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  laced up. Let's go! It's time for Banter with
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  the Boys. Welcome back to Banter with the Boys.
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  Gridiron updates. Our week 5 tent talk. That
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  was my tent. Oh, nice. That was a tent. I thought
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  it was a really crappy skull. And I was like,
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  what is going on? But no, it's a tent. Nice.
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  I like it. Thank you. Official. Thanks for bringing
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  that to Tent Talk. Well, thanks for having me.
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  So we'll turn his mic off for the rest of the
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  time. He's contributed. Jake, thanks for being
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  here again. Thanks for having me. A Ravens fan.
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  We're lucky to have you. Or unlucky. Well, maybe
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  just this week. I don't know. Anyway, let's just
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  get right into injuries here. Tyreek Hill, I
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  mean, probably the biggest one, right? If you
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  saw it, it was gruesome. Multiple torn ligaments
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  with a dislocated knee. He's probably done for
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  the season. Gross. Not for his career after that.
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  It's a very long road from that particular injury.
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  So we'll see and hope for the best for him. Malik
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  Neighbors also went down with a torn ACL. Done
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  for the season. Ouch. Very similar to the whole
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  Odell Beckham Jr. saga. Did you see his tweet?
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  Who? OBJ. Uh -uh. Asking the NFL to get rid of
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  the field turf. Bring back the natural grass.
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  I was just looking up to see where the Dolphins
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  played, but they played at home and that's on
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  grass. I'm going to bring Tyreek's injury back
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  up here in the news portion because I got a question
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  about that. Lamar, if you were listening to our...
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  Recap episode. We talked about Lamar Jackson
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  going down with a hamstring injury. With a hammy.
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  Who's technically listed as day -to -day, but
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  Jake's telling us he could miss two to three.
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  Two to three weeks. Ouch. And hammies are lingering.
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  Yes, they are. Especially with that skill set.
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  And being one in three right now, they've got...
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  two games before they hit their bye week in week
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  seven. You think just wait? Yeah, I think just
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  wait and just take worst -case scenario. They
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  go into the bye week or come out of the bye week
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  one and five. So you're predicting owls across
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  the board, then? Yep, spoilers on the picks.
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  No, I'm just being realistic here. I'm predicting
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  owls. Even if they come out one and five, they
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  still have 12 games. or no they have 11 games
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  and they need to win they probably just need
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  to win nine ten yeah ten and seven yeah go ten
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  and seven the rest of the way and probably still
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  make the playoffs there's a chance Then it's
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  a new season. Does that win the division there,
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  10 -7? Maybe. I think it depends on how this
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  dealer's offense continues to evolve and progress
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  over the course of the year. Dang, maybe 10 -7
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  is enough to win the AFC North. That's interesting.
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  I definitely want to say no. That's just my gut
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  for the AFC North in general. 10 -7 is never
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  enough. Well, the North is notorious for beating
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  each other up. Yes. And unfortunately, the Bengals
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  aren't going to be. Well, maybe the Bengals are
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  going to get more competitive as the year goes
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  on. It's not looking good. Not looking good at
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  all. Not looking good. Let's see. Jane Daniels,
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  Commander's quarterback, looking to play this
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  week, allegedly. He could make his triumphant
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  return. What was his injury again? It was a knee.
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  Trey Benson, Arizona running back. He is now
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  to IR done for four weeks. They just keep dropping
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  in Arizona. I feel bad for all of the James Conner
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  fantasy football owners who picked up Trey or
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  traded for Trey. In my league, somebody gave
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  up next year's first -round pick for Trey. Really?
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  Oh, that's really aggressive in the first place.
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  No, no, no. Even if he's healthy the rest of
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  the year. Yeah. Let's see. Bucky Irving, Tampa
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  Bay running back. Seems to be day -to -day right
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  now with a foot -slash -ankle injury. Couldn't
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  find anything more on that at the moment. He's
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  in a boot. Boot. Brian O 'Neal. Okay, these are
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  just a couple Viking ones. These are the ones
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  that matter. You can bring some in here. Yeah,
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  these are the ones that really matter. Brian
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  O 'Neal, obviously right tackle for the Vikes.
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  He's week to week. Probably more likely to see
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  him back after the bye, which sucks. Ryan Kelly,
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  Viking Center, second concussion this season.
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  I mean, that's just who knows at that point,
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  right, when you get another one. J .J. McCarthy
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  update. The sprained ankle is doing better, but
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  definitely not 100%, so it sounds like the Vikings
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  will not. Be rushing him back. So after bye,
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  potentially, for J .J. McCarthy. That makes sense.
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  But I guess, really, you start thinking how long.
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  How much additional time do you give them after
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  the bye? Do you bring them back right away? I
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  think so. It depends on where's the ankle at.
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  You know what I mean? Where's it actually at,
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  those sprained ankles? That's another lingering
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  one. I don't think it's a high ankle sprain because
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  those definitely linger a lot longer, but everything
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  I found was just sprained ankles. But I don't
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  know. Especially with the Vikings taking the
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  L this last week, it's really simmered down.
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  Like, nope, Carson Wentz is our quarterback of
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  the future. It's kind of simmered that whole
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  conversation down. Now everyone's more of, But,
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  like, I think J .J. needs to come back. God,
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  dude. I'm just saying how the world works, Tyler.
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  It's true. Take a step back. That's right. I
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  mean, if they all had podcasts, they would tell
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  us. For sure. Yeah, they would. The internet
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  is very fickle. They are. Very wind -changing.
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  I mean, it's with every team, right? The fans
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  are just so... You know what I mean? Like, oh,
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  my God. Anyway. I remember we wanted to start
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  a Joe Webb in the playoffs. Yeah. Wow. I had
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  really high hopes, too, but I was young and dumb
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  for that Joe Webb game, by the way. All right,
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  all right, all right. News, news, news. This
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  really isn't news, but Robert makes his return
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  to our show. Robert Sala and Liam Cohen exchanged
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  some words after the game. I guess Robert was
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  just saying something along the lines of, you
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  guys are doing a good job legally stealing signs,
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  and it was just this whole thing, and now he
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  kind of came out today and was like, well. I
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  shouldn't have said that. Like, I'm just mad,
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  you know. So, I don't know. Did you guys see
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  anything more on that? Did you even see that?
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  No, I did not see anything. It was a really brief
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  exchange at, like, midfield, but it wasn't anything
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  crazy. I like the competitiveness. Yeah. If you're
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  not cheating, you're not trying, right? Exactly.
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  Amen. Yeah. There it is. Go Astros. There it
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  is. Wow. Sorry, I'm about five seconds behind.
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  Let's see. I don't know why I put this in here.
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  I just find this interesting, and now it makes
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  me want to do, like, a little spin -off random
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  show. Or not show, just a random episode this
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  winter. Oh, yeah. About stadiums and funding
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  and all that. But anyway, Bears looking for $855
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  million in public funding for their new stadium
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  in the suburbs. That would, quote, host Super
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  Bowls and Final Fours, which, I mean. let's be
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  real, suburb of Chicago, they probably would
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  get bids for all sorts of things. So you could
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  argue there. My problem with stuff like that
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  is I feel like they always inflate the numbers
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  of how much money it's actually going to bring
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  in. You know, oh, it's going to create all this
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  new revenue, and it never is the case for stadiums.
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  So I'm just, that's where I want to do a little
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  tidbit episode and go off on a tangent real quick.
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  We'll dig deep into it one night. Yeah, anyway,
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  so anyway, I just want to throw that in there.
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  I think the bring Super Bowl, well, it's going
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  to. They'll get one Super Bowl. At least. I mean,
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  it's Chicago. Right. Well, they'll do a dome
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  probably. So I've got, I mean, it's Chicago.
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  Why? You're in the north. Why are you doing a
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  dome? Oh, because corporate money is king. taking
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  away part of the football experience. No, I totally
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  agree with you, but I'm also a realist of understanding
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  that corporate money carries a lot of weight
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  in those scenarios. And I've been to a Chicago
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  game before. I love going down to that park,
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  but getting in and out of there is horrible.
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  So I definitely think they're going to end up
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  moving because what they built inside of the
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  old Memorial Stadium was a spaceship. So actually,
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  if they do move, they'll rip that down and have
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  still at least the outside and still have a park.
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  there or some kind of field is what I heard the
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  plans was. Oh, they would put a field there?
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  Yeah, I heard that they would do high school
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  or college. That would be really cool. And then
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  do concert events there too, obviously. That
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  would be cool. I can definitely see it's time
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  to move out of that particular area of Chicago.
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  I do like downtown stadiums in general, but it's
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  just tough to get in and out of. Well, then I'll
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  have to build a new one where it is now. I just
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  don't see it. The logistics get weird. We did
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  it here. Minnesota, but that was weird because
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  you're playing at TCF Bank Stadium for three
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  years. But it's also not wrapped around a historical
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  site, too. That's the thing. The challenge is
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  the construction itself. We went deep there in
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  stadiums. I'm telling you, I could do a whole
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  episode. Tell me this summer. One other rant.
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  You're a football organization. You're your own
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  business. Why are you not building your own stadium
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  like Jerry Jones? That's a great question. There
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  it is. Part of the show. Answer that. We're writing
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  the episode as we go. There we go. Here we go.
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  That'll be the title. Let's see. Comment on that,
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  please. Let us know your thoughts on stadium
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  funding and stuff. I'm very, very curious about
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  that. Please let me know. Anyway, I'm nerding
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  out right now. All right. Bad Bunny is a Super
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  Bowl halftime show. Sorry, Taylor Swift. I would
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  have preferred Taylor Swift. Did you think she
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  was a lock for halftime show? All of the rumors
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  that I was like, oh, Taylor Swift. I'm like,
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  no, it's not going to be Taylor Swift. I would
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  prefer Taylor Swift over Bad Bunny, but it'll
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  be good. It'll be great. Are you a big Bunny
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  fan? There's a couple songs in the play. Really?
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  Okay. All right. Xavier Howard, Indianapolis
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  DB, is set to retire. Set to retire after yesterday.
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  I was just reading an article this morning about
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  how teams have been picking on him lately. He's
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  just not quite keeping up to start the season.
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  Everybody's thinking that he'd be able to work
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  through it this season and get back up. Now he
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  decided it's time. There's that. Best of luck
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  to you in your ventures. The contract would probably
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  mess with that if B -Flow I think he's still
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  got it. Come to the Vikings for a little bit.
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  They used to be together. See if he can fix them.
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  I wonder how that would work with the contract.
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  He's done, dude. He's done. Do you want the Vikings
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  trading draft capital for him? No. Not if he's
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  considering retirement. So there's a weird A
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  .J. Brown post, social post, after the game that
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  he ended up saying he was just frustrated because
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  he wanted the ball. He said, quote, I want the
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  pressure. I put it on myself. I work hard for
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  it, which I can respect that. That's why he's
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  working hard because he wants to be in those
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  moments. He wants that situation. But the quote
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  was, actually, it was a Bible verse, Mark 6,
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  11. If you're not welcome to not listen to, quietly
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  withdraw. Don't make a scene. Shrug your shoulders
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  and be on your way. What else does he want? He's
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  4 -0. He doesn't want the Super Bowl. How do
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  you not read that as cryptic, though? You know
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  what I mean? For sure. You just got it? That's
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  a diva play if I heard one. But then he came
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  out and said it's not and blah, blah, blah. Well,
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  yeah, because his PR person was just blowing
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  up his phone. He's like, yo, come on. Delete
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  that. You got to delete that. I already have
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  an apology written up for you. Post that. Yeah,
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  right. They probably do. No, for sure they do.
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  Come on, meow. Come on, meow. Let's see. Jerry
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  Jones, he came out and said that he paid Dak
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  and not Micah because Dak is indispensable. Agreed.
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  So there it is, straight from the horse's mouth.
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  He said something along the lines, too, it's
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  not personal, but obviously everybody's going
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  to view that as personal. But, well, you look
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  like your thinker is thinking. Yeah, my thinker
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  is thinking. And, yeah, Dak is, what, irreplaceable.
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  Or whatever. Indispensable. Indispensable, because
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  if you look... He's a starting quarterback in
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  the NFL. Then there's not a lot of those quality
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  ones, so yeah. Index, arguably a top 15. Yeah.
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  I mean, if Joel Flacco at 43 could still find
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  a job in the NFL, that's how desperate the NFL
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  is for someone that is capable of running that
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  position. That's a great point. Fair enough.
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  I mean, Micah Parsons, with the tie, I think
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  that's an L for them. You know, like the Cowboys
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  almost kind of won that deal. So, real quick,
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  I just have two quick questions, then we actually
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  got to end this. Unless you can make your fantasy
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  minute uber quick, because I really want to ask
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  you guys these questions. Do you like games ending
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  in a tie in the NFL? Cowboys -Packers ended in
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  a tie. Yes, I do. How do you feel about that?
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  Well, I almost like the first rule. If the first
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  team scores a touchdown, then it's over. Now
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  both teams get possession. Which I personally
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  like. I like both teams getting an opportunity
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  to possess the ball and not the luck of the coin.
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  But then you just make the argument, well, if
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  the defense stands up and plays, then you get
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  the ball back anyway. I don't know. Is there
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  ever going to be a right way to finish it? I
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  don't think there is. Maybe you extend the duration
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  of overtime. So like 4 o 'clock in the morning?
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  No, just like to 15 minutes instead of 10. You
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  could theoretically, as an offensive team, run
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  the whole clock, kick a field goal, and leave
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  no time for your opponent to come back at all
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  and try and get anything. Which kind of happened.
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  Yeah. Interesting. I don't mind that it ended
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  in a tie. As a viewer watching football, it was
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  an anticlimactic ending because you're kicking
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  a field goal as time expires, and that's the
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  game. Well, the most exciting part was Jordan
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  loved snapping the ball with six seconds left.
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  I was so frustrated with the Green Bay Packers.
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  I don't understand if they knew that they were
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  running the ball on second down. They should
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  have had two plays called because they were out
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  of timeouts. So you run the ball and then quickly
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  run your second play. Like they huddle scrambled
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  to get that next playoff and almost ran out of
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  time. Yeah. All right. So my next question real
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  quick. You only looked at the Tyreek Hill injury
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  once, right? And you were good. Yep. Okay. How
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  many times did you watch it? Zero. Damn it. Well,
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  this doesn't work then. I watched it a lot. Because
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  the comments kept saying the gator roll is what
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  caused the injury. So when you come up and you
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  tackle, you gator roll them to the ground. Just
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  take their legs out. You know what I mean? But
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  there's usually not injuries like that. That
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  doesn't usually happen. So my thought was when
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  I was watching it, I was like, I don't think
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  the gator roll caused that. You can see his leg.
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  It looked like it was already kind of like. mid
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  -snap on the sideline, and he was gator -rolling
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  the back leg, which was the one that didn't break.
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  So I was like, no, the gator -roll did not cause
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  that injury. I mean, I can get my puke bucket
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  ready and just watch it over and over again and
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  message back with you later. I'm just curious
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  what you guys think. I saw the news, at least
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  the update, where Tyreek was getting carted off,
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  and I saw the aircast, and instantly I was just
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  like, nah, I don't need to see this more than
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  once. Yeah, you already know it's bad. You already
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  know it's bad. All right, uber quick, minute
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  fantasy, go. What do you got? Oh, I mean, there's
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  a ton of pickups. Who are you replacing for Trey
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  Benson? Trey Benson. There's a rookie down there.
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  I forgot what his name is. Otherwise, big injuries.
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  We're going to call him rookie. I mean, San Francisco,
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  pretty much everyone's hurt. If you're not an
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  owner of Marvis and Harrison Jr., do you try
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  and trade low right now? Or buy low on them?
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  Because, I mean, he had an okay game, but he
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  essentially created two turnovers for Arizona.
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  True. His problem is drops right now, you know,
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  for statistics and fantasy -wise. Lamar hurt.
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  I mean, there's just a lot of injuries, especially
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  on the quarterback side. Also, you're looking
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  at Zay Flowers, Bateman. Henry should get a little
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  bit of a pickup on that aspect. You'd think,
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  but he's going to see eight - and nine -man fronts
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  now because you know they're going to run the
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  ball. Yeah. Yeah, you know they're not going
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  to trust Cooper Rush unless he's on the Cowboys
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  playing the Vikings. Other than that, for fantasy,
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  I mean, Mbuka's still rookie of the year. We
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  talked to him in fantasy. Puka blew up. There's
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  just a ton of injuries, so there's going to be
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  a lot of unknown guys in the next week or two
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  that you're going to start. You're going to see
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  these little one guy blow up and everyone's going
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  to spend a ton of money on them scenarios coming
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  up right now. So manage your money. Team management
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  right now is key for fantasy football, especially
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  if you're a team with a lot of injuries. And
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  we're entering bye weeks. Yeah, and try to get
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  creative with some, you know, like you say, buying
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  low on Harrison and stuff like that. So if he
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  did stack in a certain position, this is the
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  time to use that capital to try to go fill a
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  position that you've lost on neighbors or something
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  like that. So that's my fantasy minute. Boom.
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  Boom. Love it. Love it. Yeah, we got to end it,
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  gentlemen. Excuse me. Wow. Thanks for being here
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  this week, both of you, especially for this tent
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  talk episode. Yeah. Oh, they did it at the same
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  time. I did not expect that. That's got to be
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  the thumbnail. All right. Don't forget to like,
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  the cameras as well. Thanks, Kev. Because whether
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