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- 0:00Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning. From Monday, November sixth, I'm your host,
- 0:03tom Or. The Michigan State game is in five days. The game
- 0:07against Michigan in nineteen days. Ohio State has successfully escaped yet another Big ten
- 0:13road test this weekend. They did it at Rutgers. They won thirty five
- 0:17sixteen, despite the Scarlet Knights holding a nine to seven halftime lead. One
- 0:21of the plays that helped turn that game around was a tipped pass by Josh
- 0:26Proctor that ended up in a pick six for Jordan Hancock. We're to be
- 0:30talking about that and a whole bunch of other stuff. We're going to be
- 0:32hearing directly from Ohio State head coach Ryan Day and Scarlet Knights head coach Greg
- 0:37Ciano about many, many of the big stories of that game. We're gonna
- 0:41start with Ryan Day talking about that huge play Josh Procter breaking up a pass,
- 0:47getting that ball knocked up in the air to lead to that Jordan Hancock
- 0:51pick six that really swung the game. Yeah, I think so, there
- 0:55was a point there in the second half we put the defense in a tough
- 0:58spot to situations where Rutgers gets the ball and plus territory and defense hung in
- 1:03there. I thought that was really big again, but the pick six certainly
- 1:07open things up. After a relatively healthy start to the season, injuries are
- 1:11starting to become a bigger and bigger story for this year's Ohio State team.
- 1:15This on Saturday, Caid Stover, the tight end, did not play.
- 1:19Mechabuka was back after having a couple of games where we were told, yeah,
- 1:23he might be able to play and then he didn't play. Kate Stover
- 1:26was not listed on the injury report, but then didn't play. He was
- 1:29held out sort of a coach's decision, like he could have played if they
- 1:32needed to. They didn't end up needing him too. But here was Ryan
- 1:34Day's discussion on what's going on with Cad Stover. He was available and you
- 1:40know, could have played, but we just felt like it wasn't the right
- 1:42thing to do for him. You know, you talk about, you know,
- 1:45one of the tougher guys that we've been around, you know, Ohio
- 1:48State in my time here. But you know he's going to say you can
- 1:51go, and you know it was a decision made to hold him back and
- 1:55we'll look forward to getting them back next week. If you have just gotten
- 1:57back to civilization after spending the last nine months or so out of internet and
- 2:04cell phone range, well I have some surprising news for you. The Ohio
- 2:07State defense is really sort of carrying this year's team while the offense sort of
- 2:13tries to figure some stuff out. Saturday against Rutgers, the defense once again
- 2:16really kept the Buckeyes in the game, especially during the first half. Here's
- 2:22Ryan Day talking about the defense really kind of having to carry the mail.
- 2:25Well, yeah, I mean it's uh, you know, it's a team
- 2:28game, but yeah, I mean the first half just just got some tough
- 2:31hanging in there, you know, in some bad spots and just those guys
- 2:37that are playing hard across the board, and we were down a couple of
- 2:39guys and you know this, you know the front and you know Tommy and
- 2:45you know the proc to make that play. I mean, you know,
- 2:47he poured it up in there on that one. He never he didn't break
- 2:50stride. And you know, Rutgers is physically you know, coming off of
- 2:54their buy. They were fresh and ready to go, and they played hard.
- 2:57They played as hard. So we've had multiple weeks now, you know,
- 3:00Penn State and Wisconsin and you know, and now these guys, you
- 3:04know, these have been physical weeks. But you know, our guys are
- 3:06playing hard, they're playing physical, and you know, we're playing good football
- 3:10down the stretch, and we're wearing teams down in the second half, But
- 3:13certainly we'd like to play better in the first half as a team. Well,
- 3:15Ohio States first half struggles definitely have been annoying and probably a little concerning
- 3:21to Ohio State fans. The way the Buckeyes have played in the second half
- 3:23that has been no problem at all. So what's the deal? Are they
- 3:27wearing teams down in the second half? Why are they so much better in
- 3:30the second half of these games? No, I think that that is a
- 3:35part of it. I think we are doing that, But but I also
- 3:38think, you know, when you just look at the overall consistency, you
- 3:43know, I think early on, you know, they were playing us in
- 3:46a two high shell. You know, they they dropped the safeties real deep
- 3:49and put clouds on both sides to you know, take that part away.
- 3:53And so we kind of recognized that at halftime and realized, you know,
- 3:55we got to be patient enough to run the ball all the way down the
- 3:58field and you know, I think you know they're there. You know,
- 4:01you have to ask Greg, but their philosophy is probably, well, they
- 4:04think I have patient enough to run the ball all the way down the field
- 4:06and take it and you know, take the receivers out of the game,
- 4:10which is sort of what happened. But then you know, we also,
- 4:14uh you know, have to check the ball out and get to take some
- 4:15of the underneath underneath stuff that Kyle ended up doing a little bit in the
- 4:18second half. I thought we could have recognized that and done a better job
- 4:20early on, but we did in the second half, all right. In
- 4:24the interest of fairness and balance here we talked about the good news about the
- 4:27second half. We got to talk about the first half. All right,
- 4:29you can figure it out in the second half. So what the heck is
- 4:30going on that this team keeps getting off the slow starts, especially on offense
- 4:35in the first half of games. Well, I think we got where we
- 4:38play against good defenses. It was good to get you know, right down
- 4:41the field and get that touchdown the g early on. That was good.
- 4:45But then just you know, a couple of tough, tough drives in there,
- 4:46and it all it takes is you know, to be off a little
- 4:48bit and then you're punting, so you know, and and the run game
- 4:53takes time. You know, you have to wear teams down with the run
- 4:56game. But we'll look at the film and keep swinging exactly right. Yeah,
- 5:00I just you know, when you get him to the second level,
- 5:01he's dangerous. And once he gets out in the open field, I mean
- 5:04those are those are good to great fast and I think the check down one
- 5:08for sixty some odd yards there. And so, like we said, he
- 5:12is a mismatch and a very explosive player. The Buckeyes are now one to
- 5:15oh in November. They are nine to oh on the season, just three
- 5:19more regular season games to go. If they can win those, they'll be
- 5:21twelve to oh go to the Big Ten championship game. But coming off the
- 5:26field against Rutgers again, there's still a lot of stuff to work about.
- 5:29So how did Ryan Day feel walking off that field? What was he thinking
- 5:33about as he was walking off that field after a thirty five to sixteen win
- 5:38over Rutgers. Well, I feel like, you know, this team finds
- 5:42a way. They don't panic, They you know, keep swinging, they
- 5:46keep fighting, and you know, we've been, you know, halftime of
- 5:51these field, these games, and we've said we want to play better in
- 5:54the second half this year. That was a huge part of our offseason and
- 5:56you're seeing that. And again I keep saying, you know, we could
- 5:59play better in the first half so that we don't have to be in these
- 6:00situations. But the number one goal is to win games, and you know
- 6:03we're gonna continue to do that, and we have to take care of the
- 6:05ball on offense. You know, I thought we had an opportunity in two
- 6:09minutes to kind of work the ball down the field there and and I thought
- 6:12Kyle made a nice read. It was actually the will linebacker made the play.
- 6:14We just got to get the ball up over that that would have given
- 6:15us an opportunity to get some points. But but again, I thought we
- 6:19did respond well in the second half. So we'll watch the film and keep
- 6:21growing and keep keep grinding on this thing. I mean, you're in the
- 6:25meat of it. So every time you you go on the road back to
- 6:28back weeks, you know, physical weeks, you know you have to bring
- 6:30it. And it isn't just you're just gonna roll your helmets out there and
- 6:33think you're gonna win a game. It doesn't work that way, and I
- 6:35think our guys understand that and finishing. You got to finish, yeah,
- 6:41exactly, because you just nonmember all how these games are gonna go and you
- 6:43got to be able to respond to whatever comes your way. So you know,
- 6:46and that's that's what championship teams do. They continue week after week to
- 6:50have the stamina to find a way to win. And so yeah, here
- 6:56we go on to Week ten. This year's Ohighsted offense is not going to
- 6:59be confused with any of the recent vintages of C. J. Stroud or
- 7:02Justin Field, at least not yet. But it does seem like by and
- 7:06large, there's been progress. The offensive line has been better, the running
- 7:12game, especially since the return of Traveon Henderson, has been way better,
- 7:15and the play of Marvin Harrison has been pretty darn consistent throughout the year.
- 7:19So is the offense now really starting to come together as Travon Henderson and Marvin
- 7:24Harrison sort of take central roles with it. Yeah, and you know,
- 7:29we didn't have kid today and that that doesn't matter. But I got to
- 7:31give g Scott and pack Ard some credit for stepping in and you know,
- 7:35Kate has shouldered a lot of you know, snaps here the last couple of
- 7:39years, and so for those guys to step up and play well, I
- 7:44think they played well. At least it seemed like it was good. But
- 7:47but yeah, you know, you'd like to see, you know, again
- 7:51early on some better third down conversions. I think we might have been over
- 7:55in the first half. I'm not sure exactly what it was, but then
- 7:57we ended up six to twelve, so we must have been better in the
- 7:59second. Is that what it was? Yeah, Yeah, and that was
- 8:01a big part of it, because we weren't finishing the drives, you know,
- 8:03and and third down is such a huge deal, and so we did
- 8:07do a better job on third down and that made a difference. So,
- 8:11uh, situational football is critical. But yes, I think when you know,
- 8:15for instance, in this game, we recognized that they were in a
- 8:16twohigh shell. They were going to try to take away the outside. We
- 8:18had to run the football and be you know, patient enough to work the
- 8:22ball down the field on a couple of those drives, and that's what happened.
- 8:26But but the have to answer your question. You know, you're starting
- 8:28to see all that you know, you know get on the field together,
- 8:31love to get Kid back so we can really be at full strength. We
- 8:35can't let this show end without letting you hear a little bit from Rutgers head
- 8:39coach Greg Ciano. We always get good numbers when we have the visiting or
- 8:43opposing coach's press conference up. I think there's a little bit a lot of
- 8:46interest in what the opposing coach said, and that's probably especially true of Ciano,
- 8:50who has obviously ties to the Ohio State program, having been a former
- 8:54defensive coordinator in Columbus for a couple of years, and has just done a
- 8:58remarkable job for the second time building the Rutgers program just out of the ashes
- 9:03and turning them into a really legitimate pain in the butt kind of mid tier
- 9:07Big Ten team. After that game, you're gonna this is a little unusual
- 9:13for Shiana. It felt like he sort of had to compose himself of it
- 9:16at least once or twice. It seemed like it was an emotional game for
- 9:20him, because man, they have built that program from nothing into something very
- 9:24real, and they had a chance to knock off the number one team in
- 9:28the college football playoff rankings on Saturday. Here with Shiano sort of immediate thoughts
- 9:31on the game for those guys down there in that locker room. But as
- 9:35I told them, the way they worked and the way they prepared and all
- 9:41that and the way they played doesn't guarantee anything. It just gives you a
- 9:45chance. But we're now giving ourselves a chance, and we're just not quite
- 9:50ready yet, I guess to finish it. But that's Sun's gonna come up
- 10:03tomorrow. We're gonna keep working and we're gonna get better and we'll eventually get
- 10:09there, and I won't have to say yet. And that's me, and
- 10:11it's the staff and it's the players to everybody. But I'm proud of our
- 10:16guys, proud of our staff. We're gonna keep getting better. This is
- 10:20the flip side of the Ryan Day answer on the Josh Proctor tip and Jordan
- 10:26Hancock pick six. On the Rutger side, they had ohios DD on their
- 10:30heels, they had the lead in the third quarter, they had driven down
- 10:33into the red zone, and then you had that pick six that changed everything.
- 10:37What was Giano's thought on that play call and how that all shook out?
- 10:41Yeah, and if it works, it's the greatest call and we're up.
- 10:45It would have been sixteen to seven at that point, right, same
- 10:48thing with the sneak play that got handed to Kyle that did work. You
- 10:54got to be willing to try stuff in a game where you know that it
- 10:58is they're good to Yet we didn't go crazy with ahole bunch of stuff because
- 11:03I felt we could do it just what we did. We could run the
- 11:05football if we stuck to it. Kyle m Nung, guy in the offensive
- 11:09line, thought they ran the Bullhardt, Gavin ran the bullhard. Sam got
- 11:13in there, he ran the bullhard. So yep. One of the reasons
- 11:18Rutgers was close but no cigar on Saturday was they kept getting the ball close
- 11:22to the Ohio State goal line. Six trips to the red zone but only
- 11:28one touchdown. Those red zone failures were a big part of why Rutgers had
- 11:33an impressive game but a losing game. I mean, some of it was
- 11:37execution, some of it was they're really good. You know, they're number
- 11:45one in the country. They have one of the top defenses in the country.
- 11:48You know, we went out there and did things that other people haven't
- 11:52done to them, but it wasn't good enough. You know, that's why
- 11:54I said, it's yet. There's a lot of great things, and we
- 11:56watched that tape, so, oh my goodness, look at that. That's
- 12:00good players you're doing it against. But we just not ready yet. Ohio
- 12:07State fans have spent a lot of this fall sort of recalibrating their expectations in
- 12:09terms of defense that the Ohio State defense is. You know, thirty points
- 12:15is no longer a norm for Ohio State to allow that. Twenty points is
- 12:18not really a norm for Ohio State to allow that. What does it mean
- 12:22on the Rutgers side to watch the Rutgers defense hold Ohio State to just thirty
- 12:26one points after so many years of scores in the forties and fifties. We're
- 12:31getting better on defense, We're getting better on offense. We're getting better in
- 12:33a kicking game. Those two receivers are both first round draft picks, okay,
- 12:41and I think they were held to something like fifty some odd yards together,
- 12:45both of them. Those are two first round draft picks, I think
- 12:48our kids. But again, for us to win that game, we had
- 12:50to be dorned near perfect, and we weren't. I wasn't. The players,
- 12:54weren't, our coaches weren't so we'll keep battling away. But there's nobody
- 12:58that saying, oh, that was a good close up. You know.
- 13:01No, no, no, there's two things. There's winning and there's losing.
- 13:05There's only two things that happened in a game. And finally, for
- 13:09Shiano and the Knights, they rushed for more yards. They were more than
- 13:13two hundred yards on the ground for Rutgers, first time anyone has done that
- 13:16against the Ohio State defense. The fact that they were able to run the
- 13:20ball that way against what has been a really good Ohio State rush defense,
- 13:24that feels like a sure sign of progress for the Scarlet Knights. I think
- 13:28it's one of the signs. I think there's a lot of signs. The
- 13:33way that we played defense today we've played all season, the way that we
- 13:37ran the ball, but we also gave up a pick six. So there's
- 13:41a lot of signs good and not so good. But we're getting better.
- 13:46I don't know how to put it other than we're not there yet. We're
- 13:50working progress. We're getting better. We're just not there against the number one
- 13:54team in the country. Not quite yet, and we have to you know,
- 13:56you can't say, well, we're going to get there. You got
- 14:00to go make yourself get there. So that's what we'll do. We'll come
- 14:03back in this room, we'll be honest with each other tomorrow, and those
- 14:05kids love each other, those coaches love those kids, and we're just going
- 14:09to keep going and Benchi, we're going to get there. Shiano was not
- 14:13always the most popular defensive coordinator in Ohio State history. The guy who was
- 14:18his co defensive coordinator one year when he was with the Buckeyes, Alex Grinch,
- 14:22Well, he was fired on Sunday after another debacle for USC over the
- 14:26weekend, a fifty two to forty two loss to Washington. So a couple
- 14:30of Ohio State former defensive coordinators in the news this weekend. Both lost.
- 14:35I think one feeling a lot better about his loss than the other one.
- 14:39But we'll be talking to the current Ohio State defensive coordinator, Jim Knowles on
- 14:41Tuesday along with Ryan Day as we start to wind things towards this week's upcoming
- 14:46home game against Michigan State that is a primetime game in the Horseshoe. Should
- 14:52be a fun evening as the Buckeyes now just three games away from potentially winning
- 14:56the Big Ten East and earning a spot in the Big Ten Championship Game.
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