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The Way Home S4E4 · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark, a Hallmark review podcast. I'm Megan,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm a longtime Hallmark fan.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Wendy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a former Hallmark hater. On today's episode, we are
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  Speaker 1: discussing The Way Home Season four, episode four, titled We've
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  Speaker 1: Got Tonight, which originally aired on the Hallmark Channel on Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: May tenth, and is currently available to stream on Hallmark Plus.
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  Speaker 1: One of our favorite things about the Way Home are
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  Speaker 1: your listener emails and voicemails, which you can send to
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  Speaker 1: zero nine zero and come back on Friday for all
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts on.
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  Speaker 2: This week's episode.
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  Speaker 1: I think we have a lot to talk about in
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  Speaker 1: this episode, so why don't we kick it off with
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  Speaker 1: a synopsis. When Nick arrives back in Port Haven, Dell
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  Speaker 1: throws a party like old times. Alice has to keep
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  Speaker 1: her distance from young Colton and Dell, but tries to
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  Speaker 1: learn more.
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  Speaker 2: Dun, Dun, Dun.
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  Speaker 1: The title of this episode is We've Got Tonight. Do
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  Speaker 1: you know that song?
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  Speaker 2: We've got some? Probably come on?
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  Speaker 1: Really? Yeah, I know the Kenny Rodgers version. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I grew up listening to this music, so.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's a good song. Yeah, it's a.
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  Speaker 1: Really good song. And then this episode had another really
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  Speaker 1: good song in it too, when Dale's dancing in our
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  Speaker 1: kitchen to it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, dancing in the moon.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good song too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And we heard that song in another era too, did we. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Dell was listening to like the recorded version in present day.
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  Speaker 1: And then we get the flashback to the seventies. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: the kitchen party. Colton's playing in the kitchen party. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: We've got tonight. The original was released by Bob Seeker
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy eight. The Kenny Rodgers version came out
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  Speaker 1: a night teen eighty three. Both of those dates are
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  Speaker 1: significant for us here on The Way Home, so we
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  Speaker 1: shall see very interesting. I'm sure there is a connection.
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  Speaker 1: It's no coincidence here. Hey, what is your first impression
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  Speaker 1: of The Way Home? Episode four, Season four? We wanted
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  Speaker 1: Thomas back, and the writers technically complied, Yeah, were you
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  Speaker 1: disappointed that he's not corporeal? Yes? Yeah, he's a figment
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  Speaker 1: of poor Jacob's imagination. I thought it was really freaking
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  Speaker 1: cool though, how they did it? Yes, what's your first impression?
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  Speaker 1: My first impression is I'm getting a little too much
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  Speaker 1: of everything I love about this show right now, stuck
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  Speaker 1: in mysteries on mysteries and waiting for literally even one answer.
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  Speaker 1: These are things you love like, it's doing too much.
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  Speaker 2: It's doing too much. I agree.
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  Speaker 1: I texted you, we're all watching this, yeah, and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I feel dot dot dot annoyed. There's so
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  Speaker 1: many things happening in this episode, and as much as
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  Speaker 1: I love this show, I was like, are we like.
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  Speaker 2: Have we gone way too what?
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  Speaker 1: What? Well? And we'll talk about one of the biggest
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  Speaker 1: conundrums of this episode poses but I had to literally
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  Speaker 1: lay down with my eyes closed and try and puzzle
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  Speaker 1: it out. So let's get into this episode. Okay, what
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  Speaker 1: do you want to start with? Gonna start with Jacob
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  Speaker 1: in Toronto? Since we talked about Thomas, sure, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we get to see Jacob at his little bar in Toronto.
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  Speaker 1: For a brief second. It was giving ripple, Oh for sure.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think about that woman and man who
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  Speaker 1: come in in the beginning. The man's like such a
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  Speaker 1: blowhart and the woman's like, we'll see later, old soul.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a reason for sure. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what it is. And of course, when I watch this show,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, is that Claire? Is that Tessa? Is?
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  Speaker 1: Like I just want to watch it and enjoy it
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  Speaker 1: and not try to figure it out.
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  Speaker 2: Could this person be somebody?
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  Speaker 1: Sure? Could it just be a beautiful woman who was
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  Speaker 1: attracted to Jacob?
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  Speaker 3: Sure?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think Jacob has a hard time envisioning his future.
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  Speaker 1: Jacob's stuck in his head, and I don't think he
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  Speaker 1: can envision like the right way forward for himself. So
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking, maybe that's just hinting at like Jacob
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  Speaker 1: has a happy future with this woman. They made a
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  Speaker 1: connection when she first walked in. I thought, oh, they
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  Speaker 1: recognize each other.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, But then it.
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  Speaker 1: Just seems like maybe this was just an attractive woman
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  Speaker 1: that Jacob was noticing and she was noticing him, and
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  Speaker 1: they just had this connection, and she realized she was
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  Speaker 1: on a terrible blind date and she was looking for
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  Speaker 1: anything that would save her.
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  Speaker 2: So I think you're right.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think anything is coincidental, and they could have
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  Speaker 1: done the you know, we don't do a sprescial Martini
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  Speaker 1: stick in any other number of ways without introducing this woman,
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  Speaker 1: right exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, the big.
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  Speaker 1: Thing happening with Jacob is that he is being visited
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  Speaker 1: by this spirit of Thomas. I don't take it as that.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's his conscious Well, yes, I agree with you. Yesay,
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  Speaker 1: like we're not actually getting like ghost Thomas. No no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: no no, no, you're right, it's like his little Jimminy cricket. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's really effective.
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  Speaker 1: I loved it because they need somebody for Jacob to
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  Speaker 1: kind of talk to bounce issues off of, right, and
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  Speaker 1: he literally has nobody in Toronto.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, and it's so much better that they.
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  Speaker 1: Have him like envisioning Thomas as this person, as opposed
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  Speaker 1: to him having these conversations with the bar manager, someone
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  Speaker 1: who's meaningless to us exactly. I'm kind of surprised that
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  Speaker 1: they didn't bring like Elijah back in this role.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they know what the viewers want.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying somebody listening to us. Sure,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's really cool. Like Honestly, when I saw
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  Speaker 1: Chris holden Reid, I was.
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  Speaker 2: Like what Yeah, and then like.
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  Speaker 1: When I realize the purpose, I was like, Okay, But
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  Speaker 1: I still it's very exciting that he's there. Obviously, what
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  Speaker 1: these two are talking about, I think is interesting to
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  Speaker 1: Jacob's storyline. You know, Jacob's trying to convince himself that
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  Speaker 1: the family is better off without him, and that's very
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  Speaker 1: much tied to like his trauma. And I like that
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  Speaker 1: Thomas is pushing back on that. He keeps forcing Jacob
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  Speaker 1: to confront these things. Leaving again might actually be hurting
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  Speaker 1: everyone more. Yes, and I think we see that. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to jump ahead a second towards the end of
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  Speaker 1: the episode, when Dell's having their kitchen party and the
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  Speaker 1: phone rings, it's very much season one Dell.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, when she.
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  Speaker 1: Runs back to the phone, it's Jacob. You know, she
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  Speaker 1: was just waiting for any information about Jacob. I liked
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  Speaker 1: this inclusion of Jacob in this episode. I like telling
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  Speaker 1: this storyline.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think it's a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Criminal that in episode two and three we really only
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  Speaker 1: saw him be.
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  Speaker 2: A text message. Yeah, that's my feeling on it.
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  Speaker 1: I agree.
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  Speaker 2: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Elliott going to bring Jacob home?
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  Speaker 2: I loved it.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, really tell me more. Elliott doesn't get a lot
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  Speaker 1: to do and a lot of our stories are told
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  Speaker 1: around Kat and Alice saving people in the past, rescuing Jacob,
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  Speaker 1: figuring out Susannah, helping her. Now we're going to deal
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  Speaker 1: with Tessa. Elliott finally has a tangible path forward that
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  Speaker 1: is helpful to Dell, helpful to Cat. It's something that
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  Speaker 1: he can do, he can take off on his own.
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  Speaker 1: It gives him a purpose. I think it's nice for
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  Speaker 1: Elliott to be the one to say to Jacob, you're wanted,
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  Speaker 1: because I think coming from Cat and Dell, it can
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  Speaker 1: maybe feel like an obligation, like, of course, your mom
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  Speaker 1: and your sister are going to say come home because
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  Speaker 1: we're worried about you, and they're going to put their
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  Speaker 1: feelings about you being home ahead of any trauma that
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  Speaker 1: Jacob feels like he's projecting on them. But I feel
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  Speaker 1: like it means more coming from Elliott well, and I
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  Speaker 1: think as if you were to have Elliott be the
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  Speaker 1: one person to go to Jacob. Obviously we know Jacob
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  Speaker 1: is not really in the know, but we know that
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  Speaker 1: Elliott feels disconnected from his own life or his family history.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he's going through all this stuff with his mom.
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  Speaker 1: Jacob's unaware of all that stuff. So so Elliott going
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  Speaker 1: to him and being like, hey, we want you or
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  Speaker 1: they want you to be there. It's poignant, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you saying that made me think of something else though.
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  Speaker 1: Kat and Alice are willing to jump in the pond
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  Speaker 1: and travel through time, but not willing to get on
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  Speaker 1: a plane. Kat just wants to text bombing, but she
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  Speaker 1: doesn't want.
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  Speaker 2: To text you. What's a power texting? Power text? I
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  Speaker 2: think that's kind of interesting.
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  Speaker 1: That is really interesting actually, because Kat definitely has the
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  Speaker 1: means to get on an airplane going to go try
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  Speaker 1: to find him. Sure, and once they found out, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if Elliott knew where he was, then so did everybody
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  Speaker 1: else at that point. So that's interesting, very interesting. You
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about Kat investigating old mister Grayson Goodwin
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  Speaker 1: and the Harald connection. She needs to dial it back.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so frustrated with Kat in this episode. Okay, here's
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  Speaker 1: my biggest beef right now. Okay, Kat has become a
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  Speaker 1: full time detective. Yeah, full time time traveling detective. It's
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  Speaker 1: starting to stress me out. In season four, it's finally
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  Speaker 1: starting to stress me out. It's like Hannah Swinson the
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  Speaker 1: Baker turn detective. Sure, it's like Kat, It's like it's
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  Speaker 1: so Hallmark. Every scene with her is she is chasing
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  Speaker 1: some clues.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta hope save this person.
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  Speaker 1: Jumping timelines, connecting conspiracies, digging through archives like she's trying to.
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  Speaker 2: Crack the case. There's no balance in her life at all.
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  Speaker 2: It is so hard to watch.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why I'm like, does she want to get
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  Speaker 1: married to Elliott right now? I know she's like, I
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  Speaker 1: want to ring, I want to get engaged, But I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: what is happening? Like You're just out in the world
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  Speaker 1: doing all these crazy things all the time as a
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  Speaker 1: parent getting ready to send my own child to college,
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  Speaker 1: Like why is none of that happening? Like Cat's nice,
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  Speaker 1: why are we not shopping for dorm room supplies and
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  Speaker 1: needed wuzoo? Fan? I can't help me, So.
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  Speaker 2: Get the one on the stand.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, it's so interesting.
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  Speaker 2: And then I wonder.
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  Speaker 1: I honestly laughed out loud when she's like, oh, I
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  Speaker 1: got to go to work at the Herald. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: you haven't been at work at the Herald in three years?
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  Speaker 2: Like well, and she's like, I think I'm gonna shut
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  Speaker 2: it down.
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  Speaker 1: And in that moment I was like, and all of
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  Speaker 1: God's people said, a men, because it is about time.
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  Speaker 2: She does not.
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  Speaker 1: Work there, and she's like, oh, well, the paper's not
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  Speaker 1: important to the town. Maybe it would be if you
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  Speaker 1: wrote it. Also, I'm just very curious. Is Kat single
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  Speaker 1: handedly responsible for writing the entire newspaper herself?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: That seems untenable. Is it even for someone who shows
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  Speaker 1: up to work every day? Is it like a printed newspaper?
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  Speaker 1: Like where is it getting printed at? Oh, she's not
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  Speaker 1: like printing it in her office there, but I mean
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  Speaker 1: it's all digital. They send it off, they print it,
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  Speaker 1: and they probably have like a third party distribution service.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Cat's responsible for like delivering it to
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  Speaker 1: the little grocery Storestann a bike.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, chous.
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  Speaker 1: It is weird though, like why is the show bringing
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  Speaker 1: this up now?
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  Speaker 2: Why why they didn't even.
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  Speaker 1: Have to mention her being at the Herald at all
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  Speaker 1: in this episode. They haven't talked about it in three years.
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  Speaker 1: Us as viewers have just been like, Okay, she has
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  Speaker 1: this show, but she doesn't really go there because her
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  Speaker 1: full time job is being a time traveling detective.
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  Speaker 2: So here's why I think they brought it up. I
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  Speaker 2: think two reasons.
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  Speaker 1: One, we all know that Evelyn's files are at the Herald,
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  Speaker 1: so she needed a reason to be going through those.
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  Speaker 3: Two.
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  Speaker 1: I do think we need to close the loop on
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  Speaker 1: the Herald. We've all been saying Kat's the worst employee
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  Speaker 1: of all time, and so while we know she works there,
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  Speaker 1: I think it is important that she decided I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Going to move on.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to write my novel or write a history
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  Speaker 1: of Port Haven. I think we needed that small little
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  Speaker 1: button on the Harold storyline. I would like to say
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  Speaker 1: something about the novel. Where did we hear someone saying
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: what if? Was it you who said what if? This
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  Speaker 1: entire series is Kat's novel? I mean, I hope I
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  Speaker 1: said it, because I love that idea, But I can't
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  Speaker 1: remember if I said it or not, or if I
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  Speaker 1: read it in an email. I don't remember. I don't
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  Speaker 1: remember either. But somebody had said what if? That's the conclusion?
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  Speaker 1: And I hate that. That's like the whole that's a
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  Speaker 1: cop out of an ending. I think they're like, none
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  Speaker 1: of it ever happened. This was a figment of cats
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  Speaker 1: and mel.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, we did talk about this.
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  Speaker 1: It's like lost right, right, right, Yeah, so I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But again, this episode is so frustrating because she she's
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  Speaker 1: investigating Grayson and she's like, oh, I found these this
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  Speaker 1: insignia on the bullet casing and it's the exact same
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  Speaker 1: as the insignia on Grayson in this photo that I
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  Speaker 1: took at the cabin and and now I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: go through Grayson's files. And Grayson had a sister who died.
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  Speaker 1: They look like the children who were in the White
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  Speaker 1: Witch mirror. And I'm like, oh my gosh, stop it.
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  Speaker 1: With the new information, we have to start closing threats.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I found that so frustrating. I hated, hated. Please don't
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: send your emails to me. I can be critical of
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: some things I didn't like in an episode, but I
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  Speaker 1: hated that she was like like, you said the insignia,
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  Speaker 1: and then this and that means this, and then that
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  Speaker 1: means this and this, and then I We're gonna this
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  Speaker 1: is it, and I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Like, stop it, stop it.
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  Speaker 1: I know I still enjoy this show, but I do
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  Speaker 1: feel like in some ways the writers have bitten off
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  Speaker 1: more than they can chew. And I hope I eat
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  Speaker 1: my words at the end and it's all very satisfactory,
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  Speaker 1: but we're at episode four and there's no answers at all,
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  Speaker 1: Like we're just more and we're just piling on information
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  Speaker 1: and it gets worse.
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  Speaker 2: I'm frustrated.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, me, she's irustrated, totally frustrated. But I can't help
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  Speaker 1: but think like Kat hasn't changed at all in four seasons.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think in terms of like she's never been
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  Speaker 1: able to find enough answers and she thinks she can
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  Speaker 1: fix everything. This has been her pattern since season one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: my win is enough enough? Agree, you know, I if
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't for the Alice is so much more thoughtful
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  Speaker 1: about her time traveling. Yes, yeah, and she says like.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I should go back. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: I go back.
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  Speaker 1: And when she does go back, it's in a very
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  Speaker 1: like lurking sort of way and very interesting. Yeah, really interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about Alice in the seventies. Okay, Like I mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: she goes back, but she doesn't interact with any of
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  Speaker 1: our main players, but she is. She's I feel like
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  Speaker 1: she's functioning like an the audience right now. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because she's just, like like you said, lurking, like she's
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  Speaker 1: observing everything and we The only interaction she has is
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: with Tessa, and basically she says, I kept your secret
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  Speaker 1: about stealing that money, you keep mine. Obviously, she witnesses
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: this kitchen party. Dell had told us in the present day, like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: they had these epic kitchen parties. And when she said
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  Speaker 1: like epic, I was picturing something more than this, I
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  Speaker 1: have to admit, like this place was like the place
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  Speaker 1: to be. And it's eight people in their kitchen playing guitar,
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  Speaker 1: eating food, drinking wine. I mean it's fun, looks like
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  Speaker 1: a good time. Yeah, I wouldn't want a big rager anyway.
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  Speaker 1: You know, epic means different things to sure.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it was memorable.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have an epic night, and I watching TV
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  Speaker 1: on my couch in Yeah, exactly with the heating pad. Obviously.
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  Speaker 1: The main thing that happens is this Tessa Fern blow up.
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  Speaker 1: Fern comes downstairs, she sees Tessa and she freaks out,
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  Speaker 1: You'll never be a Landry, And Colton's like, she's not
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  Speaker 1: going to be a Landry, She's going to be in Augustine,
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  Speaker 1: and Fern is like outside pacing. It's like the end
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  Speaker 1: is her beginning. In the beginning is her end the
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  Speaker 1: end is something like that. She's trying to puzzle it out.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: She can't figure out what's going on with Tessa. Obviously
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: this is happening happening parallel with with Kat in the twenties,
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  Speaker 1: trying to figure out how Fern knows Tessa and all
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  Speaker 1: of that. So we're trying to put these things together
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  Speaker 1: in two different timelines, and we obviously haven't figured out
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  Speaker 1: how Fern knows Tessa in the relationship, but Fern's not
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  Speaker 1: a big fan of Tessa, and Tessa at this point
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  Speaker 1: hasn't met Fern.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the.
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  Speaker 1: First time that she encounters and she certainly hasn't met
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  Speaker 1: young Fern at this point, right right, which Kat puzzles
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: together later in the episode. I want to talk about
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Tessa for a second. Yeah, I think that Tessa stuff
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: is the most compelling part that's coming out of the
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: seventy timeline.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Of course, we.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Learn some other details about Dellan Colton having a baby,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: and this is nineteen seventy nine, which does not line
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: up with Kat's actual birth year. We'll talk about it
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: in a second. But Tessa is deeply suspicious to me.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I like, why does she go to get that almanac
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: and look at the Jacob? Why does she get the almanac?
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Why does she have this weird conversation with Alice out front?
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: H it feels very much like Tessa. You feel like
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Tessa knows more than she lets on.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Sure, And then what I don't understand. If we're backing
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: up further, Tessa and Dick have this whole conversation outside
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: the landry house like, oh, You've been working so hard
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: for a year for this, and she wants friends that
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: feel like family and like it's all happening.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: What Because I have a.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Hard time believing that Dell and Colton wouldn't just be like, oh, hey,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: come hang out with us. Like why did tests I
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: have to work so hard to get so close to
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: these people over a whole year.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: If it's just like the history with like the Augustines
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: kind of being the odd man out and Vic wasn't
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: really in that circle after I don't buy that brother died.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I don't buy that because remember Colton sitting in the
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: diner and I'm like, hey, hey, buddy, come sit with us,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: and like Vic, sure, you know, took off, but I
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: don't think Colton and Dell would would hold Vic's feet
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: to the fire and be like, no, you can't be friends,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: but you can't sit with those, Sure, you can't be
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: friends with us. I don't know. I just the whole
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Tessa storyline is weird to me. It is she's weird
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a weird It was noted in our listener
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: mail bag that when Alice asks her you know where
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: she's from, what she's doing there, she's kind of cagy
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: about it, and there is something weird about her, like
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: otherworldly almost. I don't even know how to describe it.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: You mentioned Delle's pregnancy in this scene. It's cute because
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Evelyn doesn't say anything, but I think she suspects because
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: she hands Dell a glass of wine and then she
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: like watches Dell not drink it.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Earlier in the episode Present Day, Dell had said like, well, Kat,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: you were born in nineteen eighty two, so we knew
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Kat was born in nineteen eighty two. Once again, I
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: know I was wrong about how old she is, but also,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: this is nineteen seventy nine that Alice is visiting, and
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: obviously pregnancies are not three years long, so does she
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: have a miscarriage. That's the most likely assumption I think,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: other than like this is another baby that gets sent away,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: dropped through the pond.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: What No, I hope not. I hope not.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I mean I don't hope for the alternative either. While
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: watching this, I went is Colton the actual biological father
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: of cat Oh? Because Delle's says something like it was
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: very hard for them to get pregnant, right, and then
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: if she loses this pregnancy, then what like, is it
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: possible that Griffin is the father of Cabbet?
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I don't like that.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: I just put that in your back pocket, just put
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: that in my possible I just don't like it. Okay,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: let's talk present day kitchen party. Okay, first of all,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: can I before we get into the kitchen party for
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Nick's homecoming? Why is Nick coming back? He walks in
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: and I was like, ugh, I don't want anything to
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: do with Nick.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Still no Claire, Still no Claire.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I actually want to talk about Nick, like at the
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: end of our episode. Okay, but you know, don't want
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: to have this big line.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, since when is Dell Nick's biggest fan? Agreed?
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: She was so happy to see him, and I don't
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: think she had any negative feelings towards Nick, but I
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: just thought she greeted him like her long lost son.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: And then she's like, we got to have this homecoming.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, Delle really likes mister Julian here,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: and she's like, we gotta celebrate Nick coming back so
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I can get it on this milk toased biofather over here. Okay, Well,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: first of all, that introducing Julian feels very unnecessary to me.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a reason for it, but why are
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: we introducing another new character in episode four of the
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: final season. And I don't like And I think there's
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: more to it, but I don't like this triangle that
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: this love triangle that they have set up between Julian
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Salmon Dell. I do believe it's going to be less
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: about a love triangle and more of a storytelling tool
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: for Dell because episode this is where like my hairstep
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: on my neck a little bit, when Julian and Delle
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: have this conversation, like she wants to know how Julian
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: got to be where he is in his life, like
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: how did you become the Biodad to Nick blah blah
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: blah whatever. It's basically mentioned that there's this unconventional family
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: structure for them, right, And I was like, oh, this
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: is also happening concurrently about Dell's pregnancy timeline unfolding, And
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I was like, unconventional family structure. Could we be implying that,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: like Colton is not the father of Dell's kids?
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Here? Do you see what I'm no?
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I absolutely do, And I think that's an interesting parallel
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: that I absolutely hadn't pulled. I had other thoughts about
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Julian's presence, but yeah, that's a good point. I think
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: this episode wants us to start thinking about like family
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: lines and who belongs to who, and like how how
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: people got to be where they are. It's interesting because
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: we didn't need to have the mechanics of like how
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: did NA get here?
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Because it's not all.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: That uncommon that a saying Set's couple would turn to
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: a close friend of theirs and be like, hey, will
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: you be the biolog I don't think that's an uncommon
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: thing exactly, certainly not unheard of, so we didn't need it. Right,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: my feeling on Julian before now, I had a spinning,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: but was more that he was a vehicle to make
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Dell think more clearly about her relationship with Sam, and
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I actually kind of don't like it. I don't like
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Dell's reaction here we're talking about the kitchen party. But
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: if I can just talk about Dell and Sam here,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: they have that confrontation in the stables and Dell's like,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I'm not something to be taken for granted. Our relationship
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: is a gift. And I just thought, like, when Julian says,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: you guys seem very comfortable, she takes that as a
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: slight totally, And I think, Okay, I don't see Sam
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: taking advantage of Dell at all or taking her for granted.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I should say, like he seems all in on their relationship.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: To me, it just seems like a convenient excuse for Dell,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: who isn't quite ready to commit to Sam for whatever reason,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: for her to be like, oh, you take us for granted,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: we're too comfortable. I feel like, if I am the
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: grandmother of a child going to college, the best I
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: can ask for is a relationship that I'm comfortable in totally,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Like that seems like a dream if you're just like
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: we're cool man totally. Well, I yeah, I was like,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: why is Dale getting so like offended?
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Like they just seemed maybe she's just.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: So overwhelmed by Sam wanting her to move in and
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: at the beginning of the episode that she's like, I'm
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: not ready to talk about that.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I need to table that. And I like a lot
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: of change is coming for her.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I get that, like she is finally going to be alone,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: and I think it's perfectly reasonable for her to say, like, look,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: not finally, because she was alone for a long time.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Sure I heard of them, but there's a lot of change.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I think it's fine for her to say, like I
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: need to process my grandchild moving away, my daughter moving
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: in with her future husband, let me figure out where
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I am before we move in together. But throwing this
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: bomb in her relationship I thought was unnecessary and a
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: little She's like Jacob in this moment, a little self destructive. Yeah,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: for sure, for sure. Also at that kitchen party, Julian
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: recites a passage from The Tempest. Yes, I have never
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: read The Tempest, but I googled its significance because that's
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: what I did. Now the AI overview on Google. I'm
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: admitting this is as far as I went. Okay, y'all,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: because this show's doing a lot. The speaker in this
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: passage is Prospero, reflecting on the impermanence of existence, and
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: it says it highlights the intersection of illusion, reality and mortality.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Oh interesting, very interesting. Do I know what that means
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: at this point?
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: No? I do not. Are we going to come back
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: around to it? Sure as hell helps? So what are
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: your thoughts?
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: I mean I was googling as well. M hmm.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Like you can't throw like Shakespeare into like a I
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: mean you can, but I just need a I just
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: need some context, like hit me over the head with
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: it a little bit more sure?
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: What is the theme here? What are you trying to say?
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Give me a little exposition where Kat's like, oh, that's
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: so interesting because exactly exactly. I'm sure they're smarter viewers
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: out there who got the reference. Why is Julian bumping
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: on the snapdragons? What the hell is going on there? Yeah?
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: The Other thing about the Kitchen party is Alice comes
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: home from her nineteen seventy nine travel and she's not
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: wet FYI either. Oh look at that, And she's like, no,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I want to sing for you, Dell, because she's heartbroken
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: knowing that something's gonna happen with this pregnancy that she's
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: just seen in nineteen seventy nine. And of course it's
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: she's hands Elliott some sheet music on her phone and
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: it's the same song Coulton was singing at the nineteen
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: seventies kitchen party. Doll gets emotional, and this is when
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: we get our phone call from.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Jacob del Say's I almost had it.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, these people are dealing with so much trauma,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: but you can't go to a therapist and talk about
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: time travel. You know. I had a question, there's so
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: much like I'm no fun. First of all, let's establish
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: that if we haven't already. But they're singing like these
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: old timey songs that I is not realistic.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Five one in four came out. Yeah, why are they
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: singing that?
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's relevant to our show, but
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: wouldn't you be like doing your best Kendrick Lamar or
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: something like that, busting out your Britney spears moment.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I just yeah, but again they needed the rights.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I was like, what why are we
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: singing these songs? Like? It just seems so weird to
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: me in different time eras you know. Well, I'm sure
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: there's like some California songs that are relevant to where
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I live, but we don't gather around the kitchen and
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: sing them. You know.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: It just is weird. It's not a third grade play
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: about your community.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's what it's giving, exact that a walk through
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: port Heavens.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Yet you know, oh man, if you know you know, oh.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: My goodness, Okay, let's talk for An and Cat in
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: nineteen twenty nine, okay, or actually, my bad, I don't
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: know if it's nineteen twenty five. Yeah, for An in
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Cat in nineteen twenty five.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be honest.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: It's this is the one storyline that's losing me a
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: little bit.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I like the idea of Fern.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: She's an unreliable narrator, so I don't I'm like, I
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: trust you, what's going on with you?
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: But here's my criticism is that in the nineteen twenty
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: scenes they veer almost into everyone is talking like a
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: caricature of an old movie, especially Fern, especially Fern, and
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: then Cliff kind of does it too.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Like all the scenes with Cliff are like Humphrey booger.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I know this is probably a wrong reference. I know
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: what you mean, but it's very much like a little
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: tib of the hat and it like looks black and white.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Might as well have a cigar hanging out the corner
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: of his mouth.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just like, what I don't these feel corny
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: to me a little bit. And when we have a
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: show that feels grounded, it's a time travel show, Like
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: those scenes feel rounded to me compared to like these
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: nineteen twenty scenes feel like a I'm watching an old movie. Yeah,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I agree with you, because there's something about the vehicle
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: through which they time travel being the pond and not
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: some actual like science fiction situation. Because when Nick's like
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I get to go in the time machine, right, oh
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: my god, which Nick, it dies annoying.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: But you're right that usually, like when we're in.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: The nineties or we're in the seventies, there's nothing about
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: that that feels like back to the future. Martin McFly, Yeah,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: pump up sneakers. This scene, Cliff gives this monologue about
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: like it's all about the money and all we do
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: is arrest people and let them go, and it's just
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: I was like, what's going on there, and then Tessa
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: comes in and she's like, I gotta save my girl, Cat,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: and I put you in jail to save you from
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: the Augi brothers.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: They're they're coming to get you. What Yeah? What yeah,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: big old question mark?
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: What? M M yeah, I agree. I had a feeling. Well,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: obviously I thought Fern was the one who drugged her,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: and I had a feeling it was under the guise
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: of protecting her. Sure, but give us some more reason.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Why would the Augi brothers be after Kat? Like she
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: just says this stuff to Kat and Kat doesn't say why,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Like what is it about me that they would come
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: after me? Right? Like we're not getting there, like, but
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: then Kat's like trying to put all these pieces together
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: and like not real not asking the right questions?
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Correct?
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Can I Can I talk about Nick for another minute?
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Please do?
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Why is he so invested? I'm getting red flax from Nick? Oh.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: I just think he wants to be included, but maybe
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I should be getting I think he's just like I
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: want to be part of the Scooby Gang, which I'm like,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: go away. First of all, like this is like a
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: generational family secret that they've let you in on, which
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: is a big mistake in my opinion. Nobody else knows
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: about it except for Nick. Yeah, well and Elliott. But
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Nick come on and every time like he comes into
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: a scene, He's like, what's going on, give me the tea,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: what's the latest, tell me what you found out. I'm like, dude,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: you're asking too many questions, like just chill. And then
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: at the end, what is Kat thinking she's gonna bring
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Nick with her in the pond?
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Well, he's disposable. Yikes. I think that's why. Oh my god,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: how do you explain that Nick just goes missing?
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Like he gets trapped in a time. You know, you
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: have an invisible fiance who's gonna miss him? I think
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: she takes a Jolie's disposable because Alice wants to go
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: and Kat's like no, it's it's too dangerous. And so
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Nick's like I'll go, and Kat's like, all right, Elliot's gone.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: She needs someone to go with her, and I think
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: she's willing to risk Nick. Why does Nick need to
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: go with her for protection? I mean that's the way
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: he sold it. I know, I'm been a bosin, I
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: know how to be a whatever. I'm like, what he's
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: a what he said he was a bosin on a
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: boat girl, Oh oh, watching a bolow deck.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, I heard. I don't You're right, but I.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Just think it's so weird. And when he was being
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: so goofy about like I get to go on the
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: toy machine, I'm like, nope, nope, I don't know.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: I hate Nick. I don't hate him.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I just I think he's just kind of this like
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: clown a little bit. I hate the character they made
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: him as an adult because I thought he was so
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: charming as a teenager and they turned him into this
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: buffoon in adulthood, like he could still be a little
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: free wheeling kind of you know, I travel on a boat,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I work on a boat.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: You know, my life is fluid kind.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Of guy without being a doofis Yeah, I agree. Let's
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: talk about this final element of this show. Okay, So
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: while Alice is in nineteen seventy nine, she sees Tessa
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: get the almanac and she's asking about this entry about
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Jacob Junior. Cat and Alice are looking at it, and
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Kat's like, wait a minute, that handwriting familiar? Come on,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Like that looks like the handwriting in Tessa's letter. Give
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: me a break. They run to Elliott's house. They're comparing them,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: they're the same. This is when Nick shows up and
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: they're trying to figure out where Tessa has been. The
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: only reason I'm going through this is I feel like
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: we need to talk about the details.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: What they believed happened is Tessa jumped back to eighteen
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: eighty two with Griffin, and Tessa stayed for whatever reason,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: and they believe that Griffin came back.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Now, they don't go fully into.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Detail here, but what I think they think happened is
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Griffin came back with the intent to go back and
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: get her, and then time passed and he couldn't because
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: he wasn't able to bring her forward in time. And
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Kat says, Tessa has been waiting forty three years for
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: someone from her timeline to bring her home.
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  Speaker 2: How do they get to forty three years?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, because that's when they left Eliott got it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, eighteen eighty two to eighty two to twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's the forty three ers. This is what doesn't
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  Speaker 1: make sense to me. I kind of had my brain
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  Speaker 1: wrapped around. Okay, Tessa and Griffin jump, Griffin comes back,
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  Speaker 1: Griffin tries to jump back, but he's not able to
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  Speaker 1: bring her forward because now he's from the future, which
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, if like if time passes for Griffin,
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  Speaker 1: but he still somehow managed just to jump back to
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  Speaker 1: like eighteen eighty two and that time hasn't passed for
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Tessa and now he's from the future and he can't
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  Speaker 1: bring her back. Okay, I kind of understand that. Nevertheless,
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  Speaker 1: Griffin and Tessa are in theory from the same timeline
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  Speaker 1: like they were their normal age in nineteen eighty three
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  Speaker 1: when they left. Kat is also from that timeline, Like,
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  Speaker 1: how is Kat more from that timeline than Griffin is?
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Please email me and talk to me like I am
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  Speaker 1: five years old. I do not understand. That's why I
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  Speaker 1: don't understand how Cat would be able to bring her back.
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  Speaker 2: Agree.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if somebody is on the pulse here and can
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  Speaker 1: make it make sense, please email us. Yeah, how can
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  Speaker 1: Cat bring her back but Griffin can't. It's some weird
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  Speaker 1: time travel loophole that I do not understand. Me and
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  Speaker 1: neither Yeah, I don't understand it. I'm sorry. I tried,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: but I don't. Oh, we had to talk about one
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: more thing go ahead the end of the episode, but Wars,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: we see Dell's out on Stormy. I was like the
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: freaking horse again. She sees someone who she thinks looks
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: like Colton walking by the Big Boulder onto the path
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: towards the pond, and then she tries to get Stormy
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  Speaker 1: to go down that path. And we all know from
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: the last episode that Stormy is very reluctant, and we
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: don't know why Dell was giving pull that bus over
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: energy here. I'm like, get off the horse and run
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: in there, Like, who cares if the horse won't ride
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: in there?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't be that fass in front of you.
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  Speaker 3: Uh huh.
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  Speaker 1: The person was walking slowly, so Stormy bucks Dell off
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: the horse, and the end of the episode ends with
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Dell laying there on the ground.
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  Speaker 2: Is she good? No?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 1: Semi conscious. When they were showing that shot of the
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: leaves overhead, I was like, someone's gonna lean over and
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be like Sam maybe yeah. Because the way
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: it's edited is it seems like this is just after
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  Speaker 1: Kat and Nick have jumped. We don't know that that's
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: the case, but because Dell's right in the same location,
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  Speaker 1: it seems to me like it is.
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  Speaker 2: And then we see someone walking in? Is it Sam
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: walking in to have followed them to see what they're doing?
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  Speaker 2: It's certainly not Colton. No, Colton is dead. Colton is dead.
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  Speaker 1: So and I was kind of annoyed that Dell had
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  Speaker 1: like a, why would you think it's Colton? Yeah, I
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: don't know. Like I thought we were okay, Yeah, I
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: thought we were done seeing Colton everywhere. And to me,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: it looked like seventies Colton, Like it was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it was like a I mean, it couldn't.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, unless Colton's got the market cornered on the flannel,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: you know, wasn't he wearing like a barn jacket? Yeah,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: sort of, but I thought it was like flannel pattern whatever,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. I don't know why she thought it
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: would be him though he's dead. Well, if you're turning
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: to this episode for more answers than you got while
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: watching this, I'm sorry, but we're all in the.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Dark hair totally.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Should we go through our I mean, I have new
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: questions posed by this, but did we get we didn't
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: get any answers to our ongoing question.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Let me Grayson's deal with the men at the party.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: What's going on? There the object. We did answer our
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: question about what Alice finds in the tunnel. It is
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: a bullet case thing that was answered. How does Cliff
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: connect to the events around the explosion?
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Does Fern know Tessa? She reacted when Kat called her
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Tessa Cooper. Who's Fern's child's father. We do know that
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Grayson and Fern do not get married because Grayson marry
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: someone else based on his marriage certificate. What's the deal
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: with the mural at Lingermore? Will the pond ever take
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Elliott again? All of these remain unanswered. Tessa's bracelet, what's
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: going on there? We do not know who is the
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: person torn out of the photo with Tessa.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Who are the Augustine boys.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Trying to get rid of Tessa's Alice in Wonderland quotes
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: the torn pages and Alice's Alice in Wonderland. We did
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: find out who Spike's cats during so many questions, so
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: many questions, so many and I want to hear the
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: sherrys so email us at Hello at Girls Gone Hallmark
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: dot Com. Yeah, a couple of new questions raised by
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: this episode. Who did Grayson mary if not Fern? Fern
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: believes that Grayson's not the one run in this operation.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I think she's wrong. But what's the deal there? What
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: happened to Dallas in nineteen seventy nine? Pregnancy is for
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: a time traveler? I think is a question that we
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: haven't fully answered. I think the answer is no. She
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: just has all this knowledge of the time travelers. Why
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: wouldn't she be a time traveler? Though she's a landry
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: I know, but I think she wanted to be and
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: it never worked for her. Oh okay, all right, guys,
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