Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / A Wadeye housing group says more than 30 homes have been damaged during community unrest
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Now joining me on the line is Scott McIntyre, the
- 0:03Speaker 1: chief executive of the SUMMERMA. I think I've pronounced that wrong,
- 0:08Speaker 1: but we'll double check Development Corporation out in What Air.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Scott.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Good morning Katie.
- 0:14Speaker 1: How are you not too bad? Mate? How are you
- 0:16Speaker 1: guys going? What's the situation in What Air at the moment?
- 0:20Speaker 2: Yeah? So, look, it's safe to say it's not a
- 0:24Speaker 2: happy place at the moment out there in What Air overnight,
- 0:27Speaker 2: I think things are relatively can't compared to the last
- 0:30Speaker 2: few weeks, but yeah, a lot of people displaced and
- 0:32Speaker 2: a lot of people feeling the look pact of a
- 0:34Speaker 2: lot of disturbance, and some nasty nights, sleepless nights, and yeah,
- 0:40Speaker 2: not a great time mate.
- 0:42Speaker 1: Tell me so with the Development Corporation that you are
- 0:45Speaker 1: the chief executive of, tell us what services you deliver
- 0:48Speaker 1: out there or the involvement within the community.
- 0:52Speaker 2: I look, so where do you want me to start? Really,
- 0:55Speaker 2: we do a whole range of things from where a
- 0:58Speaker 2: charity to start, charity established to try and breach the
- 1:01Speaker 2: gap for the people out there and improve health and
- 1:06Speaker 2: welfare and all things from education through the health and
- 1:09Speaker 2: everything else. We build and maintain most of the houses
- 1:13Speaker 2: out there. We run the range of program We run
- 1:15Speaker 2: the ah chair and NDIS programs, We run accommodation and
- 1:20Speaker 2: post office workshop, fuel and basically reinvest back into the
- 1:27Speaker 2: attempt to reinvest back into activities to improve the community.
- 1:30Speaker 1: So what's going on with the houses? Are these reports
- 1:34Speaker 1: that thirty seven homes have been destroyed?
- 1:36Speaker 2: Correct? Yeah, that's my understanding. That's correct. That there's been
- 1:42Speaker 2: over many weeks now, it has been ongoing disruptions and
- 1:45Speaker 2: violence and unfortunately that sometimes turns to property crime and
- 1:51Speaker 2: things like just destructive activity around house. To see how
- 1:54Speaker 2: my understanding is the thirty seven houses that are uninhabitable,
- 1:58Speaker 2: some of those are affected by art, some affected just
- 2:01Speaker 2: by other damage imaging activities and between anything from your
- 2:05Speaker 2: sort of guessing, but you could imagine that between four
- 2:08Speaker 2: to five hundred people displaced from those residents, and so
- 2:12Speaker 2: they're dispersed throughout the community other houses, and some out
- 2:16Speaker 2: of the bush and some out on homelands and things
- 2:18Speaker 2: like that, some even in here in town in Darwen.
- 2:22Speaker 1: What a terrible situation. And I know that historically over
- 2:26Speaker 1: the years there has been issues out in the community
- 2:29Speaker 1: at different times. My parents used to live out there
- 2:31Speaker 1: quite some time ago. I know that we have obviously
- 2:35Speaker 1: seen that it's been reported that one man died, others
- 2:39Speaker 1: have been injured over the last few weeks. You said
- 2:44Speaker 1: that it was a little bit quieter last night, But
- 2:46Speaker 1: what is the feeling in the community at the moment.
- 2:50Speaker 2: People are tired, people are exhausted at there. We tends. Really,
- 2:56Speaker 2: you know, nobody, nobody, including the people that are perpetrating
- 3:01Speaker 2: the damage and the violence, wants to be in a
- 3:03Speaker 2: situation like that, and it's draining, it's debilitating for many people.
- 3:10Speaker 2: It's a shameful thing. So people feel ashamed that that
- 3:14Speaker 2: sort of thing occurs in the community and they feel helpless.
- 3:16Speaker 2: They don't want to see it happening, but they really
- 3:18Speaker 2: don't know what they can do themselves to make any difference.
- 3:22Speaker 1: Have you guys had to pull your staff out of
- 3:25Speaker 1: the area.
- 3:27Speaker 2: No, we have, And that's one thing. One thing I
- 3:29Speaker 2: was just listening to you just before you're called, and
- 3:33Speaker 2: just earlier this week, we did a bit of a
- 3:35Speaker 2: survey of our staff just from a safety perspective. Now
- 3:40Speaker 2: we employ over one hundred local Cardo employees and so
- 3:44Speaker 2: for those guys and ladies. It's very problematic. Often it's
- 3:48Speaker 2: family involved in the violence. Sometimes they themselves get dragged
- 3:52Speaker 2: into it, and they can be directly impacted by the
- 3:56Speaker 2: violence by what goes on. So in terms of their
- 3:58Speaker 2: safety and their ability to keep coming to work and
- 4:01Speaker 2: do their job, that's very much compromised for us as
- 4:05Speaker 2: outside as to the community that the disturbances are never
- 4:08Speaker 2: about us. It's not about us, it's not it's not
- 4:10Speaker 2: our business. It's not stuff that we ever need to
- 4:13Speaker 2: be involved in or put ourselves in the way of.
- 4:17Speaker 2: And so to that end, for the most part, we
- 4:20Speaker 2: had the reports we had back from our staff was
- 4:22Speaker 2: that there was no concern for their safety. Now that
- 4:26Speaker 2: that I need to be very clear. That's just that's
- 4:28Speaker 2: just for our services and our employees, and it's reasonable
- 4:32Speaker 2: to expect that that perception or that reality might be
- 4:35Speaker 2: different for other service providers and particularly in other roles.
- 4:39Speaker 2: You know, one of our main areas of concern, for example,
- 4:43Speaker 2: is around our age care service. So we have nurses
- 4:46Speaker 2: on shift. We do shift change at eleven o'clock the night.
- 4:49Speaker 2: We've been very fortunate we have a process in place
- 4:52Speaker 2: to support staff and shift change and make sure they
- 4:55Speaker 2: feel safe and the companied and things like that. But
- 4:58Speaker 2: you can imagine that our scenarios where risk is greater.
- 5:03Speaker 1: Yeah, what a terrible situation. I know that we are
- 5:08Speaker 1: fast running out of time. Unfortunately, I've got a head
- 5:11Speaker 1: to the national news, but I do still want to
- 5:12Speaker 1: ask you, do you have any idea at this point
- 5:15Speaker 1: if there's been much progress from those talks that involved well,
- 5:19Speaker 1: you know, I'm assuming and hoping the local elders, the council,
- 5:22Speaker 1: the police.
- 5:24Speaker 2: There's a lot of people, Katie around this that are
- 5:27Speaker 2: putting a lot of effort in and the police are
- 5:28Speaker 2: doing everything they can on the ground. We've met with
- 5:31Speaker 2: with ministers and things over the last couple of days.
- 5:33Speaker 2: There's a lot of effort going in. The key is
- 5:36Speaker 2: going to be long term, negotiated, mediated, strategic approach to this.
- 5:42Speaker 2: The short term stuff is terrible. The short term stuff
- 5:45Speaker 2: is what we deal with today and tomorrow. But the
- 5:47Speaker 2: answer to this is the long term strategy around listening
- 5:50Speaker 2: to people, supporting the growth of the region, investing in
- 5:53Speaker 2: the economy of the region, and helping organizations like ours,
- 5:56Speaker 2: the Council of the Store to let reach the local strength.
- 6:01Speaker 2: We have to make change and have the people themselves
- 6:03Speaker 2: need change, they can't do it without support.
- 6:05Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we might try and catch up with you
- 6:08Speaker 1: again in the coming days, Scott, to just get a
- 6:11Speaker 1: better idea of how things are going. Can I just ask,
- 6:14Speaker 1: do you have any idea how many extra police have
- 6:17Speaker 1: been deployed to the area and has that helped to
- 6:20Speaker 1: calm things down a bit?
- 6:23Speaker 2: So my understanding was that some extra police were in
- 6:26Speaker 2: over the last few days. The police on the ground
- 6:30Speaker 2: do a great job. They my personal view is that
- 6:32Speaker 2: they're under resource. That's just my view, So having extra
- 6:35Speaker 2: people there to support them going to be a good thing.
- 6:38Speaker 2: And reports I had from overnight was that there had
- 6:41Speaker 2: been a calmer knight. Now that's not to say there's
- 6:46Speaker 2: still not issues there, and remember that that response is
- 6:49Speaker 2: always going to be just the immediate create the sort
- 6:53Speaker 2: of stability and piece that's needed in the community to
- 6:55Speaker 2: then start repairing and start taking some strategic action. Would
- 7:00Speaker 2: be fully supportive of the presidence of the police and
- 7:03Speaker 2: other agencies on the ground to be there to engage
- 7:06Speaker 2: and listen to people and have people feel about, feel
- 7:10Speaker 2: heard and cared about, because that's a big part of this.
- 7:12Speaker 2: You know, you mentioned some of the callers mentioning area
- 7:15Speaker 2: this is a cover up. Well, there's no cover up.
- 7:18Speaker 2: It's not unusual for stories from places I want to
- 7:20Speaker 2: not get any attention because I've done a lot of
- 7:23Speaker 2: interest in it. Now, unfortunately this is occurring. One of
- 7:28Speaker 2: the byproducts of that occurring is that attention gets focused,
- 7:32Speaker 2: and we'd like to be able to hope that the
- 7:36Speaker 2: visit improves people's understanding. Were laudy about the issues that
- 7:39Speaker 2: people out their face and help us all support a
- 7:41Speaker 2: better outcome.
- 7:42Speaker 1: Well, Scott, I really appreciate you taking the time to
- 7:45Speaker 1: have a chat with us this morning. I'm sorry we've
- 7:46Speaker 1: got to leave it there. Thank you so much for speaking.
- 7:50Speaker 2: No way is it all.
- 7:51Speaker 1: Thank you