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  Speaker 2: he can get her. Second, hypergamy is not specifically defined,
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  Speaker 2: so we have no idea what it means. Does higher
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  Speaker 2: value mean more physically attractive, more money, more education, more
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  Speaker 2: social skills, a better network? That's kind of the problem
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  Speaker 2: with this and the hypergamy studies that I was able
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  Speaker 2: to find. basically none of them considered important value indicators
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  Speaker 2: like physical attractiveness or the person's network and how those
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  Speaker 2: mix with things like.
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  Speaker 3: Making more money.
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  Speaker 2: Now surely Elle wouldn't repeat this same talking point about
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  Speaker 2: how hypergamous men are in a different video about princess
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  Speaker 2: treatment and be dumb enough to show a graph that
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  Speaker 2: displays married men making double what married women make and
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  Speaker 2: follow that by saying that women would rather be single
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  Speaker 2: than marry a guy who makes less than 40k a year,
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  Speaker 2: which is more than the average woman made in that study.
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  Speaker 2: That sounds kind of hypergamous. I mean, even the unmarried
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  Speaker 2: men are making more than the married women. And this
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  Speaker 2: is men marrying up? The only metric she wins on
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  Speaker 2: is education, but this probably doesn't factor in trade schools
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  Speaker 2: or apprenticeships. And more importantly, being a college graduate doesn't
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  Speaker 2: mean you're smart or have a lot of money. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: what I see here is the unmarried men who make
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  Speaker 2: more than women are probably in a lot less debt.
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  Speaker 2: But if you think that her thoughts on hypergamy was
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  Speaker 2: the worst Manosphere copycat take, then you haven't heard this one.
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  Speaker 1: Men baby trap women all the time, especially women who
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  Speaker 1: have high potential or are already high achieving, high earning women.
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  Speaker 1: Men love to baby trap these women all the time.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of bad men will baby trap you, have
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  Speaker 1: children with you, then disengage, leave, and then use the
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  Speaker 1: child to manipulate you and have constant, continuous access to
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  Speaker 1: you through the child. A lot of bad men use
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  Speaker 1: children to perpetually manipulate abuse their ex-partners. And a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the times, the court systems help them do it.
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  Speaker 1: The courts help these bad men control their exes' lives.
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  Speaker 2: Great, she's red-pilled on family court. But ultimately, the decision
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  Speaker 2: to have a child or not is on the woman,
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  Speaker 2: so this isn't trapping. Even if you were stupid and
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  Speaker 2: had unprotected sex with a person that you aren't married to,
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  Speaker 2: women can still choose whether or not to take that
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  Speaker 2: baby to term, whether a man consents to it or not.
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  Speaker 2: The man can't do that, which is why it's called trapping.
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  Speaker 2: though I don't see why everyone feels the need to
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  Speaker 2: blame the opposite sex. If you have unprotected sex with
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  Speaker 2: a person who you aren't in a committed relationship with,
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  Speaker 2: then both of you are stupid. Stop creating messed up
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  Speaker 2: situations for children and then blaming each other for it
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  Speaker 2: because you wanted to feel slightly better in bed. And
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  Speaker 2: if you had the kid voluntarily in a marriage but
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  Speaker 2: it failed, then that's not baby trapping, that's people picking
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  Speaker 2: the wrong partners. So I don't think Elle really understands
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  Speaker 2: the terms that she's using. But I will say that
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  Speaker 2: it literally looks like this chick just watched a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of Manosphere content, flipped around some of the words, and
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  Speaker 2: sold it to women. I mean, this is straight up
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  Speaker 2: copycat material.
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  Speaker 1: Did she just say that all women are prostitutes? This
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  Speaker 1: is satire, right? But just in case you had any
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  Speaker 1: doubt about this being the female version of the.
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  Speaker 2: Manosphere, Then look, she even sells a crappy overpriced course
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  Speaker 2: on how to be a YouTuber, where she brags about
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  Speaker 2: how much money she makes, and if you pay her $ 450,
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  Speaker 2: which is a sale, guys, so you're getting the deal here,
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  Speaker 2: it's totally not always on sale, but if you pay
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  Speaker 2: her $ 450, she'll even show you how much money she makes. Except,
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  Speaker 2: we already know how much money you make. You said
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  Speaker 2: here it's over $ 100, 000. I feel like I just saved
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  Speaker 2: people money on Part 5. Speaking of each section... I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what any of this stuff means.
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  Speaker 3: On part 4.
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  Speaker 2: Everything in part 3 can be googled in like 5
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  Speaker 2: seconds as well as most of part 2. Or, alternatively,
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  Speaker 2: you can learn how to take blurry photos from Elle
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  Speaker 2: with tons of visual noise so your eye has no
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  Speaker 2: idea what to focus on which is terrible for social
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  Speaker 2: media marketing. Really, the only advice here that would be
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  Speaker 2: worth any money is script writing and content strategy, but
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  Speaker 2: you can learn that stuff for way less than what
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  Speaker 2: she's charging. Both of these topics are talked about in
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  Speaker 2: this masterclass from the writers of Stranger Things, and it's
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  Speaker 2: like $ 10 to get access to it. Also, watch this
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  Speaker 2: video from the South Park creators and then buy this
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  Speaker 2: book by John Truby.
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  Speaker 3: There, I just saved you $ 400. $ 400.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of people like She-Ra 7, the whole foundation of
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  Speaker 2: this gold digger spoiled girly movement is what they call
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  Speaker 2: princess treatment, and if you don't know what that means,
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  Speaker 2: let's have Elle define it.
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  Speaker 1: A good man will do his best to make it
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  Speaker 1: easy for you. A good man allows you to turn
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  Speaker 1: off the chaos in your brain in his presence. Like,
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  Speaker 1: the greenest green flag is when you can stop thinking
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  Speaker 1: about things. Like, you can just turn your brain off,
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  Speaker 1: put yourself in princess passenger mode in his presence. Because
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  Speaker 1: he's doing all the thinking, he's doing all the planning,
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  Speaker 1: he's doing all these things.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds a lot like infantilization. It sounds like
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  Speaker 2: you want to be treated like a child who doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have to do anything. Well, a spoiled child who mommy
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  Speaker 2: and daddy buy a bunch of useless nonsense for.
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  Speaker 1: Princess treatment is apparently the new status symbol. Purchasing your
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  Speaker 1: own luxury items or luxury experiences is no longer the
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  Speaker 1: most highest aspirational marker of high status. It is now
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  Speaker 1: getting a man to get you those things. The luxury items,
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  Speaker 1: the luxury experiences.
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  Speaker 2: Great, yet another female influencer telling women that men ain't
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  Speaker 2: shit unless they waste money on an ugly-ass Louis Vuitton purse.
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  Speaker 2: or go on vacation ten times a year. Be real,
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  Speaker 2: spoiled girlies, the only reason that you like this design
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  Speaker 2: is because they won't let you have this purse unless
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  Speaker 2: you're rich. Otherwise, it's ugly or unimpressive. Literally the biggest
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  Speaker 2: waste of money ever. It's almost as dumb as Californians
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  Speaker 2: paying for a $ 75, 000 house on a $ 1. 2 million plot
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  Speaker 2: of land. But getting back to the infantilization part and
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  Speaker 2: the part where Manifestel is yet again arguing to be
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  Speaker 2: treated like a child or a pet, it's really ironic
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  Speaker 2: because I've watched her say this.
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  Speaker 1: Men are not children. Stop infantilizing men.
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  Speaker 2: So it's wrong for women to infantilize men, but it's
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  Speaker 2: ideal if men treat women like their children? Uh, how
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  Speaker 2: about both partners behave like adults? Now, I do think
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  Speaker 2: it's fine to let the woman that you're with sit
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  Speaker 2: back and relax as you handle everything. I mean, why
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't you want to treat a significant other well? But
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  Speaker 2: if she expects you to do that 24-7 while she's
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  Speaker 2: spaced out all the time just existing, it gets annoying.
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  Speaker 2: Particularly if she combos that with a messed up and
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  Speaker 2: unappreciative statement like, This is the bare minimum you can
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  Speaker 2: do for me because just by existing around me, you're
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  Speaker 2: draining my resources.
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  Speaker 1: Provider men are the bare minimum, okay? So it is
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  Speaker 1: a spoiled girly support group. Provider men are the bare minimum.
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  Speaker 1: And in the spoiled girly support group, provider men are
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  Speaker 1: not status symbols. Okay? Like, they're the only men that exist.
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  Speaker 2: By provider man, she means the guy who pays for everything,
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  Speaker 2: does all the work, and waste money on luxury items
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  Speaker 2: that are valued by the brand name, and not by
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  Speaker 2: the design or the quality of the materials. So, uh,
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  Speaker 2: what a nice way to devalue a man who works
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  Speaker 2: hard while framing it as a compliment. Hey, you know
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  Speaker 2: all that hard work that you did to become rich
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  Speaker 2: and successful? That's like D plus bare minimum effort. It's
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  Speaker 2: just a passing grade. I mean, for how much she
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  Speaker 2: talks about women being treated poorly, she sure has a
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  Speaker 2: way of speaking down to men. Even the men she
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  Speaker 2: labels as good. But great news, guys. I think you'll
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  Speaker 2: enjoy the advice from this next clip.
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  Speaker 1: If he offers you a coffee date or a walking date,
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  Speaker 1: he wants to take you on a first date to
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  Speaker 1: walk you like a dog. A lot of us have
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  Speaker 1: been offered coffee dates or walking dates, but it is
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  Speaker 1: on us to reject them, okay?
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  Speaker 2: Funny how she mentioned the dog thing as the demeaning
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  Speaker 2: standard when she often states that she wants to be
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  Speaker 2: treated like a pet.
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  Speaker 3: But thanks, Manifestel.
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  Speaker 2: You just gave us a cheat code to make sure
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  Speaker 2: that we never end up in a relationship with a
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  Speaker 2: woman like you. Take her out for coffee or a
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  Speaker 2: trip to the park on the first date. Personally, I
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  Speaker 2: think that spending money on a woman isn't a problem,
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: but leading with money will very likely earn you a
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  Speaker 2: stuck-up narcissist. Now, this is not to say that Elle
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  Speaker 2: always makes bad arguments. Like I've stated with other creators
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  Speaker 2: that I've made videos on, there's a reason why people
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  Speaker 2: agree with her and follow her content. It's because there's
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  Speaker 2: truth in some of what she says, and it seems
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  Speaker 2: like a primary concern from her viewers is that in
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  Speaker 2: the past, they've dated losers.
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  Speaker 1: And a lot of women think that by being with
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  Speaker 1: a man when he's down and out, when he's financially unstable,
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  Speaker 1: by supporting him, paying his bills, buying him a car,
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  Speaker 1: paying for rent while he sits home and plays video games...
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  Speaker 1: You think that you're helping him out, but this man
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  Speaker 1: is not in his purpose.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
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  Speaker 2: Women shouldn't date men who don't have jobs or men
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  Speaker 2: who are still making minimum wage in their late 20s.
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  Speaker 2: There are so many jobs out there that are in
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  Speaker 2: demand and pay well, especially in the trades. If a
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  Speaker 2: guy is just wasting his life away by playing Fortnite
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  Speaker 2: for 12 hours a day, then women shouldn't date him,
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  Speaker 2: and certainly they shouldn't be paying his bills. The second
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  Speaker 2: topic I think people like Manifestel have a strong point
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  Speaker 2: on is when they talk about traditional marriages and about
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  Speaker 2: how much of a vulnerable place that type of relationship
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  Speaker 2: can put women in if they choose incorrectly.
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  Speaker 6: For 24 years, I lived in million-dollar homes. I vacationed
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  Speaker 6: all over the world. I spent my summers in Hawaii.
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  Speaker 6: I could buy myself $ 500 jeans, diamond tennis bracelets. We
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  Speaker 6: had boats and RVs and whatever I wanted. And it
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  Speaker 6: never bothered me once that my financial security was dependent
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  Speaker 6: on that man being in love with me. I never
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  Speaker 6: realized that him liking me or not liking me or
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  Speaker 6: finding me sexy or attractive or interesting determined whether or
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  Speaker 6: not my children could eat.
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  Speaker 2: Personally, I think traditional marriages are still better than modern ones,
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  Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean there aren't issues. I do think
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: women should be learning how to vet for abusive men
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: and maybe invest time into building a marketable skill that
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: makes you enough to survive just in case, or make
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: sure that you have supportive family members that you can
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: fall back on just in case. good relationships will always
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: have hedges against abusers or fallouts. And it's important that
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: this is brought up because if you're in a position
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: where your partner is trying to put you in a
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: place where they have enormous power over you and they
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: fight for that, then they are most likely going to
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: be abusive or at the very least will be tempted
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: to leverage that power against you. But also understand that
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: this problem is compounded by other things like asshole elites
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: buying up entire neighborhoods so they can artificially increase the
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: price of housing, whether that's to selfishly make more money
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: or or purposefully make people more mentally ill by making
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: it too expensive for people to be able to afford
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: to leave abusive relationships. Mentally ill people are very easy
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: to manipulate and control, especially through fear-mongering, and don't think
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: assholes out there wouldn't do this. There's a whole book
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: about it called The Dictator's Handbook that talks about how
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: politicians do things like purposefully design roads to be inefficient
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: so that people don't have time to protest. You'd be
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: surprised at how much of people's free time you can
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: steal with inefficient traffic lights inefficient infrastructure, or endless construction.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: So understand that this problem is a little bit more
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: complicated than one group on the internet pointing the finger
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: at women and one group on the internet pointing the
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: finger at men. And it would be nice if we
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: could stop doing that so instead we could focus on
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: asshole elites who are pathologizing society so they can get
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: a few more zeros next to their names Getting.
• 16:46
  Speaker 7: Into this whole comparative suffering thing, whether it's black, Asian, white, Chinese, man, woman,
• 16:51
  Speaker 7: all this other stuff, it is most often pointless and counterproductive.
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: You spend more time discussing who suffers more and who
• 16:59
  Speaker 7: suffers less, and less time acknowledging the other person's suffering.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Suffering Olympics.
• 17:03
  Speaker 7: You're in competition. There's literally no opportunity here for you
• 17:06
  Speaker 7: guys to work together because you're too busy being like,
• 17:08
  Speaker 7: I have it worse. And in order for you to
• 17:10
  Speaker 7: be able to say that you have it worse, you
• 17:12
  Speaker 7: have to discredit the other side. How are you ever
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: going to build?
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Speaking of politics and an extreme lack of self-awareness, Manifestel
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: decided to make a video about the 2024 election.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: You may have noticed, like, I don't really talk about politics.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: There's other people better equipped to talk about that, and
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: it's not me, okay? If you are expecting me to,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: number one, tell you my political ideology, and number two,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: to push that certain political ideology on you, no. This
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: is not the place for it.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Aww, this is so sweet. She thinks she doesn't push
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: any of her political ideology in her videos.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: And this is all because I believe that the patriarchal
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: structures we are under have once again tricked us into
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: being pygmies for them.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: What's funny is that this very ideologically charged statement is
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: the next thing she says. And I'm supposed to believe
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: that she scripts these videos when she makes optics mistakes
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: like that? I mean, you would have to not watch
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: our content to be unable to figure out where she
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: is on the political spectrum. especially when she throws out
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: stuff like this in most videos.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: On top of us living in what some people would
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: call late-stage capitalism, which, hot take, is literally just capitalism.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Gee, personally, I'm only aware of one group on the
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: internet that uses that term, late-stage capitalism. Like, it's a
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: very specific group of people.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: It's the reason why people love to emphasize how much
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: they worked hard instead of acknowledging the privileges that gave
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: them a leg up.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Now she's going on about privilege.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Are you still having trouble figuring out where Elle falls
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: in the political spectrum? What if I told you that
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: she's quoted Naomi Wolf in a few videos, uses the
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: term misogyny a lot, and says stuff like natural society
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: was matriarchal until men took society from women and created
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: the patriarchy?
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Why does the patriarchy need to be legitimized through these
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: complicated social constructs? It's almost like it's unnatural. And we
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: talked about it in our God is a Woman class.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: It is such a deep dive on the origins of
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Would anyone have trouble figuring out that this chick is
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: on the left? And not just on the left, I
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: mean Ella's very on the left. Using the term late-stage
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: capitalism should be a big red flag for that.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Only breadtubers use that term.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Women are waking up to the fact that the least
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: a man can do is pay. They taught us that
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: it is bad to be an entitled, difficult, spoiled gold digger.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: You know why. It's to police us from demanding our
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: fair shake in this capitalist patriarchal society.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Or it's because it's annoying. But the whole spoiled girly
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: thing must be confusing because feminist types like her typically
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: see it as demeaning to let a man be the
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: breadwinner and be in control. I really don't understand how
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: a person who constantly preaches feminist ideology could have these
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: beliefs unless her ideology is catered to whatever conveniently benefits
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: her the most instead of being catered to any kind
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: of moral consistency, which is very much the move of
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: a radicalized person. So when I say she's very on
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: the left, I mean that she is very on the left.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: like woke radical leftist echo chamber, where she never listens
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: to opposing ideas.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: First of all, men are not allowed in the comments, okay?
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Y'all are not allowed. This is not your space. The
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: rest of the internet is your space. This is the
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: spoiled girly support group. Men are not allowed. I've been
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: hearing this sentiment about how we need to.
• 20:25
  Speaker 8: Hear people out and have all these conversations with different
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: types of people.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: No! Like, I don't need to talk to, like, people
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: that I don't want to talk to. I don't need
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: to talk to people who argue from bad faith. I
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: don't need to do this and that. Like, I don't
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: need to do anything, okay?
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can tell that you never listen to opposition
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: because so many of the things that you say are
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: complete nonsense. Only someone who never looks at criticism would
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: say these things. Again, it's so hard to believe that
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: someone is unironically saying this that it sounds like satire.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: This is exactly what South Park was making fun of.
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: If you do not like me, you are not allowed
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: in my safe space.
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: My safe space.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: And by the way, it's not just no man in
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: the comments, it's also.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Nobody who is not a spoiled girlie is allowed to
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: comment on my videos either.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: And as a reminder, only spoiled girlies are allowed in
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: the spoiled girlie support group, and it's a support group,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: not debate class.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: That's hilarious.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: It's literally the Safe Space song from South Park in
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: its entirety, even using similar wording.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: As I said before, this chick has no self-awareness.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Which I'm sure has nothing to do with her insistence
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: on never listening to people who disagree with her. And
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: what I mean by that is that during the politics video,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: she's like, I used to be a dumb woke person
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: who would have been in those TikTok compilations of people
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: freaking out because Trump won.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: But I've changed now.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: This isn't my first rodeo, okay? Like, I was in
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: the trenches. Protesting, walking, chanting, making signs and posters. Like,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I was mad. And honestly, I'm still thankful that I
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: didn't have TikTok back then. Because I'd be in these compilations. Honestly.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Like these compilations that they make on TikTok to make
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: fun of women in pain and women who have been
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: manipulated to be so emotionally dependent on a patriarchal structure,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: so much so that it sends them spiraling when things
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: do not go their way politically. Like these are women
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: in pain and it's so upsetting to see that this
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: has been done to them. And like I said, I
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: am so passionate about this because I was these women.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I love how she plays the victim here and says,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: these poor women melting down because their political candidate lost.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Weren't these people also saying that their political opponent should
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: have been assassinated and made TikToks lamenting about how the
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: shooter missed? I have no sympathy for these people. If
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: you don't want people clipping you, then don't post shit
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: on the internet. They're adults and they're responsible for their
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: own actions. Stop playing the victim card and infantilizing them.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: At this point in time, I was turning into an
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: easily triggered person. I was becoming hateful. I was looking
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: down on people for the very same behavior I was
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: engaging in. And every time something happened outside of my control,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: the wrong person got voted in, you know, whatever, it
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: would send me into a spiral, okay? Like, I was catastrophizing, worrying,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: and just having these intrusive, like, What if XYZ bad
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: thing happened thoughts? It also makes me so sad that
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: other women are still being turned into that, okay? It's
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: still happening to women all over the country, especially young women.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: And I have done so much to heal from that.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Elle, how exactly did you change?
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Sure, you might not be flipping out because Trump won
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: the election again, but you still exhibit all the same
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: pathological behaviors that the average Wokie does.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: What do I mean by that? Well, why don't we
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: talk about it?
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I always get accused... of instigating a gender war between
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: men and women.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Gee, I wonder why people would accuse you of this.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Maybe it has something to do with you moving into
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: man-hating ideology right after you said that.
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: Oh, this is so divisive. Like, why are you so bitter? Like,
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: you know you're doing more harm than good.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, I don't need to do that. Okay, I don't
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: need to start a fake gender war online. You know why?
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Because we're already at war. Women and children are already
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: being harmed by the male population. Violent crime has a
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: male problem. Child SA has a male problem. Mass unalignment
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: has a male problem. When do we start talking about
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: our male problem?
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Well, if you're going to be openly sexist, then why
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: stop there? Why not break these problems with violent crime
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: down by race? And if framing it like that makes
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: you a bigot, then saying, we need to talk about
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: the male problem is just as messed up. Now, I've
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: watched a number of the gold digger videos over the
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: past couple years, and I have never seen one of
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: them spread radicalized man-hating ideology as often as Manifestel does.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Maybe the wizard Liz had a bad video or two
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: that I would say possibly counts as sexist.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Possibly.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Anna Bey is like a fashion YouTuber now, so she
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: doesn't count. And She-Ra 7 is often really funny when
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: she talks shit about men. So actually, I don't really
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: care about the things that she says because it's just comedy.
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: I've been with him.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Four years and we still ain't moved out or have
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: a ring.
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: And currently he has no job.
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: Then you a prisoner.
• 25:04
  Speaker 8: You been kidnapped by a broke man.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't like her morals, but she is funny.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: That being said, Manifestel spreads man-hating vitriol in at least
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: half of the videos that I watched. She straight up
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: has mantras designed to make women hate men.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Men are inherently labor, and they are inherently risk. I
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: always tell you, men are inherently risk, men are inherently labor,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: men are still labor, and men are still risk.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Now, I don't think I've ever seen her explain this,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: because she uses a bunch of insider language designed to
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: make outsiders not understand what she's talking about, which totally
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: is not something that radicalized cults do. I mean, she
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: clearly has read the How to Make a Cult section
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: of the 48 Laws of Power, as she has her
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: spoiled girly support group that doesn't allow dissenting opinions, and
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: has the narcissistic belief that her group is better than
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: other people. A number of cult tactics are being used here.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: But I think by labor, she means that men have
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: the crazy expectation of women having to do work in
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: their relationship, and by risk, she means that men are violent.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: She also says this a lot.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: If you're new here, the free bird theory is our
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: theory that men like to cage free birds. They like
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: pursuing women who have things going for themselves, are on
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the cusp of something great, are on the precipice of
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: making a name for themselves, and these men trap these women,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: essentially caging the free bird. And the freer the bird,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: the higher the bird flies, the more satisfying the takedown.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I have no idea what this means. I've never seen
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: this in real life. Like, I'm sure there's a person
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: on TikTok who has a story, but this is not
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: a common thing. Men aren't just out there thinking, this
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: woman's about to become a CEO, I can't wait to
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: cage her and.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Ruin her dreams.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: And her examples for stuff like this are usually celebrities,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: so I don't think she has the strongest grasp on reality.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Understand that she's describing traditional relationships here, so I also
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: think that she thinks that traditional relationships are inherently pathological,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: as she very frequently calls them indentured servitude, and completely
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: undermines the fact that men also have to work incredibly
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: hard to make those relationships work.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Especially in the modern economy.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: But as I said, this chick has no ability to
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: see stuff from other people's perspectives or self-reflect, so she'll
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: say stuff like this.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: It is a trend that comes up time and time again,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: like literally in history, it comes up time and time again,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: and it's the objectification to dehumanization pipeline, which usually ends up,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: almost always, in the harming, unaliving, enslaving, and colonizing of
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: said dehumanized and objectified people.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Get it?
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: It's ironic because she objectifies and dehumanizes men all the time.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Just by existing with a man, you have value and
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: you are being mined for your value. And the least
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: men can do is pay.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I want someone to make a counter for how many
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: times she objectifies men in her videos for their money
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: and just sees them as a wallet. And speaking of dehumanization,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Elle constantly dehumanizes men to make us seem psychopathic and evil.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Men love free birds. Like, they take pleasure in you
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: giving up something to be with them.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: What kind of men are you dating? Again, this is
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: not a common thing. The only person who would think
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: this is common is a person who got all their
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: relationship knowledge from TikTok.
• 28:07
  Speaker 8: All we see older women in their 80s and 90s
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: saying what has kept them going for so long. They
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: said they stayed single. Men make us miserable.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: This comment piqued my interest. Are women really living longer
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: and happier lives without men? And the answer is yes.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like incel content for women. It's hard
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: to imagine any self-respecting man dating someone who hates men
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: so much that she would frame them in this way
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: in so many videos. The minute he sees her saying
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: stuff like this, he's out.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Men have not kept up with the times. They still
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: have this entitlement towards women and they are disrespecting women
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: even more. They are scamming women even more. They're hurting
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: women even more. They're unaliving women even more.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: And now we're a bunch of killers?
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Unaliving women even more is a strange claim because murder
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: rates have been trending downward for the past 30 years
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: and only spiked up a little bit during the COVID
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: years when mainstream media was openly encouraging rioting. But now
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: that that's over, you can see them trending down again
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: and the rates of female homicide follow the same trend.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: you would think that Elle would have looked that up
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: before she put that statement.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: In her video.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is that she's given
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: the sentiment that men are becoming more violent in multiple videos,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: but apparently has never taken a few seconds to actually
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: look that up to see if it was true. Do
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: you not see how saying this kind of stuff is
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: dehumanizing towards men and might make your audience feel that
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: violence towards men is justified?
• 29:21
  Speaker 9: Well, here's the thing is that I feel like any
• 29:23
  Speaker 9: time that I have people on the internet that act
• 29:25
  Speaker 9: like that, there is like basically there's three words unresolved
• 29:29
  Speaker 9: personal trauma yeah that's what it is it's like somebody
• 29:33
  Speaker 9: goes on the internet and they got problems with another
• 29:35
  Speaker 9: group of people i'll tell you the reason why it's
• 29:38
  Speaker 9: because you don't have problems with men you have problems
• 29:39
  Speaker 9: with your dad.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: You don't have problems with women. You have problems with
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: your ex-girlfriend. That's what it is. Every fucking time.
• 29:45
  Speaker 9: Their opinions are a product of their own anecdotal evidence.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: And then on the internet, they meet 100,000 other people
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: who think the same thing and they're like, oh, it's true.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, really. I couldn't have said it better myself.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Now, a regular viewer of Manifestel might say, But she
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: says hashtag not all men.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: With that being said, I know that there are plenty
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: of good men out there, plenty of emotionally intelligent, emotionally
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: stable men. My reality is populated by good men. And
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: obviously there's a lot of good fathers out there. I
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: know a lot. I'm surrounded by them.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Wow, great. Congrats. Where exactly are these men?
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: You spend all this time demonizing men or men asterisk,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: but you basically never show examples of men doing good things.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: You never discuss good points or good criticisms they have,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: and you never show any compassion or any empathy for
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: men who are going through difficult times. Not only that,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: but immediately after the comment about good father's, She says
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: something demeaning about men and then says, if you question me,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: then you must be a violent piece of shit.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: But whenever we talk about these things, that's why I
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: say men asterisk. Okay, the asterisk means malicious below bare
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: middle effort men. And if you feel hit by that,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: if you're like a hit dog hollering about, oh.
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: Not all men.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: Why?
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Like, why?
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Why do you empathize with that? Why do you empathize
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: with the malicious below bare middle effort men?
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Not all men.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, why do you feel hit? Does this apply? Does
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the shoe fit? Annoying.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Are you really going to say that?
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: You made a whole video about how you were offended
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: because of a comment someone made generalizing a group of women.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: On today's episode, we are talking about what happened on
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: a certain podcast. One of the podcasters, Esther, out of
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: the blue, literally, unprovoked, made this claim. I'm going to
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: say something kind of wild, but it's because I saw
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: it somewhere. Someone said that the reason why some girls
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: are tighter than others Now, if your jaw.
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: Was on the floor, join the club.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Obviously, what Esther said is absolutely despicable, absolutely atrocious. Like,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: I need more synonyms to convey how terrible it was.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Should I assume that you sleep around a lot because
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: you were offended by that comment?
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Why are you so triggered? Does the shoe fit? Are
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: you a bad woman?
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Now obviously that would be a stupid assumption, because it's
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: okay to be upset when someone negatively generalizes a group
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: that you belong to. If someone says, women bad, it
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: does not make you a bad woman to be mad
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: about that generalization. People's outrage isn't always a projection. So
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I agree that Esther's comment about female anatomy was stupid,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: But the most astronomically ironic thing about Manifestel being upset
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: about all this is that Manifestel almost constantly compares men
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: to rapists, murderers, child abusers, and psychopaths, and she's offended
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: by a little anatomy comment that was in poor taste?
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: So I don't really care if you say.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Hashtag no no men, you're still going to radicalize your
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: audience because they've never experienced good examples of men through
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: your content. Particularly if you say on a regular basis
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: that anyone who criticizes your extreme beliefs is acting in
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: bad faith, or as being a no-nuance Nelly. It would
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: be like if a person had a social media account
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: where he shows crime footage, but he only shows black
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: people committing the worst and most disgusting crimes. Is he
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: suddenly exonerated of spreading racial hatred if he writes hashtag
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: not all black people on every post? Because that's essentially
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: what Manifestel does. It's like her little sexism get-out-of-jail-free card.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: You don't believe the way she's speaking is a problem? Well,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: this is how race relations were in the 1990s before BLM.
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: You think of white people... White people, they straight, you know.
• 33:27
  Speaker 8: They just like me, you know.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: They straight, just, you know, they white and we black,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: To me, nothing wrong with white people.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I love them just like I love the blacks. Ain't
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: nothing wrong with the people by their color. Human, just
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: like me.
• 33:42
  Speaker 8: I'm black, just at the different color of skin. That's
• 33:44
  Speaker 8: what I am. But you find there's a difference in
• 33:47
  Speaker 8: the way you're treated by white people as opposed to
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: black people? Well, you know, they haven't treated me wrong
• 33:52
  Speaker 8: in no kind of way.
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: Never?
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: Never. I ain't never had no static with no white person.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: This is how society was when I was growing up.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: I remember this.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Nobody had a problem with each other until like 2014.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: And now, this next clip is what race relations are
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: like after a bunch of Marxists spread anti-white propaganda, not
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: unlike what Manifestel says about men.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: So all the white people here.
• 34:15
  Speaker 8: I mean, it's so bad that I've watched over.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: 30 of her videos, actually probably closer to 40 at
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: the time of recording, and I was only able to
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: find a single example of her saying positive things about men,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: and it was basically just men who were on her
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: ideological team, following a TikTok trend that she likes.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: So, uh, congrats.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Real tough one there to praise someone who already agrees
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: with you. She also praised this guy here from a comment,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: but she only agrees with him because he was crapping
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: on men, which still makes her a sexist, so I
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: don't count that. And she praised this guy who spent
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: a bunch of money on a chick, but she deleted
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: that video for some reason, so I'm not going to
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: count that. She actually deletes a lot of her content.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: In fact, a couple of days after I began doing
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: research on her, she deleted over a third of her
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: videos going from 75 videos to 48. Now, I can
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: understand if you had a bad take that you no
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: longer agree with, or you got an important piece of
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: information wrong and you want to memory hole that.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: What creator hasn't done this?
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: But to delete over 3 million views or a third
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: of her channel in one day is kind of extreme.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Why did she do that?
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Well, apparently she does it frequently, according to Tree of Logic,
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: who's watched her longer than I have.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Hold on. Let's see. Which one was it? She is
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: known for deleting videos. She did a video on that
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: black woman and got that wrong. She deleted that video.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: But there was a video she did before this one,
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: and it was so bad.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: I was like, girl, come on.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: Come on, girl.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Do some research.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she took that video down. She took that video down.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Fortunately, I've been doing this for a while, so I
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: save everything I take notes on. Otherwise, this would have
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: been a much less interesting video. But the point is
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: that saying hashtag not all men is not good enough
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: if you don't regularly humanize them to give the audience
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: an experience with men doing things correctly. In fact, she
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: actively argues against talking about what a good man is.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing, too. I get asked this a lot. Well,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: what should we look for in a man? Like, give
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: me a bullet point, a list. Like, check, check, check. Like,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: number one. We are not giving men a step-by-step of
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: how they can pretend to be the person that we like.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Don't give them a layout of what you want, okay?
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Just observe what they do for you. And if you
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: want them to do more of something, reward it positively.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: What a great civil servant. I want men to act
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: a certain way, but I won't tell them what I want.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: They just have to guess and hope they get it
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: right so I can positively reinforce it. And if they
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: don't get it right, I'm going to be quietly fuming
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: at them for something I never communicated that I wanted.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: You must be excellent at conflict resolution in a relationship.
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: You guys are so entitled that even the idea of
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: asking is offensive to you. And then when you don't
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: ask and you don't get what you didn't ask for,
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: then you complain about it on a podcast. It's crazy.
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: They don't talk.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Bitch, use your words.
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: They don't talk.
• 37:22
  Speaker 7: Use your fucking words. They don't talk, but they want
• 37:24
  Speaker 7: a man that communicates. That's wild to me.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Now, a part of the Manifestile brand is that she's
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: the spoiled girly who goes into the research. I mean,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: not that she actually does that, but it's how her
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: viewers see her. and she has a real degree, sort of,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: because she graduated in, like, biology or something. So she
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: puts a lot of research on screen to make it
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: look like she's well-read, but allow me to caution you
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: because that is often a red herring as I have
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: found while making videos, that an uncomfortable amount of people
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: do not actually read the research that they use for
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: their videos, including multiple doctors. So what I see with
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Elle is a very lazy demeanor when it comes to research,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: while trying to maintain the reputation of someone who is
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: a good fact-checker. it's not just the critical thinking fail
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: or the failure to clarify with the study that she
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: used to make her point about hypergamy, or the fact
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: that she talks about homicide in multiple videos without showing
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: the actual statistics, but Elle also very frequently cites secondary
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: sources which are like magazine articles about a study instead
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: of the original source material. This is a problem, particularly
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: when complex things are being studied, Instead of simple demographics,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: this often causes her to make stupid claims like this.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: I am so passionate about this because of the effects
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: of all this invisible labor on women, and especially women's health.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Studies have found that an imbalance in household labor is
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: associated with poor health, and domestic work has been linked
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: to pain in the neck, back, and shoulders. And even
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: cardiovascular disease.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: You've got to be kidding me. Housework causes heart disease?
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Where does that claim come from because I didn't see
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: it in anything she sourced? That article was about chronic injury.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: And if we're going to have a pissing contest about that,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: then may I point out that over 90% of workplace
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: deaths are men. You think men don't get injured doing
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: their jobs too? Anyway, even though she will sometimes go,
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: air quote, deeper into the data, though she seems to
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: frequently just quote the summary of the study, but when
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: she does go deeper, she often uses those results to
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: fearmonger the audience into thinking that traditional men.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: want to kill their wives.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: What are family annihilators? It would seem to have been Dietz, 1986,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: who first coined the term family annihilator. He described the
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: family annihilator as usually the senior man of the house
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: who is depressed paranoid, intoxicated, or a combination of these,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: and noted that he may commit suicide. after unaliving the
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: others or may force the police to unalive him. It
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: is also clear that family annihilation as well as spree
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: or serial murder is an overwhelmingly male-preserved.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: So I looked up the actual statistics for murder by
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: an intimate partner, and this study from 2021 said that 4,970
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: women were homicide victims versus 17,970 males. 34% of women
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: were victimized by an intimate partner, which comes out to 1,690.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: For comparison, according to this graph, in that same year, 12,135
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: women were killed in car accidents, which means you are
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: roughly seven times more likely to die from a car
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: crash than you are by an intimate partner. Manifestel majored
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: in a STEM field, right, so I'm sure that she
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: understands math, so why doesn't she mention how dangerous it
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: is to be around cars? We're trying to protect women, right?
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Also note that considering that men are over three times
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: more likely to be victims of murder than women... It's
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: probably best to categorize these by total number of victims
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: and not by percentage if you want an accurate picture
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: of this problem. So if you do these categories by
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: the total number of victims, it turns out that the
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: actual number of people who were victimized by intimate partners is.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: 1,690 women versus 1,078 men.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: So, uh, hey Manifestel, women abusing and killing their male
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: partners is not that infrequent. The numbers are actually way
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: closer than the title of this article suggests.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: But what a shock.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Yet another example of women most affected in a situation
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: where most of the victims are men. Not to mention
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: that the silver lining of women knowing their assailant more
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: often than men is that you can more effectively reduce
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: this problem by learning human psychology and by learning how
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: to identify predators so that you can stay away from them.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Yet instead of empowering her viewers with information like this,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Manifestel often fearmongers her audience into believing that murder is
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: something that's likely to happen to them if they don't
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: heed her warnings. She does that by saying, you can
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: never tell what kind of men these are. There are
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: no signs. It's just random.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: And the problem with previous pre-2014 perception of the family
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: annihilators was that family annihilators were painted as like these
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: obviously men unhappy and frustrated men, like men whose turmoil
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: is so visible that we think that we would know
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: if they were going to do it. But apparently, that's
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: not representative of reality. You can never really can tell.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Actually, there's a great book that teaches you how to
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: identify risk factors for extreme abusers called The Murderer Next Door.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: But do you know what the dumbest thing was?
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Elle's evidence of, this is just random, you can never
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: tell who it's going to be, comes from a text
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: that says, These men had good jobs and made a
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: lot of money. They would never do anything abusive. Are
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: you kidding me? Yeah, like a rich person has never
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: done something evil before. If you ever needed any proof
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: that graduating college doesn't make you smart or give you
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: critical thinking skills, here it is.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: The text also stated, Oh, but publicly he seemed like
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: a good husband.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Do you have any idea how many people lie about
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: the health of their relationships in public? Behind the scenes,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: there were probably a number of signs he was abusive
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: before he committed the crime. These things don't just happen
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: in a vacuum, you can learn the signs. Elle, have
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: you ever thought about doing any research on mental health?
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, how does this video actually help your audience?
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Telling them that men are a bunch of killers and
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: there's not much they can do to protect themselves. But
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: in reality, there's a lot you can do to protect
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: yourself from abusive people. First and foremost, understand that abusive people,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: male or female, tend to be very good at identifying
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: who will be an easy target. The best thing that
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: you can do is not be a good victim. One
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: of the most common ways that abusive people know that
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: you're weak is through your posture. Not only does standing
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: up straight make you more physically attractive, it also signals
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: that you're not weak. Bad posture is one of the
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: ways that bullies know which kid to pick on at school.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: They also look for people with very soft or weak voices,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: or people who aren't very assertive. Outside of that, there
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: are certain common red flags that abusers have in a relationship,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Like they call you stupid or worthless a lot, or
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: they think of excuses to isolate you from your friends
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: and family, or they increasingly try to restrict your freedom
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: against your will. So if they do those things, then
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: don't marry or have kids with them. Maybe if Elle
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: did some actual research on this stuff, she could give
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: her audience some decent advice. But wait, if she did
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: actual research, she couldn't fearmonger her audience about the frequency
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: of murder, and that's bad for views.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Late last year, this TikTok video went viral, and it reads...
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: White men because they no longer want to be a
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: married father of four, but divorce is never an option.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: And she first points the phone at her head and
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: then points it at other people, basically as a joke
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: to say that these men would threaten to do bad
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: things to themselves, but really they do bad things to
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: the people around them, aka their family. And no, I
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: cannot play the video, but check it out if you want, okay?
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: And this video was so viral because.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's a thing.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Sorry if this seems like a random tangent, but I
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: caught it during editing and I couldn't leave it out.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: So you mean to tell me that this chick flipped
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: out and went on a 22-minute rant about how disgusting
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: a comment was that a girl made about black people,
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: but if a black person makes a joke calling white
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: men a bunch of mass shooters who will harm their
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: own families, that's something that your audience just has to watch?
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I'm so tired of these fucking racist virtue signaling to everyone.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Either all of this stuff is okay, or none of
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: it's okay. These people will say the most racist shit,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: and then when someone makes half a joke back at them,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: they'll spend like 10 hours crying about it.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Anyway, sorry for the tangent. Let's finish the fear-mongering clip.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: But it's a lot more common than once in a
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: blue moon. And honestly, the girlies are already starting to
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: talk about it.
• 45:09
  Speaker 8: Someone said, It's like a universal agreement that this is
• 45:11
  Speaker 8: how they will handle it. Even when they simply lose
• 45:13
  Speaker 8: a job, this is their reaction.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: And one of the main reasons I wanted to talk
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: about this today is because it does need to be studied. Okay,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: we are in the midst of the so-called male loneliness crisis,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: aka men's F around and find out era.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Actually, look at the murder rates, Al.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: All cases of murder are like 5.5 people per 100,000,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: and spousal homicides are way less than that. This is
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: a very rare occurrence, and you've shown no evidence that
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: murder is an increasing problem over the past 10, 20,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: or 30 years. It's been going down. Even after it
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: spiked during COVID, it's still going down. I mean, you
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: brag about being a STEM major, but did you forget
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: everything from your stats class? Because your negligence on the
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: research here is stunning. I am genuinely shocked that you
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: can read an entire book and watch like a hundred
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: episodes of Criminal Minds, but you can't spend five seconds
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: googling a very obvious question like, what are the homicide
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: rates in America? I'm not even being hyperbolic about how
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: insane the fear-mongering is, as Manifestel literally suggests that becoming
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: a trad wife will get you killed.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: So today's class is to shed a light on this
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: very disturbing phenomenon and how the trends that are rising
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: right now, such as the increased proliferation of trad wife
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: content and the adoption of trad wife lifestyle, predicts the
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: rise of family annihilators.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: What exactly is your evidence of this? Do you even
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: have like a correlative graph of trad wife relationships going up?
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: followed by an increasing murder rate? No, because the murder
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: rates are going down. So where do we get this
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: correlation of TikTok influencers promoting traditionalism, leading to increased homicide?
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: And if you think I'm overblowing this issue, you want
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: to gaslight me? about how this is not a real problem,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: listen to this.
• 46:49
  Speaker 8: If you are in the true crime community, you would
• 46:51
  Speaker 8: know how scary accurate this is. It needs to be
• 46:53
  Speaker 8: studied truly.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: It's a thing. It's a big thing. It's a known thing.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: And it's a thing that should be studied so that
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: we could prevent it. And it is so big that
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Criminal Minds, the TV series, did multiple episodes on this topic,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: showing all the different iterations of Family Annihilators. They did
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: at least one episode on Family Annihilators in season one. 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: and 13. Oh yeah?
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: You don't think this is a problem? Well, there was
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: a TV show that did a lot of episodes on it.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: I bet you can't argue against that. You can't be serious, Elle.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Where is your education? Now, I haven't shown this, but
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: she uses the term media literacy a lot. So Elle,
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: if you're a media illiterate, then where is your understanding
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: that seeing something on TV a lot doesn't mean it's
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: genuinely a frequent occurrence? I mean, when I was a kid,
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: I thought I had a high chance of dying in
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: quicksand because every movie had quicksand in it. Yet in
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: all my life, I've never encountered quicksand before. Again, you've
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: got to be kidding me. How does this media illiterate
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: spoiled girly not know that over-reporting bad things is a
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: very common news tactic to make people think that those
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: things happen more frequently than they actually do?
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: Anyway, next she says this.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Did you know that women are the main consumers of
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: true crime? Which is funny, I mean, not funny, but interesting,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: because we are also the main victims of violent crime.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Actually, men are more often the victims of violent crime,
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: and when it comes to murder, most of the victims
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: are men. Again, these are simple numbers that take seconds
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: to look up. Seriously, Elle, you should sue the college
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: that you went to for not teaching you research methodology.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: But maybe I shouldn't be this generous, because honestly... Her
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: research is so bad that mixed with everything else, it's
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: hard to not attribute it to open malice towards men.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Not only are we living in a crisis of masculinity
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: and male loneliness, we are also living in an uncertain
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: economy where industries are facing great disruption by new technology.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: What happens when these men who have all this responsibility
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: face job loss, business failure, loss of money? loss of status,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: and loss of face. What happens when we create a
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: society filled with the perfect conditions for a family annihilator?
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: You get the rise of family annihilators. When they can
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: no longer perform masculine by being the breadwinner, the decision maker,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: the big boss, they resort to crime as a last
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: resort performance of masculinity so that they can feel good
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: about themselves. Crime by men is a form of social
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: practice invoked as a resource when other resources are unavailable
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: for accomplishing masculinity. And apparently, men are socialized to accomplish
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: masculinity by hurting women and children.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, after that comment, I see no reason to give
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: you any charitability. With no evidence other than someone else's
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: opinion in a book that you read and a Google
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: Trends search, you said that men are socialized to kill
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: women and children. Not only that, but she also says,
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: if you thought the problem wasn't bad enough, lots of
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: men are going to lose their jobs in the future,
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: and because of that, this creates the perfect conditions for
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: men to start murdering their families left and right. You
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: do understand how the audience is going to perceive this, right?
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Because you basically never show good examples of men, because
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: you don't go over the actual numbers even though they're
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: easy to look up, And because you many times say
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: that this problem is getting worse, despite the evidence contradicting you,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: your audience is going to leave with the emotional judgment
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: that all men, or almost all men, are bad. This
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: is exactly what the manosphere does. They fill their shows
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: up with prostitutes or the most delusional women they can find,
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: and they say, look, this is how most women or
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: all women behave. Anyway, like I was saying, it's disgusting
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: how little research someone can get away with and have
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: people believe them, if they just pull a random number
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: out of their ass, or put a quote from a
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: book on screen. Elle said that men commit crime as
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: a way of accomplishing masculinity when other resources are unavailable,
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: and basically used that to suggest that if a traditional
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: man gets laid off, he will kill his wife and
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: his family.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: Did she directly say that?
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: No, she didn't directly say it, but this is how
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: you will perceive the message emotionally as a viewer, because
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: she's not regularly showing positive examples to counteract the negative ones.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: Where did she even get that info? Well, she quoted
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: it from a 2012 article from the International Journal of Law, Crime,
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: and Justice. That sounds really official, right? However, if you
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: go to the paper and you find the quote, it
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: doesn't come from that article.
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: It comes from this.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: 30-year-old book on page 85, and when you read it,
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: you find out that it's just someone's opinion. someone's opinion
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: who spent two whole pages quoting other people's opinions. Like,
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: he didn't even do a study on it, he just
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: read some books and said, this is what I think.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Yet Manifestel presents this information as if it was a
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: fact that came from a study that was testing for this.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: That being said, to my regular viewers, do you remember
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: when I did the Illumation video and I talked about people,
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: especially Marxist and radical leftists like Robin DiAngelo, just quoting
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: their friends and printing it as scientific fact? Well, here's
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: yet another example of that. So did Manifestel read the
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: source of this quote to evaluate the validity of the
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: claim before she essentially stated it as fact for her video?
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: No.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: She probably didn't even know that it came from a
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: 30-year-old book because she quoted the journal article that used
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: it instead of citing the actual book. So here's a
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: little lesson in research methodology. When you read like a
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: systemic review or a book or a study that quotes
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: another study... then you need to read the source material
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: of the thing that you're quoting to evaluate the claim
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: before you say shit like this.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: And what do all the other men do about it? Okay,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: almost nothing. Because evil men make mediocre men look good.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: That's why. Famicide is off the charts, and they want
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: us to repopulate the earth. So what? So evil men
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: can depopulate it? Okay, they want us to bring life
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: into a world that celebrates psychopathic men?
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Nobody has done anything about the homicide rates that are falling,
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: by the way. And this world celebrates psychopathic men. Again,
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: this is not like an uncommon point from her. She
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: gives this sentiment of violence from men and blows it
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: way out of proportion in a lot of her videos.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: And when it comes to everything else, she gives the
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: most unfair, one-sided assessment that she can give and basically
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: never criticizes women for things that they also do.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Why do we have to be good at everything? And
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: why are the men good at nothing? Like, tell me
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: why are women picking men who are good at nothing?
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: Tell me why weaponized incompetence or incompetence period is still
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: not an ick, okay? Like, if a man doesn't have
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: basic adult survival skills, like, that is a child. Like,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: you're really telling me you can't cook pasta? You can't
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: microwave a meal?
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, as if no woman on earth has ever weaponized
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: incompetence to get out of work. Yet she only points
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: out men doing it. And don't worry, I have more.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: She throws out a lot of these one-sided arguments.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Whenever women express their desire for material manifestations of a
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: man's love, a nice ring, a nice date, a nice house,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: a nice whatever, we get told, Who do you think
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: you are?
• 53:51
  Speaker 8: You don't deserve that.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Yet, no one bats an eye when a man says.
• 53:54
  Speaker 8: I want a nice wife. I want a nice-looking wife.
• 53:57
  Speaker 8: I want a nice home. I want all the nice
• 53:59
  Speaker 8: products of a woman's labor.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: No one tells them, Who do you think you are?
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: You don't deserve that. No one tells these men, Who
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: do you think you are?
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: To want a wife.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: When you're not husband material, when you're broke and unable
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: or unwilling to provide. You don't deserve that, okay? No
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: one tells these men that they don't deserve women when
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: they're not good partners to begin with.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: What are you talking about? Women make fun of incels
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: all the time. In fact, it's a very common insult
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: to aim at men when they express standards for the
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: kinds of women that they want. Has she ever ventured
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: out of the nest before, or is she just in
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: that echo chamber 24-7? She's also kind of leaving out
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: the part where when these women request a material manifestation
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: of a man's love, she means like a $ 5 million home,
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: a $ 40, 000 engagement ring, and 10 expensive luxury vacations a year.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: That's why people are making fun of you. You're promoting
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: the idea that men should only have access to a
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: relationship if they're in like the top 1-5% of earners,
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: and I don't think statements like that are going to
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: hurt men nearly as much as it's going to make
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: a ton of women single who would have otherwise been
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: in happy marriages. All of the normal men are just
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: going to laugh at you for saying something ridiculous and
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: move on to someone who isn't so far removed from reality.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: Okay, one more.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: So, we're not doing that anymore. Because like I said,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of the feminine, divine, receiving energy era men,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: they love studying women.
• 55:16
  Speaker 8: What do women want? Let me pretend to be this person.
• 55:19
  Speaker 8: Until I have trapped her.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, so we're not doing that anymore. Don't give them
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: a layout of what you want.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: Women do this shit too. It's called being a pick-me.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: You use that word all the time. Are you really
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: this biased? Have you ever once thought from the perspective
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: of a man? No woman has ever misrepresented herself before
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: in a relationship.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: Only men do that. The bias here is insane.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: She doesn't care. She is so focused on men bad.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: This is like.
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: The second or third video that she done That involves
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: men where she does not call out the women. Don't
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: listen to women who are that tribal and biased. Don't
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: do this. They hate men so much that they will
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: not hold women accountable. You don't want to deal with
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: these type of women. They are just as bad as
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: the red pillers.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: She cries about men having no empathy for women. And
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: I have a hard time believing that she's not just
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: self-reporting here because she clearly has zero empathy for men.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: Like this is some strong projection. But going back to
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: the weaponized incompetence thing, well, not really, but we're going
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: to talk about a video she did about weaponized incompetence.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: So sort of going back to that topic, this was
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: probably the worst video of hers that I watched in
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: terms of relationship advice, as I watched her brag about
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: poisoning a girl who had a good time on a date.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Since we're already on the topic, let's talk about how
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: to make the world a better place. You need to
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: stop being impressed with the bare minimum. And you need
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: to teach the spoiled girlies around you to not be
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: impressed by the bare minimum. Let me tell you a story.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: I have a girlfriend, and she's a little younger than me.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: And this happened a long time ago. And she tells
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: me about this date that she went on and she
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: was talking about how the guy paid and that was
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: really nice. And I literally turned to her and I
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: was like, wow, the bare minimum, he paid for the date.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: What else?
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: And she was literally fangirling over this fact. And I
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: get it because she was younger and it was like,
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: you know, her first few dates, you know, kind of dating.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, we need to reset the wiring here.
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: That's the bare minimum. Like, you shouldn't be fangirling over that. Okay? Wow.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: The bare minimum.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: This chick is so hard to agree with because while
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be caught dead having a woman pay for
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: a date, she is so condescending when she says this
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: stuff that it makes me want to do the polar opposite.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: On top of that, we have yet again her arguing
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: to be in an echo chamber.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: Like, you're not even a spoiled girly. Like, why are
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: you not spoiling your comments?
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: Okay?
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: Like, make it make sense.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: Good. Keep thinking like that.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Continuing to have bad takes because you don't ever talk
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: to people who disagree with you is great for content.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: Keep being that low-hanging fruit for other creators. Keep making
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: the mistake of not listening to your enemies.
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: You should love your enemy. So you might say, well,
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: why should you do that? Well, your enemy is going
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: to be your harshest critic. Now, it's possible that if
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: you have a very good enemy, that he will show
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: you flaws in your character that you didn't know were there.
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: The more vicious the attack, the more of your potential
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: hidden flaws might be revealed.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: Have you found that to be true?
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: Oh, definitely.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: Yep, your enemies don't give a shit about your feelings,
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: so they will always be the people who tell you
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: exactly what's wrong with you and exactly how to improve yourself.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: But instead of listening to the opposition, Elle is busy
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: congratulating herself for making a friend miserable who was previously happy.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: So when I told her that, like, wow, the bare minimum,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: she was like, oh my god, you're so right! So
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: now whenever we would hear stories about men doing the
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: bare minimum, we're like, wow, the bare minimum. Like, wow,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: the bare minimum. Like, okay, give me more. So this
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: is a cheat code for all the girlies who have
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: not received positive behavior, positive treatment from men thus far. Okay,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: this will really help. Just in your head, say, wow,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: the bare minimum. And it will help you be so
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: unimpressed and so unbothered. Like, wow, the bare minimum.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: That's impressive. This chick really knows how to cause a divorce.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: Do you know what the great thing about this line
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: of thinking is? If you spend most of your time
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: practicing being ungrateful for everyday things, then even when he
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: does go above and beyond, you aren't going to appreciate
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: that either. Gratitude comes from paying attention to and finding
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: appreciation for the little things. If you only find satisfaction
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: from expensive items or extreme experiences, then you're going to
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: be miserable most of the time. Now, of course, if
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: a guy plays video games all day and doesn't contribute
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: to the relationship, don't date that guy. If a guy
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: is physically abusive, obviously get away from him. But if
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: a guy is doing things right, then don't demean his
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: good actions by saying... That's just the bare minimum.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: And like I said, it's not to be ungrateful. It's
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: not to be a bitch. It's not to be that.
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: Gee, you could have fooled me. Because you play the
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: part really well.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: It's for your own protection. Because even when a man's
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: doing the bare minimum, you say thank you, you smile,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: you make them feel good about it. Like you positively
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: reinforce the behavior, which helps them want to do it more.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: Be dishonest about your actual feelings and use manipulative language
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: to get him to do what you want.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: That'll foster a good relationship.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, as a master of empathy, as the most
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: empathetic person on the planet, has manifest all of her thought,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: what if a guy said this to me? Elle, what
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: if a guy was with you and said, she cooked
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: for me?
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: Bare minimum.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: That sourdough bread is burnt anyway. She took the kids
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: out to the park so I could relax by myself
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: for a bit?
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: Bare minimum.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Of course she should be doing that. Women are supposed
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: to take care of the kids. She spent the whole
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: day making the house spotless? Not a big deal. The
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: house better be spotless or I'm divorcing her. because women
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: who clean are the bare minimum. No other women exist.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: Do you not see how awful and almost downright abusive
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: that way of thinking sounds? Well, to be perfectly honest,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: I doubt she's ever gotten a provider man. Unlike some
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: of her gold-digging peers who look much better on camera,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: she never wears any designer items or expensive jewelry. I mean,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: it looks like she gets most of her clothes at
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Target or Walmart. so there's no evidence that provider men
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: are spoiling her. But really, there's no way a guy
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: is pairing up with a woman this foul unless he's desperate,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: especially if he's seen her videos, so it makes sense
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: that she alludes to being single a lot.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad that women are speaking up about how
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: there's a third option. You don't have to pick between
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: a bad man and another bad man. You can choose
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: a good woman yourself.
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  Speaker 2: I could have sworn that someone had a very different
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  Speaker 2: way of framing that.
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  Speaker 7: Buy a dog and die alone.
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  Speaker 2: Last little bit on this point, I also noticed that
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  Speaker 2: Elle never actually talks about where to find a provider man,
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  Speaker 2: which is strange because her peers, like Shira, have incredibly
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  Speaker 2: specific advice on that subject. But after 30-40 videos, all
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  Speaker 2: I've seen Elle do is shit on men and tell
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  Speaker 2: women to raise their standards. She never gives advice on
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  Speaker 2: how to find a good guy, probably because she doesn't know.
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  Speaker 2: On top of that, I saw a video where she
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  Speaker 2: said that women get uglier or glow down when they're
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  Speaker 2: in a relationship with a bad man. You can read
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  Speaker 2: the subtitles on screen for the evidence. Well, recently, I've
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  Speaker 2: noticed that she's been getting less attractive. So if she's
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  Speaker 2: in a relationship right now, what does that say about
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  Speaker 2: her ability to get with a good man who is
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  Speaker 2: in his divine masculine energy? And if you think it's
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  Speaker 2: mean for me to point that out, then let me
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  Speaker 2: just say that after 30 to 40 videos of misandry,
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  Speaker 2: I don't care. More importantly, how does all of this
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  Speaker 2: help her followers? Almost all of her content is saying
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  Speaker 2: men bad while providing no answers on how to find
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  Speaker 2: the good ones. All this is going to do is
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  Speaker 2: make her audience hate men and be unable to find
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  Speaker 2: a partner who they like, which is just going to
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  Speaker 2: demoralize them. And honestly, this ties really well into the
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  Speaker 2: whole woke thing because the entire woke radical leftist narrative
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  Speaker 2: is obviously designed to demoralize and depress people by constantly
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  Speaker 2: talking about problems but never talking about effective solutions. So
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  Speaker 2: like I said earlier, what did you change, Elle? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: where's the light at the end of the tunnel here?
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  Speaker 2: If you actually had empathy for your viewers, you wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: sit there and blackpill them like that. How does anyone
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  Speaker 2: think that Elle understands what empathy is after saying stuff
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  Speaker 2: like this?
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  Speaker 1: My standards for men are so high because my standards
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  Speaker 1: for myself are so high. If I can treat others
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  Speaker 1: well and be mindful of their emotions, be mindful of
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  Speaker 1: their workload, it is not a big ask. To want
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  Speaker 1: a partner who has that same mindfulness. Like, is it
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  Speaker 1: so bad to ask for someone who is my equal?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you show mindfulness for men's workload by calling it
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  Speaker 2: bare minimum. Now, it's been a while since I've said this,
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  Speaker 2: but anytime someone publicly gasses themselves up about how great
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  Speaker 2: they are, it's an immediate red flag. People who are
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  Speaker 2: good don't have to virtue signal about how good they
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  Speaker 2: are because others will say it for them. If someone
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  Speaker 2: has to constantly say that they're empathetic, then they aren't empathetic.
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  Speaker 2: And if they have the strong need to publicly praise
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  Speaker 2: themselves for being good, then they're probably a narcissist. Allow
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  Speaker 2: me to show you just how empathetic Elle is.
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  Speaker 1: There was that Reddit thread about how men don't want
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  Speaker 1: women who... Not that we care about what they want.
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  Speaker 1: It's just a thing, okay?
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  Speaker 2: A stunning example of empathy right there. You showed those
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  Speaker 2: below bare minimum effort men how to properly care about
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  Speaker 2: another person. Sarcasm aside, why in the hell would you
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  Speaker 2: expect a man to be empathetic towards you... when this
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  Speaker 2: is how you speak about men, I mean, you had
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  Speaker 2: to pause what you were saying to make sure that
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  Speaker 2: you told your audience that you don't care about men. Ultimately,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: the problem with this type of content is that it's
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  Speaker 2: terrible advice for the long term, especially when you talk
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  Speaker 2: about marriage, which is what these people are looking for.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: They're looking for a successful marriage. And here's the thing,
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  Speaker 2: this idealistic portrayal of how a successful relationship should be
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  Speaker 2: from people like Fresh and Fit or Manifestel, where everything
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  Speaker 2: just goes your way and your partner is perfect all
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  Speaker 2: the time or you'll break up with them, is a
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  Speaker 2: very toxic way to view a relationship. Personally, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think I've known anyone who's been married for a long
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  Speaker 2: time who hasn't gone through a rough period or hasn't
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  Speaker 2: gone through at least one divorce-worthy argument. Marriages are difficult,
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  Speaker 2: especially when kids are involved, and what I've never heard
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  Speaker 2: any of these channels do is talk about how to
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  Speaker 2: resolve conflict or give people reasons to stay, which is
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  Speaker 2: weird because when you talk to real people who have
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  Speaker 2: been together for like 10 plus years, how to deal
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  Speaker 2: with arguments is like one of the first pieces of
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  Speaker 2: advice they give. Because in a relationship, you're going to
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  Speaker 2: disagree on a lot of things, so if you actually
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  Speaker 2: want things to go well, then this whole my way
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  Speaker 2: or the highway mentality is going to result in a
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: breakup or a divorce. And the even bigger problem with this, society-wide,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: is that people in general, especially people who use the
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: internet a lot, have been moving away from compromise, are
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: moving away from understanding the ideas from other people's perspectives,
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  Speaker 2: and are moving away from forgiveness. Both the manosphere and
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: the gold digger spaces are so focused on blaming everyone
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  Speaker 2: else and are so lacking in empathy that they can't
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  Speaker 2: see stuff like this. So here's a lesson in empathy
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  Speaker 2: for people who struggle with it like our spoiled girlie.
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  Speaker 2: If something goes wrong, ask yourself, how are my actions
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  Speaker 2: contributing to the problem, and if I was the other person,
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  Speaker 2: how would I see this situation?
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  Speaker 3: What would I think the root of the problem is?
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  Speaker 2: If you start asking yourself those questions, all of your
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  Speaker 2: relationships will get better. Anyway, thanks for watching, follow me
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  Speaker 2: on Twitter, and I'll see you in the next video.