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162. [Alabama] The Murder of Tracie Hawlett and JB Beasley · Bless This Mess: A Southern True Crime Podcast

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  Speaker 1: get into this because it is late, because we try
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  Speaker 1: to quiet time, and it didn't work out the other day.
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  Speaker 1: So now here we are at ten thirty at night
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  Speaker 1: on a school night, and I need to get to bed,
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  Speaker 1: so we're gonna start her on up, all right, On
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  Speaker 1: August first, nineteen ninety nine, police in Dothan, Alabama, receive
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  Speaker 1: a call from a woman saying that her teenage daughter
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  Speaker 1: and her friend did not come home that the night before.
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  Speaker 1: Her daughter's name was Tracy Hallett and her friend's name
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  Speaker 1: was j. B. Beasley. Now. The woman stated that her daughter,
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  Speaker 1: Tracy had called her the night before around eleven forty
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  Speaker 1: five pm, asking if she could stay out a little longer,
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  Speaker 1: and her mother's like, absolutely not.
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  Speaker 2: It's eleven forty at home.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it says, she needed to come home straight away
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  Speaker 1: and uh, no more staying out. So well, as the
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  Speaker 1: mom is waiting for a daughter to come home, she
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  Speaker 1: falls asleep, and so that's when she wakes up in
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  Speaker 1: the morning, she realizes that the girls aren't there, and
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  Speaker 1: she goes into a full on panic and calls police. Now,
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  Speaker 1: investigators head to the woman's house to ask about Tracy
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  Speaker 1: and JB's movements from the night before, and she said
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  Speaker 1: that she called from a payphone whenever she called and said,
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  Speaker 1: because this was this is nineteen ninety nine, guys, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I know shocking, there's no cell phones.
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  Speaker 2: There was like a jive dollars a minute.
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  Speaker 1: Then yeah, so she calls from this that she called
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  Speaker 1: from a payphone that was about thirty minutes from the house,
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  Speaker 1: and so investigators are like, okay, well, then they should
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  Speaker 1: have been home no later than like twelve fifteen, twelve
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  Speaker 1: thirty at the latest, and so they had been out
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  Speaker 1: that evening for JB's birthday on July thirty first. The
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  Speaker 1: girls were both seventeen years old.
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  Speaker 2: Police immediately put a bolo out Cara that'd be on
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  Speaker 2: the lookout for both girls as they are underage and
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  Speaker 2: are officially missing. That begins speaking to JB and Tracy's
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  Speaker 2: friends to find out what they were supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: doing and where they were supposed to be at. Now,
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  Speaker 2: what they found out was they were supposed to go
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  Speaker 2: to a party that another friend was putting on for
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  Speaker 2: JB's birthday, but neither girl showed up to that party,
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  Speaker 2: so no one had seen them since they left Tracy's home. Together.
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  Speaker 2: With the bolow going on, they have several police departments
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  Speaker 2: in the area that are looking for the girls. This
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  Speaker 2: is when an Ozark police department calls in that they
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  Speaker 2: have found Tracy's Mazda. Police arrive on the scene and
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  Speaker 2: find the car with the doors unlocked and the windows
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  Speaker 2: rolled down. They found Tracy's purse in the car, as
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  Speaker 2: well as JB's driver's license. They start searching the vehicle
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  Speaker 2: and that's when they come to the trunk. They opened
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  Speaker 2: the trunk and they find the two girls are deceased
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  Speaker 2: inside the trunk. The girls were lying crawled up next
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  Speaker 2: to each other with their hands by their faces, indicating
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  Speaker 2: that they knew they were about to be murdered. One
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  Speaker 2: girl was shot in the temple and the other one
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  Speaker 2: was shot through her cheek.
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  Speaker 1: So police after finding this in the people, the detectives
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  Speaker 1: that spoke about this, this still like this what they said,
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  Speaker 1: this was like a very traumatizing too, because it's like
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  Speaker 1: in the this the horror movies or the thrillers, and
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  Speaker 1: they come to the trunk and they're just like hoping,
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  Speaker 1: like please don't let them be in the trunk, and
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  Speaker 1: then here they both were. So they begin to process
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  Speaker 1: the crime scene and they find a nine millimeter shell
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  Speaker 1: casing in the trunk. They also noticed that the girl's
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  Speaker 1: clothes were wet and muddy. But they're looking around at
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  Speaker 1: the area where the girls were found, where the car
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  Speaker 1: was found, and that area was not didn't like the
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't it was dry like, there wasn't any There
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't be any reason why the clothes were muddy. So
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  Speaker 1: this indicated to the police that they had been taken
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  Speaker 1: somewhere else before being placed in the trunk and moved
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  Speaker 1: to this area. They looked in the area around the
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  Speaker 1: vehicle and was in kind of a It was next
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  Speaker 1: to a road, but there was a bunch of wooded
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  Speaker 1: areas around it. But there was no indication that the
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  Speaker 1: crime or they're either only that's where the bodies were dropped.
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  Speaker 1: They also found other evidence that the car had been
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  Speaker 1: moving after the girls had been murdered. So the detectives
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  Speaker 1: got underneath there. They're looking at the drain plugs from
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  Speaker 1: the trunk and so there's blood dripping out on the ground. Well,
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  Speaker 1: they can also see that the blood had been blown
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  Speaker 1: on the back of the car, indicating that the girls
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  Speaker 1: had been shot and then the car was driven afterwards. Now,
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  Speaker 1: in terms of forensic evidence on the car, there was
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  Speaker 1: a partial pomprint on the driver's side above the door,
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  Speaker 1: and then later on an autopsy would reveal that there
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  Speaker 1: was indications of rape and DNA found in JB's underw
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  Speaker 1: just JB.
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  Speaker 2: Well, now that the investigators have found the girls, they
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  Speaker 2: need to retrace their steps to try and figure out
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  Speaker 2: who could have done this to them. One of the
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  Speaker 2: last places the police knew that they were at was
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  Speaker 2: at the payphone at the gas station. So they head
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  Speaker 2: to the gas station. They're able to get some security
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  Speaker 2: footage of the girls on the telephone. Now, back then,
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  Speaker 2: security footage you got like a multiplexer. You got these
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  Speaker 2: six sixteen cameras or eight cameras plugged into the thing
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  Speaker 2: because it switches, so it records like a millisecond of
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  Speaker 2: each camera. So that's why when you're watching that old stuff,
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  Speaker 2: they're like four or three or four.
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  Speaker 1: Bas like pictures instead of because whenever they're stream of
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  Speaker 1: a video.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the old pictures you're not going to see
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  Speaker 2: because like in the nine one to one conspiracy stuff
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  Speaker 2: where they set a missile was shot and they couldn't
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  Speaker 2: see the airplane coming in because there was no airplane
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  Speaker 2: on the camera.
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  Speaker 1: You mean nine to eleven, Yes, okay, you said nine
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  Speaker 1: one one, like like the phone number. Anyway, Well, it's
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  Speaker 1: a bit confusing.
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  Speaker 2: Because because the the multiplexer records.
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  Speaker 1: Each Why I didn't know you were into conspiracy theories.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. I'm saying that there was probably
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  Speaker 2: a plane, but because of the.
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  Speaker 1: A seven hundred probably a plane.
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  Speaker 2: A seven hundred mile an hour plane is moving faster
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  Speaker 2: than faster than the video can be recorded in the
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  Speaker 2: milliseconds because it's going from each camera. And that's because
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  Speaker 2: if you've got camera is on the other side of
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  Speaker 2: the building that are recording, it could be recording those
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  Speaker 2: and then come back to the front cameras.
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  Speaker 1: Well. We all know. The only you know, the only
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  Speaker 1: conspiracy theory I'm into right now is DoorDash.
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  Speaker 2: Oh. Yes, I've had to hear about the door ash.
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  Speaker 1: I've done. I've I've been thoroughly upset by the door
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  Speaker 1: dash girl, if anybody knows what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, on these all multiplexus.
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  Speaker 1: I'll discuss and shoot the poos so I can get
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  Speaker 1: my feelings out Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you get your feels out there. So anyway, that's
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  Speaker 2: what the multiplex are back in the day did with
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  Speaker 2: the cameras whenever they have eight, eight, sixteen channel things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was the issue with this is that
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  Speaker 1: not the issue? But like when you look at the video,
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  Speaker 1: it's not a salt like a fluid thing. It's just
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  Speaker 1: pictures of the girls. So they be standing right here
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  Speaker 1: and then they're turned and then there's another picture to turn,
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  Speaker 1: but they get.
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  Speaker 2: Stayed away from where they were, but they can still.
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  Speaker 1: Get an it. They got an image and could see
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  Speaker 1: that it was the girls.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so since the security it in a constant train,
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  Speaker 2: as I explained, probably on Streme. Probably Streme well Stream.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know. It might be a technical term.
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  Speaker 2: We don't I might be having a stroke. We don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It's just like almost picture flashes because of the way
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  Speaker 2: I explained it poorly. Possibly in the video you can
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  Speaker 2: see they're talking to two other women that were getting
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  Speaker 2: gas at the time. The gas station attendant said the
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  Speaker 2: girls never came inside and that he never spoke to them. Now,
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  Speaker 2: with this information, they put this out to the public
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  Speaker 2: and the woman who spoke to the girls that night
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  Speaker 2: came forward. It was her and she was with her daughter,
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  Speaker 2: and she said that the girls were upset because they
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  Speaker 2: were trying to locate an outdoor party and that they
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  Speaker 2: got lost. So they were talking to the other women
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  Speaker 2: trying to get directions, and that's when they were concerned
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  Speaker 2: because at this point they're missing the party that was
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be for Jabe's birthday and now they're about
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  Speaker 2: to miss their curfew and get in trouble. And that's
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  Speaker 2: why she's calling her because she's like, hey, I want
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  Speaker 2: to stay out more so.
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  Speaker 1: I can try to find at the least the tail
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  Speaker 1: end of this party that was for my birthday. And
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  Speaker 1: they're like, no, no, you need to fear out how
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  Speaker 1: to come home and get home.
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  Speaker 2: The woman said the girls were looking for directions to
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  Speaker 2: get back to Dothan, so she told them how to
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  Speaker 2: get there, and that was the last thing she told
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  Speaker 2: talk to him about. They did retrace the directions that
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  Speaker 2: the woman gave to see if there were any additional
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  Speaker 2: clues that they could find.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that turned up to be nothing. And the
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  Speaker 1: woman was telling that like the woman and the daughter,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't have anything to do with so they was
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  Speaker 1: they just happened to be the last people that they
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  Speaker 1: spoke to. And I believe they even had like a
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  Speaker 1: little they showed like the drawing of the girls. They
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  Speaker 1: had like a map like it looked like you know,
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  Speaker 1: high school students had drawn like a map, like hey,
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  Speaker 1: here's the woods and the road and here's where the
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  Speaker 1: party is and they're trying to locate that based on
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  Speaker 1: just that?
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  Speaker 2: Was it the map like an idiocracy where he wrote
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  Speaker 2: you are here and then he drew a line to
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  Speaker 2: the time machine.
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  Speaker 1: No, Stu, anyways, it's not like today over He's like
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  Speaker 1: drop a pin on, get dropping no pins? You got
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  Speaker 1: to stop at the station.
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  Speaker 2: If the satellites go out, people are screwed. They a't
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  Speaker 2: gonna be able to read a map or get around.
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  Speaker 1: No. I don't know what any I barely know what
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  Speaker 1: the street names are that I drive on on a
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  Speaker 1: day to day basis. I have no clue what this
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  Speaker 1: road is out here that we like. I know the
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  Speaker 1: name of the street, but this highway or whatever that's here,
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  Speaker 1: I have no clue what number that is. Wow, I
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  Speaker 1: have absolutely zero.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what the number is.
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  Speaker 1: Name, and then we're screwed.
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  Speaker 2: I know the name of it.
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  Speaker 1: You know the name of the highway or what?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, then I know the name of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know the number.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's a number. Yeah, So it's a highway number.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know. So you're lost to So I'm not alone.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I could ask where that highway was, and then
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  Speaker 2: I get there.
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  Speaker 1: But you'd have to hope you can ask somebody else
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  Speaker 1: who knew was paying attention.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody in this area knows whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Now at this point, word is getting out in the
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  Speaker 1: community about this horrific crime, and as you can imagine,
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  Speaker 1: everybody's very upset and on high alert because these girls.
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  Speaker 1: This isn't like something where somebody knew somebody somebody just
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  Speaker 1: came across these girls and did this. This is not
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  Speaker 1: this chance. Yeah, this is not. So you've got a
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  Speaker 1: predator on the loose at this point. Now, with it
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  Speaker 1: being such a publicized murder, the governor got involved and
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  Speaker 1: he's trying to get the word out. He ask anybody
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  Speaker 1: if they have any more information. They put on a
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  Speaker 1: reward for any information. I think it was like ten
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars or something. And so with all this additional
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  Speaker 1: coverage and the reward money specifically made available, they had
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  Speaker 1: a young man come in named Johnny Baranteine. Now he
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  Speaker 1: was saying that he had witnessed the murder. And he's
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  Speaker 1: a young guy. I think he was like a he
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  Speaker 1: was married, but he was like still a teenager, like
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  Speaker 1: nineteen years old. Or something like that. He told investigators
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  Speaker 1: that he picked up a stranger on the side of
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  Speaker 1: the road. Then they're driving around. They see the girls
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  Speaker 1: at the gas station and decided to follow them from there.
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  Speaker 1: The stranger got out of the car and approached the
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  Speaker 1: girls whenever they stopped at some point, and then he
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  Speaker 1: followed them. He followed, he got in the car with
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  Speaker 1: the girls, the stranger, and so the guy, the Johnny guy,
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  Speaker 1: drove in his vehicle behind the Mazda, and then that's
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  Speaker 1: when he watched the stranger murder the two girls. He said.
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  Speaker 1: Then the stranger drove the Mazda with the two girls
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  Speaker 1: in it and parked it where the police found it.
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  Speaker 1: And then Johnny took the stranger and dropped him off someplace.
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  Speaker 1: So he just knows him by the stranger. He doesn't
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  Speaker 1: know what this person's name is.
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  Speaker 2: So Johnny's an idiot. Basically, what do you mean You're
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  Speaker 2: gonna follow him, watch him murder these girls some guy
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  Speaker 2: you don't know, and you're gonna go, Okay, hop in,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: let's go. I'll go where you need to go. No,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: you'll watch that. If you're not gonna save the girls
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: or you can't, then you just drive off.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, well let me finish this and then you'll see this.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: So Johnny's an idiot, is what I'm saying.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, if this really happened, then Johnny's an idiot.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, So one way or another, Johnny is an idiot.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Remember the ten thousand dollars reward or another, Johnny is
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: an idiot. So after he tells his story, he asked
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: about the reward money and thought that the police were
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: just going to give him the money and he was
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: going to go about his day, his day to day.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: You know, they're like, they're like, dude, you just put
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: yourself at the scene of a murder, double murder, Like
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: that's not you're an access now, Yes, you actually you
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: didn't say like I saw this and I didn't actually
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: see him murdering, but I just saw the man. You know,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: you didn't say that. You said you basically took the
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: man with them, followed the car and watched all this happen,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: and then took aid it and ambedded a criminal. Yes,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: so they arrest his dumbass. They should arrest him for
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: other things too, but just being stupid. So after he's arrested,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: you know, he gets a lawyer, and his story starts
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: to change, and then this is when they quickly were
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: he has made this entire thing up because his wife
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: even was like he was home that night, like at
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: eleven thirty when all this was happening, and she wasn't
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: trying to like his ex wife.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: I hope with no children, I hope it didn't.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Johnny is in jail now, I think for other reasons. Anyways,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: So this really put a halt on the investigation. The
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: public lost a lot of faith in the police department.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: It was a huge detour from looking for the real
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: person who did this because now they've got because they
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: waste a lot of time befo all job. Yes, and
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: so this incident with Johnny wasn't the only time that
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: this happened. The investigator said that this happened dozen, like
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: dozens of people come forward and it was something that
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: they had never really seen before that. I mean, you
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: hear like one or two people doing something like that,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: but he said there was probably forty to fifty people
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: came forward saying they were involved with this somehow and
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: it was all lies. They just wanted to be It
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: was such a high profile case, like with the governor
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: talking about it is just as.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Big just wanted to be involved in that, just wanted.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: To be part of the conversation. So they just implicated themselves.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: In a I don't even understand these people.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: No, I don't either, I have no clue. So anyway,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: so it caused a lot of confusion. It caused a
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: lot of confusion in the public. It cat los confusion
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: in terms of the investigation and things quick, things went cold,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: like it was just a it was just a clusterfuck. Basically.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I can see that now after going through these several
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: false leads and no new evidence coming to light. The
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: case had been called for seventeen years at this point,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: they really do believe that it's going to be one
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: of the harder cases to solve because it appears that
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: the girls just came across a stranger he saw an opportunity,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: and well, these.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Are the hardest ones to solve because there's no connection.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: It's just a random person that found these girls in
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: the middle of the night.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: And unlet's say he leaves a business card at the
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: murder saying.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: It's okay too, wow, what well he did leave some
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: business card, he left his DNA, Well.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Betty didn't think that they were going to
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: be able to track him down when he did that. No, Now,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: the best bet they had was, of course, the DNA
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: evidence technology had developed, and at this point it is
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: now twenty sixteen and they're starting to look at genetic genealogy, as.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Has been the theme for our Listen, let me tell.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: You you, like the third or fourth one in a row.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Listen to you motherfuckers out there thinking about doing a
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: crime and killing somebody or raping somebody. They are going
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: to catch your ass.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, even if you've been dead for fifty years now, Yes.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: If you're listening to this podcast, just no, don't do it,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: because they will catch you. Somebody in your family has
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: because it doesn't even have to be anyone close to
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: you now, just someone in some long line of huge
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: family has given their DNA and it's out there in
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: the world.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, they will find you. And what's that taking guy saying,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: I will find you? I guess, so whenever he's talking
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: to him on.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: The M I will find you. I'm assuming he said.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: That whenever the girl, whenever he's talking to his daughter,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: and then the kidnapper picks up the phone.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know. That's not his famous line from the movie.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: His famous line is I have a particular set of skills,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. Well, I'm sure at some point
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: he said I will find you.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: I don't remember. It's been it's been a minute since
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I watched.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Not the famous line from the movie. That's just probably
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: something he said. Probably I will find you and I
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: will kill you.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Probably is what he's possibly. Yes, yes, I think the
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: last time I watched that was before I'm at You.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's been a while.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: And I was going to Europe and you're like, have
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: you seen that movie?
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Take it? Don't get taken now. Over the next few years,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: they run this DNA and they work on the genetic
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: genealogy with the same lab that solved the Golden State
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: killer case.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, and if you'll recall every one of these that
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: we've done, this is not a quick thing that they
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: have to do. It's there's only a few, I think
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: companies that specialize and this type of in this Parabond
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Labs is one of the the ones. But it takes years.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it takes years for them to track all of
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: this down. This isn't a quick fix. It whatsoever. They
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: don't just put it in and be like, oh, we
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: know you know o Joe down road.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Now, by twenty eighteen, they had narrowed it down to
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: believe in it was someone with the last name of
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: McCraney or in that family. This was again due to
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: the JED Match, where someone from that family had put
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: in their DNA into the public database.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that jet that GED match or whatever. That's
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: that big public game Jed COUM or whatever, and that's
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: that's where they got the Golden State Killer two was
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: the JED match.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Police began bringing in people from that family, and one
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: of those people was a fellow by the name of
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Cole McCraney. When they initially brought him in, he was
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: hesitantant to give his DNA, but his wife encouraged him
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: to do so so that they could help close this
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: case out.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like, Cole, you got to give the DNA
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: like this is this could really help you know, fight
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: figure out who would do this horrific.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: This can eliminate you so they can quit bothering us.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Well, no, it wasn't about elimonade. She she would have
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: never It was because when they approached him. They're not
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: looking saying you're a suspect. They're saying, hey, we think
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: it's someone maybe related to you. Can you help us out.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: It's the same thing in that one where the mom
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: got mad because she gave her DNA yeah, and it
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: pointed to her son or whatever. And then she's like,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: they lied to me, and I'm like, bitch, I don't care.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, not really. Now little did the wife. No, he
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: was the actual person who did it, so the DNA
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: wasn't exact, wasn't exact match to old Cole McCraney.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Now, Cole was brought in for questioning, and of course
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: he denies knowing girls yes saw him, and having any
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: involvement with the crime whatsoever. Now, they did find out
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: that he lived within a mile of where the girls
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: were found at the time of the murders, and at
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: this point he is like, he's not admitting to anything.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: So they since he won't open up to him, they're like, okay,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: well here's our trump card. We have your DNA evidence
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: and it matches exactly. And he still denies any involvement.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: And that's when he's like, hey, I need an attorney
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: and everything. So he's arrested in March of twenty nineteen
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: and charged with the murders and the rape. He pled
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: not guilty to all charges. Now, when looking into Cole,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: he would have been like completely if they just had
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: to rely on old fashioned police.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Like just going down of suspects.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he would have never been on anybody's radar. He
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: would have never been on any suspect list or anything
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: because at the time, so when he was arrested, he
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: was around forty five years old and he was a
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: truck driver. So he was a truck driver that did
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: live about a mile from where the girls were found.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: So that might be a little I mean, not to
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: put down not to put down truck drivers.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: But I'll but they know that they can be good.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Serial killer.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: The Happy Face Killer.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: The one that was driving up and down the road
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: and murdering Well, there's that.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: There's what's that The I five killer?
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Oh that was uh yeah, that was out in California.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because that was the one I remember the I
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: think that was the one where the ladies or the
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: was like cleaning an office building and he broke in
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: killed her or anything. But the Happy Face Killer, I
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: believe is also and he used to leave a halfy
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: happy face. I believe he was a truck driver. Not
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: say anything bad. Truck drivers are great, Okay, they get
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: us all of our goods, all our goods, so we
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: appreciate you.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Just my neighbor was a truck driver.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Just my neighbor was a truck driver.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: To Stu, Well, yeah, you were my wife and we
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: lived next to each other.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: We weren't we remarried in that house? Oh yeah, because
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: we had the baby. Okay, yeah, we've been married for
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: quite some times. What no, do we've moved a lot. Okay. Anyways,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: he was a truck driver and lived a man a
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: mile away. But he was also like a pastor or
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: very involved with his church. He ran like a ministry
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: and everything. He had served in the military, and he
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: had zero criminal history, Like there was nothing that would
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: have pointed them to even.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Be on a line. A traffic ticket, now, well.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know if traffic tickets to or a criminal
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: history criminal.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: You can get a criminal speeding ticket.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Oh come on, st Anyways, he uh, you're so annoying
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: reckless driving for speed? Okay, he didn't have anything for reckless.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Driving fifty five in the school zone.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so Anyways, what I was trying to say, for
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: you interrupt me before I forgot.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no criminal history.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: He would have been so he's forty five, so he
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: would have been around twenty three when this all happened. No,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: twenty eight, he would have been twenty eight dish, Yeah,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: because it would have been almost No, it's right at
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: twenty years to twenty eighteen, so he would have been
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: twenty five whenever.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking seventeen.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Twenty five, twenty six, somewhere in that that age range.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: So after all of the back and forth, after he's
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: rested in March of twenty nineteen, the trial actually begins
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: in April twenty twenty three. And there was some sort
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: of there was something special about this case. I don't
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: know if it was the years that this happened or
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: the type or whatever, but the Attorney General himself had
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: to be the lead attorney and try the case.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Like the attorney general of the state.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, really, yes, I don't know, because.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: There was some corruption or something going on, in doubt,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: and some good old ball maybe not corruption, but some
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: conflict to interest. But that wouldn't make it everybody.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: No, but that would even be even if that were
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: the case that wouldn't require the actual attorney general because
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: he even he got on there and he said he's
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: like the attorney general doesn't go to court.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: And like he just directs his attorneys.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: So whenever they said that, I started thinking about that
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: because like, you have to really be careful than who
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: you're picking as your attorney general estate because I see
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: them more of a political because they are elected, yes,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: but like do they you better make sure they know
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: what the fuck they're doing because next thing you know,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: they might be like the lead attorney on a double
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: murder homicide. Yes, so so so on top of it
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: being just a high profile case that was unsolved for
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: twenty years, now we have the Attorney General himself going
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: in and being the lead prosecutor. And off top of that,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: it's a death penalty case. To be death penalty or
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: life in prison were the options. And then on top
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: of that, which we never really have anymore, is the
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: actual guy took the stand, the Cole mc craney. He
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: took the stand in his yes, in his own defense,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: which hardly they ever hardly get up there and test
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: so anyway, so they have this. The Attorney General did
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: speak about how it was a concern because they had
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: the DNA evidence, but they had nothing else. They didn't
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: have anybody that saw him do this. They didn't have
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: the weapon, nothing, They just had the DNA evidence.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: That was found on So they're going to go with
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: the cops.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: No. So during the trial, like I said, Cole took
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: the stand himself to explain how his DNA ended up
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: where it did. Oh Cole, So he claims that he
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: met JB at the mall earlier that day and they
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: just hit it off, and so they decided to meet
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: up around eleven thirty that evening. So he goes, he
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: meets up with her and Tracy was there. He has
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: consensual sex with JB.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Of course, yes, so.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: This is a seventeen year old girl. He was twenty
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: five twenty six years old at the time. Has consensual
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: sex with the.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Girl she said she was eighteen.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Yep, he leaves her and that's the last time he
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: saw her, and he don't know what happened after that,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: but that's how he that's how his DNA ended up there.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: And then what really upset the family of the girls
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: is they tried to paint because Cole was black and
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: the girls were white, and so the defense went out
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: there on to news stations and everything saying that this
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: was a bunch like they were a bunch of racist
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: people that were just upset that their daughter was having
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: relations with a black man and it really upset the
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: family because that's not how they were at all or
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: anything like that, and to try to try to put
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: down the girls and the family in that way anyway.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: So it didn't work, though he ended up being found
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: guilty and he didn't get the death penalty though he
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: got life in prison. Well, however, what okay, I'm just
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: gonna play Devil's advocates here. No one saw anything else
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: that happened. I mean, it's very likely he did this,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: like he he's the one that the girls and everything.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: But what if he did just meet her and they
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: just I mean, he wasn't like it wasn't like he
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: was forty five at that time. He was twenty five,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: you know, a young man. He meets this girl at
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: the mall or something. They do have.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: So we know that the girls went to the mall though.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Well that's the other thing. They don't have any there's no.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Did anybody say they went to the mall on the
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: girl's birthday to go buy something for a birthday. No,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: nobody remember.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, well that was okay, now you're remind you're making
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: me remember the problem with his story is there was
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: zero corroboration that the defense attorney. They couldn't because that
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: didn't match up with what the ladies saw at the
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: talk to the girls at the gas station, Like they
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: had the map of the party, the outdoor party. That
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: was why the girls missed the party, because they got
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: lost and couldn't find it. So yeah, that was what
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: it was. It was I was trying to think why
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: did I was like, oh, yeah, that makes sense because
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: they did say that the There was nothing to corroborate.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: What he said because there was no meetup location because
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: the girls.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Were lost, Yes, because they were, and they had a
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: map for the outdoor party, which was an outdoor party,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: and they confirmed there was an outdoor party that the
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: girls were supposed to go to and they missed with
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: their friends. So yes, he was lying. But I'm just
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: saying like that could happen though, Yeah.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, so yes, just like a women cheating on their
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: husband or something, or guys cheating on their wives. DNA
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: somebody ends up murdered, and then there's DNA.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: It's like yeah, and then it's like, oh, well he
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: did it. You're like, but I was just having an
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: affair with her.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: But it's also like, yeah, we had a meetup that
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: day and then I guess her husband found out and
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: killed her.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, it can I could see how it
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: would happen. But anyways, it just really they were happy
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: that they the families were happy that they found the
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: person who did this. However, they just it really is
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: upsetting when the defense attorneys go out there and just
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: do a whole smear campaign so that whoever the victim
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: was say these like crazy things.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: It was just a whrror. She was screwing everybody.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, anyway, Oh that's what they'll say. I know they'll
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: say it, but it's really upsetting for the family to
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: have to listen to that when it's not representative of
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: the situation whatsoever or who they are as people. So
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: that's where they tried to go with that. But anyways, anyways,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: do you have a that's our case out of Alabama?
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Do you have a y'all need Jesus please tell me
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: it's ready to go.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: It's always ready to go, honey.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, a stripper, I take it back, We're not doing.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: A stripper didn't want to be videotaped, so she used
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: a coconut as a weapon. Police say, Florida or not Florida.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Florida Miami Herald.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: It's got a coconut involved. Of course it's Florida.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: By Gwyn Felosa. Updated May thirteenth, twenty nineteen.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Well, based on the headline right now, I'm on the
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: stripper's side. Okay, she shouldn't have to record. You need
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: to pay extra if you want to record.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe it's not in the club. Maybe it's not
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: sound the club. Sometimes paradise comes in.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: We're a stripper outside the club. Okay, yeah, you can
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: finish your story.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, sometimes paradise comes with its own hazards. A Key
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: West stripper was jailed after police said she committed an
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: assault with a deadly weapon on d Ball Street.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Come on the.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Weapon, one coconut. Chantel Latasha Bolds, thirty six, who is
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: listed as a Miami resident, was arrested on a felony
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: charge of aberger evaded assault with a deadly weapon.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, this is a bit of a stretch. Okay, the
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: police were out for her. This is a stretch a coconut,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: She was released from the Stock Island Detention Center within
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: a couple of hours without having to post a bond.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Bolds admitted to police she threw the coconut at George Exposito,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: but only because he was videotaping her sitting on the
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: porch of the VIP Gentlemen's Club one two two, one
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Duvall Street in Key West. In case any year down there,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: I want to go to it.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: So she was sitting on the porch outside the Gentleman's
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Club and he started recording her. Yes, okay, throw the
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: coconut at the motherfucker. He's probably he's the same pervert
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: that's on door dash.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, Oh jeez, here we go.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: He's just put recording that.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Girl that's opening the door recording people.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, don't get me started on the door dash situation. Okay.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: So she shouted obscenities at him as he walked by
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: filming her, after saying, ladies, So he's so annoying, like
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: she did. I guess they might have been out there
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: for a smoke where I don't know what.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, well leave them the leaving the fuck alone. They
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: already did their job in there. You need to leave
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: them alone. Stop harassing them outside their work.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: This is when she hurled a coconut at him.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Care good for you.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know if these things are just laying around
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: in Key West and you just find one on the
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: ground and you're like, I'm gonna throw the cocona upfil
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: you find acorns, you can throw an acorn at somebody,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: or a pine cone raish, yeah, or a link of
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: boot an, But a coconut just laying around, She said,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: I will be honest with you. I threw it, but
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: I it didn't hit him, not at all. The video
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: didn't capture the coconut throw, but it did show a
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: coconut wobbling on the sidewalk as if it had just
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: been thrown, police said. Entertainers at the VIP Club, which
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: advertises role play fetishes, new dancing and private rooms, have
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: been known to get angry at a passerby or two
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: who snaps photos of them when they're outside.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: And as they should, they should leave them alone. But
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: they're doing weird fetishes with coconuts inside. That's probably why
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: the coconuts out there. God knows what they did with the.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Dry air and out. That's gotta get the smell off
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: of it. You're disgusting, But Key West police aren't. Mark
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Syracuse told Bolds that she hadn't she should have no
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: expectation of privacy sitting out on the club's porch in
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: public view. Exposito of Miami said he believed the coconut
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: could have caused damage.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: He asked the police if he deserved to have the
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: coconut throw thrown at him. Officers didn't answer. Exposito could
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: not be reached for comment on what a little.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Bitch pressing charges against the lady for throwing out there
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: after she's probably done, god knows what in that club,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: having to deal with these fetish people and stuff in
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: these back rooms, and then she walks outside. She just
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: wants to get her smoke on and everything. And he
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: got this little weasy.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Little some fresh air outpits or something.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Recorder and stuff, arm pets or something whatever. Anyway, Okay,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: you don't stop, You don't have to continue on Stewart,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: it's done.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Freshen up, No, it goes back then it's done.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: It is not done anyways, I'm on the side. Let's
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: get started. Gofund me on her on her side, this
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: is ridiculous assault of with the deadly weapon.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Well, it's six years ago, so I mean, I'm sure
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: she'd appreciate the money now for a goalfundme, because I mean, like, yeah,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: she might need to go fund me. I'm not sure
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: what she looks like, but she was thirty six and
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: twenty nineteen when she.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Was already aging out of the strippers.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're aging out of the strippering thing. This is
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, six years ago. She's forty two now if
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: she still hasn't worked with C six.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Years ago, she's thirty eight. You said six years and
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: she was thirty two. You said forty two.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: She's not. I said she's thirty six when this happened.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: You said thirty six years ago.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: You said thirty two originally. Anyways, it doesn't matter, that's right.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: But all right, we're going to have tape. We're going
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: to continue this. Whenever you go to this, just scroll
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: back like a minute half and let us know, because
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, I'm not going to go
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: back and check anyways. I just want to say real quickly, Okay,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: so in case anybody's if you're still here and you're confused,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: the door dash situation is, I'm just gonna briefly say it,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say my piece, and I haven't looked
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: today on any updates. So if I'm wrong right now,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: then I change my opinion. But as of yesterday, this
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: girl gets on TikTok, she went to go deliver a
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: door dash. She goes to deliver it. The door is
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: wide open. The man is lying on his couch with
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: his hoodie on his arm placed in front of his
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: face like that, and his pants down to his ankles.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: So he's porky pagan.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, So she is like, you've got to be kidding me.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: So she records like they have to take a picture
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: when they drop off the food anyway, so he was
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: his naked ass was going to be in the picture.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: And the way that the let me just go real quickly.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: The house the way it's set up, the porch comes
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: up on the right side and then the door is
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: kind of offset so when you walk up you can
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: see angled at the couch like this is clearly set
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: up for her to have to see this so one
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: So apparently she contacted door Dash, and she contacted the
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: police about this, and because this is so anyways, and
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: so DoorDash deactivated the guy and stop rushing me. So
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: this is the end of the fucking podcast. If they
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: can move on, if they can show it.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: I can't move on. I can't get by you until
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: you wrapped this.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: So he's already heard about this several times. I've been
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: on this, so I'm mad at the internet right now.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, just skip the long version on shoot to poo,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: give it a short version here.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: I am giving it. I have to explains, Yes, it
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: will be done. I'm never going to let you finish
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: that Al Green or whatever the heck it was that
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: you wanted to do. Yeah, George Jones whatever, Who's al Green?
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know. There's a bunch of al Greens. There's
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: an al Bundy too, Okay.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: So anyways, so she contacts doord They deactivate him, and
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: she content the police, well they won't do anything, and
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: DoorDash is kind of like, not they deactivated, but like,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: what is that she wanted to do something else because
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: this was like obviously he set this up so that
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: she would have to see this. Keep in mind, I
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: think she's like a young girl, like twenty, like early
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: twenties or something like that. So she gets on she
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: decides to post the video on TikTok and like blast
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: this guy. She just says his first name in the
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: last first letter of his last name, and they know
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: the city that she's in because it's where she lives
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: or whatever, so all of a sudden, and so the
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: problem is is she is an unlikable victim. She said
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: that she got sexually assaulted, which that's where people are
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: having the problem with. They're saying, like, you just walked
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: up and the man was exposing himself to you. That's
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: not sexual assault. Maybe it's sexual harassment. She chose the
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: wrong wording for it. Some people say that is sexual
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: assault whatever, But she is kind of an unlikable victim.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: So then she got fired from doordawn for posting it
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: and everything, which probably that's probably part of their terms
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: of sess. But the problem is is now now the
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: entire internet is like upset with this girl and sticking
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: up for this man. They're making up things now saying
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: that she said.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: The internet and the other half is on her side.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: No, there's a larger portion that is out to get her. So,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: like I said, I haven't checked today, so if all
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: this has changed as of today, then and this is
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: so they're trying to so all of a sudden in
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: the comments section, so everybody has has screenshots. So TikTok
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: took the video down because it shows his privates or whatever.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: So she said that she she in a later video
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: said I re uploaded it and I blurred out that
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: portion to see if it would stay, and TikTok kept
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: taking down. She said that was the only part she
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: changed because the video that she posted was in real time,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: like you can see the door open. Well, then all
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, all these comments anytime somebody was saying
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: that it was defending the girl and saying maybe she's
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: the wrong word, but this guy is a pervert that
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: set this up. So she would have because I don't
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: understand how people. People are like, well, maybe he was
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: having a medical issue, maybe he was drunk. They have
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: they not been around these fucking perverts in this world.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I used to work at a bookstore and we always
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: had this guy that would come masturbateed in the young
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: adult section, like it was. It was weird. I sat
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: next to that guy on that plane that was masturbating
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: next to me, Like, man, this is an entire category
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: on porn hub dedicated to this kind of weird face
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: where they get off on like a girl walking up
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: and being and finding them in this position and stuff.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: So for some reason, so for some reason, this okay,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: it's just a common knowledge apparently, but everybody's defending this
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: like perver or whatever and saying that she that she
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: said that the door was all of a sudden in
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: the comment section, we started get everybody saying the same thing,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: the door was just cracked and she opened it and
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: went into his house, which is not true. You can
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: see him clearly from the porch standing there. We have
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: the video of that. So so then is on my
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: conspiracy theory is that door dash paid a bunch of
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: bots to start putting out this bad information, and so
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: now people aren't even so everybody's like, well, where's the
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: video where she said the door was cracked and she
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: walked in the home, because nobody can seem to find that,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: And so then they started so in the comments, then
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: they started taking the screenshot of the video with the
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: door wide open and putting a black bar over it,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: and then posting it and say, see the door was cracked,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: but it's like cutting off the words because she put
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: the door was wide open, and I walked up and
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: he's lying nked on and everybody's like this is a
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: photoshop and it's bad at that. So it's just like
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: everybody's just she's an unlikable victim. But that doesn't mean
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: the fact that she's.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: With your family.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: It just happened to be like what took me? I
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: just got so angry that everybody was like so then
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: we have like this girl that this happened to you,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: and you're supporting this dumb ass that's buck ass nked
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: on a ca out with the door wide open. What
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: if like children had walked up and they're like, well,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: he's in his own home, he can be neck and
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: it's like, no, you can't. I can't stand in front
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: of my front window and just like flash my tits
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: to the to the everybody. I'm gonna get in trouble.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: That's exhibitionism. You can you can't just stand.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Here stand there drinking coffee and the blinds open. You
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: can't do watching what's going on in the world.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: So they're trying to say, like what we can just
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: go open our door wide open and then have Walmart
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: deliver an order or target or something like that. And
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: then you just be standing and with your dog hanging out.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Our vagina.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: That's not allowed. And then then I can't believe there's
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: like he maybe had a medical issue. It's like, no,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: this fucker and his pants and his underwear all the
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: way down his ankles, and he had positioned it with
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: the lights all on. There was nothing wrong with this person.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: And so I'm waiting to find out. I'll have to
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: check and see if there's any new updates. Like I said,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: if there's new updates and she did actually open the door,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: then fine, I take back everything. But as of right now,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: there's no proof that she that I believe her that
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: this guy's a pervert and he wanted her to find it.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: And there's other girls that have gone on and said
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: this happened to me too, but I didn't tell anybody
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: because I didn't think he would believe me. And then
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: now it's like, well, here's a prime example. She had
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: a video evidence. Everybody's like she's a lion bitch, you know.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: So anyways, so that's the door dash thing.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: The long version told you to keep it short and something.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, whatever, stew it's into the podcast. They can They
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: could have hung up by now, moved on to something
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: bigger and better. But all right, well I think show Jones. Yeah,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: I'm never gonna pull that up up right now, I
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: gotta go, Stu, it's after eleven ago.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Evidentally, it wasn't that important for you to go, all right,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: so we will.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Don't forget the Patreon, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok. Look up the
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: door dash situation if you're on TikTok, and then we
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: will see you next time. By everyone, say bye Stu,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Bye Stuve.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: It's bad. He's superstitious. But nothing else is working, and
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: my hands ringing and learning and I'm sick o. It's
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: worrying bout things I cantage