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S21, #6: "Paradise Returns" · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with i R Radio. What's going on? I'm Ben? Oh
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Speaker 1: my gosh, Ven is so peppy today? Yeah? I am
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Speaker 1: because I get to be with you. We're in studio
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Speaker 1: together finally. Um, so much to talk about, so much
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Speaker 1: to talk about. So let's start with this recap on
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Speaker 1: all that's happened in Bachelor in Paradise up until the day,
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Speaker 1: which is that, well, when you last heard from us,
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Speaker 1: we didn't know whether or not they were going to
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Speaker 1: resume filming, and to the joys of all of Bachelor
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Speaker 1: Nation out there, they have. They're all back, right, They're
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Speaker 1: all back now. I do believe that they all flew
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Speaker 1: back on Friday and Saturday, and I think today might
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Speaker 1: be the first day that they're continuing to film. That's awesome,
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Speaker 1: But honestly, there hasn't been a lot of news about
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Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise since the events of Karentin Tomorrow kind
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Speaker 1: of Um, I guess we're released to the public. I'm
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Speaker 1: I'm lost. I don't even know who's back down there.
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Speaker 1: I don't know who left, who stayed. It seems like
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Speaker 1: the only people who are not back down there are
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Speaker 1: current and to Mario and Melanie from the News. Melanie
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Speaker 1: Bromny from the News got the first exclusive interview with
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Speaker 1: the Mario and it's um, it's any news, But we
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Speaker 1: want to talk to Melanie a little bit about all
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Speaker 1: the details and how she got that interview, which has
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Speaker 1: been so sought after. Melanie's out there right now, Melanie,
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Speaker 1: are you there, I'm here. How are you guys? Hello,
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Speaker 1: how are you? We're great. Good. As far as getting
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Speaker 1: the interview, it was just that, you know, he really
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Speaker 1: wanted to tell his story, and I think, you know,
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Speaker 1: we did this interview actually the day after Warner Brothers
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Speaker 1: had cleared him in their own internal investigation, and he's
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Speaker 1: very keen to talk and to kind of be able
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Speaker 1: to talk about the experience from his side. Him and
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Speaker 1: I actually had a mutual friend, which is how he
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Speaker 1: came to me. That's why it all happened. Interesting, that
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Speaker 1: was my first question to you. I mean, I think
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Speaker 1: everybody out there wanted this interview, or at least desired
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Speaker 1: to hear kind of from because up unto this point,
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Speaker 1: Karin has not done an interview with anybody. Correct, Yes,
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Speaker 1: that's right, but you know she's also her lawyer Marty
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Speaker 1: Singer wants the investigation to continue. So as far as
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Speaker 1: she's concerned, this isn't something that's over. Okay, Yeah, so
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Speaker 1: tomorrow though, So I mean, I guess to say Tomorrow
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Speaker 1: does believe this is over that for him and absolutely
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Speaker 1: is over. Now, I'll say there is still obviously some
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Speaker 1: things that are hanging here. As party hasn't spoken to
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Speaker 1: Karin since they left to Mexico, he really wants to
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Speaker 1: speak to her. But as far as he's aware, because
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Speaker 1: he's been cleared by Warner Brothers because there's tape, he
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Speaker 1: actually feels that in his eyes, this is something that
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Speaker 1: is over. So does that mean that Karin hasn't been
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Speaker 1: clear about Warner Brothers. Oh no, you know, Warner Brothers
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Speaker 1: have said that the investigation is over internally, that's why
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Speaker 1: they stopped filming, but now they've resumed filming. They said
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Speaker 1: that Bacher paralysis coming back. It's Current's lawyer that believes
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Speaker 1: that there should be further investigation that takes place. But
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Speaker 1: as far as the Mario is confirmed, you know, he
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Speaker 1: said like there is tape out there and he actually
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Speaker 1: wants people to see that tape. Now, Warner Brothers have
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Speaker 1: said that nobody is going to see that tape, But
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Speaker 1: he says that he feels that if people saw the
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Speaker 1: tape that it would absolutely clear him, that people would
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Speaker 1: understand how it happened, how they were in the swimming,
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Speaker 1: pulled together all the events leading up to it, because
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Speaker 1: every single thing was captured on videos. You know, I
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Speaker 1: know this is airing in two parts. I guess actually
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Speaker 1: I just want to know right now to kind of
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Speaker 1: set the tone for the rest of this conversation with you,
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Speaker 1: is how is the Marow doing from your perspective? He's okay.
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Speaker 1: You know, the day I spoke to him, so the
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Speaker 1: day after he had being cleared, he was careful. He
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Speaker 1: was still kind of reeling from the whole experience of
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Speaker 1: what had happened for him. He definitely feels that he
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Speaker 1: is innocent and that actually he believes that just the
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Speaker 1: whole as far as when the story broke that people
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Speaker 1: just assumed that he was a sexual sexual assaulter, that
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Speaker 1: he was a sexual predator. That that was a really,
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Speaker 1: really horrific situation to go through, and so he's definitely recovering.
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Speaker 1: He says it was the worst eleven days of his life.
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Speaker 1: That he's going to take him a long time to
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Speaker 1: get over it. But I have to say he was
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Speaker 1: actually um not bitter, which I've spoken to people after
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Speaker 1: scoundals before where they felt that there is somebody to blame.
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Speaker 1: He wasn't like that at all. He was very much
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Speaker 1: just so grateful for having his family and friends and
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Speaker 1: the court network that he had around him. I heard
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Speaker 1: that his family was taking it pretty hard. Yeah, well,
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Speaker 1: he said that his mother was crying every single day,
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Speaker 1: but that his father had been a real rock to him.
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Speaker 1: And he also said, you know, he is used to
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Speaker 1: having very strong women around him. That's his mother, his
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Speaker 1: his author grandmother as well. He spoke about and you
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Speaker 1: know what he spoke about Karin and how all he
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Speaker 1: wanted to do was to speak to her and to
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Speaker 1: give her a hug because while he feels like here's
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Speaker 1: in somewhere vixed him in the sense that, you know,
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Speaker 1: his name was out there, and he definitely sees it's
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Speaker 1: potentially a race thing, you know, black man, white woman,
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Speaker 1: and people presumes that he was guilty initially over social media.
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Speaker 1: So he also saw that she was also a victim
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Speaker 1: in the situation that people were shaming her. We're calling
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Speaker 1: her various names as far as um like her behavior
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Speaker 1: with men in the past, and that really really upset
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Speaker 1: him too. So all he wanted to do was to
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Speaker 1: give her a hug and tell her that, you know,
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Speaker 1: he understood what she had gone through as well. It's
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Speaker 1: it's I mean, as had been talking about this situation
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Speaker 1: now for the last couple of weeks, and it is
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Speaker 1: one that is um has been heavy I think on
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Speaker 1: our hearts, like as we talk about it, and it
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Speaker 1: is one that it isn't easy to talk about because
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Speaker 1: of situations like this where there are multiple people involved
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Speaker 1: and a lot of people are hurt, and there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of confusion and assumptions made um And you know,
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Speaker 1: it's nice to know that you've talked to him in
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Speaker 1: and that's his perspective. I mean, what an incredible perspective
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Speaker 1: from somebody to say, hey, I know this is hard
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Speaker 1: for everybody. I just want to be there. Yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: so nice to hear that they are sensitive to each
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Speaker 1: other and that they still want to be friends after
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Speaker 1: all this. Now, I didn't know if she wants to
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Speaker 1: be friends with him. This was this was his perspective
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Speaker 1: and what he was saying. But I also said to him,
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Speaker 1: you know, look, this show is going back. They're going
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Speaker 1: to be filming again. They've obviously profited from the scandal
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Speaker 1: in the sense that there's more buzz than ever before
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Speaker 1: about Thatcher in Paradise. There's more kind of intrigue about
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Speaker 1: the show. Do you blame them at all? And he
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Speaker 1: was like, no, I see them as victims too. He
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Speaker 1: was very kind of balanced that would say there wasn't
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Speaker 1: a bad guy or a bad woman in this situation
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Speaker 1: for him, as far as he was aware. With the
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Speaker 1: production side of things, there were three hundred people who
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Speaker 1: were not paid because the show, because they stopped filming,
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Speaker 1: and he was like, you know, while at first when
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Speaker 1: they said we're stopping down filming, and at first he
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Speaker 1: was like, I can't believe I'm going home. I've done
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Speaker 1: nothing wrong. He then thought, oh gosh, there are fathers here,
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Speaker 1: there are mothers here. There are people here that are
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Speaker 1: not going to have their paycheck in order to pay
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Speaker 1: their bills because they're not going to be able to
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Speaker 1: be working on this production, which, honestly, I have to say,
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Speaker 1: it was like such an extraordinary perspective that he had
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Speaker 1: such a massive amount of empathy that he had for
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Speaker 1: every single person involved in this. There wasn't anybody that
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Speaker 1: he looked to and could blame for the situation. So
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Speaker 1: it seems like he's pretty happy that they resumed filming,
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Speaker 1: and I have to ask, is there a reason why
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Speaker 1: he didn't go back. Well, I mean that I don't
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Speaker 1: think that decision has ultimately been major. Actually, I know
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Speaker 1: I've read a lot of things on the internet that day.
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Speaker 1: He's definitely not, but as far as he was concerned
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Speaker 1: a few days ago, it was some thing that he
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Speaker 1: would potentially consider despite what's happened in the past now,
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Speaker 1: as far as he's aware, when he was on The Bachelor,
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Speaker 1: he was, you know, considered to be a cheater, which
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Speaker 1: he says was unfair that the woman that came back
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Speaker 1: into his life on the Bachelor that was something from
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Speaker 1: the past and not something that was relevant for that.
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Speaker 1: He then went on Bachroom Paradise to redeem himself. He
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Speaker 1: now feels like that's been an unfair situation, but there's
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Speaker 1: also a sense in him that he wants to redeem
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Speaker 1: himself again and that going back gives him a third chance.
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Speaker 1: I definitely like audjusted to him, maybe he shouldn't do that,
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Speaker 1: but it's something that I think he very much just
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Speaker 1: wants to tell his side and and really kind of
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Speaker 1: explained to people who he is. And I think as
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Speaker 1: parrap he's aware. He's had two instances where he's looked
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Speaker 1: like the villain, like the bad guy, and in both
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Speaker 1: instances he says he's innocent. Yeah. Well, I know this
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Speaker 1: is a two part um show, three parts wow is
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Speaker 1: and we can't cover it all in the five minutes
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Speaker 1: of this you know segment. Um. I encourage anybody out
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Speaker 1: there if they want to hear more of Tomorrow's story.
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Speaker 1: And it sounds like Tomorrow's story is one that's coming
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Speaker 1: from a good place. Um. It's coming from a place
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Speaker 1: of like you said, empathy and just um he I
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Speaker 1: guess for any lack of a better term, just um,
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Speaker 1: grace and peace, which is impressive. Um and uh. And
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Speaker 1: I I asked anybody tune in to Melanie Brown Lee's
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Speaker 1: interview with the Mario on E. Um, it's two more
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Speaker 1: parts we have to look forward to. Yeah, and we
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Speaker 1: will also have I'm putting up a Q and a
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Speaker 1: a print version of the on E online as well
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Speaker 1: so people can catch up as well. Perfacing, Thank you
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Speaker 1: for joining us, Melanie, you gave us so much in Oh,
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Speaker 1: thank you so much. Fine, And then just have to
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Speaker 1: add before we go on to the currencieson at the Bachelorette,
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Speaker 1: that we have exclusive information that they will be showing
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Speaker 1: a lot of the footage that led up to the
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Speaker 1: shutdown on this coming season a Bachelor in Paradise. That's
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Speaker 1: surprising to me. I think so too. I was very concerned.
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Speaker 1: I was like, are they going to just start fresh
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Speaker 1: or are they going to tend like nothing happened? I agree, no.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's almost like there's so much risk in
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Speaker 1: them showing it in my eyes. But but then I
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Speaker 1: guess if they do show it, it's showing some confidence
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Speaker 1: from the production company. Hey what we're going to show
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Speaker 1: exactly what happened in and I guess maybe the audience
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Speaker 1: be the judge totally. And this way, I just you know,
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Speaker 1: my initial thought was that they were going to use
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Speaker 1: the first day footage and the second day and third
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Speaker 1: day footage, but then they weren't going to end up
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Speaker 1: showing current to Mario at all, just completely cut them
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Speaker 1: out of it. Well, um, I will be watching Bachelor
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Speaker 1: in Paradise. I'm assuming a lot of Bachelor Nation will
10:55
Speaker 1: be watching the first episode, at least in Paradise. I'm
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Speaker 1: guessing that a lot of people that don't normally watch
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Speaker 1: the Bachelor franchise are going to be tuning in. Yeah,
11:03
Speaker 1: so you're you're looking forward to watching it? Then? Oh? Absolutely,
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Speaker 1: I agree. UM. So we have a couple of topics
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Speaker 1: I just want to talk about and around Bachelor Paradise
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Speaker 1: now that people have gone back. Um. One that I'm
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Speaker 1: annaristed in is Amanda stand. She is Amanda Stand was
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Speaker 1: on the season of The Bachelor that I was a
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Speaker 1: part of. Amanda is a mother of two. Um, She,
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Speaker 1: in my eyes, has been amazing. I always enjoyed my
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Speaker 1: time with Amanda. I have a lot of respect for her.
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Speaker 1: For her, Um, I can't say I would love to
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Speaker 1: have talked to me. I haven't talked to her. You know.
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Speaker 1: Her going back on Bachelor Paradise surprised me. I'm not
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Speaker 1: saying good or bad decision. I don't know that yet. Well,
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Speaker 1: we'll wait and see. But it's surprising that Amanda did
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Speaker 1: go back to me. I am now excited to kind
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Speaker 1: of see her journey. Do you agree? Like, what's your
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Speaker 1: thoughts on that? I think when I was giving Amanda
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Speaker 1: advice as to like whether or not she should go,
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Speaker 1: I kind of went back and forth because she just
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Speaker 1: kept telling me that she had this urge to do
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Speaker 1: it there. She couldn't describe it, but just wanted to
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Speaker 1: do it. And I said, that's exactly how I felt
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Speaker 1: my third time, and everybody was telling me, Oh, it's
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Speaker 1: gonna be a bad decision, don't do it. But then
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Speaker 1: I did it, and I mean, it wasn't a fun time,
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Speaker 1: but I was also really glad that I did do
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Speaker 1: it for the experience and it and I watched I
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Speaker 1: watched your third experience. I mean, in my eyes as
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Speaker 1: a viewer, and tell me if I'm wrong, because I
12:21
Speaker 1: really am just a fan. It almost looked like you
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Speaker 1: had closure, kind of saying Okay, I'm done, Like this
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Speaker 1: was it, This is done. I'm closed off from Batchelor Paradise.
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Speaker 1: I gave it a good shot. Now, do you still
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Speaker 1: have that urge yourself to go back or is that
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Speaker 1: chapter in your life seem to be closed because of
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Speaker 1: that third experience? Um, I mean, it's definitely urge is
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Speaker 1: definitely gone. And maybe it was because of the personal
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Speaker 1: business that I felt like I needed to take care
12:42
Speaker 1: of And maybe that wouldn't have happened if it hadn't
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Speaker 1: been for Paradise, or at least it would have been
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Speaker 1: dragged on for a while more, you know, because you're
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Speaker 1: kind of forced to address certain issues when you're on
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Speaker 1: screen with the Bachelor. So I mean, I think it
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Speaker 1: was a good choice for a lot of reasons. I
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Speaker 1: definitely was able to move on because of doing it
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Speaker 1: three times. But the thing is, it's like Amanda didn't
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Speaker 1: really need to move on. I think for her, she
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Speaker 1: maybe wanted to start a new chapter when I didn't
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Speaker 1: have to do it with Josh. And Amanda is my
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Speaker 1: closest friend who is down there in Paradise right now.
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Speaker 1: You know, if I know that she's into I know
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Speaker 1: that if there is one guy down there that she's into,
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Speaker 1: it is Wells. And she's been pretty open with me
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Speaker 1: about that. And she used to be a hot commodity.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a great dude. I like Wells, but
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Speaker 1: he is a hot commodity with these women right now,
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Speaker 1: everybote he's the only He's not the only option. But
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Speaker 1: to me, like if I were down there, it would
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Speaker 1: be only about Wells, and maybe one other person that
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Speaker 1: I believe is down there. I got to find out
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Speaker 1: what he's honestly, I mean he is, but also he
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Speaker 1: is the bartender, so we're not really sure that he's
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Speaker 1: going to be dating. I mean, I know that he
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Speaker 1: doesn't really want to. I mean, actually, how would you
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Speaker 1: feel if Amanda dated Wells? For example? It's not my
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Speaker 1: most favorite idea, but it's also some very weird thing
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Speaker 1: that you have to deal with. If you're part of
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Speaker 1: this batch a family of ours, you kind of have
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Speaker 1: to be okay with the thought of your friend liking
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Speaker 1: your quote. X. Yeah. I mean, actually, I will say
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Speaker 1: this from from my perspective of you. I think you
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Speaker 1: do something I want. I know where it comes from.
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Speaker 1: You have a massive heart, and you care about these
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Speaker 1: men that you like really out of I guess what
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to say is out of anybody that I've
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Speaker 1: met from the show that has had a fling on
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Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise or on The Bachelor, you, out of anybody,
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Speaker 1: care about those people the most coming off the show
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Speaker 1: as well. Like, you're not just saying, hey, I still
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Speaker 1: have a thing for Wells because and like I don't
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Speaker 1: want him dating anybody else. You're just saying it still
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Speaker 1: hurts because I allowed myself to fall for that guy
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Speaker 1: and Jared, and I don't know if there's anybody else.
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Speaker 1: But you still look at this now and you say, hey,
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Speaker 1: it just sucks. Like you're honest with it too. You don't,
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Speaker 1: You're not hiding it. It's hard to watch these guys
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Speaker 1: day other women because I really cared for them at
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Speaker 1: some point. Yeah, totally. When I knew that Wells was
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Speaker 1: gonna go to Paradise, I definitely thought this is gonna
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Speaker 1: be a little bit less enjoy able watching back then,
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Speaker 1: I thought it would be definitely Would you ever date
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Speaker 1: anyone from the Bachelor World? I think we talked about
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Speaker 1: this the first time and you said that nobody from
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Speaker 1: your season. Well, you know, it's hard for me right now.
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Speaker 1: It is because I'm trying to get out there. I'm
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Speaker 1: trying to explore and like I'm doing the best I
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Speaker 1: can at that, but there's still moments where right now
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Speaker 1: it's like dating somebody just seems so weird, you know,
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Speaker 1: Like I know, it's a process of kind of getting
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Speaker 1: yourself back out there. I don't know what that process
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Speaker 1: looks like. I'm knowing me I'm gonna mess up really
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Speaker 1: bad at it a thousand times and then somehow spit
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Speaker 1: myself out and say, hey, I'm ready to date again. Um,
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Speaker 1: I don't want to close that door. That just seems
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Speaker 1: I mean, I actually I listened to Lauren on a
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Speaker 1: on a podcast this week and she's they asked the
15:41
Speaker 1: same question. She says, well, I'm not going to close
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Speaker 1: the door to dating somebody in the batchelor just that's
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Speaker 1: just ridiculous. But but there's nobody at this point that
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, oh, I want to pursue that, And there's
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Speaker 1: actually nobody that I'm saying I'm ready to pursue that. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, going back on a show again would be hard. Um,
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Speaker 1: going back into the experience again to doesn't seem smart.
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Speaker 1: But to kind of close this thought, it just says, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean I don't want to close that off. There
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Speaker 1: are some great people that have came out of this franchise.
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Speaker 1: Why would I not stay open to it. Yeah, there's that,
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Speaker 1: And I'm definitely not saying that I'm closed off to
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Speaker 1: it either. But I do have to mention that it
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Speaker 1: is harder to get over somebody in our bachelor family
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Speaker 1: because we see them all the time, Like, I can't
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Speaker 1: just cut these guys out of my life. And then
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Speaker 1: even if I tried to, like not go to any
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Speaker 1: events that they were ever going to be at, I'd
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Speaker 1: still have to see them on TV. It's a kissing.
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Speaker 1: And here's the craziest part for me, is you're gonna
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Speaker 1: get away from it once if you start dating one person.
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Speaker 1: I already hear about it on all the textures in
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Speaker 1: my part of I know who everybody's kissing. And then
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Speaker 1: even if you weren't there and you don't have people
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Speaker 1: who want to tell you what's going on, then there's
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Speaker 1: like reality Steve and he'll just like tweet it and
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Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, you're not hiding in this world, okay,
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Speaker 1: speaking of this world. Actually, I I'll just be honest.
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Speaker 1: have one in front of me for anybody out there.
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Speaker 1: I honestly, it smells like woman, and I don't know alright,
17:27
Speaker 1: this fabfit Fund box. I've been getting one each season.
17:31
Speaker 1: There's four boxes that get delivered to your door a year,
17:35
Speaker 1: and you order them at fabfit fund dot com. But
17:38
Speaker 1: the thing is they've been getting so much better over
17:42
Speaker 1: the past two years. They've always been great, but every
17:45
Speaker 1: because they're sponsoring the things. You're right, it's a subscription box.
17:49
Speaker 1: You go to fab fit fund dot com and you
17:51
Speaker 1: sign up and then you get two hundred dollars worth
17:55
Speaker 1: of merchandise for only which is just in saying. And
18:00
Speaker 1: I have got to say that is an actual statistic
18:03
Speaker 1: right there, because there's this doctor Jarts exfoliant that if
18:06
Speaker 1: you go to Sephora it's over seventy dollars, but I
18:10
Speaker 1: got it in my fab bit pun box along with
18:12
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of other stuff that totaled up to
18:14
Speaker 1: only fifty I'm putting some of this, uh this says
18:17
Speaker 1: I cream on right now. Yeah, you are doing it
18:20
Speaker 1: for real, And I mean I'm a big fan of concentrates.
18:25
Speaker 1: That's all right. Well, I can actually give you some recommendations,
18:32
Speaker 1: you know, Ben's just trying them out right now. But
18:34
Speaker 1: my favorite product from this summer's box is this how
18:39
Speaker 1: am I going to say this? Author meal? How do
18:42
Speaker 1: you say this in French? I mean, actually, you're asking
18:44
Speaker 1: me something that it's avny whatever it is sunscreen, and
18:49
Speaker 1: it is. I'm not just talking this up because this
18:51
Speaker 1: is a sponsored ad. I'm letting you know that I
18:54
Speaker 1: used to sunscreen every morning now and it makes your
18:57
Speaker 1: skin feel like silk, and it doesn't leave you purply,
19:01
Speaker 1: and it doesn't make your makeup look cakey like a
19:04
Speaker 1: lot of other songs. I believe it's pronounced. Then then well,
19:10
Speaker 1: here's the deal. I don't want my makeup looking cakey
19:13
Speaker 1: in the morning. I uh, you know the fab bum box.
19:17
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here. I'm just gonna go through it. But
19:19
Speaker 1: if I keep doing that, I distract myself from the podcast.
19:22
Speaker 1: UM make sure um to use if you're interested, and
19:26
Speaker 1: I am telling you I just use the I cream.
19:28
Speaker 1: It feels nice, I feel refreshed. Uh. Go to fab
19:31
Speaker 1: fit fun dot com use the promo code almost famous,
19:35
Speaker 1: and you can get ten dollars off on this box,
19:38
Speaker 1: which Ashley's already mentioned. It's a great deal already. Yeah,
19:41
Speaker 1: and then you get it for thirty nine Like that's insane.
19:44
Speaker 1: So just use our code and then you get Ben's
19:46
Speaker 1: favorite I Cream. Ben, do you use I Cream as
19:49
Speaker 1: a guy? Like? Is that encouraged? I do use I
19:52
Speaker 1: Cream as a guy. You do know? I do? No,
19:54
Speaker 1: I do um because I'm starting to get some some
19:58
Speaker 1: You're starting to see the yeah, blemishes. Don't use I
20:02
Speaker 1: cream for blemishes, crow's feet, started to get some crows feet. Actually,
20:08
Speaker 1: to be honest, you don't have any crow's feet really,
20:10
Speaker 1: so the I cream must be working for you actually always.
20:17
Speaker 1: By the way, you got to email us at bit
20:19
Speaker 1: and Ashley at i heeart meat dot com for any comments, concern, praise, critiques.
20:26
Speaker 1: Make sure you do it. Ben, did you watch the
20:28
Speaker 1: first episode of this week's Bachelorette Extravaganza? We had four
20:32
Speaker 1: hours in one week. It's a big week. It's a
20:34
Speaker 1: lot of sitting, a lot of Yeah. Well, we've started off,
20:39
Speaker 1: of course with Kenny and Lee, because there's always Kenny
20:42
Speaker 1: and Lee drama. And they were at the group day
20:45
Speaker 1: and this is the amazing confrontation in which Kenny was like,
20:51
Speaker 1: you're a little bitch and then he said he was
20:53
Speaker 1: going to poop and poop because we're clean here on
20:56
Speaker 1: the Benn and Ashley almost in his podcast in his
20:59
Speaker 1: cowboy way boots and all the guys are relishing in it.
21:03
Speaker 1: Can we just stop before we continue on this second?
21:05
Speaker 1: What's up with this season and these guys and their
21:07
Speaker 1: comebacks to each other? Like you go back to the
21:09
Speaker 1: wa boom and uh the guy's name, um conflict that
21:13
Speaker 1: we we re enacted in here, and then you go
21:16
Speaker 1: into this guy saying I'm gonna poop in your cowboy boots.
21:19
Speaker 1: I think it's so funny, but like, what does that
21:22
Speaker 1: even mean? Like, can you poop on command? Is that? No,
21:25
Speaker 1: he's gonna bring his shoe into the bathroom next time
21:27
Speaker 1: he needs to go. Well, hey, I've never had that
21:30
Speaker 1: done to me. I hope it never gets done to me.
21:33
Speaker 1: And if I was a guy, I was just saying,
21:34
Speaker 1: if I'm competing for a woman's heart, I'm not talking
21:37
Speaker 1: about pooping on anything and including cowboy boots. Did you
21:41
Speaker 1: hear that in um the season after your chat season?
21:45
Speaker 1: But there was, um, well, actually let's introduced chat right now.
21:52
Speaker 1: Villain who's just absolutely not a villain at all if
21:54
Speaker 1: you get to know him. Um, do you like that?
21:57
Speaker 1: Do you want to be called a villain or do
21:58
Speaker 1: you want me to say that you're not a villain
21:59
Speaker 1: at all. You know. The one thing I'll say is that, like,
22:02
Speaker 1: as far as like the people that approached me, it's
22:03
Speaker 1: been super great for me. You know, I've met some
22:05
Speaker 1: of the other guys off and I've seen some of
22:07
Speaker 1: the girls that come up with them at their appearances
22:08
Speaker 1: and stuff, and uh, it's like they were, like, Dude,
22:12
Speaker 1: we played the good guy on the show. This is
22:13
Speaker 1: the girls we're dealing with now. Because it's like I
22:15
Speaker 1: only get like those club girls, you know what I mean.
22:20
Speaker 1: I love that point. So you get a different breed
22:22
Speaker 1: of girl depending on your I only get the girls
22:25
Speaker 1: that understand that the cocky guy, you know. So it's
22:28
Speaker 1: it's fantastic for me. Sorry, go ahead. Yeah, So you're
22:32
Speaker 1: saying it's fantastic for you. In my mind, I thought, wait,
22:35
Speaker 1: you're only getting the club girl and they're getting like
22:37
Speaker 1: nice girls. Well, they're getting the club girls are nice.
22:40
Speaker 1: You got to take them out of the club. But
22:43
Speaker 1: I this, yeah, and I'm sure they have great morals
22:46
Speaker 1: outside of the club. Ben can't judge because there at
22:48
Speaker 1: the club. Oh my gosh, this is making me think
22:51
Speaker 1: of so many questions to ask you. But first I
22:53
Speaker 1: have to go back to the Dodo bandit, which Wells
22:55
Speaker 1: told me about. Um, what was that you were in
22:58
Speaker 1: the house. Wasn't there somebody eating poop in the toilet?
23:01
Speaker 1: I never heard. I think the first time I heard
23:03
Speaker 1: about it was I would listen to one of Will's
23:05
Speaker 1: podcast and I heard him say something that no clue
23:07
Speaker 1: you guys are talking about right now if there was
23:08
Speaker 1: this guy in their house that would poop and not flush,
23:13
Speaker 1: and not only that, but he wouldn't put toilet paper
23:16
Speaker 1: in the toilet. You're talking to bachelor, Yeah, the bachelor
23:20
Speaker 1: in the Bachelor mansion. Okay me, if you're asking me,
23:24
Speaker 1: it wasn't you. We can tell Ashley's been thinking about
23:28
Speaker 1: this for a while. Like the first question to somebody
23:32
Speaker 1: was wiping their But yeah, like how gross is that it?
23:39
Speaker 1: But what we're talking about good girls and versus bad girls?
23:41
Speaker 1: You have a girlfriend, Chad, I don't know right now,
23:45
Speaker 1: that's kind of a yeah, we don't have to talk
23:48
Speaker 1: about Yeah we do, we sure, But I've I've sat
23:53
Speaker 1: in this podcast room very very quickly after some confusing
23:57
Speaker 1: stuff in my relationships, and I know how bad it
24:00
Speaker 1: sucks to be questioned on it. I have to talk
24:02
Speaker 1: about this stuff all the time. No, for sure. I
24:05
Speaker 1: mean it's it's cool, Like, um, we were dating, you know.
24:08
Speaker 1: I met this girl online everything, like she actually she's
24:12
Speaker 1: slid into my business emails and was like yeah. It
24:15
Speaker 1: was like how can I get some abs? And I
24:17
Speaker 1: was like, what up, girl? You don't want ads? Like
24:19
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Yeah? So we started talking and um,
24:23
Speaker 1: you know, we ended up meeting up finally like six
24:24
Speaker 1: months later out Newport Beach and start dating and everything.
24:28
Speaker 1: But then like she still don't understand the TV stuff.
24:30
Speaker 1: So like I was doing an interview the other night
24:32
Speaker 1: on Entertainment Tonight where you know, they're like, hey, are
24:34
Speaker 1: you in a relationship with someone right now? And like
24:37
Speaker 1: the show is airing, so I'm like, maybe maybe I'm not.
24:40
Speaker 1: And I roll over the next morning to a text
24:41
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, so you're not in a relationship, well
24:44
Speaker 1: you're single now, And I'm like she thinks I was
24:46
Speaker 1: gonna like go back and fight for and be like nah, baby,
24:48
Speaker 1: like we are dating, like, but I was just like
24:51
Speaker 1: I can't deal with this, Like if you're gonna like
24:53
Speaker 1: scrutiny scrutinize every single interview I do for like things
24:56
Speaker 1: that I have to do for like, you know, I
24:58
Speaker 1: can't like go ruin a show, you know what I mean. No, No,
25:00
Speaker 1: you're contractually obligated to say what you do, right, Yeah
25:03
Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, she didn't get that, and so
25:05
Speaker 1: I've kind of like taking a step back now to
25:07
Speaker 1: kind of be like, you know, your relationship doesn't pay
25:11
Speaker 1: my bills. So yeah, No, that's tough. That that is tough.
25:14
Speaker 1: I get that. I I mean I think it's actually
25:16
Speaker 1: I've talked about here before, is you come off of
25:18
Speaker 1: this this well you're in this world that is different now.
25:21
Speaker 1: It's not just the Bachelor for you. Now you're doing
25:23
Speaker 1: a ton of stuff outside of the Bachelor, um and everything,
25:26
Speaker 1: and you do kind of have to say things at times,
25:30
Speaker 1: uh that maybe aren't more politically correct. Yeah. Yeah, she's
25:35
Speaker 1: got to be vague. Vague the good word to say.
25:37
Speaker 1: You have to be vague all the time. I'm never vague,
25:39
Speaker 1: which is why I get in trouble. That's why she's
25:42
Speaker 1: great podcasting me because she says everything and I just
25:45
Speaker 1: get to listen and he, you know, balances me out
25:48
Speaker 1: because he says everything perfectly. Well I don't know about that,
25:53
Speaker 1: but somebody chaid, I've only got to to meet you
25:56
Speaker 1: a couple of times. Um, one all at bad Bachelor
26:00
Speaker 1: or Bachelor esque events. Um yeah, they've all been fantastic,
26:05
Speaker 1: not all fantastic. But the uh, the one question I
26:10
Speaker 1: have for you coming off of this week's episode of
26:12
Speaker 1: The Bachelor at is you you were a villain? Uh?
26:16
Speaker 1: And I think we can all admit that that's not
26:17
Speaker 1: hiding anything. You were known as the villain? Uh. Did
26:19
Speaker 1: you know during the season, like as you were actually
26:22
Speaker 1: living in those moments, that you would be the villain? No?
26:25
Speaker 1: I I mean I kept talking to the producers. I
26:27
Speaker 1: was like, if you guys air everything that's happening here,
26:29
Speaker 1: that like the whole country is gonna hate everyone here
26:32
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be the only person that makes any sense.
26:35
Speaker 1: And so they couldn't air like everything that I said
26:36
Speaker 1: that like made sense, because then they would be like, well,
26:39
Speaker 1: now everyone else looks really weird. Definitely a lot of
26:42
Speaker 1: times that I thought you were right on actually right,
26:44
Speaker 1: But the thing was like when I started like calling
26:46
Speaker 1: people out on stuff that made me bad, and then
26:48
Speaker 1: they didn't really know what to do. They couldn't like
26:50
Speaker 1: try and make me likable or they're like everyone else
26:52
Speaker 1: would just look really weird. So then they started running
26:55
Speaker 1: with that. Then every question they asked me was kind
26:56
Speaker 1: of geared towards me saying bad stuff about the other guys.
26:59
Speaker 1: And then it just them rolled from there, and the
27:02
Speaker 1: eventually I kind of was like, whatever, let's just do this.
27:04
Speaker 1: The accepted the role that yeah, yeah, you know, I
27:06
Speaker 1: mean after a while, you can't go back. I kept
27:08
Speaker 1: being like, I don't want to say mean things anymore,
27:10
Speaker 1: and they'd be like, so you hate him, right, And
27:11
Speaker 1: I'm like all right, yeah, So wa have you been
27:16
Speaker 1: watching this season? I've only saw the last episode. Do
27:20
Speaker 1: you think that people are trying to become the villain now?
27:22
Speaker 1: Like I think Lee is just to make a splash.
27:25
Speaker 1: It seems like it seems like there's like three or
27:27
Speaker 1: four dudes all kind of trying to pull the same maneuvers. Now,
27:30
Speaker 1: Like it's gotten really crazy. I feel like, but you
27:33
Speaker 1: went into it with no intention, no intention. But I mean, like,
27:36
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at everything I'm doing now,
27:37
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Imagine if I had let
27:39
Speaker 1: those guys like get me kicked off, like I'd have
27:40
Speaker 1: been like lu gee, Like I guess I'm a bad
27:42
Speaker 1: guy juju, like you know. I mean, I'm flying all
27:46
Speaker 1: over the world. I'm doing all this stuff. I'd be
27:47
Speaker 1: back in Oklahoma still trying to sell houses, you know,
27:50
Speaker 1: to like little old ladies, Like that's no fun I
27:53
Speaker 1: want to do. Now. You're doing single. You're doing Famously
27:55
Speaker 1: Single on E which is Sundays at ten o'clock. It's
27:58
Speaker 1: a second season. Josh Murray was on the first season,
28:00
Speaker 1: getting from him advice from him, not really. I mean
28:03
Speaker 1: I watched like two minutes. I never watched the shows
28:06
Speaker 1: before I go on, and I'm just like, put me
28:08
Speaker 1: in a house and tell me what to do. Like
28:10
Speaker 1: but um, I talked to him a little bit after everything,
28:13
Speaker 1: But I think for the most part I talked to
28:14
Speaker 1: like poly d and everything before. Okay, Yeah, was also
28:18
Speaker 1: on the first Yeah, so tell us about the premise
28:21
Speaker 1: of FAMAS Single. Basically, it's like you take a bunch
28:23
Speaker 1: of famous people or whatever that have been single for
28:26
Speaker 1: a long time, and they throw us into a house
28:28
Speaker 1: and try and figure out why we were single and
28:30
Speaker 1: see if we can get into a relationship. Give us,
28:32
Speaker 1: give us one reason why you're single. I was determined
28:35
Speaker 1: by the famous Um, that's a toughie, Okay, probably just
28:40
Speaker 1: the fact that I'm so perfect and I haven't accepted it.
28:42
Speaker 1: It's something I have to work on every day. I
28:44
Speaker 1: have to wake up and convince myself it's okay. But no, Um,
28:47
Speaker 1: I think my main real reason was that I was
28:49
Speaker 1: taking care of my mom when she was going through
28:51
Speaker 1: cancer for like seven eight years, and um, all throughout
28:54
Speaker 1: that time, I knew that getting into a relationship would
28:56
Speaker 1: actually pull me away from her. So I got in
28:58
Speaker 1: this like habit of like date for a couple of weeks,
29:00
Speaker 1: moved to the next girl. They did a couple of weeks,
29:01
Speaker 1: you know, never developing any real relationships. And now I've
29:04
Speaker 1: gotten to where, no matter how much I like a girl,
29:06
Speaker 1: I can just like stop talking to her and move
29:08
Speaker 1: on and go to the next one and not really
29:10
Speaker 1: like you know, have heartbreak or anything. So that sounds
29:13
Speaker 1: like a real problem. Well it's now it's about like
29:15
Speaker 1: finding a girl to be able to like. Okay, I'm
29:16
Speaker 1: just gonna make it work with this person. I'm not
29:18
Speaker 1: going to choose to just like move on like I
29:20
Speaker 1: always do. I mean, I guess, I mean that's some
29:24
Speaker 1: great self perspective and self self awareness and that's not
29:28
Speaker 1: just that hasn't just came from you thinking, you know
29:31
Speaker 1: at night or meditating on that. This came from these shows, right,
29:33
Speaker 1: I mean, I know for me, I've talked about The
29:35
Speaker 1: Bachelor and Bachelor at um have had exposed a lot
29:39
Speaker 1: of my weaknesses, especially with relationships and how I cared
29:42
Speaker 1: for my partners or for the people I was trying
29:44
Speaker 1: to invest my life into. Um. Has this, I mean,
29:47
Speaker 1: are you seeing all of this kind of came from
29:48
Speaker 1: these shows? You know? And I knew the most. I
29:51
Speaker 1: think I had the general gist of why I did
29:53
Speaker 1: what I did for a while. Um, and it almost
29:56
Speaker 1: kind of convinced me, like, well, it's okay to just
29:58
Speaker 1: keep popping from girl to girl because I know that.
30:00
Speaker 1: I don't know whether I convinced myself that it's okay
30:02
Speaker 1: or convinced myself to do it, but like at the
30:05
Speaker 1: end of the day, the show's helped me kind of
30:07
Speaker 1: understand deeper of why, you know what I mean, Whereas
30:11
Speaker 1: I never really kind of like dug into it. But um,
30:15
Speaker 1: but I mean I always kind of, you know, before
30:16
Speaker 1: the shows, knew what I was doing. Yeah, but it's
30:19
Speaker 1: like you just you just start digging into it more
30:20
Speaker 1: emotionally because you get asked questions, so many questions in
30:23
Speaker 1: these little interviews you know about why you're doing what
30:25
Speaker 1: you're doing, and you just start talking and you start realizing,
30:28
Speaker 1: you know, as you're talking, why, well, it's really in
30:31
Speaker 1: your head. Definitely. I mean, I think that's my advice
30:33
Speaker 1: to anybody that goes back on these shows is you know,
30:36
Speaker 1: the whole purpose of the Bachelor Bachelor is for the
30:39
Speaker 1: audience and the people involved to kind of fall in
30:41
Speaker 1: love with each other. You know, you get to know
30:42
Speaker 1: the people better. And if you're not vulnerable, if you
30:44
Speaker 1: aren't open, uh, then you're not only going to be
30:47
Speaker 1: a terrible person to watch on TV or especially on
30:49
Speaker 1: these dating shows, because nobody's ever going to get to
30:51
Speaker 1: know you, but the person that is pursuing you is
30:53
Speaker 1: not gonna get to know you. And I think these
30:55
Speaker 1: shows have been a great um event in my life
30:58
Speaker 1: because I've been able to talk about things I've said
31:00
Speaker 1: in these interviews with producers for hours, just discussing why
31:04
Speaker 1: in the heck I'm so down on myself, or why
31:05
Speaker 1: in the heck I don't you haven't fallen in love
31:07
Speaker 1: before these things, and you do, you start to see
31:10
Speaker 1: things about yourself that you've never seen before. And Iggy
31:12
Speaker 1: talks about that when he gets eliminated in the episode
31:15
Speaker 1: this week, and it really resonated with me because he said,
31:19
Speaker 1: I learned more about myself in four weeks than I
31:22
Speaker 1: have in the past thirty years. And he said, and
31:24
Speaker 1: I finally am learning to accept myself or something like that,
31:28
Speaker 1: and I was like, wow. You know, I haven't been
31:31
Speaker 1: a fan of him the entire time, but he's definitely
31:33
Speaker 1: gotten out of He's definitely gotten the right thing out
31:36
Speaker 1: of this experience. This is a side of chat that
31:38
Speaker 1: we don't get to see very often. It is a
31:40
Speaker 1: side that you're actually admitting faults or in being vulnerable.
31:44
Speaker 1: At least I haven't seen it as somebody's watching on
31:46
Speaker 1: these shows and wasn't actually on a show with you.
31:48
Speaker 1: Everybody's always trying to get me kicked off. I'm always
31:52
Speaker 1: just like, stop, like, stop trying to make me look
31:54
Speaker 1: aggressive up probably probably that everyone's like, are you actually
32:01
Speaker 1: like super violent crazy? I'm like, well, don't try and
32:04
Speaker 1: get me kicked off a TV show or steal my
32:05
Speaker 1: wallet or something. And you know, no, like your your
32:09
Speaker 1: social media does point to that. Like, if I was
32:11
Speaker 1: just through social media, I would say, this guy is
32:14
Speaker 1: exactly who I wanted. No, do you see him with
32:17
Speaker 1: his doggie Pumpkin? Actually, just because he's a dog doesn't
32:20
Speaker 1: mean he's a great guys. Dog. If you treat a
32:25
Speaker 1: woman like you treat your dog, she's gonna be Yeah. Yeah,
32:27
Speaker 1: for sure, my my social media when all the first
32:33
Speaker 1: let's just meditate on what that that line? Can we
32:36
Speaker 1: can we get that printed off somewhere. If you treat
32:38
Speaker 1: a woman like you treat your dogs, he buys her
32:40
Speaker 1: new bathing suits. Yeah, she's got some qualities actually fashion fashion.
32:47
Speaker 1: But Chad, we can't get enough. I mean honestly, as
32:50
Speaker 1: she was so excited for you to be in the
32:51
Speaker 1: studio day, she claims you're a great guy. From just
32:55
Speaker 1: my conversation with you today, I'd say, hey, I got
32:57
Speaker 1: a lot to learn about Chad, a lot to learn
32:59
Speaker 1: about Chat. And if I to learn more about Chat,
33:01
Speaker 1: I gotta check in to the Famously Single television show
33:04
Speaker 1: Sundays at ten on E Correct. Correct, you're on there.
33:08
Speaker 1: So let's see if Chad can find love on Famously Single.
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Speaker 1: attend movies. Okay, so I've been using it. How is
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Speaker 1: it different than all the other movie apps out there? Well,
33:30
Speaker 1: i'll tell you here, Ashley. Um. What you do is
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Speaker 1: you you go into the app. You can search by
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Speaker 1: the closest movie theater year round. So I'm an l
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Speaker 1: A a a lot, right, I don't know l A at all,
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Speaker 1: even though I'm here all the time. So if there's
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35:03
Speaker 1: so let's continue on this Bachelor episode Rundown. We just
35:07
Speaker 1: have a few more points to touch on. It was
35:08
Speaker 1: a crazy episode. One thing I want to talk to
35:11
Speaker 1: you about is I felt like Rachel's first one on
35:15
Speaker 1: one day of this of this week was awkward. I
35:18
Speaker 1: felt like this guy was super into it, right, I
35:20
Speaker 1: think Jack, Yeah, he didn't know Jack before this episode. Yeah,
35:24
Speaker 1: he fell in love quickly, um, which will come back
35:27
Speaker 1: to bite him as we've seen. Um. So he falls
35:29
Speaker 1: in love with Rachel or whatever he thinks he's feeling
35:33
Speaker 1: for Rachel. Um. And then he gets let go, which
35:37
Speaker 1: which I'm happy for him because I hope he gets
35:39
Speaker 1: a dose of reality and says, hey, you just met
35:42
Speaker 1: this girl. Do you know what this guy looks like?
35:44
Speaker 1: When he was talking, it was so eerie. He was
35:46
Speaker 1: hard to watch. It's another one of those hard to
35:48
Speaker 1: watch moments, which is what I do for all The Bachelor.
35:50
Speaker 1: It's like not watch it and just like kind of
35:52
Speaker 1: like peek through my fingers every once in a while. Wait,
35:55
Speaker 1: we have to talk about the kiss for a second. Okay,
35:56
Speaker 1: I was gonna talk. I was gonna talk about how
35:58
Speaker 1: like he always had his chinned down and he like
36:01
Speaker 1: glares up, he like puts his eyeballs. Oh you know
36:05
Speaker 1: I was from day Okay, so he's very weird when
36:07
Speaker 1: he talks. But the kiss was hysterical because she goes,
36:12
Speaker 1: you're gonna get sick. I'm contagious and that is the
36:17
Speaker 1: ultimate go to line when you don't want to kiss
36:20
Speaker 1: someone and they go in for it. And here's my
36:22
Speaker 1: advice to Rachel as the bachelor. Bachelor at the worst
36:25
Speaker 1: thing you can possibly tell one of the contestants is
36:27
Speaker 1: I'm contagious, because meaning like, hey, I've also kissed somebody
36:32
Speaker 1: like probably right before you, probably, And this whole house
36:35
Speaker 1: is about to get sick real quick. Did you ever
36:38
Speaker 1: use the sick card? No, because I was just trying
36:41
Speaker 1: to play it cool the whole time. Like for me
36:43
Speaker 1: to admit any faults during my season the Batchel would
36:45
Speaker 1: have been a huge step for me, Like I was
36:47
Speaker 1: just trying to trick all these people to think I
36:49
Speaker 1: was like the part time. Yes, maybe I tried really
36:53
Speaker 1: hard to be cool. Let's just say that. So I
36:55
Speaker 1: don't know if ever anybody got sick on my season,
36:58
Speaker 1: but I do know, and I can't wait to talk
37:01
Speaker 1: to beck about this. This week. Is I was in
37:03
Speaker 1: Mexico City and I was hiding around the corner because
37:06
Speaker 1: the women were staying in this room and they all
37:10
Speaker 1: or a lot of them, had just gotten the stomach
37:12
Speaker 1: flu and they're all talking about it in the hallway,
37:15
Speaker 1: and so I could hear a couple of the women
37:17
Speaker 1: from my season talking about what was going on with
37:19
Speaker 1: their stomachs, and they had no clue I was there.
37:22
Speaker 1: So I cannot wait to talk to her about that.
37:24
Speaker 1: But so so I don't know if that was from me.
37:27
Speaker 1: Such a good story, it's going to be such a
37:29
Speaker 1: good story. There's a lot of stomach flu that happened
37:30
Speaker 1: on my season, hopefully not just because of me, right,
37:34
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean we're at the plate place in
37:36
Speaker 1: time in the Bachelor at that we're starting to get
37:38
Speaker 1: to know these guys better. We're starting to find out
37:40
Speaker 1: who we like and not like we're starting to see
37:41
Speaker 1: the villain, and and we're starting to see how these
37:44
Speaker 1: kind of storylines to play out. Were I would say
37:46
Speaker 1: we're close to halfway. Um, Rachel's gonna start really starting
37:50
Speaker 1: to have to decide who she cares about and who
37:52
Speaker 1: she doesn't. And then also there is a level of
37:55
Speaker 1: of the show where she has to be strategic in
37:57
Speaker 1: the sense of she if there's if she sees somebody
37:59
Speaker 1: there that she is not fully committed to, and and
38:02
Speaker 1: and but they're they have a great heart, and they
38:04
Speaker 1: could get hurt easily. Maybe she just to decide do
38:06
Speaker 1: I let them go early or late? Do I like
38:08
Speaker 1: to keep them around for a little long because they're
38:09
Speaker 1: just really good to have around. Um, And I think
38:12
Speaker 1: about this time, she's really gonna start seeing who, if anyone,
38:16
Speaker 1: she could be with. Right, did you ever have to
38:18
Speaker 1: dump people on your one on ones? Because I feel
38:22
Speaker 1: like Rachel, I don't know, I don't remember, might be
38:25
Speaker 1: a fan of that. Yeah, she's doing it, and I
38:28
Speaker 1: kind of really like that because I feel like if
38:31
Speaker 1: you get the one on one, you normally feel like
38:33
Speaker 1: you're gonna stick around that week. But that is definitely
38:35
Speaker 1: not the case with Rachel. Yeah. No, she's confident, and
38:38
Speaker 1: I think Rachel's gonna make the decision that she feels
38:40
Speaker 1: like her best and she's going to kind of follow
38:42
Speaker 1: her heart, maybe a little quicker than I would. Um,
38:44
Speaker 1: but no, I think most of my one on ones
38:46
Speaker 1: really well. Um, I always I look back. I mean,
38:50
Speaker 1: maybe I'm missing something, but I've always I think most
38:52
Speaker 1: of my goodbyes happened either midweek because of something crazy
38:56
Speaker 1: or at a roast ceremony. It's it's a question that
38:59
Speaker 1: has kind of came up in my life A lot
39:00
Speaker 1: here recently, right, as I've now been entered into single
39:04
Speaker 1: life again. Um, I guess I've opened myself up to
39:07
Speaker 1: two more girl friend relationships, like having friends at our house. Yeah,
39:12
Speaker 1: gop house. Let's say that. Um. One of them just
39:15
Speaker 1: happens to be my ex girlfriend from college. Um. And
39:19
Speaker 1: here's a crazy story behind this, right. So one of
39:21
Speaker 1: my best friends, who is the founder of Humanity and
39:24
Speaker 1: Hope United, which is the nonprofit that I support, and
39:27
Speaker 1: his wife live in Austin, Texas and my ex girlfriend
39:29
Speaker 1: from college lives in Austin, Texas. And they've stayed friends
39:32
Speaker 1: the whole time. There's some of the best friends, right.
39:34
Speaker 1: And so this last week I was actually in Austin
39:37
Speaker 1: for a meeting for the coffee company that I'm starting
39:40
Speaker 1: with my buddy, and we all decided to go go
39:43
Speaker 1: out have fun. It was their three year old's birthday
39:46
Speaker 1: and so they're kind of celebrating three years of being
39:48
Speaker 1: parents and we were all in town. Well, my ex
39:50
Speaker 1: girlfriend was there, and we were seeing in town, just
39:53
Speaker 1: hanging out, just you know, with everybody. Well, I think
39:57
Speaker 1: a couple of trolls on the internet started to say, oh,
39:59
Speaker 1: we saw a video have been and his ex girlfriend
40:02
Speaker 1: together and oh they must be dating again. They must
40:05
Speaker 1: be falling back in love. He never liked Lauren. Oh
40:08
Speaker 1: my gosh, So I mean and and all that is,
40:11
Speaker 1: I guess, uh laughable because of course I did. And
40:15
Speaker 1: of course like, um, you know, we are just friends.
40:19
Speaker 1: But Ben, but would you ever think about going back? Yeah,
40:22
Speaker 1: but it is it is crazy to think of like
40:24
Speaker 1: in our society, we can't be friends with our exes.
40:26
Speaker 1: And actually, I think you know what I get all
40:30
Speaker 1: the time. You know, Jared and I can't post ever
40:31
Speaker 1: a picture. You can't post a picture because we definitely
40:34
Speaker 1: are dating and we're definitely gonna get married one day,
40:36
Speaker 1: even if one of us doesn't see it like you guys,
40:39
Speaker 1: I know as a fact, says commenters that we will
40:42
Speaker 1: definitely get married one day. Well, I hope so. Well.
40:46
Speaker 1: So I understand this completely. And it took me a
40:49
Speaker 1: long time to get to the point where I could
40:52
Speaker 1: just be friends with Jared and uh, yeah, I mean
40:56
Speaker 1: you can be friends with your ex. I think there's
40:58
Speaker 1: always gonna be some sort of lingering feeling. Um, if
41:01
Speaker 1: it's not always, I think it comes in cycles. Definitely. Yeah,
41:04
Speaker 1: let's see if Gabby in Los Angeles has any opinion
41:07
Speaker 1: on this, Gabby, do you think you can be friends
41:09
Speaker 1: with your ex? I absolutely think that that's a thing
41:15
Speaker 1: that you can do. Thank you so much. Are you
41:18
Speaker 1: ordering food? Are you ordering food right now? That's perfect?
41:24
Speaker 1: What are you eating? Okay? Perfect? So okay? As you
41:29
Speaker 1: sit there and enjoy your ramen um and hundreds of
41:33
Speaker 1: thousands of people are listening to you on a podcast
41:35
Speaker 1: right now, eat your ramen um. Can't you do believe
41:38
Speaker 1: you be friends with your ex? Because that's what I believe.
41:40
Speaker 1: I think, not all, not every time. Right, You're gonna
41:43
Speaker 1: have exes that come into your life on a situation basis, Yeah, definitely,
41:47
Speaker 1: But it's not a bad thing, right. I mean, if
41:49
Speaker 1: if you've moved on and you they know you better
41:51
Speaker 1: than a lot of people in the world know you,
41:53
Speaker 1: and you still like each other, like you're still like
41:54
Speaker 1: you're pretty cool person, it seems like you should be friends. Absolutely.
41:58
Speaker 1: I completely agree with that Statemam. And me and my
42:00
Speaker 1: boyfriend we broke up six months ago, and because we
42:04
Speaker 1: like moved separate places and we FaceTime all the time.
42:07
Speaker 1: He talks to me when I'm like I live in
42:09
Speaker 1: a new city and I'm freaking out, and you know
42:12
Speaker 1: it's it's really really helpful to have someone there for
42:14
Speaker 1: you who knows you. Bet definitely. Yeah. Well I appreciate
42:17
Speaker 1: that perspective cause I agree with you, but we have
42:19
Speaker 1: buddy somebody on the line that disagrees with you. Oh yeah,
42:24
Speaker 1: Brett Collorado Springs, Hello, Hi Brett, Hi, Hi, how you doing.
42:30
Speaker 1: Can you be friends with your exs? Brett? Absolutely not.
42:34
Speaker 1: I kind of agree with you. If I had to
42:36
Speaker 1: choose one or the other, I would go with this team.
42:39
Speaker 1: My mom was actually talking to me about this this week.
42:41
Speaker 1: It's totally old school, but back in the day, on
42:44
Speaker 1: our parents generation, there's no way that you stayed friends
42:47
Speaker 1: with your acts. This is such a millennial thing. Brett
42:50
Speaker 1: explain why. Well, it was about maybe seven years ago.
42:57
Speaker 1: Seven I had seven years ago. Yeah, I had just
43:00
Speaker 1: gotten engaged. Oh, you can't be friends of the next fiancee.
43:04
Speaker 1: Well no, actually, so I had an ex boyfriend from
43:06
Speaker 1: a few years further from that who reached out to me.
43:11
Speaker 1: I wanted to, you know, build up a friendship again,
43:14
Speaker 1: and you know I was open to it. If you want, say,
43:16
Speaker 1: last like the military, I really needed so great a
43:19
Speaker 1: friend and it didn't really work out. Um drunk, I
43:25
Speaker 1: don't know. We had like a hours called about how
43:30
Speaker 1: much we loved each other. Oh, it was just a
43:32
Speaker 1: phone call. I mean, it's still cheating, but it really was.
43:37
Speaker 1: I mean I felt like the worst person in the world.
43:40
Speaker 1: So I you know, I told my fiancee. You know,
43:43
Speaker 1: he was obviously up to it, but you know, I
43:47
Speaker 1: cut off. I cut that person out of my life
43:49
Speaker 1: and I'm still married to this day. That okay, okay,
43:53
Speaker 1: that let me. Yeah, that was a good ending to
43:55
Speaker 1: a story that I was, like I was, I was
43:58
Speaker 1: trying to follow, but I was feeling for you, us,
44:00
Speaker 1: feeling for your fiance I'm feeling for this third party.
44:02
Speaker 1: But here, okay, so let's break this down together. Um,
44:07
Speaker 1: you were lonely, you you were desiring somebody. Now that
44:10
Speaker 1: might be a situation I think where you have to
44:12
Speaker 1: put a boundary, and I don't think being a friend
44:14
Speaker 1: with your ex in this situation is is a good choice,
44:17
Speaker 1: which you found out. You have to set boundaries if
44:19
Speaker 1: you're in a committed relationship, but if you're not, then
44:22
Speaker 1: you could have been friends. And I'm not talking anything romantic, right,
44:26
Speaker 1: So like I'm just saying you're just friends, like you
44:28
Speaker 1: don't talk to each other at the time, but when
44:30
Speaker 1: you see each other it's great to catch up. You
44:32
Speaker 1: can you can be around a bunch of people at once. Um,
44:36
Speaker 1: I think that's okay. Would you agree with that? I
44:38
Speaker 1: agree with that, But I mean if you're going to
44:40
Speaker 1: movies with them or you know, going out to eat,
44:43
Speaker 1: then you're crossing some lines. And I think if you
44:46
Speaker 1: can keep the boundary there with your just relationship, go
44:49
Speaker 1: for it. But if you think you'd be tempted in
44:51
Speaker 1: the slightest backup them out. I would have to say
44:55
Speaker 1: that if you've got to be friends with your ex
44:56
Speaker 1: and you're not in a relationship, and that's fine, But
44:58
Speaker 1: if you are in a relationship, then it's not that cool.
45:01
Speaker 1: Like I don't think you were hanging out with your
45:03
Speaker 1: ex girlfriend if you're still at Lauren. No, no, no,
45:05
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I know. I agree with you completely on
45:07
Speaker 1: that front. You have to set those boundaries in life,
45:09
Speaker 1: like what Amy? Okay, Amy, the producer chimes in to disagree.
45:15
Speaker 1: That's when you should be friends with your ex is
45:18
Speaker 1: and anybody you want to. If you're you're engaged to somebody,
45:21
Speaker 1: you're committed to them. There's nothing wrong with being friends
45:24
Speaker 1: with men or an ex. I don't know. I would
45:27
Speaker 1: always feel like I just gonna think you're just gonna
45:29
Speaker 1: get engaged and just cut off everybody so you get engaged.
45:32
Speaker 1: No more Wells, no more Jared, all these friends you've had,
45:34
Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. I mean, I think i'd have to disagree there.
45:40
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't. I didn't cut out all of
45:43
Speaker 1: my friends, but you know I did other exes I
45:46
Speaker 1: did cut out. Um. I thought the relationship hathetics. I
45:51
Speaker 1: could keep it appropriate, and it turned out I couldn't.
45:56
Speaker 1: That's what it comes down to is if you can't
45:58
Speaker 1: be appropriate, you shouldn't be friends with that. If you
46:01
Speaker 1: can be great, I can't be appropriate. That's the bottom
46:06
Speaker 1: line here, and that's actually for you. She knows herself
46:09
Speaker 1: better than anybody else. Actually cannot be appropriate. Brett. Thank
46:13
Speaker 1: you for calling in. Um, congratulations on still being married.
46:18
Speaker 1: That's a big deal. We should celebrate that. Ben. Do
46:20
Speaker 1: you ever think that you could be friends with Lauren?
46:22
Speaker 1: Definitely close friends? I mean, right now, that's so hard
46:27
Speaker 1: for me to say, because like just being friends with
46:29
Speaker 1: her seems so weird, Like you know, I think there's
46:32
Speaker 1: still that like emotional connection that I haven't released. I
46:36
Speaker 1: don't know if I ever release it. But if I
46:38
Speaker 1: can give up kind of the um that emotional attachment,
46:41
Speaker 1: and then yeah, we could just be friends. We could
46:43
Speaker 1: catch up, we could I don't know, hang out in groups.
46:46
Speaker 1: But right now that, right now, that just seems so
46:48
Speaker 1: odd to me that I'm even putting her in a
46:50
Speaker 1: friend category that makes sense. Points like is there really
46:54
Speaker 1: a point of being friends with your ex? Because have
46:57
Speaker 1: enough friends in your life? They're good people, And I'd say, yeah,
47:00
Speaker 1: that's hard, that's I don't know if I'm like if
47:03
Speaker 1: I need a thousand more friends. But when you meet
47:06
Speaker 1: somebody that is special and that you want to share
47:09
Speaker 1: life with and in terms of dating, then afterwards it's
47:13
Speaker 1: great to still share life with them at some level,
47:15
Speaker 1: like not every time, but sometimes so I hope so.
47:18
Speaker 1: But no, right now I would consider Lauren somebody that
47:20
Speaker 1: I just respect a lot, I care about a lot,
47:22
Speaker 1: But putting her in that friend category still seems weird
47:24
Speaker 1: to me. Um or seems hard. I guess that's what
47:28
Speaker 1: with me and Jared, People like still always say, what's
47:31
Speaker 1: up with that? How do you be friends with somebody
47:33
Speaker 1: you cried over so many times on TV. But basically
47:36
Speaker 1: we both made a decision that we couldn't we didn't
47:39
Speaker 1: want to be without each other. Yeah, I mean, relationships
47:41
Speaker 1: are difficult, if it's romantic, if it's friendships, if it's
47:44
Speaker 1: family romantics. Relationships are hard and it takes work and commitment.
47:48
Speaker 1: And I think maybe, um, just to kind of close
47:50
Speaker 1: off this topic, is you could be friends with somebody
47:53
Speaker 1: that you've been in a relationship with because you've already
47:54
Speaker 1: put the work in to show them that you are loyal,
47:57
Speaker 1: hopefully committed and worthy to be at least worthy to
48:01
Speaker 1: be trusted. And um, so I don't know. Yeah, I
48:03
Speaker 1: mean I hope that one day Lauren I can be
48:05
Speaker 1: friends and and but we'll see. What do you have
48:08
Speaker 1: to say the haters out there who told you that
48:12
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to be friends with your X and
48:14
Speaker 1: they saw you out this weekend with her, Well, I
48:16
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