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- 0:01Hello, and welcome to HBr Talk to sixty two. How wrong can one
- 0:08journe will be? We all know the answer to that, I think,
- 0:11but it's still fun to ask. I'm your host, Hannah Wallen here with
- 0:16nonsense annihilator Lauren Brooks and the personification of perceptivity Mike Stevenson, and we're going
- 0:24to continue to wade through the sludge of feminist claims about how our criminal justice
- 0:29system handles sexual assault allegations. Unfortunately, Alison's not with us this week to
- 0:37continue the article, but I think that between the three of us will have
- 0:41plenty to say anyway, So there we go. But before we get into
- 0:45the article, we gotta do what we gotta do. As always, Honey
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- 1:53And we had we had our technical difficulties before the show started, so
- 1:59hopefully it's all good now. Um, it looks like a couple of things.
- 2:02It did change one stupid thing on me and I am going to fix
- 2:06that because it's going to drive me nuts. I am not selling subscriptions to
- 2:12this news source, so we're just going to move that up. Um,
- 2:17But this article is why is that not moving? There we go, we're
- 2:25doing the electronic slide. Ha ha, it's it doesn't burn as many calories
- 2:32as the electric slide. Sorry, guys, Um, but yeah, we're
- 2:38reading an article in a Dallas Morning News. Um, I can't imagine everybody
- 2:42in the world paying ninety nine cents a week for that anyway, Like,
- 2:46we're not all from Dallas. Maybe if we were, that would be that
- 2:49would be we're worthwhile endeavor. But in any case, there we go.
- 2:53You'll you'll need more shootings, like work on it, Dallas. No,
- 3:00no, no, no, no, kind of some kind of mass meta
- 3:04or whatever. Yeah, there we go. I'm I'm getting them all confused.
- 3:07Now there is more than I can keep track of these days. Yeah,
- 3:12keems insane, you know. I it's funny because we have all this
- 3:19um happening in the United States, where there's a lot of mass crime,
- 3:23there's a lot of mass violence, there's a lot of mass craziness, right,
- 3:28But when you start to look at it, it's always it traces back
- 3:32to oh god, no, you don't want to see me do the electric
- 3:37slide, Richard Bierre. I look ridiculous when I dance. But but yeah,
- 3:43it all ends up tracing back to things that the people who like to
- 3:46highlight it the most don't want to talk about, right, like circumstances that
- 3:52create a mentality that is okay with the commission of crime in in in the
- 3:58individual usually include things like being raised without a father, being raised in a
- 4:04household that's reliant on government assistance, being raised in a household where there is
- 4:13a significant amount of poverty, probably due to those uh, those circumstances.
- 4:19No, I'm not signing in Nag, nag, nag. How the heck
- 4:24do I get out of that? There we go, this this it wanted
- 4:29me to subscribe to. So we are actually looking at a web archive of
- 4:33the article, by the way. But yeah, all all of this,
- 4:38uh you know, boils down to um social ills that in order to solve
- 4:46them we would have to be able to criticize women's choices. And you know
- 4:50how much feminists love it when we criticize women's choices, Like that's just their
- 4:56favorite thing in the whole world. Right, yeah, So, and and
- 5:00this is which implies that women is some kind of collective Yeah, that has
- 5:05some kind of collective blame. And how dare you ha ha ha We we
- 5:12unfortunately are stuck with a collective lack of accountability. Um, and that that
- 5:17really destroys our ability to improve. Can't you can't get good if you can't
- 5:25be told when you're not good exactly exactly. And so I don't know if
- 5:31anybody like has picked up on this, but a lot of times when I
- 5:35refer to women, I kind of exclude myself from that category because I you
- 5:43know, I don't want to be lumped in with the rest of these people,
- 5:46Like I just don't feel like I belong to whatever this this group is
- 5:53that they're trying to mash together. That now any thing can identify as a
- 5:58woman, and that's what a woman is, and we're all just supposed to
- 6:01go along with it, I mean, above and beyond the attitudes that these
- 6:06women hold, like it just it's absurd to me. My brain doesn't work
- 6:13that way. You know. Women are just vindictive and nasty in ways that
- 6:20I could never think to be to another human. But but I'm supposed to
- 6:28relate to them on some kind of level because I share the same genitalia as
- 6:32them or chromosomes. I know, some women are not even women, So
- 6:41figure out how that works. The worst part for me, um, honestly,
- 6:46is if I'm I'm in a situation where I am trying to correct.
- 6:51You know, I've worked most of my life to try to correct some big
- 6:58mistakes and planning and stuff like that, and it's it's been something where I
- 7:04can look back and I can see, you know, there there are things
- 7:09that were harder for my husband, There were harder for my kids to deal
- 7:14with, harder for my parents to deal with because I made some decisions that
- 7:18were unwise right, or I was careless and didn't make decisions, you know,
- 7:25when I should have been more mindful of my actions, And there's a
- 7:32there's a level of you know, that's it's it's great to be able to
- 7:35see, you know, hindsight twenty twenty right and learned from it and do
- 7:40better as you go on. But at the same time, it's even better
- 7:46if you don't have to just rely on your own hindsight. You know,
- 7:50if somebody can come along and say, you know, hey, that was
- 7:53really dumb, maybe you should do this next time, or even if they
- 7:59have to be super nice about how they say it, which I don't think
- 8:01people should have to do. If you do something really dumb and other people
- 8:05get hurt because of it, you know, it should be perfectly acceptable to
- 8:09say, hey, that was really dumb and these people got hurt. Don't
- 8:11do it again, you know. But unfortunately you can't say that to women,
- 8:16right, So women are miserable, and women are miserable in ways that
- 8:22is unique to women because they can't look back at their actions and judge themselves,
- 8:28judge their you know, their wisdom, their morality, their ethics,
- 8:35and other people can't give them advice that involves holding them accountable for poor decision
- 8:41making, and if they do, the woman has this default glitch in the
- 8:50brain that comes back with that's misogynistic. I don't have to listen to it,
- 8:54and of course that means the same mistakes are going to happen over and
- 8:58over again. This is how you end up with women that have four children
- 9:01by four different daddies and sitting in the welfare office working out with the lady
- 9:09behind the desk how to maximize her collection from the government while still collecting enough
- 9:16child support from each baby daddy to you know, keep the state from going
- 9:22after her for not collecting child support, because the state does do that.
- 9:26And it's a sad situation because there she is, right doing as much work
- 9:33as an office worker, a professional office worker, to get a quarter of,
- 9:39maybe or less of what she could get if she was actually a professional
- 9:46if she actually made something of herself. And instead of earning it and getting
- 9:52paid to produce a service or or you know, create participate in the process
- 10:00of creating goods, she is stealing it from her fellow human being who worked
- 10:05for it and then had it taken away from them by the government. And
- 10:09she'll never do better because the state and the community bend over backward to accommodate
- 10:16her. And instead of hey, you know, that's really not good for
- 10:20you, your kids, your community, anybody. Really, how about we
- 10:24get out of that and do something better with your life that will give you
- 10:28a better financial circumstance and you can stop stealing from your neighbors, you know.
- 10:35Instead of that, she looks at Facebook and gets Happy Father's Day to
- 10:39all the single bombs out there who are doing both jobs. She's fucking not.
- 10:46Yeah, you know, And so I'm gonna go off a little bit
- 10:52right here. So you know, this is why I have no sympathy for
- 10:56these people, because they are victims of their own fucking circumstance, right,
- 11:01And this is what I was saying in the after show. I believe it
- 11:05was Tuesday, you know, how we were talking about how women are so
- 11:07depressed. Well, why are women depressed? I believe that it's because they
- 11:13have they have this sense of everything should be my way, because society has
- 11:22just paved this yellow brick road for women to just travel down. Oh do
- 11:28do do do do, and everything's happy and jolly. Right, everything's easy
- 11:31for them, So everything is expected. Why shouldn't they have a place to
- 11:37live? And someone else should pay for it, you know what I mean.
- 11:39It's it becomes this sense of yeah, I deserve it just for existing,
- 11:46and it's unrealistic. It is completely unrealistic, and it's unattainable for a
- 11:52person who has a mindset like that because you are always then waiting for someone
- 11:56else to feed you. And reality, honey, wake up. You gotta
- 12:03work someday for what you want, you know what I mean. You have
- 12:07to put the food in your own mouth. You can't rely on other people.
- 12:11And so these women go through life and they have these high expectations,
- 12:18these ridiculously high expectations of everything of everyone around them. Right, because it's
- 12:28just mine, it belongs to me. It's this is my domain, and
- 12:33you have no right to trespass on my domain. Right, this, this
- 12:37is and this is how they go through life. Yeah, and when they
- 12:41get disappointed when things don't go their way, it's like it's it's a downfall,
- 12:50you know what I mean. It's like they're it just things start to
- 12:54implode, and it's like, well, why doesn't this happen? And why
- 12:56why why don't I have this? You know what I mean? Why why
- 12:58don't I have the nice house and the and the nice cars like everybody else
- 13:03has. Well, it's because maybe you don't fucking do anything to get that.
- 13:07You expect it to come from somewhere else. Yeah, you know,
- 13:13they don't know how to twist in this situation and land on the feet.
- 13:16It's just it's not a sustainable way of living. Nope, you know,
- 13:22And so you're setting yourself up for your own downfall. And I gotta tell
- 13:28you, man, I'm seeing my my neighbor. She's she's getting older and
- 13:37she's still expecting for men to just pay her way, pay her entire her
- 13:43rent, her build. She Oh my, I don't want her to hear
- 13:48me. I hope she's not home, So I'm just gonna kind of clip
- 13:52it there. But it's it's unbelievable the level of entitlement that women feel that
- 13:58they have for just ex xisting, for just having a vagina and giving a
- 14:03man access to it. That means that she gets your wallet, she gets
- 14:07your time, your attention, your everything, and when she's done with you,
- 14:11she can just dispose of you as she sees fit. You know,
- 14:15the really sad thing is you don't even have to give anything. And this
- 14:18is and I've experienced us personally. This is like I had to when I
- 14:26when I lived up in Northwest Ohio, I used to work at a little
- 14:28camera store in Lima that doesn't exist anymore, and it was around the corner
- 14:35from my absolute favorite fast food place in the entire world. They keep me
- 14:39downtown in Lima, and and uh, I used to eat there every day.
- 14:45For like the first six weeks that I worked there, I ate there
- 14:46every day. And then I discovered that you cannot eat a cheeseburger every day
- 14:52and not have consequences. Actually double cheeseburger every day, and I have consequences.
- 15:00But I used to go there anyway. There's other things there and everything,
- 15:03and I liked to sit in there and work on I was working on
- 15:09some writing that I was doing. Had absolutely nothing to do with any of
- 15:13this who was way before this. But there was a guy in there I
- 15:18just, you know, started talking to an older man, you know,
- 15:20just who was chit chatting with everybody, you know, just like you know,
- 15:24the local guy and the local diner that gets to know the regulars at
- 15:28the diner and talks to everybody. So I'm talking to that guy right one
- 15:33day, it's just the two of us in there and other people haven't come
- 15:37to lunch yet, and he essentially offered to be my sugar daddy. And
- 15:43I'm like, Nope, I'm not even having that, not that relationship,
- 15:48not with anybody. That's not No. I do my thing. I earned
- 15:52my money, I pay my bills. I do not need or want some
- 15:56guy that I'm not even that involved with, you know, like that's to
- 16:02do that. And you know, I'm like, and I'm explaining to him.
- 16:04You know, I'm married, I'm getting you know, my shit together
- 16:08with my husband. I'm earning living, we're paying our bills. We're fine.
- 16:14You know. It's very kind of you to offer, but that's not
- 16:18the relationship I want to have with you. Like we chit chat. I
- 16:21like talking politics. It's fun to hang out and that's the limit. And
- 16:26it took my whole half hour lunch, you know about that conversation. Took
- 16:33my whole half hour lunch to get it established that. No, I wasn't
- 16:37going to change my mind on that, and no, I didn't think that
- 16:40was normal or a good relationship for people to have with each other. And
- 16:45no, I wasn't judging him for it, but he shouldn't expect that from
- 16:49me. And like it took like he wasn't asking me for sex, he
- 16:55wasn't asking me for pictures. He was just like, oh, this this,
- 16:59you know, cute young lady. I'll see if I can help her.
- 17:02And it's like it took me right back to this thing that happened when
- 17:11I was a really little kid, young enough to play with a rattle.
- 17:15And I still remember this, like I can see the thing I was trying
- 17:19to do. I can see my little hands doing it and everything. I
- 17:23had another toy that had a little red ball as part of the toy.
- 17:27It was a Christmas tree and the little red ball went on the top.
- 17:30And this rattle had a handle that was round, had a hole in it
- 17:36for you to get a hold of it. And I looked at the ball,
- 17:40and I looked at the hole in the rattle, and it looked like
- 17:42the ball would just fit inside, and so I was trying to get it
- 17:45in there, and my dad was watching me, and he figured out what
- 17:51I was trying to do and saw that it would work. But I was
- 17:55very frustrated, and I kept getting more and more frustrated. So he showed
- 18:00me he gave it. He had had me give it to him, and
- 18:03I and he put the ball in the hole of the rattle. And that's
- 18:08the only time in my life I ever threw a temper tantrum, like a
- 18:14real screaming kicking. I wanted to do it myself, and of course Dad
- 18:18immediately figured that out, took it apart, handed it back to me,
- 18:22and I went at it again with renewed enthusiasm because now I had seen that
- 18:26it could be done. So I was sure one hundred percent this can be
- 18:30done. But I had to do it. I couldn't have somebody do it
- 18:34for me. And that's been me all my life, and I've struggled through
- 18:38all kinds of things that other people tell me, Oh my gosh, I
- 18:44can't believe you managed that. I can't believe you did this. I can't
- 18:47believe you survived that, you know, and I mean things like, you
- 18:52know, if an infection that actually killed the other children that got it during
- 18:56that season that I had it struggling with asthma and not being able to breathe
- 19:03and running across country and stuff like that. Stubbornness is very useful. Right,
- 19:07I'm alive because I'm a stubborn ass. And I think taking that need
- 19:15for stubbornness and that do it yourself attitude and things like that away from women
- 19:22puts women in a situation where they're vulnerable to failure, specifically because they just
- 19:32don't try. Like the worst failure if you try your hardest and you fail.
- 19:40If you just try your absolute hardest and you fail, you at least
- 19:44have the satisfaction of whatever progress you made in that effort, and you don't
- 19:48feel as bad about failing after trying hard because you know what your limits are
- 19:56there, right. But if you don't even try and then later you discover
- 20:00that, well, gosh, it wasn't as hard as it looked. It
- 20:03wasn't as hard as it sounded. You could have done that, that's just
- 20:06a profoundly painful failure right there, because it just it just feels like it
- 20:11feels wimpy, and it feels there's a regret right things you never did,
- 20:17things you never tried. And I think that contributes a lot what we were
- 20:21what we were talking about last week and where I'm going to start with the
- 20:25article this week, because a big part of the complaint that this writer is
- 20:32making is that the justice system doesn't accommodate victims enough in terms of our trauma.
- 20:45When we report that. It bothers me that that um is blamed on,
- 20:53you know, the woman's inability to handle going through the process and having
- 21:00to provide detail and being asked for things that can be used as evidence in
- 21:08the case like if you were brutalized, you know, you want a medical
- 21:14record of that, if you if there was bodily contact and bodily fluids involved,
- 21:19you want the clothing that you had on during the assault, because it's
- 21:25going to be on there. There's gonna be DNA, there's gonna be hair,
- 21:27there's going to be you know, other things that that will help the
- 21:33police identify the individual or prove if you're naming an individual, prove whether that
- 21:38person was the person who committed the crime, and like, those things are
- 21:44important, right if you want to be able to go into a courtroom and
- 21:48be one hundred percent sure that you are serving the entire community, because the
- 21:52community is the plaintiff in a in a criminal case, you're you're going after
- 22:00the criminal on behalf of the community who's laws the criminal broke right, So
- 22:03you want to be able to prove that you're going after the right person and
- 22:07that the crime actually was committed. And those two things are essential because if
- 22:14you go after the wrong person, then in the community's name, you're falsely
- 22:18jailing someone. And if the crime was not committed, again in the community's
- 22:26name, you're falsely jailing someone, and it is a big risk. The
- 22:30FBI actually did a study on how many of their convictions were overturned when they
- 22:41went back and after DNA testing became useful in court. Reevaluated those cases using
- 22:49DNA testing where they had convicted someone based on comparisons of hair and other expert
- 22:57testimony on more subjective evidence, and it turns out, you know, you
- 23:04can you can match hair between people who have h you know, no relationship
- 23:11to each other at all. Their hair can look the same, and you
- 23:15can you can prove that somebody who wasn't there was there based on hair that
- 23:22isn't theirs but looks enough like theirs that the expert was fooled, and DNA
- 23:27comes along and proves that actually that's somebody else's hair. So it's very important
- 23:34that they're able to get that evidence because we don't want the wrong person jailed.
- 23:41We don't want somebody who didn't commit a crime jailed. And if there
- 23:45was a crime committed and you jail somebody who didn't commit it, that means
- 23:48the person who did commit it is still at large and now they're off the
- 23:52hook because you already jailed someone else for that crime. So you're not looking
- 23:56for the perpetrator, right, Um, But we're hearing in this article what
- 24:03we read last week reporting the crime. Can I just to follow up on
- 24:08a point that I think it was making like ten minutes ago. Yeah,
- 24:12Yeah, women shouldn't be treated like a like a homogeneous collective, but unfortunately
- 24:19they are treated that way by society at large and by the government in its
- 24:26entirety. Not not all women think the same as as you can discover from
- 24:30this show or nothing else, but they are treated the same legally by the
- 24:34powers to beat, and men are treated differently by those same powers to beat.
- 24:41And that's what we mean when we speak of women as a collective.
- 24:44There are a class of people as outlined by the government. Whether they approve
- 24:49of it or not, they are subjects to a set of laws that are
- 24:53different from the set of laws men face. It's it's much like the racial
- 24:59issue that there are little to no significant differences between the racist, especially not
- 25:06psychologically. I don't have a problem with white people. I don't have a
- 25:11problem with black people. I have a problem with people who have been brainwashed
- 25:15by racial Marxists, like the Grifts who call themselves BLM. That's that's a
- 25:21subset of white people, and a subset of black people, and a subset
- 25:23of other races. You know. You know, black people brainwashed by BLM
- 25:29think they're victims of society. White people brainwashed by BLM think they're the superior
- 25:34race of society. Both of these subsets of people are deluded idiots, and
- 25:40they're both dangerous, not because I've collectivized them, but because they've already been
- 25:45collectivized. It's the same with gender women. Women who have been brainwashed by
- 25:49feminism think they're victims. Men who have been brainwashed by feminism think they're I
- 25:56mean gods basically, albeit gods of guilt. Both of these subsets of people
- 26:02are deluded idiots. And that's that's that's why I speak of such collective entities
- 26:07as men and women and black and blacks and wise as and when it comes
- 26:11up in that context, because because we live in this nightmare of identity politics,
- 26:18where people think along the lines of their genes and their appearance, they
- 26:22absolutely shouldn't do that, but unfortunately they do. And we're here to tell
- 26:26you that you don't have to. And yes we're screaming into the well,
- 26:30but at least we're trying true, Yeah, exactly, And like that's the
- 26:34same way I feel about it. You know, we really should not be
- 26:40focusing on these the minute show. We should really be able to get past
- 26:44these things. But people are just so laser focused on the ridiculous things,
- 26:49the immutable characteristics of each of humanity that you know, we would have played
- 26:56tug of war with over who can be the most pressed, and it's just
- 27:00for what one of you is get to fall into the dirt the other one's
- 27:04sitting there hole in a rope. What does that get you? You know?
- 27:10And God, just the pandering of the left towards black people, like
- 27:18it's so it's so patronizing. Yeah, and I really wish that black people
- 27:26would wake up and realize that this is what's happening. You know. It's
- 27:30like, oh, every liberal you see that's oh black, Yes, black
- 27:34lives matter. They feel that you are in a position that's inferior to them
- 27:38just because of the color of their skin. That's racist in and of itself.
- 27:47But they don't see it. They don't see it that way. They
- 27:48see, Oh, this guy's he's out to help me, this must be
- 27:52my friend. No, it's not that way, you know. And if
- 27:57you really care about the people around you, you will try to wake them
- 28:02up to this ship. But some of them just can't shake them awake.
- 28:04And I don't know what to do with those people. It's it's rough to
- 28:11deal with. And the inconsistency is rough too, because you have and this
- 28:17is this is done with both the demographic women and the demographic black people.
- 28:23It's done with minorities in general. Um, they they treat and and women
- 28:30in particular like it's it's a bigger thing when they do it with women,
- 28:34because they divide minorities by gender, and even bigger do it with minority women.
- 28:41You know, So you have this duality with women, right. They
- 28:45treat us like we're made of glass. Anytime we would be in a situation
- 28:52if we were men, we would be expected to exercise some personal accountability,
- 28:57some toughness, uh, some resilience and and just you just suck it up
- 29:03and and do the thing that is difficult. You know, explain, um,
- 29:10what happened to you when it was really awful and you don't like thinking
- 29:15about it. Um, Okay, well yeah you could. It helps to
- 29:22remember that that's how therapy works. Right when you go to a talk therapist,
- 29:30the thing that they tell men they don't do enough of and women are
- 29:36better at it. Um. When you go to a talk therapist, you
- 29:38know what they do is they start digging into your past traumas, looking for
- 29:44causes for your current dysfunctions. And they might go all the way back to
- 29:49your early childhood. Um. You know, like like I tell the Rattle
- 29:55story to explain just how much of a stubborn ass I am. But you
- 30:02know there's other stories from my childhood that I only tell when they're really relevant
- 30:06to a situation, because they're not something that I like thinking about the rattle
- 30:11story, I don't mind thinking about that, Like, yeah, I threw
- 30:14a temper tantrum, but I was like less than two years old, so
- 30:18you know that's about the time you're expected to try that at least once.
- 30:22Right, But age age is a great modifier for certain situations, like say,
- 30:27if you are five years old and you lose your mother, it has
- 30:32a certain influence on you and a much different impact on you. Say,
- 30:37if you're in your twenties in your mom, right, you know, like
- 30:41it always is going to hurt when it happens, it's always, but you
- 30:45know it's when you're in your fifties. You kind of expect it to be
- 30:52coming at some point. When you're in your twenties, it's heartbreaking. And
- 30:59when you're a child, you've just lost essential support in your life. Yeah,
- 31:04major differences, right, and you have to deal with the idea of
- 31:10growing up, and because it's a part of you, becomes numb to it,
- 31:15right because it happened when you were so young, and you've just always
- 31:18grown up without your mom. There and do you know it again? That's
- 31:25why, like when age is such an important factor when it comes to like
- 31:30major life events when it happens to people, um, because it it just
- 31:36changes the whole flavor of the rest of your life, for lack of a
- 31:42term, well, in your process things differently as you get older, because
- 31:47tools. But what I wanted to get across with that was when you look
- 31:52at how women are treated, um, when it comes to therapy and telling
- 31:57a therapist every little thinking thing about their history. You know, Like I
- 32:04think if I went to a therapist, I'd probably have to dig in depth
- 32:08into the story of the time I got fish hooked in the mouth over a
- 32:13empty fago bottle that we wanted to collect water in to play sandcastle in the
- 32:19sandbox at the park with where we shouldn't have been playing because there was cat
- 32:22poop. But like that would have been a big deal, right, that's
- 32:28a funny story to me now. But those same people that would want me
- 32:35to go in depth into all that stuff, right and and talk about everything,
- 32:38every little thing that has me stressed in my life, we'll tell me
- 32:45that it's just too traumatic to do the same thing if the person I'm talking
- 32:51to as a police officer, and the process of that conversation can result in
- 32:57me having some recourse against somebody that I have reason to want recourse against that
- 33:06I I has been that has wronged me, and that that I have a
- 33:10good reason to want revenge, right, um or at least justice where you
- 33:17know, I can be heard and they can be heard and get to the
- 33:21get to the bottom of the matter and a decision is made on how to
- 33:25reform the individual and you know, how to penalize them for what they did.
- 33:30Like that, all of a sudden, it's too traumatic because now a
- 33:37police officer might do something to the person who hurt you. I think that's
- 33:42kind of stupid, But that's what we're told, right, We're told that
- 33:46reporting a sexual crime, a sexual assault can be traumatic. Like we read
- 33:51this last time. They have to go through this, uh saying exam,
- 33:54which there are exams that you have to go through in your life as a
- 34:00woman that are somewhat similar. Um. Yeah, like I don't know if
- 34:07they I don't know if they always use like all the same equipment, but
- 34:21uh women's exams and are are not comfortable. They're not They're not that much
- 34:28more uncomfortable, I think than the men's exams. But you know, women's
- 34:32exams are not comfortable, they're not fun, they're they're kind of a Some
- 34:37exams are a real pain in the ass, especially if you're going to a
- 34:39gastroenterologist. Right, Actually that that one's not as bad as it used to
- 34:45be. But what I what I mean is like you do this in your
- 34:50life on a regular basis, that the gyno visit is supposed to be an
- 34:55annual thing, right, and then you're supposed to get your boobs smack in
- 35:00a vice and X rayed like every five years or so, and more frequently
- 35:06if your family is prone to breast cancer. Like, these are things that
- 35:09are normal, right. And it might feel a little more traumatic for a
- 35:15lot of women after a sexual assault, but a medical a good medical staffer,
- 35:22can normalize that experience too. It's traumatic. It's traumatic for me because
- 35:30I'm now at the age where my doctor is telling me that they want they
- 35:35want to smash my boobs and stick a camera up my butt, and it
- 35:38just doesn't sound as fun it was in my twenties. Maybe, yeah,
- 35:45but exactly yeah, And it's all this all this stuff, it's I'm not
- 35:52gonna say that it's not traumatic to go through the process of documenting a sexual
- 36:00assault. It's but it's not prohibitively traumatic, right, because your goal,
- 36:07again is getting some recourse against the person who hurt you. This is it's
- 36:14like working to build something, working to create something. You're part of a
- 36:21project. The project is we're going to get that asshole. That's the project,
- 36:27and you're part of the project. Is whatever that asshole left behind on
- 36:32you, they want to discover it so that they can use it against them,
- 36:38Right, That's that's your part of the project. And if you're telling
- 36:43the truth about the experience that you are recounting to law enforcement and to hospital
- 36:50personnel, then you're you're basically your biggest fear is that they can't get enough
- 36:58right, they can't enough evidence to complete the project get that asshole. But
- 37:07if you're lying, then your biggest fear is going to be that they're going
- 37:09to find out you're lying. Right, That would be traumatic. It's not
- 37:14traumatic to go through that process to try as hard as you can and just
- 37:21miss the mark. Yeah, because you've done you know at least that you've
- 37:25done everything you can to get that asshole. And if that asshole gets away
- 37:31with it, they have a suspect for the next crime, and they have
- 37:37as much evidence as you could give them, and that may contribute to another
- 37:42case down the line, and you've done your part and that that actually is
- 37:46very therapeutic. But no, what do we get told women are made of
- 37:53glass when women have to be accountable for something women are made of glass.
- 38:00When when women have to be accountable for an action that should be taken,
- 38:07for undertaking that action themselves, we just you know, in fact, we
- 38:12might even be sugar glass gonna melt, get a shatter, you know,
- 38:19no, no toughness whatsoever. So you just can't just can't go to the
- 38:23hospital for treatment for your injuries and a rape kit and you know, evidence
- 38:30gathering to get that asshole, because it's just too much. It's just too
- 38:34traumatic. Right, But when the woman is the perpetrator, when the woman
- 38:37is the person who hurts someone, like when someone else is cut by that
- 38:43glass. Oh wait, no, no, women are not made of glass.
- 38:45They're made of marshmallows. Why are you afraid of marshmallows? What's wrong
- 38:50with you? Are you a marshmallowsogynist? No? I like mine toasted with
- 38:57some chocolate and some Graham crackers. That that sounds like alcohol facilitated facilitated moores
- 39:06um. But yeah like that that So that's this whole paragraph um about you
- 39:15know, victims reporting and what victims have to go through after reporting. That
- 39:20pisses me off because it discourages women from taking the steps needed for to hold
- 39:29accountable people who did them harm. And what did we learn about about rapists
- 39:35when we looked into h like the prevalence research and self reported perpetration, but
- 39:47that the overwhelming something like ninety five or ninety six percent of rape is committed
- 39:57by this tiny percentage, like somewhere four or six percent of perpetrators who are
- 40:04serial violent offenders in multiple ways, not just sexual violence, and just sexual
- 40:10violences included in the types of violence they engage in. So you have this
- 40:15phenomenon where we are telling as a society, we are telling women it's just
- 40:21too hard to hold the person who hurt you accountable. You would have to
- 40:25go through this terrible process of building a case against this asshole, telling your
- 40:31story and giving your complaint and collecting you know, the game pieces we're going
- 40:38to use to go after this person, and we're just going to let this,
- 40:45this person who has a high chance of being a serial perpetrator, get
- 40:50away with what they did to you and go after the next person. Brilliant.
- 40:58But well, since we did read that paragraph before, we'll go on
- 41:00to the I just I just had to make that point because that just I'm
- 41:06sure you guys can tell, like that just really sticks at my crawl like
- 41:09that, Just are we really that dumb as a society? And yes we
- 41:15are, yeah, and getting dumber by the day. Yeah, And so
- 41:22it goes on. Many police departments exacerbate this problem when they misunderstand the role
- 41:29that trauma plays in a victim's behavior. When investigators aren't trained and trauma informed
- 41:35practices, they might use interrogation tactics on victims, which only makes the process
- 41:39more traumatizing. What they're really saying here is they don't want police to vet
- 41:47allegations for validity or believability, credibility, anything like that. What do they
- 41:55think is going to happen when you get into court? Exactly exactly You're gonna
- 42:02be run up and down the ranger, ma'am. So get your story straight,
- 42:07and if you know, I understand, Look I understand all of this,
- 42:13right. But here's the thing. It's it's kind of like watch a
- 42:17lot of these bodycam videos and it's like, you know, they get pulled
- 42:22over for you know, duy or whatever or whatever like, and they just
- 42:28start fighting with the cops. It's like, WHOA, Well, I shouldn't
- 42:31have to. You're just making it worse for yourself. If you're really innocent,
- 42:38if if all you had was a blown out break light, just pull
- 42:43over and be kind of say and take the ticket. But these people,
- 42:45some people fight back, and I don't understand what that is. It's like
- 42:51it's like this this reaction, this negative reaction to authority or being told what
- 42:58to do. Um. But you know, in this instance, like if
- 43:06you're trying to report a trauma and you really want this person to get caught,
- 43:13then why wouldn't you just comply? Why wouldn't you just say listen,
- 43:17yes, this hurts, and you can cry all the tears you want,
- 43:22you know, but the ultimate goal is getting justice for yourself because you feel
- 43:28that you've been wrong. Yeah, the terms entitlement and fragility spring to mind.
- 43:36They only apply to the bad people. So what am I thinking?
- 43:39See the rough thing about it is, I think a lot of times we
- 43:44hear this advocated for by women who are not used to working for what they
- 43:49what they get in life like and that's the other thing. If you are
- 43:55never expected to earn any thing, you you develop well. It's the same
- 44:04as like if you're never expected to go and do anything, If you sit
- 44:10around your house all day, if you let yourself get out of shape,
- 44:15then when something comes along like oh shit, you gotta move, you actually
- 44:19have to like move to a new home. Now you have to gather up
- 44:23all your ship and put it in a truck and go and all of a
- 44:28sudden, that is hard work. Where you know, if you actually were
- 44:34used to getting up and moving around a lot all the time, lifting and
- 44:37carrying things all the time, it's still work, but it's not nearly as
- 44:42hard. And that that's it's that way with mental exercise. It's that way
- 44:49with psychological exercise. If you never do the heavy lifting, if you atrophy
- 44:57in your home, you know, or in your a little b bubble,
- 45:00your little plastic bubble, then when something comes along that you really can't get
- 45:05out of doing the work for it, that's you're screwed. You don't have
- 45:12the guts to go talk about your problem, you don't have the guts to
- 45:15work to build that case. And it does take away the experience of helping
- 45:22the authorities track down and you know, penalize the asshole that hurts you.
- 45:32So you basically lose out, and of course the community loses out because the
- 45:37asshole gets to go on and hurt somebody else too, exactly so, and
- 45:43that that's a really sad situation, and that that goes right back to you
- 45:46know, when when women are expected to take action, when accountability means something
- 45:52you have to do something about your situation. Women are made of glass.
- 45:57And of course the other end of it being that when accountability means that you
- 46:02have to take responsibility for having done something bad, women are made of marshmallows.
- 46:09It's it's it's the strangest thing, you know, those reflective, those
- 46:14damned reflective marshmallows. So it says many police departments exacerbate this problem when they
- 46:22misunderstand the role trauma plays in a victim's behavior. What they're really saying there
- 46:25is, don't expect women to be honest if they've been traumatized, which is
- 46:31bull trauma can do weird things to you, but it doesn't make you dishonest.
- 46:39It doesn't take away your ability to be to tell the truth and to
- 46:45stick with the truth, and to refrain from embellishing or changing details in order
- 46:52to protect yourself. Right. That's that's not how trauma works, certainly,
- 46:57not if it's a one off event. If it's it's a repeated pattern of
- 47:00abuse, then people can develop what's loosely called Stockholm syndrome. But that's I
- 47:07guess for terrorists. But a lot of a lot of victims of repeated abuse
- 47:14sort of are in that position in the first place, because they justify everything
- 47:20that happens to them. And by no means does this happen to women more
- 47:22than it happens to men. I would probably the other way around. Actually
- 47:28I would wage the other way around. But it's not trauma though, that
- 47:30makes that happen. That is more um Like a lot of times with men
- 47:36who are abused. You know, you marry someone or you move in with
- 47:40someone because you love them, right, you want to be with that person.
- 47:45And when when men fall in love, when men really get dedicated to
- 47:51a woman, they get these blinders. Um all of a sudden they fail
- 47:55to see any ugliness in her, and it's it's not necessarily all men are
- 48:05like that, and it's not necessarily you know that there's no point at which
- 48:08they're going to notice. But men put up with a lot of shit from
- 48:13women, and they're used to they're told by society that they have to first.
- 48:19Arters they do it all their lives. They grow where they grow up
- 48:23with the whole ladies first thing that you know, nobody tells them that more
- 48:29than ladies, right, yeah, but they get used to this idea that
- 48:34you know, you you subjugate your interests, you subvert your interests to make
- 48:40sure hers are taken care of first. Right, That's that's the norm.
- 48:45Men who are more aware of the current um legal situation are waking up to
- 48:52that and doing it less. But the gynocentric norm is still that. In
- 48:59general, as a demographic, men get abused by women all the time,
- 49:05and they put up with it because they're told they have to. So if
- 49:09a woman's abusive behavior is maybe a little bit more dramatic than the rest of
- 49:16the women who abuse, that man, to him, it's just a little
- 49:21bit more abuse. Well, you know, I love this woman, so
- 49:25it's okay if she abuses me more than the other women, right, And
- 49:30that's that's why I think a lot of guys do put up with that,
- 49:36and they may not even you know, if you think of a behavior as
- 49:38normal, then you're not gonna think of it as abuse, are you.
- 49:46Like back in the day when spanking was normal, most people would laugh at
- 49:52you if you call it abuse. I think we've gotten to the point where
- 49:57it's not just not the norm, but it's really abnormal now and most people
- 50:02would tell you you're going way overboard, it's not necessary, just you know,
- 50:07don't do it, and they would consider it abuse. It's like we've
- 50:14we've flipped on that, We've really moved the Overton window on that. Yeah.
- 50:17And then on the other hand, we have I think which we're leaning
- 50:22more towards, is is parents who don't know how to discipline their children at
- 50:28all, and they are just running rough shot over society now, right,
- 50:36and you know, what, what is anyone supposed to do? But hey,
- 50:40oh, that's say all right. You know, if until the child
- 50:45becomes of age, you can't really charge them with a legal crime. So
- 50:51I don't know, I don't you can you can there's there's juvenile detention.
- 50:55Actually, um, if I remember right, I've read a statistic somewhere,
- 51:00the United States incarceraates more children than any other country in the world. That's
- 51:05like, you can you can do awful things to children using the state,
- 51:09and the state can get away with it, and they basically enslave them so
- 51:14and and there and ninety five percent of the children. They do this too,
- 51:16our boys, and many of them have mental health conditions, and they
- 51:22actually use solitary confinement and juvenile detention too. I really don't see how we
- 51:29don't view this as a societal ill that needs to be taken care of,
- 51:36rather than oh, these are the wrong ones and let's just throw them away,
- 51:40lock them up, and that'll take care of that. No, there
- 51:45needs to be some real fucking reform in this society. There needs to be
- 51:50some real accountability held to the parents of these children. And I'm not I'm
- 51:55not saying just mothers, obviously, I think I do believe that it's mostly
- 52:01the mother's fault in many of these cases, not all, not all,
- 52:07but in them and the worst one is the single mother exactly and again again
- 52:15in the worst cases, this is absolutely a single mother, or it's a
- 52:20single mother with her new boyfriend and she's got a new kid by the new
- 52:24man of the week, exactly exactly. But but the police just don't understand
- 52:34that they have some underlying trauma. So you know, it's the police's fault,
- 52:42of course, that's what that that's why we can't accurately report these things.
- 52:45No, I think we can't accurately report these cases because a lot of
- 52:51people fucking lie. Yeah, you know, and it's it's it's the elephant
- 52:58in the room that nobody really wants to touch, right because it's it's just
- 53:02fucking blatantly obvious. And now I'm not saying that most of these people are
- 53:07lying when these things happen. Obviously that's not the case. But when it
- 53:14is the case, it needs to be pointed out, like it's the fucking
- 53:17elephant in the room. Well, it would have help if well, there
- 53:23are process crimes, right, we know about process crimes? Are people should
- 53:29know about process crimes due to the news cycle of the last four years in
- 53:34the United States, the last six years now in the United States, process
- 53:37crimes should be a subject that people are quite familiar with. Now, well,
- 53:43if somebody goes to the police and files a false complaint, that is
- 53:46a crime. If in the course of filing that false complaint, during the
- 53:52investigation process, after they've file that complaint, when the police start asking them
- 53:55questions about the details of the complaint, if they lie to the police during
- 54:04that investigation, that is another crime. And then if they push that lie
- 54:09through the prosecuting attorney's office and into a courtroom and they lie under oath,
- 54:15that's another crime. And if somebody does that right during one of these cases,
- 54:22it should be automatic if it's blatantly obvious that the allegation itself is a
- 54:28lie, and that details given in support of that allegation are lies because they
- 54:35are based on an initial lie, that you should have to prosecute for that.
- 54:39If you were prosecuting the person who was lied about the false allegation,
- 54:45victim now on behalf of society, and that victim, you should be prosecuting
- 54:52the false accuser. M absolutely. And again that's that's another answer to this
- 54:58question, why can't we prosecute sexual assault properly? Or why why are we
- 55:02so bad at prosecuting sexual assault? It's because we don't give a fuck when
- 55:09there are these false allegations made. It's just like, oh, whatever,
- 55:15you know, just oh, there's no punishment for people who lie about these
- 55:22things, So how has anyone to take it seriously? If you can just
- 55:28you know, do something like this and ruin a person's life. Yeah,
- 55:36hello, Brian Banks. And there's nothing that happens to these people, not
- 55:40all again again not all, not all, but when it happens, it's
- 55:47just a smack into in the face of the actual victims of crimes like this.
- 55:54Yeah, because you know the seven years in hell case I talked about
- 55:58before, and how the accus user added rape to her list of allegations,
- 56:02and then she changed her story like multiple times, like three or four times.
- 56:07She changed location, she could, changed the time, the date,
- 56:09everything about the story except who she was accusing, right, she it was
- 56:15provably false, like she could not find a time when he wasn't accountable accounted
- 56:22for because we were actually making sure that he could prove where he was and
- 56:28what he was doing all the time, so there was never going to be
- 56:31a time that he wasn't accounted for. By the time she got done changing
- 56:36her story, there was zero doubt left. There was zero room left for
- 56:39doubt. That she lied, she knew it didn't happen, and she said
- 56:44it happened anyway. Do you think there was any accountability at all? Of
- 56:50course not, of course not, none, of course not. And that's
- 56:54the other thing that these false allegations do is they soak up the court's time
- 57:00to actually take care of cases where real fucking assaults happen. And that's pisses
- 57:07me off more than anything else. Yeah. Right, you're sitting in the
- 57:12court lying and trying to use your fucking children as pawns against these people that
- 57:16you chose to have children with. But now you feel aggrieved in some sort
- 57:21of way. Again, this is why women are depressed, because they expect
- 57:25this fucking fairy tale life and it doesn't fucking work out, And so what
- 57:30do they do. They try to take revenge on everyone around them. This
- 57:35is why they're fucking depressed. This is why they can't handle life, because
- 57:39life is not the way you. Life does not read your fucking diary,
- 57:47okay, And the immortal words of Marvin the paranoid Android life don't talk to
- 57:54me about life. Somebody was saying on Twitter a little bit before the show
- 58:02that life sucks. And then you die. That's the natural order of things,
- 58:07right, The natural order of things is that life sucks and then you
- 58:10die unless you take action yourself to make your life better. That is,
- 58:17it is your job as a human being. That is what you're here to
- 58:21learn how to do, is to to achieve maybe not necessarily what many people
- 58:30think of happiness as like you know, woo happiness, but contentment, love,
- 58:35connection with other people, and success in an endeavor that contributes to the
- 58:40community where you live. Those are things that are That's what you're here for.
- 58:45And if you just let life suck instead and you never take action to
- 58:51reduce how much life sucks and make it better, you don't get to blame
- 58:55everybody else, you know, unless you're a woman, and then you do,
- 58:58unfortunately, And and that's why women's women don't improve their lives beyond life
- 59:06sucks. But honestly, women pathologize everything. I don't necessarily think women are
- 59:10more depressed than men on the scale that that surveys say. I think women
- 59:16claim to be suffering more than they are suffering exactly. Yeah, when women
- 59:22are more aggrieved, men have real reasons to want to end their lives right
- 59:30well, And and the thing is. Men will limp along and they'll be
- 59:37glad that they got to go to a baseball game, or they'll be glad
- 59:40that this person is in their life, or they'll be glad that they achieved
- 59:46this project at work, you know, and people are proud of them,
- 59:52and they're proud of themselves, you know. That's they'll be glad that they
- 59:58get time with their children, even if it's a little bit of time.
- 1:00:00They'll be glad for that amount of time before they start even thinking about how
- 1:00:06much it sucks to not have the rest of the time. And men are
- 1:00:10happier than women because of that. Even in miserable situations. Women make themselves
- 1:00:19more miserable, and then they spread that misery as much as they possibly can
- 1:00:24by bitching about it. And it's an unfortunate reality. And unless you grow
- 1:00:30up in a family where you are not permitted to do that, that is
- 1:00:36a behavior that children will do. But when you grow up and you're not
- 1:00:43permitted to do that, you grow out of it. And boys are not
- 1:00:47permitted to do that. Girls are unfortunately permitted to do that, and so
- 1:00:52many of them never grow out of it, whereas boys generally do. And
- 1:00:58you can always tell a guy that grew up in a family where he was
- 1:01:00permitted to do that because he'll behave so differently from the rest of the men
- 1:01:04around him that gets on everybody's nerves, right, Yes, And those are
- 1:01:08a lot of times. Those are the guys that engage in behaviors that people
- 1:01:13think or borderline. Not always. Sometimes it's because you know, they have
- 1:01:15a disorder that makes them clueless, or they've never been socialized around other people
- 1:01:21very well. But most of the time or there there. There's also like
- 1:01:25sociopaths will mimic that, and psychopaths will mimic that as best they can.
- 1:01:31But it is really it is something that gets trained out of boys as they
- 1:01:38are growing up, and I think there's more of a natural tendency to grow
- 1:01:43out of it in boys as well, But it doesn't get trained out of
- 1:01:45girls, and I don't think there's as much of a natural tendency to grow
- 1:01:50out of it if it's not trained out of them. And what you end
- 1:01:54up with then is the girl that will tell no one for twenty years that
- 1:02:01she felt wronged by this guy, and then when she does talk about it
- 1:02:06twenty years later, instead of talking about what really happened. She talks about
- 1:02:12it as though it's ten or twenty times bigger and batterer than it really was.
- 1:02:19On the subjective spanking, sorry, I'm late to the show again,
- 1:02:23but we don't worry about it. On the subject of spanking, we speak
- 1:02:28like it's a practice that's been stigmatized in the last few generations. But what's
- 1:02:35specifically been stigmatized is when fathers do it. It was it was only the
- 1:02:42generation before mine, namely the Boomers, when it was still normal for a
- 1:02:47for a father to spank a child, specifically a boy. I don't think
- 1:02:52it's ever been acceptable for a father to spanking is infant of but not long
- 1:02:57ago, it was even acceptable practice for ather to beat his son like with
- 1:03:01a belt or have you as and when he transgresses against his mother's wishes,
- 1:03:07and usually it's at the command of the mother in question. The only thing
- 1:03:10that's changed in the past few generations is that it's no longer okay for a
- 1:03:15father to lay a hand, let alone a belt on a child, even
- 1:03:21a son. That and the very idea of fathers has been stigmatized, And
- 1:03:25then we're left with this glut of singled mothers The idea of a mother clocking
- 1:03:32her son around the head is still fine, even even her daughter. Come
- 1:03:37to think of it, You'll notice it's not even called spanking when mothers do
- 1:03:40it. It's not called anything. For mother beats her son or daughter about
- 1:03:45the head with her hand or with whatever weapon is available, it's just called
- 1:03:51well, it's not called anything. It's called mothering. If anything, it's
- 1:03:53called well, I have to do this. I'm raising these children by myself,
- 1:03:59through no choice of my own. What else am I supposed to do?
- 1:04:02Allow the father to help in some way that's clearly not an option,
- 1:04:06is far more useful to me as a remote wallet. And so and so,
- 1:04:13children in this day and age don't grow up with the optional punishment of
- 1:04:18a father, a piste off father simply you know, growling at them or
- 1:04:26given them the stink eye, just just letting them know, very subtly,
- 1:04:30just how disappointed, which is a very effective parenting method, by the way,
- 1:04:36which children do understand, and it involves zero violence. And it's something
- 1:04:41that fathers have also done for generations, fathers that never laid a hand to
- 1:04:45their children because they didn't have to, because they were able to just give
- 1:04:48them that stink eye. But what we're what we're left with in this day
- 1:04:51and age, is the absolute normalization of women's single mothers just beating the ship
- 1:05:00out of their children. And then we wonder why children grow up to be
- 1:05:04violent, and why society in general is mysteriously becoming so much more violent.
- 1:05:12It's because, well, women would never be violent, especially not mothers.
- 1:05:15Women can't be violent. If we get men out of the family, they
- 1:05:20will become magically utterly non violent. If we get men out of society,
- 1:05:27then society will become magically nonviolent. Hasn't quite worked out that way, has
- 1:05:31it. You know, my dad had a philosophy on discipline. My parents
- 1:05:40both had like, very compatible philosophies on discipline, but my dad in particular
- 1:05:45had a very interesting one. You don't discipline by scaring the child. You
- 1:05:53discipline by demonstrating, you know, annoyance with the behavior by any and this
- 1:06:00you know as an educator, um, and as a male educator, you
- 1:06:05know, he always had to be careful putting his hands on kids. You
- 1:06:09can't just spank somebody's kid. Um. Now, during the early seventies in
- 1:06:15education, spanking was fairly normal, but as you got up into the eighties,
- 1:06:24it became you know, very much controversial, and in particular, they
- 1:06:30you know, they didn't they didn't allow the men to do it, because
- 1:06:34that was that was that was a false allegation danger right there, especially if
- 1:06:41the the girls didn't get paddled as often as boys did. To begin with,
- 1:06:45It's always been an unfair thing, but boy's behavior was treated more harshly.
- 1:06:49Always, as far as I know, um, at least during my
- 1:06:54entire school career, it was. But Dad didn't like doing any of that,
- 1:07:00you know. His idea was, you you sort of follow the rule
- 1:07:08from the cask of a monteado. I think I'm pronouncing that right. I
- 1:07:11don't. I don't not a big drinker, so I don't know if I'm
- 1:07:13pronouncing that right. But that was in the story. The main character gets
- 1:07:20revenge on someone who has wronged him by tricking him to come into his wine
- 1:07:28cellar to to try the cask of this great wine. But then he actually
- 1:07:33slowly walls him up behind a brick wall in there, and you know where
- 1:07:41he's He's never going to get caught for having committed this crime, but the
- 1:07:45person he's punishing knows that you know he's being punished, he knows what he's
- 1:07:51being punished for, and he knows he who's punishing him, and so there's
- 1:07:58no consequence for the punisher, just the punished. Well, you can't really
- 1:08:02say that about things like paddling detention, anything that puts the punisher in a
- 1:08:10position where they're at risk of again a false allegation or um at, you
- 1:08:15know, being forced to use their time. So my dad would do things
- 1:08:20like um instead of after school detention. The student would have to come and
- 1:08:26stop into his classroom for two minutes at the beginning of a lunch period.
- 1:08:31That just enough to make them last in line, not enough to take up
- 1:08:38a bunch of his time. And they knew they were being punished. They
- 1:08:43knew they were being what they were being punished for, right, they knew
- 1:08:46who was who was doing the punishing and everything, and they knew that not
- 1:08:51engaging that behavior again would avoid that punishment for that behavior, and that was
- 1:08:56that was good enough. If he had a student that he needed to explain
- 1:09:00why the behavior was wrong, then they'd have a talk. But that's not
- 1:09:03punishment, that's mentoring. Right. If you just have a student that you're
- 1:09:08handing a punishment down to that's how you handle it. Spanking is useless in
- 1:09:12that situation. I had a classmate that, like, you could have beaten
- 1:09:15the hell out of him, Like you could have left bruises, you could
- 1:09:17have left wellts, you could have burned him. Wouldn't have mattered. He
- 1:09:20wouldn't have had any reaction to that at all. But one day he was
- 1:09:28bullying me and I told him off, and I pulled out like every five
- 1:09:34dollar college word I could in the course of telling him off, which clearly
- 1:09:41demonstrated that my vocabulary was far more advanced than his, and it embarrassed him.
- 1:09:47He left me alone after that. He never bothered me again, never
- 1:09:50laid a finger on him. Wouldn't have won if I had. He weighed
- 1:09:57more more than me by as much as I weighed, I think just about.
- 1:10:03And there was there was, just you know, besides the fact that
- 1:10:06he was a dude and he was going to be stronger than me and faster
- 1:10:10than me anyway, right, But that I was. I was stronger and
- 1:10:13faster than him verbally, and that was the end of it. I won
- 1:10:16that fight without ever having to hit him. I never have to remember doing
- 1:10:20anything really mean to him. He was embarrassed momentarily, and there wasn't really
- 1:10:27enough people around for it. They're like, people weren't talking about it for
- 1:10:29weeks and weeks everybody forgot about it by the next day. But he didn't.
- 1:10:35He didn't do that again because he knew it. He wasn't going to
- 1:10:38win. He's never gonna win that fight. He would have had to put
- 1:10:42hands on me to win a fight with me, and he wasn't going to
- 1:10:44do that because every guy in the school would have looked down on him for
- 1:10:47it, you know. So like that's how you handle when when you're dealing
- 1:10:55with somebody like that, That's how you handle that kind of like either mentoring
- 1:10:58or punishment, Like all right, I will show that I am bigger and
- 1:11:01stronger than you in this way, and I will show that you will have
- 1:11:05a consequence, even even if it's not violent, And in fact, it
- 1:11:11makes a bigger difference, as he was nicer to other people too after that,
- 1:11:17and just like I was more careful about certain things after Mom made me
- 1:11:21pay for the neighbor's window that I broke when I climbed the walnut tree.
- 1:11:26I wasn't allowed to climb and knocked a walnut down and it ricocheted off branches
- 1:11:31and into this stupid window. Like it it ricorcheted off multiple branches and into
- 1:11:36the student was like God was directing this stupid walnut just so that I would
- 1:11:42get in trouble and learn that lesson. But in any case, yeah,
- 1:11:45that's that's that's how you handle like anything. But for a long time,
- 1:11:49yeah, spanking and violence were the norm, and in particular, women would
- 1:11:57use those punishments a lot, but they would make the dad do it.
- 1:12:01Wait till your father gets home. I'm not gonna actually have to remember doing
- 1:12:08this to you. But it's done. You're you know, you're still going
- 1:12:11to experience it. But my hands are clean because wait till your father gets
- 1:12:15home. I'm gonna nag him into doing it. Right now, it's just
- 1:12:20wait till the police get hit. I know. That's even worse because once
- 1:12:26upon a time, years ago, you used to be able to take a
- 1:12:31profoundly disturbed child through the legal system to get to psychological treatment that was actually
- 1:12:35effective. Now they just get abused. Yeah, but and that's sort of
- 1:12:45where we end up with the future perpetrators. Yeah, but going on,
- 1:12:51with this article. So we we did talk before about the claims about you
- 1:12:58know, police investigation, and then the other claim. We're going to revisit
- 1:13:01the other claim here we read before. The consensus among academic researchers seems to
- 1:13:09be that between two and ten percent of reports or false. But I want
- 1:13:15to remind everybody that is based on studies that were done using a standard that
- 1:13:24didn't allow any vetting of the reports for validity or for holes and flaws.
- 1:13:34So only if the only if the accuser recanted or the holes and flaws were
- 1:13:45so obvious that the detective didn't have to look for them, did they consider
- 1:13:50those reports to be false. No investigation, right, and they still found
- 1:13:58a higher personage of false reports then they are able to convict. So reports
- 1:14:09that can be confirmed, absolutely confirmed true are are much lower in number,
- 1:14:16right, But they don't like to count that as the entirety of true reports?
- 1:14:20Do they always like to say all the reports that are in doubt could
- 1:14:25be true? What do they say about false reports? It's important to note
- 1:14:30that every study she says I could find analyzing false reports relied on what percentage
- 1:14:38of reports were marked false by the police, not the number of people successfully
- 1:14:43prosecuted for filing false reports. So by saying that, this writer establishes that
- 1:14:47a report is only false if prosecution of the person who lied is successful.
- 1:14:57So if they're never prosecuted, the report can't be false based on that standard,
- 1:15:01right right, Which if we apply that standard to sexual violence, then
- 1:15:10the reports cannot be valid unless they're prosecuted either. So all reports that are
- 1:15:15not made to police, that are just made to surveys or to um shelter
- 1:15:23personnel, you know, and so on, like therapists and stuff, those
- 1:15:27are all not valid reports according to the standard they want to apply to false
- 1:15:31reports, which which says nothing of the completely unreported crimes which we can tell
- 1:15:38you definatively is it's just through the roof. How do you know that if
- 1:15:42they're not repositive? We just know. We just just just trust us.
- 1:15:45Just take my word for it, Okay. And what about what about the
- 1:15:48unreported cases of men and boys being that never happens exactly? So if we
- 1:15:59want to look at, um, how many how many reports are actually false?
- 1:16:06Um? I think we should consider some things like the f Like I
- 1:16:10said before, the FBI found that when they had relied on you know,
- 1:16:15hair matching and stuff like that. Twenty five percent of the convictions that they
- 1:16:21went back and investigated with DNA testing afterwards turned out to be false one in
- 1:16:27four. That's a pretty high level there um. That's not necessarily meaning that
- 1:16:34there was no crime, but that the allegation against the accused was false.
- 1:16:43The accused didn't commit the crime, so that that's that's pretty bad, right.
- 1:16:49And then you have Mcamara, I think was the one that was sixty
- 1:16:58five percent, and Canaan was that wast and some of those involved instances where
- 1:17:06the accuser didn't want to take a lie detector test so they recanted because they're
- 1:17:14afraid they would get caught lying. Feminists like to claim that that was because
- 1:17:19people don't trust lie detectors, but I think I think it's more because people
- 1:17:27were afraid that they would get caught lying. And then there are other other
- 1:17:32sources that have even higher rates, but I'm not sure of those studies.
- 1:17:40So if I were someone ones to ask me in the United States, what's
- 1:17:45the actual rate of false allegations, it could be as low as ten percent.
- 1:17:54I don't think it is. It could be as high as sixty five
- 1:17:58percent. Well, in India, there was a an evaluation done by the
- 1:18:04Hindi in Delhi on on rape allegations and they found a sixty five percent confirmed
- 1:18:15false rate, like out of the out of the shoot, sixty five percent
- 1:18:19of their allegations that they investigated were false, not in doubt, but definitely
- 1:18:29unquestionably false, where the woman was alleging rape based on her feelings in a
- 1:18:38situation, not based on the law. And then there's another twenty percent that
- 1:18:46was in question, so it could be as high as eighty five percent.
- 1:18:56Now in India, one of the contributing fact was it's not considered it's not
- 1:19:04legally considered rape to breach a promise to marry in India after you know you've
- 1:19:13had sex with your fiance. Like in the United States, we don't have
- 1:19:16that issue. Nobody thinks that that's rape. In India, there's a cultural
- 1:19:21belief that that's rape. And then the other thing is in India there's arranged
- 1:19:29marriage and there are circumstances where parents make rape allegations against men their daughters run
- 1:19:35away with instead of marrying who, mom and dad are telling them who who
- 1:19:41to marry. And that's not really a big factor in the United States either,
- 1:19:45so you don't have grown women running off with grown men and then that
- 1:19:49man being accused of rape by her parents because they don't want her to marry
- 1:19:54that guy, and they expect the police to stop the wedding. So those
- 1:20:00factors, you know, I would say, Um, sixty five is sixty
- 1:20:04five percent is probably a high number in the United States. Probably, I'm
- 1:20:10closer to believing that forty percent number. But it's very possible that sixty five
- 1:20:15percent is correct because it is, like I said, it's confirmed in India,
- 1:20:18and it's the low number in India. Like that's just it blows your
- 1:20:25mind when you think about it. How many people would would just flippantly falsely
- 1:20:30accused somebody of a serious crime in a in a country where that crime is
- 1:20:35even more harshly punished than it is here. But there you go. You
- 1:20:42know, when you're entitled, you're entitled. So when this individual talks about
- 1:20:48false allegations as a rarity, you know, it's important to note, um,
- 1:20:55what she says. Uh. Still, there's a persistent idea in American
- 1:20:58society that is common for women to lie about being raped. Well, it's
- 1:21:01possible that it is, and we can't trust research that minimizes that on the
- 1:21:10basis of not vetting the allegation for falsehood, it's very possible that it is.
- 1:21:16And until we have a study that digs into allegations and analyzes every detail,
- 1:21:24analyzes the evidence, and then comes back and says, well, a
- 1:21:28low percentage of these, very low percentage of these were confirmed false, and
- 1:21:32then there were was another percentage that that was in doubt, but we couldn't
- 1:21:36confirm true or false, and admits that there's a percentage that's confirmed false and
- 1:21:44a percentage that's unknown that might might be false. Also, uh, we
- 1:21:48aren't we aren't going to have a good statistic here for for for this issue.
- 1:21:57But but the writer goes on, false reports do happen, and when
- 1:22:00they do, they go viral. So that's that's another weasel statement a right.
- 1:22:12Imagine if we said, um, you know, rape happens and when
- 1:22:15it does, it goes viral, it implies that if a rape doesn't make
- 1:22:20the news, it didn't happen. If the crime isn't famous, it didn't
- 1:22:30happen. Right. If you're not the person that every newspaper in the country
- 1:22:36decided to use as the example to try to get due process compromised. Again,
- 1:22:45you didn't do anything wrong. I mean, rape reports go viral before
- 1:22:50they're even confirmed as true or false. We've we've been talking about stuff like
- 1:22:57this for fucking ten years now. There have been a number of famous cases,
- 1:23:02um, like like the duke lacrosse thing and the thing that was in
- 1:23:08Rolling Stone and the guy who got who has sex with a sleep woman in
- 1:23:18a dumpster whatever it was. Oh, you're talking about brock Turner. Yeah,
- 1:23:25loads of cases like that. They go, they go viral when they
- 1:23:28are assumed to be true rapes, and then they get buried when they are
- 1:23:32confirmed to be false, and then they get rewritten too, like the brock
- 1:23:38Turner story. Um, he wasn't convicted of rape. But today if you
- 1:23:44ask a feminist, she'll say he was convicted of rape and then he only
- 1:23:49got sentenced to three months in jail, which isn't true. He was convicted
- 1:23:54of sexual assault. He was not convicted of rape, and it is a
- 1:23:57state that has rape conviction. Um, he got sentenced to six months for
- 1:24:03the lower crime that he was. He wasn't even charged if I remember,
- 1:24:09right, Um, with rape and that that just gets disappeared when you talk
- 1:24:16about this gets what does it tell you that people have to fabricate cases of
- 1:24:25rape in order to make them go viral. But every now and again you
- 1:24:29get a confirmed, false report that goes viral because it's fucking confirmed. Yep.
- 1:24:40And the sad thing is, like, you know, there there are
- 1:24:43real crimes that happen all the time. Um, there are convictions, there
- 1:24:47are you know, there are cases that could be confirmed that don't go viral,
- 1:24:54and it's because the person is tried. They're they're arrested, they're investigated,
- 1:25:00they're interrogated, they're jailed, they're they're tried, they're convicted, and
- 1:25:06they go on a sex offender list. They go to jail for years.
- 1:25:11When they get out and they're on probation, they have a bunch of things
- 1:25:15they have to perform. They have to go that check in every every week.
- 1:25:18They have therapy they have to go to they have all these things they
- 1:25:20have to do. Right, there's punishment, there's efforts at reform, you
- 1:25:29know, treatment, whether it works or not. I'm I'm not sure that
- 1:25:31I trust the state to do therapy. I just don't think I don't really
- 1:25:38trust a state to do anything. So I guess that's not surprising. But
- 1:25:43if those don't go viral, because they can't use them to say that people
- 1:25:46don't punish rape, that the state doesn't punish rape. If every false report,
- 1:25:50or even close to a majority of false rape reports went viral, they
- 1:25:56would be nothing in the news but the cases of false rapes. But we
- 1:26:02we we get we get one every now and again. Yeah, even even
- 1:26:06in the mass media, and nobody covers it after the fact except us Hereny
- 1:26:13Badger Radio yep. And it's a sad thing, is you know this this
- 1:26:20there's never any accountability for it either. Um, you don't see when even
- 1:26:26when these cases go viral, you don't see any recourse for for the victims
- 1:26:30of the false allegations against the accusers. And Mattress Girl got to continue to
- 1:26:36play victim for quite a while a couple of years after. Like she she
- 1:26:45made a lifestyle out of and our and in our form of artistic expression,
- 1:26:54out of playing victim of being accountable in which she wasn't for having made a
- 1:27:00false allegation. I mean, that's it's it's pathetic and it's horrible that the
- 1:27:04accused never really had any recourse, never never got justice. Right. We
- 1:27:12worry about women getting justice when they make an allegation, but we don't worry
- 1:27:15about the men they accuse getting justice when that accusation turns out to be a
- 1:27:18lie. It's it's even less considered than the justice that men deserve when they're
- 1:27:28the victims and the perpetrator is female, but when they're the sexual assault victims
- 1:27:35and the perpetrators female. Because I think, I don't, I doubt that
- 1:27:40there's many instances of false allegation of any type of violence that a man can
- 1:27:45be taken seriously making against a woman. What have we never seen a case
- 1:27:54in any master media site of a man falsely accusing a woman of rape.
- 1:28:03Yeah, I don't think there's ever been any reporting on that. I presume
- 1:28:09it can happen, it just and maybe even it has. For one reason
- 1:28:19or another, we never hear about it. Well, for starters, in
- 1:28:24order to falsely accuse a woman of sexual violence against him, a guy has
- 1:28:30to get first past the hesitants. Men have to admit to being dominated by
- 1:28:39a woman in any way. Because men do get treated like um, it's
- 1:28:44their fault if something like that happens, even though they're not allowed to fight
- 1:28:47back. You would you would think the the largely feminist mainstream media would would
- 1:28:58be all up on that if it ever did happen, and they could let
- 1:29:01the public know that, Look, there are there are men falsely accusing women
- 1:29:04of rape all up and down, all up and down the country because of
- 1:29:09this one case we've found. But it never happens, and I have the
- 1:29:14only I guess they just they don't want to know. They don't want to
- 1:29:17let anyone know that it's even possible for a man to accuse a woman of
- 1:29:24rape, where whether it's true or false. Yeah, they want everyone to
- 1:29:30believe that rape is something that is only done by mental men, which which
- 1:29:34legally speaking, it is in my country, and I guess, I guess
- 1:29:39it is in a lot of other countries. And so of course it's not
- 1:29:42a story if there's no such thing as a woman raping a man. I
- 1:29:45mean, a man literally can't accuse a woman of rape in my country because
- 1:29:50there's no such crime. Nope, they label it, they put it under
- 1:29:55the umbrella of other sexual assault. And when you bring it up to politicians
- 1:30:00from your country, they will claim that they don't think that that needs to
- 1:30:05be changed because there is a for serious sexual assault, there's a penalty that's
- 1:30:14exactly the same as the penalty for rape. But it's not. It's not
- 1:30:18exactly the same. There is a huge difference, for instance, between calling
- 1:30:25somebody a rapist and calling somebody a pedophile. And if you were to say,
- 1:30:30well, when men can call commit the crime, since we label forced
- 1:30:36sex rape, when men do it, we won't call them pedophiles. We'll
- 1:30:40only call women pedophiles. We're going to call men rapists when they do it.
- 1:30:44Women would go through the roof, they would be livid, but they're
- 1:30:47perfectly fine claiming it's exactly the same punishment if you give the same number of
- 1:30:54years in prison and the same requirements for reforming behaviors afterwards. And Trump being
- 1:31:03tracked and everything, but you don't apply the stigma of the label rapist to
- 1:31:10women. You only apply the stigma of label rapist to male perpetrators. Right,
- 1:31:15Um, that's not a difference, right, that's no big, no
- 1:31:18big deal, just just just you know, they get to go wherever they
- 1:31:21want and do whatever they want without being called a rapist. No big deal.
- 1:31:27So, uh, yeah, it's not the same punishment and it's never
- 1:31:33going to be the same punishment until they label the crime for both sexes,
- 1:31:41they stop requiring a penis to be used in perpetrationum. But you know,
- 1:31:46going going on with the article, So we've established that it's the initial thing
- 1:31:55about only only eight tenths of one percent of rapes getting leading to a conviction
- 1:32:01that turned out to be bullshit. Right. The idea of failure among police
- 1:32:11because women aren't reporting that turned that's bullshit. The idea of false allegations being
- 1:32:18rare, as a confirmed statement that you know, we should make decisions based
- 1:32:25on that claim, that turned out to be bullshit. So now we have
- 1:32:29all of the details on which this woman or this woman I can't remember,
- 1:32:33this author is male or female, but this author is basing the advice we're
- 1:32:41about to hear. All three of the main conditions are bullshit. So we
- 1:32:46have our house of cards. So we're going to scroll down a little bit
- 1:32:49here. Next is there aren't reliable statistics about rape investigations. So I've skipped
- 1:33:02a bunch of text. If you guys want to control f that's what you
- 1:33:05should look for. There aren't reliable statistics about rape investigations, and goes on.
- 1:33:12Police departments are often shrouded by nature the mysterious police department. Nobody even
- 1:33:19knows where it is, and to be fair, many cases aren't easy to
- 1:33:25run down. Nonetheless, we should recognize that when only about twenty percent of
- 1:33:30rape investigations lead to arrest, something isn't working the way it needs to.
- 1:33:36So if we aren't arresting enough people that are investigated, we should just assume
- 1:33:42it's because the investigation isn't being done right, and not that it's either proved
- 1:33:47that some are innocent or that, you know, there's not evidence to prove
- 1:33:54that some are guilty, at least not enough to bring a case even when
- 1:34:01an arrest is made. It goes on. Prosecutors exercise immense discretion when it
- 1:34:08comes to what cases they pursue. So they want to take away prosecutorial discretion
- 1:34:14that is used to prevent the prosecutor from wasting thousands of dollars hundreds of thousands
- 1:34:20of dollars on cases they cannot win, and to keep them from prosecuting people
- 1:34:27who are not guilty. Many are very good about going after these crimes,
- 1:34:32but we shouldn't automatically believe that all of them are pursuing all of the cases
- 1:34:38they should. The city of Austin is currently facing a civil suit alleging gender
- 1:34:45discrimination for its handling of sexual assault cases. According to the suit filing,
- 1:34:49of the two hundred and twenty four cases referred to prosecutors by police between twenty
- 1:34:56sixteen and twenty seventeen, the District Attorney's office accepted only seventy seven. Of
- 1:35:00those seventy seven, only one went to trial. The victim in that case
- 1:35:04was a man. So they're mad. They're mad that the other cases weren't
- 1:35:15prosecuted. But if the other cases weren't prosecuted, what do prosecutors run for
- 1:35:20office on Have you ever seen a prosecutor run for office advertising that they suck
- 1:35:27at their job before um, before Antifa and Black Lives Matter? I don't
- 1:35:39know either one of you. I mean, I can't remember what happened before.
- 1:35:48But I mean, I mean, Biden's enough is right now and he's
- 1:35:51done nothing but advertise how shit is his job. Well, that's true.
- 1:35:56This is it was right after those things he specified, like, that's it's
- 1:36:02interesting that they didn't look at cases prior to that. And I'm kind of
- 1:36:06wondering you know what was the what was the pattern in that city between say,
- 1:36:13twenty twelve and twenty thirteen as opposed to twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen,
- 1:36:17because we had to defund the police movement and the we're not prosecuting violent crimes
- 1:36:25movement taking place in the United States from about twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen on,
- 1:36:31like that's been going on. It went on through the entire Trump administration.
- 1:36:38And you know, you have not just in Austin, but in several
- 1:36:44cities in California. I think there are cities in Indiana, Wisconsin, there's
- 1:36:51been Chicago. Chicago is a big one, like where they're just not prosecuting.
- 1:36:58They're not prosecuting burglars, they're not prosecuting rapists, they're not prosecuting murderers.
- 1:37:02Um like they're not they're not prosecuting muggers, they're not prosecuting. I
- 1:37:08heard it was Republicans who wanted to defund the police. Yep, so we
- 1:37:12hear that all the time. It must it must be their fault that criminals
- 1:37:15are being prosecuted in all these Democrat run cities. Makes sense to me.
- 1:37:20Yep, all those Republicans marching down, down, the street on video chanting
- 1:37:26about wanting dead cops. Now, UM, definitely were at fault for this,
- 1:37:32But I mean, it's interesting that they chose to specifically look at a
- 1:37:39time frame after we started having a regular phenomenon of defunding police and defunding UM
- 1:37:50prosecution of crime in general, and they looked at this. But did they
- 1:37:56also look at how this prosecutor handled burd glory, shoplifting, grand theft auto
- 1:38:04not the video game, um again, mugging on the street, you know,
- 1:38:12assault and battery, like all of the various things that you can prosecute
- 1:38:17somebody for that it involve violence or theft of property or both. Those are
- 1:38:25things that are usually pretty heavily prosecuted, like drug crimes. They did they
- 1:38:29suddenly stop prosecuting drug crimes like they usually go after drug crimes, you know,
- 1:38:32like a like a pit bull. Um. But I think that would
- 1:38:40be a relevant bit of information that's not included in this article. Seems kind
- 1:38:45of biased if you ask me. In the meantime, the one victim in
- 1:38:49that one case that it seems to be galling to this individual that that that
- 1:38:55they prosecuted the case, or that the case they did prosecute the victim was
- 1:38:59a man. Now, why would that make a difference? Why would that
- 1:39:04matter if the victim was a man? So her claim, I keep saying
- 1:39:14her. I'm going to go to the top and look here real quick.
- 1:39:16Yep. This is an opinion piece, by the way, just so everybody
- 1:39:20knows, Um, yep, and it's Lisa Anderson or Eliza Anderson. Actually,
- 1:39:28um, so you're not just going to assume this person's gender, are
- 1:39:32you. That's a female name. So either this person identifies as a woman
- 1:39:40or um, you know, is biologically female and is giving their their female
- 1:39:45name. But uh yeah, where we were here, I'm not far enough
- 1:39:51down there, City of Austin, Okay, so she says, And why
- 1:39:57are why are rape convictions so hard to secure? Prosecutors say that juries don't
- 1:40:01trust victims either. Um. Again, juries don't trust accusers. And this
- 1:40:10is an automatic belief that doesn't It isn't merited, right trust. You shouldn't
- 1:40:16trust anybody. If you're a juror and somebody's gonna you're supposed to be looking
- 1:40:24for, you know, evidence of validity or invalidity in the statements and description
- 1:40:30of what the person says and everything like you're supposed to be judging guilt or
- 1:40:35innocence, whether or not this person is believable. But but yeah, but
- 1:40:42you're supposed to trust rape accusers automatically. Prosecutors say that juries don't trust victims
- 1:40:48jurors who are typically older and more conservative than the general population. Are they
- 1:40:55saying that liberals don't um answer summons this because that's kind of fun And jury
- 1:41:00duty summons is like, I've had four or five jury duty summons is since
- 1:41:06I moved to Dayton, and I answer them and I never get called for
- 1:41:13cheery duty. So maybe they looked up your online profile. Yeah, well,
- 1:41:19I do admit when I you know right out, is they because they
- 1:41:26ask on the forum is there anything any other information we need to know?
- 1:41:30And I mentioned cheery nullification because I it's a fact I do. I am
- 1:41:36aware of it, and I don't trust the process. And when with regard
- 1:41:43to rape allegations, I know that potentially exculpatory evidence is inadmissible in court because
- 1:41:50of the potential to embarrass the accuser. So I can never trust that I'm
- 1:41:57seeing all of the evidence. I'm seeing the picture that it paints is an
- 1:42:00accurate enough picture that you know, I could vote to convict somebody. So
- 1:42:06if somebody's if I were called as a juror for a sexual assault case,
- 1:42:12I would I wouldn't. I would really have a rough time. Like you'd
- 1:42:15have to have it on video of somebody attacking and subduing another person who is
- 1:42:21screaming for help and trying to get away from them. And even then you
- 1:42:28know it'd be I'd have to see them peacefully walking along beforehand, so I
- 1:42:32know it's not BDSM some kind of BDSM bullshit for the record, in this
- 1:42:38age of deep fakes and yeah, AI being able to create anything, I'll
- 1:42:44say this in advance. If you call me onto jurorgitty not even video evidence.
- 1:42:48Yeah, you have to see their hands, if they got more than
- 1:42:51five fingers, I'm voting no, not guilty. That's fake. But or
- 1:42:59you know anything else weird about their Like AI can't draw Hans. I draw
- 1:43:02Hayns better than AI, and I can't draw Hans. And sooner or later
- 1:43:06you'll you'll are all gonna follow the Scottish model where we go, well,
- 1:43:12okay, so we can't trust juries to deal with this because they're because they're
- 1:43:16going to be discerning in some way. So we'll leave it all up to
- 1:43:20the judge who can discern what we'd tell him or or zim or two to
- 1:43:28think about. Yeah, there anywhere? Is there anywhere we can escape to
- 1:43:32chat? Let us know? Is there any country that we cannot? Yeah,
- 1:43:41but but we've already been told to lie about Mars too. You have
- 1:43:45heard right that Mars needs women. Of course, so it's Jupiter and beyond
- 1:43:50the infinite there we go. Uh, obviously we have to we have to
- 1:43:57start with Jupiter because if Mars needs women, we must pump up the volume.
- 1:44:03And gen xers will get that, hopefully if they're not getting senile.
- 1:44:10But yeah, so this goes on, why why are rape rape conviction so
- 1:44:14hard to secure? So they're blaming juries, then they're they're blaming juries,
- 1:44:18age and a jurists. Age and conservatism as though being conservative makes you more
- 1:44:26likely to view a person telling the truth as a liar, tend to have
- 1:44:30a more narrow view of what constitutes a sexual assault. Yeah, a conservative
- 1:44:36individual, if if they are advised that there's a legal standard for what constitutes
- 1:44:44a sexual assault, they will follow that standard. They will not write in
- 1:44:47their own idea of what constitutes a sexual assault and expand sexual assault law to
- 1:44:54meet that. So it goes on materials distributed to prosecutors by the National Sexual
- 1:45:02Violence Resource Center, a nonprofit and field leader on sexual assault. Warren prosecutors
- 1:45:08that juries are unlikely to believe victims who don't describe what they see as real
- 1:45:13rape. And this is where it starts to really go off the rails.
- 1:45:18In a real rape, the victim and the rapist are strangers. Right now,
- 1:45:25Maybe forty years ago people thought that, But we've had forty years of
- 1:45:31being told over and over again by feminists that most rape is acquaintance rape or
- 1:45:36date rape, that most of the time the victim knows the perpetrator. Right
- 1:45:45then they go on the rapist uses a weapon and there are wounds to prove
- 1:45:49it all right, Well, again, forty years of being told that's not
- 1:45:54true. It's the huge campaigns across the university campuses, high school campuses.
- 1:46:00The whole public has heard this news campaigns and everything at least forty years of
- 1:46:06certain feminists telling us the old heterosexual sexual intercourse is rape. And ask yourself
- 1:46:15how far have those termites dug into the legal system. Quite far, pretty
- 1:46:23I would say given that, I mean a lot of feminists like to say
- 1:46:29that it was perfectly legal for a husband to rape his wife until nineteen ninety
- 1:46:33three, which is bollocks. But to this day it is still not a
- 1:46:38crime for a woman to rape her husband. So none of this makes sense
- 1:46:44except in the context of the very feminists who have been eating their way through
- 1:46:49our legal system for the past century. At the very least, and by
- 1:46:55the way, when feminists tell you that it's okay that forced coitus or forced
- 1:47:06cone lingus are not considered rape in any UK, but then they turn around
- 1:47:15and tell you that, you know, women or men couldn't be prosecuted for
- 1:47:20raping their wives in anyos Michigan until nineteen ninety three, it's it's fair to
- 1:47:29point out to them that actually they would still be convicted of a crime if
- 1:47:32they raped their wives. They would be considered domestic violence perpetrators. They just
- 1:47:39wouldn't be called rapist. They wouldn't have the label rapist. But they could
- 1:47:44be convicted of domestic violence and be subject to years in prison. They could
- 1:47:51be forced into perpetrator programs, and as perpetrators of domestic violence, they could
- 1:47:59even be forced into sexual perpetrator programs, they just wouldn't have the label rapist.
- 1:48:05Imagine that, you know, so it's not that bad, right,
- 1:48:12And then people people throw this this idea up in your face and then and
- 1:48:16then you hit them with um with the reverse, like did you know how
- 1:48:25many countries to this day in which women can certainly be convicted of sexual assault
- 1:48:31even against their husbands. They never fucking are, but by law they can
- 1:48:35never be accused of rape. They can be accused of everything they can,
- 1:48:39they can go up and down that that whole ringmarole, but they'll never be
- 1:48:43called rapists. You explain this to someone who tried to to fucking own you
- 1:48:49with that particular what statistic, and they go, what I don't I don't
- 1:48:56understand what you're saying to me, And like, I'm saying what you're say
- 1:49:00but with the genders vest because people people say this without even thinking of what
- 1:49:06they're saying, right, And then they want to argue that it's women are
- 1:49:11discriminated against because of this factor, but they don't want to admit that if
- 1:49:16it's discrimination against women, then men are discriminated against on a higher level,
- 1:49:23because it's pretty much universal it's not just if they're married. If a woman
- 1:49:30tracks down him and she doesn't know, pursues him into his home, holds
- 1:49:35him at gunpoint, and forces him to perform a sex act on her,
- 1:49:41she's never going to be labeled a rapist under the current law. Like that's
- 1:49:47a woman in the UK will only ever be labeled a sexual assault perpetrator,
- 1:49:54just like up until nineteen ninety three and Michigan, a husband who forced himself
- 1:49:59on his wife would only ever be labeled a perpetrator of domestic violence. And
- 1:50:05I mean, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Right,
- 1:50:09If women are just as punished without the label, then we could say
- 1:50:15that men are just as punished without the label. Two, Right, why
- 1:50:18don't we just eliminate rape blaw altogether and call it all sexual assaults. Some
- 1:50:23states in the US do that. But what if the candor identified as a
- 1:50:28goose? Or is it the other way around? I remember, it happens
- 1:50:31in both ways. It's just funny that we've got to the point where,
- 1:50:36rather than you know, making all people equal under the law, let's redefine
- 1:50:42goose as gander and gander as goose, and see what that does for us.
- 1:50:46Yeah, well, it's just as the main the main problem is we
- 1:50:54we spend too much time policing the Ganders Mountain and not enough that of the
- 1:51:01Goose Um. And again that's that's a localized one. Not everybody's gonna understand
- 1:51:09what I just said. Oh but yeah, so quote unquote real rape.
- 1:51:15The rapist uses a weapon and there are wounds to prove it. The victim
- 1:51:17fights back, and she is completely sober at the time. She cries when
- 1:51:21she tells police what happened. Right, That's that's all stuff that feminists have
- 1:51:30had a forty year long campaign, forty years of telling the public, widespread
- 1:51:40telling the public, telling the public in news articles, telling the public and
- 1:51:43poster campaigns, telling students directly in orientation at university and in high school.
- 1:51:50Um, you know, using mainstream entertainment media, using mainstream television, news
- 1:52:00media, using music, using popular culture to tell the public these are myths,
- 1:52:06they're not true. And apparently feminism is such a failure at everything it
- 1:52:15does that it in in twenty twenty three, after decades of this campaign,
- 1:52:25you know, people still believe the myths, and people still don't know that
- 1:52:32a victim might not cry that. Uh, Um that that rape can happen
- 1:52:39in a in a way that's facilitated by alcohol or drugs. You know that
- 1:52:44that. Um, fighting back doesn't necessarily always produce visible wounds. Um that
- 1:52:51it's not always you know, successful that there are complicated things that contributing.
- 1:52:59Fact there's in a lot of assault cases. You know, like no nobody
- 1:53:02knows any of that stuff. That's the reason people aren't getting convicted. Would
- 1:53:12somebody want to say something, No, Okay, I'm starting to wind down,
- 1:53:16like that's what I'm hearing. Yeah, So she goes on this real
- 1:53:21rape bears little resemblance to the reality of most rapes, like this is ancient.
- 1:53:27Uh stuff that that that is pretty much nobody believes what she's attributing to
- 1:53:31people here anymore. Um, victims rarely fight back. Now that's not necessarily
- 1:53:40true though either, Like just fighting back doesn't necessarily the wounds you get when
- 1:53:45you fight back don't necessarily show up as like bruises and stuff like that.
- 1:53:49Um, if you're wrestled in submission, you might fight back until you're physically
- 1:53:55exhausted without receiving a single bruise. And on the other hand, if you
- 1:54:00do have bruising, it might not show up until days later, you know,
- 1:54:06Like some people don't bruise all that easily. Other people it shows up
- 1:54:10immediately, and it's pretty blatantly obvious. So I don't know. But yeah,
- 1:54:15none of this is new information that people were unaware of. Most know
- 1:54:19their assailants. Many victims go into survival mode and seem emotionless when they recount
- 1:54:25their experiences. A lot of this is based on the claim that all allegations
- 1:54:33that aren't conclusively proven false must be true, the belief that they must all
- 1:54:38be true. So you have a lot of people who accused people they know,
- 1:54:45right, and so we have this this claim that most know their assailants.
- 1:54:53Well, many do, but that's not necessarily true that most know their
- 1:54:59assi islands. It's not necessarily true that most don't cry when they recount their
- 1:55:04experiences. That it's true that people who have been victimized over and over again
- 1:55:10don't cry when they recount their experiences. But if you're hysterical about something,
- 1:55:14if you're terrified, you know, most people do, men and women,
- 1:55:20especially if they were victimized that night or very recently. And the whole thing
- 1:55:30of fight flight or freeze like. I think the claim that people freeze up
- 1:55:38is used to bolster the validity of allegations that are really false, where an
- 1:55:49individual has made choices, right, she's she's made sexual choices and she regrets
- 1:55:56them. Now. I'm not saying that everybody that that doesn't defend themselves and
- 1:56:02that that um experiences sexual encounter that they're unhappy about later is not a victim.
- 1:56:11But there is a big difference between somebody physically trying to force themselves on
- 1:56:18you and you don't defend yourself because you freeze up versus a person you know
- 1:56:26attempting to seduce you and you go along with it, and then later you
- 1:56:32claim that it was because you froze up, Like, that's not freezing up.
- 1:56:35If you're actively engaged in the in participating, um, that's that's not
- 1:56:43freezing up. Yeah, if you freeze up during the seduction process, then
- 1:56:47the sex process is not going to happen. No, oh, it's really
- 1:56:53not. Just the man is just gonna go Okay, she doesn't appear to
- 1:56:56be interested. She's turned into a mute statue and I'm waving my hand in
- 1:57:01front of her face and she's not responding. So I'm going to go elsewhere.
- 1:57:09Yeah, being go eye is cute and and everything, but the deer
- 1:57:13in the headlights look is not sexy. A man doesn't make it all the
- 1:57:18way to a woman's bed as a result of her freezing up, No,
- 1:57:23only makes it that far if she's been quite animated up until that point.
- 1:57:29And why would she be animated up until that point if she wasn't compliant until
- 1:57:34that point. Oh, this is gonna get clipped in the wrong way,
- 1:57:39isn't it? Probably? But that you're you know, you're not up,
- 1:57:43You're not wrong. You know, there's like I said, there's a huge
- 1:57:45difference between freezing when you're being assaulted, when you're being um your boundaries are
- 1:57:54being crossed by somebody who knows they're crossing your boundaries and they're doing it on
- 1:57:58purpose versus um. You know, in the process of seduction, when someone
- 1:58:03is flirting with you and engaging in flirtatious touch and looking for reciprocation, and
- 1:58:12you're reciprocating, and then later you say, well, I froze up,
- 1:58:16Like reciprocation is not freezing. That's and unfortunately there is a phenomenon if feminists
- 1:58:24trying to interpret reciprocation as freezing, and that's not the same thing. Um,
- 1:58:31And you don't have the same look on your face either. Deer in
- 1:58:33the headlights is very different than doeide, right, and so men, you
- 1:58:40need to have standards when it when it. When it comes to getting busy
- 1:58:45in bed, if she just starfishes, she just lies there like a dead
- 1:58:48fish, then maybe it means she's not up for it. But even if
- 1:58:55she is, then fuck her. She's not helping. So one way where
- 1:59:00or another, that should be a sign that either she doesn't want it or
- 1:59:03she fucking sucks at it. And I guess that's the wrong way. She's
- 1:59:10not good at it. It means film Cow was wrong, starfish doesn't really
- 1:59:14love you. Yes, either way, it should be a sign that you
- 1:59:18shouldn't be having sex with it either because she doesn't want it, well because
- 1:59:26she's not very good at it. Yep. And you know, if you're
- 1:59:30raising a daughter like something that should be communicated to young women right now,
- 1:59:36right these standards exist. This is what people are being taught about rape.
- 1:59:42Therefore, as a girl, she is responsible for communicating her interest. If
- 1:59:50she wants affection, she's responsible for communicating that she wants affection and where she
- 1:59:57wants it to stop. If she wants sex, then she's responsible for communicating
- 2:00:03this. She doesn't just want affection, that she wants full on sex,
- 2:00:09and she should understand the difference. But but yeah, we are told by
- 2:00:17feminists this is a criminal justice problem, right when rapists and again this author
- 2:00:25is using rapists as code for accused men, not perpetrators of both sexes.
- 2:00:34More people when rapists aren't prosecuted, more people are at risk of getting raped,
- 2:00:41More victims feel abandoned by the justice system and unheard by their peers.
- 2:00:45No one benefits when our system fails to properly identify and respond to a crime.
- 2:00:51That's the only truth in this whole article. No one benefits when our
- 2:00:58system fails to properly identify and respond to a crime that includes false allegation.
- 2:01:03I was gonna say this does not benefit the falsely accused, but I guess
- 2:01:08they said crime. But when they say crime, do they mean crime any
- 2:01:14more than when they say rapists, do they really mean rapists? Yeah,
- 2:01:19no one benefits. Well, there are some people who make a lot of
- 2:01:24money when the system doesn't prosecute false allegations. So I guess somebody does benefit
- 2:01:30from that at your expense, by the way, taxpayers, Police departments should
- 2:01:35implement better policies to address this problem. They should seek out trauma informed investigative
- 2:01:43practices and focus on building trust with victims. Prosecutors can be bolder and fight
- 2:01:48more conviction or fight for more convictions. So what they're basically saying here we
- 2:01:55went over trauma informed investigative practices when we were talking about the Title nine stuff,
- 2:02:02because that was one of the things the Title nine grifter movement, like
- 2:02:11the ones that make their materials and sell them to universities to train people in
- 2:02:16how to respond to sexual misconduct allegations on campus. Their big thing was this
- 2:02:24trauma informed thing. And there's a combination of recognition of differences in behavior between
- 2:02:34someone who is traumatized with someone who is not, and exploitation of that recognition
- 2:02:42as a means of eliminating due process, eliminating vetting of an allegation. Because
- 2:02:48due process of law isn't just you having the right to present evidence in your
- 2:02:54defense, you having the right to not incriminate yourself and stuff like that.
- 2:02:58It's not just your right to decide what you will or won't do in the
- 2:03:01court system. In regard to your defense, it is also a responsibility for
- 2:03:08the prosecutor to vet the allegation for validity, believability, and winnability, because
- 2:03:15again, as a tax payer, you personally as a third party, fourth
- 2:03:21party, even because you're like the prosecutor is third party, but you're even
- 2:03:27outside of that. Your money gets used to pay for this, the dollars
- 2:03:31that you have to pay to your cities, your counties, your states through
- 2:03:38the various taxes that are applied to your income, which you're a lot higher
- 2:03:42than you think they are because you're you're being taxed over and over again.
- 2:03:46The money that comes into your wallet gets income taxed, and then you also
- 2:03:51get taxed when you buy things, and you get taxed when you get services.
- 2:03:56You get taxed when you pass your money on to another party because of
- 2:04:01your death or or because you've paid child support or whatever. Um. You
- 2:04:06just you have the shit ti taxed out of you and it goes to pay
- 2:04:11for things like this. So you have the right, as the person who
- 2:04:16is financing the prosecutor's office one of many, to know that they're not abusing
- 2:04:24the privilege of stealing money from you to run their office in order to falsely
- 2:04:30imprison other people and potentially come after you if you're ever accused in the same
- 2:04:35manner. That's that's your right. They say police departments should dot dot dot
- 2:04:45focus on building trust with victims. I mean, thanks Lauren, that that
- 2:04:51that was fitting. It was um uh, I mean, I mean police
- 2:04:59departments should should focus on on on treating everyone with the same way until they've
- 2:05:10quite figured out who is a victim and who is not. I mean,
- 2:05:13surely the it's the courts who are who are tasked with figuring out who is
- 2:05:17a victim and who is not, And until they've done that, they need
- 2:05:23to treat everyone equally. What with all men being created equal? Whoops,
- 2:05:29sorry, all men and women being equal. So just the way that paragraph
- 2:05:34is phrased just makes it sound like it's up to the police to define who
- 2:05:39is and is not a victim, and I guess in some cases it is.
- 2:05:44But if if all you've got to go on is the word of an
- 2:05:47accuser and the word of the accused, then no, it's not up to
- 2:05:51police to focus on building trust with whoever they think is the victims' supposed to
- 2:06:00go through a court process, like the police certainly shouldn't be turning up to
- 2:06:05court with an idea in the head of whoever is the victor. I guess
- 2:06:10they should if they have good reason for it, but this just it stinks.
- 2:06:15Yeah, you should shouldn't be able to walk into a police department and
- 2:06:19make an allegation without any evidence, and that's that's what they go on.
- 2:06:24And you know, like, all right, we don't have to have any
- 2:06:26evidence. We're just going to go into court and prosecute. And then the
- 2:06:31court is told that, you know, you can't doubt this allegation. So
- 2:06:35unless there is exculpatory evidence that that conclusively proves the innocence of the accused,
- 2:06:43you have to convict. Oh and by the way, they're not allowed to
- 2:06:45submit an exculpatory evidence, So that's that's solved. Right. That's not the
- 2:06:49way it should be. You know, you walk into a police department and
- 2:06:53you make a serious allegation against another person, they should vet that allegation.
- 2:06:59You know't ridiculous about it, but they should at least be vetting the allegation
- 2:07:04for believability and validity. And if if you make an allegation and you say
- 2:07:13at time o'clock on you know, day date, day, month, year
- 2:07:18date, person X was at location? Why and did crime Z to me?
- 2:07:27And then the police start investigating those details, and lo and behold that
- 2:07:32person has video proving that actually, during that specific date and time, they
- 2:07:40were twenty miles away from you. Then you know, that's a false allegation.
- 2:07:47You lied. That person was not where you said they were doing what
- 2:07:50you said they were doing, you know, or if there's video of you
- 2:07:55in that location, any other person isn't there. Again, well, a
- 2:08:00crime is not happening in this video. What the hell? You lied?
- 2:08:05And there is no excuse that that should That's enough that, you know,
- 2:08:09unless you can prove that you were hypnotized and convinced that something happened that didn't
- 2:08:16um and you should be able to prove that at least uh, then then
- 2:08:22you lied. You should be prosecuted for lying. That's that's how the justice
- 2:08:28system protects itself. That's the immune system within the justice system against lies and
- 2:08:35against us misuse of public funds and misuse of public work. You own the
- 2:08:45prosecutor's office, You paid for it. You are his employer, he works
- 2:08:50for you, and it's your right to not have that work stolen and used
- 2:08:58for illicit purposes by a liar. I just like that's that's a huge,
- 2:09:03big deal. People talk about the rights of the accuser, Fewer people talk
- 2:09:09about the rights of the accused, but the rights of the taxpayer are just
- 2:09:13completely ignored in this situation. Yeah you awake, Lara, Yeah you are,
- 2:09:22so we thought you were asleep. You were asleep. But sometimes you
- 2:09:26wake up like halfway between a dream and reality, and you and and you
- 2:09:31start and you start talking gibberish. I know this because because I've slept next
- 2:09:35to Lauren. Sometimes she wakes up going, what was all this shit about
- 2:09:39you? Hey, it could be worse. I don't believe I claim to
- 2:09:46be president of the universe in my sleep. So I'm not arrogant or anything.
- 2:09:56Yeah, we've had we've had a good time, and we nearly we've
- 2:09:58nearly finished with the article. We're in the final stretch. Let's let's go
- 2:10:03for your God. So so here's the solution this writer is offering. Right,
- 2:10:07we have prosecutors being bolder and fighting for more convictions, not justice.
- 2:10:13Right, the goal is more convictions. One should remember that because that presumes
- 2:10:20guilt this person is presuming guilt right now. But if we want fewer rapists
- 2:10:26on the streets, we need to rethink how we treat sexual assault victims.
- 2:10:30Rape victims shouldn't be terrified that if they come forward they will be called liars
- 2:10:33or sleat shamed or interrogated. Our beliefs matter. How we talk about sexual
- 2:10:41assault matters. One in five women in the US will be raped in her
- 2:10:43lifetime, according to the National Sexual Violence Resource Center. Someone you love is
- 2:10:50probably one of them, and she's probably paying attention. That's the end of
- 2:10:54the article. So we just had two paragraphs there of presume booming the accusations
- 2:11:01true and demanding that they be acted upon without challenging them at all. And
- 2:11:11of course, UH, it's slut shaming to to to to question the whether
- 2:11:20the accuser actually consented or not. So there you go, guys. Um,
- 2:11:28this person is advocating a system that does not vet allegations. And this
- 2:11:35was this was written in twenty nineteen. This is something that Alison sent me.
- 2:11:41But this is they've been making these changes. This, this trauma informed
- 2:11:46um investigation UH process is being used now by police departments, It's being used
- 2:11:58by prosecuting a turn knees and they're they're they're still not in some places,
- 2:12:03they're still not prosecuting because you know, defund the police and all that jazz.
- 2:12:09But it's only it's only in places like Texas where the way this needs
- 2:12:15to be pushed as hard as possible, because in places like Canada and Scotland,
- 2:12:20it's they haven't even needed to push it. They just gently maneuver it
- 2:12:26through an open door. And it's already the case in Canada and Scotland and
- 2:12:31in those sorts of places, and probably in California. Yeah, in the
- 2:12:35areas of of our various countries where the feminists are leading the charge. And
- 2:12:46ironically, Texas might be the last place in the free world, if you
- 2:12:52can even call it that, where they can actually make this happen. Yeah,
- 2:12:56that is the tough thing. It's it really is hard to it's becoming
- 2:13:03more and more not free. That's a whole other discussion though, when the
- 2:13:11one that will have to uh, thank the CIA in advance for listening to
- 2:13:16very carefully because they do the Yeah, that's we don't have to worry at
- 2:13:28least about them being at their airports. But it would be really you guys.
- 2:13:33Have you guys have to worry about the FBI, I need to worry
- 2:13:35about the CIA. Yeah, it's it's um shoot, I can't take a
- 2:13:41border patrol. They're the guys. They don't listen to us. They don't
- 2:13:45care. Although I think we've had some shows where we've talked about, UM,
- 2:13:50how hard their job is and some of the horrible things that they have
- 2:13:54to see, UM dealing with you know, the United States, UM southern
- 2:14:03border and the issues surrounding it and how it's handled. So they might like
- 2:14:09us. Who knows, they don't, well not according to what Allison and
- 2:14:15I have encountered at the northern border. Yeah. Well, and that I
- 2:14:20still kind of wonder if somebody poisoned the water is there with Yes, well,
- 2:14:28I mean we did have somebody try to do that, um with regard
- 2:14:33to our hotel and everything as well. So that was kind of was the
- 2:14:41takedown, Mr. I know, he embarrassed himself so badly into that was
- 2:14:45that was that was That was after the Allison and I encounter at the body.
- 2:14:50Yeah, we just we don't know that that's the only thing he did.
- 2:14:54He didn't try to poison the waters with the Sheridan ahead of time,
- 2:14:58because nobody was told ahead of time publicly where we were going to be.
- 2:15:03We didn't we didn't allow that information to even be known by the general public
- 2:15:09until the convention was already underway. The conference was already underway, and that
- 2:15:16prevented that kind of behavior, right, So there was that, but we
- 2:15:20don't know that he never did anything else. We don't know. Well,
- 2:15:28I think the reason Allison and I and Jonathan would turned away at the border
- 2:15:33of North Dakota was because we were we were driving with a trailer full of
- 2:15:39um polythene bricks, bricks displays, yeah, plays, And it involved this
- 2:15:46trailer full of all these various elements, including like a hundred or so polythene
- 2:15:52bricks, and I can imagine why the North Dakota Board of Patrol would look
- 2:15:56at that and go, well, there could be a kilo of fentanyl and
- 2:16:00one of those bricks. Yeah, that's true. So it's you know,
- 2:16:03it's not it's not. It probably wasn't even a political thing. That was
- 2:16:07just that we was very on edge about that sort of thing. But it
- 2:16:11was no reason to ban Allison from the country for five years now, which
- 2:16:13is I think, Yeah, I guess. I guess a year or two
- 2:16:18from now, Allison will be able to come into the country. And it
- 2:16:22barely matches because no one was allowed to come into the country until a couple
- 2:16:24of fucking weeks ago. Anyway, Yeah, but in any case, well,
- 2:16:30we have finished this article. UM, we're gonna interrupt. I was
- 2:16:33gonna go over. There's another two articles I have lined up for this subject.
- 2:16:39But before we do that, next week, UM, I have prim
- 2:16:43Reaper coming on to talk about an article I found on the Men's Right subreddit.
- 2:16:50Actually, um about men's experience of postpartum depression. And it's not men's
- 2:16:56experience of women's postpartum depression. It's men's experience of postpart postpartum depression. And
- 2:17:05it does make sense, um, just thinking thinking about it, just offhand.
- 2:17:11Um, when you have a big project and seeing a pregnancy all the
- 2:17:16way through a pretty damn big project, a nine month long project, and
- 2:17:20you have by the end of it, you've got a weeble to protect um,
- 2:17:26because you know, the mother becomes the most uncoordinated thing a human being
- 2:17:30can ever be without developing a permanent disability or at least a cripple. Is
- 2:17:37suffering a crippling injury, and uh, and then it's over all of a
- 2:17:41sudden everything has changed. You now have lack of sleep, you have a
- 2:17:46visible, like incredibly visible, visible responsibility for the most vulnerable person in the
- 2:17:54world, who is who means everything to you, and your whole focus changes.
- 2:18:01It makes perfect sense that there would be, you know, something along
- 2:18:07the lines of postpartum depression that could happen to men in that circumstance, especially
- 2:18:11since men's brain chemistry changes in response to women's physiological changes around pregnancy. So
- 2:18:20we'll go through that article, We'll look at what the writer has to say,
- 2:18:26talk about possibilities and maybe some tools for dealing with postpartum depression. And
- 2:18:35you know, it's it's something that I like, I hadn't heard of it,
- 2:18:39but it does make perfect sense that this kind of thing could happen to
- 2:18:45new new young fathers. So that's our next week. But as far as
- 2:18:52this show is concerned, I don't think I have any super chats. I
- 2:18:56didn't see any going through our chat, so I hope I didn't miss anything.
- 2:19:03But I'm going to look at our super Chow's where is that channel just
- 2:19:11sitting here waiting for the super Chow channel to come up. In my scrolling,
- 2:19:16I feel like Arlo Guthrie waiting for the four point massacre to come around.
- 2:19:24There it is. It's especially fun doing this with dyslexia. Okay,
- 2:19:31there we go. Meredith g gave us five dollars and said, HBr talk
- 2:19:35two fifty or two sixty two, honey for the Badgers, thanks for the
- 2:19:39interesting conversation. And Michael Emerge Well Windberg gave us ten dollars and said,
- 2:19:46there's another reason for clothing to come up, and this enrages the hell out
- 2:19:52of activists. Clothing Damage TLDR in fact mentioned at once in a video there
- 2:19:58was a case in which a man was a exonerated of a rape accusation because
- 2:20:01the woman was wearing a very elaborate bra which was impossible to take out in
- 2:20:07a struggle without damaging it. Another factor is the concept that when women dress
- 2:20:11in a very provocative manner, they obviously attract stares for men, thus the
- 2:20:16accusation of asking for it. Of course, by playing the conflation game couples
- 2:20:24coupled with the low bar for calling something sexual assault, attention gets conflated with
- 2:20:28rape, which in turn gets conflated with the cases where woman's clothes give proof
- 2:20:33that no assault occurred, and just like that, you can claim women that
- 2:20:37women are blamed for their own rape. This is why they didn't like that
- 2:20:43special nail polish that can change color in a spiked drink like that when that
- 2:20:50came around. I'm not even sure if that was a real thing, by
- 2:20:52the way, but when when those stories came out, feminists were like,
- 2:20:56how dare you? How dare you? Women wouldn't women shouldn't have to wear
- 2:21:00these things. Men should just not rape them. And I suppose they'll do
- 2:21:03the same thing when it comes to anti rape bras, how dare you?
- 2:21:09We should have pro rape bras, We should have bras that can be removed
- 2:21:13by fucking breathing on them, and we should have nail polish that makes it
- 2:21:22easier to rape women, just so that it's easier to convict men. It's
- 2:21:28crazy, like so many of these jokes, they seem like jokes now,
- 2:21:33but they will become reality any minute. Now is the tough thing, and
- 2:21:39this we could discuss for hours. We're not going to do tonight. But
- 2:21:45there's a lot of nuance around claims that are made with regard to whether consent
- 2:21:50was given or not, and how verbal and explicitly verbal consent has to be
- 2:21:58in the context of a woman's overt observable behavior. And for instance, it's
- 2:22:11ridiculous to argue that a woman who pursues a man into his bedroom and climbs
- 2:22:15on top of him and has sex with him didn't consent. But feminists want
- 2:22:20women to be able to say they didn't consent, and you're not allowed to
- 2:22:22question that. And if you apply any kind of standards of evidence, like
- 2:22:28um, you know it did did she? Did she bring birth control with
- 2:22:35her and use it? You know? Did she? Like there's there are
- 2:22:41some types of panties that are made to facilitate sex without having to take them
- 2:22:46off. Panties and other undergarments, right, did she have a neglige under
- 2:22:52her clothes instead of comfortable underwear, then it's fair to ask why. It's
- 2:22:56not unfair to ask if you wore something under your clothes it's made to be
- 2:23:01looked at, not made to feel comfortable and be durable up against your blue
- 2:23:09jeans and stuff. Why did you select that to wear that night? If
- 2:23:15you did not intend to engage in sexual activity if you did not intend for
- 2:23:18it to be looked at, why didn't you wear your white granny panties that
- 2:23:22night? You know, that's not an unfair question to ask. What's unfair
- 2:23:28is to take that alone as proof. And if there is evidence of a
- 2:23:35physical assault and injuries and or the guy used a gun, or there's evidence
- 2:23:41of being drugged, you know, and things like that against her will to
- 2:23:46then come along and say, well, but her panties were sexy, like,
- 2:23:50that's not common. It's more common for feminists to interpret the other.
- 2:23:56Well, this is really more nuanced. We can't be or we can't be
- 2:24:01convinced that you know this was done without your consent, that this crime was
- 2:24:07committed of doing this without your consent based on your actions during that night,
- 2:24:16right, the collective actions that you took, and the lack of evidence of
- 2:24:22force or coercion or drugging or anything like that. They want to conflate that
- 2:24:28with well, her panties were sexy, so she was asking for it.
- 2:24:31Well, her shorts were two shorts, so she was asking for it.
- 2:24:35Those are two very different things, right, Evidence is evidence, right,
- 2:24:41and insinuation is not evidence, And that is it for the super choose.
- 2:24:48I'm going to briefly look at rumble and it's still rumble, and I don't
- 2:24:58see. Oh, there we go. I'm being told not to call it
- 2:25:03stubborn, call it persistent. No, I am as stubborn ass I admit
- 2:25:09it. Funnily enough, back at the Woman's March in Trump's inauguration, they
- 2:25:16would speak in the exact same way. I think we were talking there about
- 2:25:26because that's right after the statements about children's upbringing. I think we were talking
- 2:25:31there about the the rape myths that people allegedly still believe. Because feminism is
- 2:25:43so bad at information campaigns, they just must really suck at that. So
- 2:25:52there we go, and I think that's it. We don't have any I
- 2:25:56don't think there's a name for rumbles that are paid for, rumble rands that
- 2:26:01are paid but we don't have any of those. We don't have any super
- 2:26:03chats. So we are done. So thanks to everybody who listened to This
- 2:26:07was a fairly long sausage. Thanks everybody who listened to the fairly long sausage.
- 2:26:11Thanks both you guys for sticking out the long sausage with me, and
- 2:26:16thanks to everybody who works in the background to make HBr talk happen, and
- 2:26:20good night all. We'll see you next week week and talk to prim Reaper