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- 0:00In this lessons episode, examine how intentional action transforms personal growth and career progression,
- 0:05discover-wise shifting from passive ambition to active intention creates momentum,
- 0:09understand how uncovering core values, strengthens authentic leadership,
- 0:13and explore how modulating confidence and choosing aligned workplace cultures
- 0:17empower long-term advancement.
- 0:26Why that particular word for the title?
- 0:29What does intention mean to somebody? Because that's what I've never heard that word before.
- 0:32I've made it up. I made it up. I was wondering. I'm like, I don't think I've ever used that
- 0:40in the sentence before. But I wanted to be in the dictionary. I wanted to be the word of the year
- 0:45next year. No, it's good. So it's like it's like the act of doing something with intention.
- 0:51Exactly. And that's exactly how I was trying to find the right word. And I looked in the dictionary,
- 0:56looked in the thesaurus. I googled for it, and I couldn't find exactly the right word. So,
- 1:02I made it up. I just made it up because that's what you say. What you say is exactly what I wanted
- 1:07to do, which was to take a noun, which is a very perfectly good noun. And intention is something
- 1:13we talk about a lot these days. But I wanted to exemplify the fact that I intention is great,
- 1:20but unless you're doing it, it doesn't matter. And it's all about what you're actually doing. And I
- 1:25also differentiate between ambition and intention in that regard. Because to me, ambition is I hope
- 1:31I wish I want. I've got a dream about it. Intention and intentioning is I, I will. I am. I'm doing it.
- 1:40I see myself having already done it. I know it will happen. So it's a qualitative kind of
- 1:46difference. And I feel that that is a linchpin. That is an absolute linchpin for helping women get
- 1:53to parity in leadership because they have to have that belief for themselves and the courage to act
- 1:59on it. I love that. Okay, so let's break down. You said there's a few like very tactical takeaways in
- 2:07the book. So there's nine tools, but we don't have to go through nine. Obviously, that's why you
- 2:13would go get the book. But pick a couple. Pick like one or two things that if somebody is, you know,
- 2:18they're sitting in a career right now. And they, they want to move their career. They want to get
- 2:23a promotion. They want to do something more or do something and move up. I don't know what that
- 2:28move up looks like. And maybe you can describe what they should be looking for. Should it be another
- 2:32company? Should it be a tip to negotiate? Should it be finding a mentor or a sponsor thing your own
- 2:36company? What's the actionable thing that somebody could do? I'm going to start with the first one
- 2:42because I believe it is the bedrock and it is uncover yourself. And by that, I mean know who you are,
- 2:50get in touch with what your values are. I believe that the greatest leaders and the most effective
- 2:54leaders are very clear about who they are and what they believe, what values they will stand on.
- 3:03And they know themselves and they show themselves to others. But you have to know yourself first
- 3:09before you can show yourself to others authentically. So that is the first tool. And you know,
- 3:15both men and women say they cover themselves in the workplace because they're trying to fit in.
- 3:22Women more than men and both men and women of color more than white women because the culture was
- 3:29built by white men for white men who had women and people of color at home at the time,
- 3:34250 years ago, doing the kind of taking care of their lives. And so the world has changed.
- 3:40The world has changed. The families are different. They're usually, if they're two partners,
- 3:46they're usually two breadwinners. And if there's one person, you know, that breadwinner has to cover
- 3:52everything. So it's very different. It's very different and not functional anymore. And
- 3:59and so there's there is this need to uncover ourselves in a particularly in a society that is
- 4:07increasingly diverse. And we need to use that diversity as a strength, not as a divider,
- 4:14which is that we could do a whole program on, but I'll move on. I will move on.
- 4:19One, I'm going to take one more here. And then you can ask me some other questions about them,
- 4:24one that is counterintuitive. So I have three, three of these tools are what I call your self-definitional
- 4:31tools. In other words, how you are introspective. Three of them are counterintuitive. Very often,
- 4:37their things your mother told you not to do, but you should, if you want to be a great leader.
- 4:41And the third bucket of these tools is the change leadership tools. So big systems change,
- 4:49how to make big systems change. So a counterintuitive tool that is I think super important for women
- 4:57is modulate confidence. There is a whole industry out there making tons of money trying to show
- 5:06women how to become confident. Confidence, however, is not something you can just learn. You get
- 5:14confident by doing things, by practicing, by actually growing up your sleeves,
- 5:21and doing the thing that scares you. And that's how you get confidence. You can't inject confidence
- 5:27into your veins. It really takes doing. And frankly, the reason I say modulate confidence
- 5:35is that if you're totally confident, why do you have any reason to learn something new? If you're
- 5:40totally confident, what's the bur under your saddle that helps you to want to learn new things,
- 5:48to try new things, to do better, to ascend to a higher level of a position. So we need to learn
- 5:54to do things long before we're confident. We need to learn to do things. Maybe as Jonathan Kennedy
- 6:00said, we go to the moon, not because it's easy, but because it's hard. You know, we do those things
- 6:07because they're hard because that's where the growth is. That's where the growth is. That's what
- 6:12really teaches us how to be bigger and smarter and greater and build bigger businesses or
- 6:20run for Congress or whatever it is that we might want to do. So those are a couple of them.
- 6:26And when you say you want to say these are things that yes, there are things that everybody should
- 6:31really try and internalize. But if you are, if you want to champion some of these things,
- 6:41do you think that you should try and champion them in the organization you're already in,
- 6:45or is this something that maybe the organization values has to align with your own personal values
- 6:50to really get the best effect? Because you're going to come up against some people that are
- 6:55not with it, not in line, like super bigoted, like old school, and that's a block or two.
- 7:01It can't just be one-sided because it's never going to happen if you're a media boss,
- 7:06it's just an absolute asshole, right? It's not going to happen. So what do you suggest people
- 7:12look for, another sort of like a practical thing? If somebody's trying to find an organization that
- 7:16will help enable these things, what do you look for? Is there a process for like interviewing the
- 7:23interviewer? Is it finding the organization that I don't know has some sort of, some sort of
- 7:30person or cultural or something in place that can, you look to and like this is an organization
- 7:36is going to help support my growth because I know there's a lot of organizations that may not,
- 7:40or there's a lot of people with an organization that may not, and I want to keep people away from
- 7:44those and give them the best possible chance of succeeding in their careers, right? So how do you
- 7:49find that? Right, the first step again is to know yourself and decide what is that important to you
- 7:56because you're probably not going to ever get everything you want in, if you're working in an
- 8:02organization, you will make some compromises along the way, most likely. Actually in any situation,
- 8:08if it's your own business, it doesn't matter what it is, you'll probably make some compromises along
- 8:12the way, but you need to know what is it you care so much about that you will walk away rather than
- 8:19violate that. I have one of the power tools in my previous book, Nox Kisses, is called Where the
- 8:26Shirt, and what that means is, what do you believe so strongly you'd put it on your shirt and let
- 8:33other people see it? That you hold that belief so, so, you know, so strongly. I have, this is a
- 8:41shirt somebody gave me, actually, I saw, I saw, yeah, I know, yeah, and I'm wearing that shirt today,
- 8:46that's my shirt for today, but so, so you have to first of all figure that out and your question is
- 8:53a good one for people to ask at different stages of their careers because when you're just starting
- 8:59out, you have more of the luxury to research organizations and zero in on, okay, this is where I
- 9:08feel like it's a fit for me. I know there's a young woman who was in one of my courses a few years
- 9:15ago and I just noticed on LinkedIn that she had taken a new job and when I read her logic for
- 9:23taking this new job, it was all about, you know, I've had some great jobs before and I've learned a
- 9:29lot, but I wanted to go with this particular company because they put together my core value
- 9:36of belief in the power of education with making it more democratized for, you know, available
- 9:43to people. So, you know, this is like consciously, she was intentioning that she would be able to
- 9:49work in a culture that a set of values, like a company that had the same value set that she had.
- 9:58That's, you can research that. I mean, things are much more transparent now and I, I think they're
- 10:04probably, it's not true of every company. I mean, that's true. But increasingly, companies are
- 10:11having to be more transparent about what their values are and what their mission is. I mean,
- 10:17their mission may be to make money, but how did they do it and how are they serving the world when
- 10:22they make money? They're telling you that on their websites. Those are questions you can ask
- 10:27in interviews. You can, it's perfectly legitimate to ask those questions and I'll tell you
- 10:32as somebody who has hired a lot of people over the years, I appreciate it when people have done
- 10:37their research and they know what matters to them and they ask me those questions. No, but what I
- 10:44was going to say is I just want people to feel comfortable like asking these questions because
- 10:47that's how you really set yourself up for success, right? You want to, you want to make sure you know
- 10:52what you're stepping into. Right. Exactly. Yeah. And I think, I think, you know, as you grow in your
- 11:00career, you have more, even more opportunity to be very straightforward and discerning. It may take
- 11:08you longer to get a job, as for sure, but it's worth taking that time and making sure that you feel
- 11:15it's a culture that you will thrive in and that you can contribute. Thanks for tuning in. If you found
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