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PODCAST: Episode 788 - Incite - "Savage New Times" Review and Vinyl Unboxing · Ghost Cult Magazine Podcast

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  None. Once up, everybody start a late
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  night TV here with another ghostcultmag.com live stream.
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  And tonight we are going to be reviewing and unboxing the vinyl
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  for the brand new album from Insight, which is out this
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  Friday from Raining Phoenix Music.
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  Thanks for being here. I'm just making sure everybody
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  is up on this piece. Bring in all our peeps at once.
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  Think it has worked? Not quite.
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  Let's see. Of course I'm itchy the second
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  the shit goes live, All right, everybody's here.
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  We are streaming, not live, thanks to Stream Yard on
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  Facebook, YouTube, Twitch, Instagram, and I'm hanging out
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  on TikTok. Best experience for this is
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  YouTube, Twitch, Facebook, and Instagram.
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  But I like keeping everybody kind of in the fold.
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  Just a couple of programming notes.
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  This is our going to be our second live stream of the week.
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  We have another one on Thursday, which is our regular Rocky metal
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  News Live stream every Thursday afternoon slash evening,
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  depending on where you are in the world and having a Trader
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  Joe seltzer post dinner seltzer here.
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  Got the vinyl right behind me on the old bed and yeah, I'm really
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  stoked. This is what I consider to be a
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  pretty great album and I feel like maybe it's going under the
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  radar. It's been such a very busy
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  summer. E Ling is here yo.
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  It's been such a busy summer with releases really.
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  We never went back to the lighter release schedule of the
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  pre pandemic. Ever since 2021 it's just 12
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  months of pack releases. Used to be January wouldn't put
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  out too many records, but other than right after New Year's it's
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  pretty hectic. And then all summer and then
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  used to be like it would quiet down after November 1st and it'd
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  just be box sets and things. But that's not the case anymore.
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  We have year round album releases so it's so thick and I
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  haven't really done. Last night I did my first
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  concert review as a live stream in a long, long time and tonight
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  I'm doing my first album review. Brand new album, not a classic
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  album. That's obvious that we all agree
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  on. It's classic and sort of, or at
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  least I think we all agree, but this is a new album and maybe
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  this will be a new classic. We need to start having new
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  classics to lean on for when our heroes are not making music
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  anymore. So just a couple of housekeeping
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  notes here. I'll begin the deck here for a
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  second. If this is your first time here,
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  chances are Wizard Nosco is here.
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  If this is your first time here with us, feel free to subscribe
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  if you like what we see. If you love rock and metal,
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  that's what we do. News, interviews, concert and
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  metal festival reviews all around the world and content
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  just like this all the time, constantly.
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  It's it's a it's a lot, let me tell you.
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  And we don't have corporate backing, so we'll talk about
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  plugs in a second. But this great photo, which
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  we'll see again in a minute, was shot by Ghost Cult's own Kim
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  Hansen. Papa Bear is here.
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  Sided MV is here. Eastland's album was probably
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  was released in December 2024. I think that was probably a
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  mistake in retrospect. You know what, do what you got
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  to do. I also teach and train bands on
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  the music industry, marketing and social media, and one of my
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  areas of expertise is release schedules.
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  I've consulted on this in the past.
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  Liam is here also. So you know what these thing?
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  There's always a deluxe edition of Band Camp Friday.
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  Push an extra track, digital expanded version, re release it
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  later when your vinyl is ready. If it's not ready you know
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  there's so many options and things you can do.
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  Always feel free to DM me. Advice is free and I'm pretty
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  easy to work with. I probably will be doing some
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  free content for bands and music people soon, I just haven't
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  gotten around to it. But I'm going to get to it, I
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  promise. So just a couple of bits of
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  housekeeping here and obviously we're here to talk about this
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  new album, insights, Savage, New Times.
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  We're going to break it all down.
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  This is coming out this week on Raining Phoenix Music.
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  And again, like I said, you have so many options and bombarded
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  with so many choices that whenever I can, we try to like
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  cut through and help fans. So just in case you didn't know,
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  if you're a regular subscriber to Ghost Cult on YouTube or you
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  followed most of our socials, you would notice that I ran an
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  interview with Richie Cavallera of Insight on Monday.
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  We go way back. I've interviewed Richie a bunch
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  and he's always just a fun, great person.
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  He is who he says he is in person and over interviews and
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  things like that. It's a it's, it's a, it's a
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  small world and it's a smaller business.
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  Dungeons and Dead is here. What's up?
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  Bel Figor is here. Bel Figor.
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  That's very funny. I just got that joke.
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  I understood that reference. So yeah.
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  Check out our interview with Richie after you watch this if
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  you're interested for more content on Insight coming up
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  tomorrow or later today, depending on where you are in
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  the world, is going to be our interview with Angelo Moore of
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  Fishbone. Their new album is out this
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  week. And my co-owner and partner Omar
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  Cordy interviewed Angelo. We've seen fishbone with the new
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  lineup not too long ago. And he is a legend of multiple
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  genres, punk, funk, hip hop, I mean guide toward Metallica,
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  like all kinds of stuff. Angelo is incredible as his
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  Fishbone. And then just again, as I said,
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  we are not corporate backed. So if you feel like donating to
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  us, if you're on YouTube, you can hit us up with a super chat
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  or a super likes or a super thanks.
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  Feel free to drop us a donation. We always appreciate it.
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  Every dime we make goes back into the company.
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  Here's what we do and how we do it.
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  And of course, there's a price menu and where to pay.
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  So you know, if you can throw us a couple of bucks, it's
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  appreciated. We have channel memberships on
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  YouTube. I'm going to start pushing that
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  a little more also. And there's our Cash App in case
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  you want to check it out on the other apps and things.
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  And just a reminder, a little more housekeeping.
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  My other podcast, the Glacial Musical Podcast, is in the
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  middle of the series on the original Ozzy solo albums, which
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  we had planned to do before he passed away.
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  So now it just feels like a lot of Ozzy worship.
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  But hey, could do a lot worse than that.
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  But we are doing a giveaway. Anyone in the world can enter to
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  win either a vinyl bundle or ACD bundle from my Co host Nick's
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  personal collection. He is culling the herd if you
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  will, so he can buy more stuff and so he gives away a lot of
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  his stuff from time to time. So feel free to check that out
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  and the link is in the description if you want to check
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  it out just about everywhere. I will.
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  Maybe I'll place it in there again just to just so you know
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  it's in here. I'll even skip all the rules and
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  everything and you can just go to the post here and do it.
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  I'll drop it in here as well. Hey, look at that right in the
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  comments. There you go, Gleam IO.
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  All right, so let's talk about this album and I'm going to just
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  in Biggin myself for a second and you know, we'll do a little
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  insight by the numbers. But before I do that, you know
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  one thing that a lot of people, you know, obviously Richie is
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  Max Cavalier's son. He has been around music his
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  entire life. I think I became aware of Richie
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  when he was a little kid because he used to come out on Ozfest 98
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  and sing bleed and do the, the Fred Durst rap part with Fred
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  and Max for bleed from the very first Soul Fly record.
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  You know, years later. He started Insight 21 years ago.
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  He was a, he was a youngster, a young pup.
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  He's a seasoned veteran now of music and the and the metal
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  world. And he's no, you know,
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  obviously, look, he's got a very powerful agent mom and manager
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  mom and infamously world famous metal icon dad, but he's never
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  really relied on that. And, you know, Insight has
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  forged its own path. He has had basically, except for
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  one person, the same lineup since 2013.
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  He's got a recently new guitar player we'll talk about that
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  made a huge impact on this new record.
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  So here's a little Insight by the numbers. 21 years as a band,
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  7 full lengths and two EPS, including this new album, Savage
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  New Times. And I do want to say that I
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  think like their last record was kind of an in between the EP and
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  an album. Jim is here.
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  What's up? Jim doing a little album review
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  and vinyl unboxing today for the new Inside album.
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  If you hate spoilers and you just want to listen to it on the
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  release, that's fair too. But I'm just trying to shine a
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  light on a band I think is doing a great job.
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  I love this new record. So technically 7 records as of
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  this week. Again, I think Wasted is a
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  little bit of a hybrid of EPN album.
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  You know, they haven't just opened for Max's bands, just
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  like all his kids have forged their own kind of way.
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  Infamously, Insight has toured an open for The Dillinger Escape
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  Plan, Devil Driver, 6 Feet Under Plate, festivals all over the
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  world and everything. Savage New Times is produced by
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  Steve Evans, who's mostly known for hardcore and metal albums.
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  Interestingly enough, in my interview with Richie this that
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  ran this week. Yeah, I'm up a little late, had
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  some errands to do today. Today was actually the light day
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  in my week. I'm sorry to hear you're back in
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  the hospital gym. DM me and let me know what's
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  going on with you if you can. So Matthew is here.
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  Love to Bill this year, Mike, Scotty, Sean, etcetera.
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  Good to see you all. Yolk Devils is back.
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  Thanks for being back. So he told us in the interview
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  Richie that they picked Steve Evans because he produced an
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  album Sepultura did when Max was out of the band with Igor And
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  Igor is a huge fan of Steve and he recommended Steve to Richie,
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  which is super interesting because usually the two camps of
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  Sepultura and and you know, the Max Soulfly, Cavalier
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  Conspiracy, etcetera, they never mesh.
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  They don't cross the streams, but produced by Steve, who's an
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  incredible producer and mixed by Arthur Rizik, who you know,
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  everybody knows now as a producer, mixer and guitar
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  player. The very inventive artwork is by
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  Marcelo or Marcello Vasco. We'll go back to it in a second
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  when we show the the vinyl. And they just signed to Raining
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  Phoenix Music after a long run on Minus Head Records, which is
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  a more underground label. Raining Phoenix's the former
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  staffers and A&R people that used to help run Nuclear Blast
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  and they fractured into two companies and Raining Phoenix
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  has a ton of huge bands, including the Sugar Opeth
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  Halloween coming up soon on a Halloween interview.
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  So and obviously in addition to Richie Cavallera, Wayne
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  Richardson is the newish guitar player.
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  He's been in the band two years after Mike De Leon, who has been
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  in, you know, Felon, Selma and the Illegals and Soul Flying, a
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  bunch of other bands. Elle continues to be the
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  bassist. Guy's a monster.
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  And Lennon Lopez is also a monster on drums.
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  Just an absolute killer band. Let's talk about this record for
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  a second. Savage New Times.
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  And what I'm going to do here is I'm going to unbox the vinyl.
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  They sent me the vinyl. I haven't listened to it yet,
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  sadly. I've only been jamming out the
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  record on the promo. Nicely packaged and safe, which
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  I appreciate. Haven't been able to afford a
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  lot of new records, so I'm very appreciative to get anything
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  donated to me. Here it is, and it's beautiful
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  vinyl splendor packed beautifully.
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  It'll be a good idea to not knock it on top of the thing
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  here. Yep.
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  So Yep, after I open this and show it off to you, it's going
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  to go right in my vinyl sleeves. Both an inner sleeve for the
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  vinyl and the outer sleeve for the jacket.
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  You can listen to my other podcast, the Glacially Musical
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  Podcast, to learn about why you should put all your vinyls in
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  protective mylars, but mostly to protect your needle, not just to
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  protect the actual. I know half the people that buy
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  vinyl don't actually have record players, but I listen to my
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  records and I love my records. So here's the cover again.
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  Marcello Vasco did the cover. Here's the back cover.
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  This is a single, no gatefold, one album, nice and economical.
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  Technically does still have the minus had logo on it, so I
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  wonder if they just did a deal with them for this.
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  But yeah, side A, side B. Let's check it out.
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  Already got a paper? Want to get your vinyl out of
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  paper as much as possible? Was it an static?
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  Oh, look at this beautiful green.
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  I think you could see this in the interview with Richie behind
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  him, right? Look at this gorgeous kind of
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  snot green vinyl, really cool kind of alien blood looking
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  thing here. Really nice in the in the studio
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  lighting here. I can't wait to play this thing
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  when it came in the paper, but it's not the paper with the
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  mylar. So I will replace that and then
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  let's see if it came with anything else.
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  So it looks like an insert. Nice that lyric sheet.
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  Very cool with more artwork and the inside cover here, which I
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  believe is by Ben Alexis and dot Cobra on socials.
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  So super cool and again, very appreciative that they sent this
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  along. Now let's let's talk about the
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  record a little bit, right? And actually I can even play
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  some of it. Unfortunately, you guys on
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  TikTok are not going to get to hear it, but I might be able to
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  play a few. We just want to double check the
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  official authorized tracks are just a Rat, No Mercy, No
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  Forgiveness, Lies and Dolores, which is one of my favorite
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  tracks on the whole record, really surprised and shocked me.
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  Just just for a little backtrack.
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  Inside is a band that is in the same vein as Lamb of God, Devil
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  Driver, Machine Head, Gojira. They're a little less
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  progressive, but they are straight up brutal modern metal,
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  you know, obviously inspired by Pantera, obviously clearly
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  owning homage to Sepultura, the big four of thrash, Slayer, but
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  I think they're a little more melodic even than they're given
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  credit for in this new album. I think is going to really open
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  people up, especially the job Lane Richardson did.
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  There's a lot of like mellow death in the leads that I really
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  loved that kind of reminded me of early In Flames and Soil Work
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  Records. And Richie has really stepped
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  out of himself as a vocalist to really broaden his palette in
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  terms of what he's capable of doing.
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  He's always been just a very aggressive, hard singer, but now
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  he can sing on key, scream on key, so it's like a little bit
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  more melody. It's not just straight monotone
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  screaming and song wise, this record is fantastic.
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  It's heavy all the way through, but it's really, it actually is
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  varied. It's very hard for bands to hey,
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  Rick Haven is here and Harry is here.
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  Thanks for being here. You know, it's hard for bands to
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  kind of adapt and adjust and do something a little differently.
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  So I really appreciate it when a band does so.
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  The very first track on the record was this song Lies, which
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  I'll play a little of just a little, because I don't want the
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  demons of and YouTube the 3D like real good, real good bass
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  brass, the crossover brass. Super cool, super heavy, great
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  way to kick the album off. The second track is Feel This
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  Shit, I'm fired Up. Pretty damn killer.
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  Just a Rat was also a single. This was a big music video for
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  them. This song's a banger and it's
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  quick. Kind of Gojira, man of God.
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  Also a little machine head in there.
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  Nice, like real hardcore, right? And then the chorus is like
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  straight up metal. So I'm a big Tsunami fan there,
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  geek, but I'm in the middle of a review, so I'm not going to.
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  If you tune in on Thursday, I might honor that request.
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  So those are just the first couple of songs.
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  Here's another one that I thought was really good.
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  No mercy, no forgiveness. What a nice screw you're going
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  to sit in there. Some good shit there.
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  So yeah, I'm really digging this album a whole lot.
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  It didn't surprise me because I expected it to be at least good.
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  But it's so good that I really want you all to check it out
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  too. And that the closing track is
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  Savage New Times as well, which I really also like.
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  So it's all bangers. I got to be honest with you.
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  It's it's really, you know, a lot of bands say this is the
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  best record we ever made, but this is actually the best record
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  that insight has ever made. And they have had, you know,
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  like I said, some lineup changes over the years, but most of all
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  that rhythm section has been locked in since 2013 with
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  Richie. So those 3 is a writing team as
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  as well as the new guitar, new ish guitar player.
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  He's been in for a few years. But Lane Richardson is just just
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  stepped up here and really gets to lay it down.
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  And they're still, like I said, a very, you know, even they
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  signed to a a bigger label and they're they're getting
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  hopefully the push I think they deserve.
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  But I think it's it's super cool that this is, you know, the
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  result of their hard work and is also the great sounding record.
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  Just beautiful sounding, great mix.
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  Nothing is fighting for space. I can't wait to hear this thing
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  on the vinyl. And yeah, really excited about
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  it. I do want to spend a minute
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  talking about the longest song in the album.
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  Is this sort of the highlight song of the album is this side
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  to Frank Dolores. And it seems like an epic.
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  It's almost like a hardcore power ballad, like it's so
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  heavy, almost like a this love or like the thing that should
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  not be like Metallica. And it's got this insane great
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  melody and and really good storytelling by Richie on the
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  lyrics. I'm not 100% sure what this
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  song's about, but it's fierce. You know, I guess it's up for
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  people to make their own mind up about what you're hearing.
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  But yeah, what a what an absolute beast of a record this
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  is. This is kind of my new approach
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  to doing these reviews here rather than to do every track,
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  but here's my opinion of the best tracks.
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  It is more than half of them. Lies, feel this shit, I'm fired
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  up. Just a rat.
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  Doubts in the Fear, Dolores No Mercy No Forgiveness and the
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  late album track never Died once which is also brutal.
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  And these are just. There's no fat on these songs.
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  There's nothing that feels too long like you never like.
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  Skip this or skip that. It's all bangers.
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  I listen to this multiple times all the way through and I really
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  find myself coming back to this record quite a bit now.
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  And obviously the title track is the closer.
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  So super fierce. We'll just wind this down a
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  little bit with some cool live photos of them.
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  These are shot by our friend Annie Atlasman at the Max
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  Cavalera Dynasty show last fall. I'm hoping Max will do another
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  one of these every year or every few years where it's, you know,
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  a lot of locals and underground bands as well as like sort of
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  the Max family of bands. And yeah, this is a killer got.
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  I feel like Savage New Times is the first record where Insight
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  sounds raw on the record like they are live.
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  And I mean that as a compliment. It is a great sounding record
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  that is recorded and mixed beautifully, but it feels like a
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  coat like the most cohesive they have ever sounded in terms of
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  the writing. And I can't wait to hear some of
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  these songs live. But these are some cool shots of
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  the band. There's L on the bass, killing
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  it as usual, my man Lennon on the drums, Phenomenal job on the
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  drums on this record. And of course, here is Wayne
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  Richardson on the guitar, that beautiful looking guitar there
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  and the whole band there except Richie, Pretty cool looking.
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  So yeah, man, I'm very excited for this record to come out and
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  drop and see where it finds them.
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  I hope it finds them with new opportunities and, and new
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  things to explore and new places to play in front of new fans as
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  well as old again. They have been around for almost
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  20 years with this band. So this is not a new band.
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  This is not a, you know, this band is established, a veteran
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  has been around and you know, they went, they went to Europe
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  already to prove, you know, sort of on tour ready this year to
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  promote the record. And they got a much more coming
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  down the road. Flannel 916 is here.
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  What I put up Lil Shorty, Michael Thomas.
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  Let's just see if anybody else is still hanging on the gram.
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  Very good to see you all. And that's kind of where we're
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  at. You know, if I had to put a
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  grade on this, we do whole numbers one to 10 and nothing is
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  ever really as bad as a one. We most records are A6 or A7.
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  I'll be honest with you, this is a high 8 or a nine.
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  It's all bangers. It's, you know, four guys
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  writing and playing over themselves to a tremendous level
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  and it's just absolutely ass beaters, non-stop ass beaters.
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  Every song, even Dolores, which has some dynamics and some
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  different tempo stuff. It's just turns into a rager
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  overtime, which, you know, I'm pretty stoked on and and I have
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  quite a bit of, you know, like a list already of my favorite
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  records of this year. I might do a half point more
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  pass more than 1/2 point already, but I might do like a
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  year so far piece next week. But yeah, this is one of my
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  favorite records of the year so far and it's absolutely
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  blistering. So if you love heavy shit and
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  you have no patience for any other shit, this is your shit.
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  That's that's it in a nutshell. Any case, we'll be back with
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  another video tomorrow. Our interview with Fishbone runs
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  tomorrow AM, and I'll be back on Thursday with another live
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  stream. As I say all the time, you could
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  watch anybody else's show you. If you're here, you spend some
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  time with me and I'm grateful. Thanks for hanging out.
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  Thanks for hanging out with us. Peace.