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- 0:00Speaker 1: Ten nine Ignition sequence six five.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Four three two one zero All engine running.
- 0:22Speaker 3: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
- 0:25Speaker 3: Ignition with the aew FANDAB podcast team. This is Kelson
- 0:30Speaker 3: and we are here live on x and on Twitch,
- 0:36Speaker 3: and of course we are going to be posting this
- 0:40Speaker 3: on a Spotify, Apple podcast or wherever you listen to
- 0:46Speaker 3: your finest podcast. It'll be available tomorrow. We just saw
- 0:50Speaker 3: Russell Dream from Saint Louis and we're going to talk
- 0:54Speaker 3: about some of Russell Dream, not all of it, because
- 0:59Speaker 3: we've got a lot to talk about, but we are
- 1:02Speaker 3: going to start by talking about the main event from
- 1:06Speaker 3: Russell Dream. Guys, what did you think of this thing?
- 1:10Speaker 4: Look at Sting? He looks like the coolest old man
- 1:14Speaker 4: who ever lived.
- 1:17Speaker 5: I love Sting and this is drawing for me to see. Honestly,
- 1:22Speaker 5: I've it's it's hard to take in him being different looking,
- 1:26Speaker 5: but it's what he's going with.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Old man. Sting looked great. Like I want to say
- 1:32Speaker 2: it was Brian Alvarez on the Wrestling Observer Alive or
- 1:35Speaker 2: radio where he's like, Sting looked like that old dude
- 1:38Speaker 2: that everyone in town was like, oh you don't mess
- 1:39Speaker 2: with that guy.
- 1:41Speaker 6: He'll mess you up. Like you just you don't touch
- 1:43Speaker 6: that dude.
- 1:44Speaker 2: But I want to see Sting under the White Beast
- 1:47Speaker 2: Mortos mask at some point down the line, the next,
- 1:51Speaker 2: the next, you know, the new awesome white Mortos like
- 1:55Speaker 2: he pulls it off and his white haired Sting.
- 1:59Speaker 6: So short, was so good see him?
- 2:03Speaker 7: Yeah, Anto was trying out of Halloween costume.
- 2:08Speaker 3: Yeah, but what did.
- 2:11Speaker 7: I'm not saying that is past. I'm just saying to
- 2:14Speaker 7: the white it was starring. You've never seen him like that.
- 2:18Speaker 3: But well, let's let's talk about Let's talk about the
- 2:22Speaker 3: match instead of what Sting looked like. Uh. Look, look,
- 2:28Speaker 3: did the match live up to your expectations as a whole?
- 2:33Speaker 4: No, my expectations are really really high as a sicko.
- 2:39Speaker 4: From what I saw they there was some crazy stuff
- 2:43Speaker 4: that the the aquarium spot notably was bonkers, but I
- 2:50Speaker 4: was expecting you know, like where's the violence, where's the
- 2:53Speaker 4: blood spray?
- 2:56Speaker 7: Yeah, they were definitely hampered by the Monster Athletic Commission
- 3:01Speaker 7: not allowing the mean no blood, no fighting in the crowd.
- 3:06Speaker 7: That really hurts a match. It was still a good match,
- 3:11Speaker 7: but and I know you don't need blood, but there's
- 3:15Speaker 7: something about a match like that you need to see it.
- 3:19Speaker 7: You need to see like that visual representation of through
- 3:26Speaker 7: you know, like, Okay, these guys would be crap out
- 3:30Speaker 7: of stuff, I would go ahead.
- 3:33Speaker 5: I just I was hoping more. I really was.
- 3:37Speaker 6: I wanted.
- 3:39Speaker 5: A lot, a lot more because the way they built
- 3:41Speaker 5: it up that Darby doesn't give up, Mop doesn't give up,
- 3:45Speaker 5: and then he ends up giving up in a sharpshooter.
- 3:49Speaker 6: Sorry spoiler alert.
- 3:50Speaker 5: I don't know, but anyway, but that's just maybe it
- 3:55Speaker 5: was because of this commission, maybe, but it felt like
- 3:57Speaker 5: a regular Death Riders match for this whole bunch of
- 3:59Speaker 5: interface and all that stuff, it just felt flat to me.
- 4:04Speaker 2: I may have a contrarian opinion.
- 4:08Speaker 6: I actually think.
- 4:08Speaker 2: Everybody's opinion there is really valid. I think those are
- 4:12Speaker 2: good perspectives. I am not a huge fan of like
- 4:18Speaker 2: the deathmatch style, and I felt lately AW has been
- 4:23Speaker 2: doing too much of that to the point where it
- 4:26Speaker 2: doesn't have the impact, like I'll enjoy it, like when
- 4:28Speaker 2: Swerve and Hanger were doing their stuff, but I need
- 4:32Speaker 2: a couple months between those, and I felt like they've
- 4:34Speaker 2: been doing them too much, and so I assumed this
- 4:38Speaker 2: was going to be another one of those, and I
- 4:40Speaker 2: was kind of cringey, being like, man, you know, I
- 4:42Speaker 2: don't know if I can deal with another one again.
- 4:45Speaker 2: I did not know about the Missouri Athletic Commission stuff
- 4:47Speaker 2: until afterwards. And for me, I actually enjoyed this more
- 4:53Speaker 2: than I think I would have with all the blood
- 4:54Speaker 2: and stuff, just because it had been a little bit
- 4:56Speaker 2: much for me in particular. I know other people feel differently,
- 4:59Speaker 2: and it's valid. There's no wrong answer here. My main problem, actually,
- 5:05Speaker 2: my only real problem with the match is the finish.
- 5:08Speaker 2: It was clear when Sting gave Darby the bat the
- 5:12Speaker 2: significance of Derby hitting Mox's leg and his knee specifically
- 5:16Speaker 2: was going to play into the finish. He was supposed to,
- 5:18Speaker 2: like just destroy Mox's knee with the bat, put him
- 5:21Speaker 2: in the sharpshooter. Him saying I quit there would have
- 5:24Speaker 2: made sense. They didn't focus on that enough, And like
- 5:27Speaker 2: others said, I was kind of confused how the ending
- 5:30Speaker 2: came up so quick, Like Mox is a killer, he
- 5:32Speaker 2: shouldn't have tapped out or said I quit so much.
- 5:34Speaker 2: But watching him back, I realized they completely messed up
- 5:37Speaker 2: that and the announcers just did not focus on it enough.
- 5:40Speaker 6: When he tapped out.
- 5:41Speaker 2: They needed a good ten seconds to twenty seconds of
- 5:44Speaker 2: Mox just an excruciating pain before he said I quit,
- 5:47Speaker 2: go ahead.
- 5:48Speaker 6: I think Jesternett was going to chime in there.
- 5:50Speaker 7: I was.
- 5:51Speaker 4: I can't really verify his source, unfortunately, but I heard
- 5:54Speaker 4: like everything was running along, so they really like had
- 5:58Speaker 4: no choice but to cut things than they wanted.
- 6:01Speaker 3: That makes sense, Yeah, that was kind of obvious, you know,
- 6:05Speaker 3: not did you have anything that you wanted to add
- 6:07Speaker 3: or storm?
- 6:11Speaker 8: For me, I would agree that it's getting to be
- 6:15Speaker 8: a little much with all of the blood and the
- 6:21Speaker 8: the kind of it's almost gruesome to me in a way.
- 6:24Speaker 8: I don't mind a good death match, but it's it's
- 6:27Speaker 8: getting to be a lot with them. And one thing
- 6:32Speaker 8: I would have really liked to see more out of
- 6:35Speaker 8: this match is more Darby and Mox one on one.
- 6:39Speaker 8: I am absolutely sick and tired of Wheeler Yudah and
- 6:45Speaker 8: Claudio and and and what's his name Daniels runs out there,
- 6:52Speaker 8: and I'm really tired of Marina Shafir. It would be
- 6:55Speaker 8: nice to see Mox do his thing all by himself.
- 7:00Speaker 8: So he doesn't need the help, and I'm really really
- 7:04Speaker 8: tired of seeing the help. It's overused and they can
- 7:09Speaker 8: do better than that. But I like seeing old man
- 7:13Speaker 8: sing always, always a joy.
- 7:16Speaker 7: M hm.
- 7:16Speaker 5: I feel the same way about the death writers. I
- 7:18Speaker 5: really think that it's been a year. It's time. Hopefully
- 7:22Speaker 5: I try to end this soon because it's the same
- 7:24Speaker 5: type of match every time in involvement, and to me,
- 7:27Speaker 5: it make if if that's a character that he's going
- 7:31Speaker 5: for the MAXX is going for where he has to
- 7:32Speaker 5: have help with me and he's not this big old
- 7:34Speaker 5: bad guy that he says he is, and that's great, but.
- 7:36Speaker 6: If not, I think it hurts mocks.
- 7:40Speaker 3: I agree, Storm. Do you have anything you wanted to add?
- 7:44Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually I'm I guess I would say I'm
- 7:48Speaker 1: like a real sicko because I love the violence. I
- 7:52Speaker 1: think it's fantastic. It gives me old school you c
- 7:56Speaker 1: W vibes.
- 7:58Speaker 7: Right.
- 8:01Speaker 1: I enjoy it, I really do. But I did feel
- 8:06Speaker 1: a little let down with the match, especially with Moxley
- 8:10Speaker 1: giving up so quickly. That kind of bummed me. But
- 8:13Speaker 1: ultimately I thought it was a pretty good match, and
- 8:17Speaker 1: I'm curious though as to what I think it was
- 8:22Speaker 1: Net and Barry. How do you guys feel about uh,
- 8:29Speaker 1: oh god, what is coming up? Why am I blanking the.
- 8:35Speaker 3: Chocular bloody guts?
- 8:42Speaker 1: How do you feel about little guts because that's gonna
- 8:44Speaker 1: get gross?
- 8:46Speaker 3: Well, well, I don't We've got a lot to talk
- 8:50Speaker 3: about it. I don't want to go too far off
- 8:53Speaker 3: with blood and guts because we do have blood and
- 8:55Speaker 3: guts coming up November twelfth, and we'll talk. We'll assess
- 9:00Speaker 3: your question storm later on. In my opinion, this match,
- 9:07Speaker 3: like Barry, when you do something too many times, like
- 9:10Speaker 3: a tornado match or a Texas death match style match,
- 9:15Speaker 3: it does lose some of the charm. I guess if
- 9:18Speaker 3: he would call, you know, bleeding profusely charming. But this
- 9:23Speaker 3: match still had. Look, the fish tank thing was something
- 9:28Speaker 3: that we've not seen before, right. The fingernail thing drove
- 9:33Speaker 3: me insane. Now I was Some of you probably know
- 9:39Speaker 3: this already, but I was born death and I had
- 9:42Speaker 3: an operation when I was about five six years old
- 9:46Speaker 3: to correct that issue. But part of it was I
- 9:49Speaker 3: became susceptible to infections after the operation, and I had
- 9:54Speaker 3: to take all kinds of weird medicines for that, and
- 9:58Speaker 3: one of the medicines caused all of my fingernails and
- 10:01Speaker 3: all of my toenails to fall out, And let me
- 10:05Speaker 3: tell you that is hella painful. And when I saw
- 10:10Speaker 3: when I saw that fingernail spot with the skewer, I mean,
- 10:19Speaker 3: I was almost in tears. It made me so uncomfortable,
- 10:23Speaker 3: you know, you know what I mean.
- 10:26Speaker 2: But look, hey, can I talk to Storm for a second, Like,
- 10:30Speaker 2: I'm with you Storm, like I enjoy a good death match,
- 10:34Speaker 2: So like Kelson's saying, like I was squirming like when
- 10:37Speaker 2: he was two in the things under the fingernails, like Helson,
- 10:40Speaker 2: like I was squirming. I had no idea the Missouri
- 10:43Speaker 2: Athletic Commission did not allow blood, Like I didn't know
- 10:45Speaker 2: that was a thing, right, I just was not.
- 10:47Speaker 6: So I kept waiting for the blood.
- 10:49Speaker 2: I thought he was going to stab him like mox
- 10:51Speaker 2: In with the skewers before, and it was sticking in
- 10:53Speaker 2: his back and stuff. And I kept waiting for the
- 10:55Speaker 2: blood the whole time, thinking I was nobody bleeding, And
- 10:59Speaker 2: coming back.
- 10:59Speaker 6: To Helston's point, maybe it's just me, but I thought.
- 11:02Speaker 2: They did some really really creative stuff, like you said,
- 11:04Speaker 2: I'd never seen before. I'd never seen the fish tank
- 11:09Speaker 2: Darby getting thrown. How many feet is that It's got
- 11:11Speaker 2: to be ten fifteen feet?
- 11:12Speaker 1: That is definitely a lot.
- 11:15Speaker 6: Yeah, Like, yeah, I thought they did some.
- 11:18Speaker 2: And then the skewerst thing, I thought they did some
- 11:20Speaker 2: really creative stuff I'd never seen before that maybe cringe
- 11:23Speaker 2: in a different way without grossing, like without going to
- 11:26Speaker 2: the well.
- 11:26Speaker 6: On the blood, I.
- 11:27Speaker 1: Guess I'm actually I'm with Kelson a little bit. On
- 11:31Speaker 1: the nails. The nails are the one thing that got me.
- 11:34Speaker 1: And I feel like it's because I watched way too
- 11:36Speaker 1: many like horror and like psychological movies that just kind
- 11:40Speaker 1: of mess you up. And I've seen like a lot
- 11:44Speaker 1: of movies like certain scenes where they that always happens
- 11:49Speaker 1: and it scares me and grosses me out and makes
- 11:51Speaker 1: me cringe. That was like the one part I could
- 11:54Speaker 1: not handle of it.
- 11:56Speaker 2: Same.
- 11:57Speaker 4: I cringed so hard.
- 11:59Speaker 6: Yeah here and no blood, like they didn't even need
- 12:03Speaker 6: blood to do it.
- 12:04Speaker 3: Well there, Yeah, it was very cerebral, it was psychological. Uh.
- 12:09Speaker 3: The fish tank thing did not have an effect on
- 12:11Speaker 3: me whatsoever. I thought that was kind of funny, to
- 12:14Speaker 3: be honest with you. Uh, But but the fingernail thing
- 12:18Speaker 3: was like we need to have a fingernail match now.
- 12:21Speaker 2: I mean seriously, the fish thing that he didn't like
- 12:24Speaker 2: blow out water like we always see on TV in
- 12:26Speaker 2: the movies, and that makes it seem so much more dramatic.
- 12:28Speaker 2: And his head was just in there, like you can
- 12:30Speaker 2: see him holding his breath, and I'm just like water man.
- 12:33Speaker 3: Yeah, I do want to address something. Well, actually it's
- 12:37Speaker 3: something that MK wanted to talk about. MK. Are are
- 12:40Speaker 3: you here? Uh you want to talk Just let's have
- 12:44Speaker 3: like a maybe a five minute discussion about what you
- 12:48Speaker 3: wanted to talk about. Go ahead, MK.
- 12:50Speaker 5: Well, I don't know. I think Sarah Stock is more
- 12:54Speaker 5: of a trainer producer. I don't know what she's called.
- 12:57Speaker 5: But she came out and said that people people, they
- 13:00Speaker 5: shouldn't be doing that in front of kids and her
- 13:04Speaker 5: best Helen Lovejoy impression, and then a man of Huber
- 13:08Speaker 5: came out and said, you know it's called parenting. Uh,
- 13:11Speaker 5: your kids shouldn't be watching a well known two well
- 13:14Speaker 5: known people who are well known for taking things to extreme.
- 13:18Speaker 5: And I quit match. But I thought that was the
- 13:22Speaker 5: most tame thing to get kicked off over. If you're
- 13:24Speaker 5: gonna say something, say something about the multiple things. Yeah,
- 13:27Speaker 5: multiple death matches things instead of your head kitchchain.
- 13:31Speaker 3: Yeah, look look at kay. I've been watching I've been
- 13:36Speaker 3: watching professional wrestling for many, many, many years, and I've
- 13:40Speaker 3: seen multiple times where people have been thrown over the ropes,
- 13:45Speaker 3: off the cage, off of the cage, hit the head
- 13:49Speaker 3: with baseball bats, breast knuckles, hairs, you know.
- 13:56Speaker 7: Tags W exclusive.
- 14:02Speaker 3: This is not a W exclusion. This is not a
- 14:06Speaker 3: W exclusive stuff. There's a reason why it says TVPG
- 14:11Speaker 3: or TV fourteen in the top left hand corner of
- 14:13Speaker 3: your screen, amda Uber is exactly right. Parental guidance means
- 14:20Speaker 3: parental guidance. If a fish tank is what you're upset about,
- 14:27Speaker 3: then what in the hell are you doing in professional wrestling?
- 14:32Speaker 3: You know? This goes into a new feature that we
- 14:35Speaker 3: come up with for the aw Pantel Magnician podcast, and
- 14:40Speaker 3: it's called Shut the Hell Up Sarah stuff.
- 14:45Speaker 5: Talk about the hell up? Yet everybody.
- 14:51Speaker 3: M dumb ass thing to talk about? Yeah, I got
- 15:01Speaker 3: to make a graphic for shut the Hell Up. You know,
- 15:03Speaker 3: but our inaugural shut the Hell Up recipient is Sarah stock.
- 15:09Speaker 3: You could you can accept you expect the toilet paper
- 15:13Speaker 3: with a brown Smudge with the words shut the hell up,
- 15:17Speaker 3: I You're in box soon. Look, we got we gotta
- 15:22Speaker 3: move on because we've got a lot more to talk about.
- 15:25Speaker 3: And probably one of the biggest things that came out
- 15:28Speaker 3: of the Tailgate brawl was the announcement aw women's tag
- 15:35Speaker 3: team bracket reveal coming on Dynamite. Uh they didn't say
- 15:43Speaker 3: how many teams there are, did they? So it's pretty
- 15:47Speaker 3: much so it's pretty much all you know, speculation. Look,
- 15:51Speaker 3: it's obvious. Some of the teams are the graphic itself
- 15:54Speaker 3: right there. You see Tony Storm, Mena Shearkal that became obvious,
- 15:58Speaker 3: That became obvious, ta Ja, Julia Hart and sky Blue.
- 16:03Speaker 3: I mean there are some obvious teams. Do you think
- 16:07Speaker 3: that one of those that I've mentioned and are the
- 16:09Speaker 3: ones that are going to win this tournament? And who
- 16:14Speaker 3: who else? Maybe do you think who else do you
- 16:18Speaker 3: think may have a shot at becoming a tag team
- 16:21Speaker 3: in this tournament? And let's just say that we're gonna
- 16:24Speaker 3: have sixteen teams, because god knows it could be six
- 16:29Speaker 3: you never know.
- 16:31Speaker 4: Tony and Mina, Tony and Mina, I hope, so just
- 16:34Speaker 4: because like throw Mina a bone, let her win something big.
- 16:41Speaker 6: Exactly.
- 16:44Speaker 8: So, yeah, I think Megan Bain and Penelope Ford are
- 16:50Speaker 8: going to oh yeah, obviously there yeah, and I can
- 16:54Speaker 8: see them winning, honestly, are there are other there are
- 16:57Speaker 8: other tag teams that I like, but I can see
- 17:00Speaker 8: those two actually winning the titles.
- 17:03Speaker 6: Willow and Harley, right, they established them as a tag
- 17:06Speaker 6: team though, right.
- 17:08Speaker 7: I would say, like the five Yellow said so far
- 17:17Speaker 7: are the obvious teams to be in. I'm hoping it's sixteen.
- 17:21Speaker 7: I'm hoping they bring in a couple of teams from CMLL,
- 17:26Speaker 7: maybe some from stardom.
- 17:27Speaker 6: Indies, pro indies, like.
- 17:32Speaker 7: And I'm fully expecting one of those five teams to
- 17:38Speaker 7: win the tournament. But bring in other teams, don't usually
- 17:45Speaker 7: the showcase for women's wrestling and your partners and the indies,
- 17:50Speaker 7: you know, like yeah, yeah, most of the most of
- 17:56Speaker 7: them will probably lose in the first round, you know,
- 17:59Speaker 7: to a w specific teams you have a few move
- 18:04Speaker 7: on to the second round. You know, I'll be your
- 18:08Speaker 7: finals are gonna be to a WS.
- 18:12Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, but Chris, you know, look, I
- 18:15Speaker 3: don't like the idea of teams coming in from CML
- 18:20Speaker 3: or STARTUM and losing the first round to an a
- 18:23Speaker 3: W team. Kaguma and and Hazuki are probably one of
- 18:29Speaker 3: the highly probable teams. If they're gonna have a team
- 18:34Speaker 3: from stardom, that's who it's gonna be. And frankly, they're
- 18:37Speaker 3: better than TJ and Heart Blue. You know, come come on.
- 18:45Speaker 7: Well the one that moves on to the second round.
- 18:52Speaker 3: If you're if you're gonna have a team like that
- 18:56Speaker 3: or even uh, I don't know, Persephone and Olympia from CMLL,
- 19:01Speaker 3: those are finals. Those are not first or second round.
- 19:05Speaker 3: I'm sorry they're not.
- 19:07Speaker 2: They don't even need to be finals, but at least
- 19:08Speaker 2: semi finals or quarter finals, like like one of the
- 19:11Speaker 2: last three or four matches.
- 19:13Speaker 6: For sure.
- 19:14Speaker 2: With you if you're bringing in if you're bringing in
- 19:17Speaker 2: people from another promotion, either they're gonna have to wrestle each.
- 19:21Speaker 6: Other, so one of them goes over.
- 19:23Speaker 2: But I agree with Kelson, especially if it's the major
- 19:25Speaker 2: partner promotions like their New Japan or CML out well
- 19:29Speaker 2: New Japan would be start them at CMML.
- 19:31Speaker 6: Or Tokyo Joshipro.
- 19:33Speaker 2: If we're making in roads, you got to get them
- 19:35Speaker 2: over in the first round. So either they're going against
- 19:37Speaker 2: each other for some of the advances, or you're gonna
- 19:39Speaker 2: have a week AW team like maybe the Renegade Twins
- 19:43Speaker 2: or somebody who's like AW adjacent. Put them over. But
- 19:46Speaker 2: I agree with you, Kelson. If you're bringing in gusts,
- 19:48Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta push them.
- 19:49Speaker 6: A little bit.
- 19:50Speaker 4: Plot twist. Mercedes Mode enters the tournament by her self.
- 19:54Speaker 3: The wins.
- 19:57Speaker 7: We'll people people would she didn't be fourteen belts or belt.
- 20:03Speaker 2: No, she'd ever puppets tagging the puppet yeah, because I.
- 20:07Speaker 7: Mean it's one title, but two belts right now.
- 20:14Speaker 6: Hater Nona, are they a team they may bee or is.
- 20:18Speaker 2: That just for setting up blood and goats? Yeah, okay, yeah,
- 20:27Speaker 2: I want to say something about the women's tag teams.
- 20:29Speaker 2: I'm very upset about Anna j and ty Mellow or
- 20:35Speaker 2: t Mellow because they went with with AJ and Anna
- 20:39Speaker 2: Ta was like right there the whole time, and I'm
- 20:42Speaker 2: just I'm really upset they didn't go with Anna and
- 20:44Speaker 2: I need to get that off my chest.
- 20:50Speaker 6: Thank you.
- 20:53Speaker 3: I'm going to say something here. I think I think
- 20:56Speaker 3: it was buried brought up Willow and Harley.
- 21:00Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 21:00Speaker 3: I don't like that team. I really don't. And I'm gonna.
- 21:04Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you why, because Mercedes and Harley makes
- 21:07Speaker 3: much more sense to me.
- 21:08Speaker 6: Oh, you're so right, dude, You're so right.
- 21:11Speaker 3: And having Harley as Mercedes's partner makes it to the
- 21:17Speaker 3: point where Mercedes can lose a match and Kay, you're
- 21:24Speaker 3: gonna have to mute. So yeah, I mean, I I do.
- 21:35Speaker 3: I just I just like that team better.
- 21:38Speaker 2: My view Kelson on that is after Mercedes loses at all,
- 21:43Speaker 2: and I think that's the storyline we're gonna see, and
- 21:46Speaker 2: she hits rock bottom that it needs to be Harley
- 21:50Speaker 2: who finds her at her lows of lows, helps pick
- 21:54Speaker 2: her back up, and they tear through the tag team
- 21:57Speaker 2: division all the way back to the titles and it's Harley.
- 21:59Speaker 6: Who makes her a champion again.
- 22:01Speaker 3: Well, don't go long term.
- 22:02Speaker 6: That's my long term book, and I and.
- 22:05Speaker 3: I agree with you. Look, this is my thoughts. This
- 22:07Speaker 3: is you're going. You're going with my thought train. Harley
- 22:12Speaker 3: and Mercedes lose in the tag team tournament as partners,
- 22:19Speaker 3: and Mercedes gets bent out of shape about it. But
- 22:24Speaker 3: but hurt if you will, a lot of ass hattery
- 22:28Speaker 3: is going to happen. But let's not forget that Harley
- 22:34Speaker 3: is popular and aw has an event coming up in
- 22:39Speaker 3: Australia in December, and that's where I believe, for shits
- 22:45Speaker 3: and giggles, Harley Cameron will become your new AWTBS champion.
- 22:52Speaker 6: YO book.
- 22:56Speaker 7: I love it, love everything about it.
- 22:58Speaker 2: It's been fun watching her to like it's rare you
- 23:01Speaker 2: get to see somebody brand new figure it out in
- 23:05Speaker 2: front of you on TV.
- 23:06Speaker 6: And kudos to Tony for just keeping her.
- 23:09Speaker 2: On TV and letting her figure it out because she's
- 23:12Speaker 2: got more talent in her finger than most of us
- 23:14Speaker 2: do combined together and anything. It's crazy and it's just
- 23:18Speaker 2: been a lot of fun watching her develop on TV.
- 23:20Speaker 4: Man, I agree, the last time I saw somebody developed
- 23:22Speaker 4: like that on real time was actually Braun Stroman. It
- 23:25Speaker 4: was crazy watching him go from like the Wyots when
- 23:29Speaker 4: he wasn't very good to just like improving week after
- 23:33Speaker 4: week after week.
- 23:36Speaker 6: Yeah, there's there's not a whole lot like we like.
- 23:39Speaker 2: Bron Breaker is one going on right now where you
- 23:42Speaker 2: basically saw him as soon as he broke into the
- 23:44Speaker 2: business in the XT like there was no end ser
- 23:46Speaker 2: hit and you've just seen him just figure it out
- 23:49Speaker 2: week to week and look at him a huge star now.
- 23:51Speaker 6: But it's it's neat. It's neat to see that.
- 23:54Speaker 3: One other little thing that I wanted to put out
- 23:56Speaker 3: there to you guys was, yeah, we have several established
- 24:01Speaker 3: tag teams, one being Okay, you're gonna have to mute,
- 24:06Speaker 3: one being sky Blue and Julia Hart. But that leaves
- 24:12Speaker 3: Tecla with no partner who's techless partner. If you're gonna
- 24:17Speaker 3: you've gotta have Techla in this because she's so dynamic
- 24:20Speaker 3: and such a popular heel.
- 24:23Speaker 4: If you will, Tela's partner is Tea. She can.
- 24:32Speaker 6: I don't think you do.
- 24:35Speaker 3: What was that, Barry, I'm sorry, I don't.
- 24:37Speaker 6: I don't think you do need her.
- 24:38Speaker 2: I would keep her feuding with the the title, with
- 24:42Speaker 2: them in that three way.
- 24:43Speaker 6: I don't think you need her in the Tech.
- 24:44Speaker 3: Champions, all right, agreed?
- 24:47Speaker 2: I think in their death triangle what what is it
- 24:50Speaker 2: called again?
- 24:50Speaker 3: The triangle?
- 24:52Speaker 6: Tels sisters has said.
- 24:59Speaker 3: Brunette, Yeah, yeah.
- 25:00Speaker 2: You got you got the singles competitor and the tag team.
- 25:03Speaker 2: I think that's fine. She's the singles competitor of the group.
- 25:06Speaker 3: Okay, well, look, I for the sake of time, and
- 25:10Speaker 3: I apologize that everybody didn't get a chance, But I
- 25:13Speaker 3: do want to move on because we also had a match,
- 25:17Speaker 3: the tag team match at Russell Dream, which in my
- 25:21Speaker 3: opinion for me, was the match of the night. I
- 25:25Speaker 3: love this match. It was fun. But it looks like
- 25:33Speaker 3: and we've been talking about this for weeks and weeks
- 25:36Speaker 3: and weeks and weeks now, Uh, Kenoski Takeshta going babyface.
- 25:43Speaker 3: Uh do you think we're at that point now?
- 25:48Speaker 4: Yes?
- 25:50Speaker 6: I think so.
- 25:52Speaker 3: Okay, great discussion, guys talk.
- 26:03Speaker 7: It feels like we all know it's coming, Like it
- 26:07Speaker 7: just seems so obvious for it not to happen. But
- 26:11Speaker 7: I'm excited to see how it happened. You know, obviously
- 26:15Speaker 7: it's gonna be the issues between him and Okada. I mean,
- 26:21Speaker 7: that's that's pretty clear right now. But how does it happen?
- 26:26Speaker 7: Who winds up winning the deal? Does it shift over
- 26:30Speaker 7: or crossover with New Japan with him being the iw
- 26:33Speaker 7: GP champion, because yeah, I know Coada made the comments,
- 26:37Speaker 7: oh I'm done wrestling there, but you really think he's
- 26:40Speaker 7: gonna miss Tonahsky's last match. But he's gonna be there
- 26:44Speaker 7: for that, not in the match, but he's gonna be
- 26:47Speaker 7: there to see Tanahsky retirement.
- 26:53Speaker 3: That's a pretty good point. Actually, I haven't really thought of.
- 26:58Speaker 6: That attack him.
- 27:03Speaker 2: I had Akata attack him after his retirement match, and
- 27:07Speaker 2: I'd have Takashita make a safe sets up the match
- 27:10Speaker 2: a rustle Kingdom.
- 27:13Speaker 3: Well you know, look it's retirement rus Kingdom.
- 27:18Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, yeah, I mean never mind, I didn't know.
- 27:21Speaker 3: Never mind. Sorry, Yeah, So isn't he fighting Harley Race? No,
- 27:27Speaker 3: never mind.
- 27:31Speaker 2: So, like, Takesha is an interesting cat because back before
- 27:38Speaker 2: he joined the Callous Family, like he was baby face
- 27:41Speaker 2: to Kashna, right, but he couldn't win, and then he
- 27:45Speaker 2: kind of hooked up with the elite as his hail
- 27:47Speaker 2: he'll turn and then boom full heel. And one of
- 27:51Speaker 2: the things that I've been kind of thinking about the
- 27:53Speaker 2: Callous Family is really look at them as a as
- 27:57Speaker 2: an engine for making big time baby faces, because one
- 28:02Speaker 2: of the tried and true methods for making somebody as
- 28:05Speaker 2: a top baby face is to have them at a
- 28:07Speaker 2: heels table and then turn on the heels and it's
- 28:10Speaker 2: happened a whole bunch of times, and I think Takesha
- 28:14Speaker 2: is the first one to benefit from that. With the
- 28:16Speaker 2: Kallis family, I think Fletcher's the next one, probably a
- 28:19Speaker 2: year from now or so. But like, this is a
- 28:22Speaker 2: great case study in how you put a guy in
- 28:25Speaker 2: a faction, you keep them on TV, people like them.
- 28:28Speaker 2: You just let him win, just just make him be
- 28:30Speaker 2: a bad ass, just let him win, let him do
- 28:33Speaker 2: his thing. And like when people start getting behind him,
- 28:37Speaker 2: even though he's a heel, that's when you know it's time.
- 28:40Speaker 2: And in this case, it was fun to see everybody
- 28:43Speaker 2: starts hearing for them, even as it's a heel, and
- 28:45Speaker 2: you can see Tony finally get comfortable. He's like, all right,
- 28:48Speaker 2: let's pull the trigger on what we've been hitting at
- 28:50Speaker 2: with Okaton Takeshaa. It's time. Let's do it this year.
- 28:54Speaker 2: And I think it's great. I'm totally ready. He's one
- 28:58Speaker 2: of the young guys. There's like six four young guys
- 29:01Speaker 2: that they can invest in, whether here and in New Japan,
- 29:04Speaker 2: whether he wants to split his time. I don't know
- 29:06Speaker 2: what his run is going to be with this belt,
- 29:07Speaker 2: but this guy is great. He's the future like Fletcher.
- 29:11Speaker 2: He's the future like Osprey and Swerve and Hangar and MJF.
- 29:14Speaker 2: And I can't wait to see them. Just push him
- 29:17Speaker 2: to the moon. It's a big time babyface.
- 29:19Speaker 4: I agree. I totally agreed. I do hate to correct you,
- 29:22Speaker 4: especially on your birthday, Barry, But wasn't a will the
- 29:25Speaker 4: first person, the first heel he'l to turn face off.
- 29:29Speaker 4: The callis family, you know.
- 29:31Speaker 2: I think that's a good point, Jess. The early kallis
- 29:34Speaker 2: family when he came in as an outsider.
- 29:36Speaker 6: I think you're right. Yeah, I would give you that point.
- 29:39Speaker 6: He was the first one, for sure.
- 29:42Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean there's split.
- 29:43Speaker 4: Was sort of amical bullet first but less so afterward.
- 29:47Speaker 2: But it's still the same. I think you're right, though.
- 29:49Speaker 2: That was the model. He came into a heel faction.
- 29:52Speaker 2: They got hot, people wanted to cheer him, the biggest
- 29:55Speaker 2: way to establish somebody who's having turned on that heel faction.
- 29:57Speaker 6: Jess, that was a good observation. I didn't realize missed that,
- 30:00Speaker 6: But that's a good point.
- 30:02Speaker 7: Thank you.
- 30:05Speaker 3: Well, let's move on because this is going to be
- 30:09Speaker 3: a fun topic. Before we start, I want to point
- 30:14Speaker 3: out that Sutton isn't with us here tonight, and I
- 30:19Speaker 3: just wanted to say something on his behalf. This is
- 30:22Speaker 3: not me speaking, this is on Sun's behalf. Mercedes Monette
- 30:26Speaker 3: was terrible in a in WWE, She's terrible in aw's
- 30:29Speaker 3: is the worst thing to ever happen in the women's
- 30:31Speaker 3: wrestler there, I said it, There you go something anyway,
- 30:36Speaker 3: Mercedes Monet twelve bolt, twelve belts Monette. I thought I
- 30:43Speaker 3: was going to cry when Mina Shei Kala came out
- 30:47Speaker 3: at Russell Dreen because my first thought was, oh no,
- 30:50Speaker 3: They're going to have Mina Shei Kala eat yet another pin.
- 30:56Speaker 3: And of course, Mercedes Monet defeated Mina Shei Kala to
- 31:00Speaker 3: win the Interim Ring of Honor TV Championship. Interestingly enough,
- 31:07Speaker 3: on the Ring of Honor official roster, when Mina Shirakawa
- 31:13Speaker 3: was the the Interim TV champion, she was on the
- 31:19Speaker 3: roster page, but in the actual roster and their list
- 31:22Speaker 3: of champions, Red Velvet was the champion and Mina Shirakawa
- 31:27Speaker 3: was not even up there in that champions graphic bracket.
- 31:32Speaker 3: Mercedes Monette was instantly put in there as interim champion,
- 31:36Speaker 3: right next to Red Velvet as ROHTV champion. Frankly speaking,
- 31:42Speaker 3: and I'm just gonna speak this from the heart, I
- 31:44Speaker 3: do not consider the Ring of Honor Interim Championship TV
- 31:47Speaker 3: Championship as a belt for Mercedes Money to claim. I
- 31:52Speaker 3: don't consider the Owen Hart Championship as a belt for
- 31:58Speaker 3: for Mercedes Mornee to claim, because nobody else has claimed
- 32:02Speaker 3: it like she has. I also considered the Queen of Southside,
- 32:07Speaker 3: which is part of the repro undisputed British Women's Championship.
- 32:14Speaker 3: It's kind of like a combined belt. The Queen the
- 32:17Speaker 3: south Side is from a now defunct, a now defunct promotion,
- 32:25Speaker 3: and that belt cannot be defended on its own. So
- 32:29Speaker 3: frankly speaking, I think Mercedes Monet is nine belts Monette
- 32:34Speaker 3: right now, to be honest with you. But anyway, what
- 32:37Speaker 3: do you guys think about Mercedes Monet? And she's challenged
- 32:42Speaker 3: Christian Statlander already at Bulgear, and we know that when
- 32:50Speaker 3: eventually Red Velvet comes back, that Mercedes Monet is going
- 32:54Speaker 3: to get a shot at Red Velvet's belt.
- 33:01Speaker 1: So I'm actually one hundred percent with you Kelson about
- 33:05Speaker 1: like the titles, especially the owen Heart one, because I mean,
- 33:10Speaker 1: that happened months ago, like it's a one time thing.
- 33:14Speaker 1: It's in and out, you're done. You don't get to
- 33:17Speaker 1: count that as a forever belt. I'm totally with.
- 33:21Speaker 5: You on that.
- 33:24Speaker 7: Yeah, she technically is carrying around twelve belts, but she
- 33:30Speaker 7: is nine and a half championships. I mean, I'll count
- 33:35Speaker 7: the interim as like, you're not really the champion until
- 33:40Speaker 7: you beat the champion, but we'll give we'll give you
- 33:43Speaker 7: a half of that one.
- 33:47Speaker 3: That's fair. Anybody else have any thoughts?
- 33:51Speaker 6: Do you think she puts over red velvet when she
- 33:53Speaker 6: comes back?
- 33:55Speaker 3: No, and it's not her choice to do.
- 33:58Speaker 2: So, Look what if what if that's during the So
- 34:03Speaker 2: I don't know when or about, but it's scheduled to
- 34:05Speaker 2: come back. But what if that's during the slide when
- 34:08Speaker 2: she starts the losing street that we all assume is
- 34:10Speaker 2: going to come at some point. Isn't that kind of
- 34:12Speaker 2: the point where she's acquiring this equity and then pays
- 34:15Speaker 2: that off and puts people over on the way down.
- 34:18Speaker 3: Well, look, she's been putting people over through this whole thing.
- 34:21Speaker 3: I am not speaking poorly of Mercedes Monet as a
- 34:24Speaker 3: matter of fact. I mean, but if you look, if
- 34:28Speaker 3: you look at some of the statements. Look, her most
- 34:30Speaker 3: recent championship was Sunday night at Winnipeg Pro Wrestling and Winnipeg.
- 34:37Speaker 3: Winnipeg Pro Wrestling actually made a statement because somebody on
- 34:42Speaker 3: AX said something that a lot of people have said
- 34:45Speaker 3: and I do not which I do not believe, and
- 34:48Speaker 3: that Mercedes Monet is just there for herself and not
- 34:53Speaker 3: doing anything and whatnot, you know, to put over wrestlers. Well,
- 35:00Speaker 3: we're talking about Winnipeg Pro Wrestling two weeks ago. Did
- 35:04Speaker 3: any of you know what Winnipeg Pro Wrestling was? You know,
- 35:08Speaker 3: think about it? You know, I'm still I'm following Diana
- 35:13Speaker 3: Strong on X and been watching some of her matches.
- 35:19Speaker 3: That's who Mercedes Monet beat in Poland for the EWA
- 35:25Speaker 3: Championship and the Bestia champion Chip very mute, please, And
- 35:39Speaker 3: my point here is that Mercedes Monet is putting people over.
- 35:42Speaker 3: Winnipeg Pro Wrestling made a statement saying she's put us
- 35:47Speaker 3: on the map. She's it's a mutually beneficial partnership, I
- 35:55Speaker 3: guess is the best way to put it. I think
- 35:57Speaker 3: that's what they said, but I know they use the
- 35:59Speaker 3: words specifically mutually beneficial. Now, the question, but the question
- 36:08Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you guys, not only on that,
- 36:10Speaker 3: is do you think Mercedes Moona beats Chris Statlander at
- 36:15Speaker 3: full gear.
- 36:17Speaker 7: She should not know.
- 36:19Speaker 1: M No, I don't think she is.
- 36:27Speaker 7: Sorry, go ahead, I think she loses it full gear,
- 36:30Speaker 7: gets frustrated and you know, maybe starts issuing open challenges
- 36:37Speaker 7: for the TVs title and you know, gets a few
- 36:40Speaker 7: wins until she hits Australia. Harley comes out, surprises her
- 36:48Speaker 7: with a roll up, and that is the start of
- 36:51Speaker 7: her downfall. The first title she won is the first
- 36:55Speaker 7: title she loses, and that starts the dominoes dropping, because
- 36:59Speaker 7: she's going to be more and more desperate to keep
- 37:02Speaker 7: the titles now that she's one less, now that she's
- 37:08Speaker 7: you know, like she's got the record right now. Okay,
- 37:12Speaker 7: she's got to keep them or else.
- 37:16Speaker 3: Let me ask you guys something, because I got a
- 37:18Speaker 3: plead ignorance here. Did they announce that the Women's World
- 37:23Speaker 3: Tag Team Championship Finals would be at full Gear?
- 37:27Speaker 6: I don't think so.
- 37:29Speaker 3: I don't think somebody said something about it, and I'm like,
- 37:32Speaker 3: I didn't hear that.
- 37:32Speaker 7: But then again, they announced familiar, but I'm not sure.
- 37:36Speaker 7: It might have been one of those where one announcement
- 37:40Speaker 7: got kind of mixed in with the other, like maybe
- 37:44Speaker 7: they made Mercedes for stat land or official for full
- 37:49Speaker 7: gear and then did the women's tag title announcement.
- 37:55Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how many times has STAT lost
- 37:59Speaker 2: the Mercedes now as a two or three?
- 38:03Speaker 3: How many times has STAT lost to Mercedes too?
- 38:07Speaker 2: I believe too, because they made sure to bring that
- 38:10Speaker 2: up at the pay per view, right.
- 38:12Speaker 6: That is why I don't think.
- 38:14Speaker 2: I don't think Mercedes wins. And if you're trying to
- 38:18Speaker 2: establish status as a big time champ, She's now got
- 38:21Speaker 2: two wins over Tony Storm. A win over Mercedes is
- 38:24Speaker 2: the next strongest woman in the women's division from a
- 38:26Speaker 2: record standpoint, that firmly establishes her as a top tier champion.
- 38:32Speaker 2: Those are significant wins. So I don't see a world
- 38:35Speaker 2: where Mercedes drops. But I'm looking forward to when you
- 38:39Speaker 2: know she's got titles from these promotions, She's gonna put
- 38:42Speaker 2: somebody over and make She's gonna make a lot of stars.
- 38:46Speaker 2: She's bringing attention to these promotions, like you said, Kelson,
- 38:48Speaker 2: and when she goes back like these performers and these
- 38:52Speaker 2: smaller promotions are going to have a win over Mercedes
- 38:56Speaker 2: Monette like that's a huge deal for somebody on the indies,
- 38:59Speaker 2: regardless of what country it's in like that's enormous and
- 39:03Speaker 2: it's going to be just it's going to be great
- 39:05Speaker 2: to see.
- 39:06Speaker 3: I absolutely agree.
- 39:09Speaker 1: I have something on ringside News earlier saying that she
- 39:14Speaker 1: is not making any money from these trips, like she's
- 39:17Speaker 1: doing this all on her own time.
- 39:19Speaker 3: Let me let me break it, let me interrupt you storm.
- 39:23Speaker 3: Ringside News is full of ship, so don't read anything
- 39:27Speaker 3: from them, Okay, says is absolutely bullshit. Sorry.
- 39:37Speaker 1: I mean, I've read some things that I heard later
- 39:41Speaker 1: that we're all that were actually true, so I guess
- 39:45Speaker 1: they're half and half.
- 39:47Speaker 3: Well, you know, even I say something smart every once
- 39:51Speaker 3: in a while, but I admit to it.
- 39:55Speaker 4: You want to know something kind of funny. I heard, No,
- 40:00Speaker 4: this is in no way, shape or form the way
- 40:02Speaker 4: I think, the way I think it works, or that
- 40:04Speaker 4: it will work. But I heard somebody say, like what
- 40:08Speaker 4: if what if Stat wins and gets the whole kitten kaboodle,
- 40:15Speaker 4: And I'm just imagining Stat like carrying off all the titles.
- 40:18Speaker 7: She just wanted a wheelbarrow.
- 40:24Speaker 3: Okay. Anybody else have anything to say about Mercedes Monet?
- 40:38Speaker 9: No?
- 40:39Speaker 3: Okay, then I guess we will move on to really
- 40:43Speaker 3: our last topic, which surprised me a little bit. And
- 40:47Speaker 3: that was the heel turned done by Samoa Joe and
- 40:51Speaker 3: by by Samoa Joe turning heel as part of the opps,
- 40:58Speaker 3: he also turned uh Shabana and Will Hobbs heel. Uh.
- 41:07Speaker 3: I like Samoa Joe as a heel, I really don't
- 41:12Speaker 3: like Hobbs as a heel. And I can't really say
- 41:14Speaker 3: about Shabana's heel because I don't think I've ever seen
- 41:17Speaker 3: Jabana as a heel.
- 41:20Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna disagree with you, Nelson on Hobbes. I
- 41:23Speaker 4: think he's a great like because he's got that sneer,
- 41:26Speaker 4: that very like sealish expression.
- 41:29Speaker 3: You know the one, of course, I know the one.
- 41:31Speaker 3: But here's the thing. Hobbs sneers and then he smiles.
- 41:34Speaker 3: I've said this before, Jess, and I don't know if
- 41:36Speaker 3: you've been heard me say this on the podcast, but
- 41:42Speaker 3: in my opinion, if I have to say, just from
- 41:46Speaker 3: looking at the wrestlers, who's the nicest guy on the
- 41:51Speaker 3: aw roster? I am immediately drawn to Will Hobbs. I
- 41:56Speaker 3: really do believe that he is just this big, we
- 42:01Speaker 3: loving pussy cat of a guy. And having him having
- 42:05Speaker 3: him as a heel, even with that really cool snarl
- 42:08Speaker 3: that he has. It's just I just can't get past
- 42:12Speaker 3: that that She's just like he's got this halo over
- 42:16Speaker 3: his head that you can't see.
- 42:18Speaker 4: The nicest guy in the company is the guy who
- 42:21Speaker 4: has eye break backs as an entrance graphic.
- 42:25Speaker 3: Yes, the big black and jack guy.
- 42:28Speaker 7: He only breaks you back of bad people.
- 42:31Speaker 2: You know, I kind of look at I'm with you, Kelson.
- 42:36Speaker 2: I don't want to boo will Hops right now. I'm
- 42:38Speaker 2: intrigued to see Shabata as a heel because he's never
- 42:41Speaker 2: been a true heel in New Japan. He is kind
- 42:43Speaker 2: of like a mercenary, so to speak. But you know,
- 42:47Speaker 2: kind of like the APA was back in the day
- 42:48Speaker 2: in WW. Not really bad guys, but they'll do bad stuff.
- 42:52Speaker 2: But like Hobbs is, Hobbs is really getting over. Like
- 42:56Speaker 2: people like seeing Hobbs beat people up. They cheer him
- 42:59Speaker 2: when he beats like it's kind of like Smo Joe
- 43:01Speaker 2: is a baby face, very similar vibes. People just really
- 43:04Speaker 2: like to cheer and see SMO Joe beat people up
- 43:07Speaker 2: because it's fun. Same thing with Ojabs. I don't like
- 43:10Speaker 2: blowing him. He can be a heel. We've seen it,
- 43:14Speaker 2: but like, I want to cheer this dude. I want
- 43:16Speaker 2: to share this guy until he established himself as a
- 43:19Speaker 2: dude and then go somewhere with him at the heel.
- 43:21Speaker 2: Like I'm I'm okay, I'll watch it, but like I'm
- 43:25Speaker 2: kind of bummed.
- 43:26Speaker 6: I've really enjoyed sharing him as a face, and I
- 43:29Speaker 6: think that's the right move for a.
- 43:30Speaker 3: Long term Barry. I don't know if you saw it,
- 43:33Speaker 3: but there were reports that came out during the week
- 43:35Speaker 3: last week that Samo Joe is basically said that once
- 43:39Speaker 3: his current his current contract with a W is up,
- 43:44Speaker 3: that he may be calling it a career. Yeah. I
- 43:49Speaker 3: kind of want to see Samoa Joe his last big
- 43:56Speaker 3: or at least one of his last big feuds against
- 44:01Speaker 3: Will Hobbs and Havejo put over Will Hobbs. You know,
- 44:05Speaker 3: let's let let that be Samo and Joe's legacy in
- 44:08Speaker 3: the start of Will Hobbs.
- 44:10Speaker 1: I need that match.
- 44:13Speaker 6: That's me too.
- 44:14Speaker 3: I'm not saying that I don't think it's a I
- 44:17Speaker 3: don't think it's a match. I think it's you know, a.
- 44:19Speaker 2: Few Yeah, we've talked. I mentioned this before. There's an
- 44:27Speaker 2: importance with certain pins with certain individuals. Putting people over,
- 44:31Speaker 2: you make somebody. John Cena's last pin is going to
- 44:34Speaker 2: make somebody when when aj Styles retires, He's going to
- 44:37Speaker 2: make somebody When Sting in general traditionally they put somebody over.
- 44:42Speaker 2: I would argue Sting made Darby when when they won
- 44:45Speaker 2: the championship with the tag champs together, Like Sumojo retiring
- 44:50Speaker 2: and putting.
- 44:50Speaker 6: Over Will Hobbs is a huge deal.
- 44:53Speaker 2: It's like when Okada puts over to Kesha, It's a
- 44:56Speaker 2: huge deal. There are some moments you're a huge deal,
- 44:59Speaker 2: and Mojo putting somebody over on the way out as
- 45:02Speaker 2: a is a star making huge deal and that's a
- 45:05Speaker 2: lot of capital that he'd be given.
- 45:07Speaker 6: I agree. I mean Kelson, I'd be a great person
- 45:09Speaker 6: for him to put over in a feud.
- 45:12Speaker 3: And the Q big guy slapping man meat, Hey give
- 45:17Speaker 3: me a meat match, brother. Everybody like meat is everybody
- 45:25Speaker 3: likes meat. Yeah, but I was really shocked when Samojo
- 45:30Speaker 3: did that the Hangman Adam page.
- 45:32Speaker 8: Uh.
- 45:34Speaker 3: Look, it made the match relevant though, because if you
- 45:39Speaker 3: listen to our prediction show last week, nobody thought that
- 45:43Speaker 3: Somemojo was going to win this match. But because he
- 45:47Speaker 3: turned on Adam Page like he did. It made the
- 45:50Speaker 3: match memorable.
- 45:52Speaker 6: It's a program though, yeah, just it's not.
- 45:56Speaker 3: It's just not, you know, a battle of the belts
- 45:58Speaker 3: one and done kind of thing. One of the things
- 46:02Speaker 3: that I failed to mention was that at Russell Dream
- 46:11Speaker 3: in the very first segment we talked about Darby Allen
- 46:13Speaker 3: and Sting. We had a big thing about Sting. That
- 46:17Speaker 3: was October eighteenth. That was one year to the day
- 46:22Speaker 3: October eighteenth, twenty twenty four, when Sting announced that his
- 46:29Speaker 3: last match would be a Revolution. So it was a
- 46:32Speaker 3: first full circle kind of thing. I did want to
- 46:34Speaker 3: just throw that out there. Let's move on to our
- 46:40Speaker 3: pope re because I think Barry you had quite a
- 46:45Speaker 3: few things that you wanted to bring up. At least
- 46:48Speaker 3: you did, I don't remember. You don't remember any of them.
- 46:51Speaker 3: Go ahead, so all right.
- 46:54Speaker 2: So one of the things I want to bring up,
- 46:57Speaker 2: This's something we chatted about a bit on the discord,
- 46:59Speaker 2: and I'm sure it was on the Reddit too or
- 47:03Speaker 2: the subredd as well. This was the first time that
- 47:07Speaker 2: I think AW did a match that carried into the
- 47:11Speaker 2: pay per view. It felt very much like Saturday Morning
- 47:14Speaker 2: Superstars or whatever. It was called back in the day
- 47:16Speaker 2: where they would have the main event and like, oh,
- 47:18Speaker 2: we're out of time. We got to go, you know,
- 47:19Speaker 2: because you gotta go to the live event if you
- 47:21Speaker 2: want to see these big matches. When they started and
- 47:24Speaker 2: Tony Shiavani was like, oh, there's only five minutes left,
- 47:27Speaker 2: are they going to go? And like we're seeing them
- 47:28Speaker 2: rush all these spots and I'm thinking hook line and sinker.
- 47:31Speaker 2: Oh man, they got cut for time. They're gonna have
- 47:32Speaker 2: to rush through. It would have been a good match.
- 47:35Speaker 2: And then I realized there's no way they're going to
- 47:37Speaker 2: wrap this up and they fade to black. I flip
- 47:40Speaker 2: over to the pay per view and boom these they
- 47:42Speaker 2: start the pay per view mid match.
- 47:46Speaker 6: I was just like, this is great.
- 47:49Speaker 3: The Pyro going off was hysterical. That was really good.
- 47:52Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like, hell, yeah, man, if you want
- 47:54Speaker 2: to get people to buy a pay per view, tease
- 47:56Speaker 2: them at the start of a good match. You want
- 47:57Speaker 2: to see the finish, you got to pop down your
- 47:59Speaker 2: forty any rate. I thought that was a really cool way.
- 48:02Speaker 2: I don't think they should do it every time, but
- 48:05Speaker 2: get a if you got one good pre show match
- 48:08Speaker 2: that you can hook them into the pay per view.
- 48:10Speaker 2: I liked that. I thought it was a fun little
- 48:12Speaker 2: continuity thing, and I'm interesting how other people felt.
- 48:16Speaker 3: I will answer you, Barry. Uh. Personally, I hated it.
- 48:20Speaker 3: I thought it was a rip off. We had somebody
- 48:24Speaker 3: in the live chat that was not able to watch
- 48:30Speaker 3: the pay per view and they got screwed out of
- 48:32Speaker 3: seeing a match that they did watch the beginning of
- 48:37Speaker 3: they didn't they never got to see the end of it.
- 48:40Speaker 3: So that's my opinion. I don't do let me put
- 48:44Speaker 3: it this way, I do not ever want to see
- 48:47Speaker 3: them do that again.
- 48:50Speaker 7: That's my opinion, complete opposite opinion. I don't want to
- 48:55Speaker 7: see them do it again for a while. You know,
- 48:58Speaker 7: you can't do that every pay per view because then
- 49:00Speaker 7: it just becomes a cluiche deal. But I'd love to
- 49:03Speaker 7: see that every you know, like every six months it happens,
- 49:10Speaker 7: not like yeah, yeah, once or twice would be perfect.
- 49:16Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 49:16Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 49:17Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent with what Barry said. I'm team
- 49:20Speaker 1: Barry on this one.
- 49:22Speaker 2: There's no wrong answer here. Kelson's perfective is totally valid.
- 49:26Speaker 2: I think people who are exactly tuned in wanting to
- 49:29Speaker 2: watch a match advertised for collision and field drift are
- 49:31Speaker 2: totally valid as well. It was fun, But like I said,
- 49:35Speaker 2: that's why you have to you can't do it on
- 49:37Speaker 2: a regular basis because the other side is a completely
- 49:40Speaker 2: valid position.
- 49:41Speaker 3: Is Barry, I'm gonna have to disagree with you again.
- 49:44Speaker 3: My my, my opinion, my opinion is the only one
- 49:47Speaker 3: that's valid. You guys are just here for the Oh
- 49:56Speaker 3: you're you're exactly right. We'll take this up next week.
- 50:00Speaker 7: I gotta ask language standards here because I really want to.
- 50:07Speaker 3: Uh uh, but we we are we are PG, not
- 50:13Speaker 3: fish tank PG. We can go a little bit beyond
- 50:17Speaker 3: fish tank, somewhere between fish tank and fingernails.
- 50:21Speaker 7: So don't use it, Okay, I will not. I can,
- 50:26Speaker 7: I can do that. I'll have to work on it,
- 50:29Speaker 7: but I can manage.
- 50:34Speaker 3: And you're gonna leave a hanging, Okay, I'm going.
- 50:38Speaker 7: I was.
- 50:38Speaker 3: I was waiting for the big reveal here and nothing happened.
- 50:42Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, sometimes sometimes you just got to keep
- 50:47Speaker 7: people waiting. Yeah, okay, but actually did I actually did
- 50:53Speaker 7: have a deal going kind of going off with very
- 50:57Speaker 7: about how Samoa Joe you know, could make Will Hobbs
- 51:01Speaker 7: with his retirement match it's not completely a W related
- 51:08Speaker 7: but as I mentioned earlier, Anahashi's retirement match is coming.
- 51:14Speaker 3: Who they gonna be? Who did be?
- 51:18Speaker 7: Someone from A.
- 51:21Speaker 3: For what I did, I didn't got to be a
- 51:23Speaker 3: New Japan guy his last match.
- 51:26Speaker 6: Who's he put over?
- 51:29Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's got to be. It's got to be
- 51:31Speaker 3: do Japan.
- 51:33Speaker 4: It's gonna be World War it's gonna be a world
- 51:35Speaker 4: famous lord.
- 51:40Speaker 6: Or like somebody.
- 51:44Speaker 3: Yeah, they can't afford to put up any and they
- 51:49Speaker 3: can't afford to put anybody but a New Japan guy
- 51:53Speaker 3: over on This was my opinion. No, I definitely don't
- 51:58Speaker 3: think it's Takeshta. They've got to put over a tried
- 52:03Speaker 3: and true New Japan Pro wrestling talent. I I really
- 52:06Speaker 3: do firmly believe that.
- 52:10Speaker 8: It's going to be my predictable prediction Kelson, you already
- 52:14Speaker 8: know who.
- 52:18Speaker 2: Kingston?
- 52:24Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, that's.
- 52:28Speaker 3: Got Now they can't it can't. The only reason I
- 52:33Speaker 3: would be happy if it was Eddie is if that
- 52:35Speaker 3: if they if a W traded a Eddie Kingston the
- 52:38Speaker 3: New Japan.
- 52:39Speaker 7: Don't you ruin my New Japan?
- 52:45Speaker 3: Serious? Because you know I have a lot of questions
- 52:48Speaker 3: about the women's tag team bracket because they announced it
- 52:53Speaker 3: sometime during or right after the Eddie Kingston and who
- 52:59Speaker 3: are you fought in the tailgate? Oh the frat house
- 53:05Speaker 3: with a hook as I turned that stuff off immediately,
- 53:09Speaker 3: and so I missed the announcement. That's why I was
- 53:11Speaker 3: asking did they say it was gonna be a pull gear?
- 53:13Speaker 3: Because I never went back and watched it. I've got
- 53:18Speaker 3: a po puri my own. It's really not a discussion topic,
- 53:21Speaker 3: but it's just something I thought you guys may be
- 53:23Speaker 3: interested in and maybe the audience would be interested in.
- 53:25Speaker 3: Friday Night CMLL, who's been on a tear lately. I
- 53:31Speaker 3: mean they've they've been putting, oh bidding on shows galore.
- 53:35Speaker 3: You you can watch CMLL on the CMLL YouTube channel.
- 53:41Speaker 3: It does cost twenty four ninety nine a month, but
- 53:43Speaker 3: my god, you get a lot of wrestling for twenty
- 53:45Speaker 3: four ninety nine a month as they put on a
- 53:47Speaker 3: show like what every two days and for sure. Yeah,
- 53:51Speaker 3: and they also have their archive up. So if you're
- 53:55Speaker 3: interested in CMLL, you know do that. But on Friday Night,
- 54:00Speaker 3: This Friday Night, they're having the Women's Grand Prix. Eighteen women,
- 54:05Speaker 3: nine CML women and nine from other companies. You've got
- 54:11Speaker 3: representation from Gosh, the Rev Pro mL W, Ring of Honor,
- 54:18Speaker 3: ae w oh TJPW in there. I'm not sure from AAW.
- 54:26Speaker 3: You've got Julia Hart, Sky Blue, Tekla, the entire Triangle
- 54:30Speaker 3: of Madness and Mina Shirakawa. That is going to be
- 54:34Speaker 3: one hell of a fun match and it's just gonna
- 54:41Speaker 3: be something. Now I don't know those structure to match
- 54:45Speaker 3: because I'm too lazy to look it up, and I
- 54:47Speaker 3: don't know what the winner gets. I'm assuming the winner
- 54:50Speaker 3: gets a shot at Mercedes Bone in the CMLL Championship,
- 54:55Speaker 3: at least, I would hope so. Or they just get
- 54:58Speaker 3: this big Honkin Trophy as Women's Grand Prix winner, you know,
- 55:02Speaker 3: and then they go about their business. But this is
- 55:05Speaker 3: this is the kind of yearly stuff that I love
- 55:09Speaker 3: and I am looking forward to it. You could also
- 55:12Speaker 3: have heard that if you watch it on if you
- 55:14Speaker 3: do get the cml L subscription, you'll be able to
- 55:17Speaker 3: watch this. But I've also heard there is a one
- 55:19Speaker 3: time by on Triller. Now the thing on Triller though
- 55:22Speaker 3: from what I've heard, and I believe it's Triller, Please
- 55:25Speaker 3: correct me if I'm wrong. Somebody in the chat, but
- 55:30Speaker 3: the Triller one comes with English commentary, where the CML
- 55:35Speaker 3: one will come with the normal Spanish commentary. Look, I
- 55:42Speaker 3: watched Startup all the time with the Japanese commentary. I'm
- 55:46Speaker 3: not lost. Wrestling is wrestling. You don't need Gordon Slowy
- 55:50Speaker 3: to tell you what a soup play is.
- 55:54Speaker 7: I do believe Thriller will have the English commentary. And
- 55:57Speaker 7: looking up the men's pre it was a twenty man elimination, Matt,
- 56:04Speaker 7: so I'm assuming the women's gonna work the same way.
- 56:07Speaker 7: Eighteen women eliminaced and you know final person wins it all.
- 56:13Speaker 3: Yeah, it's on Friday night. It's coming from Arena Mexico,
- 56:18Speaker 3: which means it probably starts at eight or eight thirty
- 56:22Speaker 3: UH Pacific time, so it'll probably be around ten ten
- 56:26Speaker 3: thirty UH Eastern time.
- 56:29Speaker 2: Chris doesn't say who's doing commentary on the English.
- 56:33Speaker 7: I don't know who it is for sure. I know
- 56:35Speaker 7: a scout has done it before, so maybe her, and
- 56:41Speaker 7: I don't know if Rocky ran I don't think Rocky
- 56:43Speaker 7: Romara is going back to Japan for R Junior Tagley,
- 56:47Speaker 7: so it could be him.
- 56:48Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it, look, it just sounds I'm just
- 56:53Speaker 3: gonna watch for that match. I mean, the other matches
- 56:56Speaker 3: are gonna be fantastic. Look the other day they just
- 56:59Speaker 3: put on a all women's and this is important because
- 57:03Speaker 3: CBL I'll put on an all women's pay per view
- 57:07Speaker 3: and it was fantastic. AW can do it if if
- 57:14Speaker 3: they wanted to.
- 57:15Speaker 1: I've been thinking the same thing. I just I think
- 57:19Speaker 1: maybe Tony's kind of waiting on it too, you know,
- 57:23Speaker 1: at least after the tag team championships, you know, are
- 57:27Speaker 1: decided and everything. But I mean, at the same time,
- 57:32Speaker 1: would people actually sit down and watch it? Would it
- 57:35Speaker 1: get like a full crowd and everything. I mean, I
- 57:37Speaker 1: would love for it to TV.
- 57:40Speaker 6: I'd do a super show.
- 57:41Speaker 3: Yeah, I would do like a Winter's one of the
- 57:44Speaker 3: one of the winter, if one of the Winter's coming things.
- 57:47Speaker 2: Why not just a brand new branding just for a women,
- 57:50Speaker 2: like a focal point for a women super show, like
- 57:53Speaker 2: a two and a half hour super show for them.
- 57:55Speaker 3: Yeah, why not?
- 57:56Speaker 1: That could be a good start.
- 57:57Speaker 3: Why not? I mean AWS women division is really really good.
- 58:02Speaker 3: And of course you can also bring in women from
- 58:06Speaker 3: if you're going to do an all women's show, whether
- 58:08Speaker 3: it's a pay per viewer, just a special TV show,
- 58:11Speaker 3: like Barry was saying, you can also bring in women
- 58:14Speaker 3: from CMLL. You could bring in women from stardom to
- 58:16Speaker 3: make it even that much more special. So now there
- 58:23Speaker 3: you go. Anybody else have a pot pourri?
- 58:27Speaker 4: I do, go ahead. This is an interesting statistic. I
- 58:31Speaker 4: have to thank that wrestle Talk for this. I love
- 58:36Speaker 4: wrestle Talk. That's pretty much my favorite wrestling news source.
- 58:39Speaker 4: And when it comes to like daily like morning news videos.
- 58:43Speaker 7: But they were.
- 58:45Speaker 9: Talking about last night's Raw and Ollie Davis mentioned that
- 58:51Speaker 9: the oldest champion during the Attitude era was forty years old.
- 58:56Speaker 9: That was Brett Hart.
- 58:59Speaker 3: Wow.
- 58:59Speaker 4: Interesting that age is now the average of champion of
- 59:06Speaker 4: WWE champions during this era.
- 59:10Speaker 3: Ah well is that what? Let me let me ask
- 59:16Speaker 3: you a question, Jess. Just that's the champions, that's not
- 59:20Speaker 3: the main events, because the main events at WWE over
- 59:24Speaker 3: the last six months have been damn near fifty.
- 59:28Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 59:29Speaker 4: Like, I'm I can probably like agree to that. Like
- 59:32Speaker 4: I don't really watch it. I just go buy the
- 59:33Speaker 4: news I get. But that sounds about right. The reason
- 59:39Speaker 4: he brought this up was because one of the.
- 59:41Speaker 9: Few young up and coming championship material stars they have
- 59:47Speaker 9: braun Breaker was placed in a position thanks to Seth
- 59:51Speaker 9: Rollins's sudden injury to actually be in a championship match.
- 59:58Speaker 9: And what would you like to know? Do you know
- 1:00:00Speaker 9: the match they booked instead?
- 1:00:03Speaker 3: No, I don't.
- 1:00:07Speaker 4: It is CM Punk versus Shoot. Who is it? This
- 1:00:16Speaker 4: is how much I watched.
- 1:00:18Speaker 6: It's true McIntyre, I think, right, Drew.
- 1:00:21Speaker 3: I think so, Harley Rice.
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: I thought Drew is feuding with Cody Rhodes right now,
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: So I don't know if it's Drew. At least that's
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: what I saw. I see the little clips. I haven't
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: watched w W in a very long time, but I
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: see little clips.
- 1:00:40Speaker 4: Versus jay Us.
- 1:00:41Speaker 5: So yeah, but.
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: I hate that word so much.
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: To me.
- 1:00:58Speaker 4: Is like throwing some went out a window.
- 1:01:02Speaker 5: Ye, yeah, I hear that.
- 1:01:05Speaker 7: When I hear ye, I mean she immediately picture Uncle
- 1:01:08Speaker 7: Phil throwing out the house.
- 1:01:12Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 1:01:16Speaker 4: Yeah, heat is throwing somebody like you put something up
- 1:01:20Speaker 4: and across the room.
- 1:01:21Speaker 3: Yeah that makes sense. Well, does anybody else have a potpourri?
- 1:01:28Speaker 8: I just have a comment about Russell Dream. I noticed
- 1:01:33Speaker 8: that this is one of the only or maybe very
- 1:01:36Speaker 8: few pay per views where no one destroyed the Spanish
- 1:01:41Speaker 8: announced table, and I was surprised. I thought Claudio was
- 1:01:47Speaker 8: maybe gonna throw Darby into the Spanish announced table.
- 1:01:50Speaker 6: But they switched it up on me. So yeah, I was.
- 1:01:54Speaker 8: I was shocked that for once they didn't get.
- 1:01:56Speaker 6: Their table destroyed.
- 1:02:00Speaker 4: Miracle of miracles.
- 1:02:02Speaker 3: Yeah, well, they sure did a number on the regular
- 1:02:07Speaker 3: announce stable, that's for sure.
- 1:02:10Speaker 7: Every time.
- 1:02:13Speaker 3: I mean, Claudia Castley grabbed Darby, Allen held him above
- 1:02:17Speaker 3: his head and you did it right out of the ring.
- 1:02:20Speaker 2: There you go. If for any reason, Anthony Khan is
- 1:02:29Speaker 2: listening to this podcast, I understand it's a Saturday and
- 1:02:33Speaker 2: most people don't have to work on Sundays, but for
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: the love of God, brother, please on your pay per
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: views by eleven thirty. I don't care what day of
- 1:02:41Speaker 2: the week, but like, nobody wants to stay it past midnight.
- 1:02:45Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, if you're gonna have them gone along something
- 1:02:48Speaker 4: to actually like.
- 1:02:49Speaker 7: Yeah, I really enjoyed the afternoon papers.
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: Like to.
- 1:02:57Speaker 7: Have something to do you're in the middle of I.
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: Know that's not always pop possible, but like, if it's like,
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: especially if it's a Sunday, you gotta be done by
- 1:03:05Speaker 2: eleven thirty.
- 1:03:06Speaker 6: Like you got it, Like, yeah, nobody wants it to go.
- 1:03:10Speaker 7: That long man like yees Sunday Sunday, they absolutely need
- 1:03:14Speaker 7: to do the afternoon.
- 1:03:16Speaker 3: I don't know at all. Yeah, I don't know if
- 1:03:19Speaker 3: it's my age or what. But like, for example, after
- 1:03:22Speaker 3: all In, which was on a Saturday at two, I
- 1:03:26Speaker 3: didn't recover from all In until like Monday at noon.
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: Okay, so you guys are all on the East coast,
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: I'm guessing. Yeah, yeah, ah, yes I am West Coast,
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: so you're eight eight, So I absolutely have no problem
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: with the time.
- 1:03:47Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it won't deal for me. For me,
- 1:03:49Speaker 7: it was over at eleven thirty, and I stayed up
- 1:03:52Speaker 7: and watched the new Japan Stoke that started at one am.
- 1:03:55Speaker 7: So but yeah, time deal for the after noon shows.
- 1:04:01Speaker 3: So it was just nice, you know it.
- 1:04:04Speaker 7: You go, you pick up, you pick up some lunch,
- 1:04:06Speaker 7: you come home, you watch wrestling, and then you've still
- 1:04:09Speaker 7: got tonight too. Well it might tas be boring and
- 1:04:13Speaker 7: watch more wrestling, but you know, for normal people go
- 1:04:16Speaker 7: out and do something.
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: Yeah, it ends at like eight thirty nine. Here, it
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: took my kids into a bed and then me and
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: my husband sit down and talk about from pay per view.
- 1:04:27Speaker 3: Yeah, well one last thing that I want to make
- 1:04:29Speaker 3: a comment about, uh is Emmy Saker and Rio participated
- 1:04:34Speaker 3: in Starlight Kids tenth year anniversary show in Stardom. Jess,
- 1:04:38Speaker 3: you need to mute.
- 1:04:42Speaker 6: Thank you.
- 1:04:47Speaker 3: There you go. It was weird too because Amy Sacker
- 1:04:53Speaker 3: was actually on the well somewhat of a babyface team
- 1:04:58Speaker 3: and Rijo is definitely on the heel team. And Rijo
- 1:05:04Speaker 3: got the pin of all things. They were at a
- 1:05:07Speaker 3: three on three match, so it was interesting. I just
- 1:05:10Speaker 3: thought I just wanted to bring that up that that
- 1:05:13Speaker 3: was the first time that Rio has been in a
- 1:05:16Speaker 3: stardom match since twenty twenty. So, yeah, anybody else with
- 1:05:23Speaker 3: anything they want to bring.
- 1:05:24Speaker 7: Up, well, I'm just gonna I believe that Starlight His
- 1:05:28Speaker 7: show is free on YouTube because there was a right
- 1:05:32Speaker 7: which their program, so you know, for anyone who wants
- 1:05:36Speaker 7: to watch it, it's up there.
- 1:05:38Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a it's a lot of special guests and whatnot.
- 1:05:42Speaker 3: My favorite spot was I don't I for a life
- 1:05:45Speaker 3: of me, I do not remember who Starlight Kids partners were,
- 1:05:50Speaker 3: but all three they went after the mask. There was
- 1:05:52Speaker 3: a three on three match. Starlight Kid had two men
- 1:05:55Speaker 3: on her side, Eldo right, dragging it. They got their
- 1:06:03Speaker 3: El Esperando and Dragon Kid got their masks ripped off,
- 1:06:06Speaker 3: like right at the beginning of a match, and then
- 1:06:08Speaker 3: they got them back immediately, but they got the wrong
- 1:06:11Speaker 3: masks back, so El Desperando had Dragon Kid's mask on,
- 1:06:15Speaker 3: and it was just it was this kind of, you know,
- 1:06:19Speaker 3: a tongue in cheek cute moment, and Starlight Kid apparently
- 1:06:24Speaker 3: booked the show, and she booked herself to lose on
- 1:06:28Speaker 3: her own tenth year anniversary show. Go figure, it went out,
- 1:06:34Speaker 3: so yep, she ate the pin so but it was
- 1:06:37Speaker 3: weird because you're an intergender match and they had the
- 1:06:45Speaker 3: women fighting the men, like that's the way it goes.
- 1:06:49Speaker 3: It's no like, okay, you tag it and that's it.
- 1:06:52Speaker 3: It's women versus No. The women fought the men and
- 1:06:56Speaker 3: they did a damn good thing. But it's actually really
- 1:06:58Speaker 3: kind of hysterical considering Starlight Kid is what all of
- 1:07:01Speaker 3: four foot nine, I mean, she's tiny, but my god,
- 1:07:05Speaker 3: is she phenomenal or you know, it's she could do
- 1:07:11Speaker 3: no wrong? Really, So.
- 1:07:16Speaker 6: Do you think we ever get to see her in
- 1:07:17Speaker 6: aw TV? I hope So I think man, like, I
- 1:07:23Speaker 6: really don't love that.
- 1:07:25Speaker 3: Well when what was it like before all out? Tony
- 1:07:30Speaker 3: Conn was asked who that's not in the company? Did?
- 1:07:34Speaker 3: Would he uh like to see? Which were?
- 1:07:38Speaker 7: Like?
- 1:07:38Speaker 3: Who are is her favorites? And he immediately named Starlight
- 1:07:41Speaker 3: Kid first one out of his mouth. I believe with
- 1:07:44Speaker 3: Starlight Kid, and of course is Zuomi you know, uh
- 1:07:48Speaker 3: so because with the men, there's really not any men
- 1:07:51Speaker 3: because he got them all So all right, Well, that's
- 1:07:58Speaker 3: gonna be the end of the show. We'll be back
- 1:08:00Speaker 3: tomorrow night, right after Dynamite, so be sure to join
- 1:08:03Speaker 3: us for our Dynamite review show. It's only going to
- 1:08:07Speaker 3: be about a twenty minute review. We don't break down
- 1:08:10Speaker 3: every match, we just break down the highlights. So please
- 1:08:15Speaker 3: join us tomorrow night after Dynamite. Right after Dynamite goes
- 1:08:20Speaker 3: off the air, we'll be back here to talk about Dynamite.
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- 1:09:02Speaker 3: This is Kelson, good night, everybody, good night, Eddie Kingston.
- 1:09:08Speaker 4: Good night, good night.
- 1:09:11Speaker 6: Oh God,