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#732 "See No Evil" The Disappeared: Children, Trafficking, and Institutional Failure · Claymore: Become Who You Are

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_01: When I speak about the battle that we're in between truth and falsehood, good and evil, I often often refer to the deep state and the deep church.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_01: And when I asked how to define them, it takes more than an elevator speech to give examples.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_01: Today I want to do just that.
• 0:15
  SPEAKER_01: And I asked Tom Hampson, crime investigator and reporter back on the show.
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  SPEAKER_01: He he wrote, See no evil that lifts a veil, gives us a little glimpse of what that deep state and even the deep church looks like.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_01: Imagine a 13-year-old Guatemalan boy named Ever Reyes Megia, the U.S.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_01: Federal Government's Office of Refuge Resettlement, ORR, takes him into custody as an unaccompanied migrant child, then releases him to a sponsor in Alabama.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_01: Instead of safety or care, he ends up working 12 hour shifts at a Hyundai parts supplier operating heavy industrial equipment alone, unsupervised at night.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_01: He was far from alone.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_01: Hundreds of thousands of migrant children have been funneled into night shifts into auto plants, slaughterhouses, construction sites across the country.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_01: This is the human cost when those in charge prioritize money, ideology, and political narratives over the welfare of children.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_01: During the Biden years, four hundred thousand unaccompanied children crossed the southern border.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_01: The federal government accepted custodial responsibility for every single one, and we paid for it as taxpayers, roughly seventeen billion dollars in taxpayer money.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yet the system lost track of an estimated three hundred and thirty thousand children, three out of every four.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_01: Many ended up trafficked for labor and sex.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_01: When the Trump administration took office in 2025, they inherited a backlog of more than sixty-five thousand unaddressed notifications of concern about abuse and trafficking.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_01: NGOs running the shelters were almost entirely taxpayer funded.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_01: These were government contractors, not charities.
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  SPEAKER_01: Tom Hampson and two colleagues submitted a peer-reviewed paper documenting this disaster.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_01: It was rejected.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_01: Reviewers pushed abstract structural contradictions instead of accountability and demanded the paper be framed through ideology approved academic literature.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_01: This tragedy becomes even clearer when we contradict it with authentic Catholic teaching on immigration, especially in light of this.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_01: There was a recent 60 Minutes interview in April where three prominent American cardinals, Blaze Superch from Chicago, Robert McElroy from D.C., Joseph Tolban from Newark, they appeared together on 60 Minutes, and the segment highlighted their strong criticism of current U.S.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_01: immigration enforcement.
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  SPEAKER_01: They were against ICE and mass deportation efforts, framing them as conflicting with Catholic values.
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  SPEAKER_01: They also criticized the Trump administration for targeting Iran and its building of nuclear weapons.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yet the Church's teaching is far more balanced than this portrayal suggests.
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  SPEAKER_01: The catechism of the Catholic Church states clearly prosperous nations should welcome foreigners to the extent that they are able.
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  SPEAKER_01: However, political authorities for the sake of the common good may make the exercise of the rights to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions.
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  SPEAKER_01: Immigrants must respect laws, culture, civic duties of their host country.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_01: And finally, John Paul II taught this balance repeatedly.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_01: He affirmed the right to immigrate, so that's immigrate with an E, leaving a country because you're persecuted, etc.
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  SPEAKER_01: He said when it's necessary for survival, but insisted that nations had the sovereign right and duty to regulate immigration prudently for the protection of their own people, their own culture and the common good.
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  SPEAKER_01: He explicitly said illegal immigration should be prevented, while urging care for the vulnerable and addressing root concerns and causes abroad.
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  SPEAKER_01: John Paul II never endorsed open borders.
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  SPEAKER_01: He called for solidarity and also responsible governance.
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  SPEAKER_01: This stands in stark contrast to the progressive emphasis heard from some of the church leaders today.
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  SPEAKER_01: Catholic teaching rejects both heartless indifference and naive policies that endanger children or overwhelm societies.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_01: Tom, what compelled you to investigate the condition of unaccompanied migrant children?
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I first investigated a couple of years ago, and that's why we wound up doing uh trying to do an uh uh an academic uh investigation of it to see if we could get the academic people on board with with doing something about this problem and opened up a whole new whole new avenue.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_00: But uh it had been in the press about all these kids that were that had gone missing, and there was a claim that uh as many as 300,000 could be uh engaged in sex trafficking.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, my one of my interests in the Truth Alliance Foundation is to you know is to is to try our best to protect children.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_01: What should it assume and what did it assume?
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  SPEAKER_00: The same as a parent.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's most they literally are in loco parentis there.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_00: You know, they've used that uh term in a virtually every other area of the government.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_00: The uh school is in loco parentis, all these things, so they can make the same kind of decisions as a parent can, which is if they're claiming that that's what that's what they're doing, that they're operating on behalf of or in place of the parents, uh they need to do the provide the same level of protection that we expect of parents.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I'll tell you, if uh if three out of four of your kids wound up being sex trafficked with you as the parent, you would be in jail.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_00: And so every one of these people that's involved in this kind of negligence uh should be criminally prosecuted, as far as I'm concerned.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_01: Well, let's talk about what you what what you did find and and and a little bit about that pushback that you got.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_01: You know, there really is a cover-up going on, and it's uh, you know, this is a real moral question.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_01: When you think about these children, uh you have a 10, 11, a 12-year-old, you're pretty much defenseless when you get caught up in this, aren't you?
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_01: As a child in coming into a foreign country, you don't know what to do or where to go, and you don't see a way out.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_01: Unless we actually expose this and actually go in and help these kids, they're they're suffering every day.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_00: Well, somewhere in the back of my mind, I recall that there was a study done of um the people involved in the extermination of Jews and other undesirables in in Nazi Germany.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_00: And because the question was, how could people who seem to be normal, uh God-fearing, generally kind people become engaged in this machine that wound up killing millions of people, just killing them.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_00: Because it took a lot of people who would you would consider to be normal people to do that.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_00: And what what they determined in this study was that when you take this machine and break it into little pieces, nobody accepts responsibility for it.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's what we've got with these massive bureaucracies, with the academic community, with, you know, because you you have the Border Patrol picking up the kids, they turn the turn the kids over to ORR.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_00: ORR hires a nonprofit organization that takes them into the interior, and that nonprofit organization turns them over to some kind of permanent caregiver, and and then they go back and do the same thing again.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_00: So they they're not looking at it.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm I don't I they're not there to protect the child.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_00: This is what they internalize.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not here to protect the child, I'm here just to do this task.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_00: So in each task, they lose the responsibility or the sense of responsibility for the ultimate care and guardianship of that child.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's what really is has happened.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_00: I write in the article that we just posted that there was five organizations that were big organizations that were involved in moving the kids, and every one of them got billions of dollars over the course of the of the Biden administration, and 99% of their money came from the government, yet they're posing as being charities.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_00: Even Global Refuge, for example, used to be Lutheran immigrant, you know, immigration something, immigration refugee service or something like that.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_00: But it was a Lutheran organization.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_00: And uh all of these are organizations that are supposedly charities and yet they're getting almost all of their money from the government.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_00: Well, they're not charities, they are government contractors, they work for the government, and the government has made it convenient to do that because then they don't take the flak.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's this organization that's responsible.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's some, you know, somebody else.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_00: They can pass on the responsibility to whoever, whoever it might be, and yet they still maintain a requirement to oversee what those every one of those organizations are doing just as if they were their own employees.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_00: The problem is we can't look at it.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_00: If you if you want to look at it from the outside, nobody's answering the questions.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like we tried to get the cooperation of Health and Human Services, and they they wouldn't even respond to our contacts to them.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_00: And these these nonprofit organizations, they just simply would not cooperate with us at all.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_00: It's absolutely insane.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: We couldn't FOIA anything.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_00: I sent the FOIAs to the HHS, and there's nothing, they didn't even respond to them.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: Government information is supposed to be freely available to everybody if it's not private or some you know, there's certain restrictions.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_00: But generally you should be able to get almost everything the government has by FOIA if it's not published on their website.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_01: We even know this at the local level, trying to get trying to FOIA a local school board over a transing a child, they just stonewall you.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_01: Or they twist it and distort it or say they can't find this and they and they just put you off and put you off and try to wear you down.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_01: These people are getting paid, you know, so you have these volunteers that are trying to look into these things and doing these FOIA's in many, many cases, and you know, they do get worn down, and then they come back at you, you know, with the Biden administration, especially.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_01: I don't remember, Tom, the school board meetings where where uh some of these people would get FBI notices afterwards that they're investigating their positions on something.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_01: It'll scare somebody, and then that fear, you know, you feel alone and like you know, this fear of this oppressive evil is coming at you, and and people will shut up, you know, people will shut up.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, it's it's the it's like the whole thing.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_00: I look at that system as an evil system, no, no less than the Nazi system, because individually, the people that were involved in the extermination of all these uh so-called undesirables in in Germany and the the countries they conquered, individually they only did one thing.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like one guy would say, Well, I just I just made the cyanide pellets and I just ran this machine and made the pellets and shipped it over here, and somebody else says, Well, I just poured the pellets into this little container and I didn't see anything more of it.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_00: And the guy that's down there um you know, right on site, he says, All I did was pull this lever.
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  SPEAKER_01: I didn't You know, Tom, I can see it.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's like I didn't I didn't do anything.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's uh it it was some it's a system that's responsible.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I you know, I know so many people that vote for socialists, and we and we know we have this socialist, I should say communists, socialist communist self-proclaimer.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_00: Well, they're both socialists.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_00: Nazis were socialists too.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_01: Seattle, New York, and and again, these young people, if if you know, they need to understand, they need to hear this, that whenever the government gets too big, we do this, we lose this personal level.
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  SPEAKER_01: We we lose this personal responsibility for that individual person.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's why subsidiarity, bringing it down to the lowest level.
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  SPEAKER_01: This has always been the American way, and this is certainly the Catholic way, is to say, hey, there should be no government taking over what can be done at a lower a local level.
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  SPEAKER_01: And once you once you give that power over to the state, the state grows like a cancer, and then you lose, this is why the church is so against socialism, is because you lose the individual person in that story, to your point.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_01: You no longer see the child being sex trafficked, you just you know, you become just part of this, well, we're trying to do our best, but it becomes power and money.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_01: You know, how much money that did each one of those organizations get for tr for taking responsibility for one child was over 40,000, right?
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_00: It was between it was on average forty-three thousand dollars per child.
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  SPEAKER_00: So every single they made over more than three times what the cartels did on every child.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_01: So think about that.
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  SPEAKER_01: So in order for them to get across the border, the cartels demanded big money, and then these NGOs facilitate really this this this uh the the drug cartels who never were in uh trafficking to this point, to this largesse before, because it was so difficult.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: It's much easier to bring a little packet of drugs over.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_01: But the NGOs and along with the government made it very lucrative.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_01: And all of a sudden they got into it big time.
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  SPEAKER_01: Women coming across, and many of the children were raped before they ever made it across the border.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it was part of the part of the initiation to come across the border.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: The you know, the the coyote that took him across the border took us to whatever he wanted, to whoever he wanted.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_00: And these cartels made between the ranges between$3,000 and$15,000 per person.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_00: Per person.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_00: Well, they were cheap compared to what these NGOs, these so-called charities were making for the city.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_01: That's big money to them.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_01: You know, when you're talking about$8,000 American money, that's big money to these people that are fleeing because they're poor and persecuted already.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_00: Well, and they become indentured servants here.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: That's how they pay that money.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's on a lot of uh most of the time these people are paying the money with an IOU.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: And that what's held over that then that's over here in this country says we will kill your relatives back here if you don't pay up.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_01: And so these kids that are working like this and sex trafficking and and and in these long ships and these industrial plants or whatever they're doing, that money's not going to them.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_01: They're a college fund, is it?
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_00: No, and well, and the thing that's so infuriating about it, the church is involved in this whole thing from beginning to end, through they were moving them up through Mexico to the border, and they were moving them from the border to the interior.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so now I want to just bring up now that you brought that these really morally uh morally, I I'm trying to to to not frame it just so I'm attacking these cardinals, these three stooges on 60 Minutes.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_01: It's amazing that they'll tell the nation and anyone's listening about Trump and that you know they have TDS, of course, Trump uh derangement syndrome, and they'll just say, you know, that they're being mean, that ICE, they they use some real derogatory terms against ICE agents.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_01: And Tom, you can't make this up.
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  SPEAKER_01: That many of these uh cartel members, gang members, etc., are are being targeted by ICE because they're they're actually doing the same thing within these neighborhoods, the violence, the crime.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_01: We see this all all over the place.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_01: And and again, I I don't throw that around lightly.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_01: You know, these are so-called shepherds in the church, and there's a certain amount of respect I'm trying to say.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_01: And so I'm trying to keep my my calm right here, Tom, and not using uh any real derogatory language, otherwise we lose the moral ground, I guess.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_01: And but it has to be pointed out.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_01: It has to be pointed out.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_00: You know, there's only the Bible says there's only three kinds of people in the world.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_00: There's wise people that follow God's word.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_00: There are evil people that try to thwart God's world word, and then there's the fools that can't tell the difference between the two.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_00: They can't tell the difference between wise and evil, and so and though they wind up going drifting through life without any kind of guidance and following on one side or the other.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: But still, they're they're going in totally the wrong direction.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I I would say that these, you know, you you you can talk about the average citizen that may be uh lukewarm, you know, let's talk you know, the book of Revelation, right?
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_01: You know, either be hot or cold.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_01: Either understand this and reject it, my teaching, or but don't be lukewarm because I'll spew you out.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_01: But I could see the average citizen being not informed, not formed properly, but these cardinals were, Tom.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_01: These know what's going on.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_01: They're the most educated people in the in the world.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_01: They go through more school and more years of schooling and formation than anybody else.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_01: It's amazing what they have to go through and then to be promoted by to Cardinal.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_01: And these three all back up the LBGTQ ideology along with uh along with the the immigration policies, and they push back against uh this war in Iran.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_01: And look at war is never good, but you know, it's very clear that if Iran, and I'm getting a little off track here, but I just want to show the breakdown here, if Iran would get a nuclear weapon, you know, the the human devastation it would would would be incredible, right?
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yet, yet, I think that when you look at these individual children suffering like this, you know, I'd I'd rather have a bomb blow up on top of me, Tom, than than be an 11-year-old child being raped.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_01: We know that when they find these some of these children at least, they have been raped and every single orifice of their their body is bleeding when they find them.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, it's really sick what they're doing.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_01: And and most of them they say are drugged up uh when they're sex trafficked because of the pain.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_01: And that when somebody is raping them, they don't want this child screaming and crying, and they they they drug them up when they finally are their bodies, little bodies wear out, their organs are harvested.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_01: And and you you just can't make this stuff up.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_01: And before Trump came in and took this seriously and tried to change this thing and is working on changing it, this was just a free-for-all, wasn't it?
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's you know, just to just to give people a little bit of an understanding, we did an investigation in prisons in Illinois years ago, and I remember some of the stories of prisoners who were sexually abused by other prisoners that wound up killing themselves because they couldn't handle it.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: Now these are adults, these are adult men that uh that couldn't uh couldn't deal with that.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_00: Imagine what that does to a child when they are passed around by these different men on their way up from wherever they're coming from to the United States, and then once they get here, they wind up being put into some kind of sex trafficking ring.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_00: I just I just can't imagine why anybody would would look at all that all of that terrible things that are going on and see it bureaucratically, which is exactly what the whole system here is doing.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: And and all of those organizations that were getting billions of dollars, not only were they getting the money, they were they were advocating for more money.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_00: They're advocating for bringing more children in.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Catholic charities in one year made over a billion dollars.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: A billion dollars.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: A billion dollars in in a variety of different things.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't just moving kids from the border, but they they're there's like they're a government agent.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_00: I did uh the uh reports on the hunger industrial complex not long ago that exposes the the food pantry industry.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_00: Now it sounds really great to provide poor people with food, but they're not doing that.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: The the pro they're not they're not attacking hunger, they're just passing out food so that uh and the more food the better, because then the people running the whole system make even more money.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: The head of the um Greater Chicago Food Depository, which manages all the the food going to all the food pantries in Cook County, she makes five hundred thousand dollars a year.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: Well well, that's insane.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: This is the it it uh a a uh uh somebody in charge of a massive store distributorship like Costco that funnels food and Products to all the Costco stores in an entire region only makes$250,000 a year at most.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: So how can these people claim that they're doing they're helping the poor?
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_00: No, they're helping themselves and they are doing an intense job to try to promote more food going out, more food going through it so they can maintain their salaries.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: And the only reason why churches go along with it, the only reason is it's more convenient.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_00: The difficult part would be to get everybody involved in the church, go buy food, good food, not the garbage that's uh that's so-called donated by these corporations, and collect it and distribute it in their own uh food pantries like they used to do.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_00: But they're not doing that anymore because geez, I gotta go to the gotta go to my uh cabin this weekend.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: I don't have time to mess around with this, I'm just hire somebody to do it.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: So they hire Kate Marr and and have these their volunteers pass out this food that's really just a corrupt system to the core.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: When we stop living out our faith, when we stop seeing the person, and to your point, when we just become inward, very selfish, we stop and I know people that are voting socialists, and these young people are told them we're voting socialists because capitalists don't take care of the the poor.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, in i in reality, it's what you just said.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_01: I'm responsible for taking care of, first of all, of course, my family, my neighborhood, my community, be people involved in the church.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_01: When you see that human being, the best way to feed a uh a person is to your point, is to be there to see them.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_01: To see that person.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: That's the way this is done.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_01: You know, when they just become a a an object to use, either sex trafficked or used in these industrial plants, or just used as as fodder to feed, you know, like uh like a bunch of sheep, and and that's all they care about with no real shepherd.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_01: When we start to think about what we can do, we have to look at the truth of things, don't we?
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_01: You know, when church shepherds or this propaganda or it's somebody trying to push your article down so that the truth doesn't get exposed, we have to to first of all pray on this thing, and second of all, be that light that exposes this stuff for what it is, because the ideologies and the propaganda are getting to these young people, and they don't know the foundational teachings of the church and how it all came about.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_01: So when they hear three cardinals on 60 minutes, they think that's the church's position, Tom.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_01: That the borders and we heard this from Pope Francis, just open the borders, and we saw the destruction taking place, not only what we're outlining here, but the whole takedown of uh Western civilization, like you see in the UK, in Italy, Germany.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_01: It's uh it's it's amazing.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like John Paul said, you know, nations have a right to preserve their cultures.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_01: Otherwise, um, you know, you let this flooding come in and it's violence, it's war, it's you know, people don't understand each other.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_01: You you have to have some common rallying point, you know, uh around a belief system.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_01: Otherwise, it all goes to hell in a handbasket, doesn't it?
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's for sure.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I was asked, well, these food pantries, for example, they do help some people, and that's true.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_00: They help some of the people that come in there are poor and they do need food and they do help them.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_00: He says, so isn't it enough that you're helping some and let the other people, you let the rest of the system be corrupt and you're still doing something good?
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_00: And the only thing I can think of is you know, Hitler did some good things too.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_00: He built some great roads, and we even copied his the Audubon system created by Hitler.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: We cop it's called the Eisenhower Interstate System.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_00: Eisenhower saw those roads and says, hey, we need to we need to do that here in the United States, and that's exactly what we did.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_00: But that does that make the does that make the uh uh the system tolerable?
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_00: Well, here's the problem.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely not.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_01: Well here here's what I mean in in practice, this is what happens.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_01: The government grows, takes care of this, and they tax the hell out of all of us, so that we in reality we really don't have discretionary income to give to the the poor ourselves.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_01: So the government assumes that responsibility, taxes the heck out of you.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_01: You know, when you take a dollar out of my pocket and the government takes it, there's gonna be peanuts left over.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: Now, if I take a dollar and I go to my local church and we fund a food pantry, that whole dollar goes to that person.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we don't take anything off the top, and because it's volunteers giving right out of their pocket.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_01: And the second thing I see the person in front of me, I start to have empathy for them.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_01: I start to bring my kids and my grandkids there with me, and we start to do this work.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_01: And when we start to do that work, we start to get a heart for individual people.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_01: So what can we do, Tom?
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_01: We can really push back against this uh bureaucracy.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_01: And we need to stand up and and things like and start to protest against these high property taxes and these high taxes.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and you know, if we don't, then yeah, then we just to this point we say, well, we can't do anything.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_01: We throw up our hands and you think about this, Tom.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_01: I'll leave you with with this last thing.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_01: You know, God Himself only has 10% in a tithe, right?
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_01: 10%.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_01: The government gets is now when I add up my taxes.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_01: I just did my taxes not long ago, pay almost 50% when you start to think Fed tax, property tax, state tax, city tax, licensing feeds, food taxes.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_01: I, you know, you just get gasoline tax.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_01: Tom, you just add these things up, and the the truth is you really don't have as much to give to these, you know, the churches and stuff.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_01: So you say, hey, you know, let the government take care of it.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_01: I don't have any money left.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_01: And it may be right.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_01: You know, socialist systems always make us all poor.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_01: And then they take the money and they spread it around.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe this could be the image we leave with young people and for older people to push this down.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_01: Socialism always is going to take all the money, feed this big bureaucracy, and these guys have the power.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_01: The rest of us, the millions, just become useful idiots and are controlled very easily by the governments.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_01: And and so at the end of the day, you lose your freedom, you lose your heart for other people, and it's it's it's a corrupt system that that shouldn't exist, and we have to push back against that.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: Well, a lot of that money is going to the vendors they hire to take care of these problems, too.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, of course.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_00: That's my point.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_00: Look at this the money, the money in taxes to help these in uh uh um uh unaccompanied minors.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_00: Seventeen billion dollars of it went to these organizations that all they did was move the kids from one place to another.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_01: It costs us$17 billion to have kids sex trafficked and labor trafficked.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_01: That's what it did.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's disgusting.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's disgusting.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's a complete, not only a waste of money, it's money spent for evil, is what it has.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_01: And we funded that.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_01: You know, as we close there, Tom, I we could do a whole show on the Iran conflict.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, but but the target here, let me let me just make this point at least, again, just to clear that up, because I brought it up in the beginning of a show with these cardinals, um, you know, again, targeting war.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_01: Look at nobody likes war, let's face it.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_01: But at the end of the day, here's a historical perspective from the church.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_01: Because we we're the only nation that actually dropped a nuclear bomb.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_01: And so uh at the end of the day, you know, the this uh one of the popes, Pope Pius XII, was looking back on this.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_01: He reigned from 1939 to 1958.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_01: So he was there during World War II, right?
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_01: And he was there when the bomb was dropped.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_01: And he said this, again, I put on put context on the Trump administration targeting nuclear weapons.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_01: For context on how the popes have addressed grave global concerns, consider Pope Pius XII.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_01: In the late 1940s, shortly after the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, he warned that the nuclear bomb was the most terrible weapon that the human mind has ever conceived.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_01: In his 1955 Christmas message, he described the horror of future nuclear war, entire cities annihilated, he said, leaving only the inconsolable weeping of humanity.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: Pius XII spoke prophetically about the existential dangers to humanity.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_01: Today, some voices in the church treat uncontrolled migration surges and the exploitation of children as secondary issues compared to other political priorities.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_01: And I guess Iran should be able to develop a nuclear bomb.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_01: On both of those issues, Tom, this is not our teaching.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_01: And the Trump administration should, in essence, save uh humanities, basically these terrorists that are gonna hell hold the world hostage if they ever get a nuclear bomb.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_01: So these are complicated issues, Tom, but for these uh cardinals and church leaders just to come out and blatantly make these these types of remarks, it just shows their socialist agenda, which is really at the end, uh this is an unbelief system.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's really sad what we're what we're seeing, you know.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_01: And and we we've basically thrown out God and and church teaching, and they're developing a new paradigm, a new way to be human.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_01: And dude, there is no new way to be human, you know.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_01: Uh you know, this this is very clear all the way from Genesis all the way through to to where we are now, and they and the Declaration of Independence says that we are one nation under God.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_01: Our rights, our our equal the all the equality, all these these uh social uh justice issues, they all flow from God, first of all.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_01: And and unless you keep this vertical eye up toward God, the rest of this thing will will unravel.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_01: There's it it just it has throughout history, and you know that Thomas, but as well as anybody else.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_00: Well, one of the things I think that people don't understand, the vast majority of people don't understand how radical these groups are over in Iran.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_00: These radical Islamists there actually welcome the apocalypse.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_00: They want the apocalypse to occur.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_00: So if they have a nuclear weapon, they're not going to be deterred by any normal deterrence because they will they will attack and bring it bring it on, bring on the attack against us because the apocalypse will trigger the return of the 12th Imam and Islam will take over the world.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_00: That's what they believe.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_00: That it is better to die than not not have Islam advance.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_00: To die in the advancement of Islam is automatic entry into paradise.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_00: And paradise, you remember what you get in paradise?
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_00: Right, 72 virgins.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and think about this, Tom.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_01: You know, people just pass that off.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_01: You know, here I am, I'm gonna die as a martyr for Islam.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna get my 72 virgins.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_01: And what are they gonna do to those 72 virgins?
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_01: They're gonna rape them.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, there's 72 virgins don't want some some uh some sick, demented, lustful guy going down the line using 72 of them.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_01: And does he love them?
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_01: Does he care for them?
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_01: Does he care for the children that come out of it?
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you know, it's it's it's such a sick goal.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_01: Thomas, good to be with you, brother.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, thanks everyone.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for joining us today.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_01: We'll talk to you again soon.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_01: Bye bye.