Latest / WCHS Network Podcasts / 06/12/2025 Ask the Lawyer with Tom Peyton
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- 0:56Speaker 6: five fifty eight three four five fifty fifty eight. Tom
- 0:59Speaker 6: Payton is a studio with us this morning to talk
- 1:01Speaker 6: about the Peyton Law Firm in micro West Virginia.
- 1:03Speaker 5: Tom, good morning, how you doing this morning?
- 1:05Speaker 4: I'm doing great deal.
- 1:05Speaker 5: How are you doing?
- 1:06Speaker 7: Not too bad?
- 1:06Speaker 6: Not too bad at all. We finally have that uh
- 1:09Speaker 6: the breaking weather. It feels like it's uh, we're in
- 1:12Speaker 6: the summer area finally.
- 1:13Speaker 4: Yeah, we're getting there. Just kind of the polar opposite
- 1:16Speaker 4: of last year when we had the drought, which, yeah,
- 1:19Speaker 4: there was some benefits to the drought. You didn't have
- 1:20Speaker 4: to know your grass as, didn't really have to worry
- 1:23Speaker 4: about what the rain was going to affect your outdoor activities.
- 1:27Speaker 4: Now we got raining almost every single day, at least
- 1:31Speaker 4: in Taye Valley. It's spotty. Uh really good for your garden,
- 1:34Speaker 4: I got it.
- 1:35Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:35Speaker 4: True, I have a little garden just tomatoes and cucumbers,
- 1:38Speaker 4: but it's growing like wildfire right now with all this
- 1:41Speaker 4: rain and sun.
- 1:42Speaker 6: So seeing the less yellow jackets in my yard. So
- 1:44Speaker 6: that's been nice that we did have that problem last year.
- 1:47Speaker 4: They come out of the ground, I guess, and the
- 1:49Speaker 4: dryness I don't know, start looking for water, moisture or what.
- 1:53Speaker 4: But yeah, they were a problem last year. But everything's
- 1:55Speaker 4: going smooth. At the Payton Law Firm, we be forewarned.
- 1:59Speaker 4: I know you got it on the traffic report. They've
- 2:00Speaker 4: got one lane shut down. They're doing some bridge repair
- 2:05Speaker 4: coming in near institute, so you can get through it
- 2:08Speaker 4: just goes down to two lanes, but expect that's why
- 2:12Speaker 4: I was coming a little hot this morning fifteen minutes
- 2:16Speaker 4: and standstill traffic there at the Institute area.
- 2:18Speaker 6: But it's really pretty incredible that you could take that
- 2:21Speaker 6: section between like the mcorworl Avenue exit and South Charleston
- 2:25Speaker 6: and go up to you know, Nitro exit somewhere out
- 2:27Speaker 6: through there.
- 2:28Speaker 5: That area is just under constant assault.
- 2:29Speaker 6: I mean just the constant, constant barrels, constant, the redos.
- 2:33Speaker 5: It's just on and on and on.
- 2:34Speaker 4: It is a lot better now the days driving to
- 2:37Speaker 4: the radio in the morning and wondering what would I
- 2:41Speaker 4: see or running to today at the Dunbar Bridge where
- 2:44Speaker 4: it crosses the river there ever before you get to
- 2:47Speaker 4: Jefferson Road exit and it was just a nightmare. And now,
- 2:50Speaker 4: of course we have the six lanes with a really
- 2:54Speaker 4: good on and off ramp design at the Nitro area,
- 2:57Speaker 4: so that makes it more convenient. We've got, unfortunately, and
- 3:01Speaker 4: I think Amanda Baron has done a little reporting on this,
- 3:03Speaker 4: we have this. You know, this bridge was just completed
- 3:06Speaker 4: like last was the last last year, sometime maybe the
- 3:10Speaker 4: year before. It's new, but it's got this massive dip
- 3:15Speaker 4: where the bridge joins to back to the regular roadbed
- 3:19Speaker 4: on I sixty four, I think, mostly heading east, but
- 3:24Speaker 4: now they have I see big yellow sounds that say
- 3:26Speaker 4: dip on them, pointing down. So I don't know what
- 3:28Speaker 4: you're supposed to do about that. If you're a lot
- 3:31Speaker 4: of people are breaking, I guess, but we had. It's
- 3:33Speaker 4: just I'm sure they're working on it. I've heard anecdotal
- 3:38Speaker 4: information that they're going to repair it, but brand new construction.
- 3:42Speaker 4: And when you go from the bridge back to the
- 3:45Speaker 4: solid road bed, you right a large dip. We had
- 3:50Speaker 4: a problem with the other day. Actually, the interstate was
- 3:51Speaker 4: shut down for a minute because I think there was
- 3:54Speaker 4: a truck I don't know if it was a pickup
- 3:56Speaker 4: truck or a probably some type of dunk truck hauling
- 4:01Speaker 4: asphalt of some sort and hit the dip. Boom load
- 4:04Speaker 4: pops out all over the interstate and there's there, you know,
- 4:08Speaker 4: I would assume, And we've talked about bonding a little
- 4:12Speaker 4: bit with construction companies before. We all public jobs have
- 4:14Speaker 4: to be bonded, which is essentially a insurance that the
- 4:18Speaker 4: job will be completed correctly. So I would think certainly
- 4:22Speaker 4: that's not the standard. Hopefully they've got you know, another
- 4:26Speaker 4: Governor Morrisey was talking about doh spending and priorities this
- 4:29Speaker 4: past week, and hopefully the company is coming back in
- 4:32Speaker 4: it did that construction to do some repairs on it,
- 4:34Speaker 4: because it's entirely unacceptable, and if it was your driveway,
- 4:36Speaker 4: you just be on them constantly because it's not something
- 4:39Speaker 4: that's acceptable. I haven't heard of any really bad recks
- 4:44Speaker 4: in that area because of the dip yet, and hopefully
- 4:46Speaker 4: knock on wood, we don't have any, but certainly some
- 4:49Speaker 4: undercarriages have been damaged for vehicles, and then we had
- 4:52Speaker 4: this big spill there the other day where the load
- 4:54Speaker 4: popped out of the back of the pickup truck.
- 4:57Speaker 6: But yeah, the thing that really it's weird because this
- 5:01Speaker 6: is a memory that I have from it must be
- 5:03Speaker 6: there near over thirty years in the thirty years old
- 5:06Speaker 6: memory that I have now. But I remember the first
- 5:08Speaker 6: time I started driving around the rest of the country,
- 5:11Speaker 6: you know, when I was not just driving in West Virginia,
- 5:13Speaker 6: but when I was you know, sixteen seventeen years old.
- 5:15Speaker 6: I had friends that are older than me that went
- 5:17Speaker 6: in college out of state, and I would drive to
- 5:18Speaker 6: see them and went on to minor league baseball tours
- 5:21Speaker 6: and so gradually expanded out. Eventually I drove around the
- 5:24Speaker 6: country twice, but expanded out. And what I discovered when
- 5:28Speaker 6: I was a kid was that when you were in
- 5:30Speaker 6: West Virginia and you saw a sign that said dip, brother,
- 5:32Speaker 6: you better hold on because you're getting ready to go
- 5:35Speaker 6: through a dip. That's going to be something of significance
- 5:37Speaker 6: that you're getting ready to hit. When you're in Ohio
- 5:39Speaker 6: and you see a sign that says dip, that's not
- 5:42Speaker 6: necessarily true. And so if you're from out of state
- 5:45Speaker 6: and you see a sign that says dip, you don't
- 5:46Speaker 6: really know what scale of dip you're going to be hitting,
- 5:49Speaker 6: because depending on where you're from, that can mean something
- 5:51Speaker 6: completely different.
- 5:52Speaker 4: Yeah, this is not a very effective warning either. A
- 5:54Speaker 4: dip sign right, that's on the bridge. So you actually
- 5:58Speaker 4: go through the first joint where there's a dip, then
- 6:01Speaker 4: you see the sign pointing down and that's where the
- 6:03Speaker 4: when you come off the bridge, there's a little bigger dip,
- 6:07Speaker 4: and so it's not a very good good warning. Hopefully
- 6:09Speaker 4: they'll get it. They've been talking about getting it fixed.
- 6:11Speaker 4: Hopefully it's not a big shut down for any length
- 6:13Speaker 4: of time because it is really nice working in Nitro
- 6:16Speaker 4: and having to deal with that entrance an exit ramp
- 6:20Speaker 4: sat almost Nier area. The last year has been really
- 6:22Speaker 4: nice since they've had it done. The design's good. He's
- 6:24Speaker 4: got some construction problems there, so hopefully they get that
- 6:27Speaker 4: get that improved. We'll see. I know that Patrick Morris.
- 6:32Speaker 4: Governor Morsey had a press conference with this week or
- 6:34Speaker 4: last week about prioritize. Of course, we put a lot
- 6:38Speaker 4: of money into the roads, there's no doubt about that
- 6:40Speaker 4: during the Justice administration. I think most of it was
- 6:44Speaker 4: funded with the sale of bonds, so puts US in debt.
- 6:48Speaker 4: But Governor Morrisey was kind of talking about switching priorities
- 6:53Speaker 4: from new roads to making sure we have our current
- 6:56Speaker 4: roads in better shape and don't hear as many complaints
- 7:01Speaker 4: this time of year because they've asphalt plants are running,
- 7:04Speaker 4: most of the pothole repair has been been done. But uh,
- 7:08Speaker 4: I tend to agree with him. Of course, place we
- 7:10Speaker 4: got the Nitro interchange was repaired because of that money,
- 7:14Speaker 4: which is great. I like I like that, but we'll
- 7:18Speaker 4: see where he puts his priorities. I have I kind
- 7:20Speaker 4: of dovetails into another story Brad Michael hen Hey did
- 7:25Speaker 4: yesterday or this morning. I heard them the titled unrest
- 7:30Speaker 4: with the Western University Board of Governors. Yeah, so the
- 7:35Speaker 4: Board of Governors are appointed by the governor of the state.
- 7:38Speaker 4: This is the Western University Board of Governors, and and
- 7:43Speaker 4: you know, staggered terms I think for the different board
- 7:46Speaker 4: of governors meet members and so they have some that
- 7:49Speaker 4: are coming up for that could be voted to be
- 7:51Speaker 4: renewed or a new person can be replace them, I assume,
- 7:57Speaker 4: and they're having a meeting tomorrow. So Brad did a
- 7:59Speaker 4: little story on some unrest with the Board of Governors
- 8:01Speaker 4: about maybe whose terms are ending and who will stay
- 8:04Speaker 4: and might have been I read some kind of what
- 8:07Speaker 4: I'll call scuttle butt about it, but maybe some disagreement
- 8:12Speaker 4: on the board about who the new president should be
- 8:14Speaker 4: after Gordon Gee's gone, which is imminent now at this point.
- 8:17Speaker 4: But I noticed in Brad's story he interviewed Brake Harry,
- 8:21Speaker 4: who's still a member of the Western University Board of Governors.
- 8:26Speaker 4: And because credit, I think Bray talked to Brad and
- 8:31Speaker 4: gave a statement on some things. And then I decided
- 8:34Speaker 4: to point out that we Brad, you need to make
- 8:36Speaker 4: sure you disclosed that you worked for Westernior Radio cour
- 8:39Speaker 4: or w VRC Media because you probably remember because you've
- 8:44Speaker 4: been here for a long time. But you know, used
- 8:46Speaker 4: to be this radio corporation broadcast to all the Mountaineer games.
- 8:49Speaker 4: Oh yes, yeah, I liked it because some of our
- 8:52Speaker 4: commercials got played on there, and and it's a good
- 8:57Speaker 4: frequency and easy to get no matter where you are,
- 9:00Speaker 4: and had really good, good coverage.
- 9:02Speaker 6: But and we took pride on it and made sure
- 9:03Speaker 6: we oughted on and that you know, to put a
- 9:05Speaker 6: lot of programming around it. You know.
- 9:06Speaker 5: Yeah, it was good.
- 9:07Speaker 4: It was a good thing, and it's locally based and
- 9:09Speaker 4: it's locally based. So but times change, and so uh
- 9:14Speaker 4: what was it ten fifteen years ago? Maybe maybe ten
- 9:17Speaker 4: years ago, but you know, needing to gain money, I
- 9:21Speaker 4: think W essentially or their athletic arm kind of bid
- 9:25Speaker 4: out the broadcast rights and IMG Sports got it, which
- 9:31Speaker 4: is a think national or maybe internationally based kind of
- 9:35Speaker 4: sports marketing firm, is what I would call it. And
- 9:38Speaker 4: then they probably just resold some of the broadcast rights
- 9:41Speaker 4: on down the line. But there was a dispute about
- 9:44Speaker 4: it Westernior Radio Corporation. I think fout a lawsuit. There
- 9:49Speaker 4: was litigation, yeah, and about it, and I think I'm
- 9:54Speaker 4: not sure I saw details, maybe a siddle somewhere down
- 9:56Speaker 4: the line. But because of that controversy probably a decade
- 10:03Speaker 4: or more run the decade it was. Yeah, So then
- 10:06Speaker 4: break Arey decides to tell Brad Mackley because of that,
- 10:08Speaker 4: he needs to make sure he lets everybody know and
- 10:10Speaker 4: his report that implying bias because Brad works for what
- 10:16Speaker 4: is essentially Western Radio Corporation under a new name. Now,
- 10:19Speaker 4: of course I've read one hundred stories of Brad macliny
- 10:22Speaker 4: and other reporters for this company, and if there's some
- 10:27Speaker 4: even appearance of conflict, it's always noted that this is
- 10:30Speaker 4: on behalf of WVRC Media, and there's a little blip
- 10:34Speaker 4: maybe on why sure, there could be it needs to
- 10:39Speaker 4: be disclosed that there's some prior relationship or something like that.
- 10:42Speaker 4: So I thought it was rather odd because Brad always
- 10:45Speaker 4: is I think, pretty careful about about doing that. But
- 10:50Speaker 4: and then of course break here he got on the
- 10:54Speaker 4: board of Governors, and you might remember it's twenty seventeen
- 10:58Speaker 4: to twenty twenty one. He was had some role with
- 11:01Speaker 4: the Governor's office Governor Justice as like senior advisor or something.
- 11:05Speaker 4: I don't remember well if he was even put on
- 11:07Speaker 4: the payroll it was. It might have been a technicality
- 11:11Speaker 4: where he got almost like a minimum wage type salary
- 11:13Speaker 4: or something that may not be accurate. But I remember
- 11:16Speaker 4: a little bit of controversy about the position because it
- 11:18Speaker 4: didn't exist before he put break.
- 11:21Speaker 5: Here on there.
- 11:22Speaker 4: But since we're talking about conflicts of interest in it,
- 11:24Speaker 4: and it's a case that hasn't got really any media coverage,
- 11:28Speaker 4: probably because it doesn't involve a lot of money. But
- 11:30Speaker 4: I represent three households that owned property and half for
- 11:37Speaker 4: decades down in the town of Buffalo. And in Brad's
- 11:42Speaker 4: story this morning, he references a Vandelia LLC company that
- 11:46Speaker 4: had some connection at least at one time anecdotally, I've
- 11:50Speaker 4: received information I don't think it does anymore, but had
- 11:52Speaker 4: connections to Roger Henshaw as an officer. He may be
- 11:55Speaker 4: still listed on the Secretary State's website, but I don't
- 11:57Speaker 4: think he has anything to do with that up anymore.
- 12:00Speaker 4: But in any event, during the Justice administration within the
- 12:05Speaker 4: last year and a half two years and back up
- 12:11Speaker 4: before that van Delia this company, and there's multiple Vendelia
- 12:14Speaker 4: companies that you don't know what their relationship is. They
- 12:17Speaker 4: obviously have some overlap because they have same or similar
- 12:20Speaker 4: officers and they've transferred some land one way or another.
- 12:24Speaker 4: But they bought run a large tract of land down
- 12:28Speaker 4: there in Buffalo, and it's essentially from most of it
- 12:33Speaker 4: was from the power company Franklin Real Estate, it's the
- 12:36Speaker 4: landholding company for Apple each and Power American Electric Power.
- 12:40Speaker 4: And within that deed, you know, in essence, they sold
- 12:45Speaker 4: them a big tract of land that, other than a
- 12:50Speaker 4: small area off a more rural road, didn't connect to
- 12:54Speaker 4: the public road about sixty two that goes through Buffalo there.
- 12:59Speaker 4: So within that deed, the power company granted because it
- 13:03Speaker 4: retains some of the land between Vandalias and the public road,
- 13:08Speaker 4: the right of vanda may even have required the power
- 13:11Speaker 4: company to help construct a right away for at least
- 13:14Speaker 4: forty feet in width. As I recall, so that you know,
- 13:17Speaker 4: it'd be like you buy a property for me, I
- 13:19Speaker 4: subdivided off sell you what i'll call the back piece,
- 13:23Speaker 4: but I grant you the right to have a road
- 13:25Speaker 4: to my property to make sure you have access to
- 13:27Speaker 4: the public road, and it's wide, it's plenty wide, and
- 13:29Speaker 4: it might even put an obligational on me to help
- 13:32Speaker 4: you construct that road so you can get to your property.
- 13:34Speaker 4: So it looks good. They're going to apparently some kind
- 13:37Speaker 4: of investment company. Then my clients who live just down
- 13:43Speaker 4: the road on the rural road that just connects to
- 13:47Speaker 4: a little bit of this property is approached by DOH
- 13:50Speaker 4: and all of a sudden they've got stakes in their
- 13:52Speaker 4: front yard. So what happened in that process? Department of
- 13:59Speaker 4: Highways decided, I guess, to help this company, which has
- 14:03Speaker 4: various governmental connections at least folks high end in the
- 14:07Speaker 4: government are involved, to take portions of my client's front yards,
- 14:13Speaker 4: significant portions. It'll move a public road much closer to
- 14:17Speaker 4: what would be like your living room window, which.
- 14:23Speaker 5: That's right.
- 14:24Speaker 4: And it's an entrance off the main road, so there's
- 14:28Speaker 4: no I haven't seen traffic studies. They might be out there.
- 14:31Speaker 4: I don't know that there are. But in essence, what
- 14:33Speaker 4: the d H decided to do was expand an entrance
- 14:37Speaker 4: to this rural road, make it wider, which I presume
- 14:40Speaker 4: is for big trucks to come in and out to
- 14:45Speaker 4: this Vandalia company's property. I think it's got a greenhouse
- 14:48Speaker 4: or something on it now and my client's objected to that.
- 14:53Speaker 4: And and the connection though, circling back when I started
- 14:57Speaker 4: researching what's been going on with this property, the Carry
- 15:02Speaker 4: Foundation had loaned Vandelia LLC, which had Speaker Henshaw as
- 15:09Speaker 4: an officer and other I would say politically connected people.
- 15:15Speaker 4: I think it was like four million dollars. And it
- 15:20Speaker 4: was odd because it was loan the deed of trust
- 15:23Speaker 4: the mortgage on that property for that loan from the
- 15:25Speaker 4: Carry Foundation, which is break Harry, which is who we
- 15:28Speaker 4: were just referencing, who was at the time that loan
- 15:32Speaker 4: was made, quote senior advisor to Governor Justice. And now all
- 15:38Speaker 4: of a sudden, that company is the way I see
- 15:40Speaker 4: it there in essence getting their road built on the
- 15:44Speaker 4: taxpayer's back because they've got to pay our pay for
- 15:47Speaker 4: our land, my client's land, which they don't want to
- 15:50Speaker 4: have taken, so they're fighting it. They paying an outside
- 15:52Speaker 4: law firm, and then they're going to do all this
- 15:53Speaker 4: construction to help this one politically connected company, Vandelia LLC
- 16:02Speaker 4: or whatever it's called. There's other Vendelia companies, but I
- 16:07Speaker 4: thought that was interesting because if you remember what I
- 16:09Speaker 4: said earlier, they that company, like any other company, had
- 16:13Speaker 4: already negotiated a right away industrial right away they could
- 16:19Speaker 4: construct right to the public way, which has never happened
- 16:22Speaker 4: now some seven eight years later. But instead the Department
- 16:28Speaker 4: of Highways is going to expand this rural road just
- 16:32Speaker 4: to serve that company. To break Harry while his company,
- 16:37Speaker 4: at least while he was senior advisor to the Governor's office,
- 16:43Speaker 4: loan this company four million dollars.
- 16:45Speaker 6: So this company could have put in their own road right.
- 16:49Speaker 4: It was negotiated into the deal apparently because it's there's
- 16:53Speaker 4: a map, and it's in the deed where they got
- 16:55Speaker 4: the properties, saying not only do we need you forty eight,
- 17:00Speaker 4: we deed you the right to put an easement in
- 17:04Speaker 4: here right of way. And it was really wide, and
- 17:07Speaker 4: if I recall correctly, even had some shared costs to it.
- 17:11Speaker 4: Needed to cross the railroad tracks, which of course is
- 17:14Speaker 4: always a little bit of a hurdle but can be overcome.
- 17:17Speaker 5: And not in your clients frontyard.
- 17:19Speaker 4: That's right going down the road. Yes, I mean it
- 17:22Speaker 4: would have been a road. It was essentially going across
- 17:24Speaker 4: a field to get to this company's property. And I've
- 17:30Speaker 4: done a decent amount of condemnation cases and have some
- 17:33Speaker 4: going on right now. But ordinarily, and we're feeling a
- 17:37Speaker 4: little bit in Putnam County right now because we have
- 17:39Speaker 4: another attempt to expand Tays Valley Road in Scott Depot
- 17:43Speaker 4: with multiple roundabouts and I designed it I think is
- 17:48Speaker 4: out of character for that area and it could have
- 17:49Speaker 4: an alternate design. There's been a lot of public comment
- 17:52Speaker 4: on it. We'll see where that goes. But generally, in
- 17:55Speaker 4: these condemnation cases, as much as my clients don't like it,
- 17:57Speaker 4: especially when they've had family owned property, like folks here
- 18:00Speaker 4: for decades and it's going to affect where they live
- 18:04Speaker 4: and they're going to see this construction and this increased
- 18:07Speaker 4: most likely truck traffic on a daily basis and noise.
- 18:13Speaker 4: It's very difficult though, to argue that Department of Highways
- 18:17Speaker 4: doesn't have the right to come in and take the
- 18:19Speaker 4: property because if it's a public need, generally the location
- 18:24Speaker 4: of the road and the design is mostly at the
- 18:26Speaker 4: discretion of DOH. So in my career I've never been
- 18:31Speaker 4: successful and I really haven't argued it because it's you
- 18:34Speaker 4: don't find a set of facts that works where you
- 18:36Speaker 4: can kind of convince the doh or force them to
- 18:39Speaker 4: take a different route, for example, that won't affect your
- 18:43Speaker 4: family's property. But in this particular case, because of the
- 18:49Speaker 4: government government connections and the fact that it didn't seem
- 18:52Speaker 4: to me that it was a public need or for
- 18:54Speaker 4: the public good, because this private company that apparently has
- 18:58Speaker 4: significant funds and as I read it currently as out
- 19:03Speaker 4: of state investors like venture capitalist firm that's kind of
- 19:06Speaker 4: promoting this why is there a public need to expand
- 19:12Speaker 4: this road, spend tax payer money and upset some solid
- 19:18Speaker 4: citizens of West Virginia when this company has on paper
- 19:24Speaker 4: legally the right to build its own road and apparently
- 19:27Speaker 4: thought about it when it made the purchase of the property.
- 19:29Speaker 4: And so we did fight their ability to come in
- 19:32Speaker 4: deas's ability to come in and take in this particular case,
- 19:35Speaker 4: it's a high standard and difficult, and unfortunately last summer
- 19:39Speaker 4: there's a different judge now in the case, but at
- 19:41Speaker 4: least last summer the court in Putnam County let the
- 19:46Speaker 4: project carry forward and denied our motion to stop them
- 19:51Speaker 4: from using tax payer money to take my client's property.
- 19:56Speaker 4: It's still pending and we still have the potential for appeal,
- 19:59Speaker 4: but it's basically you've got to prove that it was
- 20:02Speaker 4: an arbitrary decision, and I thought we had enough evidence
- 20:07Speaker 4: to proceed with that argument into what they call discovery,
- 20:09Speaker 4: where we can make them produce documents about this maybe
- 20:14Speaker 4: take depositions about this project. But at least last summer
- 20:19Speaker 4: the court shut us down. We have not been able
- 20:21Speaker 4: to do that. But if Brad's out there listening wants
- 20:24Speaker 4: any documents from that case, I'll be glad to send
- 20:26Speaker 4: them to him. But I thought that was interesting how
- 20:30Speaker 4: break Haery was making a point to notify Brad to
- 20:34Speaker 4: notify everyone about his conflict of interest when I have
- 20:37Speaker 4: a case where he and or his company is some
- 20:41Speaker 4: kind of investor in a company that then, while he's
- 20:45Speaker 4: senior advisor to the governor's office, has somehow I got
- 20:51Speaker 4: in doh to spend I don't know how much to
- 20:55Speaker 4: expand a road that will essentially, as I see it,
- 21:00Speaker 4: only really served this private for profit company that seems
- 21:05Speaker 4: to be operated by out of state interests. And so
- 21:09Speaker 4: I just thought that was not ironic when I read
- 21:11Speaker 4: it this morning and thought about my case, which hasn't
- 21:15Speaker 4: just maybe not newsworthy because it's such a small portions
- 21:20Speaker 4: of land, But you know what, if it's important to
- 21:24Speaker 4: our clients, it's important to us. And so we're we're
- 21:27Speaker 4: we're still fighting that one. And of course no, the
- 21:29Speaker 4: project hasn't gone on. They they at this point it
- 21:33Speaker 4: appears the survey was in the wrong place by d
- 21:35Speaker 4: O H with our contractors. Now everything's stalled again, but uh,
- 21:40Speaker 4: but an interesting uh scenario. We're not done fighting it.
- 21:44Speaker 4: But uh, it was just when I when I heard
- 21:48Speaker 4: Patrick Governor Morrissey talking this week, I thought, well, maybe
- 21:51Speaker 4: he'll take another look at this project because this seems
- 21:53Speaker 4: to be a waste of taxpayer money when you have
- 21:59Speaker 4: a well funded private venture firm that has a right
- 22:05Speaker 4: to build their own road not doing it and having
- 22:08Speaker 4: the taxpayers build it for them. So I thought that
- 22:11Speaker 4: was interesting, and maybe Governor Morris's office will if he's
- 22:16Speaker 4: reviewing some of the projects that are pending, because it
- 22:18Speaker 4: really hasn't been anything but a survey done and maybe
- 22:21Speaker 4: a waterline moved at this point, because it's moving at
- 22:23Speaker 4: a snail's pace and they've got to change the location
- 22:27Speaker 4: now the property they want to take and file a
- 22:28Speaker 4: new petition, but maybe Governor morrises also take a look
- 22:31Speaker 4: at that. They just stopped that project right now. We
- 22:34Speaker 4: could stop the bleeding of taxpayer dollars and just move
- 22:37Speaker 4: on and have this company deal with the current road
- 22:39Speaker 4: we have or build their own road, which is what
- 22:41Speaker 4: they apparently plan to do it to do it at
- 22:44Speaker 4: one time. But I didn't. I didn't get to dig
- 22:46Speaker 4: into those you know, it just looks suspicious, I would say,
- 22:50Speaker 4: And I thought we had enough what they'd call kind
- 22:52Speaker 4: of prime e facia evidence evidence you get from your
- 22:56Speaker 4: non litigation investigation to allow us to dig in to
- 23:00Speaker 4: it further in the court wouldn't let us do that,
- 23:05Speaker 4: which was disappointing, but but kind of dovetail nicely into
- 23:09Speaker 4: Patrick Morrissey's talk and then in Brad's story this morning.
- 23:13Speaker 4: So we'll see what happens with the w Board of
- 23:15Speaker 4: Governors tomorrow when you take a break. Yeah, okay, we're
- 23:20Speaker 4: gonna do that. We gonna take a break and come
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- 26:19Speaker 4: They may we'll get some calls. And I listened to
- 26:20Speaker 4: Dad Show last week. I think he got a lot
- 26:23Speaker 4: of coin a lot. Always likes to point that out
- 26:25Speaker 4: when it gets talked to me the next time. But no,
- 26:28Speaker 4: just kind of a somber point prior to hit on,
- 26:31Speaker 4: you know, I just want to mention I didn't know
- 26:34Speaker 4: him personally really other than maybe saying hi from time
- 26:39Speaker 4: to time because we're in some of the same circles.
- 26:42Speaker 4: But I just really want to send our everybody at
- 26:45Speaker 4: the Peyton Law Firms condolences for the scaff family. Just
- 26:48Speaker 4: that's terrible. Now. Dad is has been friends with Doug
- 26:53Speaker 4: scaff I guess senior, the Doug Staff that passed, you know,
- 26:57Speaker 4: his father for like fifty years, and it's pretty up
- 27:00Speaker 4: said about it. And you know, Doug was my age exactly.
- 27:03Speaker 4: So it's a terrible, terrible tragedy there. And I do
- 27:08Speaker 4: have friends that are really good we're really good friends
- 27:11Speaker 4: with Dog, so our hearts go out to them as well.
- 27:14Speaker 4: It's just it's always unfortunate when somebody passes away when
- 27:18Speaker 4: you're forty eight years old and have a family or
- 27:20Speaker 4: still raising me and it's really going to be difficult
- 27:23Speaker 4: on the family. So we just you know, we send
- 27:25Speaker 4: our condolences there. I know what folks talked to yesterday
- 27:28Speaker 4: or maybe on the radio that had real personal relationships
- 27:31Speaker 4: with with Doug and he was I know him because
- 27:36Speaker 4: just reading about what he does and he's a real
- 27:38Speaker 4: pillar of the community and one of those people that
- 27:41Speaker 4: it's kind of a mover and shaker and keeps us,
- 27:43Speaker 4: keeps us going around here. And then of course he
- 27:45Speaker 4: was on the legislature and I thought he really brought
- 27:48Speaker 4: a some common sense or some sense at all at
- 27:51Speaker 4: times when I thought we didn't have much up there.
- 27:55Speaker 4: They remember we had the weird thing where he was
- 27:57Speaker 4: pulling a UH campaign signs out down near Danville and
- 28:02Speaker 4: got bit by at the Copperheads Snakes, which was just bizarre,
- 28:06Speaker 4: UH but just really sad, unfortunate accident. I don't know,
- 28:10Speaker 4: only lose information matter. It'll come out and the end
- 28:17Speaker 4: what what happened, But it doesn't really matter. But just
- 28:20Speaker 4: wanted to say that before we get talking about smother things.
- 28:23Speaker 4: But but Peyton lawfer so what do we do other
- 28:27Speaker 4: than condemnation cases like we talked about earlier, We UH
- 28:31Speaker 4: mostly do civil litigations. So if you've been hurt, injured physically,
- 28:36Speaker 4: financially then or have an insurance claim. You're fighting. That's
- 28:39Speaker 4: kind of our bread and butter. Hey, we got a
- 28:41Speaker 4: call first.
- 28:42Speaker 6: Okay, it's going to go to our call that's called
- 28:44Speaker 6: in for Tom this morning caller. What's your first name?
- 28:47Speaker 9: Ken?
- 28:47Speaker 5: Go ahead, Jim, what's your what's your question?
- 28:50Speaker 9: No, it's.
- 28:52Speaker 5: Okay, I apologize for that.
- 28:54Speaker 6: Go ahead.
- 28:54Speaker 5: What's your question for Tom?
- 28:55Speaker 9: Yeah? Hey, Tom. You know, we have a lot of
- 29:00Speaker 9: and cars that had held damage down here in Day's Valley,
- 29:06Speaker 9: and we had an estimate. My wife took her car
- 29:11Speaker 9: and got an estimate at one body shop I won't
- 29:14Speaker 9: mention names. It was eighteen hundred dollars. And then I
- 29:19Speaker 9: took the car to another body shop that was one
- 29:24Speaker 9: of their preferred body shops, and that estimate was eighty
- 29:28Speaker 9: one hundred dollars. So I contacted the agent, but I
- 29:35Speaker 9: hadn't heard anything back from them. I first thought that
- 29:39Speaker 9: the eighteen hundred dollars estimate was a mistake, should have
- 29:43Speaker 9: been eighty one hundred dollars, because the other one was
- 29:46Speaker 9: eighty one hundred dollars. And so anyway, the insurance company
- 29:52Speaker 9: had already sent me a check. They jumped on that
- 29:55Speaker 9: with both feet to send up the eighteen hundred. But
- 29:58Speaker 9: when I got the other estimates, starts looking at it,
- 30:00Speaker 9: going over with the estimators and stuff. He showed me
- 30:03Speaker 9: things that when I went back and compared the two,
- 30:07Speaker 9: that they weren't included on the other.
- 30:10Speaker 4: Right, Okay, so it wasn't comparing apples to apples. It
- 30:12Speaker 4: was a little bit different. I mean there was different.
- 30:14Speaker 9: Works, not even close. Yeah, so what would you recommend?
- 30:22Speaker 4: Yeah, so generally or pretty much always on And this
- 30:26Speaker 4: is like a what they call a first party insurance
- 30:28Speaker 4: claim because it's his own insurance company. Like I live
- 30:33Speaker 4: in tes Guys on the way home and my Tesla
- 30:36Speaker 4: was damaged and so U And if you just decided that,
- 30:40Speaker 4: if you go through tas value meators, even it's been
- 30:42Speaker 4: what a couple of months or something, you'll see four
- 30:45Speaker 4: or five tenths put up along Taes Valley Road hail
- 30:48Speaker 4: damage repairs. These these vans had come in from out
- 30:51Speaker 4: of state and just set up like temporary shops to
- 30:53Speaker 4: get them done. So I assume they're doing things cheaper
- 30:56Speaker 4: or guaranteeing they'll do it for they won't charge any
- 31:00Speaker 4: more than what your insurance paid you, or something like that.
- 31:02Speaker 4: Even even minusure deductible. But I had my agent. My
- 31:09Speaker 4: adjuster came in, actually was a fella from Texas, and
- 31:12Speaker 4: he came in for weeks and was just doing this
- 31:14Speaker 4: over and over again here locally. But I had them
- 31:16Speaker 4: give me an estimate, you know, because the adjuster can
- 31:19Speaker 4: do use a computer program that has labor units and
- 31:22Speaker 4: material costs, and shot them cut me a check and said,
- 31:25Speaker 4: I'll take care of my repair. Now. In your situation,
- 31:29Speaker 4: you when you got let's say you got the eighteen
- 31:31Speaker 4: hundred dollars check that you don't sign a release for that.
- 31:34Speaker 4: You don't sign any document that says this is my
- 31:37Speaker 4: full and final settlement for this claim. So normally, like
- 31:42Speaker 4: you should be able to go back to your automobile
- 31:45Speaker 4: ensure and show them the eighty one hundred dollars estimate,
- 31:52Speaker 4: and really they ought to pay that if it includes
- 31:55Speaker 4: work that was overlooked in the in the first estimate.
- 31:59Speaker 4: And so you know they can't, you said preferred provider,
- 32:03Speaker 4: for example, that insurance company can't make you use a
- 32:06Speaker 4: particular repair shop. And if you want to go out
- 32:08Speaker 4: and get an estimate, you can get it yourself, send
- 32:12Speaker 4: it to your auto insurer. Then you know they analyze it,
- 32:14Speaker 4: make sure it's not fraud, it's within the realm of
- 32:17Speaker 4: reason for that type of repair, and then generally they'll
- 32:20Speaker 4: just pay it. I mine's a good example. I had
- 32:23Speaker 4: the guy that came into mind you. They itemized your
- 32:25Speaker 4: I had hail damage on the body of my car,
- 32:27Speaker 4: but my Tesla has one piece of glass on the roof,
- 32:31Speaker 4: and so when they gave me the estimate for my
- 32:34Speaker 4: total repair from the adjuster, I thought, well, that's low,
- 32:37Speaker 4: I think. So you know, you can see itemized on
- 32:40Speaker 4: there the glass or replacement for my roof. It's spiderwebed
- 32:44Speaker 4: on my roof, and and so I could see what
- 32:48Speaker 4: he attributed as far as labor and materials for that,
- 32:51Speaker 4: and it actually had a deduct It's like minus forty
- 32:54Speaker 4: two percent on the cost. So I called emailed through
- 32:57Speaker 4: their chat system or whatever, and well, why is there
- 33:00Speaker 4: a minus forty two percent from the National Glass Association estimates. Well,
- 33:03Speaker 4: that's just what we do for your region. So I
- 33:06Speaker 4: don't know if it's some kind of cost of living
- 33:08Speaker 4: adjustment or something. But the problem I had is I
- 33:11Speaker 4: called your local glass vendors, like safe Light or whatever.
- 33:15Speaker 4: There's five or six here locally, and none of them
- 33:19Speaker 4: in West Virginia were equipped to do a Tesla roof
- 33:23Speaker 4: glass repair. So I had to go to Tesla, yeah,
- 33:26Speaker 4: in Columbus or I had to you know, everything's electronic
- 33:29Speaker 4: with Tesla, email in and get your but they spit
- 33:32Speaker 4: out an estimate. Of course, I still haven't got my
- 33:34Speaker 4: car upare because I had to drive it up there
- 33:35Speaker 4: actually next Friday. But that estimate from Tesla just for
- 33:40Speaker 4: the glass was let's say hundreds of maybe one thousand
- 33:44Speaker 4: dollars more than what my insurance company had allotted for that.
- 33:47Speaker 4: So I messaged with them and they said, yet, just
- 33:49Speaker 4: upload the new estimate, and I did. And this is
- 33:54Speaker 4: my insurance cam company is one of the largest casual
- 33:57Speaker 4: insurers in the world. It doesn't have anything to do
- 34:01Speaker 4: with a farm anymore. But see where I'm going. So
- 34:05Speaker 4: now I haven't heard back from them in like a month,
- 34:06Speaker 4: but they're going to pay me the difference between what
- 34:09Speaker 4: they said it would cost and now my actual costs.
- 34:12Speaker 4: And you can always get your you know, I always
- 34:15Speaker 4: feel like if you get the repair done and it
- 34:17Speaker 4: costs extra, why your car's there? Normally your your your
- 34:21Speaker 4: body shop or your mechanic shop will make a call
- 34:23Speaker 4: for you to the insurance company and make sure they
- 34:25Speaker 4: get can get paid the difference because you might have
- 34:28Speaker 4: taken a check for X, so now get the new
- 34:31Speaker 4: information to them. If they won't respond, If your insurance
- 34:34Speaker 4: company won't respond at all, file complaint with the Western
- 34:37Speaker 4: Insurance Commissioner's Office because you can do it online and
- 34:39Speaker 4: they're very good at the Insurance Commission's Office about getting
- 34:42Speaker 4: insurance company to communicate. Doesn't mean they're going to agree
- 34:45Speaker 4: with you, but at least communicate now. If you get
- 34:48Speaker 4: beyond that and your insurance company will not agree to
- 34:51Speaker 4: pay what it will actually cost you to get that
- 34:55Speaker 4: damage repaired, then you might pop us an email because
- 34:57Speaker 4: we can help with those type claims if you want
- 35:00Speaker 4: to pursue it. Obviously, you know, for example, if it's
- 35:03Speaker 4: a two thousand dollars difference or even three thousand dollars
- 35:06Speaker 4: difference and we got to get engage it and spend
- 35:10Speaker 4: significant lawyer time on it, doesn't make any sense for
- 35:12Speaker 4: us to handle out on one third. First of all,
- 35:14Speaker 4: you wouldn't get enough to get your car fixed, and
- 35:17Speaker 4: we'd be working for pennies on the dollar. But the
- 35:19Speaker 4: good thing in West Virginia in most states, I believe
- 35:23Speaker 4: is if you have to hire a lawyer to fight
- 35:25Speaker 4: your own insurance company because of a denied claim and
- 35:28Speaker 4: you prevail, they've got to pay your lawyer's fees on
- 35:31Speaker 4: top of your damages. So it does give you an
- 35:34Speaker 4: avenue on these smaller property damaged claims to hire a
- 35:37Speaker 4: lawyer and never go out of pocket. And sometimes you
- 35:41Speaker 4: can get some other damages too, So it usually works
- 35:43Speaker 4: out as long as that eighty one hundred dollars estimates,
- 35:47Speaker 4: you know, not something the way out in left field
- 35:50Speaker 4: on it. You know you can't, and then of course
- 35:52Speaker 4: you got your value your car. It could be totaled
- 35:54Speaker 4: at some point if your estimate goes up too high,
- 35:57Speaker 4: if the estimate is seventy percent of the re accident value.
- 36:01Speaker 4: But yeah, interesting scenario. Yeah, it's all kinds of repairs
- 36:04Speaker 4: still being done there in Tay's Valley.
- 36:07Speaker 5: I was in it.
- 36:08Speaker 4: I was actually driving Dad's car at the time. My
- 36:10Speaker 4: wife was driving the Tesla, and unfortunately Dad's car was
- 36:14Speaker 4: pretty well destroyed as well. He's driving a rental right
- 36:16Speaker 4: now while his gets repaired.
- 36:19Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, it was really nasty. It's
- 36:22Speaker 9: a large tale I've ever seen in my life. Yeah,
- 36:25Speaker 9: but one one other thing too. Uh. On our home,
- 36:30Speaker 9: we had some light fixtures, external light fixtures that were damaged,
- 36:35Speaker 9: and for whatever reason, the guy that came out, he
- 36:38Speaker 9: didn't he didn't stop and talk to me after he's
- 36:41Speaker 9: done it. And so when they sent the estimate, he
- 36:44Speaker 9: only he only paid to replace one light. And so
- 36:50Speaker 9: I've gotten mixed reviews from people that I've talked to
- 36:54Speaker 9: with regard to the lights. So far, I've not had
- 36:57Speaker 9: any luck with match that light, and so I've heard
- 37:02Speaker 9: there's different laws pertained to like mix and match that
- 37:06Speaker 9: type of thing.
- 37:07Speaker 4: Yeah, that all depends on each situation. And then get
- 37:09Speaker 4: a lot of that with siding too, like do they
- 37:11Speaker 4: have to match the siding? Is it possible? And then
- 37:13Speaker 4: you get a patchwork siding on your house. But uh, yeah,
- 37:18Speaker 4: explore maybe trying to address that with them a little more.
- 37:21Speaker 4: And if you run into a roadblock, just let me know.
- 37:24Speaker 4: We'll run a little short in time on the show.
- 37:25Speaker 4: So we got to got to run here. But yeah,
- 37:27Speaker 4: feel free to fall off with me on an email
- 37:29Speaker 4: or something. I'd be glad to give us some informal information.
- 37:32Speaker 4: It may not be something you need to hire us for.
- 37:33Speaker 4: But if it comes to a sticking point, those are
- 37:35Speaker 4: the type of claims that we can handle. Otherwise you
- 37:37Speaker 4: shouldn't really, you know, a lawyer with your own insurance
- 37:39Speaker 4: company just to file the claim forms and things like that.
- 37:42Speaker 4: I got to do to the acting good faith, he
- 37:44Speaker 4: as opposed to if somebody else caused the problem and
- 37:46Speaker 4: you're dealing with their insurance company, then it's a little
- 37:48Speaker 4: more uh, you gotta be a little more careful.
- 37:51Speaker 5: You give them a call.
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