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- 0:08Good afternoon, it's Friday the 31st of October 2025, just after
- 0:121:00. Welcome to UK Call News.
- 0:14I'm your host Mike Robinson, my Co host in the studio today,
- 0:16Patrick Henningson. Welcome to the programme,
- 0:18Patrick. Great to be with you, Mike.
- 0:20And we're joined today by Mark Anderson, as usual on Friday.
- 0:23Now, later in the programme, we're going to be looking at the
- 0:25latest censorship news. We're going to be looking at
- 0:27Trump in Asia and his threats of nuclear proliferation and the
- 0:31latest on Russian oil sanctions. But we have to really begin
- 0:35today with the former Grand Old Duke of York, who as we know a
- 0:40couple of weeks ago was stripped of that title and has now been
- 0:43stripped of the princely title that he has.
- 0:47So if we put it on screen here, there is somehow from the grave,
- 0:53somebody whispering in his ear there.
- 0:56I'm not sure what's going on. But anyway, the royal family
- 0:59claims to have announced that Prince Andrew is no longer
- 1:01Prince Andrew. He's been stripped of his
- 1:03princely title and is now going to be known as Andrew
- 1:06Mountbatten Windsor. So let's see what the statement
- 1:10said. It's said that His Majesty has
- 1:13today initiated a formal process to remove the style title in
- 1:17honours of Prince Andrew. Prince Andrew will now be known
- 1:20as Andrew Mountbatten Windsor. His lease on Royal Lodge has the
- 1:24date provided him with legal protection to continue in
- 1:27residence. It went on to say sorry and
- 1:32formal notice has now been served to surrender the lease
- 1:35and he will move to alternative private accommodation, I believe
- 1:38to be paid for by the King personally.
- 1:41These censures are deemed necessary notwithstanding the
- 1:45fact that he continues to deny the allegations against them.
- 1:48Their Majesties wish to make it clear that their thoughts and
- 1:52utmost sympathies have been and will remain with the victims and
- 1:56survivors of all forms of abuse. And my question, Patrick, is
- 2:00really because I believe that when there's Full disclosure
- 2:04about the now King's previous relationship with Jimmy Savile,
- 2:08that we, you know, that that last paragraph of the statement
- 2:11might have some, you know, status or standing to it.
- 2:15But I I've absolutely questioned whether their first thoughts are
- 2:19with victims of abuse at all. That's Sir Jimmy Savile OBE
- 2:23absolutely order the British Empire.
- 2:25Was he not the same Jimmy Savile that was Prince Charles social
- 2:29secretary kept the diary for Prince at the time is the same.
- 2:33Savile as that headline in LBC that we just showed a second
- 2:37ago, we could put that back on screen, says Prince Charles beg
- 2:40Jimmy Salva for help with royal public relations, secret letters
- 2:43reveal so. They seem to be very close.
- 2:46They were, they were clearly very close and many, many
- 2:49questions about that relationship, which is never
- 2:51actually if they've never been answered.
- 2:53Charles is lucky he didn't have to give up his title and style
- 2:57back then back. Then indeed, but but look at it,
- 3:01it's the question is, well, first of all, we get before we
- 3:06get to the question, let's just point this out because strangely
- 3:08there's no announcement on the royal family website of this
- 3:12situation, no announcement there.
- 3:15No, no announcement on the on the ex profile that this has
- 3:19happened. So this this statement has been
- 3:21issued, I guess via the BBC primarily here, so nothing there
- 3:27at all. But lots of people in social
- 3:30media are calling this a scam because they're pointing out
- 3:33that there's been no act of Parliament or letter patent
- 3:35issued. But if we paid attention to what
- 3:39the statement said, it said that a formal process has been
- 3:42initiated. So we really have to wait and
- 3:44see what the mechanism for this is going to be at the end of the
- 3:46day. But my question, Patrick, is I
- 3:49think this is what we need to discuss now is why now?
- 3:51Why at this particular moment? Now, a couple of possibilities
- 3:54here. 1 is that this is an effort to draw a line under
- 3:58royal family connections to Epstein or Epstein however you
- 4:01pronounce his name. I see some people are starting
- 4:03to pronounce it the other way that now.
- 4:05But anyway, there's another possibility and that is that
- 4:08they're prepared to sacrifice the past in Andrew in order to
- 4:13keep pressure on the present. And by that I mean Donald Trump,
- 4:17because at least one commentator I heard talking about this this
- 4:20morning claimed to be proud to be British today because the
- 4:23royal family is cleaning house while the United States is in
- 4:26complete denial. So the question is, is this
- 4:28about Trump? If we just put that back on
- 4:30screen in the United States, the pressure on Trump is starting to
- 4:33build just at the right moment, apparently because this is a
- 4:37headline here. Cracks emerging in Republican
- 4:40loyalty to Trump as Epstein bomb is about to drop.
- 4:44And we've got more here. The Epstein curse continues to
- 4:48loom large from Spiegel International.
- 4:50They're they're reflecting the fact that this is starting to
- 4:52build in the United States. This is MSNBC, their
- 4:56commentator, Lawrence Trump is using the government shutdown to
- 5:00shut down the Epstein files. And so the question, Patrick,
- 5:03is, is this about Trump actually?
- 5:06And, and is it a coincidence this pressure is building up
- 5:11even higher than it has been in recent months over there, just
- 5:14at the time that this event happens over here?
- 5:16Well, I, I think it I think it really was even higher than it
- 5:20is now arguably in in June and July.
- 5:23And that's when the White House issued this and Pam Bondi, the
- 5:28attorney General issued this formal denial that this was even
- 5:30a scandal and there's no black book.
- 5:32And that's when Charlie Kirk and when came under significant
- 5:37pressure and other MAGA organisations came under
- 5:41pressure because there was a split, because Trump campaigned
- 5:44on the Epstein files, made it a big centrepiece that oh, we're
- 5:48going to release the files, my presidency is going to be
- 5:50transparent and all of a sudden you have a cover up basically,
- 5:54and then denials. And that caused a split and
- 5:57these MAGA organisations were haemorrhaging support and
- 6:01membership because of that. And that's one of the things
- 6:03that I think also forced Charlie Kirk into that sort of position
- 6:07where he was questioning this undying loyalty to Israel and
- 6:12not be able to question Israel because of Epstein, Epstein's
- 6:15connection with Israel. So I mean, so this has been
- 6:19building up for a while. It's it's it's been building up
- 6:21all summer, in fact. And now we have an opportunity
- 6:24where you have some contrast now between the British and the
- 6:28American side on this. OK.
- 6:31But since you bring the Israeli connections in here, we should
- 6:36it. I'm not ruling out the
- 6:37possibility that it could also be about former Israeli Prime
- 6:40Minister Ahud Barack. So we just put this on screen.
- 6:44Virginia Guthrie accused him of raping her and choking her on
- 6:48multiple occasions in court documents.
- 6:50Now, Barrack of course, denies these allegations.
- 6:53But obviously there's there's really connection here as well.
- 6:56And in fact, you know that there is a connection to just about
- 6:59the entire globalist billionaire class as far as I can see.
- 7:04And really so the question underlying all this, is this an
- 7:08attempt by the royal family to draw a line under it, or is it
- 7:11is it an attempt to divert from other things or is it an attempt
- 7:14to to put pressure on Trump? It may be all of.
- 7:17Those, it could be all of those. I mean, this isn't just any
- 7:19Israeli. That's Ehud Barack, former
- 7:22Israeli Prime Minister, former head of Israeli intelligence,
- 7:27pretty pretty central figure there and best friends with Jeff
- 7:30Epstein photographed coming out of his New York Manhattan
- 7:35mansion and so forth. So I mean, this is this is not
- 7:38just anybody. So that's why I think they're
- 7:41potentially explosive there on that side at the time when
- 7:45support for Israel's is haemorrhaging in the in America,
- 7:49I think among Democrats, support for Israel's polling and single
- 7:53digits, single digits, when has that ever happened in the United
- 7:58States? Good.
- 7:58Question. Yeah, OK, well, look, let's
- 8:01welcome Mark to the programme. And Mark, let's come back on to
- 8:06the issue of of Venezuela. G'day, gentlemen and viewers.
- 8:13Yeah, the, of course, the mainstream press organs have
- 8:17been ablaze with headlines about a major troop, troop build up in
- 8:21the lower Caribbean area. And that would involve, of
- 8:25course, turning up the heat against Venezuela, against that
- 8:29regime, as Trump calls them. And I was looking through
- 8:32various sources trying to find something pretty objective and
- 8:36not go to the New York Times and not go to the Pentagon or
- 8:39whatever. And the this slide shows the
- 8:41University of Southern California Dornsyth, one of
- 8:45their more active branches in the USC system, the College of
- 8:48Arts and Letters and Jeffrey Fields October 29 published this
- 8:52article entitled Trump's anti Venezuela actions lack strategy,
- 8:57lack justifiable targets and lack legal authorization.
- 9:02President Trump okayed a naval build up in the Caribbean,
- 9:05strikes on boats in international waters and covert
- 9:09OPS in Venezuela, says Jeffrey. Without a discernible strategy
- 9:13or objective, of course the president and the the military
- 9:16is not going to always announce its objectives and strategies or
- 9:20they're going to give you a wag the dog type scenarios.
- 9:23But nevertheless, some pretty strong points being made by
- 9:27that, by that source. And that source added the
- 9:29following, stressing that there's no evidence, the Trump
- 9:33administration claimed without evidence that the boats were
- 9:36carrying illegal drugs. 14 boats that the administration alleged
- 9:39were being operated by drug traffickers have been struck,
- 9:43reportedly killing 43 people. On 24 October, the
- 9:46administration, Trump administration began A
- 9:49substantial military buildup in that region.
- 9:51The Pentagon moved the aircraft carrier Gerald Ford there and
- 9:55some of its strike group along with several other naval ships
- 9:59to that area and moved F35 fighter jets to Puerto Rico.
- 10:02And this is being called, get this, the largest US naval
- 10:06deployment in that area since the Cuban Missile crisis.
- 10:10So a very significant events going on there with lots of
- 10:13potential ramifications. But that's a pretty good account
- 10:17overall that is not partisan to outline what's going on there.
- 10:23Smart we were talking about on on Wednesday's programme,
- 10:27Patrick, of course the question of drugs is never too far away
- 10:32from this region and and the question of whether what this is
- 10:37really about. Is it about the oil in Venezuela
- 10:39or the rarest in Venezuela? Or is it about the fact that
- 10:43Chavez and and Maduro have been pushing back against the drug
- 10:46drug trade, which of course the United States Deep State has
- 10:50been deeply involved in for decades?
- 10:53Well, let's just go by what the what the president himself, what
- 10:57the administration is hanging this on and they're hanging the
- 11:00whole thing on allegations that Venezuela is a narco state.
- 11:05So, I mean, the more you dig into this, it's it's very, very
- 11:09much becoming like a WMDS in Iraq type rabbit hole where
- 11:14there's no actual evidence of the accusations being made.
- 11:17But let's look at the big picture.
- 11:19We'll bring this up on screen here.
- 11:21This is from the Washington Post.
- 11:22Trump merges the war on drugs with the War on Terror in the
- 11:26Venezuela showdown. Now, if you survey the US media,
- 11:30especially on the right wing side, there's all sorts of
- 11:33conspiracy theories. These are these are nothing new
- 11:36in the Newsmax and one American news in Fox world that somehow
- 11:40Hezbollah is working with the cartels.
- 11:42This is from like Marco Rubio himself working with the cartels
- 11:47to do what I don't know, ship drugs and ruin the lives of
- 11:50American teenagers. Who knows?
- 11:52But so, and Hamas has got sleeper cells in Mexico and al
- 11:56Qaeda and ISIS or have got sleeper sales in Mexico.
- 11:59They found a Quran somewhere in the desert by the Arizona
- 12:02border. This is normal sort of fodder.
- 12:05But Trump is basically formalising this year and they
- 12:08have a number of hacked journalists that are pushing
- 12:10this stuff out on social media and so forth.
- 12:14All these sleepers. Laura Loomer is one of them
- 12:17who's in this kind of an Israeli influencer, Israeli American or
- 12:21whatever. I'm not sure what where she
- 12:23where she's from or what her loyalty is, but nonetheless.
- 12:26So this is the narrative that they're they're they're bringing
- 12:28in here. So these are the two worst
- 12:30things of the Clinton administration and the and the
- 12:33Bush neocons, the War on Terror and the war on drugs.
- 12:36Trump has managed to put them together fantastic.
- 12:41So and, and behind him is in Marco Rubio, who seems to have
- 12:45his own personal vendetta against all Latin American
- 12:49governments that don't lean far right.
- 12:52And he's made it his career as a senator to sort of take the lead
- 12:56on that. Somehow he thinks it somehow he
- 12:58knows more than anybody about what where Latin America is,
- 13:01what it should be and how to bring down these governments.
- 13:03And then behind him is a Fox News weekend host named Pete
- 13:07Hegseth, who somehow gifted the head of the Defence Department.
- 13:11But that's the disturbing trend there.
- 13:14So let's let's go to this video here now on on the issue of the
- 13:20drug accusation, Mike, is is there any legs to that?
- 13:26Is there any legs to that? Let's listen to Trump and then
- 13:28let's listen to a 60 minutes report from 1993.
- 13:32Roll this. Why did you authorise the CIA to
- 13:36go into Venezuela? We have a lot of drugs coming in
- 13:39from Venezuela. A tonne of cocaine, pure cocaine
- 13:42worth hundreds of millions, is smuggled into the United States.
- 13:46Sound familiar? Not the way this tonne of
- 13:48cocaine got here. According to what the former
- 13:51head of the Drug Enforcement Administration told Mike
- 13:53Wallace, this drug shipment got here courtesy of what he calls
- 13:57drug trafficking by the CIA in partnership with the Venezuelan
- 14:01National Guard. Now we understand what you're
- 14:03saying. A tonne of cocaine was smuggled
- 14:05into the United States of America by the Venezuelan
- 14:10National Guard. Well, they in cooperation with
- 14:13the CIA. That's what that's exactly what
- 14:17appears to have happened. Until last month, Judge Robert
- 14:20Bonner was the head of the Drug Enforcement Administration, the
- 14:23DEA, and Judge Bonner explained to us that only the head of the
- 14:26DEA is authorised to approve the transportation of any illegal
- 14:31narcotics like cocaine into this country, even if the CIA is
- 14:35bringing it in. Let.
- 14:36Me put it this way, Mike, if this has not been approved by
- 14:39DEA or an appropriate law enforcement authority in the
- 14:41United States, then it's illegal.
- 14:44It's called drug trafficking. It's called drug smuggling.
- 14:47So what you're saying, in effect, is the CIA broke the
- 14:49law, Simple as that. I don't think there's any other
- 14:53way you can rationalise around it.
- 14:55Back in the 1980's, the CIA was mandated.
- 14:59So, Mike, so they're taking Colombian cocaine and
- 15:02trafficking it through Venezuela, and then the CIA and
- 15:06the DEA would then bring it into the United States and it would
- 15:09end up on the streets of America.
- 15:10That was in the early 90s. Now something happened in
- 15:13Venezuela. Hugo Chavez became president and
- 15:16that was the end of that. No more drug trafficking using
- 15:19the National Guard as mules for the Central Intelligence Agency
- 15:23in the DEA. So the biggest drug traffickers
- 15:26in the Western Hemisphere are the CIA and the DEA working in
- 15:30collaboration with the cartels. So where's Trump coming up with
- 15:33this? And we only have to look at the
- 15:35work of the Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Gary Webb,
- 15:39the late Gary Webb, the great Gary Webb over his Alliance
- 15:43series is historic. And this basically documents how
- 15:47the CIA brought crack cocaine onto the streets of Los Angeles
- 15:51and major U.S. cities. And then to to blame and
- 15:54demonise the African American community and also just to sort
- 15:58of destroy it ultimately. And so that was fleshed out in
- 16:03the 1990s. So I mean that it's interesting.
- 16:07There's a few other elements to this, I think, but that's,
- 16:10that's what happened. And Nicolas Maduro carries is on
- 16:13that same legacy of Chavez and if anything Venezuela is an anti
- 16:17narco state. So how on earth can any of these
- 16:20accusations stick without any evidence?
- 16:23That's the big question here. Just before you move on from
- 16:26Gary Webb, we should just remind everybody, of course he
- 16:30committed suicide and inverted commas by shooting himself twice
- 16:33in the head, which is. From behind with a shotgun
- 16:37something. Practically important.
- 16:38It was a handgun, but it was practical, A practical
- 16:40impossibility and if if not a total impossibility, And I'm
- 16:44just going to say that that in the months leading up to his
- 16:47death, I was on a mailing list that he was part of.
- 16:51And you know, obviously I never met him.
- 16:54I never spoke to him in person, but he did not seem to be at the
- 16:59point of suicide in any of the communications that I saw no
- 17:03with that group. No, and in the late Robert Perry
- 17:05also worked with him on on these same stories and Robert in
- 17:09effect was support supported in a bit of a mentor for him.
- 17:13Robert had told me that as well in an interview which we
- 17:16published before he passed away a few years ago.
- 17:20Right. The great Robert Perry,
- 17:21investigative journalist, founder of Consortium News, Yes.
- 17:25But let's look at look at this because here's where it gets
- 17:28interesting. So then it's not enough to
- 17:30demonise Venezuela. Trump is now imposing sanctions
- 17:34on Colombian President Petro or Gustavo Petro.
- 17:38Now, Colombia was the number one US ally, okay, 4th, 3rd or 4th
- 17:43largest recipient of U.S. military aid and but they had a
- 17:47right wing government and so obviously very friendly with
- 17:49Washington and very supportive. And there's another connection
- 17:54here, not just the United States.
- 17:55Why all of a sudden are they demonising Colombia?
- 17:59It's strange, but maybe not. Let's look at listen to this
- 18:02video very closely. This is President Petro at the
- 18:07UN General Assembly just last month.
- 18:10And this is what he said about a very close friend and ally of
- 18:13the United States. Go ahead and roll this.
- 18:16First and foremost, we need to stop the genocide in Gaza.
- 18:20Humanity cannot allow single day more of this genocide or for the
- 18:27genocidal Netanyahu and his allies in Europe and the United
- 18:32States to continue. The United Nations must uphold
- 18:37the decisions of the international Court of Justice.
- 18:41International law is the basis of civilization and united for
- 18:45peace for Palestine. We should establish A
- 18:48peacekeeping force to to protect where it's not.
- 18:52Not blue helmets. There's no what we need is a
- 18:55powerful army of countries that do not accept genocide.
- 19:00That is why I invite nations of the world and their peoples,
- 19:04more than most importantly as a integral part of humanity, to
- 19:10bring together weapons and armies and to defend Palestine.
- 19:18He's calling for more than peacekeepers there.
- 19:20He said no blue helmets. We need to bring armed forces in
- 19:23from other countries to defend Palestine.
- 19:25That's a bridge too far for for Israel.
- 19:28So they've clearly putting pressure on Washington to
- 19:32basically move on Colombia. I think this is a major issue
- 19:36and it I wonder why. What else about Colombia and
- 19:39Israel? There's some history there.
- 19:41Look at this. OK.
- 19:42There's a very good, very well researched article here by the
- 19:45way. Security and context.
- 19:47Colombia shifts everything. Military ties moving away from
- 19:50decades of Israeli sponsored violence in Colombia.
- 19:55What's this all about? What?
- 19:56What's Israel's business in Colombia for the last 25 years?
- 20:00Kind of interesting, isn't it? What were they doing there?
- 20:04It turns out Israel was selling loads of billions in fact, of
- 20:09weapons to Colombia. OK.
- 20:12And the other thing they were doing, they were training the
- 20:16radical far right paramilitary forces that were fighting the
- 20:19FARC in Colombia, OK, trained by the Israelis.
- 20:23And these were known as death squads, OK Didn't get a lot of
- 20:26bad press in America because they're allied with America at
- 20:29the time, right? So isn't that interesting?
- 20:32And there's other things, there's allegations potentially
- 20:34of Israeli military involved in, who knows, maybe some some of
- 20:38the drug trade, maybe some import export activity into the
- 20:42Middle East and Europe, who knows.
- 20:44There's a lot of accusations flying around on this.
- 20:46But Israel's deeply involved in Colombia, but not under Gustavo
- 20:51Petro, you see. So we see this split in policy
- 20:54and all of the sudden they're demonised.
- 20:56I find it to be more than a coincidence.
- 20:58And here is Venezuela, just to remind people on the Venezuelan
- 21:02side, Venezuelan president says Palestine is the most just cause
- 21:06for humanity. On the day of solidarity with
- 21:09Palestinian people, he's wearing the scarf there.
- 21:11That's Maduro. How many world leaders will wear
- 21:14a Palestinian scarf at a major state rally in Venezuela?
- 21:19This is normal. So this is another reason.
- 21:22So by the way, 2009, the first country to recognise a
- 21:26Palestinian state in the Western Hemisphere was Venezuela.
- 21:31So this is nothing new. It's it's been a tradition from
- 21:34Chavez all the way through to Maduro.
- 21:36So it's just funny that they're being singled out with all sorts
- 21:40of fake allegations of substantiated allegations of
- 21:43Venezuela being a narco state, when in fact, as we said, Mike,
- 21:48the biggest drug traffickers in the hemisphere are the DEA, the
- 21:52Drug Enforcement Agency of the United States and the CIA.
- 21:56Traditionally, that's documented fact, as we showed.
- 22:00OK, well, let's move on then to Donald Trump in Korea with
- 22:05President Xi Jinping. They've met in South Korea.
- 22:10Well, the question is what happened?
- 22:12Did did Trump Kiev again in terms of trade?
- 22:15Because the tariffs on China are now around 20%, which is lower
- 22:20than some of what the US calls their allies.
- 22:23In exchange for China buying soybeans, Trump got rid of the
- 22:28fentanyl tariff. He suspended the targeted
- 22:32sanctions on Chinese shipping. He suspended the BIS 50% rule
- 22:37targeting China, China's semiconductor companies.
- 22:40And this is a rule which says that if AUS subsidiary company
- 22:44is owned 50% or more by entities on the BIS entity list or
- 22:48military end user list. So in other words, Chinese
- 22:51companies, they own 50% or more of of the US subsidiary than
- 22:55those subsidiaries would be subjected to the same trade
- 22:58restrictions as the parent companies.
- 23:01In exchange for all this, then China will roll back rare earth
- 23:07export control imposed after the 6th of October.
- 23:11But any export control before October is still in place.
- 23:15So still no rare earths for the United States.
- 23:18But so I'm going to say thank you very much to Carl Zafra for
- 23:21that breakdown of what happened there.
- 23:24But anyway, the Dutch government is now going to feel very silly
- 23:29for this situation, this story. This is Nexperia, which is a, a,
- 23:34a semiconductor company and this was done on behalf of Trump's.
- 23:38Basically, the Dutch government took control of Nexperia from
- 23:42its Chinese owner, Wing Tech Technology on the 30th of
- 23:45September after the the Dutch arm claimed that the Chinese
- 23:50unit had supplied the They were not supposed to be supplying
- 23:55local customers in China with semiconductors, but they were.
- 23:59They were doing that and more to the point, the Dutch company.
- 24:03The Dutch company was stipulating that distributors
- 24:06would need to settled these deals in in dollars rather than
- 24:12one and and they were being settled in yuan.
- 24:15So anyway that this caused the Dutch government to step in and
- 24:18take over the thing. And well, the question is, are
- 24:22is China going to make an example out of out of the Dutch
- 24:25government or the Dutch for this?
- 24:27So with the Dutch are nationalising that.
- 24:30They effectively took control of it.
- 24:31Yes, that's exactly what the Germans are planning to do with
- 24:34Rosneft of affiliates in Germany nationalising.
- 24:39So it's taking these state assets of Russia and the private
- 24:42assets of Rastaf and nationalising under the German
- 24:46aegis. So not only did they take
- 24:48control of the company, they then tried to send diktats to
- 24:50the to the Chinese arm and and of course that just didn't fly.
- 24:54So and and then finally on this, of course, the question is that
- 24:59all the companies that changed supply chains and pulled out of
- 25:03China because of the previous or the trade regime up until just
- 25:08now, they're going to be losing money.
- 25:10As a result, so when Trump had his quote liberation day, right,
- 25:14a lot of people were like getting ahead of the game and
- 25:16thinking, well, we need to basically cut supply chains with
- 25:20these sort of hostile nations like China, right, and suit to
- 25:24great expense, right? And all of a sudden.
- 25:27It seems it seems to be back on again so.
- 25:29It's back on again, so they lost a lot of money.
- 25:31Yeah. So, I mean, who knows how this
- 25:33is going to turn out. The the problem is that no
- 25:35sooner had that meeting, you could look at the meeting in
- 25:38itself, in and of itself in a positive light.
- 25:40But no sooner at that meeting happened.
- 25:42And the next thing was Trump is saying, oh, well, China, China's
- 25:45rebuilding this nuclear building, a nuclear arsenal
- 25:47here. We've got to start testing
- 25:49nuclear weapons happens again. And Mark, I don't know what your
- 25:52thoughts are on that, but but Trump's, the independent was
- 25:56saying that Trump's comments on nuclear test testing up and
- 26:00decades of U.S. policy. What?
- 26:02What are your thoughts? Well, my initial thoughts and we
- 26:06can show that independent headline as I'm talking, my
- 26:09initial thoughts are of course Trump's comments in and of
- 26:13themselves are not going to up and anything actually changing
- 26:17U.S. policy and at least planning or carrying out renewed
- 26:21nuclear testing that would definitely upend decades of U.S.
- 26:24policy. This subhead in that story says
- 26:28Trump has suggested the US will restart nuclear weapons testing,
- 26:32a move again saying that they're saying that it up ends decades
- 26:35of American policy. It reminds me of Ronald Reagan
- 26:39who also was a peace through strength guy and there was a lot
- 26:42of Sabre rattling during his president presidency, but that's
- 26:45typically all it amounts to is Sabre rattling.
- 26:48At any rate, theatomicarchive.com turned out
- 26:53to be a pretty objective source on this, and I have a chart here
- 26:58that I found that puts things in pretty good perspective.
- 27:02There's been a total of 2056 nuclear tests since 1945, and
- 27:08the US has been responsible for about half of those.
- 27:11Or 1030 seven, 115 from Russia, the United Kingdom a mere 45.
- 27:17France 210. China also 45I3 and Pakistan 2
- 27:23and North Korea 6. And right around the early 90s,
- 27:29testing began to fall off a lot. And by the time you got to the
- 27:32early 2000s, there's no record of any known nuclear tests.
- 27:39But atomicarchive.com also had this to say.
- 27:41Just for clarification, since the first nuclear test explosion
- 27:45on 16 July 1945, of course that was the Trinity test by
- 27:49Oppenheimer, at least eight nations have detonated 2056
- 27:54nuclear test explosions at dozens of test sites, including
- 27:57Lapnor and China, the atolls of the Pacific.
- 28:00Lots of exposure to radiation, of course, in the Bikini Atoll,
- 28:05Nevada, Algeria, where French conducted its first nuclear
- 28:08device, A WA where the UK exploded nuclear weapons, and
- 28:13the southern Atlantic across Russia and elsewhere.
- 28:17And I remember during my nuke activist days, in my early
- 28:20journalist days, I was sort of a nuke activist.
- 28:23And there was a book that came out then when the US was doing
- 28:27open air testing. And the book was called The Day
- 28:29We Bombed Utah. And it spoke of nuclear fallout
- 28:34coming down on cities and towns in Utah and spikes in cases of
- 28:39cancer. And so the open air testing that
- 28:42the US did in the 50s was especially dangerous.
- 28:45And that's why they moved it underground.
- 28:47I think if memory serves, we have one more slide on this at
- 28:50any rate. And yes, no, I maybe we're done.
- 28:57At any rate, I think that's sufficient.
- 28:58But that's kind of a picture of who's been doing the testing and
- 29:02how many. And so it would be a very, you
- 29:06know, dramatic and sharp move to go back to that after all that's
- 29:11been done and after the relative lack now of testing ever since
- 29:15the early 2000s. So back to you guys.
- 29:17Yeah, absolutely. And and I mean the other thing
- 29:19to talk about here Mark is, is sorry Patrick, I'll bring you in
- 29:23at this point. The the removal of the
- 29:28withdrawal of various countries from non proliferation treaties.
- 29:31I mean 2002 the United States left the the ABM, the.
- 29:37Ballistic. Missile Treaty.
- 29:40And that was sort of seen as a trigger that started 20 years of
- 29:44erosion of nuclear arms control. 2018 Of course, Trump pulled out
- 29:48of the JCP away. And although that didn't
- 29:52directly cause Russia to suspend new starters CCTBT, it certainly
- 29:57contributed to that. But also opened up the door with
- 30:00aggression against Iran, which ended up with a war this past
- 30:03summer. Absolutely.
- 30:05And then of course, 2019 Internet Intermediate Range
- 30:08Nuclear Forces Treaty that the US withdrew from 2023 as Russia
- 30:14removed themselves from the New START and from the Comprehensive
- 30:17Nuclear Test Ban Treaty. And so, you know, this is this
- 30:21is a trend which has been developing for quite some time,
- 30:24but we're now starting to see us getting pretty close to pretty
- 30:27dangerous territory if we're starting to test again.
- 30:30Yeah. And by the way, Russia removing
- 30:31itself from those agreements, we're basically mirroring the
- 30:35United States, basically not not fulfilling their obligations.
- 30:40And Russia suspended its obligations, right.
- 30:42But it's obviously being spun in the media a certain way.
- 30:45But yeah. And the other thing is, by the
- 30:47way, we were talking about testing.
- 30:48So this is how Israel got around the issue of how does Israel
- 30:53with a secret nuclear arsenal, test its weapons?
- 30:56Well, the French did it for them in Bikini Atoll in the South
- 31:00Pacific and in the Saharan Desert in Algeria.
- 31:04That explains why the French number that Mark just showed was
- 31:07was quite as high as it was. Yeah, and we showed the data for
- 31:09that. Freddie Ponton, journalist from
- 31:12France, did a great job of breaking a lot of that down on
- 31:15on reports that we did on 21st Century Wire.
- 31:18But isn't that amazing how Israel managed to sidestep that
- 31:22huge problem is how do you test a secret nuclear arsenal?
- 31:26Well, let's just let's just look at this then, because the
- 31:29Telegraph a couple of days ago was reporting that Britain must
- 31:32look at sharing nuclear weapons with Germany to counter the
- 31:36critical threat posed by Russia, of course.
- 31:39And this is according to British defence chiefs.
- 31:42Now they're saying that that this includes, by the way,
- 31:47George Robertson, the former head of NATO, who was the man
- 31:51who's just written the defence review on behalf of the British,
- 31:54the Starmer regime. So, so they're they're basically
- 31:57saying that the UK needs to open talks with Berlin over what
- 32:01they're describing as a fresh defence pact.
- 32:04Germany, they say, is already in quote, strategic discussions
- 32:08with Paris over how the French could provide potential
- 32:11protection in in the form of its own nuclear deterrent.
- 32:14Mertz apparently is very keen to speak to Starmer about Britain
- 32:18getting involved in this as well.
- 32:20Now this is really important because of course we've been
- 32:22talking about the development of the European defence capability
- 32:25for a long time now. But the core of this has been
- 32:29the Franco British axis until more recently when Germany
- 32:33started joining that. So, you know, from a from a
- 32:36defence pushing a defence narrative, Britain and France
- 32:39have been pushing that. The political union narrative,
- 32:41of course, in the EU has mainly been France and Germany.
- 32:44So it makes sense to get everybody together.
- 32:46In an axis. In an axis, an axis of evil, I
- 32:49would even go as far as to say, but but this, this France,
- 32:54Britain, Germany axis is also expresses itself in the form of
- 32:59the E3, which is this grouping that's now sort of driving
- 33:02defence and foreign policy within the EU.
- 33:05So. But Britain of course left the
- 33:07EU so. You know, well, no, it's
- 33:10extraordinary. Well, not quite.
- 33:12But you know what's extraordinary about this is
- 33:14Frederick Mertz. Not very popular in Germany?
- 33:16Not very popular. It's debatable whether he will
- 33:19survive the next round of elections for his party of the
- 33:24Coalition, Macron. To say he's unpopular is a
- 33:27massive understatement, right? And then there's Keir Starmer.
- 33:31So you have 3 unpopular, hugely unpopular leaders that are
- 33:35ruling or governing by threads and they're doing this major
- 33:40paradigm shift in the European security architecture that is
- 33:44basically nuclear proliferation. Yeah.
- 33:46But we've always got to remember that this is not their policy.
- 33:49They're they're merely enacting it.
- 33:51This is this is a deep state policy that's been in operation
- 33:54for This is just the culmination of something that's been running
- 33:57for a long time. Sure it is, but still they're
- 33:59the ones who are going to basically put it in motion or
- 34:02sign for it on behalf of the electorate.
- 34:04Yeah, but we don't have any say no in any of that.
- 34:07And, and you know, for the, the US, this is not good news.
- 34:10If you don't want another nuclear variable in Europe,
- 34:13it's, it's enough. But in the Cold War, Mike, there
- 34:15was a balance in the bipolar distribution.
- 34:18There was a balance between the United States and the Soviet
- 34:21Union. It they sort of cancelled each
- 34:23other out in the old doctrine. But you add a third actor.
- 34:26Do you trust some of these European actors that they'll be
- 34:28rational? I don't trust some of the
- 34:30British actors that they'll be rational.
- 34:32They're insane. I don't necessarily trust the US
- 34:35under the current administration, but I do I trust
- 34:39the USA lot more because they have a a long pedigree, as do
- 34:42the Russians in having this kind of long standing count
- 34:47cancelling each other out bipolar arrangement.
- 34:51But Europe has a a great tradition in starting massive
- 34:54wars and basically trying to wipe each other out.
- 34:58This has happened a number of times in the last 150 years.
- 35:00So I mean, I'm just saying I'm a little sceptical.
- 35:03Absolutely. Now, sticking with defence, just
- 35:06briefly, what's going on with the media and and the Department
- 35:11of War in the United States? This this is from last week.
- 35:14OK, And this should really shock people.
- 35:18Journalists turn in their access badges and after a row with the
- 35:21Pentagon over new reporting rules, basically Pete Hagseth
- 35:25again, a Fox News weekend host that Trump gave or Israel told
- 35:31Trump to hire him as defence secretary.
- 35:33He's basically saying that all the media outlets have to run
- 35:36their reporting through his office for approval.
- 35:40So any reporting on the DoD, which is now called the
- 35:42Department of War, OK, has to run through the Pentagon's Sorry
- 35:48to. Say this again, but this is real
- 35:50Nazi Germany stuff. Yeah.
- 35:52I mean, if China does this, they'll say, oh, there's no
- 35:54transparency, It's not democratic.
- 35:56If Russia does it, they'd say the same thing.
- 35:58But in America, I mean, seriously, this is like going
- 36:02against the 1st Amendment. So again, this is a pattern of
- 36:05the Trump administration undermining the US Constitution,
- 36:08freedom of the press. And so let's take a closer look
- 36:11at that. Let's bring this up.
- 36:13So this is the response. So the war departments have
- 36:16replaced AP and obviously there's there's this is this is
- 36:20going into the courts, by the way.
- 36:22So this could change. But as of last week, the new
- 36:26media outlets for the Department of War were Lindell TV.
- 36:29That's Mike Lindell. He sells pillows and slippers on
- 36:33cable. The Gateway Pundit, not really
- 36:36the best website in terms of hard news and defence and
- 36:41geopolitics. The Post Millennial, they
- 36:43specialise in anti woke articles and going after trans and LGBT
- 36:48in Portland. That's their mainstay.
- 36:51What do they know about geopolitics and defence policy?
- 36:53Not much. Human Events.
- 36:55That's Jack Posobiak, that's MAGA.
- 36:58It's basically a MAGA website. And then the National Pulse,
- 37:00that's Raheem Kasim I think and again, very MAGA.
- 37:06OK, so I mean, are, are they going to be critical with
- 37:10anything the US is doing and starting wars around the world?
- 37:14Any of these MAGA outlets, websites, basically these are
- 37:17websites. So listen, the mainstream media,
- 37:20for all its faults, they do have people on staff who do this for
- 37:25a living their whole career. And if if if they are going to
- 37:28call out the US government or the president or something like
- 37:31that, or at least get accountability, there's a higher
- 37:34chance they'll be able to do it than the Gateway Pundit.
- 37:37So I'm just saying this is a really shocking development.
- 37:41And I think people should. But there was more.
- 37:44Oh, there's more. Sorry, there's one more.
- 37:46Let me see. There's another.
- 37:48Yeah. The list also includes Turning
- 37:50Point USA is media brand front lines.
- 37:52I never heard of that. Don't know what it is.
- 37:54Influencer Tim Pools, Tim Cast. That's a YouTube channel and the
- 37:59sub stack based newsletter called the Washington Reporter.
- 38:03These are guests are paragons of journalism.
- 38:06What can we say? Maybe, maybe we should apply for
- 38:10for a pass. I'm probably not going to get
- 38:11it. They don't like anybody who's
- 38:13critical of Trump, doesn't like any media outlets critical of
- 38:17him and will deny them access. So this is like what's going on?
- 38:21So pretty incredible. OK, OK, then let's keep an eye
- 38:25on that. OK, If you like what the UK
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- 38:46elsewhere. Now tonight at 7:00 PM, Charles
- 38:49and I, as usual, are speaking to Jerem for the Weekly Banter.
- 38:52Join us for that. And then at 9, Carl Zhao is
- 38:56speaking to Doctor Warwick Paul on the unravelling of Trump's
- 38:59trade war. And this is focusing on the
- 39:02Trump she visit. So have a look at that.
- 39:05At 9:00 PM tonight, a reminder of the interview between me and
- 39:10Jose Biomorgi, the Venezuelan ambassador to Lebanon and Syria
- 39:15yesterday that went out yesterday.
- 39:17It's now on the website on Demand if you want to have a
- 39:19look at that. It covers a lot of some of the
- 39:23topics that we spoke about in the Venezuelan segment today,
- 39:26but we're hearing it from from the horses mouth as it were.
- 39:30And certainly he absolutely is putting quite a lot of the
- 39:35responsibility for what's going on at Marco Rubio's door.
- 39:39And well, we can talk about that a bit more in extra.
- 39:42Now, I want to highlight an article which is going to cause
- 39:45people, some people, some difficulty, but I'm just going
- 39:49to say it's worth reading. It is fantastic.
- 39:51Islam is not the enemy of Christianity.
- 39:53This is an Arab Christian perspective.
- 39:56This is from someone in the Middle East who is an Arab
- 40:00Christian and just wanted to put her perspective.
- 40:05On the relationship between Islam and Christianity, or at
- 40:08least how it should be. And but as I say, it might cause
- 40:12some cognitive dissonance in in some people.
- 40:15And if it does well, I've just urge you to to consider what's
- 40:20being said. Just take a step back and
- 40:23consider it because it's worth consideration.
- 40:25Yeah, sometimes a shock to some people in the West to know that
- 40:28there are actual Christians living in Palestine peacefully
- 40:32with Muslims and in Lebanon and Syria as well.
- 40:36Maybe not with the current Syrian regime, which is AUS
- 40:39backed terrorist leader, but before that under the Assad
- 40:43government, all denominations living in harmony with each
- 40:46other mostly anyway in Iraq as well.
- 40:49It's the same in Iraq. So I know that comes as a shock.
- 40:53Yes, Christians in the Holy Land, Arab Christians, but it's
- 40:56true. We, we testified.
- 40:58This is a fact. They've been there for thousands
- 40:59of years or no, we're not Christians.
- 41:02Well, 2000. Yes.
- 41:04So, but anyway, now the 1000 Words podcast that went out last
- 41:09week, the second part of that is going out on Sunday at 7:00 PM
- 41:13is James Delingpole is being painted by Jake Fern.
- 41:17And of course they're having discussions on on, I think this
- 41:21week they're focusing on the things that brought James
- 41:25Dillingpole from where he was to where he is today.
- 41:30So this is a bit more about his how he has his opinions have
- 41:35evolved since he was. His demising conversion from
- 41:39from the Telegraph to where he is now, it's probably
- 41:41fascinating. Absolutely.
- 41:43Now that's for members only, so, but do join us for that. 7:00 PM
- 41:47on Sunday. And finally, a reminder of
- 41:52tomorrow, the digital ID protests in Edinburgh. 1:00 PM
- 41:58The Mound Princess St in Edinburgh.
- 42:00If you can possibly get along for that, please do go and
- 42:04support those guys because this is a topic which of course, is
- 42:07very close to many, many people's hearts.
- 42:10So as much support as possible would be fantastic.
- 42:13Now, Patrick, let's move on then to the issue of Russian oil
- 42:19exports and sanctions and so on. Well, it's an interesting topic.
- 42:22We were going to have a a guest international lawyer, Arnold
- 42:26Devolo, join us. There were connection issues,
- 42:28big tech issues between the East and the West right now because
- 42:32of sanctions. So we'll we'll.
- 42:34Find a work around for that and we'll we'll speak to him again.
- 42:36We'll bring him on in future, but but but nonetheless, let's
- 42:39bring this up. So this is the big question.
- 42:42Will Trump sanctions against Russia make a dent in in their
- 42:46oil exports? You know, basically how how
- 42:49serious is this? And just to there they are now,
- 42:54I guess all the goodwill from Anchorage is expended and now
- 42:58we're at with economic new levels of economic war.
- 43:01So what what Trump's trying to do here, Mike, is extract some
- 43:05kind of concessions from Russia in terms of getting them to
- 43:10agree to freeze the conflict in Ukraine as an example.
- 43:14So this does have a lot to do with what's happening on the
- 43:16battlefield in Ukraine right now.
- 43:18The question is how serious is they've sanctioned Russia to
- 43:21high heaven since 2014. In fact, after the Russia after
- 43:26Crimea reunited with the Russian Federation or an A Russia
- 43:30annexed it, depending on which perspective you take.
- 43:33And then after the Ukraine conflict kicked off in February
- 43:382022, another another level of sanctioning.
- 43:41So what could, what could the West possibly do to Russia that
- 43:45would really hurt it if Russia has weathered the storm and and
- 43:48is out competing Europe in terms of GDP growth and economic
- 43:53performance? Well is but is this really a
- 43:55checkmate? Well, let's take a look.
- 43:57And just to to review, this is something we mentioned earlier
- 44:00here. We're talking about these two
- 44:02major producers, Rosneff and Luke Oil, which comprise of 5%
- 44:06of the global oil trade, which is significant.
- 44:09This might not sound like a lot 5%, but it is a 20th of the
- 44:13global oil trade. So it is a lot, but China is
- 44:17halting oil purchases from these companies.
- 44:22That's massive. Before China was basically still
- 44:25training and basically sidestepped any threats.
- 44:28And India, same. So these are three main founding
- 44:34BRICS countries, Russia, China and India.
- 44:37So has Trump done a major move here, a checkmate, if you will,
- 44:41against bricks and against Russia?
- 44:44Well, Mike, the the consensus is this is going to hurt Russia in
- 44:48the short term for sure. And what's interesting is in
- 44:52November, I think the end of November is, is the deadline
- 44:55where Luke Oil, which has facilities all over the world.
- 45:00And these can be now seized under kind of, you know, eminent
- 45:04domain under these sanctions. So they're now trying to sell
- 45:06all of their facilities and properties in the next three
- 45:09weeks and they're going for nothing basically.
- 45:12So that's what that's what those are the reports that we've got
- 45:14out of Russia. So they're basically if it
- 45:17whatever is not basically liquidated, but by I think
- 45:21November 17th right around there, then it's basically they
- 45:25they can lose them. What does international law say
- 45:27about this? Is this, is this legitimate what
- 45:30the United States doing? Absolutely.
- 45:32It's not by this should go into some kind of a forum like, you
- 45:37know, the UN General Assembly or the Security Council or some
- 45:40kind of arbitration. So it's completely against
- 45:43international law. And the and especially at a time
- 45:46when the US doesn't want to come to any political settlement over
- 45:49Ukraine, they want to settle it on the battlefield.
- 45:51The Europeans want to settle on the battlefield and then they're
- 45:54waging economic warfare against against Russia and then
- 45:57sanctioning anyone who's buying Russian oil.
- 46:00So that's also secondary. Sanctions are absolutely in
- 46:03violation of international law. So Hungary wants a waiver there
- 46:08will probably get a waiver. Same with Slovakia and a number
- 46:12of other countries. Germany's got a waiver for
- 46:14Rosneft and Germany. They still rely on Russia and
- 46:18Germany's, as we said, they're going to seize, possibly sees
- 46:21and nationalise those Russian Rosneft refineries and so forth
- 46:27in Germany because that's the only way around it is to steal
- 46:30it and nationalise it. So this is kind of crazy what's
- 46:34going on here. I.
- 46:36Mean should Russia not view that as an act of war?
- 46:39It it is wars have been started over over this in the past.
- 46:43In fact, this is arguably one of the reasons why Japan attacked
- 46:46Pearl Harbour in 1941 was they were being strangled and shut
- 46:50off from the global markets by the Americans and the British.
- 46:53So they, they, they, it was really kind of a pre emptive
- 46:56move to hit the US bases in, in Hawaii and Pearl Harbour.
- 47:02There's more to it than that. But so the, the questions that
- 47:05this raises, Mike, is OPEC, how's OPEC going to respond?
- 47:09Is OPEC going to increase production to keep the price of
- 47:12oil down? Because what the US don't want
- 47:14is a spike in oil prices because that's going to create problems
- 47:17economically for Trump and for the West, but also it's going to
- 47:21benefit Russia because according to Russian experts, just a
- 47:25slight increase in price will make up for the lost trade.
- 47:29You see. So I mean that that those are
- 47:31the sort of variables that we're dealing with here.
- 47:34And so it is interesting. And you know what else is
- 47:37interesting is the Rosa Tom is the nuclear yeah, provider for
- 47:44Russia. They're exempt from all
- 47:45sanctions globally. They've got a they've got a
- 47:48white waiver for every every everyone relies on them around
- 47:51the world. They do a full end to end
- 47:53solution from uranium to clean up to facilities to build the
- 47:57facilities, maintain the facilities to fantastic company,
- 48:00which is mostly, I believe state owned.
- 48:02They have a complete waiver and Japan is basically ignoring any
- 48:07threats of sanctions. They buy a lot of LNG from
- 48:10Russia. The Sakhalin site is a joint
- 48:13venture between the Japanese and the Russian government And Japan
- 48:16saying no, we're we're we're keeping our relationship with
- 48:18Russia. They don't buy a lot of oil from
- 48:20Russia and Japan. They get it from other places.
- 48:23They only get a small percentage from Russia.
- 48:25So Japan is basically not affected by this at all and is
- 48:29pushing back against any pressure not to buy Russian
- 48:32liquefied natural gas. So that's interesting.
- 48:35So Asia is, it'll be interesting to see what direction this goes,
- 48:40how China and Russia will adapt on this and we might see some
- 48:44changes in the structure of the Russian.
- 48:47These companies could become nationalised in Russia itself
- 48:51and it becomes much more difficult to sanction if these
- 48:54are state owned companies. So last question Patrick,
- 48:57because on this bearing in mind that the so called Glo Global S
- 49:02is the global majority, why, why isn't there much more of a sort
- 49:06of an international outcry about this?
- 49:09I, I don't know per per SE, no, I think there's just so many
- 49:12terror. There's tariff wars and
- 49:14sanctions. the US is basically using tariffs as sanctions to
- 49:17punish people for not behaving the way they want or not
- 49:20submitting to whatever the, the weekly DIC tats are, which are
- 49:24constantly changing from the Trump administration.
- 49:26So there's a lot of chaos, I think, and there's a lot of
- 49:30noise and hysteria going on right now.
- 49:33So trying to get a consolidated response to what the US is doing
- 49:37here is going to be difficult, OK?
- 49:39Everyone's just trying to survive in this economy.
- 49:42So I mean, there's a lot of problems with that.
- 49:45So I think personally, in the long term, I think in the short
- 49:49term, the, the sanctions against Russia, these particular ones
- 49:52are going to hurt Russia in the short term.
- 49:55And you're going to see probably Q 4/20/26 that that that's when
- 50:00you'll start, start to see on the balance sheet what sort of
- 50:04effect this has. But I've been speaking to
- 50:06experts in Russia, Mike, on this and they said that this Ukraine
- 50:10war is going to be done by Q4 of 2026.
- 50:13When I say done, we, we're talking about Odessa, Kharkiv,
- 50:18Dinapia, Petrosk, and these sort of key regions that they're
- 50:23fighting over right now, which geopolitically change the whole,
- 50:29you know, viewpoint of this conflict.
- 50:31For NATO, that means basically they're done.
- 50:33NATO's southern flank is finished.
- 50:36If if that's the case, they're really pushing Russia's hand.
- 50:39Because if, if this is going to create pain in Russia, Mike, and
- 50:42that's going to create political pressure for Putin and this
- 50:45government, then it they're incentivizing Russia to move
- 50:48quicker and harder in Ukraine. And so what's that?
- 50:52Is that going to elicit an aggressive response from Europe?
- 50:55Is this how we're going to get war?
- 50:57That's a legitimate question as well, yeah.
- 50:59Absolutely. OK, let's come back to the UK
- 51:02then. And online safety, because
- 51:05Sunday was the Online Safety Act's second birthday.
- 51:11We should all have been celebrating.
- 51:13I hope everyone was celebrating. We appreciate my sarcasm there.
- 51:16But anyway, Ofcoms Group director for Online Safety
- 51:19Oliver Griffith said that real change is happening.
- 51:22We've laid the foundations for a safer life online.
- 51:25Do you feel safer online, Patrick?
- 51:28Yeah, OK, he said. He said tech platforms now have
- 51:33clear legal duties to protect people, especially children,
- 51:35from legal and harmful, from illegal and harmful content.
- 51:39Now, this is important because the concept of legal but harmful
- 51:43content never really went away. So we have to look a bit behind
- 51:47what he was saying there. Anyway, Ofcom announced that
- 51:50they're going to publish a report detailing their progress
- 51:54to creating a censorship industrial.
- 51:59Sorry, I've completely forgotten the word that's going to be
- 52:01published in December. Anyway, here's Ofcom's head DM,
- 52:06Melanie Doss, because she's written to the chairs of the
- 52:09Communications and Digital Select Committee and also the
- 52:13Science, Innovation and Technology Committee to claim
- 52:15all kinds of success so far. She said the most visible and
- 52:19significant change so far has been the introduction of age
- 52:22cheques across online pornography sites.
- 52:25Another sites hosting primary priority content as defined in
- 52:28the ACT to prevent under eighteens from being able to
- 52:31access this content. So I mean, this is, this is
- 52:37absolutely her position. But of course this business of
- 52:40under eighteens being able to access content, well that might
- 52:44be the case, but it does nothing to prevent those over 18 from
- 52:47posing as under eighteens on sites that target children.
- 52:51So it should come as no surprise then that the first imprisonment
- 52:54under the Online Safety Act is of an adult who abused a 17 year
- 52:58old and caused her to self harm. This is presented as a huge
- 53:02success for the Online Safety Act, but in fact it's another
- 53:05failure. The ACT did and does nothing to
- 53:08prevent this type of abuse and the crimes committed by this
- 53:12person were already illegal. So this this prosecution could
- 53:18have been on the basis of already existing legislation.
- 53:22Child abuse and causing self harm were not legal before the
- 53:25Online Safety Act. So the claim that this is some
- 53:27kind of success is complete and utter nonsense.
- 53:30But anyway, in the meantime, the war of words between Wikipedia
- 53:34and the UK regime continues because Wikipedia is also
- 53:39subject to the age verification requirements that the
- 53:41pornography sites are. And this is upsetting Jimmy
- 53:44Wales because the best Deep state editors of the planet's
- 53:47greatest propaganda machine wish to remain anonymous.
- 53:50And Jimmy wants them to remain anonymous.
- 53:53He wants them to be able to remain anonymous.
- 53:54But Starmer's saying no to that. And so that fight is continuing.
- 53:58Well, so intelligence agencies are battling the government
- 54:04absolutely on this. On this yes, professional
- 54:07trolls. In the EU then, LinkedIn has
- 54:11been ramping up its censorship regime and the European
- 54:13Commission has been forced to deny that it had anything to do
- 54:17with so that the censorship had anything to do with the Digital
- 54:19Services Act, which is the EU's equivalent to the Online Safety
- 54:23Act. That's a pretty lame excuse
- 54:26because of course LinkedIn and all the platforms are responding
- 54:29to the legislative framework they find themselves in,
- 54:32primarily because LinkedIn doesn't really have any skin in
- 54:35the game as far as advertising is concerned.
- 54:37So they're not worried about content that that may put
- 54:40advertisers off as such. So this is mainly about the the
- 54:44the Digital Services Act and the Online Safety Act, but I just
- 54:47wanted to to end this topic with this article.
- 54:51This was rubbished originally published a couple of months ago
- 54:54on the conversation website, but the Cobb Courier here.
- 54:58The Cobb Courier is a local website in the United States has
- 55:02just republished this and the headline is Self Censorship and
- 55:06the Spiral of Silence. Why Americans are less likely to
- 55:08publicly voice their opinions on political issues.
- 55:11And it talks about people self censoring because people are
- 55:16being driven to extreme positions as a result of current
- 55:19events and and people are therefore afraid to speak out
- 55:22because of the abuse they received from people on the
- 55:24other end of the political spectrum.
- 55:26And so what's being described here is that the polarisation of
- 55:30opinion is in and of itself a mechanism of censorship.
- 55:35You know, because the divide and conquer policy, in other words,
- 55:38is a gift that keeps on giving. If people want to, you know, I'm
- 55:42going to suggest here that if people want to resist policies
- 55:44they disagree with, maybe we should be engaging people that
- 55:47we, you know, the people that we disagree with in a way which
- 55:51sort of enables conversations rather than rather than, well,
- 55:55what is sort of digital bloodshed as we see on on X and
- 55:59other platforms at the moment. But I think I thought that was a
- 56:02pretty insightful article, because there is no question
- 56:06that is people's opinions move to the extremes.
- 56:08It gets harder for them to express them without ending it,
- 56:12ending up in just a massive war. Yeah, in my experience
- 56:16personally engaging with other Americans on on just my germane
- 56:22political conversations is there's a huge gap between what
- 56:26people know or think they know and what's actually true.
- 56:30And some for some people, you can't get over the conversation
- 56:33that they don't. They believe Michelle Obama is a
- 56:35man basically. And and and they're just stuck
- 56:38on that. They believe all sorts of
- 56:40things. But so you can't really have an
- 56:42intelligent political conversation that's, you know,
- 56:45of course, that's just my opinion that Michelle Obama is a
- 56:49biological female. But people have been
- 56:52radicalised. I couldn't possibly comment.
- 56:55They've been radicalised on this stuff, so you it is kind of
- 56:58frustrating. And because of that it's
- 57:00affected. Both sides will not talk to each
- 57:02other basically. So if you're intelligent, you
- 57:04want to have a intellectual conversation somewhere in the
- 57:07middle. You're not welcome.
- 57:09You're not. Welcome.
- 57:10That's the case. And so conversations aren't
- 57:13happening. But in the meantime, Speaking of
- 57:14conversations, at least an attempt to stop conversations
- 57:19happening, what's the latest on the doctors that are being
- 57:23censored? What's Auk story here?
- 57:25And we'll bring this image up on screen.
- 57:27So this is this is UK Israeli censorship.
- 57:30Let's just call it what it is. This is here Doctor Ramey Ladwan
- 57:36and she they're attempting to revoke her licence to practise
- 57:39medicine get her struck from the the General Medical Council on
- 57:45this year and the the coverage on this is just unbelievable.
- 57:49So we go to the to the right. This is the Telegraph NH Doctor
- 57:52Who celebrated Hamas October 7th attack knows how they put that
- 57:56in single quotes. Is is arrested and they put it
- 58:00in single quotes. So this is an accusation
- 58:02probably from, I don't know, an Israeli lobby or a Jewish lobby
- 58:07organisation. They put it in single quotes.
- 58:09It's highly libellous and defamatory.
- 58:11Cause clearly she wasn't celebrating October 7th.
- 58:15But the Telegraph are playing bit cute with that one by
- 58:19putting in single quotes. And now on the left world
- 58:21socialist website defending her UK government backed persecution
- 58:25of anti genocide medic Dr Rahme, a large 1 continues.
- 58:29You see the difference between the media coverage, but the the
- 58:33the entire mainstream in Britain is railing against her.
- 58:36So you know, if you if you're if you're into the underdog and you
- 58:39don't trust the establishment, then maybe you should consider
- 58:42what side you're taking on this. But here's here's what's
- 58:44happened to her since she has been released.
- 58:49She says this is on her ex account.
- 58:51A few days ago I'm effectively on a form of house arrest, my
- 58:55bail conditions for lawful speech, a July talk she gave and
- 59:00three posts on X. She's banned from any public
- 59:03demonstration or event in London relating to Palestine or Israel.
- 59:08Curfew to live and sleep at a specific address.
- 59:12Must notify a detective if she is to leave home for more than
- 59:1648 hours. Yesterday, the chair of the
- 59:18tribunal cut her off from reading, fought one sentence.
- 59:22The GMC had also specifically requested that I am not to
- 59:28speak, says Doctor Aladwan. This is what the political
- 59:31persecution of a doctor looks like in Britain today.
- 59:35Pretty, pretty amazing House arrest for tweets.
- 59:39So all all the people on the right that were railing and Elon
- 59:42Musk and JD Vance about people being, you know, arrested or
- 59:46door knocked by the police for tweets.
- 59:49None of those people on the so called conservatives are coming
- 59:52to her rescue because they don't like the fact that she is
- 59:56defending Palestinians. So is and she herself is from
- 1:00:00the Levant, if I'm not mistaken. So yeah, she's I believe
- 1:00:04Jordanian, of Jordanian Palestinian descent.
- 1:00:07So she's talking about her people effectively, but yet this
- 1:00:11is criminalised speech. So we're all the free speech
- 1:00:14warriors on the right. Are you going to defend her on
- 1:00:19principle or not because Israel's involved in the issue?
- 1:00:23No, is apparently the case. Yeah, indeed.
- 1:00:26Mark, let's come back to you then to end and just bring us a
- 1:00:31little bit more on what the White House has been saying
- 1:00:34about Gaza. Well, this just then, you might
- 1:00:38say, Mike, you had asked me to look this up and everything I
- 1:00:42looked up was about a week, week and a half old regarding White
- 1:00:47House negotiators Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff.
- 1:00:49This is from Politico. 20 October.
- 1:00:52Those two guys returned to the Middle East and met with Prime
- 1:00:55Minister Netanyahu and Israel after a weekend where the
- 1:00:59ceasefire at that time looked increasingly in danger as Israel
- 1:01:02launched a wave of strikes on targets in Gaza around October
- 1:01:0619, which Palestinian authorities said killed dozens
- 1:01:09of people, including children, after two Israeli troops, I
- 1:01:13would say, allegedly were killed by militants.
- 1:01:16Hamas said it was not responsible for the attack on
- 1:01:18those soldiers. So there's, of course, a lot of
- 1:01:21concern about wanting to make Gaza a real estate Mecca in the
- 1:01:25wake of all this tragedy. And these negotiators are, you
- 1:01:29know, working around a ceasefire that really never was.
- 1:01:34And it truly is a, a disheartening and tragic thing
- 1:01:37to see with Israel getting away with so many crimes, Internet
- 1:01:42breaking, breaking international law, and as we mentioned
- 1:01:45earlier, escaping the the overall chronicling and
- 1:01:51archiving of data on nuclear weapons tests when they have a
- 1:01:55nuclear arsenal they've had for a long time.
- 1:01:58And yet it's been kept unofficial.
- 1:02:00And that that really adds insult to injury after as to what
- 1:02:05Israel's been doing in Gaza. So I didn't have a lot of time
- 1:02:09to look into this in detail, but I think that puts a good ending
- 1:02:12on today's show, kind of sums things up.
- 1:02:15Well, of course, Witkoff and so on, they were seen on camera
- 1:02:20recently causing each other, Kushner and Witkoff causing each
- 1:02:24other a little bit of embarrassment.
- 1:02:25What? What was going on there?
- 1:02:27We'll go to that in a second. They had the interview of 60
- 1:02:29Minutes and Leslie Stahl, really embarrassing, actually.
- 1:02:32We'll show that clip in a minute.
- 1:02:33But Israel's basically pioneering a new concept here,
- 1:02:36Mike. It's a temporarily permanent
- 1:02:38ceasefire. The temporarily permanent
- 1:02:41ceasefire. And I might add, under
- 1:02:43international law, Israeli soldiers I, the IDF or IOF,
- 1:02:48depending on which acronym you use, they have no rights under
- 1:02:51international law in as illegal occupiers in Gaza.
- 1:02:55Just saying the fact that that their safety is somehow a part
- 1:02:59of any negotiation or or ceasefire agreement is patently
- 1:03:04ridiculous. But unfortunately, you're
- 1:03:06dealing with a perennial violator of multiple UN
- 1:03:10resolutions over the last 80 years.
- 1:03:12But so, so this is clip. Watch this clip and watch the
- 1:03:15reaction from Jared Kushner when the 60 Minutes host asks Steve
- 1:03:20Witkoff and Steve Witkoff seems to give away play the entire
- 1:03:24game on this and just Kushner is panicking, visibly dishevelled.
- 1:03:30Watch this. You're builders, you've been in
- 1:03:34real estate. Tell us more about the plan and
- 1:03:38how much it's going to cost. Where's the money going to come
- 1:03:41from and who's going to award the contracts?
- 1:03:45I think it's going to cost a lot of money.
- 1:03:48What's a lot of money? You know, the estimates are in
- 1:03:51the $50 billion range. It might be a little bit less,
- 1:03:53it might be a little bit more. I happen to think that that's
- 1:03:56not a lot of money in that region.
- 1:03:58You have governments that are going to jump on in.
- 1:04:00Middle East countries are going to provide the money.
- 1:04:04Yeah. What?
- 1:04:05You'll see European participation and so forth.
- 1:04:07The beginning of this plan is how to get it going.
- 1:04:11That's what me and what me and Jared work on all the time.
- 1:04:14The money raising, we think is the easy part, but it's the
- 1:04:17master plan and we're working with a group of people who have
- 1:04:21been working on master plans for the last two years.
- 1:04:24So there are plans already. We have plans already.
- 1:04:26We have a master plan already. And by the way, and Jared's been
- 1:04:29pushing this and we're working together on it, and I think if
- 1:04:33the world saw the progress so far, they'd be pretty impressed.
- 1:04:39Well, it's always good to end the programme on the comedy
- 1:04:42moment, Patrick. But that, you know, in a sense
- 1:04:46it's a comedy moment because clearly Kushner was extremely
- 1:04:48embarrassed by that. But but you know, what we're
- 1:04:51actually looking at, we should always keep in mind is
- 1:04:55thousands, 100, you know, 10s of thousands, hundreds of thousands
- 1:04:58of people, basically a population decimated to make
- 1:05:01room for this master plan. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:05:04And, and he's been working on it for Jared's been working on for
- 1:05:07two years since October 7th. And Steve Witkoff gave it away.
- 1:05:11The delboy, the delboy of diplomacy.
- 1:05:14Steve Witkoff gave the game away.
- 1:05:16And that's what it's all about. Trump tweeted out this Gaza
- 1:05:19Riviera thing with this gaudy AI video back at the beginning of
- 1:05:23his term in February. And that was just kind of like a
- 1:05:26big FUI think to the Palestinians and to the
- 1:05:30international community on this. And there you go.
- 1:05:33These two shysters, a couple of crooks, a couple of criminals
- 1:05:37and their bosses running a protection racket, who is, I
- 1:05:40don't know who their boss is. Which cabinet do they work for,
- 1:05:43the Israeli cabinet or the American governments cabinet?
- 1:05:48This is an open question that we don't actually know the answer
- 1:05:50to the British at this point. Maybe, maybe, maybe there's a
- 1:05:55Union Jack inside, Jared. Designer suit.
- 1:05:59Well, we'll leave. We'll leave it on that thought.
- 1:06:01So look, we'll be back. In a couple of minutes, if
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