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Mark interviews Roger Friedman from Showbiz411. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: News breaks out in every show Mark Simone on seven
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  Speaker 1: to ten.
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  Speaker 2: Wor.
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  Speaker 1: Well. Roger Friedman the great entertainment reporter. And he's got
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  Speaker 1: an excellent website, showbiz for one one dot com. You
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  Speaker 1: should check it every day. There's always new stuff up there.
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  Speaker 1: Showbiz for one one dot com. Roger Friedman, How you doing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm great?
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  Speaker 1: How are you? I'm good. So Memorial Day weekend, people
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  Speaker 1: want to go to movies. What's a good movie to see?
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  Speaker 2: Well, the big movie this weekend is The Mandalorian and
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  Speaker 2: gragu Do you know who they are?
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea what a title.
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  Speaker 2: They're not Whaling Flowers and Madam, Oh they are. The
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  Speaker 2: Mandalorian is a spinoff from Star Wars. Oh, and it's
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  Speaker 2: been a hit TV show on Disney Plus for the
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  Speaker 2: last three years, and now instead of doing a fourth season,
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  Speaker 2: they decided to move into movies because it was so
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  Speaker 2: popular and it's terrific. It's really fun on Pedro Pascal
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  Speaker 2: is the star of it, and the guest star in
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  Speaker 2: the movie is Martin Scorsese. Oh, and he plays like
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  Speaker 2: an like a cgi character. He's hysterically funny, and it's
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  Speaker 2: it's really kind of a great popcorn movie, perfect memorial
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  Speaker 2: their weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, speaking of movies, that Michael Jackson movie Boy that
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  Speaker 1: is still a number one on its way to making
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  Speaker 1: a billion dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, still number one and opening in Japan today where
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  Speaker 2: it still hasn't played there a couple of countries, big
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  Speaker 2: countries where it hasn't played. Japan is going to be huge. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the Michael Jackson movie is it's going to break a
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  Speaker 2: billion dollars worldwide. It's a real phenomenon. And his records
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  Speaker 2: are selling like crazy, and it's too bad he's not
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  Speaker 2: here to see it.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, what about the Devilwares product too? That is that
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  Speaker 1: doing Okay?
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  Speaker 2: It loves Devilware's Product two is still doing very well.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to hit around two hundred million dollars soon,
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  Speaker 2: and that's enough. Even if it just does a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more than that, that's probably enough to make it
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  Speaker 2: for a third movie. So I'm sure that we'll see
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  Speaker 2: these people again.
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  Speaker 1: I don't see that. But is it good the second one?
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot like the first one. There's not much difference.
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  Speaker 2: But people really wanted to see these characters again and
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  Speaker 2: it just clicked with the audience.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, But there's no, there's no The.
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  Speaker 2: Only thing different in it then from the first one.
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  Speaker 2: It was twenty years ago when Vogue magazine was you know,
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  Speaker 2: a gigantic hit and they had you know, five hundred
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  Speaker 2: page issues and all that. And now twenty years later,
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  Speaker 2: with the Internet and everything that's happened, the magazine magazines
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  Speaker 2: are dying and so the movie sort of addresses that,
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  Speaker 2: and it starts to move in a new direction, maybe
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  Speaker 2: towards the website and social media, and they started to
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  Speaker 2: mention all that in the movie, and you can see
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  Speaker 2: that the magazine the era is coming to an end.
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  Speaker 2: It's very sad. Annity Fair for example, which is Vogue
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  Speaker 2: sister publication on Connie Nest Blust, fifty five percent of
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  Speaker 2: its website traffic last month. Really, yeah, unbelievable. It's been
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  Speaker 2: going down, but now it really sort of kicked in.
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  Speaker 2: And this is a combination of you know, people are
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  Speaker 2: able to get their news in so many different places now,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, they're obsessed with Instagram and TikTok and
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  Speaker 2: all that. So it's very hard to get someone to
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  Speaker 2: read an article online, especially a long one.
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  Speaker 1: Well yeah, no, everything's shorter attention span, but hey, speaking
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  Speaker 1: of the Devilwares product, I think I told you I
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  Speaker 1: never saw the original until like a month ago. I
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  Speaker 1: saw it a month ago. I was shocked, shocked. It
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  Speaker 1: was supposed to be this horrible boss. I'm watching the
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  Speaker 1: woman in the movie. I've worked for people one hundred
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  Speaker 1: times worse than that. You have too, if you're in
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  Speaker 1: the media, everybody acts like that. That well, she was.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty Merylship was very good. She was pretty mean in
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  Speaker 2: the first movie. In the second movie, she's more of
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  Speaker 2: a pussy cat. In the second movie, they've softened her up,
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  Speaker 2: and that's partially because Anna Winter and Vogue magazine got
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  Speaker 2: involved in the movie.
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  Speaker 1: So but they've made it a lot softer than it was.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't been in the meetium my whole life. You two,
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  Speaker 1: you've worked with people ten times worse than that woman, haven't.
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  Speaker 2: I work with people now who are too worse than that?
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'd rather work for the Mandalorian.
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  Speaker 1: So Hey, Bruce Springsteen. Chris Christie is the biggest fan
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  Speaker 1: in the world. And there he was standing there at
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  Speaker 1: the concert stage and Springsteen walks off, Christy puts his
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  Speaker 1: hand out.
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  Speaker 2: I'm very happy for Chris Christy you know, in twenty fifteen,
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  Speaker 2: I went to Radio City to see the first Adele
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  Speaker 2: concert and he was sitting right in front of me.
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  Speaker 2: He was such a fan, and that was after Bridgegate,
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  Speaker 2: and even though my instinct was to not like him,
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  Speaker 2: he was very charming and he was so excited about
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  Speaker 2: being He loves music. So then he went to Bringsteen
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  Speaker 2: concert the other day and he was standing right there
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  Speaker 2: waiting to shake his hand and Bruce. It looked like
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  Speaker 2: from a camera angle that Bruce sort of snubbed him
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  Speaker 2: and ran past him and just didn't acknowledge him. But
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that's what happened. I think Bruce just
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  Speaker 2: didn't see him.
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  Speaker 1: Oh well, it's hard not to see Chris Christie like
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  Speaker 1: the Goodyear blimp. I can't miss him.
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  Speaker 2: He is. But you know what, I was in that
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  Speaker 2: crowd the other night, not Chris Christie's crowd the night before,
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  Speaker 2: a couple of nights before. I can tell you it's
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  Speaker 2: pandemonium in the Madison Square garden when he's playing, So
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  Speaker 2: I don't doubt that it's a blur to him as
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  Speaker 2: he's going by. Anyway, they invited Chris back the next
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  Speaker 2: night and he came and he nearly got backstage, but
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  Speaker 2: he got his picture taken, and I have the picture
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  Speaker 2: up and showed his four one one. He's beaming like
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  Speaker 2: a sixteen year old. So I'm happy for him in
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  Speaker 2: that sense, all right, not for turning off the George
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  Speaker 2: Washington Bridge, but for getting to see his hero.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, hey, Mark Furman, he was the detective the OJ.
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  Speaker 1: He just died. He was young, fighting cancer. You know
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people. He's gone straight to hell at people.
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  Speaker 1: He's meeting OJ for lunch today in Hell.
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  Speaker 2: But I wrote about Mark Furman extensively in New York
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  Speaker 2: Magazine thirty years ago during the O. J. Simpson trial.
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  Speaker 2: He was a very racist, awful cup and you know
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  Speaker 2: what I used to say, Uh, he he was framing
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  Speaker 2: a guilty person, like we knew OJ. But he he
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  Speaker 2: was so dead set on making sure OJ was guilty
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  Speaker 2: that he framed him. And everything that went on in
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  Speaker 2: that trial concerning Mark Fehman was a joke. And the
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  Speaker 2: worst part of it was that he had a terrible
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  Speaker 2: history in Los Angeles with the police. He was extremely
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  Speaker 2: racist and very You know, this is before the internet.
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  Speaker 2: There was really no internet. In fact, at the time
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  Speaker 2: I was going on if anyone remembers this. They used
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  Speaker 2: to have Lexus and Nexus at a cost like fifty
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  Speaker 2: dollars a minute. And I was going through from New
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  Speaker 2: York Magazine. I was going back through the LA Times
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  Speaker 2: reports about Mark Ferman, going, I don't understand how this
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  Speaker 2: guy could still be a cop. He was just the worst.
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  Speaker 2: And you know the problem with LA has always been,
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  Speaker 2: as opposed to our great city, we have a tabloid
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  Speaker 2: newspaper community, so if something happens, it's all over the
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  Speaker 2: place within twenty four minutes. And it even was before
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  Speaker 2: the internet. You know, you remember the days where the
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  Speaker 2: Post and the Daily News were competing in New York
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  Speaker 2: news Day, but LA never had a press like that,
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  Speaker 2: and the La Times was always the lad. He was
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  Speaker 2: always able to tamp down any bad news in the
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  Speaker 2: La Times. So nobody really knew who this guy was
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  Speaker 2: when he was lurking around Ojay's house, moving gloves around
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  Speaker 2: and socks and all kinds of crazy stuff. But he
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  Speaker 2: was a very, very bad guy.
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  Speaker 1: There was a great moment they put him on the stand.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever used the N word?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 1: No, no, sure, no never. Then they bring in a
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  Speaker 1: tape of him using the n word for those He
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  Speaker 1: was actually convicted of perjury, making him the only person
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  Speaker 1: convicted in the whole OJ trial.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No, he did terrible things. I mean he
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  Speaker 2: once had a female partner on patrol and he turned
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  Speaker 2: gasoline on her at the gas station. She actually sued
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  Speaker 2: the department in one I mean it was a terrible situation. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so no one's I don't think anyone's mourning him today. No.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, people don't realize. If you're a younger person, you
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  Speaker 1: don't realize what that OJ trial was for. Like, was
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  Speaker 1: it nineteen ninety five, ninety six? It just dominated the
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  Speaker 1: whole country. Stopped to watch that for a year.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know, it was eighteen months. It
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  Speaker 2: started in June of nineteen ninety four and it ended
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  Speaker 2: October second, nineteen ninety five. I would say the entire time,
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  Speaker 2: eighteen months. There was nothing else that I did, just
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  Speaker 2: about and I was in the courtroom. I used to
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  Speaker 2: go down with Dominic Dunn from the Chateau Armont. We
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  Speaker 2: would sit there through hours of this stuff. It was crazy.
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  Speaker 2: OJ was a mess. They had to drug him when
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  Speaker 2: they did the preliminary hearings in December of nineteen ninety four.
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  Speaker 2: He was making all these like clicking noises and sort
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  Speaker 2: of ticks and moving around. Finally they just drugged him
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  Speaker 2: for the rest of the trial. It was really crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody involved became world famous. It was Marsha Clark, the prosecutor,
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  Speaker 1: who was the guy, Chris Darden. Chris Darden the judge,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the judge Edo. He was a joke.
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  Speaker 2: He was. One day, I was sitting in the courtroom
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  Speaker 2: and they were waiting and waiting and waiting for the
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  Speaker 2: judge Edo to come out. And when he finally comes
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  Speaker 2: out of his chambers into the courtroom, he's got Larry
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  Speaker 2: King with him. They've been backstage. He's like backstage with
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  Speaker 2: Larry King. And then Larry King comes out to start
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  Speaker 2: shaking OJ's hand at the witness table. I mean, it
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  Speaker 2: was like a circus. It was crazy.
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  Speaker 1: The judge got a little too star struck in Yeah, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: they had a really good judge. You think it would
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  Speaker 1: have gone differently.
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  Speaker 2: No, because they were they were just in the wrong place.
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  Speaker 1: It was.
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  Speaker 2: They tried the case in the wrong district. The people
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  Speaker 2: that were the jurors were very, very mad about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: racial tensions in Los Angeles at the time, Rodney King
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  Speaker 2: and all of that, and they were determined to get
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  Speaker 2: it OJ. It didn't matter if OJ had stood up
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  Speaker 2: and said I killed her. They were going to get
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  Speaker 2: they were going to let him off.
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  Speaker 1: But they also mishandled it also.
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  Speaker 2: Johnny Cochran had to tell you the truth. Johnny Cochrane
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  Speaker 2: and Robert Shapiro put on a good show.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they were really good.
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  Speaker 2: John I knew Johnny. I knew them both. And Johnny
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  Speaker 2: Cochran's gone now. But Johnny Cochran, he was very clever.
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  Speaker 2: And when they did that, you know, the if it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't fit, you must have quit, you know. And and
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  Speaker 2: the whole thing was rigged from the start because the
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  Speaker 2: glove was not going to fit. There was no way
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  Speaker 2: it was going to fit. But they got it. And
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  Speaker 2: once they got that, they had it.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Well it was quite a time. It was an
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  Speaker 1: amazing period. But Roger Friedman great stuff. Make sure you
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  Speaker 1: read his website Showbiz for one one. There's a lot
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  Speaker 1: more stories there Showbiz four one one dot com. New
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  Speaker 1: stuff every day. Roger Friedman, thanks for being with us,
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, take care, Hey. Coming up Buck and Clay
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