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THROWBACK: Will Smith & Martin Lawrence Talk ‘Bad Boys’ Trilogy, Growth, Regrets + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Wait that ass up in the morning Breakfast Club Morning.
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Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy Angela, Ye, Charlomagne the guy. We
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Speaker 1: are the Breakfast Club. And we got some legends in
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Speaker 1: the building, icons living wenute this time, we really he said,
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Speaker 1: special guests a lot. It's a little different icons, right.
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Speaker 1: We have Will Smith and Martin Lawrence absolutely rock them
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Speaker 1: around him my glass and god damn it, they boys.
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Speaker 1: And we didn't Martin so dirty. No, we didn't do nothing.
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Speaker 1: Stuck in the elevator, I said, what's going on here? Now?
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Speaker 1: Did you check the way capacity? Martin? How many people
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Speaker 1: was on the elevator with you? It was a lot
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Speaker 1: of people. That's what I'm saying. I've never seen an
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Speaker 1: entourage like this from anybody. We have a lot of rappings,
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Speaker 1: but what you're talking about on the elevator, I just
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Speaker 1: told him, nobody don't find please, don't do that. That
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Speaker 1: the worst when you're an elevator with people you don't know,
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Speaker 1: because you gotta make small talk and yeah, you know,
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Speaker 1: I'd be like, hey, how you doing? Yeah, yeah, oh
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Speaker 1: what's that? Oh no, you're just happy to see me.
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Speaker 1: So you guys are brothers. You've done movies, your friends.
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Speaker 1: I want to start. I just want to ask you
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Speaker 1: guys a question. What's the craziest gift that you guys
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Speaker 1: received from each other? If anything, craziest gift. And I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna tell you why in the second guy craziest gifts
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Speaker 1: because it's Martin. That's right, it's Martin inspired. Craziest gift
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Speaker 1: we got you give me just off golf clubs? Yeah
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Speaker 1: you never you didn't swing on one time? He not
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Speaker 1: not really, I don't go out there, no, I golf.
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Speaker 1: But I was like trying to get him because like
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Speaker 1: if you played any sport in your life, once you
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Speaker 1: get to a certain age, you know you're not gonna
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Speaker 1: be running ball. You know, got you so, But like golf,
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Speaker 1: you get to you know, set your friends and you
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Speaker 1: get to do you know, you get all of the
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Speaker 1: same kind of energy from golf, except you can do
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Speaker 1: it till you eighty. Got you. I was trying to
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Speaker 1: have Marty mar but yeah, yeah, he ain't take to it.
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Speaker 1: Still at least I have the club yet. So it's
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Speaker 1: this disrespectful right, So this is what Charlotta maagne my brother,
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Speaker 1: I guess you can call him that got me for Christmas.
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Speaker 1: It's right behind you, right, I mean, listen, Oh, Gina
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Speaker 1: got Martin something like this, Wow, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: My wife is a little upset you got you know?
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Speaker 1: I mean, is that little disrespectful? The word I'm just asking.
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Speaker 1: I mean, here's the deal you I don't I don't judge,
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Speaker 1: but by the cover. But what was the thinking? What
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Speaker 1: would you he always going for? He called me his
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Speaker 1: favorite asshole of time. Oh got it from yes, have
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Speaker 1: it at home to be reminded of the level of
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Speaker 1: antsholdness that he has to deal with. So yeah, that's
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Speaker 1: not like, yeah, we don't. We don't send each other
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Speaker 1: that kind everything that the whole boy. Let people smack
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Speaker 1: it when they walk in. That's so bad boys. Now,
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Speaker 1: why did it take so long to put this out
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Speaker 1: and get this done? This? No, it had to be
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Speaker 1: right man, it's um you know what the first bad Boys? Uh?
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Speaker 1: What it meant for the culture? You know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: It was like it was at a time, you know,
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Speaker 1: the height of Martin and the height of Fresh Prince
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Speaker 1: and we came together and made this movie and it
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Speaker 1: was like it was an important moment, you know, for
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Speaker 1: for the culture at that point. It was Eddie, you know,
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Speaker 1: Eddie was the black dude that was holding it down,
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Speaker 1: and then we came together and created something. And then
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Speaker 1: we got to the second and I just didn't want
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Speaker 1: to mess it up. You know, It's like, I don't
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Speaker 1: want to do a cash grab. You know, everybody's doing sequels,
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Speaker 1: Let's do one. I was like, no, if we're gonna
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Speaker 1: make a Bad Boys a third one, it has to
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Speaker 1: be deservant. There has to be messages and ideas. We
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Speaker 1: got to be talking about something and it's not just
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Speaker 1: you know, blowing some stuff up and and you know,
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Speaker 1: getting paid. I'm not confronted. Was leary because the first
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Speaker 1: or second one, you guys are doing stunts, You're driving
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Speaker 1: through thres your breathing. Will just said they played golf
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Speaker 1: because and I'm gonna be running around. Yeah, yeah, trying
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Speaker 1: to switch it, to switch it up a little bit.
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Speaker 1: But though in this one, yeah, we start we use them.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and it's different. Also, there's different technologies and
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Speaker 1: stuff like that, so you can do stunts up to
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Speaker 1: a certain point. What we didn't have in the first
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Speaker 1: movie was face replacement. They do face replacement, so you
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Speaker 1: can I can do a stunt, right, and then they
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Speaker 1: have the stunt man do the exact stunt that I
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Speaker 1: did it, and they can match it and they can
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Speaker 1: replace my face on the stunt man. Wow. Right, So
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Speaker 1: they can just do it, so they can hold a
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Speaker 1: single shot, but they can use the actual face of
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Speaker 1: the actor and you can't tell the difference in the stunt.
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Speaker 1: So you get to do as much as you or
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Speaker 1: as little as you want. You know, you didn't used
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Speaker 1: to be able to do that. Yeah, no, no, that's yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's speaking of budgets. How does money work in a
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Speaker 1: situation like this? Yeah, y'all get equal pay or you know,
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Speaker 1: because there was a rumor that you was making like
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Speaker 1: ten million dollars more than Martin Nole. Okay, well we've
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Speaker 1: been we've been talking for four minutes. You don't go
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Speaker 1: to that ship interview, you know, as we finished your
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Speaker 1: we done. As we get ready for this movie. Though,
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Speaker 1: you do research on how Bad Boys started, and I
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Speaker 1: was reading that it was originally intended for John Lovitt
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Speaker 1: and Dana Carvey. Yeah, yeah, they were the original Bad Boys.
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Speaker 1: So how did you guys end up? Script came to me. Um,
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Speaker 1: they presented it to me first, and then they wanted
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Speaker 1: me to pick somebody to co star with me in
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Speaker 1: the movie. And my sister Ray brought Will's uh attention
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Speaker 1: to me, and so won't you do it? Well? And
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Speaker 1: I thought about it, so I called it was like
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Speaker 1: a fresh prince. I thought about it. I called, well,
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Speaker 1: I said, let's set up a dinner, and Will came
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Speaker 1: to my house and we had a dinner, and after
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Speaker 1: five minutes of talking to him, the rest is history. Man.
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Speaker 1: You know, I couldn't say no, Yeah, now we had
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Speaker 1: we literally it's one of those things you know, and
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Speaker 1: you know, you know how important it is in a
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Speaker 1: situation like this. Staff chemistry, right, you know, somebody picks
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Speaker 1: up right when you you know, you go in and
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Speaker 1: you you create a chemistry. The second we sat down,
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Speaker 1: it was there, and you know it was it was
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Speaker 1: so perfect that we knew that we wanted to work together.
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Speaker 1: We yeah, man, we had met, but we didn't we
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Speaker 1: didn't really know each other. Like The Bad Boys was
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Speaker 1: the first time we actually uh you know, sat down
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Speaker 1: and chopped it up. And you know it's you can't
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Speaker 1: you can't fake and you can't buy chemistry. You can't
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Speaker 1: buy chemistry. It's like you either got it with somebody
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Speaker 1: or you don't, and you know me and this one
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Speaker 1: right here, it's like there's so much love and so
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Speaker 1: much respect for each other that and it's just fun
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Speaker 1: to watch, you know, with people that really vibe like that.
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Speaker 1: He never looked at it like you watched the Early
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Speaker 1: Fresh Prince and he was used to I don't know
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Speaker 1: if you remember, I used to say his lines right
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Speaker 1: before you, never looking none of that stuff, be like,
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Speaker 1: you know what, I don't know about this. I Will
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Speaker 1: does great work, you know. And I thought he was
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Speaker 1: great on the Fresh Prints and his energy, the energy brings.
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Speaker 1: So I just was excited to work with m. I
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Speaker 1: was jealous as hell. I was jealous as hell of Martin. Really, yeah,
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Speaker 1: being honest, who got who had the better sit It's
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Speaker 1: I think that's a matter of as hell. That's a
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Speaker 1: tough one. We had the best. Yeah, we're gonna call it.
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Speaker 1: We donna call at a time. We don't call at
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Speaker 1: any time. You know. I just figured out what I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna get you for, figured out what I'm It's something
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Speaker 1: that you are. Now let me ask you guys, you
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Speaker 1: watch your sitcoms like because they come out all the time.
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Speaker 1: So I'll be home watching I was watching Biggie Martin
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Speaker 1: the other day. I was watching Queen Latifa I'm the
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Speaker 1: First Prince the other day and you look back at
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Speaker 1: and you're like, damn, these people are like became so
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Speaker 1: huge even after that. The great thing about a TV
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Speaker 1: show when you do something every week, you get a
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Speaker 1: real chance to like try people out and put people on. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know. So you know, we Queen Latifa, you know,
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Speaker 1: we've been friends for forever, but on The Fresh Prince
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Speaker 1: she was like, Yo, I think I'm gonna try acting.
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Speaker 1: So we were able to set it up on The
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Speaker 1: Fresh Prince for her to make her acting debut on
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Speaker 1: the show. So it's like when you when you have
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Speaker 1: something like that, it's like a gym. You know, you
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Speaker 1: get to train and you get to work out and
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Speaker 1: you get to have you know, people come through. So
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Speaker 1: it was you know, for me, that was one of
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Speaker 1: the best parts of it to be able to meet
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Speaker 1: people and you know, you have a week to work
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Speaker 1: stuff out and and you know, did you find the
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Speaker 1: same Yeah. I love putting all the hip hop artists on,
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Speaker 1: you know, because that's what I represented, hip hop. So
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Speaker 1: I had a lot of fun with it, and uh
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Speaker 1: just everybody that came on. We had a lot of fun. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know, we'll always thought about the scene with you
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Speaker 1: and uh, the late great James Avery. Yeah, when your
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Speaker 1: your father left. Yeah, man, what did you dig into
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Speaker 1: to get that kind of emotion out of that thing?
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Speaker 1: Because even now if you watch that your eyes watching,
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Speaker 1: I'm still yeah, and it's like, um, James Avery. Man,
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Speaker 1: it was like so every everybody on The Fresh Prince
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Speaker 1: was stage trained acting, you know. So it was like
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Speaker 1: Alfonso starting the show had fifteen years of experience coming in,
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Speaker 1: so I was the least experience. The tap dance kid, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know, moon walking into Michael Jackson. You know. So
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Speaker 1: when when I when I came on to the show, Um,
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Speaker 1: James Avery was one of the first people that pulled
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Speaker 1: me up, and he was like, hey, you know you
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Speaker 1: got you you have real talent, don't squander it, right,
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Speaker 1: And so he never liked nothing. You didn't like nothing
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Speaker 1: I did, right, And I was always trying to get
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Speaker 1: his approval. You know, Shakespearean trained, big command of his voice,
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Speaker 1: he you know, his body as an instrument as a performer,
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Speaker 1: and you know, so in that scene, it was like
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Speaker 1: the first time that I took a real dramatic shot
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Speaker 1: and h James Avery in that scene and we're doing
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Speaker 1: it and I'm and I'm I'm trying to get there
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Speaker 1: and I want to impress him so bad and the
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Speaker 1: first time in front of the audience, I missed it
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Speaker 1: and I messed the scene up, and I'm like, fuck,
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Speaker 1: and I'm losing it in front of the audience, you know,
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Speaker 1: And he looks it. Hey, I snapped in and he's
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Speaker 1: look was pointed. He's like, use me, use me in
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Speaker 1: this scene. And we get and he said get it together,
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Speaker 1: and I settled down. He said action, and we get
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Speaker 1: and then ultimately we did the scene and we had
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Speaker 1: the scene that was there and I'm holding him and
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Speaker 1: when I'm holding him, he whispers in my ear. Now
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Speaker 1: that's fucking acting, right, And I was like, but you
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Speaker 1: had to tell you tapped into disappointment, right, Yeah, you
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Speaker 1: disappointed him, yes, and no, But that's what he was
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Speaker 1: telling me about how to use the actor in the scene.
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Speaker 1: He was like, use me, don't try to find it
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Speaker 1: in you. So then when I tapped into the idea
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Speaker 1: of how bad I wanted to impress him and how
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm getting in I'm I'm feeling it now. It's
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Speaker 1: like when when you have those um emotional tool boxes,
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Speaker 1: sometimes you slip into them. I can feel um that
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Speaker 1: that emotion right now. And it was like, um, it
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Speaker 1: was he was the father figure that Uh, Will felt like.
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Speaker 1: Will me personally felt like I was disappointing him in
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Speaker 1: that scene. So I tapped into that and I used
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Speaker 1: my relationship with James Avery to find that emotion. But
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Speaker 1: you know, for me, it's been it's been a massive
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Speaker 1: uh acting journey, hugely on the back of his teachings
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Speaker 1: and his his urging of me to always go deeper.
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Speaker 1: How did you guys both get those shows? You know?
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Speaker 1: And Will? Did you feel like I'm a rapper from Philly?
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Speaker 1: If I crossover, I might destroy my career? And how
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Speaker 1: did you get into How did they give you that show?
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Speaker 1: How did that that show come together? Well? For me,
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Speaker 1: my manager at the time was his name was Top
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Speaker 1: of carew. He took me into HBO Hip and they
12:48
Speaker 1: had it was called hip at the time. It was
12:52
Speaker 1: a what did they parent company? And Uh he took
12:57
Speaker 1: me in to meet Chris Albreak and he was like, Yo,
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Speaker 1: you know this guy's funny and what you think about
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Speaker 1: giving them as his own show. So Chris was like,
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Speaker 1: all right, we'll try it out. So I was like,
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Speaker 1: just like that. He's like, yeah, I tried it out,
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Speaker 1: and I was like, oh shit, rests history. Wow, that
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Speaker 1: was big back then, especially for a black man. What
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Speaker 1: a kind of show it was. Yeah, for you to
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Speaker 1: be a hip hop dude doing the shows. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: And I did all them characters because I really want
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Speaker 1: to show to work, you know, and that I didn't
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Speaker 1: want it to fail. So I just started doing all
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Speaker 1: these characters to try to push it, to push it,
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Speaker 1: to push it. You know what. I want to ask
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Speaker 1: you why we live in this era of like pause
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Speaker 1: and you know rapper saying no homo when you was
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Speaker 1: doing and you was doing scenes like all upon kids,
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Speaker 1: did you ever get backlash back then from your people,
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Speaker 1: because now they for guy did that, he'd be like, pause,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Back then? This funny it
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Speaker 1: does it's just funny. You just like, no, I just
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Speaker 1: want to make people laugh. I just want to make
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Speaker 1: people laugh. That was it was each character, that was it.
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Speaker 1: Martin did um well. Has he tried to get you
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Speaker 1: to be more active on social media? Yes, and yet
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Speaker 1: he gave me a camera. Use this. You have a
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Speaker 1: camera team everywhere? Are you considering get jumping into because
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Speaker 1: you see Will, it's been so effective for you, Like
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Speaker 1: we don't know as much about you now like as
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Speaker 1: we do about well, well we didn't used to know
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Speaker 1: as much, but it seems like you like it now.
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Speaker 1: I love it? Right, So you think that would be
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Speaker 1: something I'm trying to do more things. You know, I'm
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Speaker 1: trying to be more creative. This guy has a creative mind,
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Speaker 1: so he's always on there. But I'm trying to find
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Speaker 1: things I could do and bring to the people. So
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Speaker 1: no jumping out the playing for you more? No, no
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Speaker 1: jumping out more swimming with shock? Why Will not? So
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Speaker 1: here's what happens. So here's what Here's what happened. Not weird?
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Speaker 1: Is this why it's family? Well? No, So what happened
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Speaker 1: was um and it's funny because it was. It was
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Speaker 1: something like you know, I've been watching you for a
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Speaker 1: while and it's something that I wanted to talk to
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Speaker 1: you about that Will dive into it offline. But the
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Speaker 1: idea for me is, um, I painted myself into a
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Speaker 1: corner with Will Smith, right, and I realized that you know,
15:19
Speaker 1: we all we have our childhood traumas and we have
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Speaker 1: our experiences, and then we all create these characters that
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Speaker 1: are going to be our characters that defend us in
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Speaker 1: the world. There's certain things we can't do to, certain
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Speaker 1: things we say, can't say, certain ways we react. If
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Speaker 1: people do something something and we create a character that
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Speaker 1: we go out into the world with, then that character
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Speaker 1: wins some things for us. It's like, oh, we succeed
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Speaker 1: by behaving this way. Then what happens You get to
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Speaker 1: a point where it stops working as well, and the
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Speaker 1: reason that it stops working because it's not true, it's
15:56
Speaker 1: not really who you are. And then you get back
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Speaker 1: to to a corner it stops working. Now the question
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Speaker 1: is are you gonna be courageous enough and are you
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Speaker 1: gonna be brave enough to kill essentially the character that
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Speaker 1: you've created, and are you gonna have the courage to
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Speaker 1: live as who you really are? And on my fiftieth
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Speaker 1: birthday when I jumped out of that that helicopter over
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Speaker 1: the Grand Canyon, that was kind of my moment for
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Speaker 1: myself where I was like, I'm gonna be who I
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Speaker 1: am even if it isn't in line with the Will
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Speaker 1: Smith that people think I'm supposed to be. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: have the courage and I'm gonna have the the the
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Speaker 1: bravery to be who I am, you know. And it's like,
16:39
Speaker 1: I've been watching you for a while, and that's what
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Speaker 1: I was. I was like, that was one of the
16:43
Speaker 1: things I wanted to talk to you about. I can
16:45
Speaker 1: see the the mechanism happening in your mind. You're seeing
16:51
Speaker 1: Charlemagne the god as separate from you, absolutely, And I
16:54
Speaker 1: was like, and I was like, I want to I
16:56
Speaker 1: want I can see. I looked at a little bit
16:59
Speaker 1: of your book too, and I was like, you know,
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Speaker 1: I want you to know who you really are is
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Speaker 1: enough that the character can die because always I never
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Speaker 1: wanted to be a character to your money, right, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I just read us
17:11
Speaker 1: reading this book called The Unapologetically The Unapologetic Guy in
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Speaker 1: the Black Mental Health and the woman readA Walker said
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Speaker 1: we have to be willing to let go of who
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Speaker 1: we want people to think. Yeah, exactly, And that's that
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Speaker 1: was the thing for me, um Me and Jay to
17:24
Speaker 1: talk about that a lot, you know, even in the
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Speaker 1: the the idea of our marriage and how people want
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Speaker 1: us to be married versus how we're really married, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like it's a really different thing.
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Speaker 1: And it's so hard to let go of the characters
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Speaker 1: people and what people want to see. And because also
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Speaker 1: those characters saved your life when you were young. Yes,
17:48
Speaker 1: those ideas saved your life and made your money, and
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Speaker 1: they made you money, you know, so letting go of
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Speaker 1: that and having the courage to really be who you
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Speaker 1: are in the world. And it's it's like, it's terrified.
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Speaker 1: Will should be a motivational not One of your closest
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Speaker 1: friends called you, right and he's a close friend to
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Speaker 1: us as well. He called you and he asked you
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Speaker 1: for a couple million, and you gave it to him. No,
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Speaker 1: did not happen. Tyrese called millions like no, you know,
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Speaker 1: let me tell you something. Me and Tyrese, Uh, we've
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Speaker 1: been friends. He's out God, No, No, that's my dude.
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Speaker 1: Tyrese is my dude. It's like, uh, Tyrese calls me
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Speaker 1: when he don't he don't want the he don't want
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Speaker 1: it cut. He wanted raw and uncut. And you know,
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Speaker 1: the the the amount of talent that that dude has
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Speaker 1: in all the possibilities that Tyrese has is what I
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Speaker 1: keep drumming in with him. Tyrese is functioning at forty
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Speaker 1: percent of the capacity of what he really is, you know,
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Speaker 1: And that's another thing, being brave enough to be who
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Speaker 1: you really are versus you know, being Tyrese. Exactly right,
19:03
Speaker 1: I'm about to say that ain't got to that left. Yeah,
19:08
Speaker 1: you know, and we all do you know, they're still
19:10
Speaker 1: it's like, well, Will Smith takes good care of me.
19:12
Speaker 1: Will Smith takes good care of me. It's just he's
19:15
Speaker 1: it's not all the way met you. You know, there's
19:18
Speaker 1: a there, there's uh, there's a certain amount of of
19:22
Speaker 1: of pretense and in authenticity that it takes to hold
19:25
Speaker 1: up the character. That's so fucking interest because I think
19:28
Speaker 1: about that with you and Martin. Martin, I'm sure that
19:30
Speaker 1: it was a time where everybody wanted you to be
19:31
Speaker 1: like my you know, but if that's not you, yeah, what,
19:38
Speaker 1: it's not me all the time? Like people think that
19:40
Speaker 1: I'm on all the time when they see me, to
19:41
Speaker 1: think I'm all I'm always gonna be joking all that,
19:44
Speaker 1: But I'm probably a lot more shy in person than
19:47
Speaker 1: I am. You can't be shy, don't believe, believe not,
19:52
Speaker 1: believe it or not. I don't. I don't joke all
19:53
Speaker 1: the time. I don't talk all the time. I like
19:55
Speaker 1: to listen a lot, and uh, just take things in that,
19:58
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not wanted to think. This dude is
20:01
Speaker 1: one of the most authentic people that I have ever met,
20:05
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, with his life experiences and
20:08
Speaker 1: with the thing, Martin is as close to one hundred
20:11
Speaker 1: percent authentic as anybody I've ever met. It's no bullshit
20:16
Speaker 1: than with this dude. You know, Thank you. I want
20:23
Speaker 1: you to explain the you talked about it on Crown
20:25
Speaker 1: South to Ellie Wilson. I want you to talk about
20:26
Speaker 1: the Reggie scene and bad boys, right, because you know
20:30
Speaker 1: I'm a fall the five, right, but growing up, I'm like,
20:32
Speaker 1: if I have a dude I'm doing the same day,
20:34
Speaker 1: explain that to people who haven't heard and how that
20:37
Speaker 1: whole situation happened. So with Reggie, so he was he
20:41
Speaker 1: was a young actor, he had never done anything, so
20:43
Speaker 1: it was his first role. So Michael Bay was concerned
20:46
Speaker 1: that he wouldn't be able to perform the level of
20:49
Speaker 1: discomfort that we needed for the scene. So Michael Bay
20:52
Speaker 1: was like, yo, don't don't talk to him. Talk to him,
20:55
Speaker 1: he said, I want y'all to be like, pretend like
20:58
Speaker 1: y'all are aren't argue and pretend like you're not getting on.
21:00
Speaker 1: I just want to get him, get him riled up,
21:02
Speaker 1: you know. So I go and I sit down with
21:04
Speaker 1: the kids. So it's first meeting Well and Martin. So
21:07
Speaker 1: I'm sitting down, I'm talking, I'm talking, and then Martin
21:09
Speaker 1: comes up and uh he says, hey, will you know
21:12
Speaker 1: you're stepping on my lines a little bit in the scene.
21:14
Speaker 1: I need you to leave a little bit of room
21:16
Speaker 1: so I can, you know, get my line in there.
21:19
Speaker 1: And I was like, you need to get in where
21:20
Speaker 1: you fit in. And the kid, a little kid is
21:23
Speaker 1: sitting there. He's like, oh no. Martin was like, yo,
21:25
Speaker 1: why why are you acting like that? Man? I'm like,
21:28
Speaker 1: why I'm acting? Like what why I'm acting like And
21:30
Speaker 1: me and Martin start arguing in front of the kid,
21:34
Speaker 1: and this kid is sitting there like. Michael Bay is
21:37
Speaker 1: watching them, watching him, and as soon as he sees
21:39
Speaker 1: how the kid is terrif out enough, he's like and
21:43
Speaker 1: then I go, what the fuck you want? I'm here
21:47
Speaker 1: to pick up. Yeah, kid was shook for real. We
21:55
Speaker 1: saw me, Yeah, we saw Yeah. We can't get out
21:59
Speaker 1: yeah again, we see them again. We can't, we can't.
22:03
Speaker 1: We can't talk about it. But you will know, you
22:06
Speaker 1: will know, you will Why union in this one because
22:11
Speaker 1: you played such a big role in the second one.
22:13
Speaker 1: I just think we took a different story. It was
22:16
Speaker 1: like trying. There was no spot in the story like
22:19
Speaker 1: where we did work for, you know, for those characters
22:22
Speaker 1: to be in. But we're definitely that Boy's four because
22:26
Speaker 1: I see it on IDM whatever that should call it.
22:29
Speaker 1: What you said, this is the last one. Yeah, no,
22:31
Speaker 1: we We're gonna let the audience to side after people
22:35
Speaker 1: see it. Like, you know, I love working with this dude, man,
22:38
Speaker 1: and it's like I'm at the point in my in
22:41
Speaker 1: my life where I just I don't even want to
22:42
Speaker 1: do nothing if I'm not gonna have fun, you know,
22:45
Speaker 1: And it's like I'll take half the money that it
22:48
Speaker 1: would be as long as you know, I can have fun.
22:52
Speaker 1: And you know, we come to let me ask you this,
23:00
Speaker 1: but we were wondering, did Cali try to get you
23:03
Speaker 1: on the soundtrack? Yeah, yeah, we were talking, you know,
23:05
Speaker 1: just the timing up, and I so wanted to try
23:07
Speaker 1: to try to jump on there. We worked together. We
23:09
Speaker 1: had he annoying. He was annoying the out of callin
23:14
Speaker 1: is the best of the best man. Call was coming
23:19
Speaker 1: to set a month before it was time for his seed,
23:23
Speaker 1: ever to set, a month before it was time for
23:25
Speaker 1: his seedy. It's like, let me tell you, but that
23:29
Speaker 1: energy like you when you hit Miami, you know you
23:32
Speaker 1: got you got you gotta kiss the rings when you
23:33
Speaker 1: you know you hit Miami, you know you got to
23:35
Speaker 1: shout out Kalid. But he um, you know he was
23:38
Speaker 1: coming down to set. He was uh, you know he was.
23:41
Speaker 1: He so loves the franchise. You know, he loved it.
23:45
Speaker 1: He wanted it to win, and he wanted to do
23:46
Speaker 1: everything that he could do, uh to help us till kids.
23:49
Speaker 1: You have to have a DJ Khalid level of annoyance. No,
23:53
Speaker 1: that's real. I call it, well, I call it, uh
23:57
Speaker 1: fearlessness and relentlessness. Yeah. Yeah, you gotta be fearless and relentless,
24:02
Speaker 1: and Kalid is both of those. And and you know
24:05
Speaker 1: that that type of energy is the energy that cuts
24:09
Speaker 1: through you know that, you know you can't be quiet
24:12
Speaker 1: about it. And you got to lean on it at
24:14
Speaker 1: all times. The music questions, we're talking about music a
24:18
Speaker 1: little bit, Fresh Prince, Will Smith, who's the better rapper? Um, well,
24:22
Speaker 1: I think so. Somebody said. Somebody said, um, Will Smith
24:28
Speaker 1: was a whack rapper, but Fresh Prince it was dope.
24:32
Speaker 1: Somebody said that we're that somewhere. Yeah, hold on, let
24:38
Speaker 1: me see. But in your personal you think, no, you
24:50
Speaker 1: know what, there was a there was in that same thing.
24:54
Speaker 1: There was a certain amount of rawness and unbridled creativity
24:59
Speaker 1: during the first part of my career, and then once
25:02
Speaker 1: I started winning, it did kind of narrow the avenues
25:06
Speaker 1: of what I wanted to do. It was more important
25:09
Speaker 1: to me to win than to be me, you know.
25:13
Speaker 1: And you know, so there was there was a There
25:15
Speaker 1: was a certain amount. There was a certain amount. The
25:18
Speaker 1: Fresh Prince was wild and raw and um unapologetically you
25:26
Speaker 1: know himself. And then Will Smith got a little bit
25:29
Speaker 1: more polished, and um, why don't you line up a
25:32
Speaker 1: couple of number ones in a row? You get that
25:34
Speaker 1: the taste for blood in your mouth, and that that taste,
25:38
Speaker 1: um uh, sort of destroys the vastness of your creative mind.
25:44
Speaker 1: I remember hearing you on Radar podcast, and you said
25:47
Speaker 1: that it was a point where you didn't even want
25:49
Speaker 1: to curse. Yeah, well, my grandmother, my grandmother for you
25:54
Speaker 1: in comedy? Does that work in comedy too? Like, as
25:56
Speaker 1: you get more famous, you can't be as raw you
25:59
Speaker 1: feel like as you're to because you're still doing comedy tours. Yeah,
26:02
Speaker 1: I know you got a lot of comments coming out
26:03
Speaker 1: with you, but how does that work in comedy? I
26:06
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't compromise my comedy. You know, I
26:09
Speaker 1: never did in the past. Uh. You know, when I
26:12
Speaker 1: put out You So Crazy, they wanted me to water
26:14
Speaker 1: it down and give it an R rating, And I
26:17
Speaker 1: took an NC seventeen just so I could say what
26:20
Speaker 1: I wanted to say. And yeah, you know, so I
26:26
Speaker 1: don't like to compromise my comedy and I don't. I
26:29
Speaker 1: don't do it today. I just do what I want
26:30
Speaker 1: to do and have fun with it. Special difficult. What's
26:34
Speaker 1: the worst decision that both of you guys made in
26:36
Speaker 1: your career? Like, what's one thing you say, damn, I
26:37
Speaker 1: shouldn't have did that. What's one thing you said that damn,
26:39
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have did that? Or what did you pass
26:41
Speaker 1: up or something that you regret I made the Wild
26:44
Speaker 1: Wild West and the Matrix. Yeah, what about you more?
26:54
Speaker 1: I didn't go with him on the last press junket
26:58
Speaker 1: and Bad for Bad Boys. He did it by himself.
27:01
Speaker 1: And now that I see what we on this press
27:04
Speaker 1: junk at all, that we got to do it and
27:06
Speaker 1: the fun we had, why did you go? Well? I
27:10
Speaker 1: it was it's different. It's it's in the wild face
27:14
Speaker 1: when you was waving the gun on No, it was
27:19
Speaker 1: just a different time. And you know, they didn't want
27:22
Speaker 1: to fly me private. I wanted to go private. It
27:25
Speaker 1: was it's politics. So but but I've learned from that
27:29
Speaker 1: from now and I would do something different. Now are
27:33
Speaker 1: you still Are you still banned from now? I don't
27:35
Speaker 1: give a damn. I don't give it was something with
27:41
Speaker 1: the monologue back because right, yeah, I didn't know anything. No,
27:50
Speaker 1: but I'm not banned from No. They have banned me
27:53
Speaker 1: from NBC at the time for a minute. Yeah, but
28:01
Speaker 1: then they realized and they realized, you know, the way
28:04
Speaker 1: it went down wasn't what they thought. And then they
28:08
Speaker 1: sent me apology letter. Warren little Field, I think that's
28:11
Speaker 1: the president of something and he sent me a letter
28:14
Speaker 1: and apologize and saying, welcome back to NBC and everything.
28:19
Speaker 1: Did you say my dick you No? I just went
28:23
Speaker 1: on the air and read it on Jay Lennon saying,
28:28
Speaker 1: with comedy now, you know you see everybody so sensitive
28:31
Speaker 1: with everything? Yes, would you do a comedy special now?
28:34
Speaker 1: Because I'm thinking, like, like she said, the water glistening
28:36
Speaker 1: all over your body? I can see people having a
28:38
Speaker 1: problem with that. And you see Annie Murphy talking about
28:40
Speaker 1: his past comments and saying that he is apologetic now
28:43
Speaker 1: about them and you. The question is, would you have
28:48
Speaker 1: a problem doing a comedy, especially doing what you want
28:50
Speaker 1: to do, not care about what you say? Would you
28:52
Speaker 1: curve your comedy? I probably would think about a lot more,
28:56
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying out of my mouth, just
28:57
Speaker 1: because I have kids now and I care about how
29:01
Speaker 1: to affects them and uh but um, for the most part,
29:05
Speaker 1: I just want to give people what I'm feeling, you know,
29:07
Speaker 1: and and that's what I do. How your kids look
29:10
Speaker 1: at you when you do it? Do they look at
29:11
Speaker 1: you as moret And the guy on comedy like, come on, dad,
29:14
Speaker 1: wasn't one of those things that you just dad? The
29:16
Speaker 1: same thing with you just dad, just dad? I'm just Dad. Dad,
29:19
Speaker 1: he's so silly. I don't be doing anything that. He's
29:22
Speaker 1: just silly dad. My kids don't know I'm hot. Like
29:25
Speaker 1: I've been trying to tell, Like he made an icon living. Yeah,
29:31
Speaker 1: it's like Jaden you know he made that. Man. When
29:34
Speaker 1: I first heard that, I was like, what that record
29:38
Speaker 1: was crazy? And I was like, I find myself like
29:41
Speaker 1: I'm at breakfast with hey man, Yo, you think I
29:44
Speaker 1: can jump on that, you know. I was like, this
29:48
Speaker 1: is crazy, pointed if I want to jump orter. But yeah,
29:52
Speaker 1: it's like my kids. My kids, Yeah, they just they
29:55
Speaker 1: they think I'm silly and I can't get them to
29:58
Speaker 1: see I'm hot. I wanted to smile, bitch, my little dude.
30:01
Speaker 1: But my best life because I mean, if you look
30:04
Speaker 1: at the Graham, you are a person living in the the
30:06
Speaker 1: best life. No, I'm definitely living my best life. Man.
30:09
Speaker 1: It's like that when I jumped out of that that helicopter,
30:12
Speaker 1: my whole I hit the next phase, uh you know
30:15
Speaker 1: of my life in a way that um this this
30:19
Speaker 1: last year has been the best year of my adult life. Jumped.
30:22
Speaker 1: I was. I thought the movie wasn't gonna happen. I said,
30:27
Speaker 1: damn it. Then he said he was swimming with shocks.
30:31
Speaker 1: Damn well I heard you won't say, well that is
30:34
Speaker 1: nothing your wife could do, Miss j D. Pickets. Fifth
30:36
Speaker 1: to break up the relationship? How did as a husband?
30:39
Speaker 1: How do you know that? Um? Now, we you know,
30:42
Speaker 1: we we've we've been uh wildly tested, you know, we
30:46
Speaker 1: we have we have we we have tested each other.
30:49
Speaker 1: You know we we have attested um our commitment uh
30:55
Speaker 1: to the partnership. We've tested our commitment to our famis Emily.
31:00
Speaker 1: And you know there's a certain amount of of let's say,
31:07
Speaker 1: battery that you have to subject each other two in
31:11
Speaker 1: in order to know that you really down, you know,
31:15
Speaker 1: and you know it ain't not and I'm talking about
31:17
Speaker 1: on the breakfast club. But whatever, your whatever, your next
31:22
Speaker 1: question is your next question, whatever your because no I
31:29
Speaker 1: can because I've been watching you. I know your ignorant patterns.
31:32
Speaker 1: You got a patterns you Yeah, you got to set up.
31:35
Speaker 1: You do the set up, and then your eyes do
31:37
Speaker 1: this little thing and you sit back, you put that,
31:39
Speaker 1: you put an innocent face on, and you love one
31:41
Speaker 1: out and then you come with the one that you
31:43
Speaker 1: don't have that ain't none of your I just wondered,
31:48
Speaker 1: did you ever were you ever jealous of the love
31:52
Speaker 1: Jadahead for Tupac uh Oh fuck yeah, God, that dudelet
31:58
Speaker 1: like and you know, and that was in the that
32:00
Speaker 1: was in the early days. Yeah, that was in the
32:02
Speaker 1: early days. And it was like, um, that's that was
32:05
Speaker 1: a big regret for me too, because I could never um,
32:08
Speaker 1: I could never open up to interact with with Poc,
32:12
Speaker 1: you know, and because we had a little bit of
32:13
Speaker 1: a thing, right because you know, um, you know, they
32:17
Speaker 1: grew up together and you know, they loved each other,
32:20
Speaker 1: but they never had that you know, they never had
32:23
Speaker 1: a sexual relationship, but they had come into that age
32:26
Speaker 1: where now that was a possibility. And then Jada was
32:29
Speaker 1: with me, you know, so you know, Poc had a
32:32
Speaker 1: little thing on that, um, but she just loved him
32:35
Speaker 1: like he was the image of perfection. But she was
32:39
Speaker 1: with the fresh prince, you know. So it was like
32:42
Speaker 1: I just I never could like even we were in
32:45
Speaker 1: the room together a couple of times, I couldn't speak
32:47
Speaker 1: to him, you know, and you know he wasn't gonna
32:50
Speaker 1: speak to me or but I wasn't gonna speak to him.
32:51
Speaker 1: But comment, no, that's what Jada would say all the time.
32:55
Speaker 1: She was like I'm telling you, y'all are so similar.
32:58
Speaker 1: You will you love him and I just never you
33:00
Speaker 1: know that that that was a huge regret of mine.
33:03
Speaker 1: I just didn't. I couldn't. I couldn't handle it. You know.
33:06
Speaker 1: I was just I was the soft rapper from Philly
33:08
Speaker 1: and he was bocked right. Nothing exactly exactly, but yeah, no,
33:15
Speaker 1: I was deeply, deeply um uh insecure um and just
33:21
Speaker 1: I wasn't mad enough to handle that relationship. I go,
33:24
Speaker 1: I gotta go, guy, So we got a relationship stuff
33:31
Speaker 1: either one of y'all feel like y'all got something to proove.
33:34
Speaker 1: Um Now, No, I don't feel like I have anything
33:39
Speaker 1: to the pool, but I'm not finished. I felt like
33:41
Speaker 1: I got so much more to do because where they
33:44
Speaker 1: give you a lot of shit, like they talk about
33:46
Speaker 1: a cold streak you're having at the box office, and
33:48
Speaker 1: you know it was like one time you was larante
33:51
Speaker 1: like does that stuff bother you? Like? You know what it's? Um,
33:56
Speaker 1: I have I transitioned from my material world journey to
34:05
Speaker 1: my inner journey, and not in a weird way, just
34:08
Speaker 1: in a way is I gotta be okay with me?
34:10
Speaker 1: I can't give a fuck what anybody thinks, and it's like,
34:14
Speaker 1: I don't even look at the box office anymore. I
34:17
Speaker 1: don't even want that in my mind, comparing myself to
34:19
Speaker 1: what other people doing. And I had a brief moment
34:22
Speaker 1: there where I got stuck on the rock, you know,
34:26
Speaker 1: and he doing all these billion dollar movies, and I
34:28
Speaker 1: got stuck in and that that animal woke up again.
34:31
Speaker 1: But I was like, you know what it's like, Um,
34:34
Speaker 1: I realized, there's never enough. You'll never earn enough money,
34:37
Speaker 1: You'll if you stick yourself on sex, you'll never have
34:40
Speaker 1: enough sex, You'll never have enough of anything in the
34:44
Speaker 1: material world. So I'm into my space now where I'm
34:47
Speaker 1: letting go of that and I just gotta be good
34:49
Speaker 1: with me. I gotta walk around happy and comfortable with me,
34:53
Speaker 1: no matter what the fuck nobody else think, you know.
34:56
Speaker 1: And That's where I'm at right now, kind of detoxing
34:59
Speaker 1: my addiction to numbers and wins in comparison. That's wow,
35:02
Speaker 1: because you're Will Smift and you're Martin Lawrence, Like, there's
35:05
Speaker 1: no you should be in competition with nobody. But Martin,
35:08
Speaker 1: has Netflix approached you about doing a special or seriously?
35:11
Speaker 1: As you have the tour, you have all the comics
35:13
Speaker 1: you have yourself. No, Yeah, but I'm sure I could
35:15
Speaker 1: do one if I wanted to, with them and everything,
35:18
Speaker 1: but I don't want to just do one just to
35:20
Speaker 1: do do one. I want them to do one that's
35:23
Speaker 1: that's special, that that has some because I feel like
35:26
Speaker 1: you need to do a whole thing. I mean, you
35:28
Speaker 1: were mister deaf comedy jam. You can have you know,
35:31
Speaker 1: bring up some other up and coming comics, put them
35:33
Speaker 1: on and do your own name. Yeah, and maybe the
35:35
Speaker 1: lit tour. We may bring the littour to Netflix, all right,
35:39
Speaker 1: but we appreciate you guys for we can talk about
35:41
Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff. Keep doing, Keep doing what
35:44
Speaker 1: y'all doing, you know, wall the time. Yeah, it's a
35:47
Speaker 1: really unique voice, and you know, you give voice to
35:50
Speaker 1: people that would be voiceless otherwise, you know. So you know,
35:56
Speaker 1: I love what you're doing. And uh, I've been dude.
35:59
Speaker 1: You know you got another gear and I'm looking forward
36:01
Speaker 1: to seeing my brother and you could take you guld
36:04
Speaker 1: take that ass? Would you take that? You guys have
36:07
Speaker 1: that it's crazy though, it has the balls too. Yeah,
36:12
Speaker 1: you don't want it to be no mistake, ye down
36:18
Speaker 1: to be sat. I invited you to come. I'm good morning,