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Love Island (EP 30):“Why Does America Hate Me?” Islanders Spiral After America’s Vote · I Do, Part 2

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  Speaker 1: Hey, they're folks.
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  Speaker 2: It is Tuesday, July the seventh, and Love Island season eight,
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  Speaker 2: episode thirty is in the books. Hey, no, Love Island
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  Speaker 2: doesn't give a title to each episode. They just name
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  Speaker 2: it episode one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: This one's episode thirty. But if they had a title Robes,
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  Speaker 2: it could have been titled We're spiraling and with that,
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  Speaker 2: welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. They are,
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  Speaker 2: they have they're all almost all of them are spiraling Robes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The other title could have been aka, why does America
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  Speaker 4: Hate Me?
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  Speaker 1: That's another one. Everybody wants to.
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  Speaker 3: Be liked, and they're very upset.
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  Speaker 4: Those who were in the bottom three were at least
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  Speaker 4: I guess there's two left who were in the bottom three,
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  Speaker 4: and they are one hundred percent spiraling.
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of the four people spiraling. I
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  Speaker 3: actually like Kenzie the.
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  Speaker 1: Best Kensey spiral.
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  Speaker 3: She did.
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  Speaker 4: She she did say I feel like America hates me,
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  Speaker 4: but she's actually just owning it, saying trying to understand.
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  Speaker 4: I thought I was supposed to explore in here, and
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people online are saying, yeah, Kenzy actually
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  Speaker 4: is doing what the game is supposed to be, and
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  Speaker 4: for some reason it's frowned upon and everyone's coming on
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  Speaker 4: to her because she did and she was upfront about it,
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  Speaker 4: but she has explored and now she's just getting I mean,
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  Speaker 4: Dylan will get into this. But Dylan's spiraling massively and
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  Speaker 4: blaming their bottom three status solely on Kenzie. And then
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  Speaker 4: you have Kada Guess spiraling saying why does America hate me?
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  Speaker 4: But more importantly, why do they like case and TT
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  Speaker 4: over me and my guy?
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  Speaker 3: That's where she lost me.
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  Speaker 4: And then Zach is spiraling thinking that he's getting punished
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  Speaker 4: for what he did in Casa Amore or what he
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  Speaker 4: didn't do or say to kDa correctly. So yes, they're
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  Speaker 4: all literally losing their mind. Let's start with Kada and Zach, because.
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  Speaker 2: I swear I have not I don't think i've seen
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  Speaker 2: someone's stock fall this sharply on the show because she
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  Speaker 2: was way way up ropes.
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  Speaker 1: She lost some people and she doesn't realize she did.
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  Speaker 3: Oh the irony because as she's trying to figure out
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  Speaker 3: why she and Zach were in the bottom too, and frankly,
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  Speaker 3: you and I discussed it, we're pretty sure it's just
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  Speaker 3: because they didn't move the needle strongly in one way
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  Speaker 3: or the other.
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  Speaker 4: It's not because anyone doesn't like them. Some people think
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  Speaker 4: Zach's creepy. But now she's sitting there trying to figure
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  Speaker 4: it out, and went really negative and on the offense,
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  Speaker 4: like started throwing shade at Casey and Tit, saying, why
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  Speaker 4: did they get in the top four. They've been together
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  Speaker 4: for a hot second. We've been together since the beginning.
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  Speaker 4: So it was almost like the sense of entitlement that
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  Speaker 4: because she's been there the longest with Zach and they've
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  Speaker 4: only had a few arguments, how could America possibly be
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  Speaker 4: rejecting them? And so she was so upset about it.
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  Speaker 4: She started getting nasty about Casey and Tit. Yeah that's
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  Speaker 4: not okay, So now I don't like her.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it came off as pretty girl arrogant and she
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  Speaker 2: was throwing a fit. And we don't know this young lady.
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  Speaker 2: They're in this folk, so we're extending that grace to them.
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  Speaker 2: I get that, but I'm saying what it came across
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  Speaker 2: as because it.
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  Speaker 1: Was an entitlement.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't just that, oh my god, I'm upset, like
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  Speaker 2: you're talking about Kinsey. She was upset, she lashed.
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  Speaker 3: Out, that's such a good way to put it.
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  Speaker 2: She projected and almost called us idiots as Americans and
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  Speaker 2: pointed out, this is what I hate, when you have
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  Speaker 2: to put somebody else down to make yourself look better.
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  Speaker 1: And she went after.
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  Speaker 2: Casey, who's got good chemistry and it's doing this thing
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  Speaker 2: and happy to be.
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  Speaker 4: There right and surprised that America seemingly has forgiven him.
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  Speaker 2: See, and I thought all along, look, Kita, I wasn't
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  Speaker 2: surprised by that last night, kind of been waiting on it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was just disappointed by it because and
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  Speaker 4: I also just thought, Kata, Kata kid. Aren't we all
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  Speaker 4: always our own worst enemies. I mean, I'm not trying
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  Speaker 4: to single her out. We've all been there. And if
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  Speaker 4: we just recognized our reaction to something actually makes it
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  Speaker 4: so much worse than actually what just happened, Like we
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  Speaker 4: our egos are overthinking ends up being the thing that
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  Speaker 4: does us in. And that's exactly what we saw displayed
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  Speaker 4: by Kada last night, just trying to figure out why
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  Speaker 4: she isn't liked and then just started making herself wildly
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  Speaker 4: unlikable in the process.
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  Speaker 2: That is so true, poor thing, and she doesn't know
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  Speaker 2: now how she has been received and the conversation has
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  Speaker 2: been around her for the past several weeks, which has
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  Speaker 2: been wholly positive. Ropes, she doesn't know that she doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have that reassurance. This is the first time Robes here
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  Speaker 2: she is being judged, and.
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  Speaker 3: It was her worst moment, and it.
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  Speaker 1: Was do you like me or you don't like me?
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  Speaker 2: And she is used to being in the liked column,
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  Speaker 2: and America didn't like to the point of wanting to
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  Speaker 2: kick her off. And she doesn't know how far down
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  Speaker 2: in the bottom they could have been dead last, so
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  Speaker 2: Ropes to see her start like her wheels were spinning.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, and so Zach's kiels were spinning as well. But
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  Speaker 4: he was actually looking at himself and wondering what he
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  Speaker 4: did wrong and the what ifs and I should have
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  Speaker 4: And I appreciate that, But then I told.
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  Speaker 3: You I was a little suspect.
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  Speaker 4: Look, I do believe that Zach likes Kada and that
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  Speaker 4: Kata liked Zach one hundred percent, but I did think
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  Speaker 4: that he kind of it seemed a little calculated that
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  Speaker 4: he decided and he was talking with the boys about
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  Speaker 4: wanting to take their relationship to the next level, but
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  Speaker 4: he wanted to stop short of the boyfriend girlfriend thing.
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  Speaker 4: But it almost made me feel like, what are you doing?
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  Speaker 4: What is the point? I want to say we're closed off,
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  Speaker 4: but obviously all the couple are closed off at this point.
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  Speaker 4: It's the final week. No bombshells are coming in, so
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  Speaker 4: that's nothing. That doesn't mean anything. So then he's like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: Well he landed on telling Cada that he wants to
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  Speaker 4: leave the villa exclusively dating but not yet boyfriend girlfriend,
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  Speaker 4: and that was where he landed. But it almost felt
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  Speaker 4: like he was trying to prove to the audience as
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  Speaker 4: we vote on our favorite couples, that he is serious
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  Speaker 4: about her, but he still wasn't willing to actually ask
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  Speaker 4: her to be his girlfriend. I was like, that felt
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  Speaker 4: a little manipulative.
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  Speaker 2: I think this is incredible how people can watch things
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  Speaker 2: and see them two different ways. Even after you mentioned this,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I never even thought about that.
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  Speaker 3: Really, what did you see That.
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  Speaker 1: Even crossed my mind?
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  Speaker 2: I saw them having these weird conversations that their time
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  Speaker 2: is winding down. They have now been able to or
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  Speaker 2: with a vote, they need to reflect on what the
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  Speaker 2: relationship really is and what people really do see and right,
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  Speaker 2: that was the first bit of outside information, right, that
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  Speaker 2: they got about their relations.
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  Speaker 4: And that's when he decides to try to like close
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  Speaker 4: them off and make them an actual couple.
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  Speaker 2: No, he is reflecting, So these conversations, I'm saying, it's
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  Speaker 2: about the right time to talk to you. But what
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  Speaker 2: are you gonna do when you get out of here? Well,
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  Speaker 2: I want to do this next and then I want
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  Speaker 2: to take this next step.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was weird you broke this down for
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  Speaker 2: me recently that the steps in the villa goes from
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  Speaker 2: you closed off, you go closed off, and then your
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  Speaker 2: boyfriend girlfriend.
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  Speaker 4: But he found one in between those two. But no,
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  Speaker 4: he's exclusively dating.
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  Speaker 1: But he made it.
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  Speaker 2: He made this point, which is true, saying at this
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  Speaker 2: point we're closed off means.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing, right, Yeah, because there's no one else coming in.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so we can throw that out. Okay, that's not
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  Speaker 2: an option for him. So what's his next.
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  Speaker 3: Option short of saying you're my girlfriend?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 3: How can I ask you this?
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  Speaker 4: How is exclusively dating any different than saying you're my girlfriend?
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  Speaker 1: Um?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm thinking no, no, no, I'm trying to think of
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  Speaker 2: that name. I'm thinking Goldie Han. All right, it's a
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  Speaker 2: matter of a label. Do you want to put a
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  Speaker 2: label on it or not? Now, it's a big deal
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  Speaker 2: to some people to announce to the world we are
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  Speaker 2: boy and girlfriend. That is more of a public thing.
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  Speaker 2: The exclusivity can happen between the two of you privately
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  Speaker 2: that nobody has to know.
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  Speaker 1: Does that make sense?
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  Speaker 4: No, because if nobody has to know, then that means
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  Speaker 4: that you're keeping your options open by not telling people
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  Speaker 4: you're exclusive.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no no.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't have to introduce you to the family,
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  Speaker 2: introduce you to a group of people.
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  Speaker 1: There, it comes with a different way.
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  Speaker 3: Here's my friend Kada.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, everybody knows who the hell Kita.
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  Speaker 4: Is exclusive partner, but not my girlfriend or as I'm told,
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  Speaker 4: some women appreciate you introduce them by their name.
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  Speaker 1: You could just say this is Kada. A big deal.
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  Speaker 4: You moments where you have to get like and we've
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  Speaker 4: struggled like stru fiance is a lot of I always
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  Speaker 4: felt weird calling you my boyfriend.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't have to.
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  Speaker 4: This is TJ I answer to it anyway. This also
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  Speaker 4: made me laugh because we had a quick conversation about this.
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  Speaker 4: Kaita was elated and made it very clear that she
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  Speaker 4: too did not want to be boyfriend girlfriend and was
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  Speaker 4: very cool with this intermediate step. Yes, I call bs
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  Speaker 4: on that if he had said to her, I want
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  Speaker 4: you to be my girlfriend, she would.
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  Speaker 3: Have leapt up and squealed and said yes.
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  Speaker 2: She might have just said that's too much right now,
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  Speaker 2: Why don't we just for now say we exclusive and
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  Speaker 2: then when we get on the outside.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, I would say that sounds awesome, But deep
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  Speaker 4: down if he had said this is if he had
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  Speaker 4: said I want to have I want to be your boyfriend,
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  Speaker 4: I want you my girlfriend, she would have absolutely said
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  Speaker 4: yes and been elated.
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  Speaker 1: Never crossed my mind.
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  Speaker 4: Also, my favorite line, Zach, it's always been you.
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  Speaker 1: These two need to get away from each other.
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  Speaker 3: Well, so far, so good.
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  Speaker 4: They're not fighting, which would bring me to Dylan and Kenzie.
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  Speaker 4: Can we I know this is your least favorite topic,
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  Speaker 4: but look, I mentioned that. Kenzie also said I feel
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  Speaker 4: like America hates me, but she was taking it on
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  Speaker 4: the chin, and she was. She has been saying I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 4: She has been apologizing. She has offered the defense that yes,
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  Speaker 4: she was exploring, as she said she was exploring, and
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  Speaker 4: what was so wrong about exploring, but my god, Dylan,
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  Speaker 4: even Trinity was getting frustrated, going move the f on
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  Speaker 4: like she said, she's into you. She sincerely said she's
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  Speaker 4: into you. She's telling you that it's different with you.
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  Speaker 3: And he just won't accept it.
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  Speaker 4: And he came back twice with the same conversation, wiping
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  Speaker 4: tears from his eyes, saying, I just can't trust you.
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  Speaker 4: This is really hard for me. How can I believe you?
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  Speaker 4: It's exhausting.
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  Speaker 3: I felt for Kenzie.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, okay, So why do you think this is happening?
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  Speaker 2: Is this just okay? First, let me ask you. You've
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  Speaker 2: been looking online? What is the conversation around Dylan not good?
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  Speaker 4: And they felt from what I've been able to read
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  Speaker 4: what I've seen, I felt the same way.
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  Speaker 3: He's so upset that they're in the bottom.
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  Speaker 4: Too, right, And all he did was immediately blame Kenzie.
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  Speaker 4: America sees something that I don't. America sees that Kenzie
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  Speaker 4: is not to be trusted, and she's had four guys
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  Speaker 4: in a row and she's done the same thing to
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  Speaker 4: all of them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what you're supposed to do on Love Island.
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  Speaker 3: So he starts blaming her.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't even take into consideration for one second that
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  Speaker 4: maybe America doesn't like him, And I thought that was
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  Speaker 4: so narcissistic. I was like, dude, you've not even thought
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  Speaker 4: for one second that maybe.
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  Speaker 3: You're annoying, You're obnoxious.
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  Speaker 4: You're way too emotional, you're too clingy, maybe people don't
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  Speaker 4: like you.
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  Speaker 3: He never considered it.
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  Speaker 4: He's solely and completely blamed Kenzie for their status.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so this is where I need help. Is what
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  Speaker 2: we're seeing? Are these just personality flaws or are we
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  Speaker 2: watching something that is malicious right, intentional and manipulative in
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  Speaker 2: what he's doing. He could just be a guy who
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  Speaker 2: doesn't know how to handle his feelings, who gets who
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  Speaker 2: just gets wrapped up in is behaving poorly or is
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  Speaker 2: he up to something Robes.
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  Speaker 3: Well, so I think it might be.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think he's deliberately malicious, but I think he
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  Speaker 4: is overly trying to protect his own ego and overly
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  Speaker 4: trying to protect his image on TV at the expense
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  Speaker 4: of the girl he claims to really like, and that
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  Speaker 4: makes me not like him.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well, you know where I've stood since the
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  Speaker 2: moment they said this is Dylan. I have not because
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  Speaker 2: again I encourage you all to go back to that
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  Speaker 2: initial episode when he tried to fake cry and robes
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  Speaker 2: that when someone's doing that, they are trying to manipulate you.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know what he was doing and why
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  Speaker 2: he was doing and he caught up in the moment.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know him, so I'm never ever trying to
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  Speaker 2: just put down we don't know him. A decent dude,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure, But if you're trying, he's pressing against his
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  Speaker 2: eye in a ridiculous manner, acting as if he's wiping tears.
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  Speaker 2: If you're doing that, you are absolutely looking at me
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  Speaker 2: and lying to me and trying to manipulate me.
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  Speaker 1: And I didn't. I hadn't been riding with him from
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  Speaker 1: that moment.
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  Speaker 2: Well, in that moment and what he's doing to Kinsey,
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  Speaker 2: it's very hard to get me on kinsey side, and
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  Speaker 2: a lot of things on Love Island. I am firmly
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  Speaker 2: in her camp. It's ridicus the behavior. Now, she has
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  Speaker 2: every right to just look sternly and say I am sorry.
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  Speaker 2: But if that's where you are, there's nothing nowhere else.
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  Speaker 2: Ropes you can't he keeps, she keeps apologizing. She does
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  Speaker 2: this is I think I wrote this down as a
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  Speaker 2: love lesson. She keeps apologizing and he is not not
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  Speaker 2: just not accepting it, he keeps moving the goalpost, or
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  Speaker 2: keeps repeating what she did wrong, or repeating repeating like
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  Speaker 2: there is nothing she can say that he won't just
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  Speaker 2: keep repeating like he is trying to beat her up. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: and it's just and so that is in line with
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  Speaker 2: the tears for me, it's in line with the personality
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  Speaker 2: of absolutely beating folks that he is emotionally gaslighting all
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  Speaker 2: of us.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, and I think there was a point in which
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  Speaker 4: you cheered and I did too, when Kenzie said everything
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  Speaker 4: I say to you is not good enough. I'm telling
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  Speaker 4: you how I'm different with you. I don't know what
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  Speaker 4: more I can say to you, Dylan. I also can't
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  Speaker 4: build on this. I appreciated when she said this. I
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  Speaker 4: can't build on this. I can't work with that.
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  Speaker 3: If you are not believing what I'm saying to you,
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  Speaker 3: then this is not going to work. Good for you, kids,
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  Speaker 3: she landed her plane.
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  Speaker 1: Good for you kins.
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  Speaker 2: And again, we always said Rose didn't like some of
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  Speaker 2: the stuff she did and had feelings about it, but
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  Speaker 2: she is a star of the show.
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  Speaker 1: She just is she's been a big player.
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  Speaker 4: It's not mean spirited. She's just Kenzie. And honestly, she
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  Speaker 4: was playing, she was doing she was playing the game,
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  Speaker 4: and this is a game, this is a and she
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: was looking for love. And I actually do believe that
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  Speaker 4: she likes him. But what he is doing, he is
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  Speaker 4: self sabotaging. He is sealing his fate. She is going
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  Speaker 4: to tire of this. She is going to be irritated
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  Speaker 4: by this. She already is, and she is going to
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  Speaker 4: resent him for this. And at a certain point, you
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  Speaker 4: can't make somebody believe you. If they don't believe you,
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  Speaker 4: you just have to let.
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  Speaker 3: That be what it is and move on.
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  Speaker 1: He's been exhausting for a while.
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  Speaker 3: He is exhausting.
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  Speaker 4: And Carl didn't help when he told Dylan his Chinese
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  Speaker 4: proverb it's easier to move a mountain than it is
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  Speaker 4: to change a person.
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  Speaker 3: That was the last thing Dylan needed to hear. Thanks Carl, Carl.
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  Speaker 2: It seemed this episode in particular, seems like it was amazing.
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  Speaker 2: And what lesson folks are so caught up in what
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: other people think of them.
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  Speaker 4: Isn't that what we all battle with in terms of
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  Speaker 4: us and other people.
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  Speaker 3: It's what do you think of me? I want you
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  Speaker 3: to like me.
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  Speaker 1: That's it's happened to the point of sabotage.
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  Speaker 2: It's happened to the point they're sabotaging and want to
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  Speaker 2: alter their behavior, and it's gotten a little disturbing.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't like it.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you can remind me that this happens in every season,
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  Speaker 2: but Robes they are questioning their relationship based on a vote.
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  Speaker 4: No, they do it a little bit. This is the
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  Speaker 4: most I've ever seen it. It's the most spiraling I've.
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  Speaker 2: Seen acting as if, well, if they don't think we're
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: a favorite couple, then something then I must be seeing
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: something wrong or something isn't right here, so I need
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: to go re examining question. And it seems like Robes
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: they're fighting to get into the top four, three, two
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: or whatever and win this thing instead of the priority
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: being love relationship.
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  Speaker 4: Look, I also think it's interesting to see when you
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: are faced with that, and you're faced with that knowledge
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: that somehow you were in the bottom three. There are
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: people who look at themselves about what have I done
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: and how can I do better? And then there are
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: people who look at the other person and say, what
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: have you done?
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: What could you do better?
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: And everyone else looked inside except for Dylan and Kaita.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: And the end, so Zach and Kenzie actually looked eternally.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: The other two started pointing the fingers.
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  Speaker 3: All right, when we.
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: Come back, we're gonna talk about Melanie and Sincere, because
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  Speaker 4: boy did they have a conversation that threw us for
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: a loop. And welcome back everyone to our Love Island edition.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: If Amy and TJ we're talking about episode thirty, we
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: could also just call this Spiral Island. After the Islanders
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: heard from America and what they think about their compatibility,
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: you had Casey and TT going whoop whoop.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: And I actually was loving it.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: They were so excited and so surprised because they assumed
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: America hated them, and it was kind of cool to
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: see that actually they had some support. That moment, I think,
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: actually I relate to them because we know what it
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: feels like to suddenly feel like maybe the world's against you,
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: or the people aren't rooting for you, or they are
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: against your love or against your relationship, but you know
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: what it is.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: And then suddenly that.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Moment when you think, holy hell, people might actually support us,
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: people might actually get us, and like us and see
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: what we have and respect it. And I loved seeing
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: that epiphany from them. I thought that was fun to watch.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: Brinnandy already knew that they were everybody's favorite.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Just need to wait everybody else exactly. Oh yeah.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: Kata also threw shade at Carl and Anaya too, and
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: she kept saying, I like an eye and I like Carl,
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: but come on, like she dumped him and left him.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: Like she was really just she threw them up the
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: bus two.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: I forgot about that. Now let's talk about Melanie and Sincere.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Because Melanie, now basically because she was in the top four,
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: was Sincere.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: I feel like she feels like she's been.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: Given permission by America love him again, to let him
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: back in. She kissed him again, and then from that
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: moment on, she has now completely and totally just given
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: herself back over to him. And now Sincere is taking
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: that and running with it. I couldn't believe what he
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: said to her.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Pip squeak five down. Come on, man, where did that
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: come from? Where did that come from?
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: He started talking about after the villa, which is what
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: we're hearing a lot of couples talk about. But man, fine,
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: this is what he how he gets himself into trouble.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: He over promises he loved bombs. You want to know
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: what love bombing is. You always ask me what love
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: bombing is.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Exhibit A.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Sincere is saying, yes, I want when we leave this villa,
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: see I see myself being your boyfriend. I see us
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: being boyfriend and girlfriend. Cool, dude, stop there, he doesn't good.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: In fact, I can see you. I want you to
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: be my wife. I want you to have kids with you.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: He he went from when we leave the villa, I
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: could see us being boyfriend and girlfriend too.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I want to marry you. I want to have children
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: with you. I want to grow old with you.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: And she just ate it up, the smile from ear
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: to ear, and Yes, I wanted to look at that
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: as a beautiful moment where Melanie finally got to hear
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: everything she's been waiting.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: For, except for we all know there's no truth to it,
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: and he's doing it exactly.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: He maybe he meant it.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: He wants the option for all of that to happen,
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: and he thinks it could happen, and he thinks it
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: might be nice if it did, but he can't actually
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: with any real sense, of truth in the reality of
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: the world, mean what he says. He can't have enough.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: He doesn't have enough experience with her to mean what
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: he says.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: It might be in his heart. Maybe guy caught up
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: in a moment. I want to err on the side
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: of it being sincere.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: I don't, lol, that is love bombing, because it's too
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: soon for him to be able to say that, and
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: to tell her that gives her a false impression and
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: a false expectation.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: And I don't think it was kind given everything. But
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: can he just be caught and went through how many
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: moments is he going to get caught up in? How
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: many different women?
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: But that was a big one, caught up in the moment.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: But broad we couldn't believe.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I don't Maybe we did rewind we couldn't believe with her.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: We looked at each other. Did he just two weeks ago?
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: He's telling Amura, if I just had a little more
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: time with you, I would.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Have picked you. Why you're always in the past, because
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: it's a predictor of the future.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Oftentimes, at least it can be and should be taken
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: into consideration.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that was about, But to your
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: we were just talking about how Dylan and Caita right,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: they're spiraling because of the vote and they're questioning their relationship.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: The exact opposite.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: For Melanie, it was a confirmation because she was put
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: in the top they were put in the top four.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: So she's thinking, Okay, America must see something that I don't.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: America must believe in US. America must believe in Sincere,
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: and if they are giving us their vote, then I
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: should also let my guard back down and bring him
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: back into my heart.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Woof wish we could slat a note to her.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: I know I feel bad, no Sincere and can you imagine? Look,
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: just this is just a little indication these folks spiraled
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: that much about a vote. They don't know the context,
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: They don't even know exactly where they were ranked.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: These poor people. I really this.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Is not be me being patronizing at all. We know
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: what it's like to have a bunch of shit said
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: about you online that's either not true or unfair or
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: just mean.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: And these people are all going to.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Get out of that villa here in a matter of
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: days and they're going to read it all and it's
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: going to be really, really hard, because when you believe
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: the good things, you also believe the bad things, And
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: it's just there's so much being said about all of
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: these folks. Do I do worry about some of their
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: mental health literally coming out of here.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know some of them.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: We always say this or they very young folks, and yes,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: some are emotionally immature times, which is understandable we all
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: were at that age. But just to have the capacity
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: to deal with it rose as young folks coming out
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: of there trying to have relationships in public.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they have some feelings for each other.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Are those things strong enough to survive what they're about
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: to see?
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: It will break some and it might make some, certainly
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: when you are trauma bonded, which they will be.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's no question.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: And there's some pie.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Guess they've some come out and had fun and just
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: had a good time, So maybe there's opportunity that waits
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: Gaul was sitting there on the couch laughing his butt
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: off the entire time, and he's probably loving all the
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: new traffic foot traffic in his coffee shop there in
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: LA which has been much written about. So there are
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: some silver linings for everyone, and hopefully they can each
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: find it.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Either on their own or together. But yeah, this was.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: An interesting, interesting episode, and yes there's another one tonight.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: Can't wait for it. Hope you'll be watching too. Thanks
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: for listening to us everyone. I'm Amy Roboch alongside DJ Holmes.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Will talk to you soon.