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Utah Mammoth Road to Playoffs, Utah Football Has No Spring Game, Utah Jazz Expansion Draft and MLB · DnA Sports Recap

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SPEAKER_02: You are looking live here in beautiful Salt Lake City, Utah, here at DNA HQ.
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SPEAKER_02: On today's episode of the DNA sports recap, the Utah Mammoth are in a playoff race.
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SPEAKER_00: Let's break it down.
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SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_00: And Utah football, no spring game this year.
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SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about that.
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SPEAKER_02: For the Utah Jazz, expansion draft is on the way.
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SPEAKER_02: All that and more, my name is Darren.
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SPEAKER_02: All right, let's go ahead and talk a little bit about your Utah Mammoth, shall we, AJ?
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SPEAKER_02: Let's get into it.
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SPEAKER_02: All right, man.
2:20
SPEAKER_02: So let's go ahead and get into it, man.
2:21
SPEAKER_02: So since last week, the mammoth have uh had some losses, a little bit of ups and downs going on for the Utah Mammoth.
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SPEAKER_00: They didn't get a good win, too.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So they had they have a five-and-two loss to the Oilers.
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SPEAKER_02: Yep.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, which uh shout out to uh Connor McDavid, by the way, uh, for hitting his 400th goal against us, which is always nice.
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SPEAKER_02: Utah has experience with uh other professional teams like setting records against us, so that's par for the course of the.
2:47
SPEAKER_02: Might as well just keep going with it, man.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_02: Might as well.
2:50
SPEAKER_02: And then also you think that would be the mentioning of you know giving up five goals would be the worst defense we had this week, but actually that's not the case.
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SPEAKER_02: The mammoth also lost to the Capitals 7-4.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, they gave uh Alex uh sorry, Alex Ovechek, Ovin Ovechkin, sorry, Alex Ovechkin uh a hat trick in that game.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, which uh Vitek uh Vanichek allowed six goals on 23 shots before he's got pulled for uh pulled for Veggie in the third period.
3:22
SPEAKER_02: Which when did uh Veggie not start?
3:25
SPEAKER_02: When did that happen?
3:26
SPEAKER_02: They I think they alternate him.
3:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, do you think it was just like uh I think it was I think he was just alternated in, yeah.
3:31
SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah, because there they're all there's been quite a few games.
3:34
SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of slotty games and more to more on that to come there.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:38
SPEAKER_02: Uh but uh yeah, they uh again, they also came back with uh got back on the horse there with a couple of good wins.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and one of their big wins was against the the LA Kings.
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SPEAKER_00: Um that 6'2 win was it was crucial, man.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, with the playoff race the way that it's currently going, that was essentially like a four-point game because they're in the standings, right?
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SPEAKER_00: That two-point win swings at a full four points because it was two points that the Kings couldn't get from them.
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SPEAKER_04: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: So big time win um in that victory, and it really just kind of helped, you know, continuing to cement their odds to actually make the playoffs.
4:13
SPEAKER_00: Um, as at the time of recording, they got a 94% chance of making the playoffs, which is fantastic.
4:19
SPEAKER_00: This team has been playing great hockey.
4:21
SPEAKER_00: Uh obviously, we got a lot of youth out there.
4:23
SPEAKER_00: It was really nice to get Alex Kerfoot back, um, who was you know returning from injury.
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SPEAKER_00: He'd been he'd missed nearly 50 games due to injury.
4:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
4:31
SPEAKER_00: Um, and I mean, really, this was this was a win that they it was kind of one of those must-haves, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Like we were we were we had a two or three point lead, but but this one really helped cement that.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, so it was really good to see him get the win against Kings.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
4:46
SPEAKER_02: Over the last week, there's about uh eight points to be had.
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SPEAKER_02: I think six would have been ideal, but getting four and having that come against the Kings was that win against the Kings was huge.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
4:56
SPEAKER_02: Um, I think he would have uh if it wasn't the Kings, we ended up beating like the Orioles and lost to the Kings.
5:02
SPEAKER_02: That would actually have been worse.
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SPEAKER_02: Correct.
5:03
SPEAKER_02: You know, so they also got a win over the wild as well, five to two.
5:06
SPEAKER_02: Uh, as you mentioned, there they're sitting at 82 points for the Mammoth right now, uh, which is five points ahead of the second place wild card spot, which is the Nashville Predators.
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SPEAKER_02: Utah still, as you mentioned, 95% chance for a playoff berth.
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SPEAKER_02: But they were actually only six points ahead of the Kings and the Jets and seven over the Sharks right now.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So there's it is it is a tight playoff race for sure.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, if they lose some ground here, it you could be out in one game.
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SPEAKER_00: And and the scary part is is almost falling into that second wild card spot.
5:35
SPEAKER_00: Did you see this?
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SPEAKER_02: Yes, because if you fall in the second wildcard spot, then there's gonna be a whole bunch of of uh matchups and and some of that uh the matchups get real messy.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it starts to get a real head-to-head, you know, it gets really kind of skeptical.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because if they if they fall into that second wildcard spot, they potentially have to play the Colorado Avalanche, which is one of the top teams in hockey right now.
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SPEAKER_00: That that's not a place you want to go.
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SPEAKER_00: This this is a team that could potentially win the whole thing this year.
6:02
SPEAKER_00: Um and and then if you happen to get out of the Avalanche, then you gotta go play the Stars or the Wild, which is also two really tough matchups.
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SPEAKER_00: So they just need to stay in that number one wild card spot.
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SPEAKER_00: The other thing that could potentially hurt them is if the Oilers do surge and get a couple wins, and they win the Pacific, uh, the the Pacific division, then you got to go play the Oilers again in the in that first round.
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SPEAKER_00: So either one of those teams could could really be tough.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's almost like you want the avalanche to keep winning, yeah, and then you take the second team.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because you have to play the Orioles or the Oilers again the in the next six games.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
6:42
SPEAKER_02: You have them again after you just got your handed to them, basically.
6:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
6:46
SPEAKER_02: And then you have to face them in the playoffs, which was not something you want to do.
6:49
SPEAKER_02: But also, what I was actually thinking about more about AJ is actually some of the tiebreakers if the you if the Utah Mammoth fall into that second spot.
6:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Because, you know, we could potentially fall into a second spot where we're gonna be tied with two other teams, plus uh, because they're they're they're both at um the the the after the shark after the predators, the the kings and the jets are tied for the next spot.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then you also have the sharks, which are only one point behind them.
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SPEAKER_02: So depending on how they played each other throughout this season, could play a lot into the tiebreaker spot, not even talking about what happens in the playoffs, but there's a good chance if they fall into that second wild card, they could be one bad game and and one other team's playing well, yeah, could kick you out of the playoffs altogether.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so while there's only a 5% chance of them falling out of it, it's not a done deal yet.
7:39
SPEAKER_02: Correct me if you've ever heard this before, but Utah uh can control their own fate.
7:43
SPEAKER_02: Let's just hope that they do a little bit better than the boys up on the hill about doing that.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and they've got to win like four or no, six of the next eight, I think.
7:51
SPEAKER_02: They have six games remaining over the next ten days.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, they got eight remaining total, right?
7:57
SPEAKER_02: I could be wrong on this one.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I think they got eight games remaining, but I think if they win, once they win four of them, depending on the other teams, you could know if you're a lock at that point.
8:06
SPEAKER_00: So after four points, depending on what the other teams do, they can actually win it.
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SPEAKER_00: They can be confirmed.
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SPEAKER_02: I only have eight, six games.
8:12
SPEAKER_00: I guess I must have got the schedule wrong, but I got them at 38.30 and six, which is what sixty-eight seventy-four?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, 82 games left in the schedule.
8:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, eight games.
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unknown: Okay.
8:24
SPEAKER_02: I don't know why I think there's only six games left.
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SPEAKER_02: Anyway, too many beers.
8:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's gotta be what it is.
8:29
SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, so again, in the next 10 days before they wrap up the regular season, we've got like again, this is done what August, April 16th is when the regular season concludes.
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SPEAKER_02: So we've got a few games left, a few more to wrap up of the regular season.
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SPEAKER_02: Tough games ahead is the Edmund Oilers.
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SPEAKER_02: Again, we play them again.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh uh they are a playoff caliber team, obviously.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, who we just lost to, and then you also have the Carolina Hurricanes.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, they're a well-put-together team, and they're gonna be tough.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, so those two I'm kind of thinking is, you know, those are potential L's coming our way.
9:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
9:00
SPEAKER_02: You know, if we could push them into OT and get a point out of that, that'd be fine.
9:03
SPEAKER_02: I I mean, that's what you could shoot for.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you just got to keep edging towards that playoff number.
9:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
9:08
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
9:09
SPEAKER_02: And then we also have some other games that are coming up against uh the players that against some of the teams that we actually have.
9:14
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, out of those, we I think we need about four wins.
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SPEAKER_02: Four wins to really lock in that spot at that time.
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SPEAKER_00: And depending on where those wins come, it you can either lock in your spot a little sooner or a little bit later.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes, because then you can knock out some of those other bubble teams.
9:26
SPEAKER_02: Yep, actually.
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SPEAKER_02: Like the sharks and stuff like that.
9:29
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, we want to hear from you folks.
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SPEAKER_02: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below when it comes to this.
9:33
SPEAKER_02: Um, I mean, 95% chance, you know, there's only that would be a pretty bad collapse if they fell out of that.
9:39
SPEAKER_02: So let's hope that that doesn't happen.
9:41
SPEAKER_02: But how exciting is that, man?
9:42
SPEAKER_02: Year two into a professional league, we have, you know, we're gonna have an HL playoffs here in Salt Lake City, Utah, man.
9:48
SPEAKER_02: That's fantastic.
9:49
SPEAKER_00: That is it's it's such a cool thought.
9:51
SPEAKER_00: And realistically, you just you're just hoping this team kind of just stays dialed in on getting recovered after games, staying healthy, staying focused.
9:59
SPEAKER_00: Um, go out there, keep winning hockey games.
10:02
SPEAKER_00: Everything's gonna be as long as you go out there and win, everything will take care of itself.
10:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I see in my notes where I screwed up.
10:07
SPEAKER_02: Six games the next 10 days.
10:09
SPEAKER_02: Okay, that makes sense.
10:10
SPEAKER_02: Eight games total.
10:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so that's basically where I got there.
10:13
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, but yeah, that's a lot of there's a lot of back-to-backs in there, too.
10:16
SPEAKER_02: Like the you play the hurricane.
10:17
SPEAKER_02: Dude, hockey has a crazy schedule.
10:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's been fun to watch.
10:21
SPEAKER_02: Um, it's been really fun to kind of understand this sport and be new to hockey and really kind of understand it and and kind of learn along with it.
10:28
SPEAKER_02: So it's been great.
10:29
SPEAKER_02: Um, are you guys new to the hockey scene?
10:31
SPEAKER_02: Or are you longtime NHL fans?
10:33
SPEAKER_02: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
10:35
SPEAKER_02: Uh, are you guys excited about this team?
10:37
SPEAKER_02: We want to hear from you.
10:37
SPEAKER_02: Let us know.
10:38
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
10:39
SPEAKER_02: All right, man.
10:39
SPEAKER_02: So let's go ahead and jump into it, man.
10:41
SPEAKER_02: There's just a couple of subjects we wanted to talk about when it comes to the youths uh this week.
10:45
SPEAKER_02: Um, as a reminder, folks, we're in the middle of spring uh right now.
10:49
SPEAKER_00: There's it ends spring practices, absolutely.
10:52
SPEAKER_00: It ends, I think, later this week, right?
10:55
SPEAKER_00: No, I think they have two weeks left or a week and a half left.
10:59
SPEAKER_00: I think it's the end of next week.
11:01
SPEAKER_00: End of next week.
11:02
SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay.
11:03
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, so folks, we want to talk to you about uh a little bit of what we got is coming out of spring uh camp here.
11:09
SPEAKER_02: The first thing we want to talk about is what dropped a couple days ago, and it was announced there will be no spring game, uh, no forever 22 game in the 2026.
11:18
SPEAKER_02: Uh that's was announced by Morgan Scaly.
11:21
SPEAKER_02: Uh, they they state the reason for this is they're opting for that additional practice, a lot of new faces, want to get them app acclimated and all of that good stuff.
11:30
SPEAKER_02: Um, AJ, I'm not satisfied with that answer.
11:34
SPEAKER_02: No, I'm not satisfied with that answer.
11:37
SPEAKER_00: No.
11:37
SPEAKER_02: The real reason why I think they're doing this is because they're trying to protect their players from getting poached.
11:42
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
11:43
SPEAKER_02: And this is kind of screwing over the fan, in in my opinion, on this one.
11:47
SPEAKER_02: The Forever 22 game is a fun game to go to.
11:49
SPEAKER_02: You know, I've been to it with you actually.
11:51
SPEAKER_02: We actually went to one of these games together.
11:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
11:53
SPEAKER_02: It was a lot of fun.
11:54
SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, the spring transfer portal, you know, a lot of people say, Oh, well, the spring transfer portal was closed, so that's not a reason why they're not doing it.
12:00
SPEAKER_02: Um, and that's why, you know, it won't happen.
12:02
SPEAKER_02: They won't play.
12:03
SPEAKER_02: But that's not that's not actually true.
12:04
SPEAKER_02: Right.
12:05
SPEAKER_02: It's kind of like a soft transfer portal.
12:07
SPEAKER_02: Essentially, what these players could do is they can unenroll for school from school, yeah, from the University of Utah, um, and then just re-enroll to the next highest bidder.
12:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
12:15
SPEAKER_02: And then there you go.
12:17
SPEAKER_02: You're in time for fall camp.
12:18
SPEAKER_02: No transfer portal needed.
12:19
SPEAKER_02: You know, in and out, what have you.
12:22
SPEAKER_02: Just just jump like that.
12:23
SPEAKER_02: And you know, that actually actually happened to us last year uh with uh Zacharias Williams.
12:28
SPEAKER_02: Uh he bailed um on us uh after balling out in spring game against uh and then you know in spring game he balled out.
12:35
SPEAKER_02: You know, we talked about it on that episode, yeah, how well he performed.
12:38
SPEAKER_02: And then, you know.
12:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, shortly after, right after the spring game, he entered the transfer portal and went to UCLA.
12:43
SPEAKER_02: Here come the Trojans, baby.
12:45
SPEAKER_00: No, UCLA.
12:46
SPEAKER_00: No, it's USC Trojans, wasn't it?
12:50
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
12:50
SPEAKER_00: I I was thinking it was UCLA for some reason.
12:53
SPEAKER_02: Could it be the UCLA?
12:54
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
12:55
SPEAKER_02: Both of them are down there.
12:56
SPEAKER_02: You guys let us know in the comments.
12:57
SPEAKER_02: We're not even in the same class anymore.
12:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, who knows?
12:59
SPEAKER_02: Uh but yeah, so it could be UCLA uh as much as well.
13:02
SPEAKER_02: The Bruins?
13:03
SPEAKER_02: Really?
13:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay.
13:05
SPEAKER_02: The Trojans.
13:06
SPEAKER_02: That's what I was thinking, yeah.
13:07
SPEAKER_02: You guys let us know which one's right, which one's wrong.
13:09
SPEAKER_02: It's probably if he's probably right.
13:10
SPEAKER_02: Uh, but yeah, I mean, Aaron Dunn also uh committed to the Utes, uh, was committed to the Utes and then flipped to USC uh as well.
13:18
SPEAKER_02: Um you know, while I understand while they're doing this, AJ, I totally understand why they're doing it, I still don't like it.
13:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
13:27
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm not sure I like it either, but like you said, this is all the Utes effort to protect the players that they've already recruited, right?
13:38
SPEAKER_00: Because the fact is, is after a good spring game, they've just had too many players jump into the portal.
13:42
SPEAKER_00: And yes, that spring transfer portal window is gone, but it's it's too easy for these players to just still make a clean break and get out of whatever it is they've committed to.
13:54
SPEAKER_00: So this is this is a keep the roster intact move 100%.
13:59
SPEAKER_00: Um I I think it does add some value, right?
14:02
SPEAKER_00: Like just like Morgan, Morgan Skelly said, one additional practice for this team.
14:06
SPEAKER_00: It is going to help a team who is just doing everything they can to build as much cohesion as possible.
14:13
SPEAKER_00: Um, and that this team needs chemistry.
14:17
SPEAKER_00: Uh that they're they're going to do everything they can to keep to keep building that.
14:21
SPEAKER_00: So is it the primary reason?
14:23
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely not.
14:24
SPEAKER_00: Um, but the but the fact is this team has high expectations for themselves, right?
14:28
SPEAKER_00: But I mean, we as fans have high expectations for this team this year.
14:32
SPEAKER_00: So as a diehard Utes fan, um, anything that they can do to prep to better prepare for this fall season, I'm good with.
14:40
SPEAKER_00: If they can keep the roster intact, I'm good with it.
14:43
SPEAKER_00: So I'm all in.
14:45
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I will miss this game.
14:46
SPEAKER_00: It it does hurt my heart because we have had some good times there.
14:49
SPEAKER_00: It is a fun game to go watch.
14:51
SPEAKER_00: It's nice to get out there on a nice April day and go watch some Utah football.
14:55
SPEAKER_00: So it hurts, but I'm good with it.
14:58
SPEAKER_00: I understand the reasoning for sure.
14:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I get it too.
15:00
SPEAKER_02: It makes sense, but honestly, man, if I see more than two or three player moves after this, you know, spring camp is over, I'm just gonna say, you know, two or three people moved last year.
15:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, bring the damn game back.
15:13
SPEAKER_00: Let's just bring the game back.
15:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think this year should be the year where we decide because some of this poaching happened last year when a lot of other Big 12 teams did not have a spring game.
15:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so we're one of the last ones that kind of did, and and I don't know.
15:24
SPEAKER_02: It kind of been detrimental, and maybe maybe Morgan Scaly's just testing it out to see what happens, but we'll uh we'll see for sure.
15:30
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
15:31
SPEAKER_02: Uh let us know what your thoughts are, folks, in the comments down below.
15:33
SPEAKER_02: We'd love to hear from you.
15:34
SPEAKER_02: Uh, what do you think about the uh forever 22 spring game?
15:37
SPEAKER_02: Um, are you gonna miss it?
15:38
SPEAKER_02: Are you not gonna miss it?
15:39
SPEAKER_02: Are you like AJ and just like look, it keeps the team together, I'm all for it.
15:42
SPEAKER_02: Uh and are you gonna go to that fan fest thing they're gonna do instead?
15:45
SPEAKER_02: Let us know what your thoughts are.
15:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, maybe they're that's weird.
15:48
SPEAKER_02: Just doesn't feel right.
15:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
15:50
SPEAKER_02: Um speaking about be building team cohesion, AJ.
15:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh, this is something we actually wanted to launch into because this is actually an article that was posted on SI.com by Cole Forsman uh that titled that was titled How Utah is Viewed by College Football Analytics Rankings Going into the 2026 season.
16:09
SPEAKER_02: Uh this article states that Utah has fallen from eighth going into the 2025 season all the way down to 25th.
16:16
SPEAKER_02: Uh so the SP Plus rankings is a prediction model uh that answers the question of how good will this team be this season knowing what we know now.
16:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
16:27
SPEAKER_02: Right.
16:28
SPEAKER_02: Uh it does take into account things like returning production, uh, recent performance, coaching, continuity, and recruiting basically is kind of the key drivers for this.
16:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
16:40
SPEAKER_02: Uh bottom line is that uh there's just been too much change for this Utah staff and players.
16:45
SPEAKER_02: Uh the fact that they are still in the top 25 isn't nothing.
16:49
SPEAKER_02: I think that's where I want to highlight this is that this isn't nothing.
16:52
SPEAKER_02: Being in the top 25 when you've completely redone the majority of your coaching staff and you've reset a lot of your players, um, there's only really two teams in the Big 12 that are ahead of you uh that you really want to focus on.
17:07
SPEAKER_02: And honestly, it's the two that you predicted, right?
17:09
SPEAKER_02: The two that finished ahead of you in the in the polls in the rankings last year anyway.
17:13
SPEAKER_02: Right.
17:14
SPEAKER_02: Uh, which was BYU at 18 and Texas Tech, obviously.
17:17
SPEAKER_02: Uh, they were at number five, I believe, uh in the rankings there.
17:21
SPEAKER_02: So I don't know, man.
17:22
SPEAKER_02: What's your take on this?
17:24
SPEAKER_00: I think what surprises me most is when you dig, when you break in like when you dig into that SP model, it shows it breaks it out individually for offense, defense, and special teams, right?
17:32
SPEAKER_00: Right.
17:33
SPEAKER_00: And the the current rankings it has Utah, the offense ranked at 18th, the 30, the defense is ranked 34th, and the special teams is ranked 74th.
17:43
SPEAKER_00: So last year, like you mentioned, they were ranked eighth.
17:46
SPEAKER_00: And with that eighth ranking, it had the offense ranked sixth, the defense ranked seventeenth, and the special teams, crazy enough, also at 74.
17:57
SPEAKER_00: So I understand the drop-in offense, right?
18:00
SPEAKER_00: Eighth to eighteenth, fair enough.
18:01
SPEAKER_00: Kevin Kevin McGivin, as great as I think he is, he was not as hyped as Jason Beck coming into this.
18:08
SPEAKER_00: Um so I I understand that, but also you have offensive players now that are proven commodities, right?
18:16
SPEAKER_00: Bert Ficklin had a breakout year.
18:19
SPEAKER_00: He's backing up a Devin Dampier that we know can produce at Division I football level, which we didn't know last year.
18:25
SPEAKER_00: Right.
18:26
SPEAKER_00: The big question was is Devin Dampier talented enough to come from the Mountain West Conference and produce in the Big 12?
18:34
SPEAKER_00: We know that to be a fact now.
18:35
SPEAKER_00: So, yes, we got some O-line issues, but that far of a fall based on an offensive coordinator, I think is a little sketchy.
18:44
SPEAKER_00: Uh because that's it.
18:45
SPEAKER_00: That's the, I mean, I like I said, a few O-line issues, but we got some great O-line recruits and and some talented guys still returning that were that have that have played a ton of football for the U.
18:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
18:55
SPEAKER_02: See, I think that's what I think that's where the confusion is uh between us and the national media.
18:59
SPEAKER_02: The national media is definitely gonna be, or the National College Analytics for Football is gonna see the head coach transition much bigger than we are.
19:08
SPEAKER_00: Right.
19:09
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
19:09
SPEAKER_02: They're gonna see a 20-plus year vet of Utah head coaching walking out the door and taking his program with them.
19:15
SPEAKER_00: But these guys have got to know that Morgan Skelly's taking the program over.
19:18
SPEAKER_02: Yes, but they don't know him any any better than like when um Kalani Sataki took over uh BYU after being the defensive coordinator at Oregon State.
19:25
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
19:26
SPEAKER_02: Right?
19:26
SPEAKER_02: That's how they're kind of seeing it, right?
19:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so they're gonna be like, okay, yeah, yeah, he's a Utah guy, and yes, his defense has been part of Utah's, you know, bread and butter for the last 10 plus seasons, or however long it's been, but they're gonna see that part.
19:40
SPEAKER_02: Like, okay, their their continuity, their 25, you know, 20 plus year rock at the head coaching position, guy who's been there forever, is now gone.
19:50
SPEAKER_02: And he took his offensive coordinator and a bunch of his offensive talent with him.
19:54
SPEAKER_02: You know, this is gonna be a hit, huge hit for them.
19:57
SPEAKER_02: I think that it would have been a much bigger hit if it wasn't for the fact that Morgan Scaly was there.
20:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
20:02
SPEAKER_02: I think they're I think they're taking that head coaching spot and they're giving it a lot more credence that I think we would really do it.
20:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
20:08
SPEAKER_02: Just because we know the program a little bit better.
20:10
SPEAKER_00: See, but I think the defense is the defensive drop from 17th to 34th is what is what really kind of set me for it.
20:17
SPEAKER_00: Because that's a that's a massive drop.
20:19
SPEAKER_02: Yes, but you also got to remember, you know, again, it's a defensive coordinator coming in that wasn't part of but he's still on the roster, he's still there.
20:26
SPEAKER_00: That's true.
20:27
SPEAKER_00: It's not like he's not still heading up the defense, right?
20:30
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's heading up handing over to Colton Swan, who's been with the program 10 plus years as well.
20:35
SPEAKER_00: True, but again, it's but you did lose some you did lose some talented guys, exactly.
20:38
SPEAKER_00: Right.
20:38
SPEAKER_00: You got you lost John Henry Daly, who was an all-American, you know, at the defensive end, went to Michigan.
20:44
SPEAKER_00: Uh Smith Snowden, who's you know, all big 12 cornerback that um obviously went to Michigan as well.
20:51
SPEAKER_00: You know, you lose Lander Barton to the draft.
20:54
SPEAKER_00: But I mean, you look at it and it's like John O'Hall played a ton of really good reps.
20:59
SPEAKER_00: He was in there, you know, the Logan Fono, I mean, he was good.
21:02
SPEAKER_00: He's going to the NFL.
21:04
SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure if he was really ready.
21:06
SPEAKER_00: I think his brother was ready, and he was like, let's do it together.
21:09
SPEAKER_00: But I mean, you got Lance Holt's claw that had a bunch of great games that's gonna come in for the D-line, and and you still have the coaching consistency.
21:16
SPEAKER_00: I I don't know if I agree with that far of a drop off on the defensive end, but I am a Utah homer, so it happens.
21:24
SPEAKER_02: He is our resident homer, folks.
21:26
SPEAKER_02: Yes, we gotta have that glass is completely full.
21:28
SPEAKER_02: Don't know what you're talking about.
21:29
SPEAKER_02: Stop pouring, it's all over the table, kind of uh take on things.
21:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh, but yeah, as a kind of a I I don't agree with this either, to be honest with you.
21:37
SPEAKER_02: I think that's too far of a drop, especially where you have BYU at 18.
21:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, so I mean they're not I mean they're they I think the only really reason they're different between them and and Utah in that case is gonna be the coach consistency, the continuity of coaching.
21:53
SPEAKER_02: I think it's really kind of playing big.
21:54
SPEAKER_02: So that's kind of where I think, like I'm saying before, hanging my hat on that, because I think they're treating that.
22:00
SPEAKER_02: With a lot more weight than we are.
22:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:01
SPEAKER_02: I think.
22:02
SPEAKER_02: And I think they're going to be surprised.
22:03
SPEAKER_02: So just yeah.
22:05
SPEAKER_02: It's going to be interesting.
22:06
SPEAKER_02: We want to hear from you folks.
22:07
SPEAKER_02: Let us know what you think of the uh SP rankings, SP plus rankings.
22:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
22:12
SPEAKER_02: Let us know what you guys thought.
22:13
SPEAKER_02: What you what your thoughts are in the comments down below when it comes to that.
22:16
SPEAKER_02: Um, do you think this ranking is off like we think it's off, or are you uh in line with this one?
22:21
SPEAKER_02: Uh do you think that uh we're gonna see a bit of a re a bit of a regression from last year?
22:26
SPEAKER_02: Um I do I do think the University of Utah is gonna regress a little bit from last year to from last year to this year.
22:34
SPEAKER_02: I do have them saying staying within one win of the same record, but I do think that there is gonna be some growing pains early on.
22:40
SPEAKER_02: And luckily we have a favorable schedule.
22:42
SPEAKER_02: I think that's gonna counteract that a little bit.
22:44
SPEAKER_00: I totally agree.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: I think we got a favorable enough schedule that we can get some wins early and get some confidence going into that tail end of the season that gets a little tougher.
22:51
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
22:52
SPEAKER_02: Jump in the comments, folks, let us know.
22:53
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
22:54
SPEAKER_02: All right, let's go ahead and pivot on over and talk some Utah Jazz, shall we?
22:57
SPEAKER_02: All right, folks, let's go ahead and jump into a little bit about the Utah Jazz man, and I am super excited about this.
23:02
SPEAKER_02: It was announced just last week that the NBA Board of Governors has approved uh to explore bids on expansion teams from Vegas and Seattle.
23:12
SPEAKER_02: Um, so and again, did you hear about the target date on this?
23:16
SPEAKER_02: 2027?
23:17
SPEAKER_02: 2028-29 season.
23:19
SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay is when they're planning on starting.
23:21
SPEAKER_02: So it's going to be the 2020 uh it's gonna be the off-season between the 2027-28 to the 2028-29 season.
23:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
23:30
SPEAKER_02: That we're gonna have an expansion draft.
23:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
23:33
SPEAKER_02: Um, so knowing what an expansion draft is, uh Utah Jazz can protect eight players.
23:41
SPEAKER_02: So we want to know who you you would pick and why.
23:44
SPEAKER_02: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
23:47
SPEAKER_02: We know we both picked two players, and we're gonna kind of go over you know our reasonings behind why we're picking to protect these two players.
23:55
SPEAKER_02: Let's go ahead and go over the rules of how the expansion draft works first.
23:58
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
23:58
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
23:59
SPEAKER_02: So the rules are each team can each team can protect up to eight players and leaving the rest of their roster eligible to be taken.
24:07
SPEAKER_02: Each team can only be picked once.
24:09
SPEAKER_02: So once a player is picked from that team, that team is now out of the pool.
24:14
SPEAKER_02: All right.
24:15
SPEAKER_02: And so when it comes to the Utah Jazz, we already know a few players are gonna be keeping.
24:20
SPEAKER_02: Obviously, the projected starters of uh Lari, Marketin, Walker Kessler, Keontae George, Jared Jackson Jr.
24:28
SPEAKER_02: Those four are pretty much safe.
24:30
SPEAKER_02: They're not going anywhere, right?
24:31
SPEAKER_02: They're gonna probably protect those those four easily.
24:34
SPEAKER_02: But that leaves up four more, AJ.
24:36
SPEAKER_02: Sure does.
24:37
SPEAKER_02: And so I've picked two, you've picked two.
24:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:40
SPEAKER_02: Um, how do you want to go about this?
24:41
SPEAKER_02: You want to go with your first?
24:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, let me go with mine first.
24:44
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
24:44
SPEAKER_00: I think that the next player you protect in this is gonna be Cody Williams.
24:48
SPEAKER_00: Um, the guy's gotten much better year over year.
24:51
SPEAKER_00: I mean, his efficiency shot up from 41.9% on true shooting percentage up to 53.3% this year.
24:57
SPEAKER_00: Um, his usage rate has increased, but I think Cody creates the most, I think the most value he brings is that he's not a like a primary creator.
25:09
SPEAKER_00: I I think that he's he's done a good job increasing his assist percentage, lowering his turnover percentage, and really becoming kind of a complimentary piece to this jazz team.
25:20
SPEAKER_00: They're gonna need somebody just like that.
25:22
SPEAKER_00: He's got elite size, he's a good athlete.
25:25
SPEAKER_00: Um, if he can get it to where he can draw a few more fouls to generate some more points and become a little better of a scorer, I think Cody Williams is a prime player to keep on this team because of his size, his athleticism, his ability to score the ball, and I think he can become a better defensive threat.
25:45
SPEAKER_00: Cody Williams has got to be one of them.
25:46
SPEAKER_02: All right.
25:47
SPEAKER_02: No, I'd have to agree with you on the Cody Williams piece there, solely for the same reason that I picked the other two on my list.
25:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
25:53
SPEAKER_02: Just simply because of what this team has and what this fan base has endured basically for the last, gosh, three seasons.
26:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
26:00
SPEAKER_02: You know, Cody Williams has definitely got to be on that list.
26:03
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's a top, he's a number 10 pick.
26:05
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
26:05
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
26:06
SPEAKER_02: Which leads me into Ace Bailey, is the guy that I think we should protect in that.
26:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
26:10
SPEAKER_02: Now, uh this one's pretty obvious.
26:12
SPEAKER_02: Not sure that uh we need to get too deep into this one, but again, top five draft pick from last season.
26:18
SPEAKER_02: He's performed as expected.
26:20
SPEAKER_02: Uh check out our short and last week's video in regards to that.
26:23
SPEAKER_02: Do it.
26:24
SPEAKER_02: Um did you see that one by the way?
26:25
SPEAKER_02: I did.
26:26
SPEAKER_02: Nice.
26:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
26:27
SPEAKER_02: Um you have to uh great job, by the way.
26:29
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
26:30
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
26:31
SPEAKER_02: Um you do have to uh protect the highest pick that we've gotten in this Tankapalooza.
26:36
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
26:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
26:39
SPEAKER_02: Did we just do that whole thing with the wrong?
26:41
SPEAKER_00: It's fine.
26:42
SPEAKER_02: Just do that whole thing with the youth thing on.
26:44
SPEAKER_00: No, it was just a standard one.
26:45
SPEAKER_00: It was a general overlay.
26:47
SPEAKER_02: Fair enough.
26:47
SPEAKER_02: Fair enough.
26:48
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, so Ace Bailey, man, he's my pick.
26:51
SPEAKER_02: I think that's pretty obvious there.
26:53
SPEAKER_02: Uh, you gotta protect that guy.
26:54
SPEAKER_02: He's your top five pick, and the highest draft pick that we've had so far on this whole tank-a-thon, and you know, giving up not protecting your highest pick you've had so far during this whole, you know, slug fest that we've had to deal with trying to race to the bottom would be make no sense for me.
27:11
SPEAKER_02: Plus, he's playing at expectations, if not above, especially over the last couple weeks.
27:16
SPEAKER_00: Totally agree.
27:17
SPEAKER_00: Ace Bailey is an absolute lock, being your number five pick.
27:20
SPEAKER_00: You've invested a lot of time into him.
27:22
SPEAKER_00: He's got a lot of really good minutes this season because of the R it's still in tank mode.
27:26
SPEAKER_00: And I think Ace Bailey's only gonna get better and better the further we go.
27:30
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
27:31
SPEAKER_00: So the next one I got is uh probably the most controversial one, right?
27:36
SPEAKER_00: Because there's a lot of good players on this roster.
27:38
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna take Isaiah Collier.
27:41
SPEAKER_00: Make sure you guys leave a comment.
27:42
SPEAKER_00: Let me know what you think.
27:43
SPEAKER_00: I think Cody Williams and Ace Bailey are kind of locks.
27:46
SPEAKER_00: Isaiah Collier is my next one, but I want to hear from you guys.
27:49
SPEAKER_00: Isaiah Collier is just his growth this season is has again just been great.
27:55
SPEAKER_00: Um, his assists, I mean, I I think he's the jazz, the the all-time jazz rookie assist leader.
28:00
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
28:00
SPEAKER_00: Um the dude just goes out there and makes good decisions.
28:05
SPEAKER_00: He gets guys into positions where they can score the ball easily.
28:08
SPEAKER_00: Um, he's a wrecking ball when he goes down the lane.
28:10
SPEAKER_00: He can put the ball on the hoop.
28:12
SPEAKER_00: Um, he's just elite-level playmaking ability, and we are going to need that when some of these guys are off the floor.
28:19
SPEAKER_00: He's got to turn his defense up a little bit, but he doesn't play bad defense.
28:22
SPEAKER_00: I think he's a great fit.
28:24
SPEAKER_00: We got him really for a steal.
28:25
SPEAKER_00: He was a number one recruit out of high school, you know, had that great season or had a good season at USC, slipped a little in the draft.
28:33
SPEAKER_00: We got him the second round, absolutely stole him.
28:35
SPEAKER_00: I think Isaiah Collier is a guy you have to lock up.
28:39
SPEAKER_02: But let me know your guys' thoughts.
28:41
SPEAKER_02: That is quite a controversial one.
28:42
SPEAKER_02: I will have to say, I would not have protected him, honestly.
28:46
SPEAKER_02: But again, when you compare him to the field, who else would you protect above him that's currently on the roster right now?
28:51
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's not Kyle Philipowski taken in the same draft.
28:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, depending on if you're re-signing, if you if you're signed on to our conspiracy theory that we have a handshake deal with uh Nurkic, exactly.
29:04
SPEAKER_02: You don't really need Philipowski.
29:05
SPEAKER_00: Make sure you guys check that video out last week, by the way.
29:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was a good one.
29:08
SPEAKER_02: That was a good one.
29:09
SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, I would agree with you here.
29:11
SPEAKER_02: Um, do you want to hear what my last one is?
29:13
SPEAKER_02: I do.
29:14
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
29:14
SPEAKER_02: So mine is going to be the unknown draft pick we're gonna get this year.
29:19
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
29:20
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
29:21
SPEAKER_00: Oh, absolutely.
29:22
SPEAKER_02: You know, same reason as before, same reason as Cody Williams, right?
29:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um, you were not gonna give up the projected highest, potential highest draft pick that this team has had since NS Decanter, uh, way back in God knows when, right?
29:37
SPEAKER_02: Um, you have to, I mean, this would be the culmination.
29:40
SPEAKER_02: This is the last year this team's gonna be this bad.
29:42
SPEAKER_02: This is the last time we're gonna be racing to the bottom, and you qualify you, and let's say you get uh what's projected now to be a top five pick.
29:49
SPEAKER_02: You you're protecting Ace Bailey.
29:51
SPEAKER_02: Why would you not protect the number five pick in the most loaded draft we've had since 2003?
29:55
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely, it would make absolutely no sense just to let this guy walk, not protect him.
29:59
SPEAKER_02: So, again, this is gonna be happening after next season.
30:02
SPEAKER_02: So we draft a player, he's gonna be on the team for one year, and then after that year is gonna be the year he'll still be on a rookie skill contract.
30:10
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
30:10
SPEAKER_02: And you wouldn't not protect that guy, yeah.
30:13
SPEAKER_02: In a in a draft that's this loaded.
30:14
SPEAKER_02: So there are four folks.
30:16
SPEAKER_02: We had Ace Bailey, Cody Williams, Isaiah Collier, and this year's draft pick.
30:23
SPEAKER_02: Let us know where we're wrong, folks.
30:24
SPEAKER_02: If you have somebody else that you would rather have us protect versus not, we want to hear it.
30:31
SPEAKER_02: We want to let we want to hear from you guys.
30:32
SPEAKER_02: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
30:34
SPEAKER_02: You want to hear like a hot take on this one?
30:36
SPEAKER_02: I do.
30:37
SPEAKER_02: So there's gonna be like 14 players, right?
30:41
SPEAKER_02: They're gonna be picked by each team.
30:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
30:42
SPEAKER_02: And each team can only pick one player.
30:45
SPEAKER_02: So odds are this isn't gonna happen, but there's a chance that the Jazz don't even have a single player poached.
30:56
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
30:57
SPEAKER_00: They're one of the teams.
31:00
SPEAKER_00: You're like, mmm.
31:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
31:02
SPEAKER_02: There's there are only gonna be two teams that aren't gonna get a player poached on this, on this, and it would really be sad if the Jets were one of them.
31:09
SPEAKER_02: No kidding.
31:09
SPEAKER_00: They're like, you've got all your talent locked up, we're gonna pass.
31:12
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
31:13
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
31:14
SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, that's also an option here.
31:16
SPEAKER_02: Uh, but speaking of which, uh, this is something that's a nice little segue, by the way, into what we want to talk about next, uh, which is gonna be that unknown draft pick.
31:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
31:24
SPEAKER_02: Uh, so now this is an article that came out uh from um the Bleacher Report.
31:30
SPEAKER_02: Uh Zach Buckley um has in his latest mock draft has the Utah Jazz picking number two in this upcoming draft.
31:37
SPEAKER_02: Uh, this article uh has the Memphis Grizzlies winning the top spot uh and taking AJ DeBanza as the number one overall pick, uh, which would make sense because they just did just lose their power forward absolutely star power forward and triple J in a trade with the Jazz.
31:52
SPEAKER_02: I will consider that a loss because they did lose that trade.
31:54
SPEAKER_02: So um when I say lost in a trade, that's what I mean.
31:58
SPEAKER_02: Um but yeah.
31:59
SPEAKER_00: Miss you Taylor.
32:01
SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes.
32:03
SPEAKER_02: Um, I hope he has a good career, man.
32:06
SPEAKER_02: I really do.
32:06
SPEAKER_01: I do too.
32:07
SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, so no surprise, no surprise there.
32:09
SPEAKER_02: AJ DeBenz uh going to um Memphis on that one, yeah.
32:13
SPEAKER_02: Uh, which makes sense.
32:14
SPEAKER_02: But this article actually has the Utah Jazz taking Darren Peterson with a second overall pick.
32:20
SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, any player taken in the top three of this draft is projected to be a starter, you know.
32:26
SPEAKER_02: This is gonna be the most loaded drafts in the 23 years.
32:30
SPEAKER_02: So this gives the Jazz, you know, the most This gives the Jazz everything they've been needing.
32:37
SPEAKER_00: Yes, if they take Darren Peter, if they if this happens and the Jazz get Darren Peterson, this changes the whole trajectory of this franchise.
32:46
SPEAKER_00: He's the most NBA ready guard since Derek Rose, in my opinion.
32:50
SPEAKER_00: He could very well be the number one pick, like and it's only because a lot of teams are gonna have him.
32:56
SPEAKER_00: I mean, depending on who gets the number one pick, you could very well take Darren Peterson over AJ Debanza.
33:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, which is totally possible because you know, Memphis, while they have a decent guard right now, yeah, you can kind of see them leaning more towards like, hey, let's move on.
33:12
SPEAKER_00: Well, why don't you just play him next to each other?
33:14
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
33:15
SPEAKER_00: John Morant and Darren Peterson can play next to each other because if we take him, he's gonna play next to Keontae George.
33:19
SPEAKER_00: And Keontae George and uh John Morant are very similar players.
33:26
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
33:26
SPEAKER_00: I mean, as far as playing style, right?
33:28
SPEAKER_00: The way they shoot it, like the way they defend, I mean, all these things.
33:30
SPEAKER_02: Like they're very shooter, but yeah.
33:33
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, John Morant's an NBA superstar, but you see what I'm saying?
33:37
SPEAKER_00: As far as playing styles, they're very similar.
33:39
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna do the same thing.
33:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
33:41
SPEAKER_00: Darren Peterson's gonna play right next to him.
33:44
SPEAKER_00: So I don't know, man.
33:46
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it this guy's had a fantastic season at Kansas, 20.2 points per game, uh, 4.2 rebounds, 1.6 assists.
33:54
SPEAKER_00: He shot 38% from the three-point line, which is absolutely insane.
33:59
SPEAKER_00: Um, he he turned that production up when it went to the NCAA tournament and had 24 and a half points per game in the tournament.
34:05
SPEAKER_00: This guy's a top prospect for a reason.
34:08
SPEAKER_00: And if we can get a chance to get Darren Peterson, the Jazz have to take him.
34:12
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
34:12
SPEAKER_02: And I think the jazz are perfectly aligned for that because they weren't scared away from Ace Bailey.
34:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
34:17
SPEAKER_02: Right?
34:18
SPEAKER_02: They're not afraid of a little bit of controversy, and and that's kind of what happened with Ace Bailey.
34:22
SPEAKER_02: That's kind of happening a little bit with Darren Peterson, like checking himself out of games and stuff like that, going crazy mode for three quarters and then like okay, that's enough, and then pulling himself out.
34:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
34:32
SPEAKER_02: And then saying, Oh yeah, my hamstring's a little aggravated.
34:35
SPEAKER_02: I want to come out.
34:36
SPEAKER_02: And then just checking himself out of games.
34:38
SPEAKER_02: And a lot of people are like, oh, you don't want that on your team.
34:40
SPEAKER_02: You don't want that, you know.
34:41
SPEAKER_02: And I hope that that does keep uh anybody in front of the jazz from wanting to take him, because you're absolutely right, he could easily just be a number one overall pick.
34:50
SPEAKER_02: Uh, some are saying that it doesn't make a whole lot of sense that Utah would take uh Dylan Peterson over Cam Boozer, uh, which he should be in the mix because again, his dad has some great years here and he speaks fairly highly, but I just don't see that happening, man.
35:02
SPEAKER_02: Uh, if you have a chance to draft Darren Peterson over Cam Boozer, you're gonna do it because Cam Boozer, there's no point in drafting Cam Boozer because you just traded for Triple J last track.
35:12
SPEAKER_00: I think you're just creating a larger log jam.
35:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
35:14
SPEAKER_00: Like the Jazz are not at a point where you're taking the quote unquote most talented, you're taking the best player that fits your need, and this player feels that feels the jazz's need immediately.
35:25
SPEAKER_02: If they were to do something like that, that gives you like a huge neon growing, glowing sign, big and bright, saying, Hey, Ace Bailey, you're starting next year.
35:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're gonna get the run starting if they did something like that.
35:37
SPEAKER_02: I do think that if they get a chance to pick Dylan Peterson, they're going to, and it's gonna be uh Keontae, Darren, and then Ace will follow the bench, depending.
35:49
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I I think that's probably if if that's the way it goes out and Memphis gets the top spot and Utah gets the second one.
35:57
SPEAKER_02: I absolutely love that idea, man.
35:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely love it.
36:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
36:01
SPEAKER_02: Now here's a question for you.
36:02
SPEAKER_02: Let's say they take error, let's say they take Darren Peterson, Memphis does.
36:05
SPEAKER_02: And then you have a chance between AJ Debanza and uh Camboozer.
36:10
SPEAKER_00: You you gotta go by Dibanza at that point.
36:13
SPEAKER_00: I think he fits a little bit better in the scheme that you have.
36:17
SPEAKER_00: You move Ace.
36:18
SPEAKER_00: Ace is smaller than Dibanza, I think.
36:20
SPEAKER_00: Yes, he is.
36:21
SPEAKER_00: Same size?
36:22
SPEAKER_00: I think he's he's I think they're both six eight.
36:26
SPEAKER_02: Uh no, I think, yeah, he's six eight.
36:28
SPEAKER_02: And I think Defense, I thought he was six nine.
36:31
SPEAKER_02: I know his wingspan's longer.
36:32
SPEAKER_02: Similar sizes.
36:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
36:34
SPEAKER_02: But anyway, yeah, similar sizes.
36:35
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I honestly, man, I that's a good question.
36:38
SPEAKER_00: But Boozers, but Boozer's like a really solid 4'5 player.
36:42
SPEAKER_00: Right.
36:42
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
36:43
SPEAKER_00: He's he's a prime core type guy.
36:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
36:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
36:46
SPEAKER_02: He would be, yeah, so I I don't know.
36:48
SPEAKER_02: Like, I would I think you're right.
36:49
SPEAKER_02: I think you still take AJ.
36:51
SPEAKER_00: It's like you you need Darren Peterson.
36:53
SPEAKER_00: Like he's the he's the best fit.
36:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
36:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's the need in the draft that the jazz want.
36:57
SPEAKER_02: And you know, there's some other, you know, if the jazz fall and don't get number two, there's some other great guard talent down the down the lane, which we'll get into later.
37:04
SPEAKER_02: We'll go ahead and cover that in a future episode.
37:06
SPEAKER_00: And they're gonna be a top five pick.
37:07
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
37:08
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
37:08
SPEAKER_02: We'll cover that in the uh next episode there when we start covering, you know, what ifs going into the season, you know.
37:15
SPEAKER_02: Not exactly a whole lot to talk about when it comes to jazz basketball right now.
37:18
SPEAKER_02: Nobody wants to talk about jazz basketball.
37:20
SPEAKER_02: Except for us, Darren.
37:21
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
37:22
SPEAKER_00: That's what we do, exactly.
37:23
SPEAKER_02: And we also got uh triple J, triple jazz forge, JJ Jazz Forge.
37:28
SPEAKER_02: Let me know how I'm saying that, man.
37:30
SPEAKER_02: Uh, we've got the comment from you, AJ DeBanza, greater than uh Dylan, Darren Cramp Panza.
37:40
SPEAKER_02: I love it, dude.
37:41
SPEAKER_02: I love it.
37:42
SPEAKER_02: That's great.
37:42
SPEAKER_02: That's great.
37:43
SPEAKER_02: It's true, man.
37:43
SPEAKER_02: And you know, that's the controversy behind it.
37:45
SPEAKER_02: Everybody's kind of like, oh, you know, this guy doesn't want to want to suit up.
37:49
SPEAKER_02: You know, maybe he knows, like, hey, yeah, I'm getting paid right now, but my big payday is gonna be in the NBA.
37:54
SPEAKER_02: Let's just kind of get through this.
37:56
SPEAKER_02: There's a little bit of that.
37:57
SPEAKER_02: You can't blame him for that, but at the same time, you're just like, you know, you kind of want to show the league that you're gonna you're gonna put up, you know.
38:03
SPEAKER_00: And and if it's and I guess the big concern is is if you actually are cramping up and you actually are getting hurt, that's even more of a concern.
38:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, at the next level, for sure.
38:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, because the the players only get bigger, faster, stronger.
38:17
SPEAKER_00: You've got to be ready to play 30 minutes a night against the best basketball talent in the world in the game.
38:26
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely, you know, and it's not like Kansas doesn't have elite, you know, conditioning huge infrastructure.
38:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's like it's not like they don't have a way to hydrate you down there, you know, in Kansas.
38:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they got plenty of water, yeah, exactly.
38:39
SPEAKER_02: Um, we want to know what you think, folks.
38:40
SPEAKER_02: Let us know your thoughts are in the comments down below.
38:42
SPEAKER_02: Did you see this article uh on um Bleach Report when it comes to the jazz picking number two in the draft?
38:49
SPEAKER_02: Um, are you agreeing with us?
38:51
SPEAKER_02: Are you agreeing with Breach Report that that's like that would be situation one, man?
38:55
SPEAKER_02: That'd be absolutely golden for them to do that.
38:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so we want to hear from you folks.
38:58
SPEAKER_02: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
39:01
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
39:02
SPEAKER_02: All right, let's go ahead and talk a little bit about Major League Baseball.
39:06
SPEAKER_02: Let's do it.
39:08
SPEAKER_02: Are you ready for this, AJ?
39:09
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I'm so ready.
39:11
SPEAKER_02: Are you ready for this?
39:11
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
39:12
SPEAKER_02: Oh, this is gonna be good, guys.
39:13
SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be good.
39:14
SPEAKER_02: Okay, before we do this, let's do a pre uh debate cheers here.
39:20
SPEAKER_02: Cheers to you guys.
39:21
SPEAKER_02: Cheers to you guys.
39:24
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
39:26
SPEAKER_02: So Vice put out a video on YouTube earlier last week, and they were doing a breaking down the goat debate in Major League Baseball.
39:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
39:37
SPEAKER_02: No, like there's always just the great.
39:39
SPEAKER_02: You got in hockey, it's Gretzky.
39:42
SPEAKER_02: In basketball, it's Jordan, right?
39:45
SPEAKER_02: Football.
39:46
SPEAKER_00: And if it's not Jordan for you, just click off now.
39:49
SPEAKER_02: Just click off.
39:50
SPEAKER_02: We we will have that argument if you really want to.
39:52
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
39:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, if you want to come in here with the LeBron stuff, you know.
39:56
SPEAKER_02: I I like I said, click off.
39:58
SPEAKER_02: That's fine.
39:59
SPEAKER_02: That would be a fun debate.
40:01
SPEAKER_02: I don't think we want to do that video because I don't think any either one of us want to take it.
40:04
SPEAKER_00: I'm not.
40:05
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely not.
40:06
SPEAKER_00: Me and you can go back and forth about how great Jordan is, but we are neither one of us.
40:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, being the NBA fans that we are, can debate that LeBron James is greater than Michael Jordan.
40:16
SPEAKER_00: Definitely not, definitely not.
40:18
SPEAKER_02: So that's it's not gonna happen.
40:19
SPEAKER_02: But when it comes to Major League Baseball, it's always been one name and one name only, and that is George Herman Ruth the Babe himself.
40:27
SPEAKER_02: But is it still?
40:29
SPEAKER_02: And that's what we want to get into.
40:31
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
40:32
SPEAKER_02: The conversation today that we're getting into is we're both gonna pick a side, and we want you to tell us in the comments down below who do you think won this debate and who is your pick for MLB's goat?
40:43
SPEAKER_02: And that will be Babe Ruth versus Shohei Otani.
40:47
SPEAKER_00: Boom.
40:48
SPEAKER_02: We want to hear from you guys.
40:49
SPEAKER_02: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below before we get into this.
40:52
SPEAKER_02: Do you want to make your case first?
40:54
SPEAKER_02: Oh uh, I mean, yeah, absolutely.
40:57
SPEAKER_00: I'd love to, I'd love to get into my case.
40:59
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so we're gonna start with AJ.
41:01
SPEAKER_02: AJ, which side did you choose?
41:02
SPEAKER_00: Mine's gonna be an interactive, okay?
41:04
SPEAKER_00: Because I got questions for you as we're going here.
41:07
SPEAKER_00: And I chose Babe Ruth as the as the greatest, okay?
41:11
SPEAKER_00: And it's for a reason.
41:12
SPEAKER_00: I just got a question for you, Darren.
41:14
SPEAKER_00: Whatever Shohei Otani does, do you think he'll hold any career record for 39 years?
41:21
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
41:22
SPEAKER_00: Do you think it's gonna be the career home run record for 39 years?
41:25
SPEAKER_02: No.
41:26
SPEAKER_00: Babe Ruth held the career home run record with 714 career home runs.
41:31
SPEAKER_00: Now I understand Shohei is gonna pass that, but this record was held for 39 years of Major League Baseball.
41:39
SPEAKER_00: What was his total?
41:40
SPEAKER_02: 714.
41:41
SPEAKER_02: You think Show Otani's gonna hit more than 714 home runs in his career?
41:45
SPEAKER_02: He might.
41:46
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
41:47
SPEAKER_02: Okay, keep going.
41:48
SPEAKER_02: I love it.
41:48
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
41:50
SPEAKER_00: Career OPS.
41:51
SPEAKER_00: Babe Ruth, to this day, still the highest in Major League Baseball.
41:55
SPEAKER_00: 1.164, all-time number one to this day.
42:01
SPEAKER_02: Nice.
42:01
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
42:02
SPEAKER_00: Career slugging percentage 0.690.
42:06
SPEAKER_00: This guy dominated power hitting like no one has ever seen.
42:11
SPEAKER_00: He is still to this day all-time number one in career slugging percentage.
42:16
SPEAKER_00: He held, he had a single season home run record of 60 in 1927.
42:22
SPEAKER_00: This was absolutely beyond his time.
42:26
SPEAKER_00: This guy was just a legend.
42:28
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
42:29
SPEAKER_00: He led the major league, he led the major leagues in home runs 12 times.
42:35
SPEAKER_00: 12 times.
42:37
SPEAKER_02: 12 times.
42:38
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
42:39
SPEAKER_00: Led all of Major League Baseball 12 times.
42:41
SPEAKER_00: And wasn't even close.
42:42
SPEAKER_00: He was a seven-time World Series champion, had a career batting average of 342.
42:49
SPEAKER_00: That's that's insane, dude.
42:52
SPEAKER_00: I mean, the best hitters, the best hitters in the world hit 300.
42:57
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
42:58
SPEAKER_00: We had a whole video on on Aaron Judge about can he hit 300 on the average?
43:02
SPEAKER_00: 400.
43:03
SPEAKER_00: Oh, was it 400?
43:04
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
43:05
SPEAKER_02: Which he didn't, by the way.
43:06
SPEAKER_02: Spoiler.
43:06
SPEAKER_00: He didn't.
43:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
43:08
SPEAKER_00: So and that's just his hitting.
43:11
SPEAKER_00: That that's just him as a hitter.
43:12
SPEAKER_00: His career ERA.
43:14
SPEAKER_00: So you go into it as a pitcher, and obviously he pitched early in his career, didn't pitch so much later.
43:19
SPEAKER_00: Um you get old, you gain weight, it happens.
43:21
SPEAKER_00: It happens.
43:22
SPEAKER_00: The dude got fat, it happens.
43:24
SPEAKER_00: Um but still, as a pitcher, in his career, his career ERA was 2.28, which is insane.
43:34
SPEAKER_00: This guy's not throwing a hundred miles an hour.
43:38
SPEAKER_00: This this guy's probably throwing.
43:40
SPEAKER_00: And I googled a couple places.
43:42
SPEAKER_00: I couldn't actually find what his like average pitch speed was because I'm assuming they didn't have radar in 1927.
43:49
SPEAKER_02: No, but it's been assumed he's pitching in the upper eighties.
43:52
SPEAKER_02: Upper eighties.
43:53
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
43:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:53
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
43:54
SPEAKER_00: So upper eighties, which is which was fast for the time.
43:57
SPEAKER_00: At that time, fast, obviously almost.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: unhittable for a 2.28 career ERA.
44:02
SPEAKER_00: Um but at that time I mean during his during his season's pitching he was 22% better than league average with his career ERA.
44:13
SPEAKER_00: Which is very impressive.
44:14
SPEAKER_00: He had a 94 and 46 record as a pitcher with 17 shutouts.
44:20
SPEAKER_02: That's insane.
44:21
SPEAKER_02: 17.
44:22
SPEAKER_02: Didn't he have like 40 something career complete games or something like that?
44:27
SPEAKER_02: Um I didn't have that one.
44:29
SPEAKER_02: It's an insane number.
44:31
SPEAKER_02: It's a different game different type of game back then.
44:33
SPEAKER_00: A whole different game.
44:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
44:34
SPEAKER_00: I mean complete games were much more common back then.
44:36
SPEAKER_00: If you pitched you pitched the whole game.
44:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah you pitched the contact not strikeouts.
44:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah his best season was the 1916 season where he went 23 and 12 with a 1.75 ERA and nine shutouts.
44:47
SPEAKER_00: And then in in the World Series that he pitched in he had a 3-0 record with a 0.87 ERA and 29.2 consecutive scoreless innings which was a record at the time that it happened.
44:59
SPEAKER_00: Isn't it still a record?
45:01
SPEAKER_00: I'm sure it's still a record yes for sure I don't know anybody who's hit more he's done more than that but but I mean this guy this guy before he became an a full-time hitter babe Ruth was one of the best left-handed pitchers that baseball had ever seen and for him to transition from an elite pitcher to a great hitter it just makes this story that much better right because Shohei was a great pitcher or you know was a good pitcher and has become such a great hitter you know and he battled an injury and then had such a great hitting season and a great I'm sure I'm not going to go into too much because I'm sure you've got all the things that you're going to pitch on your goat.
45:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah maybe um but I don't know I that's all of that stuff put together dude babe Ruth was an absolute legend and I I just think I think that's enough to make him the greatest of all time that's a great argument man.
45:58
SPEAKER_02: That's a great argument.
45:58
SPEAKER_02: Babe Ruth will easily go down as anybody who knows baseball knows the name Babe Ruth.
46:05
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely and people that don't even know baseball know the name know the name Babe Ruth.
46:09
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely anybody who knows baseball knows the curse of the babe of the great bambino curse.
46:14
SPEAKER_02: The reason why Boston took over a hundred years to win a World Series is simply because of you know the fact they traded him.
46:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah and then he became this legend of seven what seven rings yeah with uh the Yankees yeah and the crazy thing about him man is is that this guy was 6'2 230 right this guy swung a bat that's probably about like half a pound heavier than anybody swings major league baseball today right just an absolute log this guy is swinging yeah and his bat speed is comparable to the average bat speed of today like the modern athletes that we have with their super light bat just an absolute freak and these are these aren't fully trained athletes in the 1920s right no these guys these guys still a lot of them still had full-time jobs yeah and well the thing the thing about Ruth is if if I always had this comparison with Ruth if babe Ruth was today was dropped down into major league baseball today right who would he be and I have a perfect comparison.
47:07
SPEAKER_02: I'm ready Mike Trout oh absolutely you know 6'2 230 like that's right around where Mike Trout is yeah his elite hitting his elite fielding you know and of course obviously Mike Trout has a injury history and has a hard time to stay on the field but absolutely man I absolutely love it um yeah babe Ruth is easily the greatest of all time when it comes to baseball um but uh here's my argument against that I'm ready so this is a debate for the show versus the babe right yeah and while I agree with you that there is no name baseball bigger than babe Ruth times are changing my friend I do agree times are changing there are people that if you showed Shohei Otani's face to around the world they'd be able to point out and say Shohei Otani Yeah that's Otani Otani people who don't know anything about baseball not even a country where baseball has a professional league you point out they go otani they know who he is yeah right not exactly the same thing you say about babe Ruth no absolutely not definitely more of an American household name baseball was started in the US yes it he helped grow the sport to being what it is but babe Ruth is the reason that Shohei Otani can come play baseball in the United States and become a household name yes he did go over to Japan um which for most of you people who may not know but here's my argument so Shoe Otani so let me just start with this 50 50 let's start there it's a tough number 5050 did uh babe Ruth ever hit 50 home runs and steal 50 bags in a season single season the the answer is no did he ever hit 50 home runs and steal 20 bags in a single season I don't think still no still no by the way yeah you can still say no um yeah and he did it in a rehab year AJ rehabbing from elbow surgery Shohei Otani hit 50 home runs stole 50 bags and not only did I did he do that he did that with one of the greatest games in baseball history that Babe Ruth could never touch.
49:11
SPEAKER_02: What's the most RBIs Babe Ruth ever got in a single game seven by the way he's got seven RBIs in a single game Shoeyotani has a single game RBI record of 10.
49:22
SPEAKER_02: 10.
49:22
SPEAKER_02: That's impressive.
49:23
SPEAKER_02: And he also stole two bags in that game to get to 5050 in one game AJ which has been deemed the greatest single season single game performance in baseball history yeah so nobody else in baseball has ever done that uh babe Ruth did the two-way thing which is what everybody talks about when you talk about Tani oh well babe Ruth did it you know no one's done that since Babe Ruth.
49:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah we can get past that a little bit because Babe Ruth only did that for two seasons and then stopped.
49:53
SPEAKER_00: Right.
49:54
SPEAKER_02: He pitched and hit for two seasons then once he went to the Yankees he switched to being a position player played right field and you know great fielder a great right fielder and the best hitter in baseball history hands down best slugger baseball's ever seen but Otani has already done it for legit three seasons while playing MVP caliber hitting year in and year out doing it.
50:16
SPEAKER_02: Now if the MVP was around during um you know Bey Ruth's time he'd have 10 of them he'd have them right he would have the MVP award that MVP would be his yeah but you can't argue against the fact that he Shoeotani hasn't played 22 seasons yet right absolutely Shoyotani has had three seasons where he's been an elite Psyung caliber pitcher while also being an MVP caliber hitter in the same year.
50:42
SPEAKER_02: It took Aaron Judge breaking the American League home run record to beat him for the MVP else he would have been a five times straight MVP winner.
50:51
SPEAKER_02: Right Shoyotani would which in two of those seasons he was rehabbing from injuries so if you're going to say you know oh you know he was the best two way player you know and and you know that like he also pitched and hit you can't compare the two otani has already surpassed Babe Ruth in my opinion as a pitcher.
51:12
SPEAKER_02: What's cut what's otani's career ERA right now?
51:15
SPEAKER_02: Well see that's the difference you can't compare you can't compare uh but I'm just saying even if even if he's six seven years in what's his ERA versus two eight three two eight three okay but uh shoyotani's case per nine is more like shoyo Tani's case per nine which is strikeouts per nine yeah is four times greater than Baby's was absolutely because again pitch to hit pitch to contact versus um strikeouts so I'd say if you're talking about the two year Shoyo Tani is currently better when he talks about just comparing a two-way star Shoyo Tani has already surpassed that one he's not as he's not as good as hitter I'll give you that okay well babe Ruth better hitter soyo Tani better pitcher Shoyotani better athlete Shoey Otani better base dealer yes he runs the bases Shoyotani is a five tool player if he wanted to play right field he could play right field if you want to play first base he could play first base you take Shoeyotani you put him on any position you could put Shoey Otani a catcher anywhere maybe not catcher a little too tall you put Shoyotani literally anywhere on the baseball field he is the best player at his position yeah you can't and I don't know anybody who would argue that.
52:25
SPEAKER_02: No so yes is Babe Ruth a better hitter absolutely 100 guarantee not even close in my opinion babe Ruth is the best hitter baseball has ever seen no comparison right but in my opinion does show is Shoyotani the better baseball player in when you compare all of history when his career's over and you look back I think I could say that Shoyotani was a better baseball player than Baeruth.
53:02
SPEAKER_00: I think as long as Shohei can stay healthy that will be the case as long as Shohei can stay healthy and stay on the field to help his team and like you said he can go wherever he wants and play any position but he's got to be able to stay healthy because if he has another you know season ending where he can't play defense whether he's pitching or playing first base whatever that is that will seriously tarnish Otani's uh legacy as far as being the best baseball player ever in my opinion.
53:34
SPEAKER_02: So Babe Ruth had 200 2873 hits in his 22 year career.
53:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah otani's gone through nine seasons so far as of March 1st he has 1,053 hits on track.
53:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah so in the next 13 years can he catch him possibly yeah um again babe is obviously the better hitter right has a higher slanging percentage you mentioned all the stats he still currently leads all major league baseball yeah is it possible for Shoyotani to catch him in hits is it possible to catch him in home runs probably not home runs I don't know I think that's a tall task the the pitching's a lot better now than it was when Babe was a hitter though.
54:09
SPEAKER_00: Lot lots better like we'll we'll we'll go there.
54:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah he was hitting bombs when people didn't know how to attack pitching is Shoe Tani going to play 22 seasons?
54:15
SPEAKER_00: Most likely not uh yeah good question I don't know you know what I mean like if he's what do you say nine seasons in?
54:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah after his 10 years contract is up in uh 2033 he'll be at 18 seasons he'll be at like 40 years old so yeah can he play a couple more years as a DH or as a first baseman possibly but is he gonna want to I could I I could see Shoheo being that guy that's like I've had enough.
54:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah see and Babe Ruth wanted to keep playing yeah and he after that he wanted to manage too so um yes do I think Babe Ruth is the greatest player in baseball right now yes I agree with you do I think Soheyo Tani has a chance to catch him and surpass him yes I think he does I agree I think Shohei can pass him but I think right now if we're talking the greatest player right now it's still Babe Ruth I'm gonna have to agree with you.
55:14
SPEAKER_02: Boom okay we want to hear from you folks let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below when it comes to the goat of baseball uh this is a debate honestly the fact that we're even having a debate on this already just tells you how impressive it is that cool though.
55:27
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean like the fact that we're having a conversation in our time and we're talking over a hundred years later that there's finally a player that's competing with Babe Ruth for the greatest player of all time that's that's the conversation that we wanted to have.
55:44
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah can you imagine taking Shoey Otani and dropping him in the 1920s.
55:48
SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh dude he would be raking could you imagine 80 mile like it would take him a few games to adjust to 85 mile an hour pitches but after that he's like I'm wondering why they're allowed to spit on the ball oh I guess yeah yeah that's a little crazy yeah but I mean he went through he went through before they before they banned substances and stuff on the ball.
56:06
SPEAKER_00: I mean he was still a hitter when they could put pintar on the ball and spin it well you couldn't put he never put it on the ball I know but you know what I'm saying I got away with it before the sticky stuff ban really happened.
56:17
SPEAKER_02: True true yeah yeah but ever since uh yeah it's different if you watch them wind up it's completely different.
56:23
SPEAKER_02: Oh completely like your timing would take a few games to get used to sure yeah but 80 miles an hour I don't care if that baseball is just as you know just as all muddied up and you couldn't tell from the difference in the dirt you gave O Tawny 80 miles an hour yeah down the middle he's yeah they they call that batting practice oh my gosh it would be so great imagine bringing babe Ruth in today's game like I said you got Mike Trout I I'm not sure babe Ruth could stay in today's game.
56:50
SPEAKER_00: I mean you're talking guys that throw on average 20 miles an hour faster I mean if you're the best pitcher throwing high 80s yes but the ball keep in mind that ball is sparkling white and they toss out a ball like they toss out a new ball like he's never seen a ball that clean.
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SPEAKER_02: Exactly so when he sees it coming at it you know 100 miles an hour yeah that probably to it take give him about a year and a half he'd adapt yeah I think he would adapt but yeah I agree athletes today you know it's tough to compare the two man such a fun conversation yes we want to know what your thoughts on the comments down below folks where is your take on this we would love to hear from you uh this is probably one of my favorite uh ones to research because that was a lot of fun that was a lot of fun yeah by the way special shout out to the vice video uh they had mad dog do it I don't know if you saw it but he's the one who basically spoke it I still have a beef with mad dog now that he even knows who I am first take man he just let Stephen A lay into him and talk about how this sport of baseball is dying and just let him run his mouth and didn't stand up for the sport that he covered shame on you mad dog shame on you step up next time man yeah for sure um all right we got a couple comments we want to hit here uh we got one uh from McKinley from a subject earlier ago uh McKinley says sorry I'm late but I uh late to the party gonna honest not a big fan of the most of the guards in this year's draft way too many of them are 6-0 honestly wouldn't be surprised if he measured under six feet yeah um you know how it's very well you've seen the show enough yeah you know Darren hates short guards yes it's literally I don't know what it is but the Jazz seem to have an addiction for it they have one these guys who claim to be 6'2 and basically are my height you know so yeah which your boy is not 6'2 so um yeah no it's it's fun we got a comment here from a friend of the channel Tammy Price uh let's see here currently uh show a currently has a scoreless inning streak and an on base streak running at the same time impressive very impressive thanks Tammy uh we also have another comment here it's so hard to compare players from different eras the game is so different different rules different equipment different standards yeah that's why this conversation is so great because you can have that comparison and I think probably one of the greatest ways to do that is a stat that we didn't go over which I'd actually probably want to compare is go with um you know ERA plus and OPS plus which basically take uh they take it up against their peers and their average and then go how many points above 100?
59:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah that tells you how good you are yeah probably should have reached that we probably should have pulled that stat.
59:19
SPEAKER_00: We probably should have but it's okay that was a that was a great take though.
59:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah it was it was a lot of fun a lot of fun um all right man so we got a couple more things we want to talk about baseball before we get out of here um we went a little long on that one man holy cow that was a long conversation that was a good that was that was a fun one though that was a lot of fun that was fun was a lot of fun okay um so AJ we had one year of baseball where we didn't have a consensus in the sport on who the worst umpire is in baseball um and we we went but now we went from Angel Hernandez uh to CB Buckner oh yeah man this guy's getting embarrassed out there by ABS ABS I mean the best part about abs is it's gonna keep you honest and and I've actually watched more baseball games over the last week than I probably have in years because I've already watched three Braves games I actually had the Mets game on today.
1:00:11
SPEAKER_00: Nice so and it's so nice because the the strike zones have tightened up a lot on on most umpires you're watching the ABS strike zone is is if it's close these umpires are making their best decision call but you find most of these calls are relatively close.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean like you're not they're not missing calls by two inches anymore.
1:00:34
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:00:35
SPEAKER_00: With the exception of CB Bucknort uh yeah and that Reds versus Red Sox game man eight of his calls were challenged six of them were overturned and I mean there was a there was a time where he had a called strike three that was overturned to a ball after a challenge the next pitch he called strike three again which was overturned again.
1:00:57
SPEAKER_02: Yes that was against a Eugenio Suarez yeah which the guy if you watch that if you get a chance to watch that at bat go ahead and watch it that's probably the most embarrassing at bat for an umpire I've ever seen in my life because he just called it strike three you're out he just like rings them all the way up yeah and he doesn't even get out of the box he just gets ready you know he's like yeah that's a ball like so sure about it which is so funny.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_00: Um I I just you know the the Red Sox manager was really good about it.
1:01:24
SPEAKER_00: I mean he ended up getting ejected um because of a check swing call um but he he went on to say it wasn't his best day it wasn't his best day as the understatement of the century okay thanks Coach Core appreciate it yeah he he really struggled um yeah I mean I it was funny because I was watching I was watching Instagram and saw a John Boy video.
1:01:45
SPEAKER_00: Oh this is against the Brewers that's it was a it was a different one but the Brewers was I that's another one I have a comment on but the John Boy video he was joking around saying anytime CB Buckner's behind the plate team should get three ABS challenges purely based on his percentage of overturned calls.
1:02:05
SPEAKER_02: I was like wow wow it's so bad man it is so bad.
1:02:09
SPEAKER_02: You feel yeah that first that first base call though yeah see that's what I want to talk about like yeah replay as a whole has been around for a while now absolutely yeah and you're thinking okay the ABS challenge maybe you just don't put CB behind the dish anymore yeah but oh my gosh in this game against the brewers you want to break down the call yeah absolutely okay so um oh I had the whole thing on here but anyways there's there's a hit hard hit ball short base short stop right yep Jake Bowers yeah for the brewers keep the ball hard running uh no it was actually hit at second base handles it overthrows the ball to first base the guy runs past clearly steps on the back it shows the replay and C.B.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_00: Buckner's not even looking at first base he's looking at the ball being thrown over the first baseman he doesn't he never makes a safe call so the Brewers did the right thing they appeal they throw down a first yeah throw down a first tag him out he calls him out that this calls very easily overturned and instantly from a challenge because he clearly stepped on the bag shown from 12 different angles of the camera and CD Buckner's face doesn't even change the whole time like he just oh okay I missed it.
1:03:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah it's so crazy.
1:03:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah you the it's so funny because the the call is that they throw it down so the cubs are like hey appeal throw it to first yeah so they throw it to first and then he calls them out right and then the and then the the the home plate umpire has to has to announce it though and he's like really yeah so he's like the the then the brewer's like no we're gonna we're gonna challenge that call and so they challenge it they go into review they get together they huddle and like you said it is clear as day he steps on the middle of the bag dude there is no objection that he did not like it'd be different if he called him safe and maybe he thought like the throw and and like you know like maybe he didn't like see the tag or anything but like if he called him out and you know there could have been some confusion there.
1:04:07
SPEAKER_02: So many options but the fact that he didn't make a call and his his thing is like oh I don't think he stepped on the base.
1:04:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah when he clearly like it's just you basically just said I'm not making a call here because I wasn't watching we're talking three quarters of his foot on the bag.
1:04:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah on the center of the bag center of the bag the ball sails over maybe he's worried about getting hit by the ball I don't know but you can't not make a call you got to just call safe because he saw the player go in the air it was like he forgot what he was doing.
1:04:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah he was just like appealed the call and he calls it out like obviously the easiest call to make if someone's throwing a ball and it goes over the head and you're not seeing the play you just call him safe because obviously he's pulled off the bag as he's jumping up and then let them challenge the call.
1:04:45
SPEAKER_02: Because then you know hey I I saw him come off the bag yeah you know I called him safe.
1:04:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah because if you weren't watching the play which he clearly wasn't then that would be a safe call to do.
1:04:55
SPEAKER_02: But no he didn't make that call he just did nothing and waited for them to appeal it and then he called him out and then on review clear as day you're like oh yeah I guess I didn't see him step on the bag at all like but why would you assume he doesn't touch the bag is my question.
1:05:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah like this is a major league baseball player playing in a major league game where he clearly saw the throw be overthrown you think he's gonna run over the bag it's less likely a possibility that the guy took his foot off the bag like the defender took his foot off the bag.
1:05:24
SPEAKER_00: The defender but if that's the case you call him safe by defect exactly yeah you just call him safe and let the managers challenge it.
1:05:30
SPEAKER_02: You're like hey I missed it did you guys get it you then you do the hull and you're like hey did you guys have that better I I had the player my way didn't have a good line of sight what do you guys got you know but no like the it it just proved just the absolute incompetence of this particular one and I'm just I'm flabbergasted by it man I just don't get it.
1:05:48
SPEAKER_02: You know and I I'm just loving this because this is the type of stuff we're gonna expect to be seeing more and more.
1:05:53
SPEAKER_02: What's really funny before that Reds game did you hear the call for the broadcasters?
1:05:57
SPEAKER_02: No I don't think so before the game happened he's like Like this one should be a good one.
1:06:01
SPEAKER_02: We should see a lot of good challenges from the ABS system because CB Buckner's behind the plate.
1:06:05
SPEAKER_02: So they even had the broadcasters call it right before the game happened.
1:06:09
SPEAKER_02: It was just absolutely hilarious.
1:06:12
SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
1:06:12
SPEAKER_02: We wanted to hear from you folks.
1:06:13
SPEAKER_02: You guys uh give us your take on uh the CB Buckner situation.
1:06:16
SPEAKER_02: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
1:06:18
SPEAKER_02: We'd love to hear from you.
1:06:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:06:20
SPEAKER_02: Um, all right.
1:06:20
SPEAKER_02: This is something we're gonna probably start doing each week, uh, is basically just kind of covering the power rankings, man.
1:06:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh just kind of breaking it down a little bit.
1:06:26
SPEAKER_02: Now, um, I threw it's not on there because I haven't refreshed it, but I actually threw in a link for the updated ones as of Monday.
1:06:34
SPEAKER_02: I actually saw these.
1:06:35
SPEAKER_00: Okay, good.
1:06:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, I did see these.
1:06:37
SPEAKER_02: Because I saw this and I was very happy for you.
1:06:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:06:39
SPEAKER_02: I was very happy.
1:06:40
SPEAKER_00: I was too.
1:06:41
SPEAKER_00: My Braves moved from 11th to 8th.
1:06:43
SPEAKER_02: Yes, it was 12th.
1:06:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
1:06:44
SPEAKER_00: Uh 12.
1:06:45
SPEAKER_00: That's even worse.
1:06:47
SPEAKER_02: The Braves went from 12th to uh to eighth.
1:06:51
SPEAKER_02: So uh, which is great, man.
1:06:52
SPEAKER_02: Uh the power rankings uh as it goes, we have the Dodgers uh at number one spot four and one, blue jays two at four and two, Yankees and Brewers are third and fourth at five and one, and then you have the Tigers fifth at two and four, Mariners sixth at three and four, and the Braves at seven, five and two, Mets three and three, Orioles three and three, Cubs three and three.
1:07:16
SPEAKER_02: Um, I don't have any argument with the top ten teams.
1:07:20
SPEAKER_02: I just kind of would like to know where their thoughts are.
1:07:22
SPEAKER_02: Is it basically just off of uh reputation?
1:07:25
SPEAKER_02: Because explain to me why the Blue Jays are ahead of the Yankees and the Brewers, and please explain to me why the Tigers are even in the top eight.
1:07:34
SPEAKER_00: At two and four.
1:07:36
SPEAKER_00: At two and four.
1:07:36
SPEAKER_00: Uh it's because Kevin McGonagall's having a great season.
1:07:41
SPEAKER_00: That's the only thing that I can think of.
1:07:43
SPEAKER_00: It's like this dude's been a star.
1:07:44
SPEAKER_00: Well, they're not winning.
1:07:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:07:46
SPEAKER_00: Like, oh, they have Terek Skubal.
1:07:48
SPEAKER_02: He's not pitching every day, guys.
1:07:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's not playing every game.
1:07:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so that makes no sense.
1:07:53
SPEAKER_00: Uh, the Tigers confuse me for sure.
1:07:55
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, Dodgers number one.
1:07:57
SPEAKER_00: The Blue Jays have looked good at number two.
1:08:00
SPEAKER_02: Um I think you can make an argument for the Yankees two, Blue Jays three.
1:08:03
SPEAKER_02: Just slowly how they played.
1:08:04
SPEAKER_02: The Yankees played um their first series was against the Giants, and I I think that's probably what's holding them back because the Giants with the new manager who's never brought never coached in the majors.
1:08:14
SPEAKER_02: But I mean, all three of those teams started three-0, right?
1:08:17
SPEAKER_00: So, like Dodgers, Blue Jays, Yankees all started real strong, had good outings.
1:08:21
SPEAKER_00: Um, I mean, the Yankees only allowed one run, get one run in their first three games, which is which is impressive.
1:08:27
SPEAKER_00: The Blue Jays held their opponents to a 157 batting average in those games.
1:08:31
SPEAKER_00: Um, so but I mean, you know, the Mariners are in there, the Braves are in there, the Braves looked great through their first few games.
1:08:38
SPEAKER_00: Um, they're four and two now after their win today.
1:08:41
SPEAKER_00: Um I don't know.
1:08:43
SPEAKER_00: The the The Tigers are the ones that confused me in that top 10, that's for sure.
1:08:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I guess they're just going off of reputation and how the team's built and expectations.
1:08:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:08:54
SPEAKER_02: I'm thinking maybe there, but yeah, Cubs 3-3, man.
1:08:57
SPEAKER_02: Um, they're you know, I don't know where to put that um in my mind there.
1:09:02
SPEAKER_02: I think they should be in the top ten.
1:09:04
SPEAKER_02: They are that good.
1:09:05
SPEAKER_02: Orioles, uh, they're doing well.
1:09:07
SPEAKER_02: Mets um also three and three makes sense.
1:09:11
SPEAKER_02: And I really like how they moved the Braves up because again, a lot of folks were expecting them pre-season to be um before all the injuries, considered to be a contender in the National League.
1:09:21
SPEAKER_02: So the fact that they're starting four and two with all the injuries, I think that's well warranted.
1:09:25
SPEAKER_02: I think that's that's great to see.
1:09:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:09:26
SPEAKER_00: The Brave the Braves have actually looked really good.
1:09:28
SPEAKER_00: Their pitching has looked really good.
1:09:30
SPEAKER_00: Their bullpen, surprisingly, has come out and been pretty dominant.
1:09:33
SPEAKER_00: The I mean Chris Sale pitched today with a cold and still threw six innings and was flawless.
1:09:40
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he had he had one slider that hung a little bit and gave up a home run, but if I mean the Braves still won four four to one, I think.
1:09:46
SPEAKER_00: So nice had his Jordan Flu game.
1:09:48
SPEAKER_00: Oh, nice.
1:09:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, so the Braves have looked really good.
1:09:52
SPEAKER_00: Um, I mean, really, Drake Baldwin, you know, the the rookie of the year last year, catcher that plays for the Braves.
1:09:59
SPEAKER_00: I think he drove in four.
1:10:00
SPEAKER_00: Maybe the Braves won five one, but I think he drove in four of those runs.
1:10:04
SPEAKER_00: So Drake Baldwin's playing out of his mind right now.
1:10:07
SPEAKER_00: It's been it's been really fun to watch.
1:10:09
SPEAKER_00: So nice.
1:10:10
SPEAKER_00: We want to know what you think, folks.
1:10:11
SPEAKER_02: What do you think about the power rankings there?
1:10:13
SPEAKER_02: Are you okay with uh the top 10 there?
1:10:15
SPEAKER_02: Um, is there anything changes that you would make?
1:10:18
SPEAKER_02: We want to hear from you.
1:10:18
SPEAKER_02: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
1:10:20
SPEAKER_02: Uh, we want to hear from you.
1:10:21
SPEAKER_02: We I want to hit a comment here from Havoc N45.
1:10:25
SPEAKER_02: I think I hope I'm saying that right.
1:10:26
SPEAKER_02: Uh, and some players uh had rule changes because uh how good they were.
1:10:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, exactly.
1:10:33
SPEAKER_02: There's yeah, when we talk about yeah, so you got the Shoyotani rule that's uh in place on that.
1:10:38
SPEAKER_02: By the way, do you hear that there's a there's a hole in that?
1:10:42
SPEAKER_02: So, okay, so with the AVS challenge system, right?
1:10:46
SPEAKER_02: So let's say you want to mess with it a little bit and you want to bring in you you have an opener, but you put Shoyo Tani in right field, right?
1:10:55
SPEAKER_02: So you put Shoyotani starting him in right field, right?
1:10:58
SPEAKER_02: So he's technically a position player as a starter, right?
1:11:01
SPEAKER_02: You have an opener, he pitches two innings, you pull him out, you put Shoyotani in to pitch the rest of the game.
1:11:06
SPEAKER_02: You can't challenge any of his pitch calls.
1:11:10
SPEAKER_02: Why is that?
1:11:11
SPEAKER_02: The ABS rule says no position player pitches can be challenged.
1:11:16
SPEAKER_02: No way.
1:11:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's in the rules.
1:11:19
SPEAKER_02: It's in the rules.
1:11:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you cannot challenge pitches from a position player.
1:11:25
SPEAKER_02: Because they typically come in, you only put a position player in during typically bull out games, right?
1:11:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, but if you're pulling in Otani to put him in.
1:11:33
SPEAKER_02: Dude, you know the Dodge are gonna use that when it comes playoff time.
1:11:36
SPEAKER_02: He technically qualified as a starter, right?
1:11:38
SPEAKER_02: But he's technically also a position player.
1:11:40
SPEAKER_02: So there's a little like so.
1:11:42
SPEAKER_02: If you really wanted to get away with it, you could put Shay Otani in in right field, for example, for a couple innings.
1:11:47
SPEAKER_02: That'd be pretty interesting to see.
1:11:48
SPEAKER_02: And they're like, what's up?
1:11:49
SPEAKER_02: What are you gonna do now?
1:11:50
SPEAKER_02: Bring him in to pitch the rest of the game, and no way can challenge his pitches.
1:11:53
SPEAKER_02: So, you know.
1:11:55
SPEAKER_02: They're all that also means that you can't.
1:11:58
SPEAKER_02: So, like, technically, I don't know how well that rule would work, how well that glitch would work, because two out of the three players that can challenge a pitch call are on defense, the pitcher and the catcher.
1:12:08
SPEAKER_02: So the one player that couldn't challenge would be the offense, which would be the the batter.
1:12:12
SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, I just thought that was kind of funny.
1:12:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that there's an Otani rule that needs amendment already from the Otani rule.
1:12:18
SPEAKER_00: Dude, did you see the the first game, the first game ending ABS call?
1:12:23
SPEAKER_00: No, I did not see the no, oh the Orioles.
1:12:26
SPEAKER_00: So the Orioles were leading the Rangers eight to three in the ninth.
1:12:29
SPEAKER_00: Okay, Albert Suarez from the Orioles threw a high, high, high one-two fast ball to Evan Carter.
1:12:35
SPEAKER_00: The pitches of uh originally called a ball to continue the game.
1:12:40
SPEAKER_00: The Orioles catcher immediately challenges it.
1:12:43
SPEAKER_00: The pitch was overturned, and the game ends in the ninth inning.
1:12:47
SPEAKER_00: The first ABS ending call no kidding was in the Orioles and the Rangers game.
1:12:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:12:53
SPEAKER_02: So that happened in spring training a couple times last year.
1:12:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, a couple times.
1:12:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:12:57
SPEAKER_00: First official one happened just this week.
1:12:59
SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
1:13:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's crazy.
1:13:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:13:02
SPEAKER_02: Isn't it a little weird that we don't have any teams that are like 5-0 this year?
1:13:06
SPEAKER_02: We had like two teams that made like 7-0 last year, a couple six and oh.
1:13:10
SPEAKER_02: This year, everybody got a loss within the first like four games.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I it's a little crazy, right?
1:13:16
SPEAKER_00: It's a little crazy, but I mean, the distribution, I mean, the team, the only team that's surprised me that's not five and oh would be the Dodgers.
1:13:24
SPEAKER_02: I mean, when you're talking straight distribution of wealth and distribution of assets, and how that loss came blew my mind.
1:13:31
SPEAKER_02: Because Roki Sasaki was the one starting that game.
1:13:33
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:13:33
SPEAKER_02: So you're thinking, okay, Roki Sasaki gave a bunch of runs, he hasn't figured it out as a starter yet.
1:13:37
SPEAKER_02: That makes sense.
1:13:38
SPEAKER_02: Dodgers never could didn't put up the offense to support him.
1:13:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:13:42
SPEAKER_02: Makes sense.
1:13:42
SPEAKER_02: No, dude, right?
1:13:43
SPEAKER_02: Roki Sasaki had a great outing.
1:13:46
SPEAKER_02: I think he threw, like, correct me if I'm wrong, Tammy, in the chat.
1:13:49
SPEAKER_02: I think he threw like four shuttle.
1:13:51
SPEAKER_02: Like, he was doing really well.
1:13:53
SPEAKER_02: And it was it's only until the bullpen came in that they that they coughed up a bunch of runs.
1:13:57
SPEAKER_02: So I'm kind of like, wait a minute, what the heck happened here?
1:14:01
SPEAKER_02: As against the Guardians, which by the way, their rookie is like fantastic.
1:14:04
SPEAKER_02: They got a rookie on their team that I swear to God, he's gonna be the rookie of the year, can't he?
1:14:07
SPEAKER_02: For me, this guy's awesome.
1:14:08
SPEAKER_02: He came in and played for the playoffs, played in the playoffs last year.
1:14:11
SPEAKER_02: Uh, they got a kid in there, it's absolutely fantastic.
1:14:14
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, man, I think that's crazy.
1:14:16
SPEAKER_02: The ABS challenge system ended the game.
1:14:18
SPEAKER_02: That's cool.
1:14:18
SPEAKER_02: We'll probably see more of that.
1:14:19
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I'm sure.
1:14:20
SPEAKER_02: That was just the first one, so I thought it was kind of cool.
1:14:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, very cool, very cool.
1:14:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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