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Viola Davis, Thuso Mbedu & Gina Prince-Bythewood Talk 'The Woman King', Redefining Femininity + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Wake up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody is
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Speaker 1: DJ Envy Angela, Ye, Charlemagne the guy. We are the
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Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. We got some special guest joining us today. Yes,
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Speaker 1: indeed we have the great the legend Viola David. She's
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Speaker 1: back of morning. We have to do so they do.
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Speaker 1: Did I say right to Bed I hadn't practiced it,
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Speaker 1: like he's gonna get it wrong? I said, yeah, I
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Speaker 1: don't care how many times he practices. That guarantees gonna
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Speaker 1: get it. And Gina Prince Bythewood, good morning, Good morning
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Speaker 1: from the show. From the movie The Woman King Excited,
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Speaker 1: just feel bigger than a movie. This feel like an event.
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Speaker 1: It is moment the movement. Yes, how difficult was it
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Speaker 1: for you to get in that type of shape, because
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Speaker 1: from the premium, I mean it was it was a lot.
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Speaker 1: It looked like you did your own stunts and everything. Yes,
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Speaker 1: we did, and it was a lot. Hour and a
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Speaker 1: half of weight training every day and heavyweights because they
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Speaker 1: wanted me to be really bulky so you could believe
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Speaker 1: I could take down two hundred and fifty pound men.
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Speaker 1: Three and a half hours of martial arts after the
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Speaker 1: weight training, you know, weaponry training, you know, punching elbows,
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Speaker 1: running ten point zero on the treadmill, wow, which you know,
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Speaker 1: you know when you you you start running, you uh,
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Speaker 1: your your heart rate goes up and you lose oxygen.
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Speaker 1: And I'm over fifty. So the fact that I'm alive
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Speaker 1: and sitting here is a testament somebody to try you
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Speaker 1: hold hold up. That's a powerful feeling to be able
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Speaker 1: to just really transform your body like that. You think
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Speaker 1: you'll incorporate this training like just forever into your life
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Speaker 1: now some of that. Yeah, we still work out together,
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Speaker 1: all three of us, so they come to my house
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Speaker 1: and we could plain. Yeah, you know. But you know,
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Speaker 1: for me and Touso can attest to that, it's getting
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Speaker 1: in to the mindset of the warrior, that mindset of
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Speaker 1: either you fight or you die. Yeah, you know, because
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Speaker 1: as actors, you can't just transform the body. You have
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Speaker 1: to transform even um inward. Yea. We are, after all,
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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, playing people and um,
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Speaker 1: I mean I don't know. I don't walk through my
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Speaker 1: life except with my child. It's if you come, you
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Speaker 1: know from my child, I'll try to kill you. But really, um,
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Speaker 1: every day I don't have fight or die sort of spirit.
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Speaker 1: So for people that don't know, let's break down what
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Speaker 1: the Woman King is about. So you're really good at this. Now.
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Speaker 1: It's the story of this incredible group of elite female
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Speaker 1: warriors who defended the kingdom, defended their people at a
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Speaker 1: time when they were at the great crossroads which way
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Speaker 1: they were going to go? And yeah, it just tells
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Speaker 1: the story of this incredible kingdom that that was different
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Speaker 1: than any other kingdom and all of Africa. And it's
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Speaker 1: based on a true story, right, because this this is
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Speaker 1: the real life doorm logic. Yeah right, absolutely, Um, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's the incredible thing. These women were real. So many
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Speaker 1: of us have never heard of them, never were taught
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Speaker 1: about them. So to be able to go to the
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Speaker 1: movies see yourself reflected up on screen, how you've never
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Speaker 1: seen it heroically, we think it's gonna be a game change.
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Speaker 1: It's exciting for me because I've never seen black women
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Speaker 1: in a role like this, you know, and I love
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Speaker 1: movies like three hundred and a Pacalypta when you see
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Speaker 1: all the fighting, running, excitement, But to see like these
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Speaker 1: powerful black women, I just feel like this is something
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Speaker 1: that is life changing for us. You know, I saw
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Speaker 1: that you said Gina that when you read the script
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Speaker 1: you knew even before you finished that you wanted to
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Speaker 1: do this movie. Yeah, for real. Five pages in um wow,
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Speaker 1: it's written that these women rise up from the grasses
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Speaker 1: about to go ham on on some men who took
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Speaker 1: their women prisoner. And for me, my mindset athlete wanting
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Speaker 1: to put us up on screen, I wanted to see
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Speaker 1: that image. I wanted to be the one to shoot
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Speaker 1: that image. Yeah. I'm glad y'all did this too, Because
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm a big comic book guy, so I
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Speaker 1: always knew the door Malija was based off a real
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Speaker 1: you know, crew of women, but I never did the
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Speaker 1: research on it. I never went to go look about
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Speaker 1: the Dohmie Amazon. So this is a great educational piece,
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Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, Lla, you produced this also, right my
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Speaker 1: production company with my husband Julius Tennant, we produced the movie.
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Speaker 1: We fought for it for seven years, you know, seven years,
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Speaker 1: seven year fight. It's always hard to get a movie
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Speaker 1: done in Hollywood. Any anyone has a hard time, but
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Speaker 1: us especially have a hard time. Do you think this
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Speaker 1: is going to start a shift in Hollywood where instead
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Speaker 1: of the narratives of like you know, the enslaved we
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Speaker 1: get those stories all the time. We'll get more of
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Speaker 1: these stories. Seawan our warrior's spirit. We have to m
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Speaker 1: I said, it's time. And it's what we love so
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Speaker 1: much about this film against So many of us are taught,
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Speaker 1: certainly in America, that our history begins with enslavement and
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Speaker 1: there was so much more going on before that, um
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Speaker 1: where we truly do come from kingdoms and warriors and kings.
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Speaker 1: So with the success of this, it has to open
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Speaker 1: that door. Actually keep that door open that Black Panther
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Speaker 1: kicked open for us, and we want to keep that
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Speaker 1: door open for others to tell these stories. We had
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Speaker 1: John opit the other day. He said, boyeah, yeah. He
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Speaker 1: said this was his easiest role because he said he
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Speaker 1: was which role, which rob he was working, Because he said,
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Speaker 1: you guys did the work, and he said it was
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Speaker 1: amazing watching guys really got the play. He said, he
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Speaker 1: loved it and he felt very comfortable. On said because
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Speaker 1: there was so many black women around. Yes, oh yes,
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Speaker 1: he said, y'all would tell him if he had crusted
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Speaker 1: his lips. You know, he was very excited about that. Now,
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Speaker 1: the thing about John that was amazing about his involvement
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Speaker 1: is he normally obviously he's a leading man. Yeah, um,
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Speaker 1: but he came aboard this. He used his power to
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Speaker 1: help us get this mate, help us get that green light.
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Speaker 1: He obviously wondered what vie, but that was big. He
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Speaker 1: just wanted to be there to support black women and
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Speaker 1: he was incredible and set. He came when he wasn't shooting,
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Speaker 1: just to watch, to take it in, to take in
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Speaker 1: the environment. So he was a king. How many knows
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Speaker 1: did you get before you got there? Yes? And what
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Speaker 1: reason would they give you to say this isn't going
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Speaker 1: to work or we're passing. Well, it's it's any number
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Speaker 1: of things. It could be fighting for the actors. Okay,
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Speaker 1: a black actress, especially dark skinned black actress, is not
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Speaker 1: going to have the same resume as a white actor. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so then you have to fight for them, because everything
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Speaker 1: is about what you've done before, how much money that
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Speaker 1: movie made that you did before. You have to fight
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Speaker 1: for the director. You know, the studios approved directors, who
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Speaker 1: are the Steven Spielberg's, the Christopher Nolan's, the David Fincher's.
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Speaker 1: They have their own movie. They don't have to do
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Speaker 1: a woman king. You know, you have to fight for
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Speaker 1: the budget. You have to fight, you know what, You
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Speaker 1: have to fight for everything, even hair and makeup. Okay,
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Speaker 1: because there's no precedent. I just have to add this
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Speaker 1: because Gina said it, so I have to keep it going.
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Speaker 1: It's the whole idea of support and supporting is different
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Speaker 1: than just helping. Supporting is carrying. You're always that net
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Speaker 1: that's always there. And the thing about our movies, this
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Speaker 1: is a predominant black female lead movie. There is no
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Speaker 1: white savior in it. If you do not PLoP your
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Speaker 1: money down to see the movie, then it is going
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Speaker 1: to be really hard for the next black artist to
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Speaker 1: come into that room and get a movie Greenlo, it's
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Speaker 1: going to be ten, fifteen, twenty years because we will
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Speaker 1: set a president that we did a movie that y'all
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Speaker 1: didn't want to see, right, and and it's as simple
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Speaker 1: as that. It's not like, Okay, we just didn't want
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Speaker 1: to see this movie. No, you don't want to see
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Speaker 1: dark skinned women um driving the narrative in a global
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Speaker 1: box office. That's all. When people have that conversation about diversity,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, that's great, but you got to spend
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Speaker 1: them dollars too. You want more diversity, you gotta you know,
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Speaker 1: when these movies dropped, you gotta go see them elusively
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Speaker 1: in theater. So that which, by the way, I'm going
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Speaker 1: to see it on Saturday. So I have a whole
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Speaker 1: day plan to go see it on Saturday when I
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Speaker 1: arrived to where I have to fly out to and
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Speaker 1: so we're making a date to go with my girls.
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Speaker 1: But I want to encourage everybody to go see it
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Speaker 1: because we're still used to things now, you know, streaming
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Speaker 1: and being able to rent it at home, but go
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Speaker 1: to the theater. It's such a great experience, And I said,
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Speaker 1: this is something you have to see in the theater. Also,
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Speaker 1: on top of everything else, it's a hell of fun movie. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: about to say, and from the very beginning, you don't
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Speaker 1: have to wait. You're gonna be dropping off that roller
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Speaker 1: coaster from the very beginning. So sneak your snacks to him,
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Speaker 1: bring that big bag, you know, because I have four
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Speaker 1: daughters and no sharlomans four daughters, so I want we
9:01
Speaker 1: want to take him and see him. I was gonna ask,
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Speaker 1: does it make you nervous with everybody? You know, kind
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Speaker 1: of scared a movie theaters? They're not back yet, like
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Speaker 1: we should be Does that make you nervous at all?
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's you know, it is a it is
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Speaker 1: a I just I don't know what's gonna happen. You know,
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Speaker 1: certainly Top Gun brought people back, right, Um, actually Spider
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Speaker 1: Man right before that brought people back. I think it's
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Speaker 1: it's about the incentive of is this interesting enough? Get
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Speaker 1: out of your bed, climb into the car and go.
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Speaker 1: But as you know, you mentioned, this really is an
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Speaker 1: experience to go see and and we want you to
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Speaker 1: see it on the big screen, and we want you
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Speaker 1: to have that communal experience of everybody yelling at the screen. Fun,
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Speaker 1: it's fun. What what what do roles like this makes
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Speaker 1: you feel about American patriarchy and the roles they tell
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Speaker 1: us men and women are supposed to play. You got
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Speaker 1: some swords in the back if y'all want to find
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Speaker 1: right now? Um? Sorry, a question again, like what do
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Speaker 1: roles like this make you think about just American patriarchy
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Speaker 1: and the roles they tell us men and women are
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Speaker 1: supposed to play? Well, um, it's not necessarily it's just
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Speaker 1: American patriarchy. I think it's globally, Um, you see it
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Speaker 1: back in South Africa as well, Um, just from my history,
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Speaker 1: I know that the shows that I've been been on
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Speaker 1: in South Africa were extremely hard to be commissioned because again,
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Speaker 1: dark skinned black women aren't syllables as far as people
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Speaker 1: are concerned, And um, this, I think this movie will
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Speaker 1: show the opposite. It shows, you know, the humanity of
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Speaker 1: the dark skinned black women. It shows that we are
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Speaker 1: people who are talented, We've got something to a value
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Speaker 1: to add, and that whatever the system has deemed as
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Speaker 1: the standard isn't necessarily true. What about executives that studios
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Speaker 1: who didn't know the story, did they say this could
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Speaker 1: never be true. There would never be a group of
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Speaker 1: women who were, you know, fighting like this. Did anybody
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Speaker 1: say that? Um? Well, I think the world would say that.
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Speaker 1: I think that, you know, we have a narrative that's
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Speaker 1: out there that says that there's a lot of things
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Speaker 1: that we can't be. You know, we can't be muscular,
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Speaker 1: we can't take down a two hundred and fifty pound man,
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Speaker 1: you know, Um, we can't be humanized. Um, we can't
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Speaker 1: be a lot of things. And I think that the
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Speaker 1: best movies that we have our movies that disband all
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Speaker 1: of that. And I think you're gonna see it because
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Speaker 1: I let me tell you something, I felt good in
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Speaker 1: my body for the first time. I felt like this,
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Speaker 1: I mean as as I mean, come on too, so
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Speaker 1: you're I mean because it served me. It really did.
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Speaker 1: At first, I was like, Gene, I wants to be
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Speaker 1: in a bulk up. I can't be walking around him
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Speaker 1: all up. And then all of a sudden, it's a
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Speaker 1: sense of pride. Do we define them in entity if
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Speaker 1: we define womanhood? And that's what we have to do
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Speaker 1: um as black women, because you know, when going to
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Speaker 1: acting school, I was always taught if you're not ninety pounds,
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Speaker 1: you don't look, you know, like a ninety pounds you know,
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Speaker 1: blind hair, blue white woman, then you're just ugly. You're
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Speaker 1: just not feminine. You're not a woman. This just blasted
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Speaker 1: a whole through that Blase previews. Definitely made me feel
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Speaker 1: like I gotta go work out. And I saw that
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Speaker 1: you guys posted the woman who actually trained you are McClean. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so is there gonna be like some type of video
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Speaker 1: that everybody. I think that's a great idea because I'm
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Speaker 1: saying the first thing I saw, I was like, I
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Speaker 1: need to um the woman workout the video is coming. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you think that's a good idea about you better be
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Speaker 1: ready for her, and you know I'm not yet. What
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Speaker 1: I want to say is that because people might think, oh,
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Speaker 1: only woman need to do this workout, we had hero
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Speaker 1: On Jordan working out with gay vomiting as well. You
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Speaker 1: decided to work out with them. Yeah. Did you want
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Speaker 1: to punish yourself or wasn't one of those things you
13:05
Speaker 1: wanted to see how hard the workout was? No, you
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Speaker 1: didn't have to. Yeah. The thing is I joined because
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Speaker 1: I knew how hard it was having, you know, trained
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Speaker 1: as an athlete, and I needed to be like, if
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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you to do something as a director,
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Speaker 1: I should be willing to do it myself. Um. But
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Speaker 1: also before every film, I trained just to get stamming
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Speaker 1: and built up my mind and my body, and here
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Speaker 1: I had free trainers, So I'm gonna take advantage. And
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Speaker 1: you're an athlete already, right, Love and basketball that was
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Speaker 1: based on your life. Yeah, that's so dope to me.
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Speaker 1: I was just watching that last week again because you
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Speaker 1: know it's always on. You really played a man for
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Speaker 1: his heart in real life. There was some that was
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Speaker 1: a movie people didn't think would work either when Yeah,
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Speaker 1: now everybody turned that one down too, and that's a
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Speaker 1: classic classic that my favorite movie. Gin know, I wasn't
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Speaker 1: important for a woman, especially a woman of color, to direct. Man,
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Speaker 1: it had to be from our point of view, our
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Speaker 1: lands what I brought to it. Like as a director,
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Speaker 1: it's a vision, it's my vision. What do I want
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Speaker 1: the audience to see? How do I want these women portrayed? Um?
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Speaker 1: I just think somebody else who didn't have the love
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Speaker 1: of our people love with these women, they may have
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Speaker 1: made a movie that was just about kick as women
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Speaker 1: killing and that's it. But I wanted to show our humanity.
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Speaker 1: I knew we needed to see our humanity. And that's
14:27
Speaker 1: that's the thing why more of us have to tell
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Speaker 1: our own stories, is because our lens, we're putting a
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Speaker 1: camera on what we want to see. Um. And it
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Speaker 1: makes a huge difference too. So how wast how important
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Speaker 1: is it for Black Americans to have a connection to
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Speaker 1: the motherland? I think so from what I've observed m
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Speaker 1: and I talk about it with most of my friends,
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Speaker 1: is there is an identity that was stripped from African
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Speaker 1: Americans when you know they were taken from this land.
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Speaker 1: I have a confidence in me that I I cannot
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Speaker 1: possibly fathom, you know, what life would be like without
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Speaker 1: knowing who I am. You know again, I was talking
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Speaker 1: to my friend about this the other day that yes,
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Speaker 1: we had apartheid, and you know, we have our own
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Speaker 1: system that oppressed us, but we still knew where we
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Speaker 1: came from. I can say I am of the Zuluk tribe,
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Speaker 1: you know, King Shaga, and I can trace my history.
15:23
Speaker 1: I can take my confidence in that my king fought
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Speaker 1: a B and c to see X Y Z it happened.
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Speaker 1: And so for African Americans that was taken from them.
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Speaker 1: And so there's I am noticing this constant search for
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Speaker 1: something that cannot be filled by anything that this space
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Speaker 1: might hold, and tracing whatever Africa might be the answer
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Speaker 1: to that. Miss Davis and Gene, I love answer that
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Speaker 1: question too. Um, Well, what we What we didn't tend
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Speaker 1: on this film, because oftentimes you hear a little bit
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Speaker 1: of a conflict, is that we wanted this cast to
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Speaker 1: come from all over diasporat. So we had African American actors,
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Speaker 1: South African, West African, London, Jamaican, Ugandan. We wanted all
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Speaker 1: of them to come together so that it was black
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Speaker 1: women telling the story of our ancestors together, and of
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Speaker 1: course you celebrate each other's cultures, but it was Black
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Speaker 1: women as a as a collective, and that's a vibe
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Speaker 1: we wanted on set, and that's what we wanted to
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Speaker 1: put up on screen and helpful inspire to stop the
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Speaker 1: division because we all came from the same place. Yeah. Well,
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Speaker 1: I've felt like I've spent my whole life running and
16:45
Speaker 1: chasing and trying to find me, you know, because I've
16:49
Speaker 1: been defined by a culture that really has had a
16:53
Speaker 1: very definitive idea of who I was, and it's been
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Speaker 1: negative in order to control, in order to just suppress.
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Speaker 1: And so when I went to Africa for the first
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Speaker 1: time when I was twenty five, it changed my life.
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Speaker 1: It just blew once again a hole in it. I
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Speaker 1: was coming from Juilliard, where the big thing was disappearing,
17:18
Speaker 1: trying to become a perfectly white actor with speech training
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Speaker 1: and trying to lose weight, which never happened. And I
17:28
Speaker 1: don't know why I was trying to make it happen.
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Speaker 1: But once again, that's when I went to Africa. I
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Speaker 1: saw the why. That's what I saw. I saw the why,
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Speaker 1: and I can't say that I'm not still in search
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Speaker 1: of because I'm not African, so I don't know what
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Speaker 1: tribe I'm from. I still don't know that. I don't
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Speaker 1: know that I'm Zulu. I don't know you know what
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Speaker 1: my great great great great great grandfather could have done.
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Speaker 1: But I just know that there's something else out there
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Speaker 1: that I was is that America. UM has not given me.
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Speaker 1: If from sycroline like me, so it's probably worth African.
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Speaker 1: I didn't mind. I'm westh African, Senegal, Kenny was Saul
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Speaker 1: and Sierra Leone. That's my no. See, I'm Kenyan Cameroon. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: oh wow, Okay, I was gonna ask, you know, for
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Speaker 1: people that don't understand you guys have to fight so
18:21
Speaker 1: much for to put your product out of what you wanted,
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Speaker 1: whether it was this film or loving basketball, why do
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Speaker 1: you continue to fight and not let go? Because it
18:30
Speaker 1: would have been easy to say, you know what, let's
18:32
Speaker 1: go to another movie. But in all those cases, the
18:34
Speaker 1: movies that you did became classics and the fact that
18:38
Speaker 1: our people love them, So why is it so important
18:40
Speaker 1: to continue to fight even if they say no and
18:43
Speaker 1: shut you out? UM? I mean, it was easy just
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Speaker 1: to let go. It is um because if I don't fight,
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Speaker 1: they won't get made, and then we won't see ourselves.
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Speaker 1: And that is absolutely my goal is to put us
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Speaker 1: up on the screen to be inspired by. UM. I
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Speaker 1: learned early on in my career it just takes one yes.
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Speaker 1: And that's the thing. Fight, fight, fight till you get
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Speaker 1: that one yes. And you do that when you're doing
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Speaker 1: things that you're passionate about. The passion fuels to fight.
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Speaker 1: If I was doing stuff where I just thought, well,
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Speaker 1: maybe Hollywood would buy this, UM, then it's easy to
19:19
Speaker 1: give up. But UM, I tell stories that means something
19:23
Speaker 1: to me, that's going to mean something to us, and
19:25
Speaker 1: I'm passionate about how do you know when it is
19:27
Speaker 1: time to let go? Like when like we all have
19:29
Speaker 1: a passion that we like or something that we love
19:32
Speaker 1: maybe the world might not love, and be like, maybe
19:34
Speaker 1: it's time to let that go? When when do you
19:35
Speaker 1: have that mind? Right? If ever, I've never let go.
19:39
Speaker 1: I do very few movies because when I do it,
19:43
Speaker 1: it's something a story I have to tell. It feels
19:47
Speaker 1: like the woman came from what I've been seeing one
19:49
Speaker 1: hundred percent on Rotten Tomatoes. Everybody that I know, one
19:52
Speaker 1: of my friends is like, I gotta go see it
19:53
Speaker 1: again because the movie theater was so loud from people
19:55
Speaker 1: responding this experience, you know, it was She's the one
20:00
Speaker 1: that went, and she said, that's the only problem. I'm
20:04
Speaker 1: going to see a movie for black Rotten Tomatoes. I've
20:10
Speaker 1: seen the amazing reviews and people are saying, this is
20:13
Speaker 1: like a life changing movie. Did you brace yourself to
20:16
Speaker 1: think that maybe people wouldn't accept it before I came out,
20:19
Speaker 1: because you know, you don't know what people's responses are
20:22
Speaker 1: going to be initially, and it was something that was
20:24
Speaker 1: hard to get done. It's something we haven't seen before.
20:27
Speaker 1: You you can believe in something wholeheartedly, and I believed
20:31
Speaker 1: in this cast. I believed in in the story. I
20:33
Speaker 1: believe in what we were doing. But no one sets
20:36
Speaker 1: out to make a bad movie. That's a hary thing.
20:38
Speaker 1: As a director and probably for actors, it's a leap
20:41
Speaker 1: of faith. Um. But to be on the other side
20:45
Speaker 1: of that, UM, is kind of amazing. And I mean,
20:49
Speaker 1: I have two boys that I have three scary screenings,
20:54
Speaker 1: the first one showing my husband the first person and
20:57
Speaker 1: he'll be honest as he should be. Um. Did I
21:02
Speaker 1: did I did I make a good movie? Or did
21:05
Speaker 1: I fuck up? And then the second scariest one is
21:08
Speaker 1: showing my two boys because they're gonna be honest, but
21:11
Speaker 1: also to do this kind of thing, you've gotta be away.
21:15
Speaker 1: It has to mean something. And so do they watch
21:17
Speaker 1: it and are they proud of the work? And both boys,
21:21
Speaker 1: cash Us and Toussaint they loved the movie, and they've
21:24
Speaker 1: watched it twice, so they loved it more the second
21:26
Speaker 1: time because I think the same thing you see, there's
21:29
Speaker 1: so much coming at you when that first time that
21:32
Speaker 1: they just really got to see more things. It just
21:34
Speaker 1: doesn't feel fair to have to convince a bunch of
21:36
Speaker 1: coachurally cluelest white people about why all stories are so important.
21:42
Speaker 1: She's like, well, you said it. You are you to
21:47
Speaker 1: want to be in this movie when you saw the script.
21:50
Speaker 1: So I only saw the script during my audition process.
21:54
Speaker 1: I first I had like a general meeting with GV
21:57
Speaker 1: Productions to just Tenant about his husband and twenty nineteen
22:01
Speaker 1: who told me about the story. And I was shocked
22:04
Speaker 1: because I am South African. This is a story that
22:07
Speaker 1: happened in Africa, and I'd never ever, ever, ever ever
22:10
Speaker 1: heard of it and Julius, you know, the heart that
22:14
Speaker 1: he had for the story and telling me about it
22:16
Speaker 1: made me absolutely fall in love with it. And then
22:18
Speaker 1: on top of that, it was action and there would
22:20
Speaker 1: be an opportunity to work with Viola, and I was
22:22
Speaker 1: just like, oh my gosh, I need to do this,
22:25
Speaker 1: even if it means I'm just like wiping the screen.
22:27
Speaker 1: You I was just like wipe the screen in an
22:29
Speaker 1: out type situation. And eventually got a chance to audition,
22:34
Speaker 1: and then I saw the script and I was just like,
22:38
Speaker 1: I can't because you know, I'm so like fairly new
22:40
Speaker 1: to this industry and mentally, I've prepared myself to you know,
22:45
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna have to put in the time. It
22:46
Speaker 1: should take, you know, at least like five years, ten
22:49
Speaker 1: years to get to a place where I would qualify
22:51
Speaker 1: to auditions for something like this, you know. And it
22:54
Speaker 1: was an amazing script, and again I was just like,
22:57
Speaker 1: I need to do my best. That's all I can do.
23:00
Speaker 1: And then after my audition, Gina wished me like with
23:03
Speaker 1: my career, which was heartbreaking. Now, you know, y'all, why
23:20
Speaker 1: would you beat it? I in her audition, I literally
23:24
Speaker 1: knew um immediately that she was not we but so
23:28
Speaker 1: I knew it in my gut, my heart, my soul.
23:30
Speaker 1: But I still need to be to see her. I
23:32
Speaker 1: needed Julius to see her. I needed the studio um
23:35
Speaker 1: to see her. So I couldn't say so, I said,
23:39
Speaker 1: good luck. I've been sincere because I've seen such amazing
23:53
Speaker 1: things for her. She was a generational talent for real?
23:56
Speaker 1: How was that process was not at all? Not at all.
24:02
Speaker 1: So after reading the script and having had a creative
24:04
Speaker 1: meeting conversation with Viola about the script, very chill, very
24:10
Speaker 1: just like give and take. And I was grateful for
24:15
Speaker 1: that opportunity because you know, prior to working, while hearing
24:18
Speaker 1: off this production and watching her interviews, I identified her
24:23
Speaker 1: process of working as the same as mine, which meant
24:26
Speaker 1: which for me was like, oh my gosh, I'm not
24:27
Speaker 1: crazy if I do stuff like this. And so to
24:29
Speaker 1: have her be that, to have that creative conversation, to
24:32
Speaker 1: have her then, you know, after having gotten the role,
24:35
Speaker 1: have her call me to discuss the script, exchange ideas
24:38
Speaker 1: was absolutely amazing. Train with her, suffer with her, and
24:44
Speaker 1: you know, um and yeah, just Viola is an absolute clown.
24:49
Speaker 1: Like people don't know that she is an absolute, absolute
24:52
Speaker 1: clown one. There was never a time where you feel like,
24:55
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I have to prove myself to her.
24:57
Speaker 1: Oh I have to keep up with her. It was
24:59
Speaker 1: just it's a beautiful give and take. I feel like
25:01
Speaker 1: a movie behind the scenes, things that were happening while
25:04
Speaker 1: you guys were on set. Oh my god, I remember
25:06
Speaker 1: both for you. The food, yeah, the lack of Yeah. No,
25:12
Speaker 1: it was bad Black women with bad food. No, not bad.
25:17
Speaker 1: It's not bad food, but you know it's it's It
25:19
Speaker 1: was a very strict chicken. But every once in a
25:23
Speaker 1: while you got the fish sandwich with the multi grain bread,
25:27
Speaker 1: and I'd always run after Leshauna, who plays a Zogie,
25:31
Speaker 1: and she would be tearing that sandwich up, and I said, like, Shanna,
25:35
Speaker 1: give me something that fish sandwich. I'm gonna dig that,
25:38
Speaker 1: and she's like, get a white It's like both y'all
25:42
Speaker 1: sick of grilled chicken at this point. Oh, I mean,
25:49
Speaker 1: it doesn't make me go to the bathroom seed pudding.
25:53
Speaker 1: I feel like a movie like this creates a different
25:55
Speaker 1: level of sisterhood. You know the other film Absolutely, Tina,
26:00
Speaker 1: did you eat those things too? Are you just training?
26:03
Speaker 1: Sometimes she bought us pies though. I was bad every
26:06
Speaker 1: once a while because in stop having because they have
26:10
Speaker 1: it's like fresher than every so every once a while
26:13
Speaker 1: because I knew how hard they were working. Um, I
26:16
Speaker 1: would slip them au pie. I'm not gonna lie. I
26:18
Speaker 1: would eat some candy laid and plumb it in my
26:26
Speaker 1: mouth and then wake up and go, why did I
26:28
Speaker 1: do that? I had my stuff in So can I
26:34
Speaker 1: talk to you by other did you read these reviews
26:44
Speaker 1: or look at any of those? I know you normally
26:46
Speaker 1: don't do that, but with this one, I can't do it.
26:50
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't do It's really good. I'm one
26:53
Speaker 1: of those people. I have a little bit you know
26:57
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say. Can I cuss a little?
27:00
Speaker 1: Of course, because I'm a little bit full of shit
27:03
Speaker 1: Because at first I'll say I can't take compliments, you know,
27:07
Speaker 1: it's about the work. And then if you don't compliment me,
27:10
Speaker 1: I'm like, they didn't say anything. Don't you want people
27:17
Speaker 1: to recognize? No, it's human nature. Like literally, we can
27:21
Speaker 1: have fifty great reviews and then there's one hater and
27:25
Speaker 1: then you focus on that, and we don't want to
27:26
Speaker 1: do that. We know what we did. We're proud of
27:29
Speaker 1: what we did. We don't want anyone to do. But
27:31
Speaker 1: I have to say and too, so you can attest
27:35
Speaker 1: to it. Gina. Two, it's so so great being with sisters. Yeah,
27:40
Speaker 1: I mean, and all of us were different, Yeah, but
27:44
Speaker 1: absolutely you're in the room and you know, you know that,
27:48
Speaker 1: you know that, you know that we have each other's back.
27:51
Speaker 1: You know, you know, just like the agoge, we are
27:54
Speaker 1: gonna fight for each other, We're gonna pull for each other,
27:57
Speaker 1: We're gonna hope for each other, you know. And my god,
28:01
Speaker 1: you just don't get that all the time you go
28:03
Speaker 1: out in the world. You're like, come on, sister, you
28:05
Speaker 1: know what's hard? Yea, why are you doing this to me?
28:08
Speaker 1: I mean, you know we can get into that, but
28:11
Speaker 1: this the joy of my life. Come on. I saw you,
28:17
Speaker 1: David say that you know this movie's performance will be
28:19
Speaker 1: judged in a way that films with white directors and
28:21
Speaker 1: cast won't. Can you can you elaborate on it because
28:25
Speaker 1: it's never been done before. And what I find in
28:29
Speaker 1: general is that we're scrutinized. Image and message sometimes is
28:35
Speaker 1: more important than execution. You know, it's got to mean something,
28:39
Speaker 1: and what does it mean, what is it saying? Are
28:41
Speaker 1: you insulting us? You know? Um, it could be any
28:45
Speaker 1: number of things, because it's the first Whenever you're the
28:50
Speaker 1: first one out of the gate, you just have to
28:52
Speaker 1: go through that plate of glass. But I know that,
28:55
Speaker 1: I know that, I know that, I know that no
28:57
Speaker 1: matter what, even with the scrutiny, you'll have a damn
29:00
Speaker 1: good time for two hours. In six minutes in that theater,
29:03
Speaker 1: you just are. You're gonna laugh, you're gonna cry, you
29:06
Speaker 1: gotta stand up and cheer. I don't care if you're
29:08
Speaker 1: a white man, don't care if you're a white woman,
29:09
Speaker 1: one black woman, black man. You are gonna be on
29:13
Speaker 1: your feet and you're gonna sit with these women and
29:16
Speaker 1: you're gonna root for them. What did you What do
29:17
Speaker 1: you learn about our story as black people by doing
29:21
Speaker 1: this film? Like something you didn't know? There's nothing I
29:25
Speaker 1: mean other than the story of the AGGI. For me,
29:28
Speaker 1: it felt right. I know that we're human. I know
29:31
Speaker 1: that we're all of those things. I want to show
29:34
Speaker 1: other people what we are. You know, I always say,
29:38
Speaker 1: if I can sit with Robert de Niro in any
29:41
Speaker 1: Martin Scorsese movies, if I could sit for two hours
29:45
Speaker 1: forty minutes with a Meryl Street for Julian Moore or
29:48
Speaker 1: a Cape Blanchet. Then you could sit with me. You
29:51
Speaker 1: could sit with Tusso, you could sit with Lashawna, you
29:54
Speaker 1: could sit with Sheila. You could sit with us and
29:57
Speaker 1: understand that we're complicated. We are as women, as black women,
30:02
Speaker 1: We're not just all just strong nurturing. I mean I
30:07
Speaker 1: played a lot of strong nurturing women. I was gonna ask,
30:09
Speaker 1: when do you guys get a chance to wind down?
30:11
Speaker 1: You know, we've just seen you a couple of months
30:13
Speaker 1: ago with your book and TV shows and more movies
30:18
Speaker 1: more like Blacks, and do you I mean, I for
30:24
Speaker 1: really need a nap. And I'm because after Old Guard
30:29
Speaker 1: I went straight into this. UM, but I had I
30:32
Speaker 1: was gonna take a break after the Old Guard, and
30:34
Speaker 1: then the script came. It was like, damn, I'm not
30:36
Speaker 1: getting a break. UM, but I'm I'm looking forward to that.
30:40
Speaker 1: But also my mind's always going, I already know what
30:42
Speaker 1: I want to write next, so UM, I will take
30:45
Speaker 1: a little time. But then yeah, like I love what
30:48
Speaker 1: we do, um, and I still do, and I never
30:50
Speaker 1: want to lose that. What about you miss Davies. She
30:52
Speaker 1: looks like you want a vacation for some more And
30:56
Speaker 1: I'm going straight into Hunger Games. I mean the Hunger Games,
31:00
Speaker 1: which is awesome. Director of Friends is Lawrence awesome role,
31:03
Speaker 1: the villain role. But you know what everyone's always saying,
31:07
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta be ambitious. Sometimes you've got to
31:11
Speaker 1: be ambitious about rest. Yeah, about nurturing your soul and
31:16
Speaker 1: your heart. You know, they say that the only way
31:19
Speaker 1: to treat being overwhelmed is to do absolutely nothing. It's
31:25
Speaker 1: in those spaces that you just that you find who
31:29
Speaker 1: you are, even that you connect with your life and
31:32
Speaker 1: don't feel guilty about it. Sometimes we feel like if
31:35
Speaker 1: you're not being active and working, it's a bad thing.
31:38
Speaker 1: But you need that to like refresh yourself. It's trauma base.
31:42
Speaker 1: You don't feel like you deserve to rest. But that's
31:45
Speaker 1: what they say. Being busy is a trauma response. A
31:46
Speaker 1: lot of times it is. I was gonna ask you about,
31:49
Speaker 1: you know, with the book, to you like, you gave
31:50
Speaker 1: so much of yourself in your book. Was that exhausting
31:54
Speaker 1: or exhilarating both? Okay, there are some things in that
31:58
Speaker 1: book that I it really cost me to write. Yeah,
32:03
Speaker 1: it did, and to share it with the world, people
32:05
Speaker 1: that you don't know. But then an incredible thing happened,
32:09
Speaker 1: which is, I don't care what you have to say
32:13
Speaker 1: about me. This is who I am, the good and
32:17
Speaker 1: the bad, the the mess, the beauty, the joy. And
32:23
Speaker 1: that's what I have always been ashamed of. And now
32:26
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's like, that's saying the privilege
32:29
Speaker 1: of a lifetime is being who you are. And so
32:32
Speaker 1: that was that was the genesis of the book. But
32:35
Speaker 1: it did cost me. When you say it cost you,
32:38
Speaker 1: you mean like personally or like would people your family,
32:41
Speaker 1: It cost me to just put it on paper. Wow,
32:46
Speaker 1: it did writing about my mom, you know, writing about
32:52
Speaker 1: a very personal event, my abortion when I was twenty
32:55
Speaker 1: eight years old, that was a really really The fact
32:59
Speaker 1: that I even just said it now makes me want
33:01
Speaker 1: up just writing about that, but writing about it honestly
33:05
Speaker 1: and not from a political perspective but a personal a
33:08
Speaker 1: personal perspective, which is more of a paradox um. Yeah,
33:16
Speaker 1: you do help so many people that we got so
33:19
Speaker 1: many calls, special nails, comments with people. You opened up
33:24
Speaker 1: so much where they felt it felt relatable, like they
33:26
Speaker 1: were going through it and they felt like somebody else
33:28
Speaker 1: was on their side, somebody else has been through it.
33:30
Speaker 1: It allowed them to have a little freedom like we
33:33
Speaker 1: got it with so many and the book it feels
33:35
Speaker 1: like you're opening the door to a therapy session, like
33:39
Speaker 1: the the things you would tell you therapists and not
33:41
Speaker 1: share publicly. But it seems like we're eaves dropping in
33:44
Speaker 1: on a therapy session, which which which, which in itself
33:46
Speaker 1: will make you feel vulnerable. Well, I think that everybody
33:49
Speaker 1: has to find a home. They have to find home
33:53
Speaker 1: home meaning that place, that sacred space within you, that
33:58
Speaker 1: where you find your piece, where you find a joy
34:00
Speaker 1: that is totally just separate from the world. And that's
34:04
Speaker 1: what I've always been in search of. And I realize
34:07
Speaker 1: it's because I have to own my story. You know. Yeah,
34:10
Speaker 1: I know you guys are doing a runner, you gotta go.
34:12
Speaker 1: But I just wanted to know, were there any part
34:14
Speaker 1: of the movie that you had to take out because
34:17
Speaker 1: you know, you might shoot twenty hours a movie, but
34:19
Speaker 1: you got that you wanted, that you didn't want to
34:25
Speaker 1: take out, but you just had. Well, the beauty of
34:29
Speaker 1: this I can say, like my director's cut is um
34:33
Speaker 1: is only eight minutes longer and that's how it should be.
34:36
Speaker 1: The movie up on the screen. I've always said, as
34:39
Speaker 1: a director, I have to believe everything up there. So
34:42
Speaker 1: if I'm fighting with the studio, if they want me
34:44
Speaker 1: to cut something that I don't believe in, I'm gonna fight.
34:47
Speaker 1: I can't not do that. So, um yeah, the movie
34:52
Speaker 1: up on the screen is what I wanted to put.
34:54
Speaker 1: I mean the original like if I put everything in,
34:56
Speaker 1: it was three and a half hours, um, and so
35:01
Speaker 1: only I have that copy. Um, but it wasn't you know.
35:05
Speaker 1: Sometimes less is more and when you start to shape
35:08
Speaker 1: it and shape it, themes, characters, they just pop more
35:12
Speaker 1: and so but it takes me a minute to get there.
35:14
Speaker 1: I have ten weeks where director's cut, and for the
35:17
Speaker 1: first five weeks I'm not cutting anything, and then you
35:19
Speaker 1: get less precious and less precious, and again less is more?
35:23
Speaker 1: What is what is best for the film? How crazy
35:25
Speaker 1: is that fight? Though? Right? Because you're a director, you
35:27
Speaker 1: see a vision. It's your vision, is what you want
35:30
Speaker 1: And then the man cause and says the white man.
35:32
Speaker 1: You say the man, okay, we want you to do this,
35:37
Speaker 1: so we want you to do that, but it's not
35:39
Speaker 1: your vision. This is my vision. This is my ship.
35:41
Speaker 1: That's how difficult exactly how I sound in the room,
35:45
Speaker 1: and it's, uh, that's the thing. Like I came in
35:50
Speaker 1: with the vision. Y'all knew what the vision was going
35:53
Speaker 1: in um and it's it's it's it happens every single time.
35:57
Speaker 1: And then slowly but surely people try and then your
36:00
Speaker 1: vision and that's where the fight comes in. That's and
36:03
Speaker 1: I feel like so many young filmmakers come in and
36:06
Speaker 1: think they have to bend, but for me and that
36:08
Speaker 1: whole thing of pick your battles, but with vision, there's
36:11
Speaker 1: no pick in your battles. Every battle you have to
36:14
Speaker 1: win or you're gonna look up on screen and see
36:16
Speaker 1: something you don't recognize. And after all that we went through,
36:20
Speaker 1: the beauty of this was when I'm fighting to protect
36:25
Speaker 1: and to save scenes, I knew that they were behind me.
36:29
Speaker 1: I knew that they'd be in the fight with me,
36:31
Speaker 1: and that's an incredible gift. But at the end of
36:34
Speaker 1: the day on this movie, I will say I was
36:38
Speaker 1: told by the head of the studio, you know, they
36:41
Speaker 1: have final cut, but listen to our notes, just like
36:47
Speaker 1: take them in. Don't just blow them off, but take
36:49
Speaker 1: them in. But other than that, we are going to
36:52
Speaker 1: give you your cut. This is gonna be a film,
36:54
Speaker 1: and that doesn't always happen. I've got two more questions,
36:58
Speaker 1: only had one, but you made me think of something.
37:00
Speaker 1: When you make these films, what's more important? Vision? Our intention? Vision?
37:04
Speaker 1: Vision drives everything. Every single decision, whether it be wardrobe,
37:09
Speaker 1: whether it be who I hire, who I cast, where
37:12
Speaker 1: we shoot. Every single decision starts with that vision. And
37:18
Speaker 1: one question too, I just wanted to ask. Part of
37:21
Speaker 1: the story is also Africans assisting in the slave trade.
37:24
Speaker 1: Was it harder to get those roles filed because nobody
37:26
Speaker 1: want to play that role? I would think unless some
37:28
Speaker 1: people like being a villain. It was about we're being
37:32
Speaker 1: truthful with the story and every single role is necessary
37:36
Speaker 1: and it is brave to take on a role like
37:39
Speaker 1: that and props. The hero finds Tiffin who who played
37:42
Speaker 1: the Oh I was about to run the movie. Wow,
37:51
Speaker 1: there were a couple roles, but it's important because it's
37:54
Speaker 1: important to tell the story and we need we leave
37:57
Speaker 1: those people. But we were gonna go in and tell
37:59
Speaker 1: the truth. I think that's gonna be new to a
38:00
Speaker 1: lot of people, especially a younger generation. You're gonna be like,
38:03
Speaker 1: really everything desisted enslaves, right, Yeah, I mean the globally,
38:09
Speaker 1: every single civilization participated in some way, you know. Um,
38:14
Speaker 1: But for us it was um having our women, our
38:18
Speaker 1: grogie women, and in this she represents those within the
38:21
Speaker 1: kingdom who were pushing for change, and that's what they
38:24
Speaker 1: ultimately do. So my final questions for all three what
38:27
Speaker 1: do you want the most? What do you want people
38:28
Speaker 1: to take away from the woman king too? So um
38:36
Speaker 1: So what it did for me was, um, give me
38:40
Speaker 1: a stronger voice. Um, Because and I've said this before
38:44
Speaker 1: that before ding those projects, I didn't realize that I
38:46
Speaker 1: lived my life apologizing for existing. And through this, through
38:51
Speaker 1: partnering with Viola and Gina and telling the story and
38:54
Speaker 1: my character, who's so assertive, so spirited, determined, you know,
38:59
Speaker 1: who knows who she is and what she wants, I
39:02
Speaker 1: found my voice. But also the whole process of getting
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Speaker 1: this project done made me realize that, you know, we
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Speaker 1: have desires, we have dreams, we know what we want,
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Speaker 1: but there will be a fight, Like a fight is guaranteed,
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Speaker 1: and ours is to push through it. So whatever it
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Speaker 1: is that you feel your purpose to do, the resistance
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you're not supposed to be doing that.
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Speaker 1: You just need to fight through it. There will be scars,
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Speaker 1: but it's it's part of the journey. For me. It's
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Speaker 1: it's only three things. I want you to leave enlightened
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Speaker 1: because you're you're learning about yourself, You're learning about these women,
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Speaker 1: inspired by these incredible women and the story in this environment,
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Speaker 1: and then empowered to I take in see yourself reflected heroically.
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Speaker 1: Know that we all have this innate warrior within us.
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Speaker 1: It's squelched oftentimes when you're a women and go out
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Speaker 1: there and fight. Miss Davis. I never want to tell
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Speaker 1: the audience with the takeaway. They who knows how it's
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Speaker 1: going to land on them? I have no idea, but
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Speaker 1: I know that I have a twelve year old daughter
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Speaker 1: who saw the movie and she cried profusely, wow, okay,
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Speaker 1: and then she said she was so proud of me.
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Speaker 1: And then I get all of her text messages on
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Speaker 1: her phone. She showed me a text message that she
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Speaker 1: was going back and forth with a friend who had
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Speaker 1: also seen the movie, and they said, oh, wasn't she great?
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Speaker 1: Wasn't too so great? Wasn't like Sean? Oh my god?
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Speaker 1: It was literally art and then she says, and I'm
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Speaker 1: not just saying that because it's my mom. So she
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Speaker 1: showed me the text message and I said, thank you
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Speaker 1: so much. I text her back because I'm on the
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Speaker 1: road and I said, thank you so much, my baby,
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Speaker 1: and then I wrote in all caps, ah gogie with
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Speaker 1: exclamation point and then I waited, waited, wait, and I
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Speaker 1: got a buzz on my phone and the response was husu.
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Speaker 1: And I thought that that was awesome to inject and
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Speaker 1: my daughter what I didn't have that sort of spirit
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Speaker 1: of the warrior. It's like whatever you dream, whatever you
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Speaker 1: dream is beyond fear. Yeah, you know, And that was
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Speaker 1: everything brought me to tears. A man, go support the
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Speaker 1: Woman King this weekend. Everybody King now it is Davis.
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Speaker 1: Thank you guys for joining us so much. And do
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Speaker 1: you ever have to back your son down every once
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Speaker 1: in a while, like he thinks mom lost and just
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Speaker 1: like you know it gets give me this basketball. I
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Speaker 1: have to back this little boy to bawn. You know.
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Speaker 1: The last time I played, uh, he was fourteen and
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Speaker 1: he legit beat me and I was like, because I've
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Speaker 1: seen him plays. Thank you well, Thank you so much, guys.
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Speaker 1: The Woman King is the breakfast local morning. Thank you,