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The Final 3 · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with her radio. Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: It's Ashley and I'm Ben. Yeah, and um, Ben and
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  Speaker 1: I we like to start this podcast out by just
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  Speaker 1: kind of telling you the memorable parts of our week.
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  Speaker 1: You want to know what I just came back from.
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  Speaker 1: Came back from a three D. I didn't even I
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  Speaker 1: just went right into it. I didn't. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even waiting for Ben. I was going to respond,
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  Speaker 1: but I caught on quick that you're just so excited
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  Speaker 1: to share whatever you're about to share, that didn't really
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  Speaker 1: matter what my answer was. No, it was really cool.
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  Speaker 1: It was a three D ultrasound at this place in Frederick,
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  Speaker 1: Maryland called First Site Ultrasound. So like you know, you
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  Speaker 1: go to your doctor, you get like the little you know,
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  Speaker 1: it looks like a skeleton type of ultrasound. But we
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  Speaker 1: went to this place because I'm here for a doctor's appointment,
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  Speaker 1: like here in Virginia. So I took a little like
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  Speaker 1: our ride out to Frederick, Maryland, and I got to
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  Speaker 1: see the baby's face and like all the three D
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  Speaker 1: movement and it's really cool. And of course I'm over
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  Speaker 1: analyzing all of his features. I'm like, is that that's
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  Speaker 1: Jared's shin? I was like, and why is his nose
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  Speaker 1: like so not? Like it's a squishy nose. So does
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  Speaker 1: it have the jawline that we all expected? It has
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  Speaker 1: the chin of Jared, so I'm thinking that the jawline
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  Speaker 1: will probably come with it. But he's kind of roly
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  Speaker 1: POLYI right now, like they say that he's dumb. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So when I first got an ultrasound, the twenty week
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  Speaker 1: ultrasound back in September, they said that he was in
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  Speaker 1: the nineties percent tile for size. He has gone down. However,
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  Speaker 1: his toungey is still in the eighties eighty seven percent tile.
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  Speaker 1: So he's got a big chubby belly. But everything else
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  Speaker 1: seems to be kind of normal. Wow, that is crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't technology wild? And now you can really get a
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  Speaker 1: picture of what you're how to look like? Are you
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  Speaker 1: happy about that? Or would you do? You? Do you
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  Speaker 1: miss that the option is not just at being a surprise.
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  Speaker 1: I am not like down. Surprises are fine if they
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  Speaker 1: have to be surprises, but if you can see it early,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of cool. I think technology is awesome. What
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  Speaker 1: what would you do. What would you would you want
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  Speaker 1: to see the baby before a couple of stuff? I
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  Speaker 1: think just because it's an option, yes, like you know,
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  Speaker 1: like I think it. I hate surprises. And in fact,
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  Speaker 1: right now I'm sitting through a three day intensive leadership seminar,
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  Speaker 1: and the whole purpose is to understand your internal self better.
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  Speaker 1: What like what makes you angry, what you don't like,
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  Speaker 1: how you work with your coworkers better, all those things
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  Speaker 1: and um, and one of the things that came up
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  Speaker 1: yesterday in conversation was, UM, there's a certain personality type
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  Speaker 1: that just really dislikes surprises. And I really do dislike surprises.
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  Speaker 1: I don't enjoy him. Hm, do you remember the last
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  Speaker 1: time you are truly truly surprised? Because I don't know that.
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  Speaker 1: I can't. I can't, um, mostly because you know, Jessica
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  Speaker 1: has been in my life the last three years and
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  Speaker 1: like either her parents or her would be the one
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  Speaker 1: either planning surprises or being around when surprises happened, and
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  Speaker 1: so they know, I just really don't enjoy them, like
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  Speaker 1: they don't make me feel celebrated. Now for talking like
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  Speaker 1: big life experiences, I mean the last time I was surprised? No,
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  Speaker 1: really I really, I really, it's been years. I mean
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  Speaker 1: I think the thing that would stand out would be
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  Speaker 1: the time that I got the phone call from the
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  Speaker 1: show saying, hey, you're coming. I think that was probably
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  Speaker 1: the last time I was like shockingly surprised or oh
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  Speaker 1: this week, though, I was surprised. Oh okay. I woke
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  Speaker 1: up in the morning and uh my, my wife was gone, No, no,
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  Speaker 1: she's she's she's here. I know, I know she except
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  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, she wakes up this morning ready to
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  Speaker 1: work out. Um, not kidding wild but no. I woke
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  Speaker 1: up and my buddy texted me. I had of my
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  Speaker 1: phone blew up and he's like, hey, Bloomberg just did
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  Speaker 1: a feature on you, like Bloomberg And I was like
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  Speaker 1: what for what? And I had no clue, no idea,
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  Speaker 1: what's happening. No for my apparel company, my fan Threads. Yeah, so,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, Generous is my main focus. My fan
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  Speaker 1: Threads is a great side project that like I work
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  Speaker 1: on a few hours a week. You know, we we
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  Speaker 1: we make sure that everything's going well, but it's not
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  Speaker 1: like a focus of mine. And Bloomberg goes out there
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  Speaker 1: and does a highlight of it. Too cool. Congratulations on that.
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  Speaker 1: I thank you. I was pumped. I was pumped. That
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  Speaker 1: was a big surprise. I mean, that's a good surprise.
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  Speaker 1: But Ashley, we didn't even tell people what we're doing today.
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  Speaker 1: We haven't yet. Oh well, I guess we're just recapping
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  Speaker 1: the episode. But do you know what that this episode?
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  Speaker 1: Here's a surprise. I actually had like feelings and thought
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  Speaker 1: about this episode. Yeah, I did too, And we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get into it. We're gonna share all about it. One
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  Speaker 1: of the most shocking exits I have seen in a while.
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  Speaker 1: Um came out of note and uh in conversation and
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  Speaker 1: relationships deepened. And so we're gonna take a break here. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: when we come back, we're gonna break down this week's
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  Speaker 1: episode of Michelle's season of The Bachelor, get into hot topics,
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  Speaker 1: and then get out of here before we take a
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  Speaker 1: break and get into that recap batch Rocket Rule of
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  Speaker 1: the week for the finale week. It's December one, and
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  Speaker 1: this is minus ten if a contestant doesn't get down
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  Speaker 1: on one knee slash does not propose to Michelle. On
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  Speaker 1: top of the current point penalties for saying quote I'm
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  Speaker 1: not ready for marriage slash engagement slash this, so be
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  Speaker 1: aware of anybody saying I'm not ready for Hey, we'll
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  Speaker 1: be back. All right, everybody, We're back And it's this
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  Speaker 1: week's episode of The Bachelor AP We're down to the
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  Speaker 1: final three contestants on Michelle's season. We've got Nate, Brandon,
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  Speaker 1: and Joe left. So obviously this week is a week
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  Speaker 1: for these guys to get to spend more time with Michelle.
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  Speaker 1: They are in Mexico, a place very familiar with the
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  Speaker 1: brand with the Bachelor franchise. It's overnight week. Things get
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  Speaker 1: really wild in Port of Iarta, very very wild. Uh
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  Speaker 1: typically if if you've been there, so Ashley, you said
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  Speaker 1: at the beginning, you have very strong feelings for this
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  Speaker 1: week's episode. How about so that I don't step on
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  Speaker 1: top of those feelings, you take us through it. Okay, Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean my biggest feeling was that I was convinced
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  Speaker 1: that Brendan was leaving, like convinced, I mean Brandon. I
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  Speaker 1: thought he yes, I was okay, So I was not
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  Speaker 1: at the top of the episode, not convinced that at all.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he was a shoe in at first, but
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  Speaker 1: then after watching the connections, I mean, so that's where
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  Speaker 1: the filter that we're gonna funnel this whole conversation through. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we have three dates that we need to talk about,
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  Speaker 1: and the first one is Brandon's. Brandon goes in the
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  Speaker 1: first overnight date. I would I always think that the
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  Speaker 1: first overnight date is thet it's very forgettable, but this
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  Speaker 1: wasn't forgettable to me because it did feel like they
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  Speaker 1: had a lot of words of affirmation. I do get
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  Speaker 1: the sense though from Brandon that he he's trying really
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  Speaker 1: hard for Michelle to like him. Does that make sense?
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  Speaker 1: And I think at the end, I just got the
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  Speaker 1: sense that, like these other guys kind of pushed back
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  Speaker 1: at her a little bit. They're pretty comfortable around her.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like there's like a mutual like, Hey, I
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  Speaker 1: like you, you like me. But Brandon like like in
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  Speaker 1: this relationship we will maybe challenge each other. In the
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  Speaker 1: relationship with Brandon, it's kind of like I will worship
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  Speaker 1: you and be obsessed with you, and you will always
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  Speaker 1: be my queen. And I don't think he's lying. I
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  Speaker 1: think he really, really, really really likes her, and I
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  Speaker 1: think he really cares about her. I think she he
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  Speaker 1: sees her as his dream girl. But it does watching it,
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  Speaker 1: and that's my my critique. I've always liked Brandon. He
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  Speaker 1: was in my top three at the very beginning. I
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  Speaker 1: like him. He's a he's a good dude, he's good looking.
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  Speaker 1: He's been very respectful and very like easy to watch
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  Speaker 1: on television. He listens to Michelle, but I do. The
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  Speaker 1: last two weeks, I've gotten the sense that he's been
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  Speaker 1: trying really hard to throw almost like that Mary saying,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I have some catching up to do
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  Speaker 1: and I really need to let her know that I
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  Speaker 1: like her and like really like dive in mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: He was so obsessed with the fact that he was
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  Speaker 1: getting the first date. He thought that that meant so much,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, this means nothing. You can keep
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  Speaker 1: over analyzing. But if anything, I would want to have
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  Speaker 1: that third date of the week because I would just
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  Speaker 1: say that you're most fresh in um the person's mind. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I would agree. But the Bachelor did it again. The
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  Speaker 1: men are sitting in the same room altogether as people
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  Speaker 1: go on their dates. Ashley, when it first happened, we
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  Speaker 1: didn't like it. Then it happened again, and we're like,
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  Speaker 1: brings up some funny drama and it kind of like
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  Speaker 1: spices things up. Uh. Did you like now this season
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  Speaker 1: them doing that once again? I like it. It's uncomfortable
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  Speaker 1: for them, but it's good TV for us. Yeah, because
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  Speaker 1: I mean even the scene where Nate and Joe, uh
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  Speaker 1: you know kind of have to watch, isn't it's the
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  Speaker 1: fireworks right with Brandon that go off. Oh yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so they have to see that, they have to feel that.
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  Speaker 1: There's like they show that scene and Nate doesn't even
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  Speaker 1: walk out to watch him. He just sits down in
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  Speaker 1: the back, and it's like, this sucks, Like I know
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  Speaker 1: exactly what they're doing. I know exactly what this is.
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  Speaker 1: This is pointing towards and it is the week where
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  Speaker 1: you see these guys I would say, and not to
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  Speaker 1: but like other than Joe, like really start to communicate
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  Speaker 1: their feelings in a strong way towards Michelle and uh,
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  Speaker 1: and Joe still felt a little reserved to me, it
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  Speaker 1: just might be his personality type. Um, but they already
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  Speaker 1: gether in the same room. So Brandon comes back from
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  Speaker 1: his date obviously. Uh. The big pictures of that date
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  Speaker 1: are Hey, he communicated how much he cares about her. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: he said that he would do anything for she felt
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  Speaker 1: like she accepted it and appreciated it. He comes back
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  Speaker 1: and feeling very confident in his date, and then obviously
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  Speaker 1: we move on to the next MHM. So the next
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  Speaker 1: is Joe's And at first I was like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: maybe maybe this is the time it ends with Joe.
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  Speaker 1: But as the date went on, I felt like them
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  Speaker 1: connecting more and more. And she said that she is
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  Speaker 1: falling in love with him, so because she didn't say
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  Speaker 1: that with Brendan and he was, you know, Brendan was
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  Speaker 1: so like gunhole, like I'm so so in love with you,
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  Speaker 1: and she didn't say it back. I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so Joe is in so yeah, the beginning of the
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  Speaker 1: date not really not really one sure, but as we
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  Speaker 1: go into the nighttime portion, she's saying things like maybe
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  Speaker 1: her soulmate. He says that he's trolling in love with
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  Speaker 1: her um and she says that she just like get loved,
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  Speaker 1: has been loving getting to know him more and more.
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  Speaker 1: As time goes on, I just felt I just especially yeah,
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  Speaker 1: especially that next morning when I wake up, Like I
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  Speaker 1: just felt like she was more into Joe that morning
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  Speaker 1: than she was into Brendon the morning. Grievous well, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: so I think you're I agree with you. It's a
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  Speaker 1: comparison here, right, Brandon is very very vocal about his
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  Speaker 1: feelings towards Michelle. In fact, we watch it and like
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  Speaker 1: we said, she accepts these feelings. She tells him, hey, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you make me feel safe. So Brandon is very like
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  Speaker 1: romantic with his words. Now Joe, on the other hand,
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  Speaker 1: almost it feels like to me watching this, like I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what reassurance she's getting from Joe. I think
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  Speaker 1: they have something. I think she's into him. I think
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  Speaker 1: they have a good connection. But he's not giving her
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  Speaker 1: a lot back. I mean, he says, hey, he says
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  Speaker 1: he's falling in love with her every moment, But like,
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  Speaker 1: there just isn't this Wait, Am I a typical girl?
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  Speaker 1: What's up? You're saying this? And I'm like, maybe I'm
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  Speaker 1: just a typical girl. I like the mystery, maybe, like
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  Speaker 1: I think maybe I'm feeling like she's more drawn to
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  Speaker 1: Joe just because she's trying to get more out of him.
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  Speaker 1: But the mystery. But that's fun. I mean, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to talk Bachelor World here, that's what fun. Like week
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  Speaker 1: one through six, But then at this point, you're considering
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  Speaker 1: a life with somebody, you are investing your your heart
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  Speaker 1: into somebody. The mystery of it all doesn't really work anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Like you don't marry somebody based on mystery and potential, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean maybe you might believe in what they can
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  Speaker 1: do in the future, but you're not marrying and going, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you'll be better one day, or you'll tell me you'll
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  Speaker 1: love me one day, you'll show me love me one day.
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  Speaker 1: Like that's not how it works. And so at this
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  Speaker 1: thinking about like crushed done. Sure, I think she's had
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  Speaker 1: a crush on Josep as the very beginning. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what don't you agree? And then you have Brandon who's
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  Speaker 1: communicating all this stuff and making her feel safe and
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  Speaker 1: making her feel wanted, and she's obviously in a Brandon also,
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  Speaker 1: And so at this point, and I just still don't
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  Speaker 1: think Joe is gonna be going home, going to go home.
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  Speaker 1: I thought Nate had the best shot at going home.
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  Speaker 1: I thought Brandon would be there until and we'll get
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  Speaker 1: into until the final scene. I just thought that Joe
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  Speaker 1: would be there because there was that crush, because there's
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  Speaker 1: that intrigue, because there's that curiosity, I was waiting for
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  Speaker 1: him this whole day at Ashley to blossom and just
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  Speaker 1: be like Michelle, like I can't picture my life without you,
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  Speaker 1: like I love you, and it just never happened. Well,
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  Speaker 1: he's said, I love you basically, I'm not looking basically,
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  Speaker 1: Basically I'm not looking for basically right now, Ashley, We're
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about like three incredible dudes who are who
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  Speaker 1: Michelle is all interested in, like, and you're looking. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: maybe they just aren't meant to get engaged. And like
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  Speaker 1: I've always said, I'm okay with that. If her and
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  Speaker 1: Joe ended up at the end and they say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we're not ready yet, but we're super curious about where
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  Speaker 1: this can go, we're gonna walk out of this thing
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  Speaker 1: and keep dating. I've always been a fan of that.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a fine thing. I don't think you
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  Speaker 1: should happen every season, but it's gonna happen. Um, but
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  Speaker 1: you you don't get engaged based on basically you're basically
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  Speaker 1: tell me you like me? Right, You're so right? He did.
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  Speaker 1: He is the guy who only said falling in love
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  Speaker 1: because the other two actually said in love. Now, I
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  Speaker 1: walking into this Nate date also think Nate's the one
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  Speaker 1: that's going to be on the chopping block. I think
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  Speaker 1: that she's going to have these like logical feelings of um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, his dad obviously made it seem like he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't ready for an engagement. This guy doesn't seem as
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to say, he doesn't seem as invested
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  Speaker 1: in her, but like he does give off a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more of a player vibe. And maybe I'm totally
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  Speaker 1: wrong there, but like he is super smooth. I watching, like,
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  Speaker 1: I think he's the most attractive of them. Like I
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  Speaker 1: see the physical that physical chemistry, you know, Like I
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  Speaker 1: think that's what she's really into with Nate. But she
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  Speaker 1: dropped so many lines that say it's way more than
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  Speaker 1: that during the state, including like this is soulmates stuff. Right.
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  Speaker 1: She says that kissing him is like kissing like nobody
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  Speaker 1: else she's ever experienced in her life. Um, she says,
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  Speaker 1: I'm in love with you two with him? Uh right,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I was, like, I mean that's the
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  Speaker 1: big one right there. Actually yeah, she said that back,
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  Speaker 1: said it back. Well, you know, if if we're going
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  Speaker 1: through this and I'm analyzing who's going home, who's going
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  Speaker 1: not who's not going home. For her to send him
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  Speaker 1: home in the top three after saying that to him
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  Speaker 1: would have been a little bit of a surprise, right
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  Speaker 1: if I was down the final two and she was
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  Speaker 1: saying that, uh, makes a little more sense. But the
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  Speaker 1: final three and she's she says that to him, and
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  Speaker 1: he's the only one she says that back to, and
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  Speaker 1: then to send him home just would have been a
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  Speaker 1: little bit different, like a little bit shocking. But Nate
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  Speaker 1: still to me, you know, she asks him some pretty
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  Speaker 1: poignant questions about where he's at and if he's ready
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  Speaker 1: and he or Hey, is there anything on your mind
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  Speaker 1: that you want to talk about? And he just doesn't
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  Speaker 1: really respond, still like he's still not quite communicating with
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  Speaker 1: her in a way that like the back and forth
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  Speaker 1: that I think she's desires. Now Again, it could be
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  Speaker 1: the intrigue of it all. And I do think he
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  Speaker 1: cares about her. I have no doubt that his feelings
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  Speaker 1: for him for her are very real, That's what I mean. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: But he's just he's he's distant in his communication. He's
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  Speaker 1: there's a something there and a little bit of a wall,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a wall that throws up a
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  Speaker 1: red flag I think for for me, and so it
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: puts us in this if a reverse and track when
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: we're watching this live. At this point, we're going, in
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  Speaker 1: my mind, um, I'm saying it's Brandon or Joe because
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  Speaker 1: with her saying that back to Nate, I would I
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  Speaker 1: said it a little bit. I thought Nate was gonna
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  Speaker 1: be going home this week, probably before the episode started,
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  Speaker 1: just because of where he was at and his and
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  Speaker 1: kind of how his family had told her like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: he's probably not ready. Um, but at this point, like
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  Speaker 1: I still think Joe is gonna be there. I thought
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Brandon would be going home, which brings us to the
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Rose ceremony. I knew date it was gonna get the
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: first roast, so we're just like that, go for that,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: and then Brandon uh pulls her aside, walks her out.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Do you think he was going to say? Um? I
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: really didn't know. I was trying. I was sitting there going, Okay,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: what is going to happen here? He's either gonna send
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: himself home because he because he felt like he wasn't
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: where everybody else was at um, or he was going
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: to do like a very awkward He'll Mary, Like I
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: just want to let you know how much I care
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: about you and if you know, And he kind of
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: did that, but it came off a lot better like
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: it was. Just it wasn't like this like begging her
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: to keep him kind of thing. And I don't think
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: she's the type of person that would have been down
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: for that anyways. But as he's talking to her, she's crying,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, he's a going home one thousand percents
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: going home. There's many ways to interpret this. First off,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I my initial reaction when he pulled her aside was
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: that he was gonna say something bad about Nate and
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: try to take her, um, just try to do what
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: he could to get her feelings about Nate to be skeptical.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: That would have been I have been said, I wouldn't
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, I wouldn't have either. Um, but I
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: saw it coming, just because they kind of showed some
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: tension between the two of them throughout the episode. But
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: that's not where it went, which was good. But then
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: when she cried. When she was crying, I was like, Okay,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: so this is so obvious he is the one going home. Now.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: My question for you is do you think that she
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: planned on sending him home, and that conversation actually did
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: flip her mind. I just I mean, you know, I
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: just don't see Michelle flipping her I think she walks
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: into those she was at the poet like the podium already.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I would said this would have happened a couple of hours,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: maybe before the day before. You know, yeah, I could
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: have seen it flip. But like I feel like Michelle's
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: type of person. Once she makes a decision, she's very
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: confident in that decision. She it's it's gonna be almost
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: impossible to convince her otherwise, especially in the moments of
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: moments like this, and I think she's taking it very serious.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: And so no, I don't I don't know what her
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to we'll talk to her here in a
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and well we can ask. But I
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: don't know where her mind was at during that. Maybe
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: it was just the gravity of saying goodbye to somebody
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: you care about, um, and like him reminding her of
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: that maybe broke her down a little bit emotionally. UM.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: But I was shocked. I did not see Joe going home.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I thought, at this moment, it's Brandon. And then obviously
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: we all get shocked. Well, I mean, now there's just
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: time for us to kind of break down what we
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: see and it changed for the next episode real quick,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: before we do that, what do you think about Joe
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: and Michelle's like final moments together. Did you feel like
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: maybe he was he was the one that got away.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like there's still something to be had
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: there or did you did you did you just think, yeah,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: this was obvious that it did need to happen. I
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: think that if it doesn't work out for her with
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: one of the other two being that he lives at home,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: that like they can totally rekindle things. And I think
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: that they left off in a good spot where they could.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: He doesn't seem to feel like any animosity toward her. No, No,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: that's true. Um, And obviously we've seen it here as
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: of recently. This could be a new trend for the
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: next few years of The Bachelor. Is you get away,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: you realize what you miss and then you go back. Okay,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Scenes from the next episode actually break it down. Okay, Um,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: just one little point out. There is a moment in
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: this episode where she says that she's worried about Nate's
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: reciprocation of the feelings, like she feels like she might
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: be ahead of the game and feelings. And I feel
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: like that kind of plays out in the scene to
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: the next episode, because we do see somebody else. Her
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: mom at least says that somebody else, somebody isn't ready
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: for marriage. Um, and she's crying at the end, saying
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: that she she's never done something so hard, like she
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: can't there's a decision. She can't believe she's doing it.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: She can't believe that she's making this decision. So does
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: that mean like she's making a decision not to get engaged. Well,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, we can't read too far into it. You know,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: the previews are always leading us in one direction and
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: they feel like they go back to the other. Um,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I'm I'll be honest, Ash, I'm going to be shocked
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: at this ends in an engagement. Yeah, but I don't
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: think it's gonna end with them her not being with someone. No, No,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I don't think that. I think you're gonna say, let's date,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: which is weird because that's not that's not something we
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: haven't seen before. We totally have, but we've only seen
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: that with Bachelor's which would make this one unique the
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Bachelorette saying let's just date. Yeah, but I mean again,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Michelle has been so confident all season. I mean I
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: thought we were progressing that point. I would say this week,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: for as good as the episode was, I didn't feel
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: like I'm more confident that these are gonna end in
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: like a in an engagement. I think it's it actually
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: felt like almost these relationships got slowed up a bit.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe Nates went forward, but again, like I
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: thought they were gonna have a lot more conversation about
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: why his family said what they said, and I thought
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: that they're gonna have a lot more conversation about where
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: he's at. And I thought that would make us feel
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: a little bit more like in tune with their love story.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Ben with the good points I'm trying. It is weird
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: that that wasn't brought up, and or if it happened,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: that it wasn't air. Yeah, So I thought that was so.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I had kind of thoughts, preconceived thoughts on each day.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I thought Brandon, I wanted to see him. I thought
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I was gonna see him get more comfortable, um still
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: communicate his feelings. He he didn't. I mean, maybe he
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: was comfortable. Maybe it's just who he is, but he
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: did communicate his feelings and then Joe I thought we'd
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: see him open up. I thought he see him like, um,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: pursue Michelle a little bit, like almost like show hey,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I really want this to happen and I'm into you
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: and I want to see this thing to the end.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: And that it did not happen. I will say that
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: really ship definitely kind of had a stalled out moment.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: And then Nate. I thought we would have that conversation
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: with Nate about where he's at and what he's thinking
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: and and how we feels about the things that his
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: family said, and he just kind of like pushed aside
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: and Michelle kind of dig a little bit and they
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: kind of got into it. And so, yeah, I don't
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: think she wants to know. I think she's so infatuated
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: with him she doesn't even want to hear it, and
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: she just wants to pretend like he is ready. Well,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: it will be an interesting final episode of Michelle season
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: of The Bachelorette. Um we're excited for it here at
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: the Almost Famous Podcast. It's uh, it's gonna be airing
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: next week. We'll be here to talk about it, but hey,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. When we come back, we've
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: got Bachelor Nation headlines with our resident expert, ashleyken Eddie.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: That would be me alright, everybody, It's Bachelor Nation headlines time.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: We're gonna start with the first one, this one coming
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: from People Magazine. I've seen the interview. I understand where
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: he's coming from. Wells Adams was admittedly a little disappointed
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: to not land the Bachelor hosting gear. Mm hmm. So
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: he says, a little sad not to um land the role,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: but I was never the Bachelor, so I understood the decision.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I also know Jesse really well. I've worked with him before,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: so I get him being the host. He was the Bachelor,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: so it totally makes sense. You know. I'm happy for him. Uh.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: He says that the change has been hard for the
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Bachelor audience, you know, like with new host, but he
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: still thinks highly of Jessie despite how weird it may
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: be for some people when they initially watched. I think
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: that's probably because a lot of the people watching the
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: show now may not have watched the show back when
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Jesse was the Bachelor. Um. He says, he's a well
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: says he's a wonderful dude and I'm so happy. Um
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: there's no host for Bachelor in Paradise yet those he suggested,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: so we'll see well Um moving on here. It's it's
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to watch Wells in his progress. If
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: obviously announced last week he has a new hosting gig.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Be interesting to see if he comes back around to
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor franchise or if the Bachelor franchise just uses
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Jesse and Wells. Is time on ABC is coming to
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: an end, which you know we don't want to see.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: We love Wills, but um, we're not gonna say the
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: names of this next headline because that would be a
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: spoiler that doesn't seem fair to all of you listeners.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: But the question that Bustle is asking right now is
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: did ABC actually reveal Clayton's final three Bachelor contestants? We
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: were wondering the same thing on the podcast. They felt
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: very clear who they were to us. We won't say
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: their names, but Ashley, did they if you want to like,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: do some light research kind of because we see the girls,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: the top three girls kind of in line at a
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: roast ceremony or what looks like the top three ROAs
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: ceremony right in the teaser. And then all you gotta
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: do is when the names and pictures are released, which
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I would say would be soon this week. Yeah, just
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: match the match up the faces and the names if
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: you want to. But it's interesting that they would do that. Now. Again,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: there's nothing that doesn't go uh noticed or unnoticed in
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: the editing department, and so I'd be shocked if that's
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: what they did. But I don't know. It wasn't a mistake.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it would have been a mistake.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: It must have been. It must be something that they
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: think is like juicy enough to keep the audience so
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: captive throughout the season that it was just worth it right. Well, Uh,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: next in line is this part deep from this season
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: of The Bachelorette, discusses the pressures of being the first
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Indian American to receive a rose on The Bachelorette. This
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: according to Bachelor Nation, Wow, that's that's crazy. That that's crazy. Okay,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: so he said, Once I realized I was the first
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Indian American to ever get a rose in the show,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: it was something that slowly started to creep up on
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: me as days started to go by going in. You
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: gotta go in with your best foot forward. And I
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: went representing a New Yorker and a scientist. But slowly
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I realized that there was actually a lot more going
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: on here, and if I slip up or make a
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: bad mistake, it could poorly characterize anyone that looks like me,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: and that could be really bad. So I started to
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: get into my own head early on. I wanted to
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: be on my best behavior, because if you're the first
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: to do something, anything you do is very scrutinized. I
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: don't think anyone else cared except for me. I am
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I am um the one with this role I had
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: where I felt like I was representing what was datable
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: for an Asian American on national TV. I think that
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: for a general audience like this one, they have never
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: seen someone with my face and my name as a
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: viable dating partner. I had to represent that really well,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: even though I didn't make it past week two. Of course,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: this is his own opinion, but um, that is just
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: crazy to me that there hasn't been one Indian American
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: in these twenty years that has gone past week one.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Part deep. Yeah, he didn't even make a press week too.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Part Deep is paving the way Well. Final headline of
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: this week is Rodney discusses making history with the Bachelor
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: franchise plus his mom's advice for his future partner. This
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: also according to Bachelor Nation, making history with the Bachelor franchise. Okay, well,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: that is because he is one of this top four,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: which is historic because all of the men in this
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: top four are all people of color. She said, it
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: was truly truly amazing. The night of the rose ceremony,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: of course, where she brings it down to four, he said,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: my heart was racing that night, So at the moment,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking of the history too much, but I
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: understood the gravity of that situation. It really meant a
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: lot to me. Making this kind of history with the
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation franchise is really something that is so special
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: to me. I hold it near and dear to my heart.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: The caliber of the guys in that room, I was
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: just honored and blessed to know them and be in
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: the same category as guys like that. We're all happy
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: to be there together. And also it just shows how
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: amazing Michelle is to have a final four like that.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: He says that they were all grateful for the moment
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: and he can't tell us how happy and proud he
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: was to be part of it. Well, obviously, Rodney was
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: one of our favorites. Celebrate this season of The Bachelorette
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: by coming back next week to discuss it once again.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: It's been a great season. We're happy to be here
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: with all of you. But that's into this week's episode. Hey,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: we have a special episode, right Ashley this week coming
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: out on Thursday. Yeah, we have Caitlin and she's gonna
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: come on and talk about one why Clayton is the
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Bachelor to um, we have a fast round of questions
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: for her about her wedding. Three, we have all the
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: inside scoop on the on the dancing with the star store,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: and all the feelings that she's been having lately. Like
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: we we really cover it all. So if you're Caitlin
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Bristow fan and seriously, who embattl nation isn't, make sure
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: that you tune into that interview. It's gonna be great. Well, Hey,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: with that, everybody, we'll be back next week. I've been been,
• 32:43
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• 32:48
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• 32:51
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