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Callbacks 2 | Season 21 | America's Got Talent · AGT Time Pod - America's Got Talent Fancast

• Cody: Hey everyone, welcome back to another edition of AGT time. Cody here at the Laugh Factory, along with Jay: I'm so sorry. You're going to have to pack your bags and not be here next week because you'll be in the second week of quarterfinals. Jay Bach. Cody: The the triple double negative. Jay: You're not not not not going through. Okay, yep. No, you Cody: D did you yeah so d you you you've seen Shrek, right? Jay: Yes? Cody: Yes, and and when they're when he's interrogating Jin or Pinocchio and Jay: Yes. Cody: Pinocchio does all the like triple and negatives, it's like Jay: Yeah. Cody: so he so he's not not not telling the truth? Jay: There you go. That's, yeah, I don't know. Some of Sophia's, results were a little bit, a little bit funny in how she presented it. Like, Cody: Yes. Jay: she was, she gets the idea of like building a little bit of suspense, but doesn't quite have a full handle on it, I feel. Cody: You know, you you don't you don't always need the suspense. and you don't Jay: You don't always need the suspense. Cody: always need the suspense. And you know, we'll w we've got some clips pulled and we'll we'll talk about later. But one of the big things that I kind of pulled out from this episode was just the night and day difference between how Howie did his first hour and how Sophia did the second hour. Now, I'm I'm gonna say, Jay, I still don't like this format. I still still think it's a Jay: OK. Cody: It's a trash format. It it's it I I hope we never ever see this format again. However, I did Jay: okay. Cody: like Howie's like Howie's hour was the best hour of the four hours that we saw callbacks. Jay: I agree. Cody: And I think that's kind of the consensus. I like that it was at the laugh factory. I like that it was in front of an audience. I like Nikki Glazier. I think she did a great job. Howie the way that Howie kind of interacts with his performers that he brought in. I think he had the deepest group of performers of the the four judges. and then we get to Sophia and it was like a big snooze fest. So Yeah. Jay: It was kind of yeah. Howie had a great group. And he gave like a little coaching session before each of them. I brought you Cody: Yes. Yes. Jay: because this is what I think I need you to do, you know, a little bit of, of, of pushing them. And we didn't get a lot of that from the other judges. And so I will be excited to hear I don't know feedback from from AGT world like or you know, if they keep this around for future years, are we going to see more of that? You know, we get a little bit of that in the voice, right? The the judges, the coaches, you know, they they coach the acts up a little bit and they try to get them to be as good as they can be. But I don't know that I want AGT to go that way. Like, I don't think that these four judges are the be all end all of talent scouts. But let them, let each act be their own act and be as wonderful as they want to be without you telling them how they're supposed to do it. Cody: No, I I completely agree with you. this is why Howie's an AGT Hall of Famer. He's the best judge you've ever seen on AGT. Just the what we saw in that first hour was I thought I thought was fantastic. And the way that he presented it, the way that he delivered it, I thought was great. Yep. Jay: Yep, agreed. Okay, well with that then Cody, let's talk about some of these acts that we got Or let's let's talk about the first hour, right? Cody: Yeah, yeah. Jay: Howie he says I have prepared An opportunity for all of my acts to perform at the laugh Factory Since I have two comedians a comedic ventriloquist duo a comedic impressionist and to vocal acts or music acts. Like that makes sense. You know, we're going to do it in front of a crowd. We're going to give you guys some of that in front of a crowd feedback and then and we'll be able to work with it from there. Surprise appearance by Mr. Beast. Cody: That was weird actually. It's kinda weird. Just type him on a Jay: You Cody: cell phone there. Hey, we're gonna FaceTime with Mr. Beast for some reason. Yeah. Jay: Yeah, just a thing. And also how we head on an interesting one piece jumpsuit. Cody: I thought that was fun. That's very Howie. if you've kind of seen any of his stand up or anything he does not on A G T, that's I think typically how he dressed. That's just his natural dress. Yeah. Jay: Yep, Yeah, he's an interesting guy and he had an interesting group here. he tells all the acts to show their passion, to be memorable, know, kind of some good general fluff. And then he's going to talk to each individual act before they go on. And the first act that's going to perform for us tonight is Nene Royale. and he tells her that she has talent, she needs to find moments that she can connect with the audience and make them scream. And she's going to do a song called Hysteria by a band called Muse, which is not on the Cody Patterson playlist. Cody: No, Muse is not on the playlist, but Def Def Leppard, if you remember Def Leppard from a couple of seasons ago, Jay: yeah. Cody: they did a a song called Hysteria, which I is is on the playlist and it's it's a great, great song. Yeah. Jay: all right. So Hysteria, not by Muse, is on the playlist. Is it the same song? Okay. All Cody: I don't think it's the same song. It may be a different song. Yeah. Jay: right. Well, let's hear a little bit of NeNe's version of Hysteria. Cody: Man, she shred, Jay. Jay: She like the word that comes to mind is cool. She is so cool. Cody: Yeah. Yeah she is. Jay: And she's what 1516 years old, like Cody: Something in there. Yeah. Jay: just like such a really strong voice. She's got the the ability to yell it and be on key and just like, it's it's so cool. She is so cool, Cody. Cody: Yep. If if if this were we talked Ninja Turtles last week, if she were on the Ninja Turtles, she would be Shredder. Jay: Okay, there you go. She's shredding it. Yeah, after I didn't talk about how he's guest to help him help him judge Cody: Yeah. Yes. Jay: somebody called Nikki Glaser. Cody: Yes. Jay: A multi talented comedian and actress and human being. Cody: Are are you familiar with Nikki? Like have you seen Jay: I'd probably have seen something that she's in, like, I don't know. It's not Cody: Okay. Jay: really my thing. Cody: I've seen a couple of her stand up. She's funny. She's really funny. Jay: OK. Cody: there was an interesting tidbit on her wiki. and I sent this to commenter because you know, we're we're we're we're we like Jay: you Cody: Taylor Swift. We follow a little bit of Taylor Swift to talk Ta we had the Ares for our Jay: Yes, yes. Cody: our bracket couple two years ago. she attended twenty two Taylor Swift concerts during the Ares tour. Jay: Wow, I wonder if she was invited to the wedding. Cody: ooh, good question. Maybe so. Jay: I heard those were, they were a little stingy with those tickets. Cody: They were a little stingy. There was some I think some strict rules attached to those tickets. So Jay: Yeah. Well, I, I feel like, Nene anyhow played, played wonderfully. How we ask how she feels she says, I think it went perfect. Which I think is, that's great. One thing that I'd love to see, bring in that live band. And Cody: Yes. Jay: this, this format, this setting didn't didn't work for that. But like, you know, that might that might be the thing that turns it up to 11. Cody: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Do you think the Laugh Factory gets a lot of musicians? Jay: I don't. I don't think that that's their thing. Cody: Yeah. You don't think they're kind of built or set up for musical acts? Jay: I think it works for musical acts. And I think there's probably a lot of comedians who incorporate music or, you know, musicians who incorporate some comedy, but like they're a comedy. It's the laugh factory, not the Cody: Right, right. I didn't know how like Jay: not the Cody: I didn't know how well her sound would have come through in their setup. 'Cause they're they're not really built for that. Yeah. Jay: Yeah, it's it's a stage and an audience and Cody: Okay. Jay: it's designed to hear the comedian do their thing. So I don't know. I'm Cody: Yes. Jay: I'm not worried about like the nuances. no. My you my sound got dead in that corner or whatever. Like, you know, for this situation, are you good enough to go through? I think that she just proved herself. Yes. Cody: Right. Okay. Jay: So any other thoughts on Nene? All right, let's. Let's move on to one of our comedians. This one is Chris Sosa. He grew up in a Latin household and gonna talk about life growing up Latino, Latin in America. Talks about the off-brand cereal that they grew up on and all cereal was called cornflakes and... Cody: Yes. Jay: It does a little bit about how he wanted to be a bartender and only ever worked in the as a bar back like the guy that assists the bartender. And, you know, he could maybe occasionally like get a water. But then one time the bartender had to go to the bathroom once and he had his chance to be a bartender. And it was a big order of four drinks and he pantomimes making the drinks and shaking them all up with his Latin flair. And then the punchline, here's your waters. So he I think did a pretty good job of bringing it all around, making it a nice tight set. What'd you think of Chris Sosa? Cody: Again, I am so happy that they let the comedians do it in this setting. this is the Howie's the only one that had his performers perform in front of an audience. It was in the proper setting for comedians. It let them do their thing and feel way more comfortable. Now we'll talk a little bit about Daniel Averroes in a second, but it allowed them to be more comfortable in this setting. They get an audience, they get laughs, they get a response, and it It lets them kind of then propel that, if they're moving on, to the next round. So happy that they were able to do this in this setting. Jay: Yeah. Is it fair or unfair to not have comedians in this setting? You know, like, it feels like the production gave each of the judges kind of like carte blanche as to what they want to do. Do you want to Cody: Yes. Jay: bring them to your house? Do you want to go to the Laugh Factory? Do you want to go to a pub? Do you want to go to England? Like, the world is your oyster. So Cody: Yes. Jay: they really did give them freedom there. And I appreciate that each judge kind of ran with it their own way. There wasn't really two that were alike and letting Howie, you know, use his connections to bring it to the laugh factory to, you know, put it on this stage in front of an audience. I think that's pretty cool. And I would hope that in the future that they don't like put them in boxes, right? No, we're decided that judges deliberations are going to be done this specific way and you have to stay in this box and you can't no funny business. Like, let them let them have fun fun doing it their own way. I liked that. Cody: Yeah. I I don't think it gave them any advantage between the two judges, between the four judges. Like I don't think him having it in the laugh factory gave them over of an advantage over like Simon having in his backyard or Mel B doing it in her house or a pub. Those six kind of got to all do it in the same place, which I thought was was is great. now, I guess with Mel B, Lachlan did his set down in a pub so sh Jay: Mm-hmm. Cody: he didn't do it in front of baby and and scary. so he actually got he actually Jay: You Cody: got a small audience even though it was a an English audience. But no, Jay: Yeah, yeah. Cody: I think having it there it does help them, but I don't think it's an advantage over the other what the other judges did. Jay: I could make the argument that like we got to see the comedians in front of a audience and got to hear, you know, the audience's response and that might affect how people vote in the future, right? But there's also the advantage of getting another performance in front of the TV audience that the no brainers don't get and the golden buzzers don't get, you know, there's stuff that's taken away from us, you know, by, you know, not having the exact same format for every act. So Cody: Yeah. Yep. Jay: I guess that's that's what the game is. And we're gonna Cody: Yep. It's it's not like a sporting event where you have that first round bye where you get to rest and whatnot. Actually having more reps is much better for you in this in Jay: Yes. Cody: in this pr in this competition. Jay: Yeah, it's literally a popularity contest. And if Cody: It is, yes. Jay: you don't have screen time, it's hard to win. Cody: That is correct. Which is why we've never Jay: So. Cody: seen a live show Golden Buzzer in the top five. Jay: Yeah, that's pretty wild. Okay, so that was Chris Sosa. Nikki says that she really liked the jokes about the the big cereal bags and the pedigree dog food similarities. Did give a little bit of feedback saying like, don't ask have any of you ever bartended before because it's like that's a crutch that comedians use that he doesn't need. He's better than that she says. Cody: Yeah. What's the deal with this? What's the deal with cornflakes? Jay: Very Jerry Seinfeld of you, Cody. All right, next act of the night, we're going to our operatic ventriloquists, how he says, don't do opera. And he also says he likes them because they're quirky. Cody: Yes. Jay: And they're going to come out on stage and they do prove to be quirky. They've each they each have like a sheep. lamb puppet that they are controlling as well as they're singing along. It's weird. It's entertaining. Howie says they're memorable and they're the right show for AGT or there's no other show that's going to put them on. I'll hear your thoughts before I give mine. What did you think Cody: Yeah. Jay: of Naimana and Daniela? Cody: I like that he's like, Don't do opera guess what? We're gonna do opera. I think that's all maybe they know so is is opera. They may not know pop popular stuff. Jay: We're classically trained vocalists, so it's kind Cody: That's right. Jay: of the thing that we do. Cody: I like the quirkiness. I like that they didn't do they they kinda toned it down with the puppetry compared to what they did in the audition, but it still wasn't great. They did not sound good at all. Jay: I don't have a problem with how they sounded. I've Cody: Okay. Jay: got a real problem with the puppetry. Like Cody: Okay. Jay: the heads are moving too fast. It's hard to tell Cody: Mm-hmm. Jay: like when I'm supposed to be looking at the puppet or when I'm supposed to be looking at them. Like there's just a little bit too much fuzziness for me to really appreciate the act on the whole. And it's just like, man, I want this weird quirky stuff to make it through to the live shows. Unfortunately, I don't think Naimana and Daniella are going to make it. They're a little too... just not quite clean enough. Cody: Yeah. Yep. I think that's a nice way to put it. Jay: All right. All right. We're buzzing through here. Let's move on to Daniel Alvarez. He's a another comedian. This is the wheelchair bound comedian. Howie says he likes him because he's authentic. Cody: Okay. Jay: In his set, he says, you know, talks a little bit about being, excuse me, being in a wheelchair. And, you know, he says in his dreams, he's like skipping along, and then he wakes up and he's mad as hell. And he says, everyone's talking about AI and how robots are taking our jobs. But he says, not on my watch. I've been applying to be a food delivery robot. And it was it wasn't a real strong end to his set. It was like, all right, that's my time by. Cody: Yeah, yeah. Jay: And it would have been good to have a little bit more of a punctuation mark at the end there. And I would say on the whole, it didn't feel like a cohesive set. He's like, these are my 10 best jokes that I can fit into my time slot. I'm just going to kind of throw them out there. And that's it. And. It felt a little disjointed to me. What did you think of Daniel Alvarez's set? Cody: Yeah, I think y you kinda hit it that it w did feel a little disjointed. There was no story to kinda go with. And and some comedians do this. Tom Cotter was fantastic at doing. He would just scatter shoot jokes at you. Just boom, boom, boom, one after another. Now, his were more rapid paced. Like he was like joke, joke, joke, joke, joke. Daniel was trying to tell a story and then he would eventually get to the punchline and then shift to completely something else. So He he didn't find the balance between trying to put a whole minute, minute and a half story together and then also just or rapid fire jokes. Yeah. Jay: Yeah, yeah. Nikki in her feedback forum and she had some really good feedback. I kind of enjoyed her as a as a guest judge there. She said he really could have punched it up by adding a Cornflakes joke back to what Chris had done just a little bit earlier, like relate it back together and kind of like get that cohesion in there, which I thought was a really good, a really good note for him. Cody: Yeah. Yeah. Jay: Of the two, who'd you like better, Chris Sosa or Daniel Alvarez? Cody: I think I liked Chris Sosa a bit better. Yeah. Yep. Jay: Okay, yeah, I think so too. It felt a little more polished as a whole. Cody: And and you can definitely tell the seasoned professional comedians when they do like what you say, if they're if they're on the circuit every week and they're there's just comedian after comedian after comedian, then finding a way to tie in one of your jokes to something that was talked about in the previous set, then that that really shows that you're chops. It shows that you've been doing this a while. You can think on your feet, you can improvise, and that'll move you to the next level. Jay: Yep, yep, I agree. Okay. Well, we've got another comedian impressionist here. Probably impressionist first and then comedian. In his coaching for Raina Kondo, how he says like, you have a thing, keep it up. Like, let's let's work with it. And she says this week, instead of stubbing her toe, she's going to read a children's story for the for the audience. And she goes into like this, you know, Dr. Susie in iambic pentameter that she walks through like a backstage situation. And it's interspersed with these opportunities for celebrity impressions, including such famous people as Ariana Grande, Sofia Vergara, Britney Spears, Kourtney Kardashian, and Celine Dion. I'll give you a first crack at this. What did you think Cody: Yeah. Jay: of Reyna's performance? Cody: I like the story thing. I think I liked it a little bit better than the I mean the stubbing the toe thing was was kind of funny, but I did like the story. That means she can do some different things to mix in her impressions. So she's not just Jay: Mm-hmm. Cody: coming on the stage and just be and just saying, Hey, this is Christina Aguilera or hey, this is Sophia. She found a way to to tie it in through a story, which I r I really like, and if she can kind of if she can do that for three more weeks, I think that would really help or really show what she can do. But at the same time, these impressions weren't as good as her audition impression and she repeated one. So it didn't really like did she okay. Jay: I think she repeated two. Yeah. Cody: So the Sophia one was pretty good. it would have nice to hear the Sophia one during the audition when Sophia was there. So Jay: Yes, absolutely. Like give the judges the chance to hear their own impression. That's absolutely. Cody: Right. Right. Don't do it now when Sophia's not there, but so anyway. I thought it was fine. I s I think of the three comedians, if you want to put her in there, I think it's I think it's Chris Sosa, Daniel Ivarez, and her are the order. Yeah. Yeah. Jay: You think she's the third? Okay. Yeah, I didn't love this performance. And it wasn't because the impressions, it was because like she was actually reading the words off the page. And it felt like she was reading the words off the page. And you really shouldn't be reading the words off the page. It should be... it should come just so naturally. should be poetry, like literal poetry on the stage. And instead it felt a little bit like it disjointed as she was reading it to us. And I was like, that's not that's not how you're supposed to do it. That was it was unclean. And it took me out of sort of appreciating the performance that that part of the performance should have been so perfect. And it like even that wasn't right. Cody: As our dad on the pod right now, is Jay: Yeah. Cody: this how you read you would read story books story stories to your kids? Or was it is the cadence that she read the stories, is that the cadence you would use, or would you use a different cadence? Jay: I would try to stick with a poetic cadence. And da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da. And try and keep it, you know, keep it sing songy. And then when you get to the impressions, you break from the sing songy, you do the impression, and then you're back to da da da da da da da. And you give it back into that meter. And I would always try to maintain that meter. And I think that, you know, as a dad who reads children's stories and as a teacher who teaches kids to read and to communicate, know, a thing that we do in those lower levels, especially is like nursery rhymes. And, you know, there was an old lady who lived in a shoe. And if the kid says, lived in a shoe, back to you, you're like, no, like, let's get the whole thing, right? Like, and you work on entire phrases and I don't know, like, I want to hear those whole phrases. It's an important part of communication. So, Cody: Yeah, right. Jay: it's, yeah, good question. all right, so that's Raina Kondo. yeah, I think she's good. I don't feel like that was quite good enough for the lives. And then, Howie's last act then is Bird and Byron are, singing, I guess a guitar playing and singing duo. Howie says, some have some showmanship and open up to the audience. Cody: yes. He's they talked a lot about him having his eyes closed and kind of shutting Jay: Mm-hmm. Cody: himself off from the audience. and I kind of get it. I mean, I think he's I don't know the psychology behind it behind doing that. I as someone that in public speaking and probably even now in this paw this p pod, I struggle with making eye contact with people. Which I is very important Jay: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Cody: when you're doing public speaking. But it's one of the things that I just struggle with even as you and I are talking right now, I struggle with like looking at you directly in the camera while I'm talking. so it's it's kinda how just how my brain works and maybe his brain works very similarly where it's when he's performing he he needs to just just vision what the audience is doing and not actually see what the audience is doing. Jay: Yeah, I don't know. I don't have a problem with it. Like, he's clearly like vibing, right? Like he's, he's into it. Does it like, if he's into it and I see him being into it, like that's cool. I'm, yeah, I'm, I'm along for the ride. Cody: Yeah, I I'm I'm just gonna play kind of the other side for a moment. I don't really know I don't really know if I have a preference one way or another. I kinda see what h Howie and Nikki were talking about that if he were to see what the audience were was doing, would then he be able to get into it more and then bring the audience into his rather than he just having a performance and he just up Jay: Mm-hmm. Cody: there and that you like you say they're reacting to it. If he had his eyes open and he could see what they're doing, that they're getting into it, could he then bring the audience into the performance and then possibly get them more into it? Again, I'm just just playing the other side and just thinking out loud here. Okay. Yeah. Jay: Yeah, no, that's, that's fair. I don't know that needs more, but yeah, I hear what you're saying. Like, you know, give the audience some feedback, take some, some, some energy from the audience, but like in a recording studio, you're not going to have that. Like you're just, you're just going to do your vibe, man. You're going to sing it. Cody: But this is not a recording studio. This is a live stage performance. So it's okay. Jay: Also true. But that's... I decided that my rubric this time includes how would this work in a recording studio. So during, well, they're gonna do an original song called Side by My Side. And during the performance, Nikki does give, she notices like his eyes are closed and it kind of closes him off from the audience. But like they have kind of honed in on this sound. The guitar's got this real cool like 50s reverb to it. The vocals are like really on pitch and they've got so much character. Like the song has a groove to it. It makes my feet want to tap. Like there's a lot that I really like about Bird and Byron. Cody: We've heard them twice now. We know what their sound is. It seems very mellow. And it's Jay: Yeah. Cody: like you just want to kind of just bob your head just a little bit, maybe sway. And and and and and sometimes and Jay: That's my vibe, Cody. Mellow. Bob my head. Cody: sometimes I wanna see you do something a little more upbeat. it you know if you get to the live shows, it might be time not to not you know, not go crazy, not do naene. You know, not go nay nae crazy. But I'm saying let's let's kind of pick up the pace a little bit and let's Let's see what more range you have. It's not I mean, even like your Eric Claptons, you know, they're they're Jay: Yeah. Cody: doing stuff that are that's a little more upbeat. They've got the mellow stuff, you know, they got it that's again very easy listening. But then he knows how to really rock it. And let's let's so let's Jay: Yeah. Yeah. Cody: hear if you can do the the rocker part of it as well. Yeah. Jay: All right. Well, I, we'll see if they go through here in just a moment. I, I, I feel like AGT really does love like those big songs, right? Cody: Yeah. Jay: Opera singers do surprisingly well in this show because opera songs are, are big and showy and it's all about, you know, those, those big punches and those big moments and, This is, this is, it's not the antithesis to that. Like there's still like a whole lot of soul and a whole lot of emotion to it, but it's just in a more, more mellow package, I guess. Cody: Yeah. Yeah. Jay: So this, this feels good to my soul. I like, I like this, you know, it's just to the guitar. It's just the vocals and we're just, vibing and grooving and and and just kind of sitting in sitting in it and it's it's good. It's good for Cody: Yeah. Jay: me. Cody: Yeah. The it feels like they are more of an intimate space type act and not a large theater type act. Jay: Yeah, yeah. All right, so we get our results here and we've got two acts that are eliminated. Naimana and Daniela, our ventriloquist duo, and also Reyna Kondo, our impressionist, which means we have four acts going through. Nene Royale, our singer from the top there, Chris Sosa, comedian, Daniel Alvarez, comedian, as well as Burt and Byron. Cody: Yep. So Simon had five go through. Jay: Yep. Cody: Mel B had three. Jay: Was it three? That sounds right. Cody: And then Howie had four. So that's tw that's twelve. Okay. Okay. Jay: Yep. That's 12. Which means Sophia's going to get... 4? Would... yeah. Cody: All four of hers? Jay: what she's got she's got five acts here Cody: we'll we'll talk about that. D 'cause one of kind of threw us for a loop. Quote quote. Attempted Jay: attempted to at least yeah Cody: to, yes. So Jay: all right for Sophia's callbacks the she's got Brooklyn our singer we've got two magicians Darrell Motten and Cameron Marshall and a dog trainer Olivia Bifous Biffus as well as the beatboxer Vaatang Sophia brings them all in, they're sharing a meal together, and Darryl is all like, wait, we're performing tomorrow? I need to prepare my act. I'm gonna be up all night to prepare. So that seems like not good. Maybe you should have prepared something. Cody: And I think that's what Cameron was saying is like, he's a magician. He can't really like think of something overnight. Yeah. It's Jay: great. Cody: like Singers, you know, they could be given two hours, they come back and they're they'll perform a song that Jay: Yeah. All right. Yeah. Cody: no one's ever heard of except for Simon. Jay: Uh-huh. Cody: yeah, there's that. And then but no, magicians usually they've kind of practiced something for a very long time. Jay: Very true. Cody: Yes. Jay: So he's gonna go off to his bedroom and try and figure himself out. Meanwhile, everybody else finishes up in the morning. They knock on Daryl's door. He's nowhere to be found. He doesn't even make it on the bus. So we're going to be just down to four acts, I guess. Sophia is going to introduce us to her guest judges. Lele Pons and Sebastian Yatra. Cody: Didn't know who these people were. No idea. Jay: I don't need to tell you that these are both international superstars. Cody: Okay. No idea. Jay: The Lele Pons and Sebastian Yatra. Cody: Can you give me more? Like wha what are the st Jay: International superstars Lele Pons and Sebastian Yatra. Cody: You're making it much more clearer on me, Jay. Jay: Okay. That's kind of how I felt. Cody: Okay. Jay: They did have video of Sebastian like performing to a stadium full of people that seemed to be enjoying his presence. Cody: Okay. Jay: So I'll take their word for it. Cody: I wonder if Nicky Glazer went to one of his concerts. Maybe. Jay: Maybe. It's just international, like just different Cody: Yes. Jay: nations, not this nation. Us 40-somethings aren't the target audience for Sebastian Yatra's international superstardom. Cody: But could international mean that you're really big in Europe? Jay: absolutely. Yeah. More than one nation between two nations. Yeah. Cody: Okay. Yes, okay. Okay. Jay: It's yeah, it could be, you know, Venezuela and Colombia. Like, that's great. International superstar. Cody: Bandalone is an international superstar. There you go. Jay: Absolutely, he's an international superstar. I mean, he's at least international. Cody: True. That is factual. Jay: He can drum up a pretty good crowd though. Cody: Yes. Jay: All right, so speaking of drums, let's talk about first act of the night here, Vaatang. He does drum vocals. He's our beatboxer from Russia and he's gonna do a song called Ain't No Sunshine by Bill Withers. I think we've talked about Bill Withers before. don't... This feels like something that should be on the Cody Patterson playlist. Cody: Ain't no sunshine? Jay: Ain't no sunshine. Cody: It's in the library. Jay: in the library but not on the playlist Cody: Correct. Jay: okay if it's in the library it might have a few plays Cody: Tell you. Jay: but i mean we're probably talking single digits let's say three Cody: Yeah, you're it's lower. No place. No place. Yeah. Jay: Okay. No plays. All right. That's too bad. Wonderful song. And Vaateng's version of it. He does what he does, right? He does his beatboxing and his singing and his bassline and all the parts of the song all at once, somehow through the microphone. It's so cool. It's Cody: It is. Jay: so it's such a unique special talent. I really enjoy it. You tell me what you think of Vaateng's performance. Cody: really like him. I really like him and I I I I think that they kinda I feel like they kinda did him I don't think it was intentional. I think they kinda did him little dirty. I think this environment was just not the right environment for him. Like Jay: Yeah. Cody: this would have been amazing at the Laugh Factory. This would have been Jay: Yeah, yeah. Cody: incredible at the Laugh Factory. But because it's in front of Sophia and her two international superstars in her backyard, Jay: Yeah, yeah. Cody: it just felt like there was no energy. There was no energy behind it. He sounded cool. What we what we know that he can do is is is impressive. It's amazing. But just watching it in her backyard, I was like, this just feels wrong. Cause he deserves better than this. Jay: Yeah. I will say, like, I think he could work a little bit on his showmanship. Right? Like, give us a little bit of like, vocals and like just a beat on two and four as you're singing. And then you add another part and then you or like take out the vocals and do a bass line and the beat and then you, you know, drop the beat and you do the vocals on the bass line. Like something where it's like we can hear each part individually and then like you, you at the end mash them all together and we're like, that doesn't seem possible. Like everything that you did up to this point doesn't seem possible. And then you took it to that next level. And instead he just kind of like jumped into the deep end of like, these are all the things that I can do all at once. And we're like, whoa, I Cody: Okay. Jay: don't even understand. Cody: I feel like you're talking about you said showmanship. Is that the word you used? Jay: Yes. Cody: I feel like he did that a little bit in his audition. Again, he was he was Jay: Mm-hmm. Cody: on a stage in front of a big audience. He moved about the stage. You could kind of see the energy was there. He then w fed off and worked off that energy that from the audience. But being there in the backyard, there was just like nothing. He's just like, I don't know what I to do and I don't know how to like present this just 'cause they're I don't I'm not getting anything back from these three knuckleheads. so Jay: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think he could have could have worked a little bit better. Sophia says she liked the audition better than this performance. The international superstar judges seemed pretty taken by him. Just strikes me to ask, who's the better guest judge? Nene or Lele? No. Cody: They know he's not a guest judge. Jay: No, she's not a guest judge. Never mind then. Cody: Nene was more entertaining on the screen than Lele. Jay: Yeah, Laylay, I don't feel like she really brought much. Cody: She brought about as much as Pooh Bear did last week. So Jay: Yeah, yeah. Not even a jar of honey. Cody: No. in the two performances that I've seen of Nene, I know way more about her than I do about Lele. So. Jay: All right, fair enough. Okay. Sorry. I had Nikki on my brain, I, Nae Nae. Well, yeah, absolutely. Okay. Cody: Yes. Nikki by far is better than Lele. I mean it's not even close. It's like it's Jay: I think we can say she was the best guest judge, was Nikki. Cody: Of all the guest judges, yes. Yeah. Baby Baby Spice was fun. I like baby again, I know who she is, so it helps me. but by far, Nikki was the best. Yes. Everything in Jay: but international superstar Sebastian Yatra. Cody: Yes. Everything in Howie's hour was better than anything else on the other three hours. Not I mean, just the whole package was better. Jay: Okay, Flag planted. Cody: Yes. Hill. Where is that hill? Jay: Everything how he did was better than anything anybody else did. Cody: That is correct. Yes. Jay: Okay. well let's move on here. that was the first performance for Sophia. Next performance here is going to be Cameron Marshall. He is the card trick magician and he's going to seemingly randomly have the judges split the cards into two stacks. they're all going to be facedown and they all seemingly are random. Like take a couple here, throw them in this pile. You you decide. how they're all gonna go and then wouldn't you know it all the cards end up randomly divided by color blacks and reds and except for the part where he said like no switch them now make this one the black and that one there he I'm not sure how he did it but it was pretty cool I kind of liked Cody: Yeah. Yeah. Jay: that trick Cody: Okay. Well I'm glad you like that trick, because winner Matt Franco did the exact same trick in his finals performance. So Jay: Okay, alright. Cody: so be and also, you know, as you remember, this guy's a Matt Franco intern. Jay: Yes. Cody: yes, yes. and 'cause as I was watching it, I was thinking, this trick is very familiar. Why is this trick So for a commenter, why is this trick so he's like, ch check out my tweet and I went and looked yeah. It's 'cause Matt Franco did it in his finals. Jay: he's allowed to tweet again? Cody: yeah, his yeah well that's it it only lasts for the rest of the day. So he yeah, and and apparently he didn't use up all his tweets that night. So Jay: Good for him. Cody: I think it's a I think it's a rolling twenty f not rolling, but I think it's a twenty four hours that at Jay: Okay. Cody: at midnight you kinda get your credits back. So Jay: I don't think that all the tweets I did in my years on Twitter added up to one day's worth of maximum tweets. Cody: Right. Jay: So there you go. Well after that kind of interesting, kind of cool trick, he does a few things with the numbers on the cards and birthdays and something, something Nine of Spades that he reveals a Nine of Spades card. I didn't really get that last part, but all in all, a pretty impressive showing of a magic trick. Cody: Yeah. So far we're two for two on doing Matt Franco Matt card tricks. Jay: Uh-huh. Cody: and he doesn't do him he doesn't do him near as well. And so I don't know what to tell you, bro. You gotta branch out. You gotta do something original. Jay: You gotta... yeah, that's a... really tough to, like, literally do the same thing. Cody: Yeah. Jay: Yeah, and maybe he doesn't have anything else. I don't know. Cody: That's not good, man. That's not that's not a good not a good looking Jay: Matt Franco aside. Cody: Yes. Jay: Does he have the skills that he needs? he able to? Make it deep. Cody: i if I could remove Matt Franco from my brain and look at him objectively, I think he can get there. I think he's I think he's he's he's above average as far as as card magicians go. I he's kinda got some good he's got some good showmanship. He's got some Gets a little bit of stage presence. He's doing more close up type magic. He needs to branch out and do something that's a little bit bigger. Jay: Yeah. this trick in this setting, perfect. This trick on the AGT stage? Less so. Cody: That's right. This was built more for again intimate close up type performances. Yep. Jay: Yep. Yep. all right. Well we are we're in the backyard and we've got some astroturf. So Olivia, the sh the the yard is yours for you and your dogs. she is going to in her like intro package little bit, she's driving from Michigan to LA and we see a quick shot of her driving Down I-80, where Iowa meets Nebraska, where you're driving into Omaha, and I've driven that stretch of road a hundred times. I recognized it right away. Cody: Okay. Why didn't you Jay: It's Cody: stop and like have lunch with Olivia? Jay: We weren't there at the same time. But Cody: okay. Jay: but it's it's like, you know, welcome to Nebraska, home of Arbor Day, and there's these two like historic train engines up on the hillside that sort of welcome you to Nebraska and I don't know if they're celebrating like the Transcontinental Railroad or what it is there, but Cody: yeah. Okay. Jay: it's it's a neat little I don't know, just someone was like, Hey, I know that spot Cody: Could you tell what time of year it might have been that she went through there? Jay: it looked like summertime, based Cody: Okay. Jay: on the color of the grass. So it like it might have been her video diary driving across the state. It might have been some other B roll footage, I don't know. But like Cody: Okay. Jay: it it it would make sense for her to drive from Michigan through Iowa to get to LA. So Cody: Yeah. With three dogs. Yeah, yeah. Jay: Yeah, apparently. so it additionally, 'cause America's got feels, Olivia's gonna share a little bit about how when she adopted Zeke, her dog, it helped her gain confidence and break out of her shelves and learn some some good presentation skills. so She does some tricks with her dog. They they jump rope and jumping through her arms and like, you know, the dog jumps up and jumps off of her hips and, you know, the same kind of dog flips that we see a lot. that first dog goes away, the dog that we had been introduced as Zeke comes out with her fluffy ears or his fluffy ears. they do a little dance, they do a little agility. she bounces on her foot, Scooby style. different Scooby. A G T Scooby, not cartoon Scooby. Cody: Okay. Okay. Jay: while she lays on her back. and then she does like a backbend, a bridge and and Zeke with a little bit of prodding jumps up and stands on her belly. and then a third dog comes out and they This third dog does some more kind of synchronized dancing with Olivia and Zeke. Zeke and the third dog like both jump over her arms kind of like in simultaneously, which was kind of cool. the bigger dog, this third dog, like stands under her legs and puts her front paws on Olivia's feet. And then Zeke stands underneath that third dog with Zeke's little paws on on her feet as well. It was like, I don't know how you get dogs to do that. That was pretty cool. But that was the best trick. And it's not saying a lot that that was her best trick. Cody: Yeah. Yeah. Like her. I think she's she's adorable. I like the three dogs, Zeke, Echo, and I'm trying to figure out what the third one is. but I do I do like the three dogs. but a lot of the acts, a lot of the tricks that we're seeing her do are tricks we've seen many times. You know, Saren Hero, all the different dog acts we've seen. It just all feels the same. I don't I don't know there's only I I know there's a a high ceiling for what dogs can do. Or sorry. I know there's a low ceiling for what dogs can do. and I I I think she needs to find a way to kind of raise that ceiling 'cause I think she's kind of reached it at this point. There you go. Jay: Raise the roof. I think hurricane just ripped the roof off. Cody: Sure, right. Hurricane's the exception. Yes. Jay: But like Adrian and Hurricane are a totally different stratosphere. Like this Cody: Yes. Jay: was like, that's cute. And Adrian and Hurricane are like, wow, that's amazing. Like, they're just like Cody: Yes. Jay: completely different. So Olivia's the only dog act this season that's made it through their lives, or I guess this far into the competition at least. But it's like, it's not. It's not up to snuff, man. Cody: No. No. Keep working on it, Olivia. You'll get there. I think the dogs are a are absolutely adorable. She's adorable. Keep working at it. You'll get there. Jay: Alright, Cody, this is a good opportunity for me to to to clarify something. Cody: The floor is yours, Jay. Jay: last week, I said pets aren't family. And I was I was I was pretty adamant about that. And it I've I've gotten a little bit of feedback from from family. Cody: Okay. Jay: from both my brother in law who is here helping me install a bathroom in the basement and my sister in law who's here for the week gonna go to the state fair a little bit. So they both said that they disagreed. And I've I've I've taken the feedback and I will I will soften my stance. I will say that family is what you make it. My in-laws are not the family that I chose. They're not the family that I was even born into, but they are my family and I love them. And pets can be your family, and you have friends that you're not related to but the people that you choose to be the people that you love and to be with that can be family and it's it's I I I will I will expand my definition and say Cody: Ha ha ha. Jay: fine pets can be family. I will still say pets aren't people and there is a distinction. Cody: Absolutely. Yes. There is a distinction. Absolutely. Yes. Jay: But if if your dog is your family, if your pets are your family, I I I I rescind what I said last week Cody: Yes. Jay: and go ahead and and love them and be loved by them and and let them be your family. Cody: I mean, there there are times that I will say that we treat Tito like a person, but we know Tito is not a person. T Tito is our dog. But we we feed Tito, we take care of Tito. When he gets sick, we take care of him. When he the dogs that we've had, when they have moved on, we have had the emotions. Jay: Yes. Cody: Because we've learned to love these animals and we take care of these animals for many, many, many years. And so they just become an important part of of our family. There's only two of us in our family. So he's he's the our part of our family. There there and so then there Jay: There's there's three of you in your family. Cody: are three of us. And when when it's time for him to move on, we will find another dog to bring into our family. Because there are lots of dogs out there and cats and other animals. that would love to have families. And Jay: Yes. Cody: so but so thanks for saying that and I'm Jay: What? Cody: glad that you got that feedback from your in laws. Yeah. Jay: So but no, I I I I will I I have always tried to be open and accepting and you know if if I I I don't want to like it it was. No, it and I appreciate that. Cody: Your your stance was pretty firm last and it didn't bother it didn't bother me any. It didn't bother me. I like, That's that's your opinion and that's perfectly fine. But your stance was pretty firm. So Yeah. Jay: But you know, I'm also the guy that says that a a hot dog is a sandwich because what's what does it matter? It's words. So if if Cody: That is true. So Yeah. Yeah. Jay: your dog is family to you, it's it's words, and that's just fine. Cody: Yeah. Absolutely. And that and that's all that matters. It doesn't matter to J Bach. It matters to you. So Yeah, Jay: What matters to you. Alright, so lots of love to all of you and your family no matter the number of legs they have. Cody: That's great. Or fins. Jay: W yeah. Fins that they have, that's fine. Tails, I don't care. I d Cody: They sure. Jay: whatever whatever brings you joy, I hope that Cody: Yes. Yes. Jay: it sparks it sparks joy. So Cody: There you go. Jay: there you go. Alright. Next act of the night, fourth act for Miss Fourth and final act for Miss Sophia Vergara is Brooke Lynn. tells us that she has also struggled with social anxiet anxiety. Her parents have encouraged her to pursue music, and that's helped her come out of her shell. And she's going to sing a song by Evanescence, Bring Me to Life. Now this is like Evanescence had their moment like late like 99, 2000, 2001 maybe. where they were all the rage. And I never really cared for Evanescence. it's it's a a whiny voice. I i there's something about it that grates on me. and I didn't love this song choice, but let's hear Brooklyn's version of Evanescence's Bring Me to Life. What if Cody: Ha ha ha. Jay: Instead of things having dynamics, you just do everything at forte or fortissimo. That's what I feel like it is. It's like like soft piano, intro. Wake me up inside! Like, wow! Why? Why? Why? Cody: Jay, you didn't talk about the in her I wanna say intro package that she struggled with her voice and then she comes out and she then she wants to belt it. So it's like Jay: Yeah, we did hear her sort of struggling with her her preparation to be able to hit all of her notes. I don't know. She she brought it. Cody: She did. Jay: it again, like th this like it AGT loves a big singer. They love an operatic voice, they love those those moments, but like, you gotta have little to go big. And She just went big. is how I feel. We we didn't listen to the entire song. At the end, like she does have some amount of like dynamics and she does kind of bring it down way at the end. she does show a little bit of nerves throughout, but like I was just like, man, I don't if if you love Evanescence, this is probably right up your alley. But man, it it i like i I didn't like listening to the entire song. What did you think? Cody: Well, I'm I'm gonna have you guess if it's in the playlist first before I give my thoughts. Jay: Okay. like like I I started to say, it's in that that wheelhouse, right? Like that when you were a a much younger adult. Cody: Okay. Jay: i it's not like the style of music that I would associate with you, but it's it's like the right era or or just after. I wouldn't be surprised if it snuck on to some movie soundtrack or something. It was a big song for its time, so let's say yes, it is on the playlist. Cody: It it is on the playlist, yes. Jay: Okay. Now with that, this doesn't feel like a frequent play. It's not a frequent play for me. But I'm sometimes you surprise me. I I You know, let's let's go low double digits f seventeen. Seventeen plays. Cody: You're very close. Fifteen place. So so Jay: okay. All right. Cody: so I am revisiting my evanescence era. And so bring Jay: Okay. Alright. Cody: bring me to life is actually one I have just started getting back into. Now my immortal, the other her their other big one, Jay: Mm-hmm. Cody: completely different ball game. Jay: really? Cody: Yes. Jay: y so are we talking like triple digits? Or Whoa Cody: We're we're talking like triple digits, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Jay: a good thing it wasn't on the on the show because you know th this this number that I throw out isn't gonna be part of the game, but let's let's Cody: That's right. This is not an official guess. This is Jay: i like i it couldn't be as many as two hundred. but if you're in the triple digit I like it can't be that hard one twenty. Cody: You're bulb one seven. Yeah. Yeah. Jay: Okay, alright. Cody: Yeah. So yeah. I I am I am revisiting my Evanescence era and so Evanescence is now starting to become more of a frequent play. Yeah. Jay: Okay, so with that then, like since evanescence is something that you like Cody: Yes. Jay: do live with in your life that Cody: Yes, yes. Jay: is in your zeitgeist, what do you think of this performance? Okay Cody: I did not like this performance. It was very s it was it was very it was very scratchy. It felt like she was forcing it a lot. Jay: Yeah. Cody: and and like you said, there wasn't a lot of dynamics in it. And so part of the song is it starts soft, it builds, and then there is kind of a much heavier part in the middle, and then it it kind of brings it back down. and she just right off the bat was just like and and and then it tapered off. But I know she's only got a small she's got a smaller time frame to work with. But it ha n not anything to do with that. I just felt it scratchy and it felt forced. Knowing that she was already struggling with what her voice was doing, I could definitely hear that in her singing. It and this may have been part of her accent. It felt muddled and mumbled at times. it Jay: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Cody: didn't feel like everything all the the lyrics were as clear as they should be. Jay: Yeah, yeah. I I felt like there were problems throughout. I agree with you. and that's it. Sophia has her four acts. They've all performed and we're going to commercial. But wait! There's somebody on the iPad that wants Cody: But wait, there's more. Jay: somebody wants to talk to you, Sophia. It's Daryl. He's on the iPad. and he through Zoom, well, we're gonna go to commercial. We come back and like we're gonna have this conversation and he's like, I didn't want to embarrass myself, but I also wanted to perform. And so it would it be okay if I do my act over Zoom? And he has Lele and Sophia each randomly pick any number, and they pick three and seventeen, and he has the c numbers three and seventeen written on a card in an envelope on the other side of the screen. and also he's gonna have the one that's not Lele, the other international superstar, Sebastian, of the numbers three and seventeen, pick a Pick one. The number 17. The number 17 on his what I would do if I had a million dollars list is a yellow Lamborghini. And he then honks the horn from the front driveway, sitting in the driver's seat of a yellow Lamborghini with a license plate that has number 17 on it. That's it. Cody: Just like Sando, where he didn't bother, I mean, I guess he kind of did in the end of his act, but he didn't bother to show up immediate ejection. Jay: That's fair. Yeah. I I don't know. Like this style of magic. The moment they were like, Sophia, we've got Daryl on the iPad, I was like, he's gonna do the same. It was just a video trick. It's gonna be Cody: Yes. Jay: like this like I I can't Cody: not a fan of this type of magic. I like tech I I do like some Jay: I don't know. I'm not either. Cody: technology in my magic a little bit, but I'm not a fan of this. I I I it's just it's dumb. I it really is. Jay: Yeah, we've you know, he really leans into that like, no, things are going wrong, no, I can't do my performance and like we've it it's not a very endearing style, right? Like, poor little puppy, like you know, like that's not like i I want my magic to like they take control. And this I I feel is just a a confusing style, a confusing delivery. Cody: And is is this just something he's gonna do in the live shows every time? Like it kinda loses something after the first two times. Jay: Kinda lost it after the first time, but Cody: Fair. Jay: yeah, it's I don't know. It it it was weird and it was like this was his plan the whole time and he probably had producers in on it and it's you know what like the yellow Lamborghinis don't just appear right like Cody: Well if you're Dave for Copperfield they could. If you could make the Statue of Liberty disappear. Yeah. Jay: Sure, sure. but like, you know, there was a whole lot of like logistics that went into them putting a yellow Lamborghini in her driveway. It Cody: Yes. And then putting a seventeen license plate. Jay: that wasn't just figured out the night before, right? Like Cody: Right. Yeah. Jay: this whole thing was a whatever. It is is like the delivery's not that engaging, and the trick isn't that Impressive. It's just like Huh. That kinda felt like a waste of time. Cody: I would prefer just four X had performed. I I just thought it was funny Jay: All right. Well, Cody: 'cause we she started I mean, they all started out with six and then she had five and I'm like, she only gonna have four now? That's awesome. Jay: And now she only has four, yeah. well she's going to narrow it down to three of her five acts that performed. the three that are going through are the card magician, Cameron Marshall, our dog act, Olivia Bifoos, and the Evanescent singer, Brooke Lynn. which means eliminated is Lamborghini Magician Daryl Mountain and Va Tang, our beatboxer. And I like I think that what I've seen on Reddit, what I've kind of gotten in the online world is people are like, what in the world? How did you not put Va Tang through? Cody: Yeah. Yeah, that's been that's one of the biggest surprises so far is Vatang not going through. Jay: Yeah. but let's hear you wanted to kinda dig into how Sophia i eliminated Vatang versus how Howie eliminated Reina and also how he let Daniel know that he was going through. So let's Kenny I'll I'll let you sort of take the reins here and tell us what you want us to hear. Cody: Yeah, so I just want to kinda play a couple of clips from them an telling the acts if they're going through or not. We'll start with Sophia since we're we're kind of in this area. We'll go ahead and we'll start with Sophia and then we'll listen to how Howie did it with a couple of his acts. So just kinda listening to her, it just felt like there was no energy, it was all about her. Hey, this is tough for me. There's a lot of acts important to me. Blah blah blah. I had a hard time, da da da da. it's it's a no. Sorry. Jay: I had a hard day today. I yeah. You you're having a bad day. How do you think I felt being your boss having to tell you that you were fired? Right? Like Cody: Yeah. Yeah. Jay: I think probably not as bad as me, who got fired, yeah. That's Cody: Yeah. So let's listen how to s how he talks to Rainier. So there was still a little bit of, you know, hey, it's a about me. Hey, here's da da da da da da. But it was also, okay, here's the feedback that I'm gonna give you. it's gonna be a no, but we wanna see you more. We want you to continue practicing, we want you to continue doing this, and we want to see you again. Keep working at it. We're I'm I'm I'm here to coach you and and give you that feedback. And I thought that was much better than what Sophia did to tell tell her Vot Tang no. Jay: Yeah, there's some some there there, right? Cody: and there's some there there and he it's it's not about him. It's it was about her a and and then gave her some tough love. She's like, I got voices like you didn't do Why didn't you do if you got more voices? You repeated the voices. So kind of a little bit of tough love and kinda called her out on that, which I Jay: Yep. Cody: I appreciate a little bit. And so now let's hear how he handles Daniel Alvarez. And and and so once again he still kind of provided that feedback to Daniel. Look, you've y here's what you gotta do. You can't have that low energy at the end of the performance. You gotta you gotta give the punchline, you gotta punch line, and then you gotta do the callbacks, you gotta knock out. And look, man, you've you've gotta get better. We're gonna put you through, we're gonna put you in the live shows, but we wanna s you gotta get out here, you gotta practice, we got you gotta do more. And and I really like that feedback. It felt like he was it it actually meant something to him, to how he to coach these performers. Whereas with Sophie it was just like, I I was you know, I couldn't had to listen I had to sit here and listen to you guys and sorry, but it's it's just Jay: Mm. Cody: a no. I I don't I don't have any feedback for you but sucks. Jay: Yeah. Cody: Sucks to suck. Sorry. So Jay: Yeah, I th I think Howie gave some really good feedback. i i he didn't make it clear like what did Daniel do that he got the yes and Raina did that she got the no. Like it was a little bit like Daniel, Cody: Agreed, yes. Yeah. Jay: like there were mistakes, the pacing was off, there was no like big punch at the end, there was like you really just kinda pissed it down your leg. But there's potential there, so I'm gonna put you through. Right? Cody: Right. And and for all we know, we talked about this last week. They could have been sitting there twenty or thirty minutes just having a conversation and they had to cut it down to like this twenty to thirty seconds. So Jay: Right. And they they love to put us on that that roller coaster of no, you're you're letting him down easy, he's not gonna go through, you know. wait, wait, no, it saying that he is g no no, it's actually Cody: Yeah. Jay: like it's exhausting. I I don't like that I don't like that. It doesn't have to be a a roller coaster of emotions. Cody: No, it doesn't. It doesn't. So that was just the big dichotomy I saw between and not just Sophia and how and Howie, but Howie and the other all the other three judges as well. I just felt like Simon and Melby and Sophia were all this same way of Well, you guys just I I expected a lot more of you all and it's you know, we're we're all sitting here trying to listen and you had a lot to go through, but it's a no. Sorry. Jay: Yeah. Alright. so after all of those callbacks, we have forty-three spots filled and we need a forty-fourth. So we get a wild card, it's our our little contortionist to Maria from I think it was the last last auditions, right? Cody: Yeah, I think so. Jay: so that's it. She's also apparently like in that no brainer category or her a category of her own. Cody: Yeah, that just doesn't make any sense. I would think that they would have taken they would have looked at these these these were that were eliminated in this round and then picked from that. Jay: I don't know, man. Cody: Yeah. Jay: Well, we we talked about, you know, Sophia has her one that we believed was actually there but couldn't be in the lives because they were tied up in this other thing, so you know, the judge the the production is scrambling to fill it out and how are we gonna do that? So they chose to to call it call it a wild card and Maria's Maria's in. Cody: Yep. kind of looking at the forty four, are you seeing any any favorites that you're that you're eyeing? Jay: there are a few singers or a few musical acts that like I I see some potential for. I don't usually go for singers, musical acts in the draft. but Ashford Sanders is one that I think has real potential to go deep. I think that Nene Royale, I think, is a musical act that has potential to go real, real deep. I think that Butter and Grit might be a third that I would put on that list. well named band at least. so like those are, you know, three that I've I've got on my radar here. and then there's all the other novelty, oddball, weird stuff that always gets a little bit more exciting too. You know, I here. you know what? There is another dog act. Acro crew with their dogs are Cody: yeah. Jay: Terry Cruz has them through. So you know, like obviously the better of the two dog acts and the of the thing. Cesar Diaz, our our clowning prop comedian, our comic. I really liked him. Scott and I were both pretty high on him. I know Commenter didn't didn't get it. Cody: Yeah. Jay: I think that what else can I do here? Unitree, the guy who dances with the robots, found a way to make like you know I I was real low on the drones. I was real low on robot dogs. But like Cody: Yes. Jay: you put a human on stage there with them, and it's like Cody: That's right. Jay: they they might have cracked the code for me. So that's one that that I definitely like. Cody: Ag agreed. Yes. Yep. Yep. Jay: I'll be interested to see like Travis Garland, our dancing with the stars singer, is one that might might work for me. hundred fingers I'm not like terribly high on, but like there's probably points there. I could see them going a couple rounds, going deep, getting some points. Cody: Yeah. I mean he went he w he was a finalist in the origin is in his original season, so the fans are out there. Jay: Yeah. Yeah. And like th the the spectacle of all hundred fingers doing magic at once is is a spectacle. So Yeah, I don't know. There's certainly more as I'm going through here that like I'm excited to see. excited to see Ruben Roldan again, our parkour, one-legged parkour act, Akira, our no-show artist. always great to see him. so much so much of him. Cody: Ha ha. Jay: yeah, I don't know. but like I did see some Reddit feedback on him. People were like, How is this on network television? Like i I I don't like it. I don't want it to be on my T V. I don't want my kids to see it on TV. Like, okay. Like there is a contingent that it does not speak to that it might be Cody: Well then y you as a parent have that choice of whether to watch it or not. Yeah. Jay: Yeah. But will she will will he get will he alienate enough of his audience that he won't get points for us? Cody: he he's not gonna get points. He's not yeah, he's he's not he's not making it past the first round. Jay: That's what we all thought of Chris Turner last year too. So Yeah, there's there's more. but we'll we'll leave it at that. Cody, do you have any that you're excited to see? Cody: I mean the two s the two female singers, Lay Noel, Laura D, I think they're there's some front runners there. I think Pink Beard's probably on that list as well. He's got a big following. Butter I think you're right, Butter and Grit is probably gonna attract an audience as well as Ashford Sanders. Young and Strange. I'm excited to see Young and Strange just because it's got that passing zone feel to it. and I hope that we can continue hope that we can get more of that from them. so that's just that's just a few that I think are gonna be the Jesse White tumbling team. That one's gonna Jay: Ha ha. Cody: be that one's gonna be interesting because of what happened with their one of their teammates. Jay: Uh-huh. Cody: and so Are people gonna put them through because of that or because they're th they actually came out and gave a great performance? So that's gonna be an interesting thing to watch when they perform. Jay: Yeah. well Scott and I are gonna have to have a a conversation before we we do our draft here. have they put out Cody: Yeah. Tomorrow night. Jay: who is in each week? Is that been published? Cody: I have not seen that yet. Jay: Okay. I have not either, but it might be out there in the world. We'll might take that into consideration. Cody: I think that was a great s strategy either you or Ryan did last week or last year where you kinda s spread that out a little bit. so yeah, if we if Jay: I mean the other strategy is to just like take all all week three and say, like, I'm I'm I'm gonna get something. Cody: That's correct. You're guaranteed. Yeah. if if that makes an appearance, we'll definitely get it passed around. We make sure everyone has that information. But yeah, our draft. we're less than twenty-four hours as of this recording from our draft. unfortunately Ryan is traveling and will not be able to make it. So Steven is drafting for for team I thirty five. And then you and Scott will be there to to to draft for the the Bach Bros. And then the off-season what I scroll off season Avengers, Wranglers, I don't know. We call this the off season something. The off season crew. Me and Commenter t Jay: Yeah. Cody: are teaming up to to take take on. So I'm excited. Jay: So do you think do you think Ryan like put his spreadsheet together, his big board together, Cody: Yes. Jay: and shared it with Stephen and said, Do not deviate? Or do you think he said Cody: I think that's no. I think that's literally what happened. I think Ryan put together the big board. Here, just take the next highest one on the list. Jay: Okay. or do you think Steve do you think Steven will follow those d rules, those directions, or do you think that he'll he'll he'll put his own stink on it? Cody: I think Steven is more likely to follow those instructions than I would be. Jay: Okay. Okay. Well it'll be it'll be interesting to see how that goes down. Cody: So Yes, I I I'm so I think that's one of the big things I'm more excited about just is to see how the team Steven and Ryan comes out in this not just the draft, but the for the whole season. So Jay: good. Alright. Cody, we've got one other item of business here. we had one bit of listener mail to discuss. It says, Do you think that the callbacks were better this week? Or were they still a waste of time? So you can tell me, were Cody: Yeah. Jay: callbacks better or were they still a waste of time? Cody: I think I think you they it's not they're not mutually exclusive, is that the right terminology? I think I think that they were better Jay: Yeah, sure. Okay. Cody: and they were only better because Howie's hour was better than the other two hours last ye last week, but also that are complete waste of time. So Yes, yes and yes. Jay: Ooh, okay. Alright. So y I yes and yes. I I don't know. I I don't think that they were a waste of time. I will Cody: Okay. Jay: I'll continue to defend it as a opportunity for us to get to see the acts again. It's it's not bad TV. it's not bad AGT. any AGT's good AGT. While this is different, it's not bad. Cody: Yeah. I I this that's another flag that I will plant. This was this is not good AGT. it is not good AGT. It's not what we want. I am on board with you that we want to see the axe more. That's 100% given. I think everyone is on board with that. But this format is not good AGT. This might be good X Factor, but it's not good AGT. So flag Jay: Okay. Okay. Cody: planted. Jay: Very good. All right. well with that, Cody, I don't think we even did this at the top of the episode. If you want to reach out to us, just like whoever this listener mail is attributed to, you can reach out to us at AGT timepod on all the handles, on all the social medias, AGT timepod at gmail.com, our website, AGT timepod dot com, and anywhere that you want to reach out to us. Apparently Twitter is still the right way to do it. But don't exceed your Twitter limit because we won't be able to even you can't you can't tweet it to us then. Yeah, that's right. Cody: That's right. Can con s conserve that conserve that one tweet to send it to us. Yes. Yeah. 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