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- 0:00The number one mistake people make in Social Security is
- 0:04taking it too early. So this is a common question
- 0:06that we get asked. How much risk should a person my
- 0:09age take? How comfortable are you with big
- 0:12fluctuations in the portfolio? Ignoring the required minimum
- 0:16distribution strategies from the time you retire until you're
- 0:20forced to take them out at age 73 is a mistake.
- 0:23I'm encouraging you not to have the mindset of we just want to
- 0:26keep growing our nest egg in retirement because you don't
- 0:29want to fall into the tax trap that at age 73 you're forced to
- 0:32pull out your required minimum distributions and that pushes
- 0:36you into a much higher tax bracket.
- 0:39Welcome back to another edition of Retire and Thrive Podcast,
- 0:45where we're focused here on helping you live that retirement
- 0:48with purpose, wealth, and confidence.
- 0:51This is actually episode 26. And today I'm going to kind of
- 0:55peel back the onion. And again, this is some of the
- 0:58messages that we've received throughout the previous podcast
- 1:02that we had. And today, I want to zero in on
- 1:05the 9 most common retirement mistakes and how to avoid them.
- 1:13So I talked last episode about one of the biggest decisions and
- 1:17certainly the most common question that we're asked.
- 1:21And that centers around Social Security.
- 1:24So I feel like the number one mistake people make in Social
- 1:28Security is taking it too early. So mistake #1 taking Social
- 1:32Security too early. Last episode I talked about the
- 1:37window of Social Security. So I won't repeat that here
- 1:40today, but it does start at 62. And every year that you delay
- 1:44it, it grows by 7% up until your full retirement.
- 1:47Then after full retirement until 78, grows by 8%.
- 1:51So taking Social Security too early is often times a mistake
- 1:57because I think the mindset most people have is, look, I've paid
- 2:01into Social Security my entire life.
- 2:04I'm going to get it while it's still around or I'm going to get
- 2:08it in case I'm not around. And that's not a wrong way to
- 2:11look at things. But I will tell you this, taking
- 2:16Social Security too early can have many implications.
- 2:20First and foremost, let's talk about what I had mentioned
- 2:24earlier is by delaying it every single year, you're getting an
- 2:27increase. And that increase at 7% a year,
- 2:31given current interest rates is pretty attractive.
- 2:34Now it's not attractive if something were to happen to you
- 2:37that was untimely and you weren't able to receive Social
- 2:41Security very long. And again, none of us
- 2:43necessarily know what that window looks like.
- 2:45But by taking Social Security early, you're giving up the
- 2:49future income streams of an increase of 7% a year again
- 2:54until age or until your full retirement age.
- 2:57So that in and of itself can be pretty substantial.
- 3:02The other thing that we've looked at and when we build out
- 3:04these financial plans is let's just kind of go through a
- 3:08particular example here or or a sample client, We might have a
- 3:12husband and a wife both retire. They both decide to take Social
- 3:18Security at 62 and maybe one of them gets a pension.
- 3:24But what they realize is that between the Social Security and
- 3:27the pension, let's just say that there are $1000 a month short.
- 3:31So one of them starts tapping their retirement account to the
- 3:33tune of $12,000 per year. What can happen is when they do
- 3:39that, the $12,000 that they're tapping per year might just move
- 3:44them based on current tax brackets from 12% to 22%.
- 3:49So they're now paying taxes at a higher rate.
- 3:53And then what we often see is people retire and then we get
- 3:58the phone call a year or two, sometimes three years later, and
- 4:02the call goes something like this.
- 4:04Hi Dan, this is Mr. Client. And my wife and I were just
- 4:09looking at new cars and we found this new car for $50,000 and
- 4:14we'd love to buy it. And I explained to them that we
- 4:17certainly can do that. However, because now 85% of
- 4:21their Social Security is taxed and they're getting the pension
- 4:24and we're kicking out $1000 per month, all of the income that we
- 4:29pull out of their retirement account is taxed at a much
- 4:32higher rate. So it may have made sense for
- 4:36them to delay Social Security, tap more of their retirement,
- 4:43manage their tax brackets, versus quickly going out and
- 4:46saying, sign me up for Social Security.
- 4:49So mistake #1 taking Social Security too early.
- 4:54Mistake number 2, not planning for taxes.
- 4:59It's kind of interesting back to when social secured or back when
- 5:024 O1 KS were first started, people often said you need to
- 5:07save and save and save and it's going to save you a bunch of
- 5:09taxes by putting money into these four O 1 KS because you're
- 5:12putting it in pre tax. Now of course you can put it in
- 5:16after tax through the Roth component in the four O 1K but
- 5:19the majority people today still put it in pre tax.
- 5:23So the theory is if I put my money in pre tax, if I put in
- 5:27$10,000 into my 4O1K forget about what the company matches.
- 5:32But if I make $90,000 per year and I put in $10,000 in pre tax,
- 5:38my total taxable income goes from 90,000 to 10,000.
- 5:43Less standard deductions and everything else.
- 5:45But my point is, is the mindset is we're going to save a bunch
- 5:49of taxes and then guess what happens?
- 5:52You build up a beautiful 4O1K, but maybe 8090% of your entire
- 5:57portfolio is in that four O 1K and has never been taxed.
- 6:01So guess what? Now we look at it and say, OK,
- 6:05we decide that we need to supplement our income.
- 6:08We maybe need $3000 per month. So we start pulling out $3000
- 6:12per month. And that might be just enough
- 6:16until we need, as I mentioned earlier, a big ticket item.
- 6:19Maybe it's a car, maybe it's a trip that you've been planning
- 6:24and so it may make sense if you planned early enough to tap
- 6:29maybe the other two types of what I refer to as tax status
- 6:33accounts. Maybe it's the non retirement,
- 6:36maybe it's the Roth account, but not planning for taxes is
- 6:40definitely a mistake. We also see the opposite happen.
- 6:44You know, today husband and wife combined can have a fairly high
- 6:49income, filing a joint tax return and still be in that
- 6:52lower 12% bracket. So let's say that they could
- 6:56pull out an additional, say 10 to $12,000 and still be in that
- 7:0012% bracket and they're not planning for taxes.
- 7:04Guess what? If they don't pull that money
- 7:07out of the IRA, even if they don't need the money, if they
- 7:10don't pull it out, that's a calendar year that's gone by
- 7:13that they could have paid taxes at a lower rate.
- 7:16So that's why planning for taxes and retirement is critical
- 7:21mistake #3 is taking too much or too little investment risk.
- 7:28So this is a common question that we get asked.
- 7:30How much risk should a person my age take?
- 7:34And the answer is one size does not fit all because there's a
- 7:38lot of factors that go into the investment risk.
- 7:42First and foremost is the investors comfortability with
- 7:46the volatility, kind of a tongue twister there, but how
- 7:49comfortable are you with big fluctuations in the portfolio?
- 7:54I have kind of my own theory. My own theory says take on only
- 7:59the necessary risks to achieve whatever goal or aspiration that
- 8:04you have. So that might be somebody says
- 8:08I've got $1,000,000 portfolio, I only need to generate $2000 a
- 8:12month from that portfolio plus all their other income.
- 8:15If that's the case, if they're only generating $2000 per month
- 8:20on $1,000,000 portfolio, that's $24,000 per year.
- 8:24Again, simple math, $24,000 / 1,000,000 dollars.
- 8:28That's a 2.4% withdrawal rate. So what's an appropriate mix for
- 8:33their? Well, unless they have big
- 8:35aspirations of leaving a bunch of money to kids or charities or
- 8:37whatever it might be, I would say fairly low.
- 8:40And why is that? Because historically, if the
- 8:43stock market is averaged around 10%, the bond market has maybe
- 8:47returned 5 or 6%. Why would we want to go all in
- 8:51on the stock market and have tremendous volatility when what
- 8:54we really need is to get something north of 2.4% and
- 8:59enough to hedge against inflation?
- 9:01We don't need to get a 10%. So that would be a case of
- 9:06taking on too much risk. But just the opposite can happen
- 9:09too. Often times we saw people that
- 9:12had saved their entire life, they get to retirement and they
- 9:17feel like everything needs to be safe and secure because they
- 9:20just never know what could happen.
- 9:22Well, the risk of doing that is if you put all your portfolio
- 9:26into let's just say fixed income.
- 9:27Fixed income can be bonds, it can be certificates of deposits,
- 9:31it can be corporate bonds or whatever it might be.
- 9:35The challenge with that quite frankly is now you are 100%
- 9:39dependent on what future interest rates are.
- 9:43In other words, when I look back just to a few years ago when the
- 9:46Fed aggressively raised interest rates in 2022, the 10 year
- 9:52Treasury was approaching 6%, but yet the year before the 10 year
- 9:57treasury was less than one. So my point is this, if you are
- 10:03took your entire portfolio and you've got $1,000,000, guess
- 10:07what? If you put it all into bonds,
- 10:10it's great. When you can get 6% on Treasury
- 10:13notes, that's $60,000 per year. But as Treasury notes have been
- 10:18reduced, now all of a sudden, let's say that it's 3%.
- 10:22Now all of a sudden your income went from $60,000 down to
- 10:26$30,000 at a 3%. So again, that's taking on too
- 10:30little risk. Now we're talking about mistake
- 10:32#4 and that is relying solely on the 4% rule.
- 10:36I touched on this in the previous episode, but the 4%
- 10:40rule is just how much money can you pull out of your portfolio
- 10:45and sustain the actual amount or what we refer to as a
- 10:48sustainable withdrawal rate And lots and lots of studies on
- 10:52this. As I mentioned that it's about
- 10:544%. Again using $1,000,000 portfolio
- 10:57that would be about $40,000 per year and increase in it every
- 11:01year by 3%. And again, a lot of that's
- 11:04depend on the overall allocation of the portfolio.
- 11:08But that 4% rule, there are times where things are going to
- 11:11change. We go through periods of times
- 11:14where the market doesn't cooperate.
- 11:17And I can think of specifically several times where the market
- 11:20was negative for two or possibly even three years.
- 11:23And relying specifically on that 4% rule kind of creates a little
- 11:31bit of ignorance in terms of ignoring the portfolio.
- 11:36But at the end of the day, it goes back to the one of the
- 11:38lessons I had mentioned last week in that is you need to
- 11:41review your portfolio on an annual basis.
- 11:45Mistake #5 is ignoring the sequence of returns.
- 11:50So let me explain this. This is a big mistake and a lot
- 11:54of people don't think of this, but sequence of returns means
- 11:59what are my returns in the year that I retire versus once I have
- 12:03retired for a while. So let me kind of break this
- 12:07down in a simplistic way. So sequence of returns is if
- 12:10you've got a 12% return in the year retired and then you got a
- 12:144% return and then you lost 10% and then you were up 12%, the
- 12:19sequence of when those happen matter.
- 12:22In other words, let me put it to you this way.
- 12:25If you're pulling out 4% and you've invested solely in the
- 12:29market, and the market dropped 10% the first year retired, and
- 12:33then the next year it actually dropped by 15%, and the
- 12:37following year, it dropped another 10%.
- 12:40In those three years, you're actually down 35%.
- 12:45So going back to mistake #4 with the 4% rule, if you're down 35%
- 12:52and you're pulling the same dollar amount, your withdrawal
- 12:55rate now is not 4%. It's probably closer to 6 or 7%.
- 13:00And so then it's a case of waiting for the market to come
- 13:02back. Now kind of a different scenario
- 13:05is if you retire and the market's up 10% and then again,
- 13:10it's up 15% and then it's up another 10%, kind of the
- 13:13opposite. It just reversed.
- 13:14So now you're up 35% and then the following year it dropped by
- 13:1710%. You're still up a net 25% less
- 13:21any withdrawals. So ignoring the sequence of
- 13:26returns does make a difference. Mistake number six, kind of an
- 13:32important one is forgetting the RMD planning.
- 13:38Required minimum distribution touched on this again last
- 13:42episode. Required minimum distribution
- 13:44currently is at age 73. So what do we have to plan for?
- 13:49Well, if you retire at age 60 and if you've decided to delay
- 13:54Social Security and let's say you've done a very good job at
- 13:57saving for retirement and maybe between spouses, you've got
- 14:01$2,000,000 in your four O 1 KS and you do nothing.
- 14:06You're, you're feeling like we can just live off of pensions
- 14:09and all of a sudden your pension combined is maybe $60,000, but
- 14:15you don't need any additional income.
- 14:16What happens is the mindset oftentimes is let me just keep
- 14:20building. We've got $2,000,000 between the
- 14:22two of us. Let's just keep growing it and
- 14:23growing it and growing it. What you're ultimately doing is
- 14:26setting yourself up for a larger and larger required minimum
- 14:32distribution once you hit 73. But if your income's only
- 14:38$60,000, you could pull out almost $60,000 in your
- 14:42retirement accounts and still stay in that lower 12% bracket.
- 14:46Again, depends on deductions, whether you itemize or take the
- 14:49standard. But at the end of the day,
- 14:52ignoring the required minimum distribution, required minimum
- 14:56distribution strategies from the time you retire until you're
- 15:00forced to take them out at age 73 is a mistake.
- 15:03So I'm encouraging you not to have the mindset of we just want
- 15:07to keep growing our nest egg in retirement.
- 15:10And that kind of ties back into the tax side because you don't
- 15:13want to fall into the tax trap that at age 73, you're forced to
- 15:16pull out your required minimum distributions and that pushes
- 15:19you into a much higher tax bracket.
- 15:24Mistake #7 is misunderstanding Medicare income rules.
- 15:31This can be fairly complicated, but at the end of the day, the
- 15:35Medicare rules are simply stating this.
- 15:38Medicare people are eligible at age 65.
- 15:41But one of the things that people need to look at is
- 15:43something called Irma. Irma is a 2 year look back that
- 15:47ultimately looks back and looks at what your income is.
- 15:50Now a lot of people that have had to pay insurance between the
- 15:54time they retire in 65 look at Medicare and say, wow, that's
- 15:59great because I'm going to save so much in health insurance
- 16:03premiums. And that may be true, but if you
- 16:06had high incomes in the previous two years, that's going to
- 16:11actually affect your Medicare premium.
- 16:14So don't ignore the income rules as you approach Medicare.
- 16:20In other words, once you start hitting that 63, it's critical
- 16:24that you look at the implications of your income as
- 16:27it as it pertains to your Medicare premiums.
- 16:32Mistake #8 and I've mentioned this before that cash flow is
- 16:37king in my opinion, when it comes to retirement.
- 16:40And so not having, for lack of a better phrase, a cash flow
- 16:44system, figuring out where all the income sources are coming
- 16:48from is a mistake. In other words, once you hit
- 16:51retirement, this is not the time to just wing it.
- 16:54This is the time to be strategic and really think about what are
- 16:57all of my income sources. And again, it gets a little bit
- 17:01overwhelming because there's a lot of different choices.
- 17:03Should we take Social Security? Should we tap into our
- 17:06retirement accounts? Should we take that pension and
- 17:09income on a monthly basis? I would highly encourage whether
- 17:14you use Excel, whether you're working with an advisor or
- 17:17whether it's just longhand writing this out, it's critical
- 17:20that you look at where your income sources are coming from.
- 17:25As I mentioned, by delaying Social Security, you're actually
- 17:27going to get a bump every time that you delay it.
- 17:30So maybe run a couple scenarios that says what would my income
- 17:34look like if I took Social Security at 62 and I took that
- 17:37monthly income and I factor in My Portfolio and if I need
- 17:41additional income to be supplemented from my 401K.
- 17:45But maybe run the numbers and say what if I pulled more out of
- 17:47my 401K and I delayed Social Security and run those.
- 17:51So having some sort of cash flow program or some kind of cash
- 17:55flow system is critical. And the last mistake I see, we
- 18:03refer to this as stress testing your retirement plan.
- 18:08In other words, take a look at all of the uncertainties.
- 18:12You know, some of the uncertainties we can't overcome
- 18:14or we can't avoid. Risk is risk.
- 18:18Whether it's investment risk, whether it's inflation risk,
- 18:20whether it's longevity risk, there's risks all around us, but
- 18:24not stress testing. Your retirement plan says run it
- 18:28through the ringer, go through and look, what are some of the
- 18:31challenges in retirement? You know, I always start with
- 18:33the very basics first and foremost.
- 18:35Worst case scenario, if everything went bad financially,
- 18:40how much money do we need to have in reserves?
- 18:43That would be my starting point. Kind of that nest egg, kind of
- 18:46that emergency fund. And that's going to vary for
- 18:49everybody. And we talked about it when you
- 18:52were in that accumulation phase, but now that you're retired and
- 18:55you're in the distribution phase, it applies just as much.
- 18:59How old is your house? What's the chance of your
- 19:02furnace going out, your roof leaking, needing to have your
- 19:04roof replaced? What kind of cars do you drive?
- 19:07Do you have cars that have 100 and some 1000 miles that maybe
- 19:10need work on them, whether it's a new engine or transmission?
- 19:14Do you have warranties on these cars?
- 19:18Do you have children that maybe are financially dependent on
- 19:21you? All of these things need to be
- 19:22factored in. That would be the starting point
- 19:25about stress testing your retirement plan.
- 19:27Do you have the liquidity necessary in the event that all
- 19:31of those things came at once? Once that's done, the next
- 19:35stress test is look at the income you're pulling out of
- 19:39your portfolio relative to the value.
- 19:43We talked about the 4% rule. If you've got $1,000,000
- 19:46portfolio and you're pulling $70,000 a year, that's probably,
- 19:52depending on your age, eventually going to deplete your
- 19:54retirement. And maybe that's OK.
- 19:56Maybe you've built that into the equation.
- 19:59All we're saying here is take the necessary time to stress
- 20:03test your retirement plan against all of those withdrawal
- 20:08rates, emergency funds, liquidity needs.
- 20:12Build in special budgets for specific items, whether it's for
- 20:16a new car, whether it's for that world trip that you want to take
- 20:20in three years or whatever it might be.
- 20:22That's what we're referring to as stress test your retirement
- 20:26plan so that there are the 9 biggest retirement mistakes that
- 20:32I've seen over the years, and I wanted to just share those with
- 20:35you. So I hope this episode was
- 20:37helpful. Again, I encourage you if you
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- 20:46you on the next episode of Retire and Thrive.
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