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We Can Only Hope Dick is Dead · Yo Gavel Gavel! - Court TV Commentary

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  Speaker 1: This is a Bramble Jam podcast.
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  Speaker 2: This week on Joe Gabble Gable. If a man twenty
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  Speaker 2: years older than you with a foot fetish buys you
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  Speaker 2: an engagement ring, do you have to pay him the
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  Speaker 2: money back?
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  Speaker 1: Judge Matthis might need to go to jail with him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a real good time.
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  Speaker 1: That's Gavils. Yeah, it's like I like turtles. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: like gavel.
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  Speaker 3: I like gavels. Yours sounds gross. It's so gross. So
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  Speaker 3: is it better to start with it or end with it?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think we should probably start with it,
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  Speaker 2: because I gotta be honest. I might never watch Judge
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  Speaker 2: Mathis again. Oh no, I will tell you the only caveat.
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  Speaker 2: I've been a loyal viewer, even though I disagree with
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  Speaker 2: him ninety percent of this time, because it's readily available
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube, it's in good quality, and he's funny.
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  Speaker 1: That's why. Those are the reasons. Big three.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly right, the Big three entertainment. But this might
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  Speaker 2: be it for me, It might be it. I'll tell
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  Speaker 2: you the only reason why I want we'll be at
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  Speaker 2: the very end. Richard Chapman is suing former fiance Lisa
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  Speaker 2: Volnallman Vunnelman. I don't know. We'll just call her Lisa
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  Speaker 2: for five hundred dollars for the cost of an engagement rink. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: how much? Five hundred bucks. Richard walks into the courtroom
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  Speaker 2: with his black dress shirt on, button down, top, button,
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  Speaker 2: two buttons unbuttoned, two gold chains, one giant gold cross necklace,
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  Speaker 2: flat top, military haircut. You know this guy. I love
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  Speaker 2: this guy. You don't you know him? Though you know
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  Speaker 2: him though. Richard says, to start off with first, I'd
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  Speaker 2: like to say your honor that I watch your show
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  Speaker 2: every day at four pm, and I'm impressed with your
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  Speaker 2: witty wisdom.
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  Speaker 1: Wow sucking up early. But it's also Judge.
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  Speaker 2: Judy on at four o'clock as well, so I have
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  Speaker 2: to flip back and forth. And the only reason I
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  Speaker 2: do that is that she's prettier than you. That's how
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  Speaker 2: Richard starts and matthis loves it. He raves about Judge
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  Speaker 2: Judy much love Judge we do, how much money she
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  Speaker 2: has and all that stuff. I appreciate Judy more than
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  Speaker 2: I like Judy.
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  Speaker 1: I don't either think, but uh, she's a self made
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: hear it. I don't want to do this. We're not
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  Speaker 1: I'm not doing it.
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  Speaker 2: She's you know, the hardy money mongol is to build
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  Speaker 2: an empire.
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  Speaker 1: Stop as a woman. Stop it. Do you know how
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  Speaker 1: hard it is?
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  Speaker 2: Stop it? Stop it? Read about Judge Judy. One just
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  Speaker 2: read one book, one one page. I read the page,
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  Speaker 2: and she did it. It gets worse for Richard. Richard says,
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  Speaker 2: which I'll maybe maybe called Dick the rest of the way,
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  Speaker 2: who knows.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: He says, I'd like to ask Judge Judy to dinner
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  Speaker 2: so I could see her point at her forehead and say,
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  Speaker 2: do you see stupid on my forehead?
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  Speaker 1: That's something she does, a classic Judge judo.
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  Speaker 2: And then Matths is like, thanks for watching, but obviously
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  Speaker 2: you're not gonna get anything but fair Trump and he
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  Speaker 2: gotta be honest. It was a lot of Judy talk
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  Speaker 2: on this, just a lot of Judy talk. Old Dick says,
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  Speaker 2: I met Lisa at church. We really hit it off.
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  Speaker 2: We dated for about four weeks. I found out she
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  Speaker 2: was twenty three years younger than me, and I thought, hot,
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  Speaker 2: diggity dog, I've hit the jackpod.
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  Speaker 1: How much younger?
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  Speaker 2: Twenty three years she's forty six, he's sixty nine. WHOA,
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  Speaker 2: this case was fifteen years old, so we can only
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  Speaker 2: hope that Dick is dead. So four weeks in, I said,
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  Speaker 2: let's go to the jewelry store and pick out a rink.
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  Speaker 2: We went to the jewelry store. She picked out a ring.
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  Speaker 2: It was eight or nine hundred dollars, and I started
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  Speaker 2: negotiating with the jeweler in front of her. In front
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  Speaker 2: of her, I'm sure it made her feel so good,
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  Speaker 2: and I got the thing down to five hundred dollars.
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  Speaker 2: And I was really very happy that my fiance was
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  Speaker 2: very frugal in selecting that ring. She could have picked
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  Speaker 2: out a two or three thousand dollars ring. We talked
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  Speaker 2: about a wedding date in the fall. A few days later,
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  Speaker 2: Lisa said, let's do the first of the year, so
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  Speaker 2: we picked January tenth. That's my birthday, Happy birthday, Bay,
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  Speaker 2: it's my birthday.
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  Speaker 1: Is my birthday? My birthday? Huh?
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  Speaker 2: So Lisa says, we did meet at church, and I
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  Speaker 2: initially thought he was a god fearing man. But it
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  Speaker 2: turned out he was a freak. She trails off when
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  Speaker 2: she says freak. She doesn't say it with competest. She's like,
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  Speaker 2: it turns out he was a freek. She's very southern. No,
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  Speaker 2: he was a freak, and matthis goes what now, and
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  Speaker 2: then Lisa says, well, he did some things that made
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  Speaker 2: me very uncomfortable. We would go shopping and he would
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  Speaker 2: buy me some things, and that would suggest sexual favors
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  Speaker 2: for the things that he bought her at the mall.
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  Speaker 2: We would be at church and he would buy me
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  Speaker 2: shoes to wear to church, and then he would rub
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  Speaker 2: my feet during church and suggest what he'd like to
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  Speaker 2: see me do later in those shoes during church. During
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  Speaker 2: durn during at this point, we cut to Dick during
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  Speaker 2: Rumor's Right, during.
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  Speaker 1: The Romans rouge.
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  Speaker 2: At this point, we cut to Dick, who once again
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  Speaker 2: we can only hope he's dead, and he is staring
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  Speaker 2: at the camera with his mouth, clothes and a glint
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  Speaker 2: in his eye, and he's nodding like, hell, that's what
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  Speaker 2: he's doing. Yes, she's explaining what made her uncomfortable, and
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  Speaker 2: he is like, that's right, Yeah, that's what he's doing.
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  Speaker 2: That's who this guy is. That's who he is. Lisa says,
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  Speaker 2: we were in the pews in church when he did this.
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  Speaker 2: He went as far look further in our relationship where
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  Speaker 2: he asked a woman he bowls with what type of
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  Speaker 2: bra she wears because he wanted that look for me.
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  Speaker 1: So that was upsetting. And once again, this case sixteen
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  Speaker 1: years old.
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  Speaker 2: We can only hope Dick's dead. Uh Matthis says, did
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  Speaker 2: you do all this? And Dick says, yes, sir, I did.
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  Speaker 2: I did all of it without even missing a yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Uh matthis says, at least you're honest. Lisa says it
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  Speaker 2: got further and furthermore and more uncomfortable, and Mathis goes,
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  Speaker 2: but you stuck around for all this, and she says,
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  Speaker 2: not as long as he said I did. I went
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  Speaker 2: to my daughter's house for my grandson's birthday. He kept
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  Speaker 2: calling the house asking where I was. This case gets worse.
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  Speaker 2: Can I ask a quick question, just letting you know
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  Speaker 2: right now? Yeah, for all those in the room involved
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  Speaker 2: who think this is kind of the bottom of the barrel,
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna get worse.
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  Speaker 1: I'm letting you all know it's gonna get worse. Can
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  Speaker 1: I ask you a quol question.
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  Speaker 3: I would love they they got engaged relatively early in
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  Speaker 3: this relationship. Yeah, I mean he's sixty nine years old. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you gotta get to it, get stepping. Did he do
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  Speaker 3: you know if his behavior changed post engagement?
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  Speaker 1: Was he like she says, I thought he was a
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  Speaker 1: godfaring man.
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  Speaker 2: And then the way that this is said at least
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  Speaker 2: is that the first two or three weeks seem normal
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  Speaker 2: and this is never said out loud, first two or
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  Speaker 2: three weeks seem normal, and then after the engagement ring,
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  Speaker 2: it's when the stuff about like it sounded like she
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  Speaker 2: didn't put a timeline together, but it sounds like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: he would buy me some stuff at the mall and
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  Speaker 2: then kind of like say what he wanted me to do,
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  Speaker 2: and it was like, that's all right, that's just I
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  Speaker 2: think she just kind of, you know, you want to
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  Speaker 2: hope for the best, and you probably write that off
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  Speaker 2: and then things escalate as they clearly, like clearly what
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  Speaker 2: I've just said everything, all of these things are absolutely
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  Speaker 2: abominable and you know, rotten hell diic, but they get worse,
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  Speaker 2: like you know what like buying someone something at the
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  Speaker 2: mall and suggesting what you would like in return, real
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  Speaker 2: bad then foot things and then what was going up
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  Speaker 2: to women and being like, hey, I want my wife
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  Speaker 2: to wear that same my fiance wear the same. Bro Like,
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  Speaker 2: this is all really terrible, right, it just is really bad.
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  Speaker 2: So she said that I just lost my place. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I went to my daughter's house for my grandson's birthday.
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  Speaker 2: He kept calling the house asking where I was. We
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  Speaker 2: obviously whoever answered just was like, she's here. Which if
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  Speaker 2: he's calling the house asking where she is and she's like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm here, I think that pretty much solved it. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know why he keeps calling, that's weird. I was
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  Speaker 2: so angry at this guy, and Judge mathis that I
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  Speaker 2: really have time for this. Uh, when I got back home,
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  Speaker 2: he was there waiting on me, and then he started
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  Speaker 2: sniffing around.
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  Speaker 3: She's like, specifically mad about the broth thing. Is that
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  Speaker 3: what she No, she just is at her grandson's birthday
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  Speaker 3: and she's so then she says this exactly.
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  Speaker 2: When I got back home, he's there and start sniffing
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  Speaker 2: around and says he didn't want me giving his loving away.
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  Speaker 2: And then matthis asked this question once again, I don't
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  Speaker 2: the gabble is the gavel is the gabble. This is
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  Speaker 2: what we do in this program.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Now, when you say the man was sniffing around, do
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  Speaker 2: you mean literally or figuratively? And then she says literally
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  Speaker 2: looking for your scent sense she was. She said literally
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  Speaker 2: he was sniffing my shoulders and my neck. Wow, and
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  Speaker 2: said he didn't want me giving his loving away.
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  Speaker 1: You know what, Yeah, I guess a good question.
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  Speaker 2: Mathis at this point takes the side of Richard in
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  Speaker 2: a stunning turn of events, saying, Hey, I think there
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  Speaker 2: are women out there that would like this stuff. He's
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  Speaker 2: buying you things and he's you know, you know, sniffing
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  Speaker 2: around your neck. That's We've heard worse in this courtroom.
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  Speaker 2: And she repeats again, well it was. It was very uncomfortable. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: he was doing unchristian things, and I was done with him.
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  Speaker 3: Even if there are women that are into that thing,
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't mean that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's wrong for it. I understand this was two
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  Speaker 2: thousand and nine when this court case happened. I don't
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  Speaker 2: really care what year it is.
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  Speaker 1: It's bad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she Mathis is like, what unchristian things are you
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  Speaker 2: talking about? And she's like, well, you don't. She said this,
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  Speaker 2: and it sounds like it's straight out of the Righteous Gemstones,
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  Speaker 2: and that it did make me laugh even though I
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  Speaker 2: was feeling terrible for her. She said, you don't do
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  Speaker 2: sexual advances in church. You listen to your pastor. And
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  Speaker 2: Math is like, that's true, that's you're right, You're right
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  Speaker 2: about that one, and she goes he made me very uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 2: I told him at that point to stop coming by
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  Speaker 2: my house or calling. And after that he went on
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  Speaker 2: a trip to Texas. He contacted me. When I got
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  Speaker 2: he got back, I told him, please don't call, Please,
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  Speaker 2: don't come back. Richard says, you're on her. After we'd
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  Speaker 2: set the date for our marriage. You need to know
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  Speaker 2: that I talked to her about a prenup because I've
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  Speaker 2: been burned in the past by several.
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  Speaker 1: Of my wives. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: At this point, Math is like, man, I got to
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  Speaker 2: take some notes, seriously, like how are you pulling all
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  Speaker 2: these women? That's seriously what matthis is doing? Seriously aout
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  Speaker 2: the case. So I had to do a prenup. And
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  Speaker 2: then he's like, I've been burning the past several times
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  Speaker 2: by my wife. We were gonna go on this Texas
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  Speaker 2: trip together. I was going to see my granddaughter who's
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  Speaker 2: the same age as her daughter. I thought they really
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  Speaker 2: hit it off, and we're gonna go in my big
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  Speaker 2: red f six fifty pickup truck, which I brought a
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  Speaker 2: picture of. He brings a picture for Massis matthis of
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  Speaker 2: his red f six fifty. Yeah, and how did that
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  Speaker 2: change the course of Mathis loved it. He loved the
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  Speaker 2: picture of this dude's f six fifty, which is just
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  Speaker 2: shy of a mack truck. Like you, there's no reason
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  Speaker 2: you need this truck.
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  Speaker 1: Did she like it?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 1: God, no, I had you.
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  Speaker 2: Remember, Mike is f one fifty right, six fifty is
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  Speaker 2: a big boy. That's like something that you use for
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  Speaker 2: like commercial hauling. It's a medium duty truck. Like it's
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  Speaker 2: just on this side of mack truck. I'm gonna god,
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  Speaker 2: uh so uh matthis is is doing a bit with
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  Speaker 2: his his white male bailiff about like look at this truck,
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  Speaker 2: look at blah blah blah. Richard says she was unable
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  Speaker 2: to go on the trip, and I called her when
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  Speaker 2: I got home.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't get a hold of her. Yes, that's a
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  Speaker 1: big truck.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Uh it's stupid. That's a full compensation truck. That
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  Speaker 2: is all that is.
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  Speaker 1: We go.
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  Speaker 3: That's good stuff right there. You can see that clearly. Yeah, so, uh,
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  Speaker 3: Richard's like I got back. I called her, couldn't get
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  Speaker 3: a holder, and I went over to her house. I knocked
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  Speaker 3: on the door, nobody answered. I went home. When I
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  Speaker 3: got home, I had a voicemail from her saying we
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  Speaker 3: were over. I brought the voicemail in.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the thing about Mathis that really makes as tough
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  Speaker 2: as some court cases we go to. It's clearly actors.
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  Speaker 2: This is Mathis doesn't do actors. That's another reason I
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  Speaker 2: liked the show. They're all real people. We play the voicemail.
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  Speaker 1: It is her.
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  Speaker 2: It couldn't be more Hey, I heard you got back
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  Speaker 2: in town. I told you before you left. I'm telling
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  Speaker 2: you again. Please don't call me, Please don't come by.
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  Speaker 1: We are done. It is over.
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  Speaker 2: Goodbye, Like literally, couldn't be more direct. Did she give
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  Speaker 2: the ring back?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, no, matthis says, why'd you do that? Why'd you
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  Speaker 2: send him that voicemail which is just efing crazy? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: She says, well, he made me uncomfortable. I didn't want to.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't want to marry him. Matthis says, it sounds
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  Speaker 2: like his behavior has pretty been pretty consistent throughout your relationship.
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  Speaker 2: Once again, if you we can only hope that Dick
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  Speaker 2: is dead.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And then he asked for a copy of the receipt
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  Speaker 2: of the ring, which Richard provides. And then he goes, oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's the prenup. After you ask for the prenup, you
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  Speaker 2: broke up with him.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And and here's the one thing I will say, and
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  Speaker 2: this is there's no defense for any of this being
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  Speaker 2: true or real. She is not only in a generally
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  Speaker 2: good demeanor for all of this. She laughs when he
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  Speaker 2: mentions the prenup. Now, I'm not saying I'm not saying
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  Speaker 2: it's a bit. This could be a bit. They could
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  Speaker 2: have wrote these two people in for this. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's a really dark, dark bit if it's a bit.
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  Speaker 2: But she is not portraying herself in a way where
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  Speaker 2: she's upset about this. She's portraying herself in a way
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  Speaker 2: where it's funny. That's how she's portraying herself. Now, her
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  Speaker 2: words matter way more than that. And it's clearly awful,
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  Speaker 2: and this guy should be thrown in jail and Mathis
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  Speaker 2: should be thrown in jail alongside of him. But when
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  Speaker 2: he mentioned the prenup, she basically she doesn't admit it
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  Speaker 2: with her words, but she basically kind of like with
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  Speaker 2: her body language and laughing, kind of does not deny
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  Speaker 2: that that did change the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, but that is.
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  Speaker 2: One little small thing versus a preponderance of evidence that
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  Speaker 2: would suggest that this guy is the worst human being alive. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: math is ready to rule. So what is all the
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: money for five hundred dollars for the wedding ring that
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  Speaker 2: she he purchased her? She we don't know what happened
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  Speaker 2: to it. She's not giving it back. He wants five hundred.
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  Speaker 3: Dollars, Okay him, I mean, I guess give him the
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  Speaker 3: ring back, yeah, or the money.
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  Speaker 2: We do know based on doing the show that it
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  Speaker 2: is the engagement ring is the only gift you are
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  Speaker 2: required to return, right, And so I knew before we
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  Speaker 2: started Mathis was going to rule in favor of the
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: PLANEFF and give them five hundred dollars. That didn't make
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: me any less angry when he did it, sure, but
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: I knew that was coming. I do think every you know,
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: maybe a really just justice would throw it out. I
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: think most judges, but most judges that we watch, would
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: give them the five hundred dollars. And I know that
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: because it's an engagement ring and that's the one gift
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: you're required to give back. I know that this still
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: was the most infuriating case I think I've ever watched
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: for this particular program.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: It was. It was unbelievable.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: You imagine going to church and seeing somebody give them
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: somebody a foot rope and talk like, yeah, I'm sure
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: he was whispering the dirty stuff. But they say that
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: if you're on the road behind him, like you can
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: probably see something's going on that you don't want to
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: be able to look over, and there's a foot massage
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: going on and pew number two.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: But all of this stuff is just so ridiculous, Like
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: it is, like, so we've reached ridiculous with like he's
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: just like, I mean, God, I hope, I do hope.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Sixteen years later, it's less comfortable for men out there
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: than it was in two thousand and nine. I don't
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: know if it is, but I hope it is, because
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: this guy's just like, yeah, I'm seventy, what are you
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: gonna do?
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: I'm rich?
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: And I'm seventy and hell yeah, man, I like to
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: give the old church foot massage.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah I did.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: I asked this woman about her bra If you bet it.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: It's brutal tough out there. Let's head over to Lauren Lake. Okay,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Lauren Lake would have maybe castrated this individual.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Another.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Self made female judge. Yeah, now this female judge. I'm
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: here for we the people.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: With Lauren Lake.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Lily Larson is suing Iris Lucy. I thought, was I
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: love Lucy? But it's Iris Lucy Iris Loy Iris. I
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: like the flower or the song or the eye part. Yeah,
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: I thought you said Irish Lucy. And now that's a
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: weird way to go into courtroom. They call me irish,
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: they call me Irish. No Iris six thousand, five hundred
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: dollars for deathamation of sixty five hund Lily met Iris
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: through a documentary that Iris was making about water fasting.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: You know about water fasting? Is it where you fast
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: and only drink water?
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Yes, for an extended amount of time. Yeah, I don't
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: know about that. Never done it, Lily would. Basically, she
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: wanted to make a documentary showing what water fasting for
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: thirty days can do to somebody, the Good and the Bat.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Kevin James talked about this on a podcast. Really were
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: for forty straight days to lose a bunch of weight.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: He just had water with a little bit of salt
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: in it. Yeah, for forty days. Yeah, how'd that go
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: for him? He lost a bunch of weight. I mean,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: get you right back, but he lost you know, he
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: lost it.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Iris says that water fasting is a trend, and I
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: wanted to explore the health benefits that would come with
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: doing a water fast. There are twelve people total that
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: would spend a month in a house in Malibu together.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Lily says, it's not that nice of a house in Malibu, okay,
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: And we had to stay with the crew, and they
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: would just taunt us with food.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: They would eat their meals in front of us. That's tough.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: That's tough, Iris says.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I am past sixteen hours a day, and it's tough
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: if you were to do that to me at ten
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: thirty in the morning.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Iris says, I didn't find it necessary, nor did we
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: have the room to ask the crew to go somewhere
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: else to eat their food. But also part of the
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: experiment was seeing how they would respond to different things
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: while fasting some of that yes, was, I'm sure they did.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: We don't get that.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Lily says that Iris was a struggling actor at the time,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: came to her to be a part of this documentary
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: and I gave her an opportunity. Lily says that I
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: did this project because during the pandemic, I gained fifty pounds,
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: so I heard about this idea I could lose weight,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: I could gain some mental clarity, etc. And Judge says,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: so this wasn't about acting. This wasn't about getting some
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: sort of acting gig, and she says, no, it wasn't.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: It was about gaining clarity. Judge says, well, there's I
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: gotta be honest with you. There's a lot of ways
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: that you could gain mental clarity that doesn't involve having
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: a camera in your face while you're not eating for
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: thirty days. And Lily says, yes, but this was supposed
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: to be a documentary, not a reality show. It was
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: I thought it was gonna show the whole picture of me,
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: and instead it just showed one part of me, which
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: was me being a monster. So she's mad that a
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: reality show depicted her in a negative documentary you're not
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: getting any money, so what so what is it about
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: the way that you were portrayed that upsets you? She judges, like,
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: you didn't eat for thirty days. Of course you're gonna
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: have some bad bum You gonna do some bad moms.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Lily says, well, they didn't show any of the first
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: half of the month where I was happy, where I
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: really felt like I was at peace and gaining mental clarity.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: They didn't show any of that. All they showed was
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: me crying, getting angry, throwing grills in the pool because
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: the crew was taunting me. Iris says, I believe that
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: we did show the whole picture of Lily. She immediately
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: turned dramatic when the camera turned on. She has that
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: way the entire time. She was crying within a day
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: the of this experiment, and I told the crew. I
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: told them that the crew would be eating in front
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: of them ahead of time. She could have wow. Iris
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: said she could have taken her food somewhere else. Judge
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: says she didn't have any food. Iris is like, you're right.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: I meant she could have taken herself away from the food.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: But that was a funny thing where she said she
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: could take her food, and that's kind of the whole
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: point of the things.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: She didn't have any food.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Instead, though, instead of taking herself away, she threw the
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: grill in the pool. We are not going to get
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: a whole lot about the grill in the pool. I
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: hate that, but they mentioned it a few times and
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: then like, don't really give me the depending on the.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Size of the grill. That's a herculean effort there, Dan.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: It was all I know about this is she threw
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: a grill in the pool while it had was grilling food.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: So they was using a grill to grill fresh food
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: for the crew. Yeah, so you're smelling the grill. Yeah,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: they bring them in like a bag lunch. You're doing
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: a water faster.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Cruse working on the grills. But I don't know how
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: to show mean, she could have gotten burned. Uh, she
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: could have gotten burned. So why does iris o Lily
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: sixty five hundred dollars. Lily says she did not show
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: me in an accurate light. She defamed my character. And
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: I wasn't the only one who was going crazy, but
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: I was the only one that they showed going crazy
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: in the documentary. Everybody else is all zen zen zend
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: you having peace, like feeling good about themselves and I'm
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: over that. All they show of me is going crazy,
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: throwing grill and pool. And then she says, if I'm
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: the star of this documentary like they want me to be,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: why am I not paid a star away?
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: This is ridiculous? This is ridiculous.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: She's right, Yeah, she is. Hey, when you sign up
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: to be on a documentary, you sign a lot of
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: paperwork saying that what you do is gonna be filmed.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: You can't possibly believe that signing up for a documentary
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: and doing a fast live on TV and then having
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: your actions filmed and then getting mad about it is
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: gonna mean You're right, I like you shouldn't have done it.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: But there is nowhere where she gets a dime. Please
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: tell me she doesn't get any money.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Judge says, someone can't edit you in a light that
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: you do not show yourself being in. You can't tell
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: me that you didn't see a camera rolling and turn
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: it up a little bit so that you would get
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: more screen time. You want to be an actress, that's
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: what actresses do. You can't tell me that that wasn't
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: your motivation. And Lily says, I mean maybe ten to
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: fifteen twenty percent my motivation ten fifteen twenty percent. Judge says,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: you're a good actor, a really bad mass petition.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: She did not defame you. No money.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, Lauren Lake gets it. Lauren Lake, everybody,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: we did it. Congratulations to us.
• 24:08
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• 24:10
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• 24:12
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• 24:13
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