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Rhythms of Worship 2023 | Guest Christina Sheer Enneagram Two · The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast

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  SPEAKER_00: Listen to the things that you find, the music and the sounds that you like.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's certain sounds that will speak to who you are and your motivations, your desires, or even maybe cause you to weep, whatever it may be.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so that's been integral to who I am.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hello and welcome to the Simply Wholehearted Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm your host, Amy Wicks, your wholehearted living coach.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm so glad that you stopped by to spend some time with me.
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  SPEAKER_01: Are you curious about the Enneagram?
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you want to learn biblical truths?
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  SPEAKER_01: And have you wondered if there are life rhythms that will help you thrive?
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, friend, then you are in the right place.
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  SPEAKER_01: For six years, this podcast has focused on sharing conversations with my friends about life, business, motherhood, faith, and all things Enneagram from a Christian perspective.
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  SPEAKER_01: I truly understand what it's like to juggle everything as a wife, mom to three teenagers, a pup, and all while building a growing business.
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  SPEAKER_01: And friend, I haven't always done things with clarity, peace, or joy.
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  SPEAKER_01: But still, the Lord has taken my broken-hearted pieces and healed them so I can live with whole-hearted rhythms to provide women like you with a step-by-step process so you can get free of anxiety, shame, and frustrations that might be holding you back from thriving.
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  SPEAKER_01: I pray that the Lord speaks to you as you listen today and that you would invite your friends and family to join the fun conversations.
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  SPEAKER_01: Are you ready to laugh a little and learn a whole lot?
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  SPEAKER_01: Alrighty, let's get to the conversation.
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  SPEAKER_01: I am so grateful that I got to meet Christina during the Wholehearted Enneagram Summit back in 2021.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not only did she become a friend because she would encourage me the whole way through, but then she would listen to my rambly voxers.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so what started as an email encouragement to a text encouragement to voxer listening to one another has become a deep and dear friendship to me.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was really fun as well because we went from being kind of that online friend to an in-person friend when she got to stay with my family for almost a full week last fall.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was so fun and she's so great.
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  SPEAKER_01: And because she's a friend now and I could just sing her praises, I found it a little bit challenging to explain to you the goodness and the brilliance of Christina.
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  SPEAKER_01: So here is something that you will read if you hop onto her website and learn more about Christina.
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  SPEAKER_01: In her bio, it says that Christina Schear is an accomplished marketing professional based in Troy, Michigan, serving clients both locally and globally.
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  SPEAKER_01: She has a recording industry management degree from Middle Tennessee State University, which she has used to provide 20 plus years of brand management for recognizable brands, a Grammy award-winning songwriter, small business, and nonprofit organizations.
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  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, this is where we stop and we go, dang! Christina specializes in the areas of communications, branding, social media, content creation, project management, and cause-related marketing.
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  SPEAKER_01: She's a published author, global speaker, and former missionary who previously lived in Cape Town, South Africa.
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  SPEAKER_01: And a fun fact, she is an Enneagram type 2 and a certified Enneagram coach who offers Enneagram group workshops.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she is all of that and a bag of chips.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, come on.
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  SPEAKER_01: And Christina, she brings it today.
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  SPEAKER_01: My girlfriend, she is fiery and she can preach.
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  SPEAKER_01: She is wise and she loves Jesus.
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  SPEAKER_01: I am so, so grateful that our paths met thanks to YEC.
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  SPEAKER_01: And just even more grateful that she's really who she says she is and that she loves Jesus.
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  SPEAKER_01: Music and therefore worship has been a huge part of Christina's life.
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  SPEAKER_01: And she truly is someone who takes it seriously as a rhythm day in and day out.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think you will have a lot of fun hearing her take on worship and praise.
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  SPEAKER_01: And also she has some interesting advice about being picky about what kind of music you listen to.
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  SPEAKER_01: And she has some insight about how songs set the atmosphere and mood for our lives.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I also got a kick that she picks a song for the year, not a word.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right, so much goodness.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's jump right in.
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  SPEAKER_01: Friends, you are finally on the podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's about time.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for coming.
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  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: Amy, I am so delighted to be here and have this chance to take the conversations we have behind the scenes and bring them out publicly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I how many times have we been like, I wish someone else could hear this?
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  SPEAKER_00: Or why didn't we record this moment?
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm so glad we're finally doing that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And most importantly, we're doing it in the timing that God wanted us to do it.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh Christina often ends her box with saying, Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I laugh out loud because it's true.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was good.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm always here for her TED Talks.
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  SPEAKER_01: And and friend, if you're listening and meeting to Christina for the first time, this won't be the last time you meet her and hear from her.
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  SPEAKER_01: And here's the deal we are both against a really hard stop.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we got um our time cut short.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it's gonna be short and sweet, but it's gonna be so powerful.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think you're really gonna want to know more.
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  SPEAKER_01: We've got to start though with the question and hearing your story, of course, the mini version, but of your Enneagram journey, because it's nuanced, it's not uh not unique.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I think it's it's so valuable for others to hear this journey.
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  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_00: Well, even if you didn't guess it during the introduction, you probably already have an idea.
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  SPEAKER_00: I probably have a seven in my tribe type, at least if I'm not a seven.
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  SPEAKER_00: 100%, no doubt.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, fun fact about me is that actually I am not a seven.
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  SPEAKER_00: I thought I was a seven.
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  SPEAKER_00: I had met with like a renowned Enneagram teacher in the space during, well, really, when I was introduced to the concept of the Enneagram about seven years ago now.
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  SPEAKER_00: And through that process, uh, he had said, Hey, you are a blank, and that's what you are.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I believed it to be truth and didn't go on like a whole journey as you know, Amy and Beth McCord and so many other teachers teach that this is a journey for yourself.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I took it as truth based on someone being an expert.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um, it wasn't until I went through calling off an engagement, not moving to South Africa, going through some massive skin health issues, and honestly, just anxiety and depression.
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  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't until I actually had to grapple with my core fears that came to life, my core desires that were not being met, and really got to see firsthand what my poor motivations were.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, because I just didn't have that like, let's get it done that I normally have.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then I had this reckoning of a moment and had this thought of, what's then not a seven?
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I uh literally was in a room full of other Enneagram enthusiasts, and I just threw the thought out there, like, I really might be a two.
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  SPEAKER_00: What do you guys think?
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  SPEAKER_00: And they all laughed.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're like, we've known for five years, and my former HR manager was in there, and it was just hilarious to have that moment, be so affirmed.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it was so crucial for me because it moved me from being in this broken place to understanding who I was and my identity in Christ and using the tools, the Enneagram to not just bring superficial healing, but the deep work.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I'm grateful I got to do some of that deep work with Amy and my counselor.
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  SPEAKER_00: Counselor or an Amy in your life, don't get one.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, so well said, Christina.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I I used the word unique, and I what I meant to say, the typing journey that you experience is not uncommon or unusual in the sense that it's not rare to be mistyped.
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  SPEAKER_01: Your journey is very unique in itself.
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  SPEAKER_01: The nuance of having really been immersed in the Enneagram world, living with the mistyping, going through you're an Enneagram coach as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: You've been certified, you've gone through that process, you know the material.
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  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, this is where it's just everybody's story is so individual, so personal.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's why it's a spiritual direction tool.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's why it's okay if you spend years thinking you're one thing, and then something happens and you go, oh, wait a minute, maybe not.
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  SPEAKER_01: Or maybe you're coming out of a tough time and you had typed yourself when life was especially challenging.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you get out of the fog and the haze clears a little bit, and you're, oh, maybe this is it.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I, yeah, your story is so good.
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  SPEAKER_01: Definitely one worth expanding on one of these days, because the the what you learn along the way, I think is so powerful.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now, when I was thinking about this idea of again this year, 2023, we're talking about word, we're talking about worship, we're we're talking about writing, right, close to your heart.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then we're talking about waiting as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: I've added that into our three weeks to a new year.
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  SPEAKER_01: And when I was thinking about worship, I kept thinking about Christina Shear.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, why is her name like, I can't shake it?
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  SPEAKER_01: And I even remember submitting it to you, going, I know this sounds crazy, but does it fit?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because you're not maybe a worship artist in the traditional sense of the word, but your life has been intertwined with music and with worship, and you are a woman who worships.
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  SPEAKER_01: So why don't you just let us a little in on a little bit of your story about music and all that really has been tied into your life.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I love that you just boldly asked me that question.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I want to just affirm that part of you that hears the still small voice of the Holy Spirit, because there's no way you could have known that I actually have a music business degree.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I used to spend 60 hours a week in recording studios with a Grammy Award-winning singer-songwriter and producer based on a Nashville named Shannon Sanders.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, there's no way you could have known that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or that he uses his um, his grandfather was an incredible pastor.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's since his and that um as he would be thinking up song lyrics, he would read through the sermons and then sit in front of the the um the Hammond, the B3 Hammond, and he would just play whatever he was hearing, like in hindsight.
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  SPEAKER_00: No kidding.
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  SPEAKER_00: We literally had an open heaven.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I really do feel in that studio because I remember I used to create and I would always say, I just want to be there.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just want to be in the presence of creativity, I want to be in the place where there's a co-creation.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was even thinking about this as I was driving over to the house today, that I've had a unique experience over the last 20 plus years being around creatives, whether they're in artistic realms or in the songwriting realms, to witness co-creating with Christ and the difference between a to-creation with Christ versus a co-creation maybe out of your flesh or out of another place.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so, yeah, I think actually to tie it back into my Enneagram journey, one of my biggest clues, which I just laugh thinking about it now.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you know this, is we would always play the sleeping at last songs before every Enneagram webinar with your Enneagram coach and be like, that's I don't know why, but like can we start this week on maybe like type nine?
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  SPEAKER_00: And then like, I really love the type two one, but the type eight one stresses me out.
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  SPEAKER_00: I literally said this to her.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's hilarious.
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  SPEAKER_00: She had the strength and self-control to not be like, it's because you're a tool, Christine.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, yes, it was the music itself, the lyrics itself, the sound itself caused me to feel a certain way.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if you listen at last, you can find him on Spotify and everywhere.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: But just listen to the things that you find, the music and the sounds that you like.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's certain sounds that will speak to who you are and your motivations, your desires, or even maybe cause you to weep, whatever it may be.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so that's been integral to who I am.
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  SPEAKER_00: And as someone that worked in RB and soul and rock and country, uh, I even worked in like rap rap back in the day.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, you did.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then once in Christian rap, once I came to know the Lord, I have just been around so much music and so much creativity, and it's been a powerful source of um stillness is maybe a big way to think about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Even as I was driving back and forth while I'm dog sitting, I'm driving an hour.
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  SPEAKER_00: I haven't driven an hour anywhere since really before the pandemic.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was like, I was so excited to listen to worship.
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  SPEAKER_00: And what it was like to drive down the interstate and just listen to worship and be in the presence and sing as loud as possible.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so it's um, it's a powerful tool in my life and in my discovery journey of who I am and how God made me.
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  SPEAKER_01: What does incorporating worship look like for you when you plan, when you're dreaming about the year ahead, when you're maybe even transitioning in work roles or maybe tasks?
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  SPEAKER_01: I know for you, you really, you really engage in the rhythm of worship.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, but what does that look like for you?
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_01: And because each of us have a unique way, and I think sometimes it's really cool to hear how others do it, and it sparks either a need to or oh, maybe I want to try that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love that question.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't think I've ever been asked that question before because, like you said, I'm not a traditional worship artist or a worship professional, but in the season, God's really stirring me up to songwrite.
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  SPEAKER_00: So for those that actually know me, you're gonna be like, wait, songwriting, Christine?
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  SPEAKER_00: You've been in the game for a long time, but we didn't know you could songwrite.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: Well, let me blow your mind again.
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  SPEAKER_00: You also didn't know I'm a second soprano, and I can sing um just stirred with BMI, and I'm looking forward to actually doing more active songwriting and releasing of content in 2023 with the Yes and Amen Worship Co.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if that interests you, just come and sign me first off.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that was an official announcement just for you and your audience, Amy.
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  SPEAKER_00: But in addition to that, like from a rhythm standpoint, I think for me, the biggest thing is just first off, being aware of what I'm consuming.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_00: So being aware of what I'm taking in with my eyes, my ears, what's being sent out of my mouth, all the different gates.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so with worship specifically, you've got to be mindful of the songs being sung over you.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, maybe you're in the car with your kiddos, like you've got the kiddos and you're doing drive time.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, there may be a song playing in the background, but it sets an atmosphere.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think about my own experience.
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  SPEAKER_00: We have a pup that's been very anxious this past year, and they literally would turn on the radio station, the fish, to like lull her to be quiet while they're back in the house.
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  SPEAKER_00: Love it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I am very much that person that will just turn on worship and let it play throughout my whole workday.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, I will also have certain playlists for certain moments.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_00: So maybe in the show notes we can include my flourish and face playlist.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, let's do it.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_00: I would love a cool-hearted Enneagram playlist.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe, maybe that's like now you're talking.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: And and being able to kind of have songs to worship, but I typically, the Lord will give me a song for each year, and He's started to kind of show me what is my song for this year.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I am definitely that person that will literally play that song and sneak to it, like on Repeat for eight hours.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_00: I did that when I was in South Africa.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: I had um, oh, what is it, United United Pursuits?
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  SPEAKER_00: I think they have that um set a fire in my soul.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: That was so good for my entire 18 months in South Africa.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like every night I slept to that on Repeat.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's no surprise that revival fire, science, wonders, and miracles became part of my daily walk and my experiences because my spirit was so set on that, even while sleeping and dreaming.
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  SPEAKER_00: But in this year, the um the song that the Lord's been giving me is um a song that has to do with ancient doors.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've been praying for the Lord to reopen ancient doors for me.
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  SPEAKER_00: I know that's like a little deep, like when I'm so lighted.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_00: But God's been showing me in this season where I feel like I've been pushed out into the deep end a little, just a little uh a lot.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: Let's just say a lot.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is, it has been a lot.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've been pushed out in the deep end, and you know what is so interesting about the deep end is so often your enemies can't get you out there.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: So if someone is listening to this and you're like, Lord, I I am like up the creek without the paddle and I don't know where I'm going and how to get here.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_00: Let me encourage you that it's so your enemies can't get to you.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_00: And that's doing a work in your heart and trust him um to release that sign for you to stir your spirit up.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_00: I've yeah, I've always had things like that.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: So for me, I've been praying for open doors.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: I've never ever opened my business share wisdom to the public in a in a public capacity and said, share wisdom's available, hire me.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_00: I've never had to do that because God has always brought me people.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm a big believer of sowing and reaping, and that there's times of harvest when you need it.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm a very generous person.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm always sewing into different people and places and things.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_00: But it's been beautiful.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, even today on the way over here, got hit with a message by someone, hey, you free for some side hustle work?
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: I've probably had six of those requests this week.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_00: And Lord, nothing was solicited.
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  SPEAKER_00: People don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I just love that the Lord is reopening ancient doors for me.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: There are relationships and situations that I've sewed into in the past that God pruned.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_00: You know, we talked about the net hearing flourishing faith on my yes and amen event at the gathering.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um, and so he's bringing a lot of those things that have felt like ancient closed doors in my life relationally that are coming back around in a new and beautiful way, and also in a full price tape kind of way, which I love.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_00: So I love it.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_00: I know, and I know you would love that I'm also doing that.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: Uh 100% man, there's so much here that I want to say.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_01: And I I'm guessing even some of my friends are asking questions as they listen and they want to know more, and they're like, oh, tell me more about this and that and this.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_01: And what I love is this is the perfect segue into our rapid fire questions, if you will, for this four weeks, really to the wholehearted rhythms that we we want to implement for 2023.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_01: And you talked about this idea of having a song, a worship song in particular, on repeat as you are setting the stage, as you are preparing your heart and really proclaiming what it is that you see that the Lord is about.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_01: And and this is, you know, for some of my friends, this might be a term that makes you feel a little squirmy, but it's the prophetic nature of speaking out what is to come in agreement with the Lord.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: Not fortune telling, not, you know, like just manifesting outside of, you know, like aligning your mind and your heart with God's will.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not just positive thoughts.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_01: It is, it is proclaiming what the Lord has put in you and is about to do.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_01: So with that, okay, you've talked about this song on on repeat.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, what what do you um also what are you thinking word-wise?
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_01: Do you I and I know you you typically look for a word or phrase, all of those things.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, he gave it to me.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: Let's hear it.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: I hadn't even asked about 2023.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_00: I'm still trying to get my bearings as we're ending 2022.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_00: He had to do that.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: Told me it's time to relaunch, which is such a beautiful word for me.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: Are you kidding me?
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: If you think about it, it's not just relaunching my business or relaunching my relationships or relaunching my love life.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: There's, you know, we had a recent teaching at my church that was talking about how ultimately, when you have the word re in front of something, all it's doing is reaffirming, it's going back to its original design.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: So when we got that shirt posture that each person has, when you're aligned with the Trinity, right?
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Then you can deal with the relational things.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_00: And so that is literally sitting here saying, daughter, it's it's time for you to relaunch.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_00: But before we can do anything out here, let's look at this relationship up and down.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: And so I know everyone's posting their like Spotify unwrapped, you know, like their years of their music.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: I listened to 44,000 minutes of music last year.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: Whoa, are you kidding me?
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: That's amazing.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like in the upper 12, like there's like 88% of people on the app don't listen that much.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: And so if you think about the sounds prophetically, go and look at what songs, what artists, what things you've given time to in this season.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: Whether you realize it or not, you've been giving a prophetic nudge towards those things in your life.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: And so it might be time to even relaunch that part of who you are and what you listen to and what you hear over your family, over your children, over your spouse at night when you're sleeping.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like there's so much to set that atmosphere.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: What are you even going to play when everyone comes over for the Christmas party?
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: Where are you going to players?
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_00: Are you going to be all Jesus on Sunday?
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: And then are you going to like, you know, play all the TikTok kits on New Year's Eve?
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: Now you want to usher in the new season?
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: What sound?
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: This is what okay.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Lord.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_00: What is the sound that God has for you for the new season?
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's the question.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: What's the sound?
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: What's the word?
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_00: What's the worship?
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_00: What did you say?
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_00: What's the waiting?
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: My pastors taught me as I was fundraising to move to South Africa and I was trusting for this big check that they they had said to me, you need to go stand in the hallway.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like we need you to stand on a physical hallway and shout and praise God as if that money already came in.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, I don't look crazy.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_00: What are you talking about?
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_00: And they were like, it's about your praise.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_00: Your praise is a weapon.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_00: Your worship is a weapon in times of trial.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_00: And if we look at what's going on around us right now, it's pretty obvious there's a lot of trials going on in the world.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: So we must be equipped with our weapons in the season.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_00: We've got to be equipped with that weapon of worship.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: Stand in that hallway waiting and praising for the thing that we're trusting for in this new year.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_00: And in my case, relaunch it.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: Relaunching.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: So we've got the word.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_01: We're we've heard the worship song.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_01: So anything else besides relaunching that you would throw in that new habit, new rhythm category that you're going to try out.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_01: Again, it's just a try.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: That's the cool thing about rhythm.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: You might try it on you, like, eh, that rhythm's not working for me.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_00: What's come to mind for you?
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_00: So it's actually been a practice I've started the last couple of months with my friend Angela.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_00: She does a Sunday night pray through your week time where we actually do listening prayer with the Lord.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_00: And so I've actually, she's since asked me to lead it with our team before.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I immediately was like, we're not going to sit there and stare at Zoom and each other's faces.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I need songs.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_00: I immediately was like, I need what some people call prophetic soaking music, basically instrumentals.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_00: Bethel music has a really great playlist.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_00: I think Hillsong has some that are just instrumentals of hits.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_00: So you're not distracted by the words.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_00: Your spirits engaged in worship.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_00: You're just sitting in the presence of worship so you can hear differently, not just sing out.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_00: So think of it instead of you singing out, you're receiving in from the Lord.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_01: Totally different.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's amazing.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_01: I write to that music all the time because it's yeah, it's just so rich.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_01: It's good.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: So think of it as like a prayer power hour where instead of you praying out, you're listening in.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_00: And that's something that I actually got Angela Frost's brand new pray through your week like journal that she created because it's just been so amazing for me.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I literally will pray and say, okay, these are the names, Lord, you have on my heart for this week to talk to or engage with.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I've seen how even those very people have opened doors that I didn't see coming this week.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like going through checklist, like, are you cute?
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_00: This is so cool.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: So that's probably my biggest new rhythm.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_00: And so doing listening prayer actively as an appointment with God every week on my calendar with a worship playlist is huge.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_00: And I'll probably curate for the new year as well.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_00: I like to do that and just have kind of the sounds that go with my new word and prophetically what I'm sensing for the new season.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: Because I'm a nerd like that.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you know I'm here for it.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_01: We we have so many things, the link here in the show notes.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, we will do our best to make sure we get it all to the right spot because there's a lot here that I just love equipping, right?
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_01: And sharing new ideas, sharing story, how others are doing whatever this new thing is, or new rhythm, or or an old rhythm made new.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_01: All of these little elements, you've given a lot of practicals along the way.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_01: But overall, besides checking out your yes and amen gathering, I know you have a recording there.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_01: And that was that was really orchestrated and put together about setting the tone for the year ahead.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_01: And so that's very relevant.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_01: The playlist, checking out, okay, oh, what does what does Christina Schear do?
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_01: How like what does it look like to work with her?
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_01: I think I want to work with her.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_01: All of these different things that people are going to be excited to maybe check out, what's the next step?
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: But overall, if someone is maybe just new to this Christian faith or new to relationship and going, oh yeah, when Christ invites us into relationship, that involves a rhythm of worship.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_01: What if if someone is new or looking to change things up?
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_01: What sort of advice or steps would you give them?
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_00: That's such a great question.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I want three hours to answer it.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_00: I know mainly I want you all to think about worship as a love note from heaven for you.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_00: Whoa.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_00: That's what it is.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_00: I remember years ago understanding he's like playing your heart strings.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_00: And so if you're like, well, what is my song for the year?
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_00: You're still trying to figure out what is your word for the year, you're like, what are these people talking about at all?
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't listen to Christian music at all.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe I just said yes to Jesus for the first time, and I'm just understand understanding salvation as a whole.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_00: I want you to think about if you're engaged in worship at a church service, let's say, let's say you go to church, okay?
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: I want you to think about every Sunday when you go, is there a particular song that stands out to you?
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_00: Go find that song online.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_00: Most Christian songs have lyrics, like a lyrics-only video, and go watch and listen to it.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: Or just type in the song name.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_00: You might need to ask the worship pastor or the sound team in the back, what was the name of that third song during worship today where I was bawling my eyes out?
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_00: Just notice.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_00: And sit with those lyrics and listen to what God has to say to you.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: And that's a very practical thing you can do to have listening prayer.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_00: You can do that anytime.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you're like, oh my gosh, like Chris Tomlin's song, Good Good Father.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_00: I heard that song sung in South Africa in the World Cup Stadium with I think it was 50,000 people.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_00: Can you even imagine?
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, jealous.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_00: Where that song played, he asked for all of us to kneel on that cement floor in our stadium seats.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_00: Imagine like a whole arena NFL stadium kneeling quietly asking for the Lord to be present.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_00: And I will never forget a man yelled out, because there's always one that has to say so.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_00: Always.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_00: A man yelled out and he said, Forgive us.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_00: And it changed everything.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_00: And then they sang the song about how he's a good, good father, that he would forgive us.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_00: And and so many people came to know the Lord that night, truly encounter Jesus for the first time.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_00: So if you would just encounter him in that way where you are intentional, those lyrics are written just like the way you listen to the word of God, right?
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_00: You might listen to an audio Bible or read your Bible, whatever works for you.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_00: Sit still long enough, pull your journal out, write out those lyrics, listen to what he says, pictures you might see in your head, ideas, creative ideas you may have.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_00: I can't leave this podcast episode, Amy, without saying my favorite thing to say, which is take every creative thought captive.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_00: Uh not just the negative thought.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_00: We do that, and that's often taught in the church, but take every creative thought captive in the season.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_00: If you're sitting in his presence and you are listening to worship, God is going to download all these things.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_00: I know Amy's got like a whole book over there of all these ideas and all these things he's showing her.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_00: Take every creative thought captive.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_00: It may not all be for tomorrow or 2023.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_00: It may not be for 2025, it might not be for 10 years.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_00: Every creative thought captive and keep sitting with him and keep listening with him.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_00: And as you build up that relationship, just like you would a new friend, he's gonna sing more and more songs to you.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_00: And it's gonna be this beautiful, loving moment that when your heart is sad, you can go to him and worship.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_00: When your heart is joyful, you can praise with him and worship.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_00: When you are trusting for someone to get healed of cancer, go to him and travail and pray and fight and war and trust for the testimony of a healing.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_00: There's a song for every season that you're in.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's just, I just have this sense, it's like a lullaby.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_00: The same way your mother or your father would sing over you as you're sleeping.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_00: Let the Lord sing over you as you're sleeping, as you're walking through your day.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_00: Just invite that moment in, and you will see you will see a deep change in your Lord as you walk with him from a place of worship.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_01: Amen.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_01: Christina, so beautifully said.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_01: I I know that we could have filled three hours of conversation with this, but thank you for sharing just the cream of the cream, the very best of all of this.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_01: It has been such a gift, and I cannot wait for my friends to activate a rhythm of worship, whether a renewed vision for it or something totally new, 2023.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_01: May it uh just bring so much glory to our Father and may we receive the goodness that he has for us.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_00: Amen.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_00: Amen.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_00: Or I should say yes and amen.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I yes and amen.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_00: You can't have a whole event about yes and amen and praying with the Lord and not say it.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_00: But I will say if there's anyone that is looking for prayer, wants to talk about this a little bit more, or maybe you're looking to have like an actual discovery call to seek God about what is their brand strategy?
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_00: What do they do next in their life?
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_00: They're hearing God speak all these things and they need someone that is a brand clarity coach to provide resources and serve them.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm your girl.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_00: Come and see me.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_00: I'm at Christinashear.com.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_00: We'll include it in the show notes.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_00: I would be delighted to serve you and um and help you build the thing that God has placed inside you.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Amy.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_00: You're amazing.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I love you, Christina.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_01: Did you catch the phrase that Christina said?
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_01: She said, co-creating with God.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_01: That's such a beautiful concept.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_01: We get that privilege.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_01: We get to write, praise, work, and create our business and families with the Lord as our creative and wise partner.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_01: Come on now, what more could we want?
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_01: Now, I would be curious to know, are there certain sounds that speak to you?
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe genres of music that move your personality?
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_01: And are there songs out there that have made you feel closer to God over the years?
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_01: I would love for you to reflect on these questions with God and see what he has to say, as he knows you better than even you know yourself.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_01: I really believe that the Lord can guide you to the unique music that will help you feel his presence strongest and enjoy the spiritual discipline of worship as you continue to pray and plan your year.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_01: Now, next week, you're gonna get to meet another dear friend that I've known for well over 20 years.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_01: And when I say that, I don't know about you, but when I like say I've known someone for decades, I feel a little bit old.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_01: Especially because this friend and I, well, we were adults when we first met.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, Glenn Pacquiaum is a pastor, author, husband, and a dad to four amazing kids.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_01: His wife, Holly, she was on the podcast years ago, I think like 2017.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm thrilled to have Glenn come on and represent a new book that they wrote together about creating and writing out intentional rhythms each year.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_01: You know this is the perfect topic for wholehearted rhythms.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_01: I cannot wait to share that conversation with you next week.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_01: Until next time, continue to pursue God's perspective, purpose, and plans for your wholehearted life.