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Speaker 1: What's going on everybody? You're listening to this episode of
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Speaker 1: coming your way here on Opposition Territory. But we're gonna
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Speaker 1: be getting into this week's matchup Philadelphia Eagles against the
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Speaker 1: New York Giants. What's this New York Giants team going
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Speaker 1: to look like? Two and four on the season at
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Speaker 1: this point, there's a lot of issues going on with
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Speaker 1: this Giants team on offense. The defense however, looking pretty good.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna be getting into it during our discussion and
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Speaker 1: first time guest. Let's get right to it. Joining us
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Speaker 2: How you doing, buddy, I am doing well.
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Speaker 1: How you doing?
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Speaker 2: And thanks for having me on.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great. It's great to have you on for
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Speaker 1: the first time here. Look, I it's such an interesting
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Speaker 1: NFL season. It's a very interesting NFC East at this point,
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Speaker 1: and I mean to get into this upcoming matchup Eagles
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Speaker 1: and Giants. Look, at this point the season, the Giants
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Speaker 1: are two and four, They're fourth in the NFC division.
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Speaker 1: I mean in terms of passing and rushing. You know,
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Speaker 1: they've been they've been a middle of the road type
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Speaker 1: of team. Yes, bottom of the division, but still I
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Speaker 1: still think this division is wide open. You know, we're
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Speaker 1: heading into week seven here, anything I think can happen,
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Speaker 1: especially in the NFC, you know, where we really don't
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Speaker 1: have too too many dominant teams. So in terms of
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Speaker 1: the Giants defense, though, we are seeing some really really
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Speaker 1: good stuff from them. So I'm wondering, you know, to
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Speaker 1: give our listeners here at Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show
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Speaker 1: a little bit and more insight into the Giants. How
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Speaker 1: would you sum up what you have seen from this
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Speaker 1: team so far this season after six weeks.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that after six weeks. The Giants
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Speaker 2: are a tough, gritty team. You know, that's kind of
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Speaker 2: been their hallmark under Brian Davil, Like they generally don't
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Speaker 2: do too much to hurt themselves. They don't do too
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Speaker 2: much that's particularly exciting. You know, they're not gonna be
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Speaker 2: out there slinging the ball around the yard, generating big plays,
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Speaker 2: you know, putting up video game numbers right far from that,
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Speaker 2: but they are not going to not going to shoot themselves.
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Speaker 2: They're going to hang around and compete all game long.
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Speaker 2: You know, we saw that last week. You know, when
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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you other punter goes down, their
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Speaker 2: kicker has been down, gram Geno's on the injured reserve,
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Speaker 2: and so Brian Dable just has them go for fourth
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Speaker 2: down after fourth down after fourth down. And it didn't
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Speaker 2: work the first time, and it didn't work the last time,
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Speaker 2: but in between, it kept the offense on the field
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Speaker 2: and it kept the players engaged. Yeah, which is that
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Speaker 2: has been really huge for him because the Giant every
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Speaker 2: team has adversity. Every team has setbacks. Every team has
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Speaker 2: problems they have to overcome, absolutely, and they this team
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Speaker 2: has just kept fighting. They haven't done a whole lot
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Speaker 2: of winning, but they've kept fighting.
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Speaker 1: And I think that is a testament to probably where
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Speaker 1: the coaching staff is at this point. You mentioned Brian Dable,
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Speaker 1: but you know, the fact that you know they are
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Speaker 1: still in the mix, and the fact that they're not
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Speaker 1: one of these downtrodden teams like the Carolina Panthers. You know,
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Speaker 1: they're not like the Cleveland Browns, who the Eagles played
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Speaker 1: last week and by the way, just barely got by
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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. I mean, we certainly can get into
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Speaker 1: that in a little bit as well, but I do
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Speaker 1: want to get into the quarterback play. You know, we've
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Speaker 1: seen some really great quarterback play from Jalen Hurts this year.
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Speaker 1: We've seen some terrible quarterback play from Jalen Hurts as well.
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Speaker 1: He did not turn the ball over last week for
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Speaker 1: the first time in what seems to be like fifty years,
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Speaker 1: and that was really nice to see. But with regard
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Speaker 1: to Daniel Jones and the kind of play that we
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Speaker 1: have seen from him under center, this year, look, his
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Speaker 1: completion percentage is at sixty two point one percent. He's
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Speaker 1: thrown six touchdowns four interceptions. He also has a tremendous
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Speaker 1: receiver in Malik Neighbors, who's so many of US football fans,
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Speaker 1: football fans in general. You love what Malik Neighbors has
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Speaker 1: been able to do thus far this season. Yes, he
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Speaker 1: was injured this past week because of a concussion, but
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Speaker 1: you know, coming back from that injury. I'm talking about
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones's injury this season. I'm wondering, have you seen
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Speaker 1: regression with him? Maybe it's stagnation. You know, I do
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Speaker 1: read Big Blue View, and I do read some other
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Speaker 1: Giant sites as well, quite frankly, and the fan base
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Speaker 1: not too too happy when it comes to Daniel Jones
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Speaker 1: and his productivity or maybe lack of productivity on the
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Speaker 1: field this year. Clearly doesn't seem to be that quarterback
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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty two that I think Giants Nation was
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Speaker 1: hoping for. What are your thoughts here, Chris on how
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Speaker 1: his level of play has been after six weeks?
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Speaker 2: Oh man, that is a loaded question. Basically, anything involving
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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones is a loaded question because it kind of
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Speaker 2: boggles the mind how somebody so personally vanilla. Yeah, can
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Speaker 2: be so incredibly polarizing.
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Speaker 1: But a great way to describe it, really.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, going back a few years, like back to
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Speaker 2: his sophomore year, back in twenty twenty, at the end
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Speaker 2: of the year at Valentine, our editor he asked me
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Speaker 2: on his podcast what I thought of Daniel Jones, what
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Speaker 2: my assessment of him was after two seasons, and I said,
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Speaker 2: he is a human Ruarshack test. Yeah. You can kind
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Speaker 2: of see whatever you want to see in his play.
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Speaker 2: He has the ability to throw a very, very pretty
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Speaker 2: deep ball. He has the ability to be efficient in
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Speaker 2: completing short, quick game passes. But then there are also
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Speaker 2: those valleys in his play where you know, his rookie season,
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Speaker 2: it was the fumbles. His sophomore season, it was just
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Speaker 2: boneheaded interceptions where he just did not see a defender deep. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: this year, the thing that I think has a lot
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Speaker 2: of people concerned is just his utter recklessness running the ball,
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Speaker 2: where he runs like a full back, right, an athletic fallback,
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Speaker 2: but allack And yeah, Like, if you want to like
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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, you can pick out things to like about
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Speaker 2: his game. You know, how he is scrambling to extend, extend,
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Speaker 2: extend plays and extend drives. Uh, finding Molik Neighbors when
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Speaker 2: he is healthy. Uh, finding Wandeale Robinson, somebody else we
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Speaker 2: can probably talk about a little bit later. Uh Darius Slayton.
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Speaker 2: Those things. However, the Giants offense with him is stagnant
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Speaker 2: is kind of the right word for it, because to
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Speaker 2: it has it might be the most conservative offense in
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Speaker 2: the NFL. Yeah, at halftime against the Brown or sorry,
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Speaker 2: halftime against the Seahawks, Uh, Jones intended air yardage was
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Speaker 2: I think about two yards downfield, you know this past
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Speaker 2: game his are or is something like one point nine
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Speaker 2: yards down the field. They just do not throw down
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Speaker 2: the field all that often with Jones, and part of
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Speaker 2: that might be coming back from the ACL Part of
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Speaker 2: that might be trying to rein in and control those
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Speaker 2: interceptible plays, because, like I said, this Giants team doesn't
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Speaker 2: really hurt itself. They their whole team philosophy is just
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Speaker 2: hang around and let the other team make all of
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Speaker 2: the mistakes. But the problem with that is, and this
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Speaker 2: is kind of the big downside with Jones and why
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Speaker 2: I think so many Giants fans are kind of over
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Speaker 2: him at this point, is that it puts your margin
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Speaker 2: of error on offense, you know, incredibly slim, right right, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: you basically cannot make a mistake because if you do,
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Speaker 2: you just do not have the horsepower to overcome that
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Speaker 2: that mistake. You know, if you if this team falls
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Speaker 2: behind by ten points, you know, a ball control offense
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Speaker 2: is not going to get it done. But with the
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Speaker 2: defense playing the way they have been and the offense
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Speaker 2: being again competitive, focused on controlling the ball, controlling the clock, yeah,
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Speaker 2: it has worked enough that the Giants are in games
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Speaker 2: to the end. Right, Just as a quarterback, I don't
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Speaker 2: know that Jones really has changed all that much from
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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty two season. You know that year the
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Speaker 2: Giants had the ball bounce their way a lot. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I can be objective enough to say that they know
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Speaker 2: from Week one with Randy Bullock missing of was forty
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Speaker 2: five to forty seven yard field goal for the win. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: you know, that just kind of set the tone for
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Speaker 2: that season and just over the last we'll say two
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Speaker 2: and a half seasons. Because you know, Jones missed time
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Speaker 2: with the ACL, he had a second neck injury, that
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Speaker 2: sort of thing. A lot of the NFL has just
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Speaker 2: picked up on his tendencies and the Giants offensive tendencies
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Speaker 2: with him at quarterbacks, so that the book is kind
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Speaker 2: of just out and if you can defend that style
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Speaker 2: of offense, you can defend the Giants.
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Speaker 1: And I'm wondering if the Eagles defense is going to
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Speaker 1: be able to do that this week. And it kind
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Speaker 1: of leads to the next topic I wanted to get
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Speaker 1: into with you, Chris, is this Giants offensive line because look,
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Speaker 1: coming into Week six the Philadelphia Eagles, they only had
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Speaker 1: six sacks on the season, just not getting the pass rush,
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Speaker 1: not getting to the quarterback hardly at all within the
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Speaker 1: first you know, the first five weeks of the season.
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Speaker 1: Last week, yes, the Eagles did end up having five sacks.
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Speaker 1: They're now up to eleven this year. But you know,
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Speaker 1: I wonder how this Giants offensive line now is going
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Speaker 1: to be holding up. Because if you don't have a steady,
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Speaker 1: an even solid offensive line in the NFL, you're really
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Speaker 1: not going to be able to do too much on offense.
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Speaker 1: It's a theme that we have been talking about here
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Speaker 1: for the eleven and a half years we've been doing
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Speaker 1: this podcast, and now with Andrew Thomas not being able
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Speaker 1: to play this week at this point. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: wonder if I wonder if this offensive line for the
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Speaker 1: Giants may potentially be taking some steps back, and if
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Speaker 1: there is a concern with the Eagles defense, even though
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Speaker 1: the Eagles defense really hasn't shown that much in terms
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Speaker 1: of the pass rush. I don't know what are your
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Speaker 1: thoughts here about where the Giants offensive line is that
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Speaker 1: now with Andrew Thomas being out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there is kind of there's a ton of concern.
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Speaker 2: I think people are flashing back to last year when
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Speaker 2: Thomas missed seven games with a hamstring injury. Yeah. For
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Speaker 2: anyone who doesn't know, I assume most people do. Thomas
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Speaker 2: has been diagnosed with a list frank injury. He suffered
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Speaker 2: it in the third quarter.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, last week.
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Speaker 2: Against the Bengals and somehow play You played a quarter
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Speaker 2: and a half against Trey hendrickson on one leg. That's phenomenal.
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Speaker 1: It's pretty incredible.
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Speaker 2: It is. Yeah, it not in a good way, but
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Speaker 2: it is still right. It's amazing. So it's now looking
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Speaker 2: like his season is over, So the Giants are going
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Speaker 2: to have to figure something out the It seems like
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Speaker 2: the next man up will be Joshua Zodu. He is
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Speaker 2: kind of their utility backup offensive lineman. I know he's
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Speaker 2: a four tool offensive lineman. He may even have cross
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Speaker 2: streamed to play center. I'm not sure on that, but
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Speaker 2: he was a former third round pick. He's personally I
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Speaker 2: think he's best at guard. The Giants tried him at
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Speaker 2: left tackle just right off the bench last year. It
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Speaker 2: did not work well. It didn't work well at all,
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Speaker 2: and so I think that is the source of a
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Speaker 2: lot of heartburn among Giants fans. You know, they do
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Speaker 2: have another option in moving current right tackle Jermaine and
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Speaker 2: Luminor over to left tackle and then move being former
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Speaker 2: these fifth six, the overall pick Evan Neil off the
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Speaker 2: bench and into right tackle. Uh. He hasn't played, he's
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Speaker 2: he has had a lot of problems throughout his young career.
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Speaker 2: We don't really need to get into that right right,
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I would say not having Andrew Thomas, he
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Speaker 2: is the leader of the offensive line. He is the
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Speaker 2: rock on that offensive line. You know John Runyon Jr.
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Speaker 2: Left guard, Jermaine Michael Uh John Michael Schmidt. Sorry yeah,
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Speaker 2: uh center Uh. Greg Van wrote in the right guard,
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Speaker 2: Jermaine and Luminor right tackle. Those guys have all been
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Speaker 2: relatively solid. You know, they've gotten worked in the past,
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Speaker 2: particularly the interior line in which Jalen Carter scares me
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Speaker 2: there but not or but rather, having Andrew Thomas allows
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Speaker 2: the Giants to really play with their double teams. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: they can double the three technique, or they can go
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Speaker 2: out and double the other edge rusher, or you know,
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Speaker 2: whatever the situation needs, because they have Andrew Thomas who
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Speaker 2: can handle pretty much anyone all by his loans. Right,
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Speaker 2: the having a backup left tackle and a backup left
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Speaker 2: tackle who doesn't really have all the traits you want
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Speaker 2: to see in an offensive tackle, that is a big
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Speaker 2: concern and it's going to have a domino effect throughout
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Speaker 2: the offense. Now, I would expect the Giants to lean
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Speaker 2: even more into the quick passing game. They'll probably lean
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Speaker 2: into the screen game because that has been very effective
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Speaker 2: for them over the last couple of weeks. Again with
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Speaker 2: a couple of other guys we can talk about in
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Speaker 2: a little bit. And then yeah, but then that opens up.
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Speaker 2: You know, what do you do about Jalen Carter? What
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Speaker 2: do you do about whoever the Eagles left defensive end
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Speaker 2: is going to be on that particular player left edge, Right, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: that I am not sure how it is going to
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Speaker 2: all pan out. The other eighty percent of the offensive
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Speaker 2: line is definitely better than it was a year ago.
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Speaker 1: Right it is, but yeah, it's.
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Speaker 2: It is not an ideal situation, which again, I you know,
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Speaker 2: Jordan Mylotta down with a hamstring injury of his own. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's very tough to find six really good offensive linemen
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Speaker 2: in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: It absolutely is. Yeah, No, it absolutely is. And I
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Speaker 1: think that this could be an opportunity for the Eagles.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to wait and see if they actually
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Speaker 1: are able to capitalize on this and if they had
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Speaker 1: Giants then in the same turn, are gonna be able
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Speaker 1: to capitalize? Like you mentioned, Jordan Mylotta out with a
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Speaker 1: hamstring injury? Are they gonna are? Is the Giants defense
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Speaker 1: gonna be able to capitalize? And gonna get to the
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Speaker 1: Giants defense in just a second. Again, folks, we're talking
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Speaker 1: follow Chris on the Twitter slash x raptor MKI great.
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Speaker 1: Great follow, And again, let's move on to the defense here,
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Speaker 1: because this Giants defense quite Frank In my opinion, they
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Speaker 1: have been surprising this year. They haven't allowed more than
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Speaker 1: twenty one points in their last five games. They lead
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Speaker 1: the NFL with twenty six sacks. Dexter Lawrence already has
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Speaker 1: seven this season. Brian Burns was on fire this past
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Speaker 1: week against the Bengals, and I'm absolutely petrified of what
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Speaker 1: he may do in terms of going up against our
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Speaker 1: backup left tackle for the Eagles. The momentum that this
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Speaker 1: Giants defense has heading into Week seven, I think for
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Speaker 1: opposing teams is definitely concerning for those teams. So what
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Speaker 1: are some of the overall defensive themes that we really
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Speaker 1: need to be on the lookout for this coming week
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Speaker 1: against the Eagles.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think just from an x's no standpoint, the
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Speaker 2: Giants are gonna play a lot of at least what
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Speaker 2: looks like Cover four. Yeah, the outset of the game,
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Speaker 2: which you know, Eagles fans, with Vic Fangio back there
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Speaker 2: calling that defense, that's something you should probably already be
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Speaker 2: pretty familiar with.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's gonna be the two deep safeties trying to
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Speaker 2: take away the deep shots if they The Giants do
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Speaker 2: like to play a fair amount of pattern matching rules
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Speaker 2: underneath that, so they're cornerback slots. Those guys that whether
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Speaker 2: they're playing man or zone will really depend on what
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Speaker 2: their opponents do, and that can make it pretty tough
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Speaker 2: for opposing quarterbacks to get through their reads quickly. You know,
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Speaker 2: that's something we saw last week with Joe Burrow, where
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Speaker 2: it seemed like every drive he was, you know, double clutching,
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Speaker 2: patting the ball a couple times, just trying to figure
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Speaker 2: out where his open receiver was, and then that really
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Speaker 2: gave the time for the defensive line to do its thing.
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Speaker 2: The Giants use a lot of stunts and twists. They
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Speaker 2: at times will use some defensive lineman almost like bull backs,
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Speaker 2: to just take out a blocker and create that free
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Speaker 2: run into the backfield. Dexter Lawrence tends to benefit from
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Speaker 2: that a lot, in addition to just being a load
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Speaker 2: in and of himself. Yes, Now, the two things that
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Speaker 2: I noticed last week against the Bengals that I think
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Speaker 2: might carry forward into this week was how the Giants
18:28
Speaker 2: deployed their corners and then their edge defenders against the
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Speaker 2: Bengals receivers and offensive tackles respectively. You know, the Bengals
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Speaker 2: have Orlando Brown, who is one of the best left
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Speaker 2: tackles in the NFL right now, the Giants made a
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Speaker 2: point of putting Brandon Burns against him and then use
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Speaker 2: Azizo Jalari their number three edge defender, with Kevon Thibodeau
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Speaker 2: on the ir having risked surgery surprise last week. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: so what they did was they basically use Burns to
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Speaker 2: occupy Orlando Brown and then unleashed Ojelari against the rookie
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Speaker 2: Amarius Mims. So I actually wouldn't be surprised to see
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Speaker 2: Brandon Burns on the right side against Lane Johnson and
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Speaker 2: then Ojelari on the backup left tackle, just as kind
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Speaker 2: of a way to allocate resources and say, if you're
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Speaker 2: gonna take one of our defenders out of the game,
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Speaker 2: it's gonna be the one who has the best chance
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Speaker 2: of not being taken out of the game. If that
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Speaker 2: makes any sense.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh, absolutely absolutely it does. I you know,
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Speaker 1: I think that there is definitely a chance. Well, what's
19:42
Speaker 1: interesting with regard to Lane Johnson, what you're saying too
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Speaker 1: is like coming back from his concussions, he actually did
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Speaker 1: not allow any pressures last week against quarnerback, which was
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Speaker 1: very interesting. So that matchup that you're talking about there
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Speaker 1: that could be really really interesting this week to watch. Boy,
19:58
Speaker 1: what a battle that would. But as we're moving along
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Speaker 1: with the conversation here, Chris, you know, when we look
20:04
Speaker 1: at the matchups coming into this week, I'm wondering where
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Speaker 1: you may have a concern in terms of the Giants.
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Speaker 1: So let's talk concerns on offense and defense here. What
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Speaker 1: is your biggest concern with any of the Giants offensive
20:18
Speaker 1: matchups against this Eagles defense and Eagles defense that really
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Speaker 1: has been up and down. What are your thoughts here?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean first concern, I think first biggest that
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Speaker 2: has to be the offensive line. You know, the I
20:31
Speaker 2: would have said if Andrew Thomas was healthy, then Jalen
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Speaker 2: Carter against Greg Van Roten and John Michael SCHMIDTZ. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: Giants right guard center duo has been kind of the
20:46
Speaker 2: the weakest point along this offensive line. And I've got
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Speaker 2: a ton of respect for Jalen Carter. Yeah, I honestly
20:53
Speaker 2: don't know how the NFL let him last in the
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Speaker 2: draft as long as he did. Yeah, It's kind of
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Speaker 2: thing we see every year with the with the Ravens.
21:05
Speaker 2: It's just weird. Yes, But obviously with Andrew Thomas Out.
21:09
Speaker 2: We talked about that. You know, Nolan Smith, the speed
21:12
Speaker 2: he has off of that off of the edge. That
21:16
Speaker 2: definitely concerns me. With Joshua Zodo because he's got good
21:20
Speaker 2: feet for a guard, but not great feet for a
21:24
Speaker 2: tackle right then down the field. You know, I'm I
21:29
Speaker 2: don't know if Malik Neighbors will play. He's he just
21:33
Speaker 2: practiced today in a limited capacity, non contact running routes
21:37
Speaker 2: against air. Uh. He had a very significant concussion. It
21:42
Speaker 2: actually happened back in back against the Cowboys back on
21:46
Speaker 2: Thursday Night Football a couple of weeks ago. So he's
21:48
Speaker 2: missed two games with that concussion. So that I am
21:54
Speaker 2: just concerned about whether or not he is going to play.
21:57
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah him, Yeah, go ahead.
22:02
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
22:03
Speaker 2: The Giants receivers are actually pretty underrated, but just there
22:08
Speaker 2: is a tendency when the team is under pressure, you know,
22:12
Speaker 2: you have to pick up this third down. They do
22:16
Speaker 2: kind of have a tendency to drop the ball, and
22:20
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones doesn't always make it easy on them. He
22:23
Speaker 2: can be prone to throwing it low or behind them.
22:26
Speaker 2: But in those gotta have it situations, the ball does
22:31
Speaker 2: tend to bobble bounce and hit the ground too often,
22:35
Speaker 2: So that I think is the other concern. I would
22:38
Speaker 2: have just like those opportunities to either not convert or
22:42
Speaker 2: for the ball to be going back the other way, right, Well, I.
22:45
Speaker 1: Mean on the on the flip side of that coin
22:47
Speaker 1: then too. What is your biggest concern with any of
22:50
Speaker 1: the Giants defensive matchups against an Eagles offense? An Eagles
22:54
Speaker 1: offense that was supposed to be a little bit more
22:56
Speaker 1: high powered. And yes, they did lose Aj Brown for
22:59
Speaker 1: more than a few weeks, Demante Smith was out for
23:02
Speaker 1: a week. Both were back this past week, made an
23:05
Speaker 1: impact on the field. But you know what, what is
23:08
Speaker 1: that biggest concern of yours with the Giants defensive matchups
23:11
Speaker 1: against the Seagles offense.
23:13
Speaker 2: No, the one on one or one on two matchup
23:17
Speaker 2: would be for me Aj Brown if he gets matched
23:20
Speaker 2: up against Cordale Flott, who has been kind of in
23:23
Speaker 2: nickel packages or in most packages, the Giants number two
23:28
Speaker 2: cornerback across from Deontay Banks. Banks has been giving up receptions,
23:34
Speaker 2: but he at least has the size and speed to
23:37
Speaker 2: match up with Aj Brown, who is that I don't
23:40
Speaker 2: know what they were putting in the water down in Ole,
23:42
Speaker 2: Miss when he and bet Kaefer down there. But those
23:44
Speaker 2: dudes are tanks. They are, yes yet, but Cordiale Flat
23:49
Speaker 2: is not. He is like he is a long corner.
23:53
Speaker 2: He's like six one six two, he's got long arms,
23:55
Speaker 2: but he's also about one hundred and seventy five pounds maybe,
24:00
Speaker 2: So like that is a pretty big, just size speed mismatch. Now,
24:07
Speaker 2: last week, Flot and one of the safeties. It changed
24:11
Speaker 2: based on the play. We're on Jamar Chase all the time,
24:15
Speaker 2: and the Giants were able to keep Jamar Chase and
24:17
Speaker 2: t Higgins to about seventy yards apiece, which is pretty
24:22
Speaker 2: good work, not that bad. Yeah, no, so like I
24:27
Speaker 2: suspect the Giants will try that again. But just if
24:30
Speaker 2: it gets down to being physical and just that fight
24:34
Speaker 2: at the catch point, a matchup between Flott and aj
24:38
Speaker 2: Brown would worry me. And then I'm I also can't
24:41
Speaker 2: help you concerned about Jahan Dobson. I loved him coming
24:43
Speaker 2: out of Penn State. Yeah, I thought he had if
24:46
Speaker 2: not wide receiver one upside, then very very good wide
24:50
Speaker 2: receiver two upside. And I'm not sure who he gets
24:53
Speaker 2: matched up on in this game. It would probably be
24:56
Speaker 2: the rookie Drew Phillips, who is again another guy where
25:00
Speaker 2: just looking at our plan for this podcast. We'll talk
25:03
Speaker 2: about in a little bit. But Drew Phillips has been
25:06
Speaker 2: very impressive as a rookie. But Johan Dotson is or
25:09
Speaker 2: at least as I remember him, to be an excellent
25:12
Speaker 2: route runner, and those guys always have an advantage exactly.
25:16
Speaker 1: I wish the Eagles would utilize him a little bit more,
25:18
Speaker 1: quite frankly.
25:19
Speaker 2: But as we next week, next week, next week.
25:22
Speaker 1: Exactly as we end our discussion here, Chris, we want
25:26
Speaker 1: to get into some sneaky players for US Eagles fans
25:29
Speaker 1: to you know, kind of keep our eyes on with
25:31
Speaker 1: this New York Giants team. Who is your sneaky player
25:34
Speaker 1: for us to look out for on the Giants offense
25:37
Speaker 1: this week?
25:38
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna give you a tow of fern. I'll
25:39
Speaker 2: try to keep it short, okay, because neither of these
25:42
Speaker 2: guys are exactly sneaky. The first one rookie running back
25:47
Speaker 2: Tyrone Tracy. Okay, I expect a lot of people have
25:52
Speaker 2: heard his name. Over the last two weeks. Evin Singletary
25:54
Speaker 2: has been hurt. He's had a I believe it was
25:56
Speaker 2: a groin injury. Off the top of my head. Tracy
26:00
Speaker 2: came out and dropped in his very first start, his
26:03
Speaker 2: first extended action as an NFL player, he led the
26:06
Speaker 2: league in rushing. He had one hundred and twenty nine
26:08
Speaker 2: yards against the Seahawks. Last week he came out, he
26:11
Speaker 2: only had fifty years so yards rushing, but he also
26:14
Speaker 2: had fifty yards receiving. He's a former receiver turned running back.
26:18
Speaker 2: He's got great vision, great contact balance, great short area
26:21
Speaker 2: of quickness. I run our draft content at Big Blue View,
26:28
Speaker 2: and he was the one guy when the Giants drafted him.
26:32
Speaker 2: I swore under my breath because every year it works
26:36
Speaker 2: out that there's at least one player that I just
26:38
Speaker 2: did not have the time to scout and do a
26:41
Speaker 2: proper profile on. Yeah. A couple of years ago it
26:44
Speaker 2: was Pukainakua. This year it was Tyrone Tracy, right, yeah,
26:48
Speaker 2: And like I think, with some extended run, he has
26:52
Speaker 2: that that upside to be that guy that comes out
26:54
Speaker 2: of nowhere that everybody's talking about and just winds up
26:59
Speaker 2: on everybody's fantasy team next year.
27:02
Speaker 1: Right yep.
27:03
Speaker 2: The other one is Wandale Robinson, the Giants wide receiver
27:07
Speaker 2: two okay, through most of the through most of the season.
27:10
Speaker 2: In fact, his volume has rivaled a lot of wide
27:13
Speaker 2: receiver ones. He was a running back turned wide receiver.
27:19
Speaker 2: He's undersized, he is incredibly shifty, very very quick, feat
27:25
Speaker 2: and the Giants love to throw to him short and
27:28
Speaker 2: then just trust him to make the first guy, the
27:30
Speaker 2: first two guys miss and turn a three to five
27:33
Speaker 2: yard catch into a seven to ten yard reception and
27:38
Speaker 2: just keep the offense on schedule and on the field.
27:41
Speaker 2: I think those are the two guys the Eagles defense
27:44
Speaker 2: has to really watch out.
27:45
Speaker 1: For, all right. Well, on the flip side of that coin, too,
27:48
Speaker 1: your sneaky player for us to look out for on
27:50
Speaker 1: the Giants' defense this week? Who do you think that's
27:53
Speaker 1: going to be?
27:54
Speaker 2: All right? I'll start with the obvious one that I
27:56
Speaker 2: actually just mentioned. That's Drew Phillips. Yeah, slot corner, Nick
28:00
Speaker 2: Saban said during the draft. I think he might have
28:02
Speaker 2: also mentioned it during the scout and combine. He was
28:06
Speaker 2: his Saban's favorite cornerback in this year's draft class. He
28:10
Speaker 2: isn't long, he isn't particularly athletic, but he is just
28:18
Speaker 2: he is just a disruptor. He disrupts in the run game,
28:21
Speaker 2: he disrupts in the passing game. He is incredibly physical.
28:24
Speaker 2: He kind of reminds me of Tyron Matthew back in
28:28
Speaker 2: the day as a guy who doesn't exactly fit the
28:32
Speaker 2: cornerback archetype physically and athletically, but is just he is
28:38
Speaker 2: just good at football.
28:39
Speaker 1: It's an interesting comp Yeah.
28:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. He plays cornerback like a safety. Is the
28:45
Speaker 2: best way I can describe his game. And then the
28:47
Speaker 2: other guy is Elijah Chapman, who was a UDFA defensive
28:54
Speaker 2: tackle this year. Yeah, a lot of rookies. The Giants'
28:57
Speaker 2: rookie class is playing very, very well for them. It's
29:00
Speaker 2: it's like one of the few real bright spots this year. Right,
29:03
Speaker 2: Chatman was a UDFA rookie Minni Camp sinee and he
29:09
Speaker 2: is now a starter for the Giants. He is undersized,
29:13
Speaker 2: He's about Aaron Donald sized, and he's about Aaron Donald
29:17
Speaker 2: levels of athletic. He made highlight reels during the preseason
29:22
Speaker 2: when he ran a play down from behind from like
29:25
Speaker 2: sixty yards away. He's got a ton of hustle. He's
29:28
Speaker 2: very fast and he's very explosive. The Giants like to
29:31
Speaker 2: use him as a penetrator, and at times he's one
29:34
Speaker 2: of those kind of defensive line fallbacks where he just
29:37
Speaker 2: explodes off the ball, takes a guard out of the
29:40
Speaker 2: play and creates havoc in the backfield and opportunities for
29:45
Speaker 2: the other guys to get that cleanup sack, which is
29:47
Speaker 2: how a lot of the Giant sacks have come, just
29:50
Speaker 2: cleaning up when the play breaks down for the offense.
29:54
Speaker 1: Well, they definitely got a lot of sacks on the season.
29:57
Speaker 1: Twenty six That is wow. Nothing to you know, it's
30:02
Speaker 1: nothing to put your nose up in the air about,
30:05
Speaker 1: for sure, But.
30:07
Speaker 2: There have been years when the Giants haven't gotten twenty
30:09
Speaker 2: six on the season exactly exactly.
30:12
Speaker 1: I've been following the Giants for quite some time, my friend,
30:14
Speaker 1: and I gotta tell you this matchup I think is
30:16
Speaker 1: gonna be a good one. Quite frankly, I think we're
30:18
Speaker 1: gonna see an interesting game this Sunday. And again, folks.
30:22
Speaker 1: Chris Flumm from Big Blue View dot com. Chris, it
30:26
Speaker 1: was great having you on here for the first time.
30:27
Speaker 1: Love talking to you. Great great stuff you're doing over
30:31
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30:34
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30:36
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, I would be happy to be back.
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