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- 0:37Jennifer Johnson: Let's talk about self-care.
- 0:38Jennifer Johnson: What is self-care?
- 0:40Jennifer Johnson: Well, it's the practice of taking care of yourself physically, mentally and emotionally.
- 0:45Jennifer Johnson: It's an important time to care for yourself, even when you're busy, and it can help you reduce your stress and anxiety, improve your mood, your emotional well-being, it can boost your energy levels and strengthen your immune system, so you're not getting sick all the time, and it can also reduce your risk of chronic diseases.
- 1:04Jennifer Johnson: So what are some tips that you can take away from this podcast that are going to help you practice self-care?
- 1:13Jennifer Johnson: Set aside some time each day for self-care, even if it's just 10 minutes.
- 1:17Jennifer Johnson: Make some time each day to do something that you enjoy and that makes you feel good.
- 1:22Jennifer Johnson: I tell you what.
- 1:23Jennifer Johnson: I started this for me during COVID and I started taking a bath every single night and I mean every night Epsom salt bubble bath, the whole thing.
- 1:34Jennifer Johnson: It's what makes me feel good, it relaxes me.
- 1:37Jennifer Johnson: Even if I'm only in there for 10 minutes, it's what I'm doing for myself.
- 1:40Jennifer Johnson: Then you need to listen to your body.
- 1:43Jennifer Johnson: If you're feeling tired, rest.
- 1:44Jennifer Johnson: If you're feeling stressed, take a break.
- 1:47Jennifer Johnson: Pay attention to what your body needs and give it what it needs.
- 1:51Jennifer Johnson: Then eat a healthy diet.
- 1:54Jennifer Johnson: Eating nutritious food gives your body that fuel that it needs to function properly.
- 1:58Jennifer Johnson: It can also help improve your mood and your energy levels.
- 2:04Jennifer Johnson: Getting enough sleep I know I sound like a broken record.
- 2:07Jennifer Johnson: We've talked about this before, but when you're well rested, you're going to be better able to cope with the stress and manage emotions.
- 2:13Jennifer Johnson: And the experts tell us to aim for seven to eight hours of shut-eye every single night.
- 2:18Jennifer Johnson: Then exercise regularly.
- 2:21Jennifer Johnson: It's not just good for you physically, but it's also good for you emotionally.
- 2:24Jennifer Johnson: It's going to help your mental and physical well-being.
- 2:27Jennifer Johnson: And experts tell us 30 minutes a day, and I sometimes only get enough in for 20 minutes.
- 2:35Jennifer Johnson: But you know what, If I do it right away in the morning, I start my day off right and I go oh my gosh, I conquered that.
- 2:41Jennifer Johnson: I did that.
- 2:42Jennifer Johnson: It's kind of like making your bed.
- 2:43Jennifer Johnson: If you make your bed in the morning, you are set for anything.
- 2:46Jennifer Johnson: You've accomplished something and you are a success that day in making your bed.
- 2:52Jennifer Johnson: So work out early if that works for you, and then finally do something that you enjoy.
- 2:57Jennifer Johnson: Make time for activities that you really like to do.
- 3:00Jennifer Johnson: Maybe it's reading or listening to music, or cooking or walking or baking or doing a hobby, Whatever it is.
- 3:06Jennifer Johnson: You have to remember self-care is not selfish.
- 3:10Jennifer Johnson: It's essential for your overall health and well-being, and when you take care of yourself, you're going to be able to take care of other people around you.
- 3:23Jennifer Johnson: Today, we welcome into the studio Lisa Gruenloh.
- 3:26Jennifer Johnson: Lisa is a mission-driven entrepreneur with a passion for helping individuals and organizations achieve sustainable well-being and success.
- 3:34Jennifer Johnson: She is the founder and president of Purpose Journey Consulting.
- 3:38Jennifer Johnson: She does training and coaching as well, and she recently launched a journaling venture which includes a collection of unique writing journals, a subscription box which I think is so cool and a membership community.
- 3:51Jennifer Johnson: Lisa is a certified professional coach emotional intelligence coach who has also held leadership positions in a variety of corporate, government and advocacy and consulting organizations throughout the country, including Capitol Hill.
- 4:05Jennifer Johnson: That's right, I know from just talking to you in the past.
- 4:10Jennifer Johnson: You have done so much and you are such an advocate for mental health.
- 4:15Jennifer Johnson: I am yeah, yeah.
- 4:18Lisa Gruenloh: First of all, thanks for having me here, absolutely.
- 4:21Lisa Gruenloh: Oh my gosh, is this fun or what?
- 4:23Lisa Gruenloh: Yeah, you know it's interesting.
- 4:25Lisa Gruenloh: First of all, big disclaimer I am not a therapist and I'm not like a certified mental health professional.
- 4:33Lisa Gruenloh: I'm a coach and I'm a trainer and I help people with being proactive about their mental health, so I think that's important.
- 4:43Lisa Gruenloh: It's very important from the get-go, but I think the world we live in right now.
- 4:50Lisa Gruenloh: I'm already getting goosebumps, thinking about it.
- 4:53Lisa Gruenloh: I mean, it is so chaotic and challenging, there's so much human suffering and it's just so important for us to be really aware of what's going on in our mind, with our emotions, and taking personal responsibility for that.
- 5:16Jennifer Johnson: Something, and I know we're going to talk about how ways to stay mentally healthy in 2024, but before we get into that, literally just something popped into my head and I could reach down into my handbag and grab it to show our audience, but I left my bag in my handbag.
- 5:32Jennifer Johnson: I was at an event that you did and this stayed with me.
- 5:35Jennifer Johnson: People, this stayed with me.
- 5:36Jennifer Johnson: You handed out rocks.
- 5:39Jennifer Johnson: Do you know where I'm going with?
- 5:41Jennifer Johnson: this yes, you handed rocks to everybody.
- 5:42Jennifer Johnson: Yes, and you said you were talking about the ripple effect.
- 5:47Jennifer Johnson: I tell everybody about that because I'm like this is so simple yet so profound.
- 5:57Jennifer Johnson: And when you said you know there's so much suffering in this world and people just don't realize, yeah, but what people also don't realize is the ripple effect.
- 6:06Lisa Gruenloh: I want you to just talk about that for a second, because yeah, so really, every thought, emotion, choice, action we have has a ripple effect, and the ripple effect starts with us, right?
- 6:21Lisa Gruenloh: So whatever I'm thinking and feeling has a ripple effect within me, and there's a ripple effect that happens.
- 6:30Lisa Gruenloh: You know, I think of it as like a circle and I'm in the middle of it, right?
- 6:35Lisa Gruenloh: And then there's the next circle, which is my family and immediate friends and so on, and then there are the things that we care about, and then you know national and global, and when you think about whether mental health or impact right, because hopefully we're all trying to have a positive impact and that's what that session was all about, but I took it, and so everybody takes it a little bit differently.
- 7:03Lisa Gruenloh: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 7:04Lisa Gruenloh: So just being more mindful of the impact that we're having around us and it all starts really with our mental health, so just tying those two together.
- 7:16Jennifer Johnson: Right, I know I totally brought that out from left base.
- 7:19Jennifer Johnson: I realize that, right, but it made a profound impact on me, yeah.
- 7:25Lisa Gruenloh: That's amazing.
- 7:25Lisa Gruenloh: So when you say that, what changed in you or what changes have you made because of it, like, how have you activated that insight that you had?
- 7:38Jennifer Johnson: When I get a thought in my head, like if someone ticks me off, right, or I'm irritated about something, I go wait a second, let me think about this.
- 7:48Jennifer Johnson: Maybe what was their head, what were they thinking?
- 7:53Jennifer Johnson: Or, you know, somebody cuts me off in traffic, I go well, ok, maybe they had a bad day, right.
- 8:01Jennifer Johnson: I think about that.
- 8:02Jennifer Johnson: And then also, if I'm going to say something about something, I think about the ripple effect that I may have on somebody by saying it.
- 8:11Lisa Gruenloh: Right.
- 8:12Jennifer Johnson: So just a simple symbol of a rock made me because you know I could impact somebody else's mental health Absolutely.
- 8:21Lisa Gruenloh: But what I choose to say, or for worse, exactly.
- 8:24Lisa Gruenloh: So it certainly ties in, yeah, yeah, totally.
- 8:28Lisa Gruenloh: And you know the idea is that, like that physical manifestation, right, the rock, the pebble which represents, you know, the ripple that it has, right, when it hits water, it it's again, it starts with us, it starts with us and everything that we do or say has an impact, right, and we can be intentional about that or not, which is my word for the next year, for 2026.
- 8:59Jennifer Johnson: That's exciting.
- 9:00Jennifer Johnson: I went from growth to intentional Very cool.
- 9:03Jennifer Johnson: But you know, people can also take that the other way and go OK, well it's, I can make a ripple effect by doing good in my community, kind of thing.
- 9:13Jennifer Johnson: That's right, absolutely, yep.
- 9:15Jennifer Johnson: So now let's move on.
- 9:17Jennifer Johnson: I had to bring that up because that was just so profound.
- 9:22Lisa Gruenloh: I'm glad that touched you and I'd like people to share those concepts.
- 9:25Jennifer Johnson: Yes.
- 9:26Lisa Gruenloh: Resonate with them.
- 9:27Jennifer Johnson: So, being in 2024, now new year, new, all of us, right?
- 9:32Jennifer Johnson: We all go on diet plans and exercise, but mentally right, right?
- 9:38Jennifer Johnson: What are some things we can do to stay mentally healthy in 2024?
- 9:42Jennifer Johnson: First of all, talking about stress and anxiety, it seems like every time you turn around, someone's like oh, I'm so stressed.
- 9:51Lisa Gruenloh: I have so much anxiety.
- 9:54Jennifer Johnson: What are ways that we can cope with that in the new year?
- 9:56Lisa Gruenloh: So what I don't wanna do is give you a laundry list of things that you can Google right.
- 10:01Lisa Gruenloh: As we all know, exercise helps Getting good, restful sleep, helps Eating well, right, taking a walk in nature, meditation, mindfulness we know those things.
- 10:12Lisa Gruenloh: The one thing if I could share, one thing that is so important, is really getting clear on what is it.
- 10:21Lisa Gruenloh: That is the core root, the root cause of my stress, anxiety and worry, because so often we walk around very unconscious of what we're thinking and feeling.
- 10:37Lisa Gruenloh: it's like, yeah, we know we have a sense of being stressed out, but and this is where my emotional intelligence comes in, right Really being thoughtful and clear about wow, what am I thinking?
- 10:49Lisa Gruenloh: What are these patterns of negative thinking that are going through my mind throughout the day?
- 10:57Lisa Gruenloh: What am I feeling in this moment?
- 11:01Lisa Gruenloh: Because you can feel bad, label yourself as feeling bad or good, but what if it's really overwhelm or frustration, right?
- 11:16Lisa Gruenloh: So the clearer we get on identifying our emotions, the more power we give ourselves to do something about it, to take action.
- 11:28Jennifer Johnson: So basically figure out what your triggers are.
- 11:31Lisa Gruenloh: And that too right.
- 11:32Lisa Gruenloh: So that's kind of the next level I mean I'm talking really basic like really just being able to identify the specific emotions that we're feeling, because, like those two examples, overwhelm is a very different thing from frustration.
- 11:47Lisa Gruenloh: Absolutely, it is or apprehension right, and the same is true for what we tend to label positive emotions, like joy or anticipation, right.
- 11:59Lisa Gruenloh: Emotions are very complex and we really don't give them their due and we suffer as a result because we're not really clear on what we're thinking and feeling.
- 12:15Lisa Gruenloh: We're kind of going through the motions and finally, when we can't catch our breath or we're feeling that stress in our neck or something, we're like huh huh yeah, I'm really anxious today.
- 12:26Lisa Gruenloh: Okay, well, time out.
- 12:29Jennifer Johnson: Live in the present.
- 12:29Jennifer Johnson: Get your journal out there.
- 12:31Lisa Gruenloh: you go right, get your journal out, get some of those things out of your head on the paper so you can actually see it and be more mindful of what's going on, and mindfulness leads to being present right Like you can't you go.
- 12:47Jennifer Johnson: I mean, I'm sure we all are guilty of that is you're just going through the motions every single day, doing what you do just cause, oh, I gotta get it done, I gotta get it done, and then you're left with this feeling of like, okay, I did it, but why do I still feel this way?
- 13:01Jennifer Johnson: Probably because, again, I was going through the motions, not living in the present, not really.
- 13:05Jennifer Johnson: It kind of goes back to if our audience doesn't know what emotional intelligence is right, it's emotional and, in my opinion, emotional intelligence is being aware of how you feel.
- 13:17Jennifer Johnson: Is that?
- 13:18Lisa Gruenloh: That's the part of it.
- 13:19Lisa Gruenloh: That's the part of it and it's a foundational part of it being emotionally self-aware the self-awareness piece how am I feeling, what is my impact on other people, for instance.
- 13:30Lisa Gruenloh: But it's also about emotional regulation, being able to manage our emotions and the reactions or responses that come after those.
- 13:41Lisa Gruenloh: It's also about social awareness, empathy and compassion and also about relationship management.
- 13:51Lisa Gruenloh: So in relationship management is kind of the benefit of all of the emotional intelligence, because when we're cultivating those skills and they are skills that can be learned, which is exciting- Okay, so that was a question.
- 14:03Jennifer Johnson: Is that something that I'm just born with or do I have?
- 14:06Jennifer Johnson: Can I learn it?
- 14:06Lisa Gruenloh: if I don't have it, you can absolutely learn it and, just like with anything, people are born with a certain baseline and part of it may be genetic and a lot of it is.
- 14:18Lisa Gruenloh: It's part nurture, part nature, part environment, part life experiences that can impact those things, but the important thing is that it's these are learnable skills.
- 14:31Jennifer Johnson: If you're willing, if you're willing, exactly that's the key Right.
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- 15:02Jennifer Johnson: Welcome back, friends.
- 15:05Jennifer Johnson: We are in studio with Lisa Greenlow and we are talking about staying mentally healthy in 2024.
- 15:11Jennifer Johnson: And we were just talking about emotional intelligence and so kind of piggybacking on that a little bit, creating a positive mindset and then also being a support for others who are struggling.
- 15:28Lisa Gruenloh: Right.
- 15:28Lisa Gruenloh: So positive mindset, again, it first starts with the self-awareness, right, because how do you even know if you have a positive mindset if you're not aware of what you're thinking and feeling?
- 15:41Lisa Gruenloh: But if you're looking for ways to cultivate a positive mindset which, by the way, you can do these are all learnable, these are all learnable things and it's helpful to have tools and practices, and one of the very common, well-documented ones is gratitude.
- 16:00Lisa Gruenloh: Right, having a daily not even daily gratitude practice I mean that's great, but I use gratitude in the moment.
- 16:08Lisa Gruenloh: If I am having a difficult experience or feeling a little low, my magic pill is gratitude.
- 16:17Jennifer Johnson: So what does that do?
- 16:18Jennifer Johnson: When you are gracious, right, or you're thankful, what does that do to your mind, like, is it like now?
- 16:30Jennifer Johnson: I don't want to call it an endorphin or something, but is there, like some chemical that you're it?
- 16:33Lisa Gruenloh: absolutely does.
- 16:34Lisa Gruenloh: It does have a chemical response in our body, which is why it's so effective, because it can very immediately shift our emotional and mental state, and so you can use it in the moment.
- 16:50Lisa Gruenloh: And even more powerful is to really cultivate a gratitude practice.
- 16:55Lisa Gruenloh: So gratitude journaling, and I recommend yeah, it's great to make lists, that's what a lot of people do.
- 17:02Lisa Gruenloh: I list three things that I'm grateful for right before I go to bed, and that's fantastic, but I really love encouraging people to go deeper with their gratitude practice and really get specific about.
- 17:14Lisa Gruenloh: What am I grateful for about myself?
- 17:16Lisa Gruenloh: What are those character, strengths in me that I'm so grateful for?
- 17:21Lisa Gruenloh: What am I grateful for in my life?
- 17:23Lisa Gruenloh: When I think back to where I was five years ago and where I am now, who are the people in my life that I'm grateful for?
- 17:32Lisa Gruenloh: Have I told them that I'm grateful for them, and why?
- 17:36Lisa Gruenloh: What is it about that person that makes me grateful to have them in my life?
- 17:44Lisa Gruenloh: And, if you think about it, that's another way to be mindful and intentional because the more we notice those good things, the good things happening in our life, the good people, the more we tend to bring those types of people into our life and I like to say that and this isn't mine, I just heard it somewhere over the years that what we appreciate appreciates.
- 18:13Lisa Gruenloh: If you're looking, as a lot of us do, at all the negative stuff and everything that's going wrong, well you can kind of expect to get more of that, because that's kind of what you've trained your brain and some of us haven't trained our brain.
- 18:28Lisa Gruenloh: We just haven't untrained our brain to do it, because it's really part of the human condition to be kind of wired with this negativity bias.
- 18:36Lisa Gruenloh: So that's why we have to take personal responsibility for it, because our brains are kind of already wired to be negative.
- 18:44Jennifer Johnson: That's interesting.
- 18:45Lisa Gruenloh: Yeah, it kind of sucks, but I can see that.
- 18:51Jennifer Johnson: People are more drawn to watching the bad news than they are the feel-good stories, yeah yeah, and a lot of it.
- 18:58Lisa Gruenloh: It's that externally, but I would say it's even more what's going on internally, right?
- 19:03Lisa Gruenloh: So you think of the negative self-talk If you make a mistake during the day, but you've had like 10 successful.
- 19:13Lisa Gruenloh: Things happen throughout the day and you go to bed at night.
- 19:15Lisa Gruenloh: What are you thinking about?
- 19:17Jennifer Johnson: Yeah, the bad thing Right.
- 19:18Lisa Gruenloh: Yeah, exactly I was a master ruminator.
- 19:20Lisa Gruenloh: No, actually I was a master ruminator.
- 19:22Lisa Gruenloh: I was a master ruminator If something happened during the day, I mean it would run through my mind and I literally have through emotional intelligence and all kinds of other things that I've done in my life have untrained my brain.
- 19:37Lisa Gruenloh: It doesn't mean that I never think a negative.
- 19:40Lisa Gruenloh: Right Of course I do.
- 19:41Lisa Gruenloh: Of course I do, but now I know how to move past that and really call it out for the BS that it is.
- 19:49Jennifer Johnson: Right, I have been in that trap.
- 19:51Jennifer Johnson: I have gone to bed at night going oh my gosh, I don't know if I really liked how I handled that situation.
- 19:56Jennifer Johnson: Why did I say that?
- 19:57Jennifer Johnson: Why did I act that way?
- 19:58Jennifer Johnson: Why did I?
- 19:58Jennifer Johnson: Right, yeah, that's right, stop it, you just want to hit yourself upside the head and say move on let it go yeah, and it can be hard to do that, but it takes practice and you get better.
- 20:14Lisa Gruenloh: The more you extend your self-empathy and self-compassion, the easier it is to do that.
- 20:23Jennifer Johnson: So I know there's a lot of stigma there always has been around mental health, mental health issues, and we've seen over the years that diminish somewhat.
- 20:35Jennifer Johnson: Right, but how can you help someone who's in a position of you know whether whatever mental health issue it is, whether it's depression, anxiety.
- 20:46Jennifer Johnson: So how can you be a friend, how can you be an advocate for them?
- 20:51Jennifer Johnson: How can you help them?
- 20:53Lisa Gruenloh: I think one of the first things to recognize is that you know, most of us are not mental health professionals, so we have to understand what our unique role is, and oftentimes it is being a good listener, you know, a non-judgmental listener.
- 21:12Lisa Gruenloh: Sometimes it can be just doing things.
- 21:16Lisa Gruenloh: You know the social connection part is so helpful for our mental health.
- 21:20Lisa Gruenloh: But who we surround ourselves with matters.
- 21:24Lisa Gruenloh: So, you know, are you surrounding yourself with people who are, who have healthy habits right that help enhance our mental health?
- 21:32Lisa Gruenloh: And I think you know there could be a time when you recognize, wow, this person might have, you know, a challenge that is way beyond my ability to help and maybe pointing them to resources.
- 21:49Lisa Gruenloh: One of the things that I did last year or early in 2023 is I got certified in mental health first aid.
- 22:01Lisa Gruenloh: Oh, there's such a thing?
- 22:03Lisa Gruenloh: Yeah, there is, and it answers exactly the question you just asked what can I do?
- 24:35Lisa Gruenloh: And part of it again is that self-awareness is like being able to identify.
- 24:40Lisa Gruenloh: You know when someone might need you know a little extra help, and they don't know where to go or they're afraid you know or?
- 24:50Lisa Gruenloh: Ashamed to ask for help.
- 24:52Lisa Gruenloh: So helping someone seek help you know the right resources is an invaluable thing to do as a friend, but it always has to be with love and non-judgment, Of course, Of course.
- 25:07Jennifer Johnson: You know throughout, you've been on this journey for a long time.
- 25:10Jennifer Johnson: How long have you been in this profession?
- 25:15Jennifer Johnson: How long have you been doing what you're doing?
- 25:16Lisa Gruenloh: So my early career, as you mentioned, I worked on Capitol Hill.
- 25:21Lisa Gruenloh: I worked in marketing and PR.
- 25:22Lisa Gruenloh: I was a broadcaster and journalist.
- 25:26Lisa Gruenloh: You know I have to figure out my gosh.
- 25:29Lisa Gruenloh: I've always had a lot of interest.
- 25:30Lisa Gruenloh: But there's a lot of intersection between all of those things.
- 25:34Lisa Gruenloh: And it was really in 2004 when I went to work for a company, and in 2004, there really wasn't a whole lot of companies out there talking about organizational culture and emotional intelligence, and I just happened to fall into a very visionary company where everybody in our company was trained in emotional intelligence, and so I started on that journey in 2004.
- 26:01Lisa Gruenloh: And very quickly I was actually facilitating some of those leadership workshops and then I got trained and certified as a coach and it kind of went on from there.
- 26:13Lisa Gruenloh: But it was really the tools, the learning, the resources that I got in my workplace that helped me do a lot of healing and growing.
- 26:26Lisa Gruenloh: And that is why I'm so passionate about working in organizations, because, you know, today it's different because there's so much available just on the Internet, right, but the workplace can be such a powerful place for personal growth and the companies, the organizations that are really successful these days, are making that kind of investment in their people.
- 26:57Jennifer Johnson: That's pretty awesome, you know, in your career, because it has spanned many different areas, right, what are some of the things that you have, like, what are the biggest takeaways for mental health?
- 27:10Jennifer Johnson: Like, if you were to tell me Jennifer, these are the two or three things, or maybe just one.
- 27:17Jennifer Johnson: It was so profound that that can make the biggest impact.
- 27:21Lisa Gruenloh: Yeah, you know I go back to personal responsibility and accountability because I think that's where it starts and I think so many people say that you know they want to be happier or this or that.
- 27:34Lisa Gruenloh: But look, are you really?
- 27:37Lisa Gruenloh: The big thing for me was when I was finally willing and have the support and tools to look in the mirror right.
- 27:48Lisa Gruenloh: That can be a really painful process right, I can imagine.
- 27:52Lisa Gruenloh: You're looking in the mirror and you're really seeing yourself and seeing the potential disparities between who I think I am and who I want to be, and really what's in my heart, versus how I'm behaving in the world, how I'm showing up in the world and how I'm thinking and feeling, and so I think that's where we have the biggest opportunity, and I'm not talking about diagnosed mental health conditions.
- 28:23Lisa Gruenloh: I'm talking about proactively managing our mental and emotional health.
- 28:27Lisa Gruenloh: It comes first with taking responsibility and being willing to look at ourselves and our thoughts and our feelings and our actions and our choices honestly and accurately, which is the foundation of emotional intelligence Right and you have to be aware of it, and then you have to actually act on it Exactly.
- 28:49Lisa Gruenloh: You have to decide, you know, is how I'm showing up in my life, you know, aligned with my values.
- 29:00Lisa Gruenloh: So that, to me, is the first thing.
- 29:02Lisa Gruenloh: And then there are just really simple things, like really having a strong sense of purpose and values in your life, because those are the types of things that ground us and give us a really strong sense of identity that can and you use the word in one of your speeches recently about being unstoppable, and I say unstoppable and unshakable- oh, I like unshakable Because you know, there's so many things that can distract us and make us worry, and make us anxious, and that's one of the keys of resilience, right when we get knocked off our center because something happens that we weren't expecting which, by the way, that's life.
- 29:49Jennifer Johnson: Yeah, I'm going to say, you're right.
- 29:50Lisa Gruenloh: Expecting that things are going to happen that are unexpected, right, and being able to find where our personal power is.
- 29:59Lisa Gruenloh: You know, in those situations, again, I take responsibilities like, okay, I might ask myself what do I have control and influence over in this situation and what don't I have control and influence over?
- 30:15Lisa Gruenloh: Because so often we're so resistant to things that we're we're we're focusing on things that we can't even control.
- 30:22Lisa Gruenloh: There's always something that we can control, even if it's our own response, right and reaction things.
- 30:27Lisa Gruenloh: But even more than that, there are things that we can do and action that we can take to move ourselves forward, no matter what we're we're dealing with.
- 30:37Jennifer Johnson: I like that you put that out there, because a lot of us worry about the stuff that we can't change.
- 30:41Jennifer Johnson: Right, and it doesn't matter whether you're going to worry about it.
- 30:45Jennifer Johnson: You can't change it, so worry is going to do nothing, yeah worry doesn't do anything.
- 30:50Lisa Gruenloh: But again, I don't like to label emotions as bad.
- 30:53Lisa Gruenloh: So I would say if you feel worried, first of all notice it and then explore it lovingly, don't say oh, there I go, I'm judging myself, like there I am worrying again.
- 31:07Lisa Gruenloh: It's like, oh, wow, I'm worrying again With compassion.
- 31:11Lisa Gruenloh: Really, you know, think and feel into that sense of worry.
- 31:16Lisa Gruenloh: You know, think about the like climate change, for instance, which is really giving a lot of especially young people these days, a lot of anxiety because they're going to be living for exactly many more decades.
- 31:33Lisa Gruenloh: If you think about something that, wow, that is so much bigger than you know what I could impact.
- 31:39Lisa Gruenloh: Still, you can find ways to impact with your daily behavior, with donating to organizations, with getting involved with you know, contacting your representatives, you know in Congress all kinds of things that we actually can do to affect positive change where we can.
- 32:01Jennifer Johnson: And I assume that that would maybe try, that would maybe lower that anxiety level for people a little bit, knowing they're doing something it can and you know.
- 32:11Lisa Gruenloh: Another thing is we have to realize that we're, you know, a single person and you know, when you look at the human suffering that exists on this planet right now and in our own backyard really is staggering, and this really impacts people who have a high sensitivity level and high empathy.
- 32:38Lisa Gruenloh: And those are the folks like if you have people in your circle who are highly empathetic, yeah, look out for those right folks because and sometimes it's helpful just for people to be able to talk about things you know.
- 32:56Lisa Gruenloh: And if you have friends who are in certain groups that have been really impact by hate or bigotry, you know, reach out and make sure those people know that you're on their side.
- 33:17Jennifer Johnson: That's beautiful, absolutely, Lisa.
- 33:20Jennifer Johnson: It has been a joy having you on today.
- 33:23Jennifer Johnson: Thank you, it's been so much fun If our listeners would like to get a hold of you and maybe talk about your the journaling aspect or really anything, the coaching aspect.
- 33:35Jennifer Johnson: How do they get a hold of you?
- 33:37Lisa Gruenloh: Probably my email.
- 33:38Lisa Gruenloh: I know that sounds kind of old fashioned, that's okay.
- 33:41Lisa Gruenloh: Email is still good, Lisa@ LisaGruenloh.
- 33:43Lisa Gruenloh: com, and my websites are purposejourney.
- 33:48Lisa Gruenloh: com, purposejournal.
- 33:50Lisa Gruenloh: com and purposefulscribbles.
- 33:52Lisa Gruenloh: com.
- 33:54Jennifer Johnson: Oh, I love it Again.
- 33:58Jennifer Johnson: Thank you so much.
- 33:59Lisa Gruenloh: Thank you, Jen.