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Ian Furness 10/27 H3: John Lund, talkbacks, texts, Fact or Fiction and Softy! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KKRFM
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  Speaker 2: Headlines are brought to you by Frostbrood Coors Light. Cold
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  Speaker 2: as the Rockies. Lots of trades in the NFL involving
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  Speaker 2: the NFC West and the Indianapolis Colts. Earlier this morning,
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks picking up eight-time Pro Bowl and three-time first-team All-Pro
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  Speaker 2: guard Quentin Nelson for a 2027 third-round pick and a
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  Speaker 2: 2028 fifth-round pick. Moments ago. The Colts sent DeForest Buckner,
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  Speaker 2: defensive tackle with four sacks this season, to San Francisco,
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  Speaker 2: the team that drafted him in 2016 for a fourth-round pick.
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  Speaker 3: Boo.
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  Speaker 2: Offensive lineman, guard, Christian Haynes, former third-round pick for the Seahawks,
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  Speaker 2: released by the Hawks as well today. Cowboys beat the
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  Speaker 2: Eagles 38-21 last night in Monday Night Football. Landon Hatch
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  Speaker 2: is going to miss the rest of the season for
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  Speaker 2: the Huskies. Dan Lanning says Dante Moore will be the same,
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  Speaker 2: will miss the rest of the season. Brewers one win
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  Speaker 2: away from winning their first ever World Series. Eight run,
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  Speaker 2: two out rally last night on the way to a
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  Speaker 2: 10-1 win. They can sweep. Game four is tonight. Tonight. Tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Baseball season will be tonight. Kraken play tomorrow at home
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  Speaker 2: against the Toronto Maple Leafs. We'll see how it sounds
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  Speaker 2: in the arena, by the way. They played in Calgary
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  Speaker 2: last night. Now it's Canada. I get it. And it's
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  Speaker 2: Western Canada. I get it. But I watched the game
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  Speaker 2: last night. as we get ready to do the broadcast tomorrow,
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  Speaker 2: and it was a lot of Toronto fans.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, really?
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  Speaker 2: They're kind of the Yankees of the NHL in a sense.
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  Speaker 2: They've won less, but they're kind of like the Yankees.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people travel. So get on out there.
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  Speaker 2: Go see the Kraken tomorrow night. It's Kraken Ticket Tuesday,
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  Speaker 2: Calgary Flames. That's next Wednesday. By the way, no longer
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  Speaker 2: a pushover.
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  Speaker 5: The Calgary Flames?
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  Speaker 2: They've won four straight.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe we should be... I was looking forward to the
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  Speaker 5: last few times we were playing them.
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  Speaker 2: They play them Friday and then next Wednesday. That's... Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they all of a sudden decide they want to be good.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, I hope they decide they want to suck before they...
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  Speaker 5: when they play us and then they can be good
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  Speaker 5: again after.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's move into hour three. I think Lund's
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  Speaker 2: going to need a minute or two, right?
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  Speaker 6: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, moving to hour number three. It is funny. Now,
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  Speaker 2: he said he needed two minutes about a minute ago.
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  Speaker 7: We've got several texts suggesting his start time will be 2.06.
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  Speaker 2: 2.06, 2.06.37.
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  Speaker 5: Very specific. He said two minutes. Oh, that was two
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  Speaker 5: minutes ago. I'm calling him.
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  Speaker 2: Call him right now. Lund time is when he gets there.
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  Speaker 2: No matter the time, it's Lund time. Plus two minutes
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  Speaker 2: is the 2.06. Lund will be 2.03, says the 4.25.
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  Speaker 5: Also, he lied. He did not answer, so he was
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  Speaker 5: not ready in two minutes.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't think so.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to try one more time.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you try one more time. So it is a
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  Speaker 2: wild day here, by the way, for our friends in
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  Speaker 2: the NFC West. Again, I love this, the back and forth.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Sando might have had the tweet of the day,
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  Speaker 2: by the way. Our good friend Mike Sando joins us
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  Speaker 2: on Mondays. He'll be with the morning show later on
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  Speaker 2: this week. And he He said, the Rams, you're next up.
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  Speaker 2: What do you do? Trade for Miles? Oh, Miles Garrett's
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  Speaker 2: already there, just hasn't played yet. That's right.
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  Speaker 4: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: He's got an owie. Miles Garrett's hurt. Did he play
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  Speaker 2: in that first game? I'm trying to think. Did he
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  Speaker 2: play in that first game in Austria? I don't think
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  Speaker 2: he did. Maybe he did and got hurt. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff taking place down there right now.
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  Speaker 2: NFC West is a gong show. Lund, is he ready?
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  Speaker 5: He is ready.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do it.
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  Speaker 1: It's time for Ian's weekly visit with John Lund, Unleashed,
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  Speaker 1: the Bay Area rock star who Ian's been kicking around
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  Speaker 1: for a couple of decades. They'll be talking NFC West,
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  Speaker 1: the Niners, and the Hawks. Sponsored by Chambers Bay Distillery, land-crafted, ocean-aged,
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  Speaker 3: The 49ers stocked to a minimum, here's John Lund with Ian. Again,
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  Speaker 3: Chambers Bay Distillery.
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  Speaker 2: We've got trivia tonight at 7 o'clock, happy hour, 4
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  Speaker 2: three minutes, plus two minutes. Jeremy says 206, 37. God,
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  Speaker 2: that was pretty damn close. Lund start time 206, Lund
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  Speaker 2: over 207. It won't be 249. Lund 207, 7, which
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  Speaker 2: is basically bang on. Or 425 says a wizard is
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  Speaker 2: never late.
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  Speaker 4: Wow. I have an excuse. Well, there's excuses and explanations
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  Speaker 4: in life, and I have an explanation, which is They
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  Speaker 4: want my expert opinion on this trade that just happened
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  Speaker 4: with the 49ers, the yin and yang, the back and forth,
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  Speaker 4: the touche of getting Buckner while you.
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  Speaker 6: Got Nelson and taking players in the Colts.
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  Speaker 4: And so my show ends at 2. I try to leave.
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  Speaker 4: I try to be on time. And then people want
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  Speaker 4: my insight. So then I couldn't leave.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's better than the last time at 2 o'clock
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  Speaker 2: when they wanted to talk to you after the show.
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  Speaker 2: And that didn't end up so well, right?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you always love that when they walk in at
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  Speaker 6: 201 and.
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  Speaker 4: Go, the boss wants to see you.
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  Speaker 2: And you're just like, oh. You got a minute? You
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  Speaker 2: got a minute? What's going on?
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  Speaker 4: What's going on? Yeah, that's what they tell you. That's
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  Speaker 4: what they say. Hey, you got a minute? When the
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  Speaker 4: big boss never pokes his head in the studio, you
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  Speaker 4: know how that goes. And then the big boss pokes
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  Speaker 4: his head in at one point, one minute after the show.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, hey.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, you got a minute? It's like, not for getting fired,
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  Speaker 4: I don't. No, I do not have a minute to
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  Speaker 4: get fired.
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  Speaker 2: No, I do not.
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  Speaker 4: I got to go.
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  Speaker 2: Our big, big, big boss is here tomorrow. We have
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  Speaker 2: to dress up. From San Antonio, yeah. That funny thing is,
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't know who any of us are. He definitely
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  Speaker 2: doesn't know you and I actually.
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  Speaker 4: Definitely not.
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  Speaker 5: Never heard of us.
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  Speaker 4: The guy who fired me, our company is based in Atlanta,
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  Speaker 4: the guy who fired me but then rehired me, the
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  Speaker 4: same guy, said that what happened was there was a
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  Speaker 4: projector and they just had names down there and how
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  Speaker 4: much you made. And the bean counter in Atlanta just went... Fired, fired, fired, fired, fired.
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  Speaker 4: The guy called me later after I got fired. I
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  Speaker 4: was driving home and he goes, hey, man, I tried
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  Speaker 4: to save you, but they just looked on the chart.
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  Speaker 6: And they just said, you know, whoever's making money is out.
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  Speaker 2: That $ 30, 000 salary was just killing him, wasn't it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. What do you mean? You know, start a little higher.
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  Speaker 4: But my point is they don't have to know you
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  Speaker 4: to fire you. No. In fact, they'd rather not know you.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, God, no doubt.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: John Lund brought to you by our friends at Chambers
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Let's take us through today, buddy. Take us through what's
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  Speaker 2: I want. I want the reaction from the 49ers perspective
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  Speaker 2: on a Nelson and then the counterpunch later on today
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  Speaker 2: by John Lynch, just moments ago.
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  Speaker 4: What you want to know? It's funny is first of all,
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  Speaker 4: Lynch comes on our station. Of course he doesn't come
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  Speaker 4: on my show, but he, you know, you know how
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  Speaker 4: it is, uh, be in mid days. It's like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: Lynch and all these guys, they.
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  Speaker 6: Never come on my show.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, but, uh, But what happened was literally right as
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  Speaker 4: I was going on the air, Nelson goes to the Seahawks. So,
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  Speaker 4: you know, all the all the you know, you know
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  Speaker 4: how my prep is. It's just impeccable.
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  Speaker 10: Right.
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  Speaker 4: So all that goes out the window. And, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we talk about quitting Nelson and people are pissed. Like,
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  Speaker 4: what the hell is John Lynch doing and all this
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  Speaker 4: kind of stuff? And he's asleep at the switch. And
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  Speaker 4: then what's funny about.
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  Speaker 6: It is just a really, really quick, not that people care,
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  Speaker 6: but they might.
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  Speaker 4: So John Lynch is in season trades versus John Snyder's
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  Speaker 4: in season trades. I bring that up, which really didn't
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  Speaker 4: make people happy. Listen to this in season trades by
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  Speaker 4: the 49ers. Since Lynch became the GM, Jimmy Garoppolo, Emmanuel Sanders, McCaffrey,
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  Speaker 4: Randy Gregory, chase young, Khalil Davis, Keon white. So six
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  Speaker 4: of those nine guys are defensive linemen, but they're not
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  Speaker 4: guys that you would be like, Oh my God, I'm
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  Speaker 4: so excited. And then they get Buckner at the end.
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  Speaker 4: And then the, the list for, you know, John Schneider
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  Speaker 4: that I read off is like, you know, Leonard Williams,
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  Speaker 4: Ernest Jones, Marshawn Lynch, you know, Quentin Nelson, Rashid Shaheed, like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, guys that are, have made huge impacts and
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  Speaker 4: they don't win super bowls, either of them without those guys. So,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I read that off and then, you know,
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  Speaker 4: everyone gets even more pissed and, you know, John Lynch
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  Speaker 4: can't do this and John Lynch can't do that. So
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  Speaker 4: what was interesting about it was right when we started quitting,
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  Speaker 4: Nelson gets traded to the Seahawks. And then right when
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  Speaker 4: we go off the air, Buckner goes to the 49ers.
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  Speaker 4: And on the surface, it looks like, like you said,
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  Speaker 4: like a counterpunch, a yin-yang. But I think it's one
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  Speaker 4: of those things where the 49ers had three pressures last
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  Speaker 4: week on Michael Penix. your favorite quarterback in 36 dropbacks.
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  Speaker 4: And they went, that's not going to win. You know,
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  Speaker 4: they're not going to win. Like you, you can't win
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  Speaker 4: their average pressures to that point was 14 in a
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  Speaker 4: season and Pennix looked like a, you know, he looked
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  Speaker 4: like Tom Brady. He just, he crushed him throwing the ball.
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  Speaker 4: So I think that they made the decision after that
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  Speaker 4: game and they've got a lot of youth in the
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  Speaker 4: defensive line and it's got a lot of potential. But
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  Speaker 4: if you think about it now, Buckner is going to
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  Speaker 4: be back there like he was in 19. Bosa's coming
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  Speaker 4: back after the break. If he can stay healthy, they've
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  Speaker 4: got Osa Edigizu, who they got from the Cowboys, which
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  Speaker 4: that was a dumb move by Dallas. He's been really good.
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  Speaker 2: Really dumb move. Really dumb move. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's been great. And the point is, and
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  Speaker 4: you know this, and so do your listeners. In this division,
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  Speaker 4: the teams who have beefed up on the lines, the
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  Speaker 4: Rams are getting pushed around for years by the 49ers.
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  Speaker 4: They went big time on their offensive line and signings.
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  Speaker 4: They drafted a bunch of defensive linemen. They already had
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  Speaker 4: Donald at that point, but he was gone. But they
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  Speaker 4: beefed up their offensive and defensive lines. What does Seattle
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  Speaker 4: constantly do? They go get guys like Leonard Williams. They
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  Speaker 4: go get, you know, they, they draft Byron Murphy. They,
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  Speaker 4: they go get Quentin Nelson. They draft gray Zabel. Like
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  Speaker 4: in this division, I mean, the Cardinals look like a
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  Speaker 4: bunch of dopes. Like, what are you doing? They're taking,
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  Speaker 4: you know, they're taking love and, and, and Harrison and
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  Speaker 4: guys like that. Well, the three teams that, that are
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  Speaker 4: doing something in this division and winning super bowls and
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  Speaker 4: getting into championships are doing it in the trenches. And
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  Speaker 4: that's what happened today.
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  Speaker 2: Buckner was traded in 2020, right? First round pick in 2016,
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  Speaker 2: traded in 2020. Why was he traded and what does
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  Speaker 2: he bring back? I mean, I know the pressures are,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they're open. And he has, as far as
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  Speaker 2: interior linemen, he's like number two in the league in
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  Speaker 2: terms of sacks. He's got four. I think the leader's
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  Speaker 2: got four and a half. Now, I mentioned Leonard Williams
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  Speaker 2: has three and Byron Murphy has three for Seattle. So
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  Speaker 2: they got six combined just from those two dudes. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he does bring some juice, obviously, in the middle.
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  Speaker 2: But why did they trade him in the first place
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  Speaker 2: and go back and get him again?
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  Speaker 4: You know what it was? It was very similar to
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  Speaker 4: what happened in Seattle with Ken Walker III. They had
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  Speaker 4: decisions to make.
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  Speaker 6: So in 2019, they went to.
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  Speaker 4: The Super Bowl, and they had Eric Armstead and Buckner
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  Speaker 4: and Bosa and D4, and their D-line was awesome. But
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  Speaker 4: Armstead was coming up the next year.
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  Speaker 6: Bosa was on there.
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  Speaker 4: It came down to money, and they had a.
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  Speaker 6: Decision to make.
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  Speaker 4: Are they going to keep Armstead, or are they going
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  Speaker 4: to keep Buckner? And what the Colts did is the
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  Speaker 4: Colts said, we'll give you a first-round pick, and you'll
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  Speaker 4: remember this. When I say it, so then the Niners went, okay, great.
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  Speaker 4: With the 14th pick in the 2020 draft, they took
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  Speaker 4: Javon Kinlaw, a defensive lineman out of South Carolina. And
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  Speaker 4: the Niners thought, oh, this will be great. And we
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  Speaker 4: were out touting it. Hey, Buckner is going to make
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  Speaker 4: 23 million next year with the Colts in the first year.
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  Speaker 4: And Kinlaw is going to cost him 23 million over
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  Speaker 4: four years. What a great decision. Well, yeah, on paper
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  Speaker 4: it is, but Kinlaw sucked.
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  Speaker 6: And he's since gone to Washington and he's just okay.
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  Speaker 4: But they thought that they had Buckner replaced with Kinlaw.
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  Speaker 4: They decided to keep Armstead over Buckner because Buckner was
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  Speaker 4: up that year. And so they break up the defensive line.
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  Speaker 4: They keep Armstead. Armstead the next year got hurt, went
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  Speaker 4: off to Jacksonville. And that's kind of where the downhill
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  Speaker 4: started for this defense a little bit because they let
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  Speaker 4: Buckner go. They kept Armstead. They drafted Kinlaw. Kinlaw stunk.
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  Speaker 4: Armstead got hurt. ended up going to Jacksonville, and their
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  Speaker 4: defensive line has kind of been in flux ever since,
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  Speaker 4: and now they're kind of rectifying it.
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  Speaker 6: So, yeah, it was a very similar situation.
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  Speaker 4: They had to make a muddy decision and thought with
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  Speaker 4: that pick they would replace the player quite easily, but
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  Speaker 4: it didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Work that way. You foreshadowed last week, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: Well done. Good job by you. Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: I like to win you money.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you called that loss. Ashley got a fact in
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  Speaker 2: our fact or fiction contest, which is good, so she
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  Speaker 2: got a green checkmark there. Were there anything that was–
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you mentioned the lack of pressure. Was there
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  Speaker 2: anything else that was an actual concern, or was it
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  Speaker 2: just like, hey, man, we flew across country, emotional wins, blah, blah, blah,
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  Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. You're not going 17-0.
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  Speaker 4: Like anything, I mean, I know this is really elementary.
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  Speaker 4: They turned the ball over four times, brought through two
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  Speaker 4: dumb interceptions, one near a sideline he was trying to
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  Speaker 4: throw away. He just didn't see the buzz linebacker. He
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  Speaker 4: tipped it up and tipped it to himself. But they
• 14:01
  Speaker 4: had four turnovers. They turned into 17 points for Atlanta.
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: And it's pretty simple as that. And then they fumbled
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: it twice as well. So when you turn over the ball,
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: impress your friends with this, people. When you turn the
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: ball over four times in NFL history, you win exactly 8%
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: of the time.
• 14:18
  Speaker 6: So you're not going to win with four turnovers.
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: And that's what happened. They had a bunch of dumb
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: penalties in the secondary. And because of the lack of
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: pass rush, you know this, it works together. The defensive
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: backs are good when there's a pass rush. They're not
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: very good when they're not. So both their corners, when targeted,
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: it was something like five out of six completions for Pennix.
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's the best I've ever seen Pennix look.
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: So defensively, they couldn't get to the quarterback, but offensively,
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: They actually, they fumbled the ball three times and threw
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: two picks. They got one of them back. So four turnovers.
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: That was the story of the game.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: By week this week is, is Evans back the following week?
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So that, that's the whole thing too. And again, look,
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: there's no excuses in this league that they were down
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: to their fifth wide receivers and they were terrible. Those
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: guys were terrible. McCaffrey got hurt in the game. He's
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: got a strained hamstring.
• 15:05
  Speaker 6: Just so you know, but I know he's on your
• 15:06
  Speaker 6: fantasy team, but.
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: He's going to be back for the Raiders game. Well aware. Oh, okay.
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: You already know that, but he's going to be fine,
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: but they wouldn't have, honestly, if they didn't have that
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: lack of talent or lack of skill players, like I said,
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: they were down there fifth wide receivers. They didn't have Evans,
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: didn't have Debo, et cetera. They wouldn't have put McCaffrey
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: back in the game. He was genuinely hurt, but their
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: two rookie running backs, both fumbled and they had no
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: position players. So Shanahan had to put them back in
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: the game, even though he didn't want to. So McCaffrey, look,
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: it's not an excuse. Like you said, they lost the game.
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: They were up 14 to three in the game. Atlanta
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: scored 23 straight points.
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: So, you know, but you can see, I mean, you
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: see this all.
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: The time in sports. Like you look at a schedule
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: and you go, okay, that's a built-in loss and you
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: can see it, you know, they could have won the game,
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: but they just, like I said, too many mistakes, but
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: they'll take six and one into the break and they've got,
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: you know, they're going to get basically everybody back. I mean,
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: Kyle spoke today and said, Bosa is going to be back.
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: Evan's going to be back. Debo's going to be back.
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: So They kind of gave that away and said, okay,
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: we'll take six and one into the break, but it's
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: more important that these guys rest than we win a game.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: And that's kind of the thing that Seattle and the
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: Rams at this point really don't have the luxury of doing,
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: which is you know, you got to go kind of
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: balls to the wall. Now, if you're those teams to
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: get back in it. And I think, look, I think
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: Seattle will, if you look at the Rams next three games,
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: I think the Rams through 10 games will be six
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: and four. They've got three dog games, although they did
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: lose to the Arizona. So who knows, but they kind
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: of look like they're back on track. We all know this.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: This is going to be a dog fight. I don't
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: care where the 49ers are at six and one. This
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: thing's going to be a dog fight.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: It always is. We know. I think the big thing is,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: is you need this because we saw what an absolute,
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: absolute train wreck is. that the Philadelphia Eagles are. I
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: think we can just go ahead and say thanks for
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: coming at 2-5. The Canters are done. So really, the
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: NFC East is not a problem. I mean, the Giants
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: leading the way at 4-2-1, and the Cowboys are 3-4 still.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: one of those two teams is by default going to
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: win the division, and you don't really care who it is.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: One of those two teams wins. Carolina looked... I don't
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: know what the hell that was. I don't know what
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: they put on paper last week, but that was awful,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: what they did. Atlanta's probably a concern for them, but
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: you're not worrying about the NFC South. The concern still
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: has to be, with the NFC West... Do you get
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: three teams in, the division winner and two wild cards,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: and what does that mean for the NFC North? Because Lions, Packers, Vikings,
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: all very much in it.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think the team that scares me, the problem
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: with the Vikings is, and I get it, man, they're
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: 6-0 and your record is what it is. And Bill
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: Parcells one time said that, like, you know, we're not
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: as good as our record or we're not as bad
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: as our record. It's like, that is your record. Like,
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: that's what you are. But the Vikings offense is so
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: bad that I just, I can't take them seriously. Kyler Murray,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: we saw for years, he's not going to step up.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: So to me, the Vikings aren't a factor. Like you said,
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: the East and the South aren't a factor either. The
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: bears are intriguing because the issue with the bears is,
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: you know, we were talking about this today too, was
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: the 49ers are six and one, the bears are five
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: and two. Nobody wants to go to Chicago for the playoffs.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: And not just because Caleb Williams, and it's hard, hard
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: to say this, but he's becoming really, really good. And
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: that was, it wasn't just a one-year thing where he
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: pulled out a bunch of games. That's just how he plays.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: He kind of plays a frantic game. style and that's
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: just how the bears play and ben johnson's really smart
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: so if they fortify like if they were to get
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: a mac and fortify their defense a little bit i'd
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: be really scared of that team and i kind of
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: still am the lions don't have a good enough defense
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: the packers are inconsistent so to me it's the three
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: teams in the west and it's the bears but you
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: bring up a really good point which is are they
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: going to cannibalize each other because you still got to
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: play the niners one more time if you're the seahawks
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: you got to play the rams twice You know, how
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: do those games go? Are those a bunch of splits where,
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: you know, the Seahawks and the Rams have already played
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: their mulligans. So they can't be splitting games. Like they've
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: got to come here and win, which they've done. You know,
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: you know, one of those teams, Seattle or LA have
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: got to sweep the other. Like you can't, you can't
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: just be splitting all those games because like you said,
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: those other divisions are, those teams could win a bunch
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: of games because they just don't have the schedule that
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: these teams have.
• 19:10
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• 19:31
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• 19:32
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• 19:33
  Speaker 2: No, you're not. You wouldn't answer one question correctly. Not one.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: If they did sports, I would.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: They'd say, what's your name? And you'd get that wrong.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: What's your name? I don't know. I don't know what
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: my name is. Ian Furness. Why are you asking me that?
• 19:48
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• 19:50
  Speaker 4: It's on the name tag.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Let me wrap it up with this. How impressed were
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: you with what Seattle's defense did against Ken Walker and
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Pat Mahomes?
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, you and I were texting during the
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: game and I meant this in the ultimate respectful way.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: And I know people would never get the Niners credit,
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: but when Collinsworth, which, which by the way, the craziest thing,
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: I'm sure you've talked about it when he was lap-dogging
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Mahomes for a covering a fumble.
• 20:18
  Speaker 10: And then, and then, and then he throws the pick
• 20:22
  Speaker 10: and he didn't talk. Like, I don't know if you
• 20:25
  Speaker 10: guys talk about that, but like, Mahomes throws the pick
• 20:27
  Speaker 10: and it's all, it's all to Rico.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Like he didn't say a word.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: I was like, hello, is there an animal?
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: He didn't pause. Like there was nothing.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: So he was stunned, whatever with that guy.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: But, but he did, he said something during that. He said,
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: I've never basically, he said, uh, I've never seen my
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: homes kind of this bewildered or, you know, frazzled or whatever.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: The Niners did that to him twice. They couldn't finish
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: it in the Superbowl and he made a couple of plays.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: And so I was nervous during that game for you guys, because,
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: you know, I love Seattle.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: I love you guys.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: That the whole thing, believe me, I, on Monday, I said,
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: it was the weirdest feeling because 49ers fans wanted his
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: face rubbed in the dirt, but they wanted Kansas city
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: to win. Like they, they hate my homes here because
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: they took the two Superbowl. They hate them. But the, the,
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: their ability, cause it was 13, three.
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: And I'm thinking they're just going to make a play
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: and they're going.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: To come back. That's what Kansas city does. But that defense,
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: I've never seen, and I know the numbers back it up.
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: I've never seen Kansas City since Mahomes.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Was at full strength, not like a hobbling guy or whatever.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: at full strength to play that kind of defense against
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: those guys.
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: And I don't want to hear from cheese fans talking about.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Receivers and injuries. Everybody's got those, man. Like everybody's got,
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: everybody's got injuries. It's the NFL for them to do
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: what they did. They made Kelsey look old. Uh, the
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: offensive line was bad. I know they, you know, obviously
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: you guys have talked about it. They wanted to stop
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Walker and they did in all phases of the game.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: If that's the defense they're going to bring to the table, uh,
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: And if Darnold, I know what happened in the end zone.
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: That was two receivers running into each other.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: I think Shaheed. I mean, you're not, you know, KSN
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: should have been there. I think it was on Rashid Shaheed,
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: but I could be wrong. But when Darnold doesn't turn
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: the ball over and plays like that, they get the
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: running game going and they have a defense. They will
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: beat anybody. I don't care. Like they'll beat the 49ers.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: They'll beat the Rams. They'll beat anybody. They'll beat anybody
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: from the AFC. Like if they play like they did
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Sunday night, I'm sure you've talked about it like that.
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: I mean, look, I'd love to sit here and say
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: the Niners would beat them.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: No one would beat them.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: That's how they won the Super Bowl. That's how they
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: looked in the playoffs when he stopped turning the ball over.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's the team that won the Super Bowl.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Let's see. Quick text. Lund, how does not having the
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: trade feel?
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: Wow. Oh, that's a good trade. That's a good trade, man.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: If I had to come, I'll be completely honest. If
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: I had to come on here and it was just
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: the Quinton Nelson trade, I was dreading it. I was,
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: I was looking at my clock going to a pocket
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: coming really fast. I do not want to talk about
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: this trade. I do not want to hear it. And
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: after that defensive performance, after they just smoked Kansas city
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: and now they get the best garden football, I'm like, Oh,
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: and more so they get to put Brad, they put
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: a Anthony Bradford on the bench and the inconsistency of
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: him whiffing on defenders. What are people going to do
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: on YouTube? Some of those channels are going to have
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: to come up with total new content. They're not going
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: to have Bradford whiffing on defenders to bail them out.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: You know NFL fans. They'll find somebody else to rip on.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: I was dreading it. I was like, oh. And then
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: they made that trade. I'm like.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Ashley calls, I'll answer now. That's nice. Ashley's going to
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: call and I might actually answer.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: I'm busy. I got stuff to do. By the way,
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: what the hell? Hey, what the hell? Third place? What
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: the hell is that? Third place.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, in the rankings?
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: This is the number one show in the market.
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: You're the number one guest.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: We know that.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: You're the number one guest. Easy. But I think you
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: were mentioned in that. Were you not mentioned in that?
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: You were mentioned.
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was mentioned in that.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: Probably the only reason we're so high on the rankings.
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: First.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Greg Cosell not mentioned. Hugh Millen not mentioned. None
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: of our other guests mentioned. John Lund mentioned. That got
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: us third. Maybe the guy that did the list, if
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: he would have listened to more than the Tuesday segment,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: we would have been higher than three.
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: Maybe.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: Maybe that's when he does his walk around the lake
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: or something.
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: Doesn't he live in Bend or something? Maybe that's when.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: He walks his dog.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: He's easily impressed.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: That's evident. He's impressed by the two of us. All right,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: and Ashley, we'll talk to you after Monday Night Football
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: next week. That's it.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: We're going to go.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got listeners to hear from.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: All right. All right.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: See you.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: All right. All right.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: We'll take a quick break. Come back. We'll hear from
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: you on the talk backs next.
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: Don't go over this trade, Johnny. Johnny did it again,
• 24:38
  Speaker 8: but Johnny, we need a running back. I don't trust
• 24:42
  Speaker 8: what's coming back. We need a running back. Can you
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: go out there and grab us a running back? Johnny, Johnny,
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: I'm telling you, man, I wish you were the GM
• 24:54
  Speaker 8: of the old Seattle Mariners.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: That would be swell, too. But, John, good job.
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: Get us a running back, please.
• 25:04
  Speaker 11: Charles Cross got injured against the Chiefs, and everything I'm seeing...
• 25:09
  Speaker 11: says he's out for one or two weeks, comma. So
• 25:12
  Speaker 11: I assume they brought Quentin Nelson in to play left guard,
• 25:19
  Speaker 11: and then Gray Zabel, who played left tackle in college,
• 25:23
  Speaker 11: will cover for Cross, and then who knows what will
• 25:28
  Speaker 11: happen when Cross comes back.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: I'd be stunned. If a guy that hasn't taken a
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: snap even in practice to the best of anybody's knowledge
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: at tackle is moved out to tackle for Monday Night
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Football against the Bears.
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that would be quite a bold move.
• 25:48
  Speaker 12: I think college football is doing fine. NIL, expanding the playoffs,
• 25:52
  Speaker 12: all of this leads to... really getting for the first
• 25:55
  Speaker 12: time ever a playoff system that can determine who the
• 25:58
  Speaker 12: best college football team is any given season and not
• 26:02
  Speaker 12: whether or not you lost one game here or one
• 26:04
  Speaker 12: game there or didn't make your conference championship. Like reducing
• 26:08
  Speaker 12: conference powers and going to where there are actual divisions
• 26:12
  Speaker 12: in the same style as the NFL is good for
• 26:14
  Speaker 12: college football.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: They haven't gone to divisions though. The SEC and the
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Big Ten are bloated. It's just one big thing. Yeah,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: it's not the case at all. All right, next.
• 26:24
  Speaker 13: I feel like if you move Zabel anywhere and you
• 26:26
  Speaker 13: don't want to move Bradford, you move him to left
• 26:29
  Speaker 13: tackle for the time being to cover for Frost being out.
• 26:34
  Speaker 13: But I think the ideal move is moving Zabel to
• 26:37
  Speaker 13: right guard, taking.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Over for Bradford.
• 26:40
  Speaker 13: And you either move Bradford or keep him on the
• 26:43
  Speaker 13: team as depth on the O-line.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Bradford's in the last year of his deal. That seems
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: to be the one that makes the most sense.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: We got a couple more?
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: Hey, guys.
• 26:51
  Speaker 14: When the whole line's healthy, I hope it's like this
• 26:53
  Speaker 14: from left to right. Cross, Quinton Nelson, Jalen Sundell, Bradford,
• 27:01
  Speaker 14: and then we move Gray Zabel to right tackle. Abe's just–
• 27:06
  Speaker 14: he's laboring right now. He doesn't look right. I think
• 27:09
  Speaker 14: that is the healthiest– And I think Gray can do
• 27:13
  Speaker 14: just fine. Gray's got nimble feet. Gray can do it
• 27:16
  Speaker 14: on the right side. That's the line that I want.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: If Zabel moves to tackle, I've got to think it's
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: going to be in the offseason. I don't think it's
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: in season.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: I don't think that they would do that to him.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: No.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: No.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Last one.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: For the people wondering why we got a right guard
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: instead of a running back, you know what a right
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: guard can do for you?
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Open up running lanes. Thank you, Josh Schneider. Thank you,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: John Schneider. Everyone thank John Schneider today. There you go.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: On the count of three.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: Thanks, John.
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: One, two, three.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Thank you, John Schneider.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: Thank you, John.
• 27:45
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  Speaker 7: We're going college football, which is the first time I've
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  Speaker 5: And we're going to the Big Ten.
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  Speaker 7: Minnesota, massive underdogs at Indiana. Massive underdogs. 20 and a
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  Speaker 5: Half at Indiana.
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  Speaker 2: They can't score hoover's having a hard time offensively they
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: got that great defensive line i agree with you it's
• 29:37
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• 29:40
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• 29:44
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• 29:46
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  Speaker 7: I still think Indiana's going to win. I just don't
• 30:00
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  Speaker 2: I think Indiana's going to win as well. Indiana looked
• 30:04
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• 31:59
  Speaker 2: coming up here in the next couple minutes. The Seahawks
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: make a trade. The 49ers make a counter trade. The
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  Speaker 3: Your move, Rams. Come on, guys. Let's go.
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  Speaker 9: Cardinals are sitting it out going, eh, we're good.
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  Speaker 2: We're good. We're not going anywhere.
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  Speaker 3: We've got nothing left to trade anyway.
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  Speaker 4: We're good.
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  Speaker 2: Did you by any chance see the Sando tweet?
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  Speaker 9: I saw he was talking about how it was, well, no.
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  Speaker 3: Of, so tell me what you're thinking of. He took
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  Speaker 2: The Rams goes, Rams, your counter move. Maybe you should
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: go trade for Myles Garrett. Oh, that's right. Because he's
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: played one game.
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  Speaker 6: Totally.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Just kind of tapped out.
• 32:39
  Speaker 9: Aaron Donald's been a zero. Garrett's been a zero. I mean,
• 32:42
  Speaker 9: you know, the team of destiny.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: The team of destiny.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: What a bad year for Bill Plaschke. Holy cow. You
• 32:48
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• 32:48
  Speaker 9: He wrote they're going to go undefeated over the offseason.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: How's that going?
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Not well.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 32:55
  Speaker 9: I mean, they've got some games coming up. I was
• 32:57
  Speaker 9: checking their schedule at the Rams on the way in
• 32:59
  Speaker 9: here today. They've got a chance to maybe go on
• 33:01
  Speaker 9: a bit of a run here.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, they do.
• 33:03
  Speaker 9: They've got what? Chargers, Commanders, Arizona. So between them, the Hawks,
• 33:10
  Speaker 9: and the Niners, it feels like one of them is
• 33:11
  Speaker 9: going to make a move here and go 3-0 in
• 33:13
  Speaker 9: the next three games. The question is, which one? Raiders, Cowboys, Vikings, Hawks,
• 33:18
  Speaker 9: and the next four for San Francisco. Can we get
• 33:21
  Speaker 9: to that game in Santa Clara at the end of November,
• 33:24
  Speaker 9: which I believe is the day after.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: The Oregon game?
• 33:26
  Speaker 9: Because we play the Ducks down there on the 27th,
• 33:29
  Speaker 9: I think, is that Saturday?
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Okay.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Because we get the Niners on the 28th, right?
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: Down there? Yep. 29th.
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: 29th.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Can they make that game meaningful?
• 33:38
  Speaker 9: Can they pull it within one game by then and
• 33:40
  Speaker 9: give themselves a chance to pull into a tie?
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Even if it's two games, it's still meaningful because you're
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: a game and a half back no matter what.
• 33:47
  Speaker 8: Sure.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: With the tiebreaker as it is, right? So that's a
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: massive game.
• 33:50
  Speaker 9: But if you're a game back before the game and
• 33:53
  Speaker 9: you lose it, then you're three out.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Then you're just wild card back.
• 33:57
  Speaker 9: So again, I want to be a game back. I
• 33:59
  Speaker 9: don't want none of this two-game nonsense. I don't accept.
• 34:02
  Speaker 9: I will not say yes to two games. I want
• 34:05
  Speaker 9: one game back.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Bears, Cardinals, Raiders. Bears, Cardinals, Raiders.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: 3-0? The Hawks? They better be. I mean, if they're
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: the team that we all think they are.
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: He wants one game back.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Give me one game back.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: How worried are you about the Bears?
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: Scale of one to ten.
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: Five, maybe? I don't know.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Can I ask a question?
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: Were you more worried about the Bears before this past weekend?
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 34:31
  Speaker 9: 100%. But I am, though, very curious, and I don't
• 34:35
  Speaker 9: even know the answer myself. How much of what we
• 34:38
  Speaker 9: saw the Seahawks do to Kansas City was because of them,
• 34:41
  Speaker 9: and how much was it because of injuries to Kansas City?
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: Fair.
• 34:44
  Speaker 9: I mean, I think that's, you can't just ignore that. Like,
• 34:47
  Speaker 9: I think the Hawks would have won the game.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:49
  Speaker 9: But that was a, I mean, the last three days
• 34:51
  Speaker 9: for Seahawks football, or two days, really, Sunday night, And
• 34:55
  Speaker 9: then today, it's not even 48 damn hours. They whip
• 34:58
  Speaker 9: the Chiefs, just demolish them, and then go out and
• 35:01
  Speaker 9: get maybe the best guard available on the trademark.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: But could you not counter with this?
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: Everyone's excited.
• 35:07
  Speaker 14: Everyone.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: So they're missing a tackle who hasn't played all year.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: But they're missing Rasheed Rice, who's their best receiver. Seattle's
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: missing their two top running backs.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Is that not just a push? Is it a push?
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: I think that the impact.
• 35:21
  Speaker 9: That the Chiefs, the players the Chiefs lost would be
• 35:25
  Speaker 9: more valuable.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Or more important or more apt to make a difference,
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: I would say.
• 35:30
  Speaker 9: I mean, Jadarian Price, let's face it, for as much
• 35:33
  Speaker 9: as we hope he's going to do good things, he's
• 35:35
  Speaker 9: done nothing yet.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, he could be a total bust for all
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: we know. I hope not.
• 35:40
  Speaker 9: I don't think he's going to be. But it's not
• 35:42
  Speaker 9: like losing Kenny Walker in the middle of December last
• 35:45
  Speaker 9: year for crying out.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Loud, right?
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: No.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: But when they lost Kenny Walker, we say it's Charbonnet.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: But they would have won anyway. They would have won anyway.
• 35:52
  Speaker 9: That whipping that Mike McDonald put on Andy Reid, man,
• 35:55
  Speaker 9: that was impressive. I mean, he took the old man
• 35:57
  Speaker 9: back behind the dumpster and just beat his ass.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Throttled up.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of sad to watch.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Assuming Seattle takes care of business 7-3.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Correct. Going into that game.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Raiders, Cowboys, Vikings. So we need the Vikings to do
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: us a favor.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: We need Minnesota.
• 36:10
  Speaker 9: We need Brian Flores to step it up, who's the big-time,
• 36:14
  Speaker 9: hot-shot defensive coordinator of the year in the NFL.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Blitz, blitz, blitz!
• 36:18
  Speaker 9: Need Dallas to get it all figured out, no doubt
• 36:20
  Speaker 9: about it. I don't have any faith in the Raiders
• 36:22
  Speaker 9: beating them, to be honest with you. Can they go 1-2?
• 36:26
  Speaker 9: They play at Dallas? Can Dallas maybe, just maybe? Yes,
• 36:29
  Speaker 9: because the Cowboys have a good offense, but their defense stinks.
• 36:32
  Speaker 9: Their defense is terrible. Christian Parker has not made a
• 36:34
  Speaker 9: difference as a D coordinator. So what did you think
• 36:35
  Speaker 9: of Quentin Nelson?
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: I'm excited.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Were you just jacked?
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Very excited.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Were you like me when you heard the following? This
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: is how I heard about the trade. I turned on
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: the radio. I was away from stuff for a few minutes,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: get in the car.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: First thing I hear, headlines with Greg Bell. The Seahawks
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: have made a trade. And you're thinking running back. And
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: he says, with the Indianapolis Colts. And you're thinking Jonathan Taylor.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, whoa, here we go. Well, that's the.
• 37:00
  Speaker 9: Position that I would have thought that would have been
• 37:01
  Speaker 9: most likely to go out and address.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: So he says, may trade Colts. And I'm thinking Taylor.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: And then he says, for a third and a fifth.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Then I'm thinking, okay, maybe Quentin Nelson. And it was
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Quentin Nelson. Because Taylor's not a third-round pick guy. He's
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: probably going to go higher.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: But the thing with– I know Jadarian Price has proved nothing.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: I just don't– unless it's a Tony Pollard for a
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: later pick, I can't imagine him investing in that position.
• 37:22
  Speaker 9: I mean, look, he's owed $ 40 million the next two years, right?
• 37:25
  Speaker 9: If you go out and get him, then between Charbonnet
• 37:27
  Speaker 9: and Price, somebody's not playing. I mean, you know, Taylor's getting– 15,
• 37:31
  Speaker 9: 18 carries a game.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: But I think this probably tells you. Well, I mean,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Taylor might be on the block with Buckner getting traded, too. Well,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: the fire sale has commenced. I mean, they're throwing in
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: the towel. They are absolutely quitting. They are punting on 2026.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, though.
• 37:45
  Speaker 9: The question for me, and we're going to talk to
• 37:46
  Speaker 9: Hugh about this at 320, is Zabel going to right guard?
• 37:51
  Speaker 9: Would they dare boot Sundell and put Gray Zabel at center?
• 37:54
  Speaker 9: You know, Gray Zabel's played some left tackle in college, obviously.
• 37:57
  Speaker 9: But they got maybe the best backup left tackle in
• 38:00
  Speaker 9: football in Josh Jones. So they have options, which is great.
• 38:04
  Speaker 9: That's a good thing.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: To the best of our knowledge, and again, they have
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: practices in season where we don't see it. But whether
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: it be minicamp, OTAs, training camp, no one has seen anything.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: any sign of Zabel ever moving outside since he got here.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Doesn't mean he can't, but that'd be a weird in-season move, right?
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: Of course.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: But inside, don't you think he just goes to right guard?
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: I would think so.
• 38:25
  Speaker 9: I would think that that's where, I mean, Quentin Nelson
• 38:27
  Speaker 9: is a three-time All-Pro, eight-time Pro Bowler. He's made the
• 38:30
  Speaker 9: Pro Bowl every year since he was drafted from Notre Dame.
• 38:33
  Speaker 9: There's only one other guy that's done that, and that's
• 38:36
  Speaker 9: Joe Thomas, by the way. Nobody else has done that
• 38:38
  Speaker 9: in their first eight years in the NFL. So going
• 38:40
  Speaker 9: to a guy like that who's been that good, it's
• 38:42
  Speaker 9: like going to Richard Sherman and saying, hey, can you
• 38:44
  Speaker 9: play safety?
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Right?
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Earl, can you play corner?
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: Hey, man.
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: You know?
• 38:49
  Speaker 10: No, man.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: I'm good, man. Okay?
• 38:52
  Speaker 9: But, yeah, I think that's the likely move is Gray's
• 38:55
  Speaker 9: able to right guard and Quentin Nelson takes.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Over at left.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Earl will probably think he can play quarterback.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: Earl thinks he can do anything.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: Earl, go be a clown in the circus.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: I got you.
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  Speaker 2: I got you. I can do that.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 39:05
  Speaker 9: Hugh Millen at 320. Hugh Millen, 320. Husky Honks at four.
• 39:08
  Speaker 9: John Wilner today. Great time to have him on, man.
• 39:11
  Speaker 9: What's going on with Oregon? You see the latest news
• 39:13
  Speaker 9: out of Oregon today?
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Dante's out.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Well, they had another coach get arrested for a DUI.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: A coach? Yeah, they're falling apart, dude. They are absolutely,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: they may not win a game. I'm not kidding you.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: All those people that were brought down there to Eugene
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: for the NIL. To where? And Eugene for the NIL.
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: Eugene, Oregon.
• 39:30
  Speaker 8: Money.
• 39:31
  Speaker 9: I mean, they are just sinking. They're a sinking freaking
• 39:35
  Speaker 9: ship down there, man. And I'm very worked up about it.
• 39:38
  Speaker 9: I'm broken up. I used to really kind of root
• 39:41
  Speaker 9: for Oregon. Only because it pissed.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: You guys off.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Why would you root for Oregon?
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Not anymore. Watching Dan Lanning over the last two years.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Everything bad that happens to Oregon, I am enjoying as
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: much as you. I'm not enjoying it as much as you,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: but close.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: It is incredible.
• 39:58
  Speaker 9: Assistant head coach Rashad Samples currently in Eugene Municipal Court
• 40:02
  Speaker 9: facing DUI and reckless driving.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Get an Uber, fella.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Get an Uber, fella. No kidding, man. It's falling apart
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: down there.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: That's unfortunate. That's unfortunate.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Tomty's next to you.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: All right, buddy.